(UPDATE: The Boston Globe has now posted what it calls a redacted revised docket although it is described as a "police report" at the left side link on its site. And redacted it certainly is since it has redacted out almost the entire narrative section of the original report. To read the full highly revealing narrative, check out the original police report.)
A little tip for anyone who gets stopped by a police officer for a possible traffic violation. Be polite. Very polite. Even if you think you were wrongly stopped, do not under any circumstances start yelling at the police officer. Follow this advice and your chances of being given a traffic ticket, instead of just a warning, go way down. The same applies for any encounter with a police officer because the surest way to get yourself arrested is to act arrogantly and aggressively when questioned. Whatever you do, do not act like the arrestee in the Henry Louis Gates police report.
That Cambridge, MA police report presents such a damning picture of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates when he was arrested that an embarrassed Boston Globe felt it had to scrub it from its website after initially posting the report. The Globe published an article about the Gates arrest written by Tracy Jan which does refer to the police report but, unfortunately, you can no longer read the full report on the Boston Globe site since it has been removed by that newspaper. Here are a couple of Boston Globe excerpts that do refer to the deleted police report:
He was booked for disorderly conduct after “exhibiting loud and tumultuous behavior,” according to a police report. Gates accused the investigating officer of being a racist and told him he had "no idea who he was messing with,'' the report said.
...The police report said Gates was arrested after he yelled at the investigating officer repeatedly inside the residence then followed the officer outside, where Gates continued to upbraid him. "It was at that time that I informed Professor Gates that he was under arrest,'' the officer wrote in the report.
The lack of the full police report, which was scrubbed by the Globe, was the subject of this comment from a skeptical reader:
Be nice if the Globe actually printed the arrest report. A bit of a different story, I bet. I bet my life on it.
Well, the Globe did print the arrest report...and then removed it. And you're right, it was a bit of a different story as a Damian Thompson blog in the U.K. Telegraph noted:
The top American black scholar Henry Louis Gates has been arrested after accusing police officers of “racism” when they demanded that he prove his identity in his own home near Harvard. Sounds shocking, doesn’t it?
The Boston Globe has an account of this complicated incident, which seems to have begun when the professor locked himself out of his house. It portrays Gates as the injured party, handcuffed and taken into custody for (Gates implies) the crime of being a black man.
Hmm. The self-important Gates, who runs Harvard’s African-American research centre, has never been slow to allege racism. And the fact that he now faces a charge of disorderly conduct is presented by his supporters as proof of police discrimination.
I won’t comment, except to say: read the police report, which the Globe supplies here in pdf format. [Not any longer, it seems.] It’s absolutely fascinating. It doesn’t just depict Gates playing the race card; it describes him flinging a whole pack of 52 race cards at the officers. And it doesn’t surprise me one bit.
However, if you click to the Boston Globe link to read the police report, you get a "Page Not Found" message which was noted in an update to the blog:
Update: the police report describing Gates’s hysterical behaviour has apparently disappeared from the Boston Globe site. Strange, don’t you think?
Strange, perhaps, but not really surprising since, despite the assertion yesterday by President Barack Obama that the Cambridge police department acted "stupidly," one might think differently after reading the full police report. Here are a few excerpts from the report by arresting officer, James Crowley:
On Thursday July 16, 2009, Henry Gates, Jr. - -, of Ware Street, Cambridge, MA) was placed under arrest at Ware Street, after being observed exhibiting loud and tumultuous behavior, in a public place, directed at a uniformed police officer who was present investigating a report of a crime in progress. These actions on the behalf of Gates served no legitimate purpose and caused citizens passing by this location to stop and take notice while appearing surprised and alarmed.
...When I arrived at Ware Street I radioed ECC and asked that they have the caller meet me at the front door to this residence. I was told that the caller was already outside. As I was getting this information, I climbed the porch stairs toward the front door. As [reached the door, a female voice called out to me. I looked in the direction of the voice and observed a white female, later identified {} who was standing on the sidewalk in front of the residence, held a wireless telephone in her hand arid told me that it was she who called. She went on to tell me that she observed what appeared to be two black males with backpacks on the porch of• Ware Street. She told me that her suspicions were aroused when she observed one of the men wedging his shoulder into the door as if he was trying to force entry. Since I was the only police officer on location and had my back to the front door as I spoke with her, I asked that she wait for other responding officers while I investigated further.
As I turned and faced the door, I could see an older black male standing in the foyer of {} Ware Street. I made this observation through the glass paned front door. As I stood in plain view of this man, later identified as Gates, I asked if he would step out onto the porch and speak with me. He replied “no I will not”. He then demanded to know who I was. I told him that I was “Sgt. Crowley from the Cambridge Police” and that I was “investigating a report of a break in progress” at the residence. While I was making this statement, Gates opened the front door and exclaimed “why, because I’m a black man in America?”. I then asked Gates if there was anyone else in the residence. While yelling, he told me that it was none of my business and accused me of being a racist police officer. I assured Gates that I was responding to a citizen’s call to the Cambridge Police and that the caller was outside as we spoke. Gates seemed to ignore me and picked up a cordless telephone and dialed an unknown telephone number. As he did so, I radioed on channel I that I was off in the residence with someone who appeared to be a resident but very uncooperative. I then overheard Gates asking the person on the other end of his telephone call to “get the chief’ and “whats the chiefs name?’. Gates was telling the person on the other end of the call that he was dealing with a racist police officer in his home. Gates then turned to me and told me that I had no idea who I was “messing” with and that I had not heard the last of it. While I was led to believe that Gates was lawfully in the residence, I was quite surprised and confused with the behavior he exhibited toward me. I asked Gates to provide me with photo identification so that I could verify that he resided at Ware Street and so that I could radio my findings to ECC. Gates initially refused, demanding that I show him identification but then did supply me with a Harvard University identification card. Upon learning that Gates was affiliated with Harvard, I radioed and requested the presence of the Harvard University Police.
With the Harvard University identification in hand, I radioed my findings to ECC on channel two and prepared to leave. Gates again asked for my name which I began to provide. Gates began to yell over my spoken words by accusing me of being a racist police officer and leveling threats that he wasn’t someone to mess with. At some point during this exchange, I became aware that Off. Carlos Figueroa was standing behind me. When Gates asked a third time for my name, I explained to him that I had provided it at his request two separate times. Gates continued to yell at me. I told Gates that I was leaving his residence and that if he had any other questions regarding the matter, I would speak with him outside of the residence.
As I began walking through the foyer toward the front door, I could hear Gates agai,n demanding my name. I again told Gates that I would speak with him outside. My reason for wanting to leave the residence was that Gates was yelling very loud and the acoustics of the kitchen and foyer were making it difficult for me to transmit pertinent information to ECC or other responding units. His reply was “ya, I’ll speak with your mama outside”. When I left the residence, I noted that there were several Cambridge and Harvard University police officers assembled on the sidewalk in front of the residence. Additionally, the caller, md at least seven unidentified passers-by were looking in the direction of Gates, who had followed me outside of the residence.
As I descended the stairs to the sidewalk, Gates continued to yell at me, accusing me of racial bias and continued to tell me that I had not heard the last of him. Due to the tumultuous manner Gates had exhibited in his residence as well as his continued tumultuous behavior outside the residence, in view of the public, I warned Gates that he was becoming disorderly. Gates ignored my warning and continued to yell, which drew the attention of both the police officers and citizens, who appeared surprised and alarmed by Gates’s outburst. For a second time I warned Gates to calm down while I withdrew my department issued handcuffs from their carrying case. Gates again ignored my warning and continued to yell at me. It was at this time that I informed Gates that he was under arrest. I then stepped up the stairs, onto the porch and attempted to place handcuffs on Gates. Gates initially resisted my attempt to handcuff him, yelling that he was “disabled” and would fall without his cane. After the handcuffs were property applied, Gates complained that they were too tight. I ordered Off. Ivey, who was among the responding officers, to handcuff Gates with his arms in front of him for his comfort while I secured a cane for Gates from within the residence. I then asked Gates if he would like an officer to take possession of his house key and secure his front door, which he left wide open. Gates told me that the door was un securable due to a previous break attempt at the residence. Shortly thereafter, a Harvard University maintenance person arrived on scene and appeared familiar with Gates. I asked Gates if he was comfortable with this Harvard University maintenance person securing his residence. He told me that he was.
Not a very pretty picture of the highly abusive Gates was painted here. And this is probably why the Boston Globe felt it had to remove the police report from its website.
—P.J. Gladnick is a freelance writer and creator of the DUmmie FUnnies blog.
