Leftist Rocker John Mellencamp: First Amendment More of a 'Collective' Thing

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John Mellencamp, photo via BigHollywood.Breitbart.com | NewsBusters.orgYou know, liberals should be celebrating. Their man, The Won, is in the White House. They have control of both the House and the Senate, and legislation such as cap and trade and nationalized health care may well become reality - European socialism without having to leave the comfort of home. The Brave New World is on the way. Rejoice in mediocrity for all!

So why are they so grumpy? I suppose it’s because the idea that anyone might stray from the reservation is anathema to them, and this little thing in our Constitution called the First Amendment kind of gets in the way of collective happiness and singing Kumbaya around the campfire.

John “Cougar” Mellencamp is the latest to notice that not everyone is part of the collective, and he’s mighty peeved, making this observation about free speech in general and bloggers in particular:

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“I don’t think people fought and gave their lives so that some guy can sit in his bedroom and be mean. I don’t think that’s what freedom of speech is,” he continued. “Freedom of speech is really about assembly — for us to collectively have an idea. We want to get our point of view out so we can assemble and I can appoint you to be the spokesman. That’s freedom of speech — to be able to collectively speak for a sector of people. But somehow it’s turned into ‘I can be an a****** whenever I feel like, say whatever I like, be disrespectful to people and not be courteous.’ It’s not good for our society. Not being courteous is not really freedom of speech. …

Geez, send this guy back to civics class.

The First Amendment pretty much means what it says when it comes to political speech: as long as it’s not libel or slander, you can say whatever you want. If you come across as a mean jerk, others can point it out, thus exercising their free speech rights. It’s not hard to figure out, except for liberal Statists who don’t really believe in the First Amendment.

That said, I agree with Mellencamp - to a point. I believe discourse in this society has sunk to a new low, and honest debate is often replaced by name calling and angry diatribes not meant to enlighten the other side to your point of view, but to shut debate down by shutting the other side up. However, while I don’t think our Founders ever envisioned the Internet with its pluses (i.e. spreading information at lightning speed around the world) and its minuses (i.e. the anonymity factor that emboldens some to say things they wouldn’t say to one’s face), I doubt they would agree with Mellencamp’s assessment of free speech. We “collectively” have an idea and appoint a spokesman? Well what about those of us who aren’t part of the collective, John? If we don’t subscribe to the current fashion of groupthink, do we not have recourse? Are we not allowed to speak out?

For some, blogging is their only way of making their voices heard. Not everyone has million dollar recording contracts that suddenly make their political opinions worth seeking out by reporters bedazzled by someone who plays a guitar and sings.

And who, pray-tell, decides what kind of speech is “nice” speech and what is “hate” speech? Perhaps Obama will appoint a Speech Czar to add to his ever-growing collection of direct reports who get to circumvent Congress, in a power grab noted even by die-hard Democrat Sen. Robert Byrd.

This transformation in thinking on Mellencamp’s part is nothing short of miraculous. He must be regretting this little outburst at a John Kerry fundraiser during the 2004 presidential campaign, right?

Other celebs also competed to bash Bush. Singer John Mellencamp sang a specially written song that called the president “just another cheap thug” and ridiculed him as the “Texas bambino.”

Perhaps that can be attributed to “artistic expression,” an excuse entertainers and artists often use when some find their content objectionable. The unenlightened bottom feeders “just don’t get it.”

Well, we get it, John. We understand that now that your man (well, your second choice) is in the Oval Office, and suddenly it’s unseemly to make fun of him or - even worse - disagree with him. I hear it on talk radio shows all the time: liberals call in and tell the host to stop criticizing Obama, that we must all get behind the president and support him.

Remember Hillary in 2003?

I am sick and tired of people who call you unpatriotic if you debate this administration’s policies. We are Americans and have the right to participate and debate any administration.

Times have changed, people. We must heed the collective. We must appoint a spokesman. I wonder who John has in mind?

