On CNN’s Larry King Live Thursday night, Dan Rather insisted that his $70 million lawsuit against CBS was an attempt to save “our democracy” from “big government interference and intimidation in news;” claimed once again that his 2004 60 Minutes story on President Bush’s National Guard service was correct “and I think most people know by now that it was correct;” and charged that CBS’s investigation was “a fraud. It was a setup.”
And when Larry King asked him about Peter Arnett — whose career at CNN ended over a fraudulent 1998 report alleging the U.S. murdered defectors and used nerve gas in Vietnam, and who was last seen making propaganda films for Saddam Hussein during the 2003 invasion of Iraq — Rather embraced him: “Peter Arnett is a great reporter. He was then and he is now.”
Key exchanges during last night’s Larry King Live. The full transcript is available here.
KING: Why are you suing?RATHER: Two reasons, two core reasons. In no particular order — although I do think the most important reason is somebody sometime has got to take a stand and say democracy cannot survive, much less thrive, with the level of big corporate and big government interference and intimidation in news.
...
KING: In essence, you are saying that that network got rid of you -- copped out on the report, etc. Because of appealing to the Bush White House? Is that what you're saying, they were trying to appeal to the Bush White House?RATHER: Yes is the short answer to that. But I think that they and others have been doing it to part of Washington's power structure long before them. And what I'm trying -- look, in my own wee small way — perhaps, I can't succeed at it, is to say people, whether you're Republican, Democrat, liberal, conservative — big government and big corporations have far too much influence and are intimidating, especially investigative reporting.
...[After showing a clip from the 2004 60 Minutes report]
KING: Are you sorry about that now?RATHER: No.
KING: You think the report was correct?
RATHER: Yes. And I think most people know by now that it was correct.
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King read Rather a quote from former 60 Minutes executive Josh Howard, who disputed Rather’s claim that he was simply the narrator on the National Guard story, suggesting Rather had “gone off the deep end”:
KING: Josh Howard, who resigned as executive producer of "60 Minutes" in the aftermath of the controversy, is quoted as saying this about you in "The Washington Post": "I think he's gone off the deep end. He seems to be saying he was just the narrator. He did every interview. He worked the sources over the phone. He was there in the room with the so-called document experts. He argued over everything in the script. It's laughable." Comment?RATHER: I respect Josh Howard quite a bit. And I'd like to see the full context of it. But I will say this, to the business of he's off the deep end or something, I've never been clearer in my mind about anything -- I can't recall being clearer.
...
King eventually returned to the motivations for Rather’s lawsuit:
RATHER: I want to find out the truth.KING: ...we'll never know the truth.
RATHER: Well, no, if they — if the truth comes out, if they acknowledge the truth...
KING: You mean if they offered you a financial package to settle, never going through that...
RATHER: A strictly financial package?
KING: Yes.
RATHER: Absolutely not. Not. No. Absolutely not.
KING: Not.
RATHER: I do want to make a point, Larry, here, that somebody will look at it and say he's suing for $70 million. For me, it's not about the money. It is about this principle of what we're going to do with our democracy.
...
Referring to CBS’s investigation, which was led by former Associated Press chief Louis Boccardi and former U.S. Attorney General Richard Thornburgh. Rather singled out Thornburgh, a Republican, as evidence of CBS’s bias against him:
RATHER: There was this effort to scapegoat myself and others in the news division. We haven't even talked about this so- called alleged independent commission that investigated it....They spent months and they spent tens of millions of dollars-KING: Was there a distinguished lawyer involved in that?
RATHER: A former attorney general of the United States, a good friend of the Bushes and a loyal Republican, Mr. Thornburgh, headed it. I don't have — it's nothing personal with him. But what this was, and the lawsuit alleges — and I think it can be shown — this was, in many ways, a fraud. It was a setup. It was designed-
KING: A fraud?
RATHER: Yes. It was designed to achieve a certain result so that the corporation would be exonerated.
KING: Are you saying Dick Thornburgh, former governor of Pennsylvania, former — participated in a fraud?