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Now he's a victim
July 23, 2009 - 06:49 ET by Blogger Guy00001Looks like he got what he wanted. Now he's officially a victim and can go around saying how racist the police are.
Race card already out
July 23, 2009 - 07:00 ET by obageegeeLooks like he had the race card out as soon as the police arrived, they fell into a trap.
Small into Big
July 23, 2009 - 09:15 ET by allanfA great lesson on how to make turn a five minute conversation into an arrest. All Gates had to do was say he lived there, present his id and thank the officer for his concern.
We all get angry, but Gates presumed the man was a racist and an imbroglio ensued. It would have been better for the officer to have just walked away after he confirmed Gate's identity. No doubt the officer was not pleased to find out he was a racist.
I cannot believe they
July 23, 2009 - 10:42 ET by kgI cannot believe they dropped the charges. What does that say tom people about giving the police any respect at all? Any police officer or soldier is a fool to ever vote for a liberal.
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This is what all whites can
July 23, 2009 - 12:54 ET by DontFeedTheTrollsThis is what all whites can expect under the Obama administration, go about your normal business and you will be attacked as racist with the government and the MSM taking sides against you. This police officer should DEMAND an apology from the racist Gates.
From now forward, all whites are racist, just ask Bill Clinton, whom Obama called a racist.
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I wonder when the cops will
July 23, 2009 - 18:52 ET by mattmI wonder when the cops will get fed up enough to stop going about their normal business and just let racemongers get robbed, beaten and murdered by their fellow Blacks.
I guess that would be racist, too....
huh?
July 23, 2009 - 07:02 ET by VT Con ManThe POTUS/TOTUS slamming the police (without even knowing what happened) because he is a "black friend"?
Wow, maybe he was arrested because he was seen jimmying a door and resisting, not because he is black.
The bitter, racist POTUS continues to show his real colors, no pun intended.
POTUS/TOTUS
July 23, 2009 - 07:05 ET by VT Con Manhttp://www.foxnews.c...
Good one, VT
July 23, 2009 - 07:10 ET by BlondeWow....again he doesn't know, and admits he doesn't know, what he's talking about! Too much.
But we should just trust him. Check.
I hope he fails, too.
And if he did know, that
July 23, 2009 - 09:12 ET by motherbeltAnd if he did know, that wouldn't have changed anything.
Not only did he call Gates a friend, he said the police acted stupidly.
Gates was the one who acted stupidly.
They wanted him to come out of his house and talk to them. Now if, as a black man, he was concerned, then he should have been anxious to get out of the house where all actions by the police would have been in public view. Instead he stubbornly refused, and he was the one who injected race: "Why, because I am a black man?"
And Gates was arrested for "disorderly conduct" after a warning, because that's what he wanted. He wanted to be a "victim."
This President is a hoot. When he should speak out, he stalls and waffles, claiming that he needs to wait for more "details." When he should wait for details, he shoots from the hip.
The officer involved says he won't apologize
Good for him!
Who will be first to show up in Boston ... Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson?
Oh, and BTW, the Globe may have scrubbed it from their site, but the arrest report is still here.
Jesse Jackson first for sure, mb
July 23, 2009 - 09:14 ET by BlondeDid you see how fast he was on the scene at the Chicago cemetary? OMO, I wonder whose private jet he borrowed?
The thing I find really, really disturbing about this administration is its propensity to attack private citizens without a second thought....you know, those evil Wall Street capitalists who received bonuses (resulting in death threats for crying out loud), Joe the Plumber during the campaign, and now a cop doing his job.
Obama needs to apologize to this officer. Like yesterday.
I hope he fails, too.
The thing I find really,
July 23, 2009 - 09:20 ET by motherbeltThe thing I find really, really disturbing about this administration
is its propensity to attack private citizens without a second thought..
You're right, B....he is really establishing a pattern of doing that.
And everyone should be disturbed about it.
Don't forget the evil
July 23, 2009 - 12:06 ET by MrDavisonDon't forget the evil unethical doctors performing unnecesary surgery to line their pockets. Those greedy bastards.
i'm not a person of color, unless white is a color.
July 23, 2009 - 19:29 ET by puredmashiebut i have been stopped by a policeman. i was on the way home from a golf tournament and got the whole nine yards: say the alphabet over, do the fingertip to nose test, etc. at no point in time did i ever consider saying to the officer anything other than "yes, sir. no, sir. thank you, sir." gates is a stupid racist.
swing hard in case you hit it.
No, no, no -- Gates isn't a
July 24, 2009 - 08:14 ET by ThisnThatNo, no, no -- Gates isn't a stupid racist. He's a renowned Harvard scholar. The cop is a "rogue cop", and a racist. Didn't you read this morning's Boston Globe which points this out?
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Talk about acting "stupidly"
July 23, 2009 - 15:22 ET by needleWow....again he doesn't know, and admits he doesn't know, what he's talking about! Too much.
You betcha! TOTUS was sure showing off his ignorance last night.
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I'M ENTITLED...
July 23, 2009 - 07:06 ET by danybhoyThis Henry Lewis Gates guy seems more then a little full of himself. The cop was responding to a call of a breakin in progress, he shows up & Gates reams him. BTW, race has nothing to do with this at all, Gates is entitled. At least he comes off as such.
Note to Prof.Gates-You may teach a Harvard, but that does'nt make you look good here. Most people who are not as smart as you, have enough brains to not make something out of nothing & get arrested for no reason.
If Harvard has any balls, & I know they do not, the least they should do is suspend Gates for a year without pay. He got off easy with cops, he should pay a price for mistreating a cop for doing nothing more then his job. What a tool.
"It's still "We the people", right?" megadeth
You gotta read the linked police report
July 23, 2009 - 07:07 ET by SickofLibsAfter Prof. Jerk is cuffed and being taken away, the cop says we should lock the door to your house.
Prof. Jerk responds "You can't, the lock is broken due to a PREVIOUS BREAK-IN ATTEMPT" (probably perpetrated by some white graduate students.)
So this genius Harvard professor (likely living in a free or almost free university-provided mansion/residence) never thought to call a locksmith and have his front door repaired?
Bwahahaha!
So he had a previous
July 23, 2009 - 11:09 ET by Ken ShepherdSo he had a previous break-in attempt and yet this is how he treats a cop responding to a call about a possible break-in?
Unreal.
Ken, as Bud Abbott used to say: "Why you ungrateful ingrate"
July 23, 2009 - 11:44 ET by SickofLibs"Thanks for responding so quickly, even before the campus police" would've been nice.
Another thing I don't get is why don't they have security systems in these staff residences, especially since burglaries are apparently commonplace? Instead, someone walking by had to call 911? If my door lock was broken, it would be pretty darn high on my priority list to get it repaired.
Will Obama retract his statement?
July 23, 2009 - 07:33 ET by Old SaltAfter reading the police report, I have to wonder if it was the police or Mr. Gates who acted "stupidly".
Reverse-profiling?
July 23, 2009 - 22:45 ET by GalvanicThe White House is already backing away from Obama's 'stupidly' statement, trying to make it clear that he wasn't labeling the officer as stupid.
If Crowley is cleared by the investigation, he ought to publicly ask the President to apologize for his stereotyping Crowley without even having all the facts.
And if Obama is smart, he'll invite Crowley to the White House to make the apology to him in person.
Obama is guilty of racial profiling of white law enforcement officers.
Both the Prof & Prez Racist
July 24, 2009 - 11:33 ET by MaximusBraveheartI agree; they are both overtly racist against whites doing their job. This is extremely clear in both cases here. The Prof was profiling the white guy as a racist when HE was the racist doing it. And the Prez is racist for making the assumption the white officer did something wrong when he even said he did not have all the facts. So they BOTH judged solely on RACE and did great harm to our society. That is racist & I think both should be held in full account! Media do your job! M-B
Sir, do you have an ID card?
July 23, 2009 - 07:11 ET by jdlybrandNo, but I got a whole deck of race cards. Me, Jesse, Al, and the Prez play all the time!
"What a revoltin' development this is!"
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SOOOOO
July 23, 2009 - 07:15 ET by jacktheripperThe "president"calls the Police Officers "stupid" for arresting a black man ? hmmm
And this idiot Prof is teaching the youth of America ? I expect a full retraction and apology from TOTUS to the Officers involved and to the citizens of this country! This fool (both) should RESIGN!!!!
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You get what you pay for
July 23, 2009 - 07:12 ET by AJBSo these are the leaders of the black community? This guy, Al Sharpton, Jessee Jackson... teaching everyone that all you have to do is yell Racism and you get you way. What a pathetic way to live your life. What pathetic and sorry people.
