60 Minutes Broadcast Edits Out Laughable Obama Claim as 4th Best President
By P.J. Gladnick | December 16, 2011 | 19:24
George Washington was the father of our country.
Eh! No big deal. Barack Obama is better...at least in his own mind. Such was the laughably absurd claim of President Obama on 60 Minutes last Sunday. What? You didn't see it? That was because 60 Minutes conveniently left it out of its broadcast. If you want to see Obama engage in this latest bit of over the top braggadocio you can only see it at the online 60 Minutes Overtime which has a video of the entire interview. You can catch Obama's excessive praise of himself at the tail end of the interview starting with Steve Kroft's question just before the 55 minute mark:
KROFT: Tell me, what do you consider your major accomplishments? If this is your last speech. What have you accomplished?
PRESIDENT OBAMA: Well, we're not done yet. I've got five more years of stuff to do. But not only saving this country from a great depression. Not only saving the auto industry. But putting in place a system in which we're gonna start lowering health care costs and you're never gonna go bankrupt because you get sick or somebody in your family gets sick. Making sure that we have reformed the financial system, so we never again have taxpayer-funded bailouts, and the system is more stable and secure. Making sure that we've got millions of kids out here who are able to go to college because we've expanded student loans and made college more affordable. Ending Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Decimating al Qaeda, including Bin Laden being taken off the field. Restoring America's respect around the world.
The issue here is not gonna be a list of accomplishments. As you said yourself, Steve, you know, I would put our legislative and foreign policy accomplishments in our first two years against any president -- with the possible exceptions of Johnson, F.D.R., and Lincoln -- just in terms of what we've gotten done in modern history. But, you know, but when it comes to the economy, we've got a lot more work to do. And we're gonna keep on at it.
Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your Obama. That's because in his not so humble opinion, he ranks even higher than John F. Kennedy. Don't feel so bad, President Kennedy. Obama also feels that his administration is better than that of Presidents Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Jackson, Theodore Roosevelt, and Ronald Reagan to name a few.
Hey, Woodrow Wilson! You failed to get the U.S. Senate to vote for a treaty to join the League of Nations. That's because you lacked the up close and personal political skills of our Obama who is renown for shmoozing politicians. The administration of Harry Truman brought about NATO and the Marshall Plan that saved Europe? Boring! Obama used his incredible diplomatic skills to bring the Olympics to Chicago. Okay, he came sort of close to doing it but, hey, he bagged a Nobel Peace Prize for basically existing. Beat that, Harry!
Oh. You say the Dwight D. Eisenhower administration gave us the Interstate Highway System? Big deal, Ike! Barack Obama could have Interstate Highwayed this country in his sleep.
So kneel, all you presidential peons, before the greatness that is Obama. His radiance shines so bright that it dazzled Steve Kroft to the extent that he didn't even bother to ask an obvious followup question.
One can only guess just how extensive the trademark Kroft look of bemused skepticism would have covered his face if, say, George W. Bush had made the same claim of presidential greatness. When Obama makes it, the laughable claim just gets edited out of the broadcast even though it was by far the highlight of the interview.
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He is the one
Submitted by Vonu on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 7:38pm.
He's been waiting for.
I think I've found gaffe #106
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:42am.
Nothing like a high opinion of oneself....but of course, he IS the Narcissist AND Chief!
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 109 (and Counting)
I think you missed one where
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 9:51am.
I think you missed one where he was talking about people with asthma taking a breathalyzer instead of a nebulyzer
That's #62 Rick
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 10:05am.
"Medical Genius, Off Prompter".
I put my own snarky titles on some of them, if his own words aren't stoopid enough, LOL.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 109 (and Counting)
Notice how he picks extreme
Submitted by eaglewingz08 on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 7:39pm.
Notice how he picks extreme socialists for his three top spot. So the lede should be Obama is the fourth best socialist President. I tend to think there are quite a few grests ahead of Obama-Washington Jefferson Reagan Adams Madison Monroe Jackson Lincoln Truman Eisenhower Coolidge to name a few. His self evaluation is ridiculous.
Huh?
Submitted by Unsane on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:52am.
Lincoln , an extreme Socialist?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
I think he was confusing him
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 3:27pm.
with that other guy, Abraham Lenin.
Jer
Jer......
Submitted by BEGRUNT on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 6:50pm.
Was that Vladimir Ilyich's smarter brother? ;-)
"A nation can suffer it's fool's, but cannot survive the traitor"
Cicero
BEGRUNT...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 7:15pm.
smarter indeed, but, alas, a victim of too little ambition and too much vodka. He spent his waning years as a poor and forgotten potato farmer outside of Minsk.
Jer
The Secret Service has got nothing...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 7:40pm.
...on protecting this clown the way the Lame Stream Media does. If they did half of what they did and continue to do to the GOP candidates to Brack Insane Oblamer, he couldn't have been elected to a job on MESSDNC.
Well,
Submitted by bkeyser on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 7:43pm.
integrity is not his strong suit. Regardless, you wouldn't expect him to say he ranks second worst to Jimmy Carter, right? Rating presidents is kind of silly anyway; FDR universally receives strong ratings and it took him more than a decade to end the Depression, and only with the onslaught of world war was he able to accomplish that.
FDR's high ratings......
Submitted by GregE on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:56pm.
...........are specifically due to WWII. The rest of his presidency gets lumped in as a success, when the reality is, manipulative and dictatorial tendencies, new levels of usurping the Constitution, spending citizenry money like never before and putting in place a government-as-parent mentality that is engrained into generations and for the remaining years of our nation. Whether it be only 1, 1000, or 10,000 more years of our existence, he planted a seed that became a mighty oak that reproduced so vastly that the mentality will always be a part of our society.
Political Correctness - the belief that one can pick up a turd by the clean end.
o'bama is first in many things
Submitted by ThisnThat on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 7:44pm.
#1 in number of financial downgrades this country has experienced.
#1 in longest time ever of unemployment > 9%
#1 in number of people on food stamps
#1 in national debt
#1 in pissing off our allies
#1 in number of apologies about America
#1 in presidential golf outings
And so on. He's dead last in greatness, however, training Jimmy Carter by miles and miles.
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“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court
A narcissist -- in his own words
Submitted by Galvanic on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 7:45pm.
The GOP ought to capture that quote and play it in their 2012 ads.
Thanks for the laugh, P.J.
Submitted by Dave. on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 7:48pm.
All I can say is.
Well, we're not done yet. I've got five more years of stuff to do.
God help us if he is reelected.
-Dave
If he's reelected, I think I
Submitted by dzejk113 on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 7:55pm.
If he's reelected, I think I might just move to Poland. They're one of the most conservative countries in Europe, and they'd probably be more conservative than America would be after a second obama term. And as a bonus, in Poland I wouldn't have to constantly tell people how to say or spell my last name.
My husband is trying like crazy
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 8:04pm.
to get me to Poland. It's clean, no droopy drawers...
If only I could speak Polish and it wasn't so close to Russia.
How fast would I get run out of Poland?
Submitted by Unsane on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:11pm.
I'd go to Poland, problem is that I am most familiar with two languages: German and Russian. I'm sure that would make me VERY popular there...
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Uns
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:25pm.
My husband's guy from Poland saw some Russian art work in my house and asked if I was Russian. He had no problem with the Russians, but Germans, he HATES.
By the way, Poland loves capitalism and is doing pretty well from what we hear.