But don’t listen to me. John Mellencamp probably thinks I’m an a****** too.

Originally published July 10 at Andrew Breitbart's Big Hollywood blog.


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#!%^!#^!  hypocrites! 

#!%^!#^!  hypocrites!  Don't mess with their free speech, but don't dare exercise your own.

Thank God I never bough any of this punks records.  He's not that good anyway.

Cougar!

Why don't you shut your hole, Mr. Cougar Mellencamp!  Like anything you say really matters at all.

Hey Mellencamp!  Thomas

Hey Mellencamp!  Thomas Paine, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin...

Do those names ring a bell?

They were pretty much the first bloggers....

Guys sitting in their bedrooms being mean?

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows.  -Bart Simpson

 

cougar

WHAT, EXACTLY IF HIS MIND IS CAPABLE OF FORMING A COHERENT THOUGHT,DOESCOUGAR CALL THE 8 YEARS OF VITRIOL AIMED AGAINST PRESIDENT BUSH? NICE? So now the first amendment is reduced to the collective, it, according to noted Constitutional scholar Cougar, is no longer an individual right. If that's so, why wasn't his music subject to a "collective" decision before it was produced and made him wealthy far beyond his intellectual capability? Well, Cougar, how about that?

Oh great...now I suppose O

Oh great...now I suppose O will name Cougar as the Czar of the 1st Amendment next.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

F*** John Mellenhead...

...and the two people who brought him into this world.

-Dave

"Obama's health care 'reform' plan is to blow up the building in order to fix a leak in the roof." - Herman Cain

Typical Ripoff Liberal

John Mellencamp, aka John Cougar, aka John Cougar Mellencamp, whatever. Not exactly critically acclaimed for his body of work. Music critics have accused him of riding the coattails of another America-hater, Bruce Springsteen, to form his "sounds like I love America but I loathe what it stands for" brand of music in the 80's. Then of course, basking in the adulation of adoring but misled fans, he fancies himself an "artiste", working in various media. You know the paintings, usually done by chimps on whom they are performing LSD experimentation..What a has-been d-bag.

To bad he lost the

To bad he lost the opportunity to use the name 'cougar', as we all know what the new meaning of that is.

I wonder if he goes on vacation with Springsteen. 

Mellencamp and Springsteen

"I wonder if he goes on vacation with Springsteen."

I doubt that even Springsteen would want yappy little John "Chihuahua" Mellencamp tagging along behind him...

Ditto

Besides Jack & Diane and Little Pink Houses, what in the hell has he ever done? Hell, Milli Vanilli had two hits, too. BFD. 

I love how these "celebrities" always have an opinion on something. I wonder how he'd feel if -- since BHO can fire CEOs and cap their salaries -- The Messiah decided aging, bitter, uneducated, irrelevant musicians needed to earn only $250K a year?

Of course, that might be a lot to The Cougs now. 

These celebs are so uneducated, misguided, kool-aid drinking, sanctimonious, out of touch, thrill up the leg liberals it's really nothing but amusing. Who in the hell would take something John Cougar would say seriously? My cat could meow something more intelligent. 

 

"If al-Qaeda wants to demolish the America we know and love, they
better hurry, because Obama is beating them to it." -- Rush Limbaugh III

So John thinks ...

So John thinks that I'm not entitled to freedom of speech. Well, John, here's a news flash for you. Me and my fellow veterans are more entitled to freedom of speech than you are, since we put our butts on the line and you didn't.

Being able to speak our piece about anything we want is our right. A right that you and every other liberal have no control over, much as you would like to control it. Here are a couple of things that you can go practice at: 1. packing sand and 2. frying ice; and if you really want to get real good with your dancing techniques, go play in a mine field.

I got something that you could do as a nice free gesture for our Military men and women in Iraq and Afghanistan; go over and give them free concerts, if you got the guts. (Somehow, I don't think you will.)

Remember folks, Freedom isn't Free. It was bought with the blood and sacrifice of the men and women who are serving and who have served in the U.S. Armed Forces.

