Remember the artificial panic pervading the CBS "Early Show" just a little over a year ago that, for the first time in history, the North Pole may not be covered with ice sometime during the summer of 2008? Well, not only did it not happen but evidence now shows that Arctic ice has been thickening substantially this year.
And who is making that "heretical" claim? Why Andrew Revkin, the New York Times environment writer. On the heels of his recent "heresy" of quoting noted climatologist Mojib Latif's finding that the world will probably be in for a cooling trend for the next decade or two, Revkin's latest report will probably not sit well with the global warming alarmists:
The National Snow and Ice Data Center released its summary of summer sea-ice conditions in the Arctic on Tuesday, noting a substantial expansion of the extent of “second-year ice” — floes thick enough to have persisted through two summers of melting. The result could be a reprieve, at least for a while, from the recent stretch of remarkable summer meltdowns.
Story Continues Below Ad ↓According to the center, second-year ice this summer made up 32 percent of the total ice cover on the Arctic Ocean, compared with 21 percent in 2007 and 9 percent in 2008. The percentage of ice that was many years old, forming thick pancaked expanses, was at its lowest since satellite observations began 30 years ago. But that could change next year as the second-year ice adds mass through the long winter freeze.
This arctic ice trend which runs counter to the predictions by the global warming alarmists has caused Revkin to toss out a lifeline for help in this "puzzling" situation:
The shifting conditions raise a question. None of the sea-ice specialists I’ve interviewed since 2000 on Arctic trends ever predicted a straight-line path to an open-water Arctic, but quite a few have stressed the longstanding idea that as white ice retreats, solar energy that would have been reflected back into space is absorbed by the dark sea, with that heat then melting existing ice and shortening the winter frozen season. I’ve just sent out a query to a batch of experts, asking if the potential ice recovery now raises questions about the importance of that light-dark shift in albedo compared to other dynamics in the Arctic Ocean. I’ll update this post as responses come in.
Hmmm... So as the arctic ice expands, less solar energy would be absorbed into the smaller areas of open sea and more would be reflected back into space which means...cooling. We now await the rationalizations of the global warming alarmists.
Despite the cooling trend evidence reported on by Revkin, he still can't take that final step of letting go of the sacred global warming dogma...at least in public:
The conditions also bolster the views of ice and climate specialists who have stressed that the many factors shaping Arctic conditions year by year, from winds and atmospheric pressure to highly variable ocean currents and soot, still dominate the influence of heat trapped by building greenhouse gases. So the “ death spiral of the Arctic ice system” could well be more like a series of descending loop the loops. Whether the Arctic’s 21st-century journey ends with a tipping-point style crash or a whimper remains uncertain, but — even with the current recovery — it’s hard to find a researcher probing Arctic ice trends who does not foresee open-water summers, and all that comes with them, in coming decades, as long as greenhouse gases keep accumulating in the atmosphere.
Of course, if Andrew Revkin ever did seriously question the global warming dogma more forcefully, that could constitute employment endangerment at the Times. Hey, economic times are tough and your humble correspondent understands the necessity of avoiding the dreaded pink slip. For the time being you can continue to wink coded mixed messages at us, Andrew. We will know where you are coming from despite your public avowals of belief in the global warming faith.
In the meantime, let us at least give Revkin credit for confirming the Antarctic Ice Melt at Lowest Levels in Satellite Era report that has been ignored by most of the rest of the MSM. ...Wink! Wink!
—P.J. Gladnick is a freelance writer and creator of the DUmmie FUnnies blog.



















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We have to do
October 7, 2009 - 10:29 ET by NewsbusterbrownWe have to do something!!!!!
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“There are no easy answers' but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
It's not just global warming anymore...
October 7, 2009 - 10:47 ET by c5thenIt's "Climate Change". Any percieved change from a static condition is the problem and must be combated by taking money from the wealthy nations and giving it to poorer nations after the environmentalists have taken their cut. That is their solution in a nut shell.
Throw 'da bums out!!!
no incumbent re-elected, with very few exceptions!
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In the billions of years of earth history,
October 7, 2009 - 12:19 ET by SouthernRootsWhen has the climate ever been so constant with such a small window of variance as the global-warmistas demand humans regulate today?
I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them. - J.B. Books (John Wayne)
my favorite global warming line from South Park
October 7, 2009 - 11:12 ET by jon_torlin"Global warming will take place two days before the day after tomorrow. Oh my god, that's today!"
Ok, not quite an exact quote but close enough.