@Unsane: There's alot of
Submitted by dzejk113 on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:40pm.
@Unsane: There's alot of nice people in Poland, and German is taught in the schools there kinda like how Spanish is taught in schools here. And Germans are the largest minority group in Poland, so I don't think they'd run you out of the country just for speaking German. If you speak Russian, then you could probably learn Polish fairly easily, they're both slavic languages and very similar.
@Radical: They still aren't too fond of Russians, especially with the truth about the Katyn Massacre coming to light recently, and the plane crash that killed their president last year, which some blame on Russia. I'm half German, so hopefully they won't hold that against me lol, but at least I have a Polish name.
Yeah, they're not doing too bad, as long as they can keep the EU from screwing up their economy. I read an article yesterday where the former president of Poland's Central Bank accurately described the real problem with Greece, and Italy, and the other Eurozone countries with failing economies: they're own domestic policies. And he said that bailout after bailout won't solve the problem. After I read that, I thought to myself, THAT'S why I'm going to Poland if obama gets reelected
I've met a few Polish girls over the years
Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 8:55pm.
:-)
-Dave
Polish girls are the best!
Submitted by dzejk113 on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 2:48am.
So have I, and that's the other reason why I'm moving to Poland if obama is reelected, or if he's not, then it'll still be the reason I might move to Poland ; ) Polish girls are amazing! and I'm not just talking about how beautiful they are.
God always helps us, we just
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:15pm.
God always helps us, we just need to recognize it.
The great and powerful potentate....
Submitted by stage9 on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 8:18pm.
has been drinking HIS OWN kool-aid!
It's laughable but understandable when OTHERS drink the kool-aid, but when you start drinking your own, that's just clinical psychosis.
Remember this lunacy?
Is Barack Obama the Messiah?
http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/
"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner." — Malcolm Muggeridge
I think a more apt comparison
Submitted by tcm14 on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 8:19pm.
I think a more apt comparison than Presidents would be diseases.
Like he could say "I would put our legislative and foreign policy accomplishments in our first two years against any disease -- including flesh-eating virus, cancer, and hemorrhoids..."
Such a realistic comparison...
Submitted by timm66 on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:37pm.
...that I almost covered my computer screen with my adult beverage! That is the funniest thing I've heard all week. I just about spit my drink out! Hilarious!
Thanks for the laugh!
Obama is a sociopath and has a Narcissistic Personality Disorder
Submitted by David Kramer on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 8:24pm.
Here is a link to the symptoms and description or profile of the sociopath- http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html
Just a couple of the symptoms-
Glibness and Superficial Charm
Manipulative and Conning
Grandiose Sense of Self
Pathological Lying
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
Shallow Emotions
Need for Stimulation
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Other Related Qualities:
1. Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
2. Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
3. Authoritarian
4. Secretive
5. Paranoid
6. Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
7. Conventional appearance
8. Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
9. Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
10. Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
11. Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
12. Incapable of real human attachment to another
13. Unable to feel remorse or guilt
14. Extreme narcissism and grandiose
15. May state readily that their goal is to rule the world
(The above traits are based on the psychopathy checklists of H. Cleckley and R. Hare.)
WOW
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 8:30pm.
Foreign policy success? Let's see, Iran laughed in our face when Obama asked for the drone back, China's navy is preparing for war, Iraq kicked us out, Pakistan tried to hide Bin Laden from us, our former allies, Israel, Britain, Poland, etc, no longer trust us, and he's bowed down to every foreign enemy possible.
Rad...Obama enjoys very high approval ratings in other
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 8:53pm.
nations for his handling of foreign policy--65% approval in Poland, for example, and that's lower than the European average--(compared to just 21% approval by Republicans in US). However, I doubt NewsBusters has a sizable Polish audience, so they may not have gotten the message that Obama is a dismal failure in the international arena.
Jer
You are impressed, I am vomiting.
Submitted by Unsane on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:16pm.
Of course! This is because He is a wimp of the first magnitude.
I know you are just filled with glee - "The world LOVES us because of His Majesty The Shahinshah!" - but unfortunately for you, the #1 goal of foreign policy is NOT to be universally loved. I prefer to have people feel any (or all) of there following three emotions regarding the United States:
1) Respect.
2) Hatred.
3) (My favorite) Fear.
And that is why, though I wasn't crazy about Bush's domestic policy, I loved his foreign policy.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
I am neither impressed nor vomiting, only stating the facts.
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:20pm.
Jer
To butcher Dzugashvili...
Submitted by Unsane on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:29pm.
Yes. Your point is that the Wimp-in-Chief, your hero, has a wonderful foreign policy because people around the world LOVE Him.
And they love Him because He is a wimp and the world knows it. Anyone can walk all over the United States and treat this country like a laughingstock as long as He is in the White House and THAT is why people around the world love him.
Oh, and by the way, to butcher a quote from Vozhd: How many electoral votes has Poland?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Why don't you just compose and post my comments from
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:46pm.
here on out, Unsane. Then you can indulge your laughable fantasies unconstrained by fidelity to fact.
Jer
Now you are just being childish
Submitted by Unsane on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:49pm.
Quit blaming me for YOUR being a party hack and being so slavishly devoted to His Majesty The Shahinshah.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Well, I am impressed with your ability, Jeringo, to kiss---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:34pm.
Obama's ass without vomiting.
Must be a lib thing.
MD
If Poland thinks he's so
Submitted by Free Stinker on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:19pm.
If Poland thinks he's so great, they can have him!
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I cannot let Jer's insult against Poland stand!
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:32pm.
I dispute his stats. No way are the Polish enamored of Obama.
http://www.voanews.com/english/news/europe/Poland-Missile-Defense-Key-Is...
I didnt see any stats
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:43pm.
Just his opinion. Although, they aint the brightest folks in the world. Just take a look at the shape their in
Isn't it odd how my "opinion"--65% approval in Poland--just
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:13pm.
happened to be the same as the statistical fact?
Jer
What's odd is
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:20pm.
It was me who provided the Stat.
Really Boudin? I posted 65% at 8:53. What time
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:59pm.
did you provide the stat?
Jer
I provided the link for the 65%
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 11:26pm.
You provided a pdf after
Or not.
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:26pm.
.
John Harwood? Is that you?
Submitted by Unsane on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:50pm.
And Dewey defeated Truman.
It's an indisputable fact! A poll said so.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Here are the stats, Rad...feel free to explain them to Boudin.
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:59pm.
source.
Jer
Really, a pdf?
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:11pm.
Just great.
Can you open .pdf's?
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:16pm.
It's well indexed if you can.
Jer
Why would I?
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:23pm.
When I already posted a comprehensive link.
Are you stalking me again, so you can call me a stalker?
Good grief, Boudin..
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 11:02pm.
Grow up.
Jer
So, that would be a
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 11:09pm.
Yes, I presume
Jer
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:24pm.
After searching a few sites I found what is true of most polls, they can argued. Here's an interesting one, http://pewglobal.org/files/2011/04/Pew-Global-Attitudes-Spring-2010-Repo...
The fact is, obama is sinking in foreign countries the way he is in the U.S., although perhaps at a slower rate.
Well he is doing about as well in the
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:37pm.
Middle East as he is here. Funny how Bush had higher approval in the ME then Obama. Either way, he is falling everywhere, even Poland
Boudin
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:44pm.
When a world leader says "Pretty please may I have my spy equipment back that you hacked into and landed?" instead of blowing the thing up so they can't use the technology, the leaders of the other country laugh their @sses off.