For those who fought for it, Freedom has a flavor that the protected will never know.

Also remember folks, that the way to SUPPORT THE TROOPS is to support their mission. Anyone who says that they support the troops but don't support their mission is lying about supporting the troops. And if you want to know, yes I do have a dog in the fight, he is a United States Marine.

 

SentryDan... Boy do I

SentryDan...

Boy do I ever Second that!

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

If Mellencamp has a brain,

If Mellencamp has a brain, he must keep it in a pickel jar on his dresser.

Save a SeAL, club a liberal!!

Brain?

The brain is in that jar marked AB NORMAL (thanks to Mel Brooks & Young Frankenstein).

We in the collective

Dear Mr. John Mellencamp Cougar Mellencamp,

We in the collective have collectively concluded that your comments do not reflect the opinion of the collective. Since this is the way you yourself  believe, then it is necessary for you to cease talking now. You can continue to breathe, just don't talk. Should you violate your own opinion, more punitive measures to shut you up may occur.

if johnnie's looking for

if johnnie's looking for first amendment abuse "a*******'s" its the sole property of the "collective" kneepadded bootlicking "news" media - olberdick, jackass cafferty, ed shitz, carpet munch maddow, etc - along with bitch maher and pals on the so called "comedy channel" - or lettermen,  SNL, MTV, any major university professors, thousands of hs teachers, "lying bastards film productions" based out of traiterwood as well as "prime-time pondscum television productions" of new paris, ny - 90% of the noise out there stinks of severe liberal halitosis, dickhead and NONE OF IT FROM ANYONE'S BEDROOM OR BASEMENT...

you're idiocy to be grievously pitied...

Palin/Prejean 2012

Mellenkampf

If this a-hole ever does put out another album (which is not yet another compilation), I demand the right to have two of MY songs on it.

And yes, I am a published musician. 

  We have to keep in mind

  We have to keep in mind that the election of obama really is liberals 'messiah' moment in history.  This is what the leftists have been waiting for since at least the sixties.  All of their lifelong beliefs are riding on the success of obama.  If obama fails, liberalism as a path to a glorious utopian future also fails.  That's why this is no ordinary presidency.  For the ultra-liberals this is a battle for survival.  They cannot let obama fail.

MidAmerica

MidAmerica is right. That's why we can't let him succeed.

he doesn't need our help.

he's doing a great job of failing all on his own.

on the campaign trail he promised to not raise taxes of any kind for anyone.  he broke that promise only 15 days into his term when he signed a 156% cigarette tax into law.  there was a promise not to hire lobbyists - that was broken.  there was a promise of openness, to put bills on line before they are signed into law - that was broken.  i could go on and on, but why bother.

 

swing hard in case you hit it.

Unpatriotic if you debate that administration - who said it?

This one always gets under my skin:

Remember Hillary in 2003?

I am sick and tired of people who call you unpatriotic if you debate this administration’s policies. We are Americans and have the right to participate and debate any administration.

I remember, time and time again, hearing so many versions of that line - usually this one: "That #$#?&^* Bush (or Cheney - completely interchangeable) stated that you are unpatriotic if you don't support the war, etc."  Neither actually ever said that, but it didn't stop the presses.

So, I don't know - did someone of note in the Bush administration every say what Hillary (and so many others) kept claiming? Did some conservative pundit actually say that? OK. Probably somebody said something like that in the heat of the political battle. What I do remember, is that the press kept leveling the charge at the administration (and at others) and the Bush administration kept repeating the same thing - 'they did not make such a statement - and they do not support such talk.'

Yet it lives on. It has a life of it's own, because that is what the MSM and leaders of the Democrt party want the people to believe. It's how they promote hate and distrust and division.

In the meantime, it is those like Mellencamp, who are acting unpatriotic.