RATHER: That's what the record shows. That's what we allege.
—Rich Noyes is Research Director at the Media Research Center.





















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Ruin the Reputation
September 21, 2007 - 10:34 ET by allanfI didn't think its possible, but Rather may lower the public's opinion of journalists evern further than its current historic lows.
Someone wipe the drool
September 21, 2007 - 10:55 ET by jdhawkSomeone wipe the drool from blather's chin, he is spitting up again on TV. And, up the meds, the present dosage is clearly not working.
While the drive by media is busy polling our Congress and noting historical low approval ratings - which they never seem to get around to reporting - they never seem to get around to polling what the public thinks of "journalists."
Could lower than whale shit be apropos?
JD, Tom DeLay already
September 21, 2007 - 12:07 ET by MikeBJD, Tom DeLay already alluded to such a poll. Journalists are polling lower than President Bush. Wasn't it Katie Couric who was trying to slam the President asking "why should the public listen to him when his approval rating is so low?" To which DeLay replied that approval of journalists was lower than that of the President. I loved that deer in the headlights look on her face.
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Lower than Lawyers?
September 21, 2007 - 11:05 ET by ThisnThatPretty soon, if not already, Journalists will be running neck-and-neck with Lawyers. To paraphrase an old saying:
It's people like Dan that give the other 99% of journalists a bad name.
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I think it's people like
September 21, 2007 - 12:09 ET by MikeBI think it's people like Dan that give the other 1% of journalists a bad name. The 99% seem to be just like ol' Danny boy.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
At one point
September 21, 2007 - 12:52 ET by cvgbuckeyeAt one point in time, this man (and I use the word man liberally) was one of the biggest threats to a free press because of the relatively high % of the American public that believed his leftist lies.
Now he is nothing but a dried up old fart of a joke and everybody knows it but him, Larry King and Chris Matthews
Is anyone else having
September 21, 2007 - 10:51 ET by motherbeltIs anyone else having flashbacks to the movie "A Beautiful Mind"?
A Beautiful Mind
September 21, 2007 - 11:12 ET by GalvanicExcellent analogy, motherbelt! And perhaps the Hollywood Left will similarly celebrate Rather.
Dan's journalism
September 21, 2007 - 10:56 ET by LionKingWell, I guess they subscribe to the same brand of journalism...I guess he would hold him in high esteem. Someone should ask Dan how he feels about Jayson Blair.
...democracy cannot
September 21, 2007 - 10:57 ET by bassndude...democracy cannot survive, much less thrive, with the level of big corporate and big government interference and intimidation in news.
Its more like democracy cannot survive with liers in the news chairs. Bias has no place in the news Dan.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
I am not a doctor...
September 21, 2007 - 10:58 ET by HelenSBut I saw someone portray one on TV one time so I would like to observe that the ominous purple tinge to Mr. Rather's upper lip seen in this picture of the gentleman could well indicate oxygen defciency - which goes a long way toward explaining just where his synaptic-dysfunction stems from.
"Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war" - Shakespeare
Rather as National Journalism Disgrace
September 21, 2007 - 10:59 ET by GalvanicRATHER: Two reasons, two core reasons. In no particular order — although I do think the most important reason is somebody sometime has got to take a stand and say democracy cannot survive, much less thrive, with the level of big corporate and big government interference and intimidation in news.
Just when you think Rather's arrogance meter has pegged out, he out does himself.
Now, he's suing his former employer in order to, of all things, save America's democracy! Dan Rather -- Freedom's Martyr! Ugh.
I've seen some of his peers come to his defense over the Rather-gate fiasco back in 2004 --- they tried to give him the benefit of the doubt, even when there was no semblance of doubt. It's always been all about HIM, and when his lies were revealed, he blamed his accusers.
But let them rally to Rather now. Let them agree with Dangerous Dan --- a journalist who attempted to influence a Presidential election with a bogus story that violated no fewer than 10 Principals of Journalism (by CBS's own internal investigation) --- that he is filing this suit to SAVE the democracy he tried to subvert.