How things should be done
Submitted by Unsane on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:54pm.
Exactly.
President Unsane would have handled it like this:
Unsane: Give me the drone.
Iranians: No, infidel.
Unsane: Sorry, I tried...
About 30 minutes later the drone is destroyed with the Iranian military personnel and equipment surrounding it.
Unsane: "Well hey, I just wanted the drone back, sheesh..."
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
You've got my vote.
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 11:02pm.
.
Yep, seems everyone is impressed
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 11:02pm.
With Obama's weak kneed Foreign policies
You mean like Bush's sniveling, spineless apology to the Chinese
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 11:27pm.
for our aircraft being downed by their interceptors over international waters and forced to crash land in Chinese territory? That was really standing up to the Beijing totalitarians. They're still laughing over that one.
Jer
Exellent,
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 11:39pm.
April 8, 2001: US Refuses to Apologize for Collision of Spy Plane with Chinese Fighter Edit event Negotiations and disputes over the collision and subsequent crash of a US spy plane and a Chinese fighter jet over Chinese waters continue (see March 31, 2001, April 4-5, 2001, and April 6-7, 2001). US officials warn long-term relations are at risk because of the dispute; Vice President Dick Cheney insists the US will not apologize over the incident. President Bush sends an unsigned letter to the wife of the slain Chinese pilot, Wang Wei, that expresses his “regret” over his death. Secretary of State Colin Powell says the letter is “very personal” and “not part of the political exchange.” Powell says that evening on national television, “[W]e have expressed regrets and we have expressed our sorrow, and we are sorry that the life was lost.” [CNN, 4/2001; Associated Press, 4/8/2001]
Nice going there Jer
Keep reading, Boudin...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:15am.
you're almost to the part about the US sending its regrets to the Chinese for the inconvenience.
Followed by these comments by Eric Alterman [yep, he's a lib but he's spot on]:
pp. 28-29] Media pundit Eric Alterman characterizes the response of the US media as “extremely indulgent” towards Bush, with the notable exception of neoconservatives, who complain about “the national humilation [Bush] has brought upon the United States” and Bush’s “weakness…and fear.” Alterman says that while the incident itself is a foreign policy disaster, the manipulation of a compliant US media is brilliant. He notes that Bush was able to apologize twice to the Chinese without actually being reported in America as apologizing. Neither was the tremendous intelligence loss of the EP-3 focused upon as the potential disaster that many military and intelligence officials perceived it to be.
Jer
"pp. 28-29] Media pundit Eric
Submitted by MightyMouth on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:58am.
"pp. 28-29] Media pundit Eric Alterman characterizes the response of the US media as “extremely indulgent” towards Bush.."
No! really Jer? The media is "extremely indulgent towards Bush" ??
Well... by God, that MUST mean Bush was a total idiot and suck up to his enemies! In fact he MUST be the the Neville Chamberlain of the 21st century!
As a matter of fact the Chicoms are laughing their asses off soooo much they bought an unfinished Soviet Aircraft Carrier that is 10 years away from flight operations. Have you ever noticed that the commies are always trying to steal the west's stuff? The same stuff your idiot in chief, Ron Paul and every dumbocrat want to cut.
And I would like to know how ANYTHING we do could be a 'foreign policy disaster' with China? They own us!
How?
Submitted by Unsane on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:57am.
Um, how exactly does China, the world's third biggest country in land area and the world's biggest scapegoat by far, "own us"?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Uns, I think he means that
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:00pm.
Uns, I think he means that China owns a lot of the US Treasury debt. China is the largest foreign owner of that debt.
Foxtrot China!!!
Submitted by Unsane on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 1:22pm.
I know that's what he meant; I asked merely to confirm that.
I am so f-ing sick and g****** TIRED of that meme. So China - which according to Drudge is trimming it's holdings - has 9.5% of the debt and is the largest foreign holder of Treasuries. SO WHAT? The freaking Federal Reserve holds more debt than China!
People who whine about China holding treasuries are people who never see debt as a problem. The United States can have a $999 nonillion debt but no big deal, as long as the EVIL CHINESE don't own as much as a single $50 Series EE bond.
And people like him will whine endlessly about China but won't utter a PEEP about other countries which also hold huge amounts of Treasuries.
To me, the debt is a problem NO MATTER WHO OWNS IT. The $15 trillion debt is a massive towering monument to the incompetence of Congress. And using China as a scapegoat does NOT solve the problem.
Let's pay down the national debt, and F*** CHINA.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
While I do agree,
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 1:39pm.
It is going to be pretty tough as long as we are getting screwed, and refuse to level the playing field. A shrewd person with some financial savvy could make some hay out of this nonsense. But as with our luck, we have a economic illiterate as CiC.
Ineffective scapegoating
Submitted by Unsane on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 4:24pm.
Spoken like Donald Trump.
We need to learn to quit blaming China and quit scapegoating China. The problem is US, and WE need to figure out how to make it worthwhile to do business in this country again.
F*** CHINA.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Another leap,
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:51am.
He notes that Bush was able to apologize twice to the Chinese without actually being reported in America as apologizing.
By who's analysis Jer, some media hack? I noticed you dont bother giving us the actual quote of the apology. I noticed you dont bother giving up the sniveling part of the apology either.
He quotes Washington Post correspondent John Harris as writing, “The truth is, this new president has done things with relative impunity that would have been huge uproars if they had occurred under Clinton.
Hilarious right, also a lie. Because what is obvious to all, we currently have a leftist as CiC and nary a word is ever wrote or spoke on his many skirts of the Constitution or Congress by the leftist media. Unless of course (like you) they are in defense of his policies. In-fact when they wrote about Bush not apologizing they did it to make him appeared small, then when he allegedly does, they write about how small it made us look. The fact is Jer, all you have is the leftist musings of political hacks, witch in many ways is appropriate.
Imagine how conservatives would have reacted had Clinton insisted that detained military personnel were not actually hostages, and then cut a deal to get the people (but not the plane) home by offering two ‘very sorrys’ to the Chinese, while also saying that he had not apologized. What is being hailed as Bush’s shrewd diplomacy would have been savaged as ‘Slick Willie’ contortions.”
I guess to a lib, this is an example of unbias reporting. Never mind it has 0 examples of the offense, or any fact what so ever. Meaning, exactly what we have come to expect from libs.
If you aint carful, your going to break something
Bush's comments, his first
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 11:50pm.
Bush's comments, his first since Tuesday, marked the first time the president has personally expressed regret, but he appeared to stop short of the apology Beijing says is warranted.(emphasis mine)
Hmmm, where is the sniveling, spineless apology? CNN does not see it.
China has called for an end to the surveillance flights, which U.S. President George W. Bush has rejected.
Yeah, real spineless there.
Hours after freed U.S. crew members returned to the United States, President George W. Bush on Thursday announced a "tough" stance with China during upcoming talks.
Bush said U.S. and Chinese representatives would discuss the collision and related matters at a meeting on April 18.
"From all the evidence we've seen, the United States aircraft was operating in international air space in full accordance with all laws and regulations and did nothing to cause the accident," Bush told reporters during his remarks at the White House Rose Garden.
"I will ask our United States representative to ask the tough questions about China's recent practice of challenging United States aircraft operating legally in international air space."
Yeah he's really sniveling there.
You want to see spineless? Why it is right here.