Globe caught in the act
July 23, 2009 - 07:39 ET by SickofLibsGoogle "boston globe". Then click "news results for boston globe"
PJ's article here comes up #2.
And the police report has miraculously reappeared on bostonglobe.com.
Lot of scrambling going on over there this morning.
Talk about the height of dishonesty.
July 23, 2009 - 08:50 ET by superconThe po' black man was rousted by the po'leese. That is the theme that many are trying to foster. "Arrested in his own home for bein' a black man!!! " " Whatchu" doin' in this neighborhood boy ?"
And now we even have the President calling the police stupid. I guess that is good enough for the Boston Globe. Scrub away.
I have been listening to this story for two days on the raido now and everyone seems to like to leave out the part where Gates was openly hostile ,sarcastic, confrontational and beligerant to the police officer who merely asked for a photo ID.
As the officer was leaving the Professor was publicly taunting and humiliating him in front of the crowd that had gathered. He claims that he was refused the name and badge # of the officer when that information is right on his chest pocket. I have seen the professor on T.V. several times and he seems to be loving all the attention he is getting you see. He absolutely loves it. Now he has some street cred. He isn't just some sell out to the white establishment anymore. He can claim that even with all his fancy degrees and his high falutin' Cambridge address that to the po' leese he is just another negro locked up for being black and now he is just some other guy on the corner keepin' it real.
Hey Janet Napolitano...I'm proud to be a Right-winger.
Linked on Drudge, PJ
July 23, 2009 - 08:12 ET by BlondeHence the server meltdown.
I hope he fails, too.
The most disturbing thing about Obama's involvement...
July 23, 2009 - 08:14 ET by PA Conservative"I mean, if I was trying to jigger into ...," Obama began, and then
trailed off as reporters laughed. Obama laughed, too. "Well, I guess
this is my house, now so it probably wouldn't happen."
Uh, no DB, the White House is OUR house. You just live in it temporarily, until the country comes to its senses and kicks you to the curb. Besides injecting himself in the Gates situation (which no President should or would normally do), he utters the line above. Jeez, the kids really are in charge right now. The country needs someone with class and maturity as it's President. This assclown is beyond clueless.
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That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends,
it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to
institute new government...
didn't he make a comment
July 23, 2009 - 08:48 ET by mister josephdidn't he make a comment about 'if i'd done it in DC, i'd be dead,' thereby insulting the Washington DC police?
You are correct, sir...
July 23, 2009 - 09:08 ET by PA ConservativeI missed that part of it. These comments continue to show the arrogance and the "black rage" our President has. He is not fit for office.
PAC
That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends,
it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to
institute new government...
Is "Stupidly" even a word
July 23, 2009 - 08:19 ET by sevans1956Instructions to anyone being questioned by a police officer: "Try to answer affirmatively". If he asked for ID, give it to him!
I was once responding a false fire alarm at my business. After I turned it off, I went back up to the front and was greeted by two officers with guns drawn. I raised my hands, answered their questions politely, gave them my ID and then thanked them for doing their jobs. That is what this officer was doing.
I sure wish there was an audio tape of this.
Yes we should alwqays thank
July 23, 2009 - 09:01 ET by Dan The Man 2Yes we should alwqays thank the police for doing thier jobs. As hard as it is I thank them when they give me a ticket or just stop them. I say that I am glad they are doing their jobs and stopped me. I dont like it but I want to be free.
Me too, sev
July 23, 2009 - 09:13 ET by NayI had forgotten but this happened to me once also. I worked for a Savings and Loan (just dated myself there!) and was responsible for the ATM when it jammed after hours. I received a call that it had malfunctioned and didn't want to go by myself so I took my brother with me. While I was unjamming the machine, he inadvertently set off an alarm. I knew the police would be coming and called the local number for the police to explain the situation. I then waited with my ID at the ready to prove my identity.
It didn't take a Harvard degree for me to know that I would appear to be an intruder and I needed to be cooperative and have my identification ready!
Well to do...
July 23, 2009 - 08:26 ET by beauxdogI worked for a couple of years for a retail camera chain. The chain had a policy of demanding ID for all credit card purchases.
In the years I worked there, I discovered there was a VERY small percentage of black males that take great umbrage to being asked for their ID. These tended to be the more well to do paying with gold or platinum American Express cards.
It didn't matter that you had just politely spent an hour with them showing them all the latest and greatest camera stuff... as soon as you asked for their ID, you were a racist of the worse sort.
Let me repeat, this was a very, very small percentage of people. You could sense their hostility, but I never experienced any really open beligerance. They would tend to either just walk away from the sale or they would return it very shortly thereafter.
My last experience of this type, the man made his wife return the purchase. You could see the embarrassment in her eyes. I tried to make it as easy as possible for her because I knew it wasn't her fault.
Considering this guy is the head of a W. E. B DeBois organization, it is really not surprising. WEB was a known racial terrorist in his day.
Thank you,
Beauxdog
Stupid people doing stupid things
July 23, 2009 - 08:47 ET by UnsaneI have little sympathy for law enforcement, but here, it seems that Gates was actively seeking out drama.
It's nice to see the Power Trippers actually doing their jobs for a change, so I come down on their side here. Looks to me like the only individual here playing the race card was Gates. He got what he deserved.
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yelling "NO I WILL NOT!" at
July 23, 2009 - 08:52 ET by mister josephyelling "NO I WILL NOT!" at a police officer when they ask you to identify yourself is the pinnacle of stupidity.
and a lot of these 'educated black men' in academia are so out of touch with reality. i had to sit in court recently and listen to a college prof spout off his crap about racism towards his junior-high son, and the guy kept going on and on about how he 'knows the law.' the judge reminded him that she was the final authority of the law in that room, and that she knows the law better than him. he didn't care for that much.
it seems to me
July 23, 2009 - 08:54 ET by larry on LIobama had an inadvertent rev. wright momment last night.
Birds of a Feather
July 23, 2009 - 08:59 ET by CaringwhiteguyGates is running his arrest strategy exactly as Obama ran his campaign strategy. I hope the Cambridge police, the police union and Sgt. Crowley don't run their campaign like John McCain.
Race baiters, from loud ones like Sharpton and Gates, to the devious ones like POTUS, must not be allowed to get away with this type of behavior.
Very damning report
July 23, 2009 - 09:05 ET by krendlerI can see why it was removed. Doesn't mesh with the "way-out-of-line, racist police officer" meme being put forward by CNN, MS-NBC etc.
Didn't hear anything from the police report from Soledad O'Brien this morning either. She and the two anchors were 1000% behind Gates on this.
And nice of Obama to take sides, noting the long history of discrimination by police against blacks (implying that the police officer involved in this case is a racist - How nice).
Regarding Gates request for an apology etc, I hope the Boston PD tells the race-baiting Gates to go F himself.
Gates clearly wanted to turn the matter into a racial thing from the get go. Entirely consistent with who the guy is. Walks around life with one huge race chip on his shoulder.
I'm not sure exactly when
July 23, 2009 - 10:36 ET by CoolShadesI'm not sure exactly when the police report was published, but CNN's Soledad "Black in America 1 and 2" O'Brien is making the rounds on her network. She backed Gates last night on Anderson Cooper and this morning (after the whole world has read the police report) to continue backing Gates and "insinuating" racism with the Cambridge Police Department.
I'm shocked (well, maybe not) the President of the United States commented on a Cambridge Police Department arrest WITHOUT ALL THE FACTS in a nationally televised press conference. This act alone may be unprecedented.
Such is the problem as we move to replace actual newspaper...
July 23, 2009 - 09:07 ET by JohnMcGrew...with electronic media. The Boston Globe decides that something is embarrasing to one of their own, and with a click of a mouse it's like history didn't even happen.
No Business of a President
July 23, 2009 - 09:08 ET by slickwillie2001For some reason our idiot President inserted himself into this case last night. This is just not done; how many times have you heard public officials refuse to comment on a law enforcement case while it is still being investigated? And not only did he comment on the case, he recounted it in a very racially biased version that not a single piece of true reporting on the incident has. We now have the police report, Gates's version of what happened, and the Bamster's version.
Re the Boston Globe, I would say that they removed the police report because it does not comport with the Bamster's racist recounting of the incident.
The Boston Globe Is A Fair And Balance New Source (?)
July 23, 2009 - 09:11 ET by rammingspeedThis was clearly an interfering with an officer case. A disorderly conduct arrest was called for. Period. Given the totality of circumstances, it was not unusual for a D.A. not to prosecute: An older distinguished man of the community with no prior record, who obviously was frustrated by not being able to get into his house, then being challenged by the police. He lost it. Not uncommon. But Gates got a break. This was not a false arrest, nor was it "stupid," as The Won stupidly said.