(;~/ gary

Agenda Gary...all

Agenda Gary...all agenda...and they will never stop.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

"Mellencamp's only vice is

"Mellencamp's only vice is his well-known cigarette habit. He used to smoke four packs a day until a 1994 heart attack forced him to cut down to about a pack a day, and he's frequently spoken out about his disdain for drugs."

A true genius.

Poor Johnny Cougar

Obsolescence is tight quarters for a colossal ego.

I Know Who Should Be In Charge Of The 1st Amendment

Vladimir Ilyich Lenin! The Cougar should have him in mind for his group spokesperson, and then look for a modern day version. They're all over the place. The White House, Congress. Lenin did a great job for the Bolsheviks. Got a little bloody, but hey, gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet. Right?

John Mellencamp is a liberal idiot who has no idea what he's talking about. He's a sheltered, spoiled, disinformed tool - which is just what the Democratic Party needs to be in power.

Mellencamp is dumb as an

Mellencamp is dumb as an R-O-C-K in the USA.

Ken... Yep! Make that a

Ken...

Yep!

Make that a box of rocks while we're at it.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Ken, That was just...

Ken,

That was just... painful.

Damn

That eight grade education will show up every time, especially if you didn't pay attention in class. What a world class dumbbutt! Just when you think he can not possibly outdo the last stupid thing he said he comes along and surprises you with something even more stupid. I am sure he thinks he has really said something profound and intelligent. Hey, John, you are STOOOOPID. Be quiet, maybe no one will notice.

Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way!

Hey, John, you are

Hey, John, you are STOOOOPID. Be quiet, maybe no one will notice.

LOL doug...too late to turn back now...we have noticed.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

BT

Yeah, I know. It is like JM is on a Stoopiiid Telethon. Just when you have forgotten the lil fella is even out there, he comes out with some really stupid comment or theory like this one to remind all of the world what a complete boob he is. I hope he reads this site. He really needs to just shut up. Many of the Entertainment crowd are just like him. You get one idea about a person then when you hear them talk without a script, you say "How the hell does this person even dress or feed themselves?"

Lead, follow or get the hell out of the way!

I'm not holding my breath

Since Mellencamp now thinks freedom of speech is only for courteous people, I am now waiting for him to criticize Keith Olbermann and Bill Maher.

(crickets)

 

About 4'11"

Without his elevators, John is about 4'11".

BW222

Almost forgot...

I am also waiting for Mellencamp to blast the cretins attacking Sarah Palin and her family.

(more crickets)

This is "Assembly"

John Lennon and Niel Young, two of my favorite artists of all time despite the fact I disagree with their politics.  But I never, ever, understood why any of this guy's work became hits.  Different strokes I guess.

 

No kidding, Al

I never could stand his crap.  Whenever one of his "songs" came on the radio, I couldn't change the station fast enough.

Mellencamp is RIGHT !!!!

"But somehow it’s turned into ‘I can be an a****** whenever I feel like, say whatever I like, be disrespectful to people and not be courteous.’"

Yes, THIS I very much agree with...... but:

A) This is a problem that's rooted mostly -- as we all know -- in the counter-culture and down-with-the-man -advocating leftist party.

B) Some semblance of manners, common courtesy, not wielding the F-bomb with impunity, etc., has nothing to do with free speech, and everything to do with our social environment... which, again, leads back to which party is dumbing things down a lot more, promoting and further enabling bad behavior, and discouraging real independent thought.

Liberals are hypocrites and projectors on such a level, it's truly mind-boggling. 

 

You're the next contestant on...
THE MESSIAH IS... LEFT !!

 

The question is...

"Freedom of speech is really about assembly — for us to collectively
have an idea. We want to get our point of view out so we can assemble
and I can appoint you to be the spokesman. That’s freedom of speech —
to be able to collectively speak for a sector of people.
"

If that's true, John, then who appointed YOU as our collective Constitutional interpreter?  Was there some town meeting somewhere that I wasn't aware of, one where you were selected via popular vote, or did you appoint yourself as our spokesman? Answer the question, John.  Who appointed YOU as our spokesman?