"We've asked for it back," President Obama said of the spy plane, according to an Agence-France Press report. "We'll see how the Iranians respond."
Thanks Guys
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:22am.
I had to go-to bed, there are limits as to the amount of BS I can look at each day.
As well all know, no-one was more embarrassed by Bush then the libtards, and not once was it due to his humility! Pathetic
Well, Jer
Submitted by bkeyser on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:24pm.
I don't think you ever named a single solely-progressive initiative sold entirely at face value (that we discussed a couple weeks ago) so now I'm wondering if you can name a single major Obama/Clinton State Department success from the last 3 years...
bkeyser....are you serious?
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:36pm.
I mentioned a whole litany of progressive measures enacted into law. I don't recall your specifying a time period, and I am still not sure what you mean by "sold entirely at face value". Maybe there was a follow-up post on that thread which I overlooked.
As far as a foreign policy success, the obvious answer is the accelerated liquidation of the senior command of Al-Qaeda, including numero uno.
Jer
Accelerated liquidation, Jeringo,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:53pm.
really?
You mean the bullets resulting from Obama's orders fly faster; or is that just a snide, overall put down of Bush 43's efforts?
MD
Not at all, Matthew...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:55pm.
Again, just the facts. Why so defensive?
Jer
Sure, Jeringo, like the facts you provided just ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:14am.
just north of here about Bush 43's spineless sniveling.
I'm not in the least bit defensive - you are the lefty on a conservative site, not me. :o)
MD
Jer
Submitted by MrShy on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:18pm.
FAIL.
You really are not the the sharpest tool -- well, "tool", yeah, with regards to taking bullets for Obama.*
The act of finally catching and killing Osama you categorize as a.... "foreign policy"? Um, hunting down Osama was part of Bush's foreign policy (or initiative) and they finally got him 10 years later during Obama's tenure.
So we still wait for you to name one notable foriegn policy drafted by the Obama/Clinton regime.
(*Jer takes bullets for Obama on the issue of Osama taking bullets.)
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Well to be fair Shy
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:26pm.
He did get the Pirate also
Jer
Submitted by bkeyser on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:37pm.
OBL was taken down by the State Department?
wow Bk*
Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:52pm.
Didn't know Hillary was that good a shot. Then again, maybe she got in a lot of target practice shooting at Bill...;-)
Or when she was returning
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:54pm.
Or when she was returning fire while she was being shot at by snipers.
LOL scooby*
Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:57pm.
Good catch!
I know Caj
Submitted by bkeyser on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 11:05pm.
See, It says a lot to me that everyone's favorite Obama foreign policy achievement is actually one levied by the Defense Department, otherwise known as the NEOCON WAR MACHINE. I find it hard to believe that an actual Obama supporter would deem anything from the Pentagon and/or CIA, diplomacy.
Now, I could be wrong, but I always viewed war as the consequence of the cessation of foreign policy. Where one ends, the other begins- at both ends. For example, now that we've pulled out of Iraq, diplomacy with that country takes center stage. If we can help them move forward to a stable, democratic society then our foreign policy measures with Iraq will someday be deemed a success.
As for active foreign policy, especially in the Middle East, we can look at successes with Iran, Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Bahrain, Syria, and the Palestinians to judge the Obama/Clinton State Department. In Asia, we can look at North Korea. In North America, we can look at Mexico. And in Europe, Russia. In all these countries, we've seen the fruits of State's work.
agree Bk*
Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 11:13pm.
Agree with every point in your post. This is why Hillary makes me nervous. Now her work begins. We see the failed Policy in Egypt, Pakistan, Syria, and Libya. Can't wait to see how she screws up Iraq. Maybe if she wore a Burka?
bk...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:03am.
See, It says a lot to me that everyone's favorite Obama foreign policy achievement is actually one levied by the Defense Department, otherwise known as the NEOCON WAR MACHINE. I find it hard to believe that an actual Obama supporter would deem anything from the Pentagon and/or CIA, diplomacy.
I didn't deem it diplomacy. I deemed it a foreign policy achievement by the Obama administration.
Now, I could be wrong, but I always viewed war as the consequence of the cessation of foreign policy. Where one ends, the other begins- at both ends. For example, now that we've pulled out of Iraq, diplomacy with that country takes center stage. If we can help them move forward to a stable, democratic society then our foreign policy measures with Iraq will someday be deemed a success.
You are wrong. von Clauswitz said war is politics by other means. Not only is it not the cessation of foreign policy, it is, in fact, the very aggressive expression and enforcement of foreign policy.
As for active foreign policy, especially in the Middle East, we can look at successes with Iran, Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Bahrain, Syria, and the Palestinians to judge the Obama/Clinton State Department. In Asia, we can look at North Korea. In North America, we can look at Mexico. And in Europe, Russia. In all these countries, we've seen the fruits of State's work.
You view those as successes in the Middle East? Many of your colleagues on the right would beg to differ. The same jury that was out in the previous administration is still out. The final verdict is a long way off. North Korea was a mess during Bill Clinton's presidency. A bigger mess under Bush. And it's still a mess under Obama. Russia is reasserting itself and our leverage there has been problematic anyway. China owns us, but they still need us.
In the field of diplomacy, there haven't been any dramatic or notable successes engineered by this administration. Nor were there in the previous administration.
Jer
It appeared that bk was stating that the Obama---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:25am.
Clinton State Departments would be judged - in the future -on whether or not dealings with those Middle east countries turned out to be successful.
At least that was my interpretation.
MD
Well kiss your rear end
Submitted by bkeyser on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:34am.
You deemed it a foreign policy achievement? Well good for you. It wasn't. It was the culmination of both the intelligence and defense communities, and a direct result of the war being aged in Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama explicitly campaigned against one and for the quick end of the other, so to assign that victory solely to Obama is a gross mischaracterization. As for me being wrong on the definition of foreign policy- maybe according to some, but surely that definition wasn't applied to the previous administration which was labeled warmongers, not foreign policy mongers. Our foreign policy is directed from the White House and implemented by the State Department. Only when the diplomats in State cease their diplomacy efforts do we transition to operations directed from the Defense Department. You can call that a continuation of foreign policy -and in the strictest terms, I'll concede you're correct- but no one commonly defines war as a diplomatic effort, a position (diplomacy) usually associated with State.
As for successes of the Obama State Department, apparently you're to dense to read sarcasm. So I'll go back to my original question: Name one Obama/Clinton diplomatic success. And you can't. And you won't because from a foreign policy position, this administration is a freakin' disaster. Iran. That perfectly sums up Obama's foreign policy. The last one, however, had many successes under Condi Rice including a growing relationship with Russia -that Clinton and Obama have destroyed- and strong ties with eastern Europe -also destroyed by Oclinton. You're unwillingness to admit that, notwithstanding.
But keep pluggin' away with the nasty responses. You can always tell when you're getting your ass whipped on these pages; you get snottier and snottier as the night goes on. Here. Watch this. Maybe it'll cheer you up some. (And for anyone else who hasn't seen it- it's funny, and worth the 5 minutes.)
Geez bk...lighten up
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:51am.
I'm having a good time.
Jer
Oh..and apparently you are too dense to understand sarcasm either, if you couldn't detect it here:
You view those as successes in the Middle East? Many of your colleagues on the right would beg to differ
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/pj-gladnick/2011/12/16/60-minutes-broadcast...
Dense? Projecting much?
Submitted by ghidorah15 on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 8:11pm.