RATHER: I do want to make a point, Larry, here, that somebody will look at it and say he's suing for $70 million. For me, it's not about the money. It is about this principle of what we're going to do with our democracy.
Then, why not sue for $100, Rather? What makes you think you're reputation is worth $70 million even if you were right?
Rather is worse than partisan, egotistical hack; he's a journalistic disgrace.
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Superiority
September 21, 2007 - 11:02 ET by ThisnThatDan is soooooo much superior to any of the rest of us. And yes, finally, I can sleep easy tonight knowing that the Guardian of Democracy is watching over the country.
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" he's suing his
September 21, 2007 - 12:31 ET by danbo" he's suing his former employer in order to, of all things, save America's democracy!"
Is that like fighting impeachment and hanging on, to save America?
"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT
Rather - Clinton
September 21, 2007 - 13:10 ET by GalvanicYou're right, danbo. It's just like Clinton's claim that he had to fight impeachment to save the Constitution.
Rather and Clinton are utterly shameless.
Dan, taken a poll on this?
September 21, 2007 - 11:19 ET by vrwc13KING: You think the report was correct?
RATHER: Yes. And I think most people know by now that it was correct.
Rather a large assumption on your part Rather?
Seems you subscribe to the following statement...
Yeah, logic, reason, facts play less of a role now in the way we make decisions in America. – Al Gore
I think he is full of
September 21, 2007 - 11:43 ET by ForeverOnTheRightI think he is full of himself if he thinks helping himself is 'saving our democracy'. Rather, your alone in this, what has happened to you is not a threat to democracy, It's a lesson to other journalists to not do any "fake but true" journalism. Evidence that was spread widely on the Net shows conclusively that the documents where fake.
As for your “investigative journalism”, it’s a spin. In reality it’s advocacy journalism, most often a way to boost ratings, make money and/or push a political agenda. It is not really public service, a public has the right to know thing, it’s all about money. Nobody ever asked you to investigate anything, you and the MSM are doing it on your own.
First of all, when Rather
September 21, 2007 - 11:46 ET byFirst of all, when Rather reported his Bush/NG story, he alone was not CBS News. He is not the one who decides whether or not a story will air. That is the decision of the heads of the news division. The CBS news division previewed that story with two corporate lawyers who gave it their blessing and the CBS news division gave it the stamp of approval to air. They could have killed it and Rather would have had no say in the matter. They went with the decision to air the story--true or not--so they are the ones who are responsible for its' contents. This is not a lawsuit questioning the veracity of a story, it's about placing blame on someone who had no control over what CBS decided what should or should not go to air.
Mr. Rather - there were 2 candidates for president
September 21, 2007 - 11:53 ET by Gary HallMr. Rather - there were 2 candidates for president. Had you investigated, with interest comparable to your personal vendetta into Bush's life, the other candidate -- would the people believe you on that story?
On the other side of his issue - John Kerry. Leaving the Swift Boat folks aside, there were serious questions (certainly as serious as the one's Rather had of Bush) out there concerning a number of issues around Kerry; his enlistment (how many times did the draft board turn him down - RE: deferment), his medals, his departure from Vietnam, and his lie about his trip to Cambodia (and blaming it on Nixon, instead of LBJ), etc.
There was retired Navy Rear Admiral William Schachte. He was not one of the Swift Boaters. His story appeared in a column. NBC's Lisa Myers conducted one interview with him:
Did you hear the pitter pat of little producer's feet rushing to get the Admiral on their set?
Is there any summary out there (or your view) that the CBS Evening News, with Dan Rather, really ever seriously investigated any of this, and actually grill, on TV, Kerry or his staff on these issues? Or, is the simple truth, that Rather, the CBS News and most of the rest of the MSM, as expected, had no stomach for being news reporters when it came to their side of the isle.
Always seemed to me, that if Rather and Mapes disagreed with the Admiral, here, that Rather would have smeared him, like they did the Swift Boaters. But there is an easier way to protect your candidate, safer to not bring it up - that way, folks don't wonder.