-Jon
jon~~
October 7, 2009 - 11:23 ET by BKeyserAh South Park- new mid-season begins TONIGHT!
And here's the clip on Global Warming.
hadn't been keeping up
October 7, 2009 - 12:06 ET by jon_torlinI haven't watched much of it, been watching Ghost Hunters and Destination Truth(actually really interesting, love watching them have the $h!t scared out of them) which comes on during the South Park time.
I'll catch it on their website later.
Some people believe that the glaciers breaking off are due to global warming, guess those idiots never realized that glaciers break off because they are calving due to gravity, after all, they do grow/expand across the land. So much for science.
-Jon
BTW, what happened to all the MONSTER HURRICANES ???
October 7, 2009 - 11:24 ET by krendlerWhat happened to all the MONSTER HURRICANES that Gore and his Consensus told us we should get used to (running around making that claim loudly after Katrina).
Seems Al and the media have sheepishly sort of slinked away from that prediction. Whooops.
Also nice to now see Obama claiming that the economic recovery is dependent on getting his health care reform passed. He said the same thing about Green Jobs: A key to an economic recovery.
Listen To AL
October 7, 2009 - 13:57 ET by JDWHurricane Henri was tracked today at over 400 miles offshore moving about 14MPH. There were more than 900 previous 'scare articles'. Obviously the news media has stopped paying attention to it.
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DAILY WAVE
I didn't know ACORN was getting a lot of money
Does NSIDC have some kind of time machine?
October 7, 2009 - 11:28 ET by Dave in TexasI don't even trust their "first year ice", "second year ice" estimates (I'm sure they're estimates). This figure from their report shows first year, second year, and older ice at the end of the last three melt seasons. I can clearly see ice at the end of the 2008 melt season that was older ice that has somehow turned into second year ice at the end of the 2009 melt season. I also see some specks of first year ice that turned into older ice (completely skipping the second year ice phase) from 2008 to 2009.
Maybe there is a valid explanation, but too often, I find when you dig into how the data is gathered to make these charts, graphs, models, or whatever, you find some really questionable assumptions and algorithms.
because of global warming
October 7, 2009 - 11:31 ET by SouthJersey1953They have said it time and time again: Cooler temperatures/thicker ice/heavier snowfall in the mountians....is ALL caused by global warming. I think one of the 'so-called' experts even predicted that the next ice age would be the result of global warming.
I don't care if they changed the phrase to climate change, many of them still say these changes are due to global warming
"Maybe if we keep our heads buried in the sand, this will blow over" - The Congressional Republicans
Idaho has earliest snow on record
October 7, 2009 - 11:32 ET by katainkentbrrrrr... this global warming has me reaching for a blanket.
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Very Good
October 7, 2009 - 14:02 ET by JDWSki resorts are opening in CA and CO, Heavenly opened today. Schools are closing. Road crews are out. Power is down. Stores are closing early... And it's just the first week of October.
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I didn't know ACORN was getting a lot of money
Here, let me help you Andrew Revkin
October 7, 2009 - 12:14 ET by Gary HallHere, let me help you Andrew Revkin..
No it doesn't. It's simply that while warming and melting is going on, it's obvious that it could have an ongoing ever increasing effect - until the ice is gone. Then suddenly, it's a dark-light shift. Combine that with a bit of cold, and... wa la!
What if suddenly one season, the little warming trend ended; the big high pressure system that created the wind friction that aided the melting, went away; what if the cyclic warmer ocean current from the west, ceased, and it got a bit colder again? Look out for climate change.
Andrew - the melting process takes a long time, but the re-freeze can occur almost over night, in climate terms. Then, guess what? Suddenly there is no light-dark shift. It's just all ice again.
(;~/ gary
BUSTED: trapped by building greenhouse gases
October 7, 2009 - 12:59 ET by wizardjrThere is not and never has been any evidence of the Mid Troposhperic Hot Spot. It is a requisite of the Greenhouse Effect as pimped by the warmies.
Essentially it is supposed to indicate a roof or ceiling that is trapping the heat. It's not there. It's never been there. It's not going to be there. It's a fiction. Busted.
When I hear about the ice in the Arctic melting from some
October 7, 2009 - 14:41 ET by Army Bratdip...I ask em'...What caused the ice to vanish back in the 20s and 30s? And I get...shrugs...puzzled looks...crickets chirping.
There are no crickets in Alaska, so I'm trying to figure that one out as well....
islam is a lie and Truth is killing it.
Army Brat.. there was
October 7, 2009 - 18:28 ET by Gary Hall.. there was one, but:
(;~> gary
~This is where Free would say..