The Boston Globe is covering for its elite buddy, and, I believe, trying to cover Obama's "stupid" remark, for which Obama will be criticized and held accountable.
Our President showed his
July 23, 2009 - 09:09 ET by jgarciaOur President showed his true colors…… ! Mr. Obama told us he doesn’t know the full story, but still had no problem telling millions of people, who were watching to get answers to his health care takeover, that a “white” officer doing his job was out of line towards "HIS FRIEND"…. So how would Mr. Gates feel if someone was in his house, officer didn’t ask for ID and took the word of said unknown person???? President and Mr. Gates owes this Officer a VERY LARGE APOLOGY! I am sure it will come right after MSM, few members of our fine Government and Duke University apologizes to the Innocent Duke lacrosse Players……
Holding my breathe...... NOT!
local news
July 23, 2009 - 09:33 ET by soosanthe reporters on the drudge-linked boston tv news I watched agree that no matter what the facts are, the police officer is going to lose. Actually, I kind of enjoy when the President starts his condescending off-telepromptor comments - it hastens his demise. I feel bad for the cop.
the man in the Whitehouse (Obama) needs to apologize...
July 23, 2009 - 09:25 ET by vrwc13...first to police Sergeant James Crowley and then to the American people for his bias and mis-statements. His and Gates actions are unbecoming of their positions.
v
...pass the popcorn please
Agreed
July 23, 2009 - 10:09 ET by OxyConObama shoudn't "stupidly" be taking sides without knowing all the facts first.
Obama's stupid comments have now made this a national headline story.
How much you wanna bet that the vile Liberal bloggers are now trying to dig up as much dirt as they can on officer Crowley? They are going to give him the same treatment they gave Joe the Plumber, Carrie Prejean and Sarah Palin.
I think Obama's poll numbers are going to take another hit over his "stupid" reaction to this story because he took sides based on his own biased racial beliefs. The real Obama is starting to emerge for everyone to see...the racially biased grievence monger who has a problem with whites.
Obama shoudn't "stupidly" be taking sides without..all the facts
July 23, 2009 - 10:13 ET by vrwc13Obama shoudn't "stupidly" be taking sides without knowing all the facts first.
...not very presidential, hmm.
v
...pass the popcorn please
Content of Character
July 23, 2009 - 09:38 ET by shuq4Seems the officer followed procedure and utilized "the content of his character" , while Mr Gates utilized the "color of his skin"
MLK, Jr is still shaking his head in disbelief about his legacy.
Whos was behaving in a racist manner?
July 23, 2009 - 09:43 ET by OxyConSomeone was, but it certainly wasn't the Police officer.
At the end of the report, Gates admits that his home was broken into before, saying the door was broken as a result.
If your house was broken into before, and the Police come to your house to respond to a burglury call, wouldn't you thank the Police officer for protecting you?
It's clear that Gates wasn't responding in a rational manner and that his behavior was influenced by the skin color of the responding officer.
He shouldn't have been arrested
July 23, 2009 - 09:48 ET by nwahsAs bad as Gates behavior was, he shouldn't have been arrested.
The police report sounds more like a cover your a** than a narrative. I suspect the police officer had already figured out Gates was not a threat when he asked the neighbor to remain outside and flag down the the other officers, instead of asking the resident to go to a place of safety.
I don't think the officer is racist, but I do think the only reason he arrested Gates is he got his feathers ruffled. He probably shouldn't be a policeman.
Anyway, that was the arresting officer's side. From the report there are plenty of witnesses so it should be a fairly simple investigation.
The vast majority of cops are honest, brave people, but just one cop with a chip on his shoulder, can screw up many of lives.
Who here hasn't met a cop with a chip on his shoulder?
Why not Jeb Bush?
Wow.
July 23, 2009 - 09:56 ET by onewiseguyYour last sentence is worthy of example:
"Who here hasn't met a cop with a chip on his shoulder?"
Any honest person who's read the report can easily see that the person with a chip on his shoulder was not the Cop but rather the Professor. He displayed incredibly childish behavior by being verbally abusive, insulting and racist.
Turn it around nwahs
July 23, 2009 - 09:58 ET by BlondeThe cop goes up to the door, asks the man to identify himself, and he does, "I'm the homeowner, I forgot my keys"...blah, blah, blah. The cop believes him, doesn't ask him for his ID, and leaves. Turns out the dude really is a burgler, and makes off with everything in the house.
How does that end up nwahs? The homeowner sues the snot out of the department and the officer, that's how.
Gates got himself arrested for being a jerk. The cops can do that, you know? These self-important Harvard asshats (and self-important jerks in general) ought to know better. But they don't, and it usually ends up badly, just like this.
Obama needs to apologize for shooting off his mouth and sliming this man who was doing his job, not to mention for intentional race-baiting. He's the President of the United States, for crying out loud, not some school yard bully with a microphone.
I hope he fails, too.
"He's the President of the United States, for crying out loud,"
July 23, 2009 - 10:10 ET by vrwc13He's the President of the United States, for crying out loud, not some school yard bully with a microphone.
...the man in the Whitehouse, maybe he's not of the former, but of the latter?
v
...pass the popcorn please, and I hope he fails, too.
In spite of the rule of thumb
July 23, 2009 - 10:16 ET by nwahsAll you need to do is comply with the investigation. You don't have to be nice to the policeman. I think people should because they have a tough job, but its not required. When policeman start believing people have to be nice to them, and arrest or ticket people who are not nice to them (as PJ Gladnick suggests happens), you get a bad cop.
Gates behavior was childish. It wasn't menacing or disorderly. He wasn't a threat to anyone. He shouldn't have been arrested. He should have been ignored.
Why not Jeb Bush?
Screaming at a cop
July 23, 2009 - 10:19 ET by BlondeAnd acting like an asshat is disorderly conduct.
Why don't you try screaming at a cop the next time you get pulled over, then get back to us with how that worked out for you, okay nwahs?
I hope he fails, too.
Why don't you try screaming at a cop the next time...
July 23, 2009 - 10:27 ET by vrwc13: )
v
...pass the popcorn please
Well hopefully
July 23, 2009 - 10:27 ET by nwahsHopefully I won't wind up like the tasered grandmother that played on the evening tabloid shows a while back :)
But a more realistic scenario is when you have the chief of police threaten to arrest someone for video taping a public city council meeting, even though it is perfectly legal to do so. So you think thats a good cop too?
Why not Jeb Bush?
nwahs
July 23, 2009 - 10:54 ET by BlondeI'm not aware of the videotaping incident to which you refer. Have a link?
I hope he fails, too.
I sure do
July 23, 2009 - 12:44 ET by nwahsWatch the video, it's about 3 minutes into the story.
BTW, before you watch all of that, its not the Cambridge police chief.
I should have said "a police chief" instead of "the police chief."
My point is this is a more typical illustration of policemen overstepping their bounds.
http://www.wwltv.com...
Why not Jeb Bush?
I can hear
July 23, 2009 - 16:29 ET by jacktheripperbackwards shawn now.... "DON'T TASE ME BRO"
"I LOVE DEAD KENNEDY'S"
I dunno
July 23, 2009 - 18:15 ET by nwahsWhen you get my age, so little excites you, I might go for the cheap tingle :)
Why not Jeb Bush?
Backward Shawn...
July 23, 2009 - 21:31 ET by Georgia GirlNo kidding...I was drinking a Coke when I read your comment and laughed out loud -- so that I almost lost the Coke.
I've asked you this before...Would you please tell me why your tagline says: "Why not Jeb Bush?" Tell the truth. ^_^
I think he'd be a great President
July 24, 2009 - 09:55 ET by nwahsI think Jeb Bush would make a great President. Seriously.
Now everyone says, that can't be, we've already had 2 Bush Presidents. Well stranger things have happened. Obama.
I owe you a coke :)
Why not Jeb Bush?
nwahs...
July 24, 2009 - 18:54 ET by Georgia GirlOkay, I'm taking a leap of faith here that you are telling me the truth...but I thought you were a liberal! So I thought it was your way of "helping" us pick someone who would lose on the Republican ticket. Not that I don't think Jeb is okay, but the Bush thing...you know what the media would do with the dynasty aspect. And I'm just so darn sick of the media that I don't want to give them anything.
Well ask yourself this
July 24, 2009 - 23:06 ET by nwahsWhat liberal positions have I taken that make you think I'm a liberal?
If you can't think of one, you might be swayed by the fact that its a common tactic 'round these parts to call someone a liberal if you disagree with them.
I think after 3 more years of Obama's mushy leadership, Jeb Bush could easily win the White House.