Great analysis, Rich. (;~> gary
How could the military
September 21, 2007 - 12:52 ET byHow could the military fail five times in awarding medals? They awarded Kerry three Purple Hearts, a bronze star and a Silver Star. The detractors will say he deserved none of these medals, so did he award them to himself? Are there not corroborating eyewitness accounts of after action reports? If he didn't deserve these medals, why didn't the swiftbrainers contest it at the time? Why were some of the same swiftbrainers who claimed there was no enemy fire awarded medals as well if they didn't deserve them?
blaster, it isint hard when
September 21, 2007 - 12:59 ET by bassndudeblaster, it isint hard when your the recommending and approving officer. Not hard at all. You do all the writing. You dont have to send in the medical reports to get a purple heart. Im sure Kerry recommended himself for the CMH and got down graded to silver stars. He is a fraud.
Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!
Didn't you mean to use the
September 21, 2007 - 13:40 ET byDidn't you mean to use the contraction "you're"?
You're=you are
In addition, do a fact check on your statement and you'll find you're wrong!
blaster, when you play grammar Nazi
September 21, 2007 - 15:40 ET by RJit just proves you have a small, weak mind....but I repeat myself.....
(h/t to Sam Clemens)
A small, weak, mind is
September 21, 2007 - 15:44 ET by Free StinkerA small, weak, mind is required for being Liberal. ;-)
But you repeat yourself....
September 21, 2007 - 15:46 ET by RJ:^>
You seem
September 21, 2007 - 13:00 ET by cvgbuckeyeYou seem to have quite a fair amount of expertise about people who are not very blessed with swift brains blaster. Do you have some training in the art of stupidity that we should know about?
Well, actually, we already know.
Or maybe you were in Viet Nam or Kosovo or Iraq or some other field of honor? Sounds a little more like the boy scouts in some coastal, blue state, huh?
Typical NB reponder. No
September 21, 2007 - 13:35 ET byTypical NB responder. No facts, just name calling.
Blaster
September 21, 2007 - 15:49 ET by Free StinkerLet us know when you bring some facts around here.
We'd all be interested. And shocked.
. . . and no matter how horrific the terrorist attack, it's conducted by losers. Winners don't need to hijack airplanes. Winners have an Air Force. --P.J. O'Rourke
Here's some facts, if you're
September 21, 2007 - 16:10 ET byHere's some facts, if you're willing to take the time to read them.
blaster --
September 21, 2007 - 13:08 ET by Gary Hallblaster -- I can't hang around - leaving on a weekend family trip.
But, for once, why do you not, sit back and read my comment. Then ponder, from an angle of media bias - the right for all of us to expect that one of America's premier news shows would investigate both sides with the same vigor.
Kerry enlisted so that he not get drafted. Kerry got out early. Kerry lied about his Cambodian mission - and then blamed it on the wrong president. Adm. Schachte was not one of the Swift Boaters. He was there. He get's one interview?
If Rather, and the rest of the media, felt that he was not credible, then every American would have known his name, as Rather and crew sought to discredit him. Instead - there is silence.
In my mind - Bush, Clinton, Kerry, etc. all exposed themselves to questions. Either treat them all the same, or leave it alone. (;~>
Why hasn't the Bush
September 21, 2007 - 13:32 ET byWhy hasn't the Bush Administration ever provided documents as to Bush's whereabouts the last year of his National Guard duty?
Because the Bush
September 21, 2007 - 13:41 ET by MightyMouthBecause the Bush administration is under no requirement to fulfill the wishes or whims of blaster?
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
blaster
September 21, 2007 - 13:42 ET by Gary HallGot to go.
One of these days - when you learn to first stick to the discussion at hand, instead of trolling off to another point, perhaps folks will answer your question. But for now - there were several on the table, already.
And I love your, "how could the military --- 5 times," or whatever. Like how could the military make mistakes, loose track of billions of dollars, miss targets.. come-on that's probably the point. The military is a lot like all government run agencies. Both Bush's and Kerry's easiest defense is that anything is possible in such a bureacratic environment.