You're the unapologetic leftist on a conservative site who keeps spewing B.S. If anyone's dense here, it's you.
ghidorah25...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 8:42pm.
How about some specifics on the dense and unapologetcally leftist claim?
Thanks.
Jer
ghidorah25---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 10:37pm.
Don't use Jer's own posts to specifically point out he is an unapologetic lefty.
That method, in his eyes, does not constitute proof. :o)
MD
No way in hell, Jeringo, that came across as ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 8:20pm.
sarcasm.
You might believe it did; you might insist it did; or you may go with the "it's not my fault you didn't get it" routine - but overall, an extremely lame exhibition.
MD
Are you serious, Matthew?
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 8:39pm.
Do you honestly believe that I thought bkeyser viewed--and was listing--Egypt, Iran, Libya, the Palestinians, Syria, etc. as Obama successes? That is hilarious. Admit it, you were being sarcastic. Or just astonishingly lame.
Jer
You are a lefty, Jeringo, who, in spite of your continuing,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 10:32pm.
never-ending comments about how you hammer BOTH sides; spend the absolute majority of your time on these threads defending or supporting Obama, his administration, liberals and or Democrats.
Doesn't really matter what you actually thought about bk's comments; you are tied to and tried by your history of slavish adherence to Lib-Dim methods, moves, and policies.
Your efforts at skewing the obvious are what classify as lame.
MD
Matthew, unless anyone should misconstrue your post
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:11pm.
as a suggestion of my having claimed to hammer both sides EQUALLY, then of course that is not the case. As a left-leaning Democrat, it should come as no particular surprise that I criticize conservatives/Republicans/the political right more than I criticize their counterparts on the "left". However, as you well know, I DO criticize libs and Democrats and have done so on numerous occasions at this website--since you've been an NB member as well as long before.
AND I REALLY WISH IT WEREN'T NECESSARY TO POINT OUT THAT FACT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT EVERY TIME I HAVE MENTIONED IT YOU HAVE UNFAILINGLY RESPONDED WITH A MOCKING, WISEASS REMARK AND WILL CONTINUE THE PRACTICE ON EACH AND EVERY OCCASION IN THE FUTURE. I KNOW IT'S COMING, AND YOU ARE AS DEPENDABLE AS THE RISING OF THE SUN--QUITE IMPRESSIVE PERSISTENCE AND STAMINA, MR. DEAN.
Unfortunately there are those who for whatever reason seem to have only noticed my criticism of the right and insist that I have never posted a single negative word about libs and Dems, or Obama--especially Obama. The accusation is absurd--demonstrably so--the examples plentiful, and consequently periodic reminders necessary. And I am learning to take your inevitable carping about it--and frankly, your misrepresentations about it--in stride.
Jer
I have almost as much stamina, Jeringo, as---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:49pm.
an Obama loving lefty who posts liberal nonsense nonstop on a conservative site.
As a conservative, I will neither take your lib BS in stride, nor will I be bothered in the least by your continual complaining about my 'misrepresentations' of what you have to say; mainly because you are the only one making that charge. I have seen enough "defense of Jer" posts to know that if I were indeed misrepresenting your statements I would be so advised by others here. That I am not chastised in that regard speaks volumes about your misperception of misrepresentation.
As usual, you change the focus, making your response one targeted toward those who " seem to have noticed only my criticism of the right and insist that I have never posted a single negative word about libs and Dems, or Obama--especially Obama".
Once again you feel it mandatory to remind me with the "However, as you well know, I DO criticize libs and Democrats---".
Yep - and I have so acknowledged. Many times.
Just as I will continue to point out that your existence here as a left leaning Democrat does not provide you with immunity from criticism.
Nor does being a house lib automatically place your suppositions in the truth column.
MD
I appreciate the acknowledgement, Matthew...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:57pm.
Maybe those who have missed my criticisms of libs/Dems, and your prior acknowledgements of same, will notice it this time.
Jer
Even though these pages are loaded
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:01am.
With conservatives unhappy with Repubs and other conservatives. Jer thinks he hold the moral high ground by disagreeing with some very serious nut cases who represent and speak for his party. Well, as you have pointed, he dont, in-fact he is still way behind.
You mean nut cases like Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:11am.
Barack Obama?
List some of the conservative leaders and conservative pundits you have criticized, please.
Jer
Hmm,
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 5:44pm.
How about Rove, Bohner, Mconnell, Bush, including various items from each of the current candidates. I know their no where near as nut's or corrupt as your little group of cretins, but thats part of the reason I have nothing to do with them!
Fact is, Conservatives make sure our folks are held accountable, while you guys are excusing yours.
Did you at least
Submitted by bkeyser on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 10:42pm.
watch the video I linked?
Hey, keyser...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:24pm.
svck my b@lls!
Okay, I'm all better now.
Jer
.
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:31pm.
x
Ooooh, Boudin x'd me....
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:34pm.
I bet Boudin didn't watch the video.
Jer
I'd take you up on it
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:37pm.
If I thought you were good for it
Then you need to watch it again..and all the way to the end this
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:45pm.
time.
Jer
I did,
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:49pm.
Twice, I showed the wife as well.
Whats your problem? Other then the obvious.
I don't have a problem. Obviously you do. And it involves
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:53pm.
more than just stalking me.
Jer
Most liberals, or left leaners, it seems, receive---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:03am.
a plethora of replies to their posts.
Why is that stalking?
MD
Boudin has been following me around for three years posting
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:19am.
trollish potshots, Matthew. Nobody and I mean NOBODY even comes close to engaging in the type of behavior he continues to exhibit on virtually every day I post a comment.
Jer
Nobody and I mean nobody has called me more names then Jer
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:26am.
And nobody whines more then Jer, Boo hooo.
Well, Boudin...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:30am.
You've admitted that you get off on jerking my chain. So, it would seem as though you should be enjoying yourself instead of whining about being called out for stalking.
Jer
Why you still stalking me?
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:40am.
You pretend to be so flustered, but yet here you are making more accusations
Boudin...you've pulled the lame "but you're stalking ME"
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 1:09am.
card before. Several times. Nobody's buying it.
As I've said in the past, there is a sure-fire solution to that "problem". You know what it is. I even pleaded with you to just take a break for a couple of weeks. You just can't do it. You're hooked on it, and, frankly, I feel sorry for you. But I'm still going to call you out for it. Who knows...maybe one of these days it will sink in.
Jer
You all sound like fourteen year old girls.
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 1:18am.
Really.....every time I log on here I see one thread with 80 new comments...and it's a little teenaged girl cat fight.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 109 (and Counting)
Blonde...have you checked out the Liberallies/Cool Arrow et al
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 1:25am.
flame wars? This doesn't hold a candle to that.
But as long as Boudin continues to stalk me, I'm going to call him on it. I've tried ignoring him and that doesn't work. Nothing works. And you and I both know that if a poster were doing this to you, he or she would be outta here before the next day.
Jer
Here's a thought Jer
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:20am.
Maybe if you quit posting the most nonsense on these boards, you wouldnt get so much attention. Hope you got plenty of cheese/crackers with that whine, or else your sure gonna be sick in the morn.
Got anymore names you want to call me now Jer, try to be original, ok
Nope, I'll stick with the words which most accurately
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:24am.
describe your conduct: stalking and trolling.
You may now proceed with your incessant bellyaching about my objecting to that behavior.
Jer
Whaaa
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:28am.