The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution

Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court

What a Shame

As a musician, I love to play Cougar's tunes (Tom Petty's, too) because they are so very ''rock''.  It a shame people like this Cat-Guy can't just shut-up and sing.

Liberals = The Borg

Why do liberals remind me so much of The Borg from the Startrek series?  Like the Borg, liberals have their own little liberal collective and all free citizens must be assimilated into their mindless Borg-like existance!

Instead of a cube shaped spaceship, liberals plug into the MSM and other freedom hating outlets to get their instructions. 

Beam me up Scotty.....It's time to fight the collective!!

 

Scandiman, I am

Scandiman,

I am Mellencamp of Borg. Resistance is futile. Your life, as it has been, is over.

OK

..... NOT!   :-)

 

Hillary

Interesting that Hillary is brought up in a discussion concerning the First Amendment. My wife and I talk about this every time we see her face. We believe her constant hounding about all republicans and conservertives began the great divide in this nation. So many of her complaints were unfounded and untrue ( vast right wing conspiracy, for example). She implied that at least half of this nation were her and Bill's enemies. The split grew from there. The  "liberal", biased media, of course, is mostly to blame for it now. They keep it up and its not going to stop any time soon. It's sad.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

a 'collective' thing?

Well, John Mellencougar has never been a part of my collective, so maybe I should challenge his abuse of our First Amendment rights.  Fair's fair, right?

Sheesh.  He has a right to make an ass of himself any time he wants; I just wish he wasn't so comfortable showing everyone how little he's thought through the implications of what he says.

(There's one guy who should have been a drummer, relegated to the back corner of the stage, and never given a mike into which he could speak...)

Can I Change My Name?

Two hoosiers - first David Shuster - and now John Mellencamp - are giving all of us hoosiers a bad name.


HoosierEm, Born and

HoosierEm,

Born and raised in Kokomo, now live in Florida. :-)

Idiot

In the middle 80's, he gave a free concert in Ft. Wayne for those of us that filled sandbags. I, for one, didn't go, even for free. I'm embarrassed that he's a Hoosier. I bet he has nightmares every night cause Indiana went for Bush both terms.

John Mellencamp for Cover Mouth With Tape Czar

Until Obama makes this pipsqueak shut its piehole I will continue to bash where I think bashing is fit.

These lefties make me sick. I am sick of their double standards. Obama is destroying this country and we are to sit back and say nothing?

anti-american

He doesn't believe in the rights of an INDIVIDUAL to speak out.  Wow.  So which group was he nominated to speak for?  Shouldn't he shut the hell up then??

I got an idea...

Battle of the bands!

John "Looser" Mellencamp against... yup, you guessed it... 

Ted Nugent!!!

I know who's gonna win that one!

(if you've never heard Ted talking about freedom, you're missing one of the best and brightest speak... if he debated Obama, Obama would find himself cowering under his podium praying to Rev Wright for a new teleprompter)

retro... Right you

retro...

Right you are....Nugent would Kill 'em and Grill 'em in either battle.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Quickly people....

Process this quickly, and move on.... he states twice " I don't think..." .  That is all that needs to be said, and all that needs to be realized.

I'd love to know how he

I'd love to know how he feels about all those people saying mean things about Sarah Palin.  Was that wrong too?

The wisdom of that high

The wisdom of that high school dropout, Johnny Cougar is on display. Remember, he is stupid, uneducated and his opinion means NOTHIN'. This A-Hole also says the 2nd Amendment is not for individuals, except him and his bodyguard. Just like Rosie O'Donnel, he thinks he is more important, more worthy of protection that the 'LITTLE PEOPLE". Therefore, his "people", of course, are armed, but you MUST remember, HE'S SPECIAL.  Spoiled, intellectually and morally dishonest little bastard.

The sad thing is that he

The sad thing is that he obviously, with all his heart, believes everything he said.

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).