October 7, 2009 - 19:02 ET by choselife3x.. there was one, but:
It kept Sarah Palin awake one night.
Kossacks hate me. And yes, it does feel good.
I never cease to be amazed
October 7, 2009 - 17:53 ET by mamabearI never cease to be amazed by people's ability to read what they want into data.
Read the actual NSIDC press release here, and look at the sea ice extent charts. The only reason 2009 looks good is because 2007 looked so much worse than any other year. Sea ice extent and thickness is still way down from the 1981 - 2000 average.
We can certainly hope that this two year ice will have a chance to settle in, but we'll have a long way to go before we can say the Artic isn't melting.
Considering the records
October 7, 2009 - 18:46 ET by danboConsidering the records only go back what 30 years; and they're based in the last cool period. It'll be hard to prove it's melting.
As you said you can read what you want into it.
But then. Warmers have a lot more problems right now than arctic ice.
HAHAHAHAHA. HEHEHE. I didn’t even know about it. Um. So, you’ve got me at a loss. I don’t know. (Charles Gibson of the dead media.)
Why do you think a colder
October 7, 2009 - 18:55 ET by general companyPlanet is better then a warm one? We have a lot of folks to feed these days. If I were you, I would start thinking about that?
All that ice melted, and Fla is still above water,,,,,hmmm someones math must be wrong?
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I think it's hilarious that
October 7, 2009 - 19:41 ET by mamabearI think it's hilarious that the same people who (rightfully) make fun of anyone who points to a hot day or a hurricane or fire as evidence of global warming, are perfectly happy to use just as meaningless evidence when it supports their fervent desire to believe that global warming is a hoax.
And the Arctic is sea ice, genius, it doesn't affect sea levels.
3 years is 10% of your
October 7, 2009 - 19:56 ET by danbo3 years is 10% of your entire database.
But then we're not the ones saying the sky is falling based on 30 years data during a known warm period following a known cool period..
The next news. It's warmer than the plistocene. There's less ice in the midwest.
Just look at the tree rings. But just the one's we show you. Not the ones that don't count.
HAHAHAHAHA. HEHEHE. I didn’t even know about it. Um. So, you’ve got me at a loss. I don’t know. (Charles Gibson of the dead media.)
"It will without doubt have
October 7, 2009 - 20:02 ET by danbo"It will without doubt have come to your Lordship's knowledge that a considerable change of climate, inexplicable at present to us, must have taken place in the Circumpolar Regions, by which the severity of the cold that has for centuries past enclosed the seas in the high northern latitudes in an impenetrable barrier of ice has been during the last two years, greatly abated.
(This) affords ample proof that new sources of warmth have been opened and give us leave to hope that the Arctic Seas may at this time be more accessible than they have been for centuries past, and that discoveries may now be made in them not only interesting to the advancement of science but also to the future intercourse of mankind and the commerce of distant nations."
President of the Royal Society, London, to the Admiralty, 20th November, 1817 [13]
HAHAHAHAHA. HEHEHE. I didn’t even know about it. Um. So, you’ve got me at a loss. I don’t know. (Charles Gibson of the dead media.)
Every Generation Offers Up Their Own Apocalyptic Scenarios
October 7, 2009 - 20:09 ET by dbo...the Arctic pack ice is thinning and that the ocean at the North Pole may become an open sea within a decade or two.
-New York Times-1969
I find it hilarious
October 8, 2009 - 09:36 ET by general companyToo, but please remind me why we want the planet cold? As if there is anything we could do about it.
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"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
I'm not an expert, so this
October 8, 2009 - 19:03 ET by mamabearI'm not an expert, so this is just my impression of why we care.
Fundamentally because our entire modern society has been built in the blink of an eye, geologically, and is "adapted" to a very narrow range of climatic conditions that we've experienced during our short time on earth. No one disputes that the rest of the planet has gone through hotter (and colder) periods, WE just haven't gone through hotter periods than the ones we're predicting based on the slope of the change. We don't know what it will do to agriculture, to domestic animals, to sea level, to air travel, to mosquitos, and so on and so forth.
So we model what we think will happen, and most of the news is bad. Plants will be more productive, that's kind of the extent of the good news as far as I've heard!
→ mamabear
October 8, 2009 - 19:12 ET by Cool ArrowThe greatest Country on the face of the Earth came in to being during the last Ice Age which ended about 160 years ago.
If we don't know what to expect, maybe it's because we refuse to learn from history.