Jer hurt my wittle fweelings.
*
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:27am.
*
Two comments about other nations' approval of Obama's
Submitted by 26CX on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:27pm.
handling of foreign policy:
1. They don't have to pay for those policies, and
2. They don't get to vote in the United States
Splitting hairs on #1
Submitted by Unsane on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:30pm.
Um, other countries have to pay for those policies...just in ways they might not be comfortable with.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Jer
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:30pm.
Hmmm. Poland? My husband has a former employee from Poland who is one of his best friends. According to him, they can't stand Obama in Poland. They feel as if he's deserted them, you know, the whole missile base thing.
Poland
Submitted by Unsane on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:57pm.
...and that blows because Poland is one of our best buds in Eastern Europe. Well, when we don't have a foreign policy idiot in the White House. (Having a city here in America with more Poles than any city on earth except Warsaw doesn't hurt.) Although I must say I was touched by their recent dedication of a statue of Reagan near the U.S. embassy in Warsaw.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
That cant be Unsane
Submitted by Boudin on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 11:22pm.
Jer tell us they all hate Repubs
(compared to just 21% approval by Republicans in US).
Reality
Submitted by Kleenex on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 10:09am.
Unfortunately for Obama and you, he isn't the president of Poland. That poll may make you feel good but has nothing to do with this discussion. We've known since the beginning that Obama was in love with himself while blaming everyone else. Historians certainly won't rank him where you and he thinks he should be. The only real thing he can claim is that he was the first black president His healthcare law is still looked down upon by the majority as are his economic policies. You can keep spinning like a top if you want but you just look a denier when you do so.
Kleenex, did you even bother to read the series of comments
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 11:32pm.
which preceded my response? It had EVERYTHING to do with the discussion. Do your homework before embarrassing yourself.
Jer
But Mr. Obama - you don't even like being President (# 44)
Submitted by Gary Hall on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 8:33pm.
In case Kroft and friends have been missing what many of his big supporters have been telling us that insiders are telling them - is that he's not a leader. He doesn't like engaging with the team. Not even his own side - Cabinet heads have complained that they've never even heard from the Obama WH. Congressional leaders say he is not involved - they don't hear from him . . "the phone never rings -- he never answers the phone."
Same internationally . He doesn't like hanging with foreign leaders, as in several times he's turned down invitations to meet socially a country's leader and wife. Imagine - traveling abroad to a foreign country on official business - and the leader of that country invites the US President and First Lady out to dinner (Goodness, much can be accomplished in these moments) and our President turns them down.
Jon Meacham, former liberal Newsweek editor, Pulitzer prize winner, and big supporter of Obama . . offered up some remarkable observations (shared by many), saying Obama. . :
And . . in expressing how Obama sees himself:
Even Mr. "Tingle up my leg," Chris Matthews has gone dark on Obama. Reflecting back on MSNBC's Alex Witt interviewing Chris Matthews a couple weeks back:
MATTHEWS: . . I don't have a sense that he's ever had a meeting. I hear stories that you will not believe. Not a single phone call since the last election.
WITT: Tell me one.
MATTHEWS: They don't call. He never calls. That's the, that’s the message. Members of Congress, I keep asking, “When did you hear from him last?”
WITT: Silence.
MATTHEWS: He doesn't like their company.
WITT: You've just…
MATTHEWS: That's a problem, by the way.
Indeed it is - but, not for Obama (or the National MSM which isn't exactly anxious to share that with the voters)
Goodness - In 3 whole years, 2 of which were completely controlled by his own party, and he can't lead them into passing one single federal budget?
No - Mr. president - we need a leader. Someone . . anyone.
Number 4, my arse. Looking be be exactly what your number identifies you as - Number 44
(;~/ gary
Corrupt
Submitted by jpalm32 on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:34pm.
NBCPhiladelphia reports Montgomery County,PA Commissioner Jim Matthews, the brother of “Hardball” host Chris Matthews, has been arrested on charges of perjury. The arrest is a result of an 18-month investigation into campaign contributions and expenses reported by Matthews.
The alleged “lie” is that Matthews denied having any business dealings with “Certified Abstract,” a title company that was to do business with the county.
Not a surprise, Gary
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:56am.
After The Wons get back from their Hawaiian Vacay....say, about January 3rd or so....set a little reminder in your Outlook to check Obama's official daily calendar.
You can google "Obama Daily Schedule"...which will take you to the official WH site.
He typically has a daily brief (earliest I've seen so far is at 9:45 a.m., then maybe one "official" appointment, then he jets off to give a fundraising speech somewhere.
Once or twice a week he meets with administration officials. It looks like he works, "officially", about 8 hours a week (excluding travel, which of course, is all for fundraising).
LAZIEST. PRESIDENT. EVER.
Don't believe me? Check it out for yourself.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 109 (and Counting)
J . . He's not in HI - he's in Asia, remember?
Submitted by Gary Hall on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 1:56am.
indeed, his daily schedule should be put in a book - for all to see.
But wait, shouldn't a book actually have meaningful pages between the covers?
(;~> gary
Maybe Obama meant he was #4
Submitted by Free Stinker on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 8:37pm.
Maybe Obama meant he was #4 of the living ex and current presidents, putting himself above Carter.
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LIKE
Submitted by MrShy on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 8:44pm.
:)
But Free, even Carter was definitely born here, did not sit in the pews of a hate-filled congregation/church for 20-plus years, did not run with hippie, radical domestic terrorists, is almost certainly not of the muslim faith... and the "Carter was not" list goes on (as bad as he was :p)
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Shy
Submitted by Free Stinker on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 8:54pm.
I'm describing Obamas opinion, not reality. ;-)
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I see that Shy just can't quite shake loose
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:15pm.
from the Kenyan muslim thing--and the birtherism canard that supposedly only the MSM and Dems are pushing.
Jer
does that bother you Jer?
Submitted by Free Stinker on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:22pm.
does that bother you Jer?
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Does what bother me, Free?
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:23am.
That Shy is still spouting birther nonsense? Not particularly. I think it's cute.
Jer
Go ahead Jer, keep ignoring
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:34am.
Go ahead Jer, keep ignoring the other things Shy had put in the post. Keep zeroing in on those gnats.
Jer
Submitted by MrShy on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:31pm.
Springs into immediate action, rushing to Obama's defense... like a good liberal.
- He's very likely a Muslim from all the evidence, his two names, both his fathers, and a lot of his upbringing.
- He ran with a whole host of radicals, terrorists and corrupt figures -- which we all know (including you, right Jer?)
- He sat in regularly for over 20 years in an ugly, radical church that was hardly Christian by all accounts -- another thing we all know.
- I have no idea where he was born, and I was certainly not convinced by the fake his handlers whipped up last year only after being pressured into a corner to finally show us something.
Nope, I don't "shake loose" from the many scary realities about this guy. Why would I?
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Shy, you know all that does
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:42pm.
Shy, you know all that does not matter to him. But the liberal lapdog he is will go barking at anyone who dares to question almost any and all who criticize the libs.
I know, Scuba...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:52pm.
rejecting birtherism fables is such disgusting sycophancy. I am so ashamed.
Have you and Shy considered spending more time at World Nut Daily? You might find a more agreeable audience to entertain your delusions.
Jer
Attention, conservatives on conservative site called out for---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:00pm.
being delusional when speaking of the liberal messiah, Obama.
Charge made by lefty who hangs out in area.