People in stone houses

People in stone houses shouldn't throw glass.

Or wait...how does that saying go again?

Oh, the many ways to say that someone is hypocritical.

How can an artist come out and say that free speech is a collective right?  Saying so is egotistical and seems to assume that this same artist believes he fully speaks for anyone who enjoys his art (oddly enough, lyrics are secondary for me when it comes to music, so I often disagree with the viewpoints of musicians I like).  Speech doesn't need to be protected if it's already been funneled through by groupthink.  Why would we have an amendment to protect the (individual's) right of expression if it is only to be granted to a figurehead?  How are these groups supposed to form, choose a leader, then divulge their opinions if an individual has no right to voice it to others?  It shows a certain disconnect with reality.  

As an individual, I would like to express how much I like Mellencamp's music, but think he is an ignorant twit.  It's too bad the Constitution doesn't guarantee my right to express my appreciation.  Oh, wait.  I seem to have lied, aside from the belief that he is an ignorant twit.

MellenCrap

Like we really listen to idiots like him.

“I don’t think people

“I don’t think people fought and gave their lives so that some guy can sit in his bedroom and be mean. I don’t think that’s what freedom of speech is.”

Aw, crap.  Now I've gotta move my computer out into the living room. 

Power is the peoples' to give, but it is also theirs to exercise.

TBB... ROFLMAO! Doubling

TBB...

ROFLMAO!

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

I thought dissent was the

I thought dissent was the highest form of Patriotism... Did that change on 01/20/09?? I guess I didn't get that memo, email, post, blog, tweet....

Jackass and Diane

The key phrase in Mellonhead's exceptionally childish tantrum is:

"I don't think..."

Yeah, ya got that right ya collectivist Nazi slash Stalinist jerk.

Sure, free speech is a gang of people gathering together collectively to agree with whatever Mellonhead says.

On the one hand who gives a flying eff what a spectacularly whiney doofus like this mental midget says.

On the other, there's a cold wind of thought-control growing here. And it's being led by the usual suspects in every totalitarian movement that ever flexed its people crushing evil intent.

THE ELITES.

This is what the US constitution was crafted to stymie. An elite gang of counter-revolutionaries, forcing its collective will on the people.

But, as Mark Levin points out regularly, all the firewalls in the constitution have now been breached by leftists. It's been a long process but we are now here at the place the marxians have wet-dreamed over since the Woodrow Wilson administration.

That's why useful idiots like Mellonhead have to be CONFRONTED, or at least commented upon.

How many liberals does it take to screw up a country?
Not as many as you'd think.

One word for

One word for Mellencamp....idiot! I am ashamed to say he is a fellow Hoosier.

Note to Cougar...

...Mellencamp, whatever your name is these days. Choosing to act like an a$$hole and make any comments we'd like is EXACTLY the purpose of the first amendment. It gives us the right to say what we, as an individual, feel about things. Isn't it ironic that this buffoon is spouting about collectivist speech, all while he speaks his mind as an individual. Leftist hypocrisy at its core.

 

President Obama is nothing more than a lying empty suit; a Hollywood
style special effects smoke and mirrors show that has shown itself to
be a total fraud.
 

WAKE UP AMERICA! SAVE OUR CONSTITUTION! 

Hoosiers

When talking about embarassing Hoosiers, don't forget David Letterman and Michael Jackson.

drug-hater my a**

Saw Mellencamp at a Farm Aid concert. He came on late and only did one song, that one sitting down except for a short break when he tried to dance but looked kinda unsteady on his feet...Put that together with the 4-pack-a-day former habit (now 1-pack), and I betcha that "Mellencamp disdains drugs" stuff is just PR.

Oh year -- do you think he got that "collective right" terminology because of all the debate (now settled) over the 2nd amendment being a possible "collective right"? Hey, maybe now they'll expand it -- right to a speedy trial if it'a gang-related crime, not done by an individual; right to search and seizure if they do the whole town and not just one house...Yeah, there ya go!