The question at hand, is about Rather's baltent partisan agenda.
The question at hand, is
September 21, 2007 - 14:01 ET byThe question at hand, is about Rather's baltent partisan agenda.
No, the question at hand is whether or not the Whitehouse pressured CBS into disciplining Dan Rather for a story that was aired with the approval of the CBS news division.
Good one blaster!
September 21, 2007 - 14:16 ET by KarmaDo you have any idea how rediculous this sounds to any reasonable thinking person? This Whitehouse being able to pressure ANY MSM outlet. Thats rich.
Go easy on my little
September 21, 2007 - 14:23 ET by PeskyDaneGo easy on my little slave. Blarsen/Blaster has had a tough time of it. It's not easy being totally owned.
Peskers! Did you ever
September 21, 2007 - 15:17 ET byPeskers!
Did you ever move out of mom's basement and buy a house, or is it just too much of a financial burden when you work slinging fast food.
Blaster
September 21, 2007 - 15:21 ET by Free StinkerWow,
that was original . . . hater.
Right. They only pass
September 21, 2007 - 15:24 ET byRight. They only pass measures in the Senate to control what type of advertising the media can accept. Go read a newspaper Mr. Reasonable Thinking Person and you'll see how "rediculous" this administration really is.
read a newspaper???
September 21, 2007 - 15:34 ET by LionKingWow...that was insightful. Read a newspaper to get an unbiased report on the administration...or the war on terror...talk about being ridiculous.
So, what you're saying is...
September 21, 2007 - 15:41 ET by Karma...this Whitehouse passes measures in the Senate to pressure the MSM to fire Dan Rather? Once again...good one blaster.
blASSter,
September 21, 2007 - 14:15 ET by Dave RWhy hasn't Kerry released the rest of his documents, particularly the one pertaining to his discharge?
It wouldn't be because his discharge was not, in fact, honorable, (which would disqualify him from the presidency) now would it?
Nawwwww, that couldn't be it.
When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.
Why hasn't Bush released his
September 21, 2007 - 15:05 ET byWhy hasn't Bush released his discharge records?
(yawn)
September 21, 2007 - 15:17 ET by Free Stinker(yawn)
Bush's discharge was
September 21, 2007 - 15:28 ET by Dave RBush's discharge was honorable, as no one has yet produced any evidence that it wasn't.
The same cannot be said for the Marxist John Kerry, who I believe should have been prosecuted for, at the very least sedition, if not outright treason.
When I'm president, privatization is off the table because it's not the answer to anything.-Hillary Rodham, September 3, 2007 AARP Legislative Conference.
Get a life.
September 21, 2007 - 16:24 ET by danboA number of years ago, I finally bit the bullet and got my professional license. Among the things; I had to provide documentation as to my entire professional experience. Included in that was a ten year period with a specific government agency. The government had lost all documentation of my employment. (It's probably in a box in the attic.) Fortunately there were still a few people I worked with still there. And my photo in it's history. And a training video I did. (I qualified even without that job.)
If it weren't a requirement for the license? I could care less what people though as to my prior employment.
Bush has demonstrated he was with the guard. Apparently, there are many who want documentation of every time he went to the bathroom. To make sure he didn't sluff off.
Get a life.
"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT
John fn Kerry so brave only debates on Dick Cavett Show
September 21, 2007 - 14:31 ET by mastersofdeceit" why didn't the swiftbrainers contest it at the time"
Actually the beef goes back to 1971, not specifically re: his medals, just his conduct.
http://www.intellect...
John O'Neil never served
September 21, 2007 - 14:59 ET byJohn O'Neil never served with John Kerry. The end.
The link wasn't "about" O'Neil, blaster
September 21, 2007 - 15:27 ET by RJIt's obvious that you just threw up yet another knee-jerk post without knowing what you're talking about.