Disregard the charge.
MD
There you go again Jer,
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:11pm.
There you go again Jer, zeroing on a single item to the exclusion of all else. How those elephants you've been swallowing taste?
Care to respond to the first three items on Shy's post?
How about some of these things missing from the world of Obama?
Columbia College records, Columbia thesis — “Soviet Nuclear Disarmament”, Harvard College records, Illinois Bar Records, Baptism certificate, Medical records, Law practice client list, University of Chicago scholarly articles, Illinois State Senate records, Illinois State Senate schedule.
Go on, take a crack at it.
Scoob & Free
Submitted by MrShy on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:14am.
The rest of the night will be full of those "bug sounds"...
- shy on wax
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Shy---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:29am.
You referring to those Australian insects - Crike-its?
MD
Cricket, stickit...matthew
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:32am.
I can only deal with so much nonsense at a time. I need a secretary.
Jer
Wel, day-um, Jer, get a secretary---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 1:01am.
then.
And --- it ain't nonsense you're dealing with - it is getting your arguments shredded, while trying to defend the indefensible ass Obama, that is pissing you off.
You have several strikes against you in that regard before you even step up to the plate; but you soldier blindly on in the service of the purple-lipped one.
Though no one forces you to stand by your 'man', a certain Marine is right; you do get snottier when on the receiving end of comments that sting you. What you refuse to recognize or acknowledge is that the comments are justly meted out because you set yourself up for them.
MD
Scubadude, I hope that Jer
Submitted by Liberallies on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:55am.
Scubadude,
I hope that Jer does not do what many of my Left wing work collegues and friends of mine have done to me when I ask them where all of the documents of Obama that you listed can be found by the public. They will claim with a straight face that all one needs to do is look it up in the interent, that it is all there for the public to scrutanize
Of course, I have taken more than a few to taks and asked them to look these up on the web and all of a sudden, they are too busy to continue the political conversation.
The fact is that Obama has lawyers working 24 hours a day, 365 days a year to make sure that none of the documents you listed ever hit the light of day.
But shoot, Obama is the most transparent President in American history.
How utterly ridiculous.
Scoob
Submitted by Free Stinker on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:03pm.
Do you think Jer will defend ObamAA+ over Fast &Furious and Solyndra too ?
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Some how the analogy of a
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:14pm.
Some how the analogy of a bear and some woods comes to mind on that one Free. And of course it will be just as smelly. :-)
LOL
Submitted by Free Stinker on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:57pm.
LOL
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No, Free..unlike you ideological automatons..
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:43am.
whose minds are about as flexible as a slab of concrete, I will criticize any person or any policy at any time when and where it is warranted. Both F&F and Solyndra are damaging to the administration. Solyndra is more of a political embarrassment than a serious scandal. Fast and Furious was a boneheaded operation that was poorly conceived and even more poorly executed. Let the chips fall where they may. If they fall on Holder's head, so be it.
Jer
What? Solyndra is merely a
Submitted by Liberallies on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:49am.
What? Solyndra is merely a political embarrassement? Do you know how may hundreds of millions were wasted on Solyndra and such companies? this is corruption, not merely a political headache.
This scandal involves the corrupt approval of government loans to Obama donors and friends. The approval of loans to companies that no bank would have ever approved for a regular and average American. And it was OUR tax money!
And Solyndra, from what is coming out, is just the tip of a very deep iceberg!
this is a very serious scandal, very serious.
Jer, I think like most here, it is quite stunning to see how you can't see yourself for who you are, an idelogical automaton who believes that criticizing one or two things from your beloved Left makes you bipartisan. We all know you'll deny it, but Jer, you need to do some soul searching and self-examination. You are far from not being a Left wing idealogue.
Is it okay, Liberallies...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:54am.
if I search my soul tomorrow? I really don't have the time right now.
Jer
Jer, Ok, you got me there. I
Submitted by Liberallies on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:59am.
Jer,
Ok, you got me there. I laughed out loud when I read your sentence.
Yes, by all means wait 'till tomorrow, it is quite late. 12am CST here in Chicago.
No soul searching tonight, but I am getting ready to eat some soul food and watch some manly movies. Wife and kids asleep and I can't shut my eyes.
Later, LL...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 1:08am.
I'm calling it a night, too. I'll check back in sometime tomorrow after a couple of stiff drinks.
Jer
And Jer runs away yet again
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 1:29am.
And Jer runs away yet again without responding to the other items posted in Shy's post and to the additional ones I put in my post.
He did it once before when he said Tom Friedman was a centrist and I showed proof that he was not.
Scoob---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 1:34am.
I thought Jeringo couldn't drink - per doctor's orders - ?
MD
MD, maybe it is a couple of
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 1:40am.
MD, maybe it is a couple of shots of Maalox he is inbibing. :-) Though I wonder why he isn't downing Tylenol being he has been hit over the head with the clue bat quite a bit lately.
Clue bats, Scoob, don't affect---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 1:53am.
liberal moonbats in love with Obama.
Ya got ta whack 'em wit' a moonbat bat.
MD
Solyndra was the natural result of a political philosophy...
Submitted by jawebster1 on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 10:46am.
that has driven our country into near or virtual bankruptcy.
We are where we are today, because the American people made the grave mistake of electing this man Obama president and giving him both houses, including a veto proof Senate.
No Republican administration would have ever come up with the looney tax payer funded idea of financing such a company as Solyndra in order to cram unworkable and impractible so-called alternative energy down our unsuspecting throats.
(Newt with a thousand ideas emerging by the truck load from his fertile brain may have thought of doing such a stupid thing and because of that and other things, he will not be the one we Republicans nominate to replace Obama.)
IMHO, of course.
"Political embarrassment", ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 1:10am.
"boneheaded operation' --- regarding a couple of the Obama Administration's major screw-ups; but Free (and any other conservative, I presume) is categorized as an 'ideological automaton'.
Lord, you are a funny man, Jeringo.
MD
No, Matthew...not ANY conservative,
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 3:20pm.
and, frankly, I think it was a bit unfair of me to put Free in that category. So I hereby remove his name from this as yet unpublished list and concurrent therewith am pleased to announce the selection of you, Matthew Dean, as NB's most prominent representative of said automaton phenomenon. Congratulations. In the spirit of Free's infamous "scorecard", the voting tally was...
Matthew Dean: 999
All remaining candidates: 1
:-)
Jer
Well Jeringo, at least I am a conservative on a---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 10:44pm.
conservative site as opposed to, say, a lefty on a conservative site.
Having said that, seeing the many differences of opinion between conservatives here - I can more easily understand why the majority of your silly lib input is pooh-poohed. :o)
MD
Shy---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:42pm.
Good thing ol' Jer reminds us constantly about his excoriation of Lib-Dims as part of his "I'm a fair lefty" mantra, otherwise, his blinding speed when reacting to anything negative about his messiah would render him totally invisible to us conservatives.
MD
MD
Submitted by MrShy on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:12am.
Yep. I list a bunch of things that separate Obama from Carter, and out of nowhere he pounces on the birth issue and kick's up a new storm at his house of worship (and addiction), NewsBusters.
Jer's being slapped around like a newborn again, I see. He just got thumped, above, on his claim of Bush being a sniveling apologizer with China.
- shy on vinyl
Join Mr. Shy and The 1* Percent
Usually, Shy ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:37am.
the liberal lash-out in defense of Obama is an automatic knee-jerk thing and can neither be slowed down nor delayed so as to determine ahead of time just how goofy it will sound.