(Just a point, in another thread a poster calls me an Obama shill. Does the above statement sound like an Obama shill? Thats why they never quote anything, they just accuse.)
Its early yet, but in another year or so it won't sound ridiculous. I can't think of anyone else in the Republican party that would make a stronger leader.
Why not Jeb Bush?
Backward/Forward...
July 25, 2009 - 16:09 ET by Georgia GirlTry not to laugh, but I've merged you and "Forward Shawn" in my mind. Not that I personally have a problem with either one of you! But it wasn't an accusation -- I was just surprised you would be for Jeb Bush. I don't think I've ever pointed and screamed "liberal!" on here, in a way to get people to be quiet. I'm not really like that. There are so many viewpoints here (which is good), and I try to listen to everybody's view on things and consider what people have to say...I rarely change my mind on anything though -- I'll admit that. I'm of Norwegian ancestry -- we tend to be convicted and stubborn ;) ...although folks on here have convinced me that one candidate I had been hoping would come along & be a good Republican choice probably will not be.^_^
Well I hope it didn't sound like an accusation
July 25, 2009 - 19:47 ET by nwahsIn all the posts I've ever read from you, you have never done anything like that. I was just trying to make my point with evidence, not suggesting you were jumping to conclusions. The short answer is I'm not anywhere close to being a liberal. I'm a conservative with a libertarian backbone :) But the threads are many and people say things that aren't true, void of any evidence or quotes. I thought that was why you were confusing me for a liberal. To be honest, I've seen left leaning people on this board that would be considered facists on Daily KOS. Yet here they're considered ultra liberal. I sincerely doubt this board would hold a true liberal's interest for long.
"Where is the moment we needed the most
You kick up the leaves and the magic is lost
They tell me your blue skies fade to grey
They tell me your passion's gone away
And I don't need no carryin' on"
:-D
Take care !
Why not Jeb Bush?
nwahs...
July 25, 2009 - 21:02 ET by Georgia GirlOh, okay. I thought I offended you by insinuating you may be liberal. LOL. It's funny how there can be little misunderstandings on here.
But honestly, I really have merged you and the "Other Shawn" on some issues. I mean, I know you are my nice music supplier, but my brain just can't spell a word backward without thinking of it forward -- so when I see "nwahs," I think "Shawn," and then when the other Shawn comes along ... I kind of pile the comments all together in my head. I know, that made no sense to anybody but me. And yes, that kind of scares me. LOL! ^_^
Anyway, sorry for the misunderstanding. And HAVE A GOOD DAY. ;)
More realistic?
July 23, 2009 - 11:34 ET by CobraMan"But a more realistic scenario is when you have the chief of police
threaten to arrest someone for video taping a public city council
meeting, even though it is perfectly legal to do so."
Tell me, nwahs, are you in the habit of videotaping, without prior permission, a city council meeting and run the risk of being arrested for violating the rules of parliamentary procedure set up by that council, or are you just trying to change the subject?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
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The US Supreme Court
Not in this state
July 23, 2009 - 12:34 ET by nwahsIts perfectly legal to videotape a public city council meeting.
Why not Jeb Bush?
No, you need permission
July 24, 2009 - 10:50 ET by CobraManNo, you need permission from the City Council. Just like to need permission of a Judge to video tape a court proceeding even though it's "public." That's called decorum.
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The US Supreme Court
No you don't
July 24, 2009 - 11:27 ET by nwahsNo you don't. Its a public meeting, its not a court room. Its not the same. You don't need the council's permission.
Why not Jeb Bush?
Um, yes, you do
July 25, 2009 - 20:29 ET by Unsanenwahs, I have not once been to a public meeting where the citizenry can take pictures whenever they want. Yes, you DO need to council's permission.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Well say it all you want
July 25, 2009 - 21:10 ET by nwahsBut but NO you don't. Do you think the belligerent police chief in the link I provided, suddenly become understanding, or did someone instruct him on the law?
Missed the link?
http://www.wwltv.com...
Why not Jeb Bush?
We can only hope..
July 23, 2009 - 12:39 ET by PA ConservativeShawnie Boy that you DO end up tasered on the sidewalk somewhere. It would be a form of cosmic justice for all of the asinine opions you have amused us with lately. Let me ask you a question. Do you realize, like most liberals, how racist and biased you really are? In your world, Gates couldn't have done anything wrong; A) He's a lib and B) He's black. The reflex that many in this country have (including yourself) to automatically cry Racism is going to be the downfall of our society. Many people have gotten to the point where they ignore the facts of a situation...emotion takes over. Does this, at all, sound familiar to you Shawn?
PAC
"That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends,
it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to
institute new government, laying its foundation on suc
Yes, it was.
July 23, 2009 - 10:56 ET by CobraMan"It wasn't menacing or disorderly."
You seem to be ignoring the fact that the Professor continue his behavior OUTSIDE, in view of the public. That's called creating a public disturbance. He also continued up his disruptive behavior AFTER the police told him to stop several times. That's called being disorderly. And THAT"S illegal, it's a misdemeanor.
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Bad Cop, Good Cop?
July 23, 2009 - 11:19 ET by CobraManNwahs, you seem to be under the impression that the police must act in a respectable manner towards a citizen, but that citizen doesn't have to act in a respectable manner towards the Police. Using you own argument, wouldn't that failure to act in a respectable manner towards the police lead to bad citizens? I mean, really, if the citizens demand respect from the law, they better give the law the same level of respect. Otherwise it creates a PROTECTED class of people, those who don't wear the uniform of the police. Is that really what you want?
Do you REALLY want people to feel free to insult, demean, and generally act in a manner unbecoming of a member polite society simple because they're interacting with the police? Do you REALLY want people to disrespect police officers without recriminations? That's a short-cut to a total disrespect for the law itself, a short-cut to chaos.
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One of my great disappointments in life
July 23, 2009 - 11:58 ET by UnsaneDo you REALLY want people to disrespect police officers without recriminations? That's a short-cut to a total disrespect for the law itself, a short-cut to chaos. Maybe if cops actually decided to be professional and act professional (like the minority of pros in their ranks), there'd be a great deal more respect for them, especially from me, for instance.
If cops behaved more like the first guy who wrote me a ticket - which I deserved, hands down - I'd like them more. But I have had too many run-ins with the idiots to give them carte blanche.
But as I said, looking at the facts here, I don't blame the cops for doing what they did here.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Mose cops act respectfully
July 24, 2009 - 10:52 ET by CobraManMost police DO act respectively towards people, until those people make an ass of themselves. I've rarely seen one a policeman that didn't act respectively.
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n-wwwaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhsssssssssssssssss
July 23, 2009 - 11:51 ET by Unsanenwahs, I have little sympathy for cops. To me, while there are professionals in the ranks, too many of them view their badges as a free "I get to be an asshole and treat everyone as poorly as possible" card. Too many of them are criminals with badges; people who think we work for them instead of the other way around. Cops ask for and deserve every single gram of crap they get and more. (And the odd thing is that they, every so often, cry like sniveling infants about why people aren't kissing their behinds 25/8 for doing their job. They never, ever, ask themselves why that in fact is. If they were to, they might get somewhere.)
Now, if every cop behaved interacting with me and others with the professionalism of the cop that wrote me my first traffic ticket on a PERFECTLY clean "kill", I might be more supportive of them.
Anyways, that being said, I sure as all hell don't do what this guy did with the cops. if I were him, I would have left the area based on the premise that while it is funny when the idiots collide, it can get very ugly and very fast. If a cop asks me what my name is, I tell him, because it is no big deal. I sure as all hell wouldn't do what that idiot professor did. In which case I have to side with the cops here.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Me too
July 23, 2009 - 12:26 ET by nwahsI'd have gave him my ID and thanked him for looking out for my neighborhood. But I don't expect to be arrested unless I'm, breaking the law, and calling a cop a racist, from my front porch isn't breaking the law.
I've seen some very bad cops in my life (there isn't a worse drunk in the world than a drunk cop), and I know they are the minority. I don't think this guy is a bad cop, but I think he used bad judgment and escalated the situation.
Why not Jeb Bush?
Idiots collide
July 23, 2009 - 19:52 ET by UnsaneBut I don't expect to be arrested unless I'm, breaking the law, and calling a cop a racist, from my front porch isn't breaking the law. The dude followed the cop and basically threatened him. I really can't blame him for reacting as he did.
I am no fan of law enforcement, especially the local Power Trippers. However, do you see me following them around, using threatening language? No.
This is a classic case of idiots colliding - the idiot with his shiny "asshole license" dealing with a BIGGER idiot with a Piled Higher and Deeper degree. I'm with the former idiot rather than the latter. At least the former idiot was trying to actually do his job and protect property. I'll give him points for that at least...