"The Swift Boat Veterans’ beef with Kerry goes back to 1971, when John Kerry was loudly proclaiming to anyone who would listen (or make a donation to his political campaign for a seat in the US House of Representative) that all Vietnam Vets were war criminals by definition — simply because of the widespread use of free-fire tactics and the bombing of Laos. The over 2,000,000 Veterans of that war took understandable umbrage at these charges and immediately began to respond to then aspiring Congressman Kerry and his Vet-bashing cronies."
Ever hear of My Lai?
September 21, 2007 - 16:17 ET byEver hear of My Lai?
blaster, you think that's relevant to the link because...
September 21, 2007 - 16:22 ET by RJI look forward to your explaining why one incident proves Kerry was right when he condemned the rest of the military.
BTW, have you bothered to read the link yet? No? Didn't think so....
Let's set aside the swifties
September 21, 2007 - 17:27 ET by mastersofdeceitLet's set aside the swifties for a moment. We all know Kerry was brought down by swiss cheese on a hoagie! :)
http://www.washingto...
http://web.archive.o...
Dang, swift boated by swiss cheese.
Ever hear of Nanking?
September 21, 2007 - 16:26 ET by danboEver hear of Nanking? Should every Japanese pay for that?
"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT
Ever hear of Malmedy? This
September 21, 2007 - 16:50 ET byEver hear of Malmedy? This could go on forever.
Which means your Ma Lai was
September 22, 2007 - 09:09 ET by danboYour Ma Lai was nothing but meaningless Bull Sh**.
Are you telling us Nanking didn't exist? Or Sandakan? Or Katyn Forest?
"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT
Blaster
September 21, 2007 - 16:59 ET by Gary HallSure have .. according to witnesses.. Kerry was a bit itchy on the trigger finger -- apparently that's how he got one of his purple hearts. Self inflicted - firing indiscrimently in a panic. It was the type of thing that happened when knee jerk reactions occur on the battlefield -- all the way up and all the way down.
Danny, what color is the
September 21, 2007 - 12:01 ET by MikeBDanny, what color is the sky in your little universe? Or, do you actually believe what you are saying? I haven't seen this much natural organic fertilizer since some of our calves got the scours.
You think "most people" know your lies and forgeries were correct? Danny boy, not even "most people" in your newsrooms thought you were correct, and you know how credulous you journalists are. You are doing this to preserve democracy? The money is not important? Move on over to the next field, Danny, this one is well fertilized. You are suing for for ego and for money. With all your excuses, you remind me of nearly every convict behind bars: the cops are out to get me, I had a bad lawyer, the judge is a crook, yada, yada, yada. Face it Danny boy, you ****** up. You lied. If you yourself didn't commit the forgeries of the documents, you certainly did not dig very deep to authenticate them. You were arrogant, you were sloppy and you got caught.
With your credibility and ability to ignore truth and facts right before your eyes, you and Bagdad Bob need to open your own news agency. You two would make a great team.
"A communist is someone who reads Marx. An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx." Ronald Reagan
He's STILL a lying SOB
September 21, 2007 - 12:03 ET by Ole_SargeI was one of many that refuted Rather's "so-called" evidence. the infamous letter that was supposedly written "back in the day."
PLEASE, I used to have to inspect Guard Units when I was on HQ TAC Staff, (someone other than the Colonel (I.G. Inspector) actually goes through the files and each document, or physicallygoes out to count the bullets)
The format WAS NEVER an official format for ANY USAF operation! So many errors, the least CBS could have done was hired some recently separated Airman with a grudge to advise on the formatting!!!
Then to use a typewriter that was 10 frigging years YOUNGER than the document was supposed to have been...
ALL HOLLYWOOD FICTION.
I "used" to like Dan Rather, I met him while he visited Ramstein Air Base during the stuff about Bosnia. (Hey, weren't we supposed to be there "ONLY A YEAR?" That was nearly 10 years ago now.) He is a worse than a sell-out. He's a dangerous liberal with delusions, and a mic, and a camera.
Did you inspect me?
September 21, 2007 - 13:57 ET by ricklailAfter I come out of the Army in '71 I was in an Army guard unit until '77 and again from '82-'84. You may have inspected us.