Your great-great-great grandparents went through it. Was it all those Indian campfires that caused it? Too many pooting buffalo?
cool -->
October 8, 2009 - 19:14 ET by MrShyThey had big ad campaigns back then with the slogan:
Go Green-ER
:)
→ Green and greener-er
October 8, 2009 - 19:19 ET by Cool ArrowHow is it that we dance around the fact that climate changes have occurred in modern history with absolutely no input from humans.
Crighton's book "Jurassic Park" contains a great solliloquy about our belief that we have that much effect on the planet.
cool -->
October 8, 2009 - 19:31 ET by MrShyCrighton's book "Jurassic Park" contains a great solliloquy about our belief that we have that much effect on the planet.
"They're soooo vain.... (Libs) probably think this earth's all about them.... "
→ It's true
October 8, 2009 - 19:37 ET by Cool ArrowThey walk on their god every day, begging forgiveness from Mother Gaia for having bruised her.
Pathetic.
During the Little Ice Age,
October 8, 2009 - 20:29 ET by mamabearDuring the Little Ice Age, you mean? Given that we have evidence that during the major ice ages glacial sheets reached the equator, you are simply proving my point that the temperature fluctuations that humans have dealt with are tiny compared to what can happen. I don't think we'd have a particularly pleasant time in a real ice age, nor do I think we'll enjoy any kind of comparable warming.
mb
October 8, 2009 - 20:30 ET by MrShyWe'll survive as a species, I'm pretty sure. So calm down and enjoy your life and let us enjoy ours.
→ What can happen?
October 8, 2009 - 20:39 ET by Cool ArrowThe Earth can open up and swallow New York.
We can get struck by a comet.
What we'd experience from another Ice Age is a Southern migration. Geez! do you think "Greenland" got its name from its green snow?
The Earth has always been in a state of flux, climatically. Sure, there would be hardships, but it would also necessarily mean once uninhabitable places would start getting sufficient precipitation as to make them livable.
I am sorry you believe so wholeheartedly in the doom and gloom stories told by scientists whose paychecks are filled with government grants that go exclusively to the "Joe Btfsplk" wing of academia.
Truth? Texas could stand to average a degree cooler. Maybe we'd be growing more wheat and corn instead of cotton. So what?
I have tremendous faith in
October 8, 2009 - 21:11 ET by mamabearI have tremendous faith in human ingenuity to get us out of problems. My only real worry is that we won't acknowledge the problem early enough to give human ingenuity a chance to do anything. So if there is gloom and doom, it is only in the frustration of trying to get scientists to explain science to non-scientists when the science is saying something the non-scientists don't want to hear.
Migration would be no big deal if the world was all one giant happy country where everyone got along. It's not.
→ Bob Dylan
October 8, 2009 - 21:19 ET by Cool ArrowYou don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.
Trust me. If it gets too cold up North, You'll probably notice it. Even slugs can sense a hostile environment. What makes you think you are less capable than a vavosa to respond to stimulae?
If you believe your effort and treasure should be poured into an imagined ecological apocolypse, go for it. But it's extremely elitist to demand I march to the beat of your imagined cadence.
Fixing it once it's happened
October 8, 2009 - 21:37 ET by mamabearFixing it once it's happened is a lot harder than stopping it.
Bullsh*t.
October 8, 2009 - 21:45 ET by NL207Bullsh*t.
The vaunted consensus you hear so much about
October 13, 2009 - 14:11 ET by Army Bratconsists of 600 scientists.
Here are 31,000 that say NO to AGW.
http://www.aim.org/b...
Now...who do you believe? Reid Bryson the father of modern climatology says that Global Warming is a lot of 'hooey". he watched Gores pathetic film and said it made him "want to throw up."
Again...are you going to believe those that stand to profit from the lie or the man that invented the science?
islam is a lie and Truth is killing it.
Ugh, I hate this kind of
October 14, 2009 - 07:55 ET by mamabearUgh, I hate this kind of crap.
1) You can't have a list of 31,000 scientists that includes 9,000 PhDs. Sorry, but that's a list of 9,000 scientists.
2) This is the famous Oregon Petition, the one that was circulated along with a fake PNAS article, and whose text specifically asked people to weigh in on "catastrophic warming and disruption" and then has subsequently been used to claim that the signatories all believe that global warming has no scientific support at all.
3) Scientific American did an analysis of the relevance of the petition, asking signatories to review their participation. Even back in 2001 a significant proportion didn't remember the petition or didn't agree with it any longer. They concluded that in truth the petition includes a core of about 200 climate researchers who support the statement. Not shabby, but nothing earth-shattering either. I'd love to know how many of those still support it 9 years later.