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Re; Blonde
July 23, 2009 - 19:10 ET by Vivaldi5"How does that end up nwahs? The homeowner sues the snot out of the department and the officer, that's how."
And if it's Gates, Blonde, he probably also adds some inflamatory comment about how the white police officer didn't properly protect his home due to 'endemic racism' exerted against honest black homeowners like him!
The description of Gates' behavior in the original "po-po" report, which was too hot for the Boston Globe to keep on its site, makes Tyler Perry's Madea character sound positively calm by comparison! And yet it strikes me as extremely credible!
→ nwahs
July 23, 2009 - 10:03 ET by Cool ArrowAnd Cambridge will finally have the Police Force it deserves.
Maybe Gates has had years polishing his baiting skills. Maybe the cop fell into his trap.
I like to think I would have walked away too.
There's a good chance of that
July 23, 2009 - 10:22 ET by nwahsThat might be exactly what happened. From the report, Gates was pretty hostile toward the officer, yet as close in proximity as they were, he didn't once touch the officer. Not a brush and not a shoulder tap. Thats odd restraint given the heated nature of exchanges told in the the report.
Why not Jeb Bush?
He threated the police.
July 23, 2009 - 11:00 ET by CobraManYou seem to be ignoring a lot of the police report in your support of the Professor. Have you forgotten that he threatened the police?
"Gates then turned to me and told me that I had no idea who I was “messing” with and that I had not heard the last of it."
That's a verbal threat of intimidation and retaliation. Care to try to make any more false excuses for the Professor??
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Well I think in the context
July 23, 2009 - 12:39 ET by nwahsI think in the context of him using the telephone trying to reach the police chief, he meant taking it up with his superiors. You'd be grasping at straws to show the officer felt physically threatened.
Who knows, it my fly on People's Court :)
Why not Jeb Bush?
I didn't say physically. I said verbally
July 24, 2009 - 10:56 ET by CobraManYou can't threaten people and get away with it, even if it's just a verbal threat to "get you." that's called intimidation.You know that, but don't want to admit it.
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Shawn, he was arrested for
July 23, 2009 - 10:41 ET by Dan The Man 2Shawn, he was arrested for following the officer as the officer was leaving. Gates had proven himself to be agressive and combative. You dont follow a police officer out the door of your residence and continue to threaten him. If ya do then you could be arrested.
If ya wanna comment then educate yourself with the report next time or continue on your Trollish ways.
Read the comments
July 23, 2009 - 10:48 ET by general companyAfter the artical in Boston Herald quite a bit of support for the Police officer. Obama inserted his foot again
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
You made the pont that disproves your own point
July 23, 2009 - 11:10 ET by political mavenYes, cops have an attitude. That is exactly why you keep your mouth shut and do what they say.
If I was working a job where some thug might blow my head off any minute I would have an attitude too.
Some of them are real a-holes, but again , thats why anyone with brains shuts up and does what they are told. This "professor" teaches black studies, HE is obviously one who see racism in white bread.
Hey! professor, sometimes a cigar, is just a cigar. Dude has a major chip on his shoulder, and if the cop was black he would have behaved diifferently.
Blacks are the most racist people in the country. Comes from extreme insecurity.
I see
July 23, 2009 - 18:17 ET by nwahsYes, cops have an attitude. That is exactly why you keep your mouth shut and do what they say.
Sort of a politics of appeasement on a local level. Gotcha.
Why not Jeb Bush?
Boston Globe
July 23, 2009 - 09:55 ET by east tennessee johnThe rules are simple: When it's one of us, scrub the report. When it's one of them amplify, analizeit on page , add supplement "facts" and move on. Are you surprised?
No surprise
July 23, 2009 - 10:11 ET by iveseenitallNo surprises in this entire story. Racist professor. Racist "jounalists". Racist president. Blame "whitey". What's new?
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
What's new?
July 23, 2009 - 11:19 ET by acumenWhen blaming "whitey" (particularly white grannies) the State approved term that must now be used is 'typical white people'. Two weeks in joy camp for you!
Maybe it isn't redacted enough?
July 23, 2009 - 10:01 ET by nwahsUpdate: the police report describing Gates’s hysterical behaviour
has apparently disappeared from the Boston Globe site. Strange, don’t
you think?
Perhaps Gate's claimed the report wasn't redacted heavily enough. A person could figure out his exact address using that copy of the police report.
They should take out the entire street name.
Why not Jeb Bush?
Humm....
July 23, 2009 - 11:28 ET by CobraManSo, you claim they redacted the entire report because one small section contains the address? If that was their only concern, why didn't they just redact the ADDRESS itself and leave the rest iof the report intact?
It looks to me that you're just reaching for straws here in an attempt to justify the exclusion of the pertinent parts of the police report.
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Since when does a news
July 23, 2009 - 11:50 ET by Chris NormanSince when does a news organization feel it has any responsibility in protecting the address of a person involved in a prominent news story - especially if that address was the location of the news event in question? Does this policy only apply to black professors at Harvard?
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
→ OUCH Chris!!
July 23, 2009 - 11:54 ET by Cool ArrowThat's gonna leave a mark.
Whenever its sought
July 23, 2009 - 18:23 ET by nwahsGovernment agencies have an obligation to redact private information when documents are sought under public information laws. You have right to know what transpired, you don't have a right to invade his privacy.
The police have his phone number too, think they should make that public?
Why not Jeb Bush?
They didn't make it public.
July 24, 2009 - 11:03 ET by CobraManDid you actually READ the posted report? It didn't contain any personal information like the address and phone number. You're inventing this to justify a CENSORING of public information by the newspaper in question. A police report is PUBLIC information. You don't want public information to be, well PUBLIC. How liberal of you.
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Did you?
July 24, 2009 - 11:36 ET by nwahsDid you read the initial report? It contained the name of a witness. That name should have been blacked out. Obviously the Cambridge PD felt much of the officer's narrative should have been redacted.
Oh yea, thats news flash for PJ Gladnick and his update. The Boston Globe didn't redact the police report. The Cambridge PD or city attorney redacted it, and I can see why.
Why not Jeb Bush?
OMG< they named names!
July 24, 2009 - 11:43 ET by CobraManExplain to me why the name of a witness should be redacted? That name is as much of the public record as the person making the arrest and the person under arrest! What difference does it make that a NAME is used? That's not protected information, as a look into any phone book can tell you.
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Newsbunglers Bungle Again
July 23, 2009 - 10:05 ET by jabelsonI wonder why Gladnick feels compelled to rewrite this as a traffic ticket instead of an arrest on man's porch after showing the proper ID? Is it because he - like the city of Cambridge, realize that a man's home is supposed to be his castle and that yelling at a cop is still a legal act? Instead of attacking the Globe for removing a police report, perhaps Gladnick - an ace journalist I'm sure, could tell us how many white folks were arrested after mouthing off to cops in their own homes?
Swiss cheese...
July 23, 2009 - 10:16 ET by vrwc13Your arguement has more holes in it than swiss cheese, thus responding any further would be feeding the troll...
v
...pass the popcorn please
Disorderly conduct is a legal act?
July 23, 2009 - 10:22 ET by acumenA six year old could eat a box of Alphabets and crap a more sensible argument.
Gates "defenders"
July 23, 2009 - 10:31 ET by iveseenitallHere we go again. If this were reversed and a black cop had arrested a white professor, who then started yelling about race, the story would have taken on a whole new angle. And neither Barry, nor the "jounalists" would be defending the professor. Yes, "racism" is alive and well in America. And it's practiced by the lefty "liberals", including America's "president". What a sad, sad joke!
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"
What is your planet of origin?
July 23, 2009 - 10:26 ET by SickofLibsContinuing to scream at a cop and calling him names when you've been warned to stop is not a "legal act."
Disturbing the Peace is not legal
July 23, 2009 - 10:45 ET by CobraMan"I wonder why Gladnick feels compelled to rewrite this as a traffic ticket instead of an arrest on man's porch after showing the proper ID?"
Gladnick was using a simile to make a point. I guess that connection escapes you. Oh, and the man wasn't "on his porch" as you claim. He followed the polcie outside.
"Is it because he - like the city of Cambridge, realize that a man's home is supposed to be his castle and that yelling at a cop is still a legal act?"
This may also have escaped you, but the Professor wasn't arrested for simple yelling at the police. the man was yelling in public, causing a disturbance. That's a misdemeanor in most areas, especially in up-scale areas like where that idiot Professor lives. They didn't arrest him while he was yelling in his own house, he was arrested after he kept yelling at them OUTSIDE his house where the neighbors, and passerby's, could hear him, and AFTER they asked him several times to stop. So the police wee RIGHT to arrest him.