Even if GWB was in the air guard he still had to go through basic and flight school. He had to have spent time on active duty. He probably spent enough that he was eligible for the GI Bill. This is all BS about him not serving. There were lots of guys in the guard and reserve that went through basic and AIT with me. They spent that time on active duty.
He spent more time in the military than Clinton (Bill and Hillary), Edwards, Obama et.al. I never read a letter that he wrote to Col. Holmes loving his country but loathing the military.
A bona fide and certified member of the beer guzzling, NASCAR watching middle class.
"A bona fide and certified
September 21, 2007 - 14:03 ET by"A bona fide and certified member of the beer guzzling, NASCAR watching middle class."
That kind of says it all, right there.
Bigoted? "There is a
September 21, 2007 - 16:34 ET by danboBigoted?
"There is a clear attempt to establish truth not by scientific methods but by perpetual repetition."
- Richard S. Lindzen, Ph.D. Professor of Meteorology, MIT
Possible (posted in the correct spot.)
September 21, 2007 - 22:00 ET by Ole_SargeWhat idiots like "Rather Dan Rather Not" forget, the AIR DEFENSE
mission WAS at one time a pretty critical one. That's what the Younger
George Bush flew, in supped-up over engined fighters that had a very
nasty habit of crashing and burning, killing the pilot if you ever
forgot and got too "cocky" while flying.
I knew lots of pilots that wore "cowboy boots" while flying for the
Guard, even into the 1990s. That were hap-hazard about orders and
trips, it was a problem at a couple units in various states, not just
Texas. But NEVER as flakey as the CBS "snow job."
But if we still had "hot alerts" in 2001 like we did in 1983, I don't
think the events of September 11th, 2001 would have happened as they
did. One of the "Peace dividends" for the 1990s, no more big bad Soviet
Union, no more Alerts. If it wasn't that morning there was a major
EXERCISE sceduled, there would have been NO planes in the air so fast.
(I know, not fast enough or flying the the correct direction.)
Lost his mind
September 21, 2007 - 12:04 ET by Conservative_in_mass."RATHER: That's what the record shows. That's what we allege."
Uh, Dan you have no credibility. It left a long time ago. You can "allege" things all you want (you're good at that). But as far as any rational individual goes, your opinion is worthless.
The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. ~ Unknown
Must the the lights
September 21, 2007 - 12:25 ET by philhoeyFirst Walter Concrete (for brains) and now Dan Rather (be right all the time) have gone off to the to looney bin. Must be all the years all the hot lights.
Most People
September 21, 2007 - 13:45 ET by ricklailRather says that most people believe his story. My grandmaw would always say "Are you telling a story?" when she thought we were lying. Maybe he is using the word "story" the way grandmaw did.
Aren't we, the ones that comment and blog here, most people? Let's see a show of hands as to whether or not Rather is lying.
A bona fide and certified member of the beer guzzling, NASCAR watching middle class.
Apparently, grandmaw isn't a
September 21, 2007 - 14:06 ET byApparently, grandmaw isn't a journalist. A "story" is a written account of events that appears in print or in the electronic media.
Story
September 21, 2007 - 14:38 ET by ricklailA story can also mean a "tale". The American Heritage Dictionay says it can also be a lie. My grandmaw was a great woman. She didn't have to tell 5 lies to cover the first one. She told the truth.
A bona fide and certified member of the beer guzzling, NASCAR watching middle class.
No doubt your grandmaw was a
September 21, 2007 - 15:09 ET byNo doubt your grandmaw was a great woman, as was mine. Now go back to pickling your brain.
Here's a copy of the
September 21, 2007 - 14:41 ET byHere's a copy of the original memo signed by Lt. Col. Killian.
And here's a picture of jon
September 21, 2007 - 15:26 ET by MightyMouthAnd here's a picture of jon carry reporting for duty as a rocket surgeon right after being discharged from an Anti-American rally with Jane Fonda in 1969.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Gee, I wonder if there are
September 21, 2007 - 16:20 ET byGee, I wonder if there are any pictures of Bush looking like an idiot? (Far too many to link to).