Mamabear
October 8, 2009 - 21:20 ET by FeynmanFanI think the greater danger is when scientists abandon their responsibilities to support a political end rather than be guided by the scientific process and facts.
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
→ No kidding Feynman
October 8, 2009 - 21:26 ET by Cool ArrowBut what the heck? Liberals are more than willing to sell our children to Chinese taskmasters too.
A little thing likeGlobal Cooling (whatever happened to warming) is no big deal.
Or worst yet
October 8, 2009 - 21:31 ET by general companySuggest they know something they know they dont. All the science on the planet isnt going to cool this place down. Or Mamabear, do you also believe if man/scientist were around, we could of saved those Dinosaurs?
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"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Save the world from the real catastrophe
October 8, 2009 - 21:38 ET by FeynmanFanIf mankind is going to save the world from a real catastrophe, we are going to have to find a way to stop continental drift.
Just look at what happened when the India subcontinent slammed into Asia. We can't let something like that happen again or we're all doomed!
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
Who knows? A little
October 8, 2009 - 21:39 ET by mamabearWho knows? A little captive breeding, AI, a good behaviorally sound reintroduction program... the real problem is always habitat loss, but I hear there are some great islands off the coast of South America :)
→ Enjoy the Malvenas
October 9, 2009 - 17:36 ET by Cool ArrowOr the Falklands, depending on your political bent.
I think the greater danger
October 8, 2009 - 21:36 ET by mamabearI think the greater danger is when scientists abandon their
responsibilities to support a political end rather than be guided by
the scientific process and facts.
I think a much bigger problem right now is people who knowingly exploit the conservative language of science in order to make it sound like there is more doubt than there is.
Like Gore
October 8, 2009 - 21:44 ET by general companyIs the science settled in your mind? Can you answer all the questions?
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"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Mamabear
October 8, 2009 - 21:49 ET by FeynmanFanWhat do you mean by "exploit the conservative language of science"
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
I mean that scientists are
October 9, 2009 - 17:28 ET by mamabearI mean that scientists are very wary about sounding certain about anything, even when they are. I posted something relatively lengthy about this when someone wrote a piece here making fun of climate scientists for using "weasel words."
→ mamabear
October 9, 2009 - 17:35 ET by Cool ArrowThat's because these scientists you refer to have equated "hypothesis" and "settled science"
More than you care to mention are backing off of their initial claim. Seems that herd mentality is suffering from a drunken binge hangover.
It was "Cooling". It was "Warming". It was "Climate Change". Now we're back to "Cooling"
The only bet these hand-raisers have yet to cover is "Global Climate Stasis".
For a perfect example of that
October 13, 2009 - 14:14 ET by Army BratSearch the phrase, "better dead than alive and riotously reproducing."
The use of DDT was withheld in parts of Africa as a form of population control. Pure evil...
When science mixes with politics people suffer at the very least and quite often die as a result.
islam is a lie and Truth is killing it.
"than the ones we're
October 8, 2009 - 20:54 ET by NL207"than the ones we're predicting based on the slope of the change. We don't know what it will do to agriculture, to domestic animals, to sea level, to air travel, to mosquitos, and so on and so forth."
What are these predictions based upon? The 'slope of the change' you say? Nonsense. They are the product of artificial models that cannot even regress all the known datasets correctly.
So, if we can't predict the effects of this 'predicted change' on agriculture sea levels , wetc. etc., then why are Al Gore and his merry band of science hacks going about making all these apocalyptic predictions about the aforementioned things?
And...what is your belief?
October 13, 2009 - 14:03 ET by Army BratBelief does not enter in to it. One either examines the data and makes rational judgments based upon same, or arrives at a judgment and proceeds to interpret the data to reflect their belief.
Since the planet has been cooling for the last 12 years and those climatologists who do not have their heads up the Goracles outlet for climate information think AGW is crap, I don't believe it is wrong to have a little fun once in a while with the weather. I know that weather is local...
Facts/Truth do not require fervent desire. Beliefs do.
A hoax is a hoax and AGW defines that word.
islam is a lie and Truth is killing it.
Even if the Arctic Ice
October 7, 2009 - 19:05 ET by ahusseris melting. What does it mean? Is there a disaster in this? and if true is it a man made phenomena or a natural one? How much of our economy and money will we throw out trying to fix either something unfixable or not broken and how do we know if our efforts will be successful? All this global warming is just political kneejerkism perpetuated by kneejerkoffs.
"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'