"Gladnick - an ace journalist I'm sure, could tell us how many white folks were arrested after mouthing off to cops in their own homes?"
Once again, he wasn't IN his house, he was OUTSIDE. Have you ever seen the show Cops? I've seen many "white" people get arresed for screaming at the cops OUTSIDE their homes.
Get this straight, the Professor acted in a manner that is unbecoming of a civil person. He demeaned an officer of the law. He acted in a manner that was disrupted to the general peace. He DESERVED what happened to him, just as anyone else who acts the same in a similar manner. Don't try to excuse him for his blatantly obnoxious behavior and try to blame this on the police who were only doing their job.
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Ah...it's been awhile...
July 23, 2009 - 11:33 ET by HillbillyKingYOU been busy? Did you run out of this?
:-)
Speaking of acting "stupidly"....
July 23, 2009 - 10:16 ET by acumenThe National Association of Police Associations endorsed Barack Obama 08.
From Boston Globe website article - "But people who know Crowley were skeptical or outright dismissive of allegations of racism.....his union, and fellow officers described him yesterday as a respected, and respectful, officer who performs his job well and has led his colleagues in diversity training."
I wonder if Obama has any idea just how much political support he lost last night when he decided to "stupidly" take sides against the police in this incident?
Chickens coming home to roost.
Excellent!
July 23, 2009 - 14:02 ET by Kekela WardGreat!
I can only hope this causes a massive influx of new members here:
http://oathkeepers.org/oath/
Sam: "I hurt somebody's feelings once"
What's so stupid about asking for ID?
July 23, 2009 - 10:31 ET by CobraManThe President claims that the police acted stupidly. But how, exactly, did they act stupidly? Was it because they (correctly) responded to a reported break in by requiring the man inside to provide assurance that he actually resides in the house? Or was it because they didn't recognize a (supposedly) highly respected Black Harvard professor on sight and know that he lives there? Or did they act stupidly for not using a Black Officer to question a Black man? Just what did the police do that makes the President think they acted stupidly?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
Indoctrination
July 23, 2009 - 10:40 ET by iveseenitallBarry Soetoro has been indoctrinated by the lefties. Say this over and over, Barry--"White cops bad, black professors good", White cops bad, black professors good", "God damn America", God Damn America." Good boy, Barry, now sit.
NEVER,NEVER trusta "liberal"
Too specific... Modify
July 23, 2009 - 12:24 ET by MrDavisonToo specific...
Modify the first quote to read "White people bad, black people good." That about covers today's lesson in Barack's unification of the United States.
Tune in tomorrow for the "White people bad, hispanic people good" lecture.
That's the way...
July 23, 2009 - 10:32 ET by FuzzlenutterI grew up in Arlington, MA, right next door to Cambridge, and know their police officers can be assholes. BUT, they did the correct thing in this instance. But of course they cowardly backed down because of political correctness. The individual officers know they're right, but the "higher ups" fear Al Sharpton (that lying and theiving "man" could'nt die soon enough for my satisfaction) and this type of shit will go on and on while.
"POLITICAL CORRECTNESS WILL BE THE DEATH OF THIS COUNTRY"
FTA "she observed what
July 23, 2009 - 10:33 ET by T-Bone MassFTA "she observed what appeared to be two black males with backpacks on the porch of• Ware Street", who was the other man, where did he go, isn't he a witness from within?
Also, His reply was “ya, I’ll speak with your mama outside”. what is he 5 years old? This guy is a harvard prof, glad i went to a state college.
He should of replied the POTUS doe not have a BC so I don't have to show my ID, in the words of some youth in Indiana, "this is a black world now"
I flew in very early this
July 23, 2009 - 10:37 ET by Gat New YorkI flew in very early this morning and the radio had the police report.
I fully understand the circumstances and the fact that police acted according to proper procedure. Gates was essentially breaking into the house that he leased and there were a number of daytime break in the area. So neightbor called police not having seen Gates. the police responded and asked to see I.D. proof and Gates was rude and belligerent. The police were leaving when Gates challenged them. Gates was the instigator and the overt racist in this.
I also heard a report that the white police officer used to be a Brandeis University police officer and was the person who rushed to respond to former Boston Celtics star Reggie Lewis who had already gone into cardiac arrest. The officer tried desperately to revive Lewis and pleading that Lewis not die.
Next time Gates and that punk who plays President wants to recklessly accuse people of being a racists they should first look in the mirror.
Thanks Gat
July 23, 2009 - 13:03 ET by sevans1956I read the same report that he was the officer that applied CPR on Reggie Lewis. It is also good to hear that he is gtting support from all officers, with no distinction to the color of his skin. Gates needs to appologize for assuming all white cops are racists.
The same report...
July 24, 2009 - 09:18 ET by beauxdogThe same report also stated that the officer did NOT know that the black man he was trying to save was a celebrity basketball player.
I think that was a very important point.
Thank you.
Beauxdog
Much Ado About A
July 23, 2009 - 10:50 ET by oldArmyMuch Ado About A Hairdo!!!!
Remember FORMER..Rep.Cynthia McKinney. Seems to me...granted..I'm only a lowly Engineer...that the only true racists here are the ones that scream racism (ie) Cynthia McKinney. Even though the guard that stopped here was also an African American. She felt she was above the rules and didn't need to follow the same rules everyone did. Then she screamed RACISM and lost her job...LMAO!!!
Any one of us after the police were called to your residence for a breakin would have to present our ID's to the officer if for anything else.....our safety and the safety of our belongings. This is unbelievable.....Police were doing their jobs.
Racist this you ARROGANT piece of crap.
Michael Graham this morning Imus Louis Gates Arrest
July 23, 2009 - 10:49 ET by lareeMichael Graham this morning on Imus in the Morning disscuss the arrest
of Professor Louis Gates and the President mentioning in him in his
press conference. It's somebody's birthday today.
There is an excellent interview by Michael Graham linked in this post well worth the listen.
http://youhavetobeth...
BARRY RE-ESTABLISHES HIS STREET CRED
July 23, 2009 - 10:54 ET by SgthulkaYou gotta hand hit to the guy. He screwed-the-pooch in about 50 different ways last night, capping it off with his stupid comments about Cambridge.
Post racial president, indeed.
Investigating the Police
July 23, 2009 - 10:57 ET by slickwillie2001The dirt-digging on the police officer involved has begun; it appears that the officer, James Crowley, is the same officer that tried and failed to save the life of Celtics basketball star Reggie Lewis when he had a heart attack during off-season practice 16 years ago. That sounds like a good thing, but at the time the officer was accused of being racist because he failed in his attempts to save Lewis!
The President and the Professor: http://www.americanthinker.com
dirt diggers
July 23, 2009 - 11:08 ET by SickofLibsAll the flights from Alaska to Massachusetts are booked solid.
Gates has been a pompous a..hole for as long as I can...
July 23, 2009 - 11:05 ET by ThalpyGates has been a pompous a..hole for as long as I can remember. As chairman of the African-American Studies Department at Harvard, Gates has always demonstrated, at every opportunity, his seething hatred of White America. This partially Black man rants about racism and oppression while never recognizing, as Lawrence Auster has written,* that he, as a Black American at the very top of his field, is there because of American, not in spite of America. It's as if He did what He did all alone, conquering all odds, with no aid from this wretched, godforsaken place: America. Bs!
Gates is the living proof that Sharpton's claim that Blacks can't be racists is a lie.
*Lawrence Auster, February 26, 2006 View From The Right
He's a highly credentialed racist
July 23, 2009 - 11:11 ET by SickofLibsEvery single book he wrote (and he's written many) and film he wrote the screenplay for are about race.
That's his profession.
Racism is alive and well....
July 23, 2009 - 11:18 ET by HillbillyKingEvidently it's OK to be a racist today in America, in fact it's encouraged, as long as the racist behavior is directed at people of light skin pigmentation(a.k.a. white people).
This incident is just the latest reminder of this situation.
Want proof? (as if you really needed any more) take a look at this:
lol' Henry gettin arrested on his porch pic(ah...the irony)
Hmmm, I wonder why that Officer (the big fella in the foreground) with darker skin pigmentation isn't mentioned in any of the propaganda slandering the lighter skin pigmentation Officer? Anyone got any guesses? I mean, why didn't he help his fellow darker skin pigmentation American of continental Africa descent by way of Keyser, WV out of this travesty of justice and racial bigotry and bias? Oh that's right, he must be (in African-American vernacular slang) an Oreo cookie. Or he was just doin his job, you be the judge.