MD
Brick Wall
Submitted by Kleenex on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 10:22am.
Lefties will never admit anything that might make Obama look bad. They already have too much invested in him so they would rather lie, spin or deflect the topic than face reality. You have a better chance at a good conversation with a door knob than with a lefty.
Of course, Kleenex,
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 4:20pm.
the fact that I have admitted plenty which makes Obama look bad pretty much destroys your argument. Sorry.
Jer
And how long have you held the title ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 10:54pm.
"Official Lefty Denouncer Of Any Move Of Obama's That Makes Him Look Bad" ?
I think the MSM's silence on all things done in error by Obama pretty much outweighs your rather insignificant voice in the wilderness.
MD
If so, he is still wrong. As bad as Carter was and he was...
Submitted by jawebster1 on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 10:09am.
very, very, very bad, he is still a thousand times better than Obama!
This man as president is a living nightmare. He is so bad, that even the Liberals will not defend him after he is gone in January 2013.
I hope I made my feelings clear.
Maybe Obama meant he was #4
Submitted by Free Stinker on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 8:50pm.
Maybe Obama meant he was #4 of current world leaders, right behind Chavez, Arminijihad and Kim Jung Mentally-Ill
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I don't know about you
Submitted by djwolf12 on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:11pm.
but Obama is NUMBER TWO in my book.
Laughable Quote Removed
Submitted by NVRAT on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 9:32pm.
I guess that 60 minutes thought that it was just to much to print such a laughable statement. They knew that they would be the Laughing stock of the air waves to let out.
Great grist for a presidential debate
Submitted by needle on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 11:10pm.
If there is a presidential debate hosted next year by an Obama pimp from CBS, I personally would just love it, if the Republican nominee – whoever he or she is – says something like: “I have a question for the American audience tonight and that is: How many of you know that Obama claimed in an interview with CBS that his legislative and foreign policy accomplishments are only exceeded those of Johnson, F.D.R., and Lincoln?”
Besides being a great conversation starter, it will put CBS back on its heels having to explain why they tried to hide this gem from the nation.
- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.
Good idea needle. There are
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 11:14pm.
Good idea needle. There are a lot of these little gems that the GOP candidate should use in any debate with President Downgrade.
Obama , Obama I doubt
Submitted by jkwtrading on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:02pm.
Obama , Obama I doubt seriously Lincoln had time for Foreign policy. LBJ...yeesh he spent all his time fighting Vietnam..and making sure the young men of America died for his stupidity.
I was waiting for you to catch this
Submitted by Granny Jan and ... on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 10:03pm.
This is my video (RobtKraft on You Tube) I caught on right away that it was edited out of the broadcast and knew exactly why. I read about the clip on the Washington Examiner a few days ago via Weasel Zippers. I put a link to this Newsbuster's story under the video on You Tube.
60 Minutes is still
Submitted by RR GOP on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 11:15pm.
60 Minutes is still on?
Why?
Interesting that for such a group (Libtards) that lionize youth, everybody on that show is pretty ancient.
Half of them probably think they're fighting the good fight against Barry Goldwater.
"Under Capitalism, man exploits man. Under Communism it's just the opposite."
"All that Communism needs to make it successful is for someone to feed and clothe it."
What is terrifying....
Submitted by jdripper on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 11:15pm.
is the realization that he actually believes this.
Jack
Obama = A legend in his own mind!
Submitted by gruyere cheese on Fri, 12/16/2011 - 11:30pm.
Obama's perception of himself gives new meaning to the term "narcissistic". If this dude had it his way, he would have his face chiseled on Mount Rushmore next to the "real great presidents", a statue of himself standing next to Abe Lincoln and his face plastered all over 500 dollar bills by now. Good grief!
Remember! It's not "all about him!"
Submitted by OxyCon on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 12:35am.
That's what he keeps saying...but we know better, don't we?
But what do you expect from an abandoned kid? Poor thing must have had some really grandiose daydreams when he was a kid...and I'd personally like to thank the American people for helping Obama fulfill his childhood dreams of being the biggest big shot in the whole world!
Here's a childhood story of "Barry" already scheming about how he can boss people around if he were the President:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/09/world/asia/09indo.html?pagewanted=2&_r=1
I've got five more years of
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 1:11am.
I've got five more years of 'stuff' to do.............well, I figured that one out. Getting 'stuffed' is Aussie slang for............well, you know....if someone tells you to get 'stuffed', I think you know what it means. So I'm thinkin' (still workin' on my Barry-speak) that he's gonna keep 'stuffin' us for as long as he can - and he needs another term to finish us off.
Obama says Clinton is beneath him
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 8:38am.
Anyone get Bill Clinton's take on this??
Eye of the Beholder
Submitted by IrateNate on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 10:31am.
I'm not certain that placing Clinton beneath him would be any more preferable than placing Barney Frank behind him.
Not Fourth Best President
Submitted by VideoSavant on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 9:45am.
Given the passage of enough time, Obama may eventually become the fourth biggest douchebag to hold the presidency.
But for now, he is #1.
I said this elsewhere and
Submitted by Darks Shadow Show on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 1:08pm.
I said this elsewhere and I'll say it again here:
"Only three Presidents outrank me." Try FORTY THREE!
My Blog
Yes, the claim is laughable. Yes, Obama is talking out of his
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 3:49pm.
rear end.
But, just to set the record straight: He did NOT claim he was the 4th best President. There is more to being regarded as a good president or great president than legislative and foreign policy accomplishments. Of course even in those categories his assertion is absurd.
Sorry to rain on the parade. [It was just a light drizzle anyway.]
Jer
There he goes again, giving
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 5:39pm.
There he goes again, giving cover for President Downgrade and libturds in general. So Jer, are you calling PJ Gladnick a liar?
Are these folks who either linked the story from NB or wrote about it themselves liars too?
Start your day with a
laughfacepalm; it seems 60 Minutes didn't show all of its interview with the SCOAMF last weekend. Here's the headline at NewsBusters: 60 Minutes Broadcast Edits Out Laughable Obama Claim as 4th Best President.Mr. Humble: Obama says he's the 4th best President ever
Obama: The 4th best president in history?
60 Minutes edits out Obama’s claim he’s 4th best POTUS
Heck, just peruse all the links here.
If that's an example of my "covering"
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 7:05pm.
it's not even sufficient to cover Obama's big toe. You DO realize when I say the "claim is laughable" and the "assertion is absurd", I am referring to the claims Obama actually made.
Jer
No Scuba, I'm not calling PJ Gladnick a liar...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 6:57pm.
and I trust you are not calling me one either, are you? I think he is putting a different construction on Obama's assertions than I am. But let's start with the basics. In the video there are interspersed printed excerpts or statements which appear to be replications of Obama's specific utterances [or maybe you can suggest a more appropriate characterization.]
In any event, among them is the explicit representation purportedly made by Obama, to wit: I am the fourth best President in American History. Can you show me where Obama actually makes that specific claim?
Thanks.
Jer
Johnson?
Submitted by Dollface on Sat, 12/17/2011 - 6:05pm.
Was that Andrew or Lyndon?
This Guy is the Epitome of Arrogance
Submitted by West Covina on Sun, 12/18/2011 - 12:13am.
The way Obama holds his chin in the air, one day, someone is going to break that glass jaw of his.