But you'll have to admit
September 21, 2007 - 16:36 ET by MightyMouthBut you'll have to admit that none of bush's can top Mr. Bunny's for sheer unintentional comedic value.
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
Oh My Word!
September 21, 2007 - 22:02 ET by Ole_SargeLOL!!! That's a good one!
I think the statement,
September 21, 2007 - 14:44 ET by Ruths husband BenI think the statement, "I've never been clearer in my mind about anything -- I can't recall being clearer." is the most telling. Most folks who suffer from senile dementia are not aware of their failing mental health. I hope his children take away his car keys.
"We just can't trust the American people to make those types of choices.... Government has to make those choices for people" -HRC
50 Years of Lies - Suing for More Time?
September 21, 2007 - 19:38 ET by w0tmPerhaps few read it and even fewer noticed the burying of Walter Cronkite's autobiography published the year he turned 80 (the magical year everyone is entitled to "fess up" and not give a damn about what they say, do or write). WHY did the "turn left only" media either ignore or pan his autobiography? It was barely mentioned in the NY Times except for being on their Best Seller list (but didn't stay there long). You'd think the media would have hailed his tome as next to the Bible (you can draw your own conclusions on whether some of the left would change the ranking).
Well, not too far into chapter two (two or three - my copy is holding up a lop-sided desk in the basement so it would be hard to reach right now), Walter flat out (no way to spin it any other way other than plead Alzheimer's - which a few did) admitted he lied, lied, lied for years, years, years. About the Vietnam War and mosteverything else not to his liking all the years he was anchor of CBS Evening News.
He droned on about how he felt it was his duty to "make a difference" in the world and not just report the news. He specifically wrote about the considerable time he spent every day rewriting the stories he was going to be reading in a few hours something even "making things up to make an important point" (I remember that comment specifically). Writing as if he deserved a medal for all the extra time he had spent working that few supposedly knew of. "The End Justifies the Means" - the mantra of the Left.
The few far-left Web sites (MoveOn.Org was around back then but "blogging" was still a fringe activity) went absolutely bonkers!! The big question was: "who the Hell let this old man spill the beans!" (Witless) "Old man" since Walter had committed the cardinal sin of the left (pulled back the cloth exposing the "man behind the curtain" (I'm from Kansas - Oz Land). No remarks were made about the First Amendment and the 40 years of loyal service he had given to build/destroy (take your pick based on your perspective) our country.
There must have been a flurry of phone calls among the thousands of media gate keepers of "what the Hell do we do now!" "Kill it, bury it, burn it!" was the cry (my guess as the effect was just that). He did a book tour that started in Montana and ended in Wyoming.
Now we have the same (possible) moment on the horizon but this time for spite. Dan just turned that magical age of 80! Coincidence? I think not. Will he pull a "Walter" on the stand? We can all only hope so! Eyes closed, heels clicking together, wishing hard (remember, I'm from Kansas) "make it so, make it so, make it so! please, please, please!"
But, alas, even a failed Las Vegas bookie would take the bet, if it does occur, all will be gagged beforehand and trial scheduled to begin the day AFTER Election Day, 2008.
Below is a tag line many of my posts end with but this is Dan to a "t". Agree?
*************************** View http://www.youtube.c... to FINALLY understand why liberals think the way they do. This was the most informative 47 minutes I've ever spent. Please -- take the time to view it.
Worth the load time and also watching
September 21, 2007 - 20:43 ET by american-americanquote: View http://www.youtube.c... to FINALLY understand why liberals think the way they do. This was the most informative 47 minutes I've ever spent. Please -- take the time to view it.
end quote...
Thank you for that link.
I saw how long that video was and thought.. nah, I don't want to give that much of my time to this.
But, I started listening and could not stop. He has described the mentality of Liberals better than any attempt I have seen before. Those who wonder why they think the way they do should take the time to see what he has to say.
Possible!
September 21, 2007 - 21:59 ET by Ole_Sargewrong spot