Or what about the Reporting Officer Carlos Figueroa? I'll take a wild guess and bet that he's not a red-headed person of light skin pigmentation of Irish descent? So why hasn't the P.C. Inquisition skewered him along side Sgt. Crowley? Hell, he was there and could have saved a fellow person with a darker skin pigmentation the horror of becoming a fraudulent martyr. But he just stood by and let Sgt. Crowley have his way with lol' Henry. So why not slander him too?
And while I'm at it, I'm at a loss to figure out why lol' Henry hasn't lambbasted the whole damn Cambridge Police Department for being a bunch of racists. These photos prove that they hold racist celebrations. So why not slander them too?
Wait a minute, on that last one it appears that the NAACP has riden to lol' Henry's rescue. They'll slander the Cambridge Police Department, no problem. Hey, I wonder if they'll use those pics I linked as evidence? As an aside, anyone else find it completely insane that people of lighter skin pigmentation can be called racist for using the word "colored" to describe people of darker skin pigmentation even when said people of lighter skin pigmentation can donate money to an organization that actually has that racist word (colored) in its name? I mean, at least the United Negro College Fund only uses the word Negro at the very bottom of their page, not in their masthead. Geez.
All humor and sarcasm aside, this situation epitomizes the state of race in the United States today.
Sadly, it demonstrates just how far people of ALL skin pigmentations have to go before racism(and all that it entails) is a thing of the past.
I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any
party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics or in
anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an
addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could
not go to Heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all.
- Thomas Jefferson
reading what i have of this incident-
July 23, 2009 - 11:23 ET by JIMMY1660the police, of course will always be wrong. just like Rodney King. there were 3 other men in that car, who followed directions of the police until things get sorted out, and never got police attention as did mr King.
Gates should have thanked the neighbor and the police for being there. Gates is an arrogant bigot. publish his address and let the neighbors know he is a piece of goat dung. and POTUS shooting off his mouth without knowing the facts is racist as well.
BHO- THE PROGRESSIVE PIRATE
→ More soft bigotry
July 23, 2009 - 11:23 ET by Cool ArrowThis appears to be more of that "Soft bigotry of low expectations"
Here we have Gates, a Harvard Professor being held to a lower standard of behavior because of his color, in spite of his education.
And we have Obama, a Harvard educated President of the United States, reducing himself to publicly attacking on an extremely local level in favor of one of his buddies, in spite of his position as Chief Law Enforcement Officer.
We saw students of all colors falling to the ground in the 60s screaming "Police Brutality"
Some of them never progressed beyond agitation.
There is no easy answer on this one.
Gates, who runs Harvard’s African-American research centre
July 23, 2009 - 11:41 ET by Paul AtreidesGates, who runs Harvard’s African-American research centre
Sounds like a group of fun individuals, huh? If I was a gambler, I'd wager a hefty sum that, if this department hadn't been created, the folks working in it wouldn't be working anywhere of note.
Mediocrity for the mediocre.
→ For the good old days
July 23, 2009 - 11:48 ET by Cool ArrowThere are those who long for the good old days of Jim Crow and race riots.
Those days are gone, but Harvard still lends its name to foolish pursuits.
All I want to know about Mexico, I learned in World History. I'm an American, not a Mexican.
What the hell is "African American Research"?
Does it not suggest that logically there should also be "American Research"?
I'm still trying to figure out Maya Angelou
July 23, 2009 - 11:56 ET by Paul Atreidesshe gets up a lets go with a stream of nonsense and people act as if civilization has taken a gigantic leap forward or something.
→ Maya?
July 23, 2009 - 12:01 ET by Cool ArrowShe got her street cred whoring.
What's not to love?
No wonder she spoke at Bubba's inauguration
July 23, 2009 - 12:10 ET by Paul AtreidesBirds of a feather.
Perhaps we should all flood
July 23, 2009 - 11:26 ET by ex buff e-dubPerhaps we should all flood the White House with emails with the police report so Mr. Obama can get the whole story, and thereby retract his statement, apologize to the officer and thank him for doing his job, and remind his friend that he needs to assume responsibility for his actions.
Likewise, we should email the arresting officer with words of thanks, encouragement, and support, copying the commissioner who had the charges dropped.
Won't do any good
July 23, 2009 - 11:35 ET by Paul AtreidesThe only change DaWun was talking about was a change of melanin in the White House.
We are talking about a guy who wrote a book in praise of his father who walked out on him but trashed his honkey grandmother who raised him.
As I descended the stairs to the sidewalk, Gates continued to ye
July 23, 2009 - 11:30 ET by Paul AtreidesAs I descended the stairs to the sidewalk, Gates continued to yell at me, accusing me of racial bias and continued to tell me that I had not heard the last of him.
-------------------------------------------------
Especially, if our Ministry of Truth media has anything to say about it.
The next time some racemonger like this one calls for the police, paramedic, or fireman he should be told that he'll have to wait until a black cop, paramedic, or fireman can be put on the scene, even if he has to come from the opposite end of the city.
Way to keep it classy, Barry!!!!
July 23, 2009 - 11:45 ET by krendlerCalls the police officer - a guy just doing his job - and a very hazardous job - "stupid" and implies that he's a racist.
Cop's a Typical White Person, I guess.
Can't believe this idiot is president.
He wasn't doodling on a notepad
July 23, 2009 - 11:52 ET by Paul Atreideswhen Revrum Wright was hollerin'.
There's no business, like the race business!!!
July 23, 2009 - 11:56 ET by Roscoe MendagoWho's the racist? If racism was gone yesterday, this Gates character would be out of a job. Along with the Reverend Jackson, Reverend Al, and the rest of the "poverty pimps". Racism is an industry, and with Obama as the "enabler president" it's becoming a growth industry with limitless potential with the goal being America a more racist nation with a Mugabe wannabe in charge, remember don't let a crisis go to waste.
The Cambridge P. D. is now "racist" and "stupid"...
Cambridge Police
July 23, 2009 - 12:03 ET by easygoerThe cop who arrested gates gave mouth to mouth resuscitation to Celtics player Reggie Lewis when he collapsed. Some racist.
http://www.nypost.co...
And, from what I read
July 23, 2009 - 12:07 ET by Paul Atreideswas accused of being a racist because Lewis died.
He can't win.
→ Easygoer
July 23, 2009 - 12:09 ET by Cool ArrowGreat catch.
Utterly dumbfounding.
GATES
July 23, 2009 - 12:15 ET by tradalaskanI thought it was very premature and wrong for our president to call the Cambridgr Police Officers "Stupid" before he even knew the facts. This man is so unpresidential it is emberrassing.
DaWun says:
July 23, 2009 - 12:19 ET by Paul Atreides"this is not the teleprompter I knew."
I can hear the rimshot
July 23, 2009 - 12:30 ET by MrDavisonNow that's funny. Thank you.
He will
July 23, 2009 - 12:17 ET by jessieHHe will get it dropped. After all, He's a "Harvard" man...... Liberals are strange creatures.
→ Already dropped
July 23, 2009 - 12:21 ET by Cool ArrowWith summary judgement against the Police Officer by our nation's Chief Law Enforcement Officer.
→ Next step for Gates
July 23, 2009 - 12:35 ET by Cool ArrowI know I'm answering my own post. Guess I could just edit the original.
Gates needs to sue Cambridge for a few $million.
He's already got the opinion of Potus on his side.
CA
July 23, 2009 - 13:00 ET by well99He wont need to.
"Shagory said he was upset by the criticism leveled against the officer and questioned Gates’s statement that the confrontation had inspired the Harvard professor to consider making a documentary about racial profiling.
“I think the idea of him already planning a documentary is very premature, and a very unnecessary thing to say before all the facts are even in,’’ Shagory said."
Gates seems to be taking advantage of a "Crisis" .
→ well99
July 23, 2009 - 13:14 ET by Cool ArrowOther than his students, (doubtless it will be compulsory course material) who the heck is going to buy the video?
Interesting
July 23, 2009 - 15:15 ET by RukusThis whole thing is starting to have a kinda "planned out" feel to it. Hmmm...
Gary
Hey, Jimmah Che Obama! I want my country back!
→ Yes it does
July 23, 2009 - 15:19 ET by Cool ArrowAnd we've got the 911 caller (neighbor) standing out in the street when the cop shows up?
No explanation as to why the neighbor didn't recognize Gates?
I saw coverage...
July 23, 2009 - 12:36 ET by taocpaon "Oddball" last night just for kicks and of course, Eugene Robinson was on saying how the police officer was wrong and how Obama was right to criticize the cop at his news conference. I wanted to jump through my television.
As someone mentioned, all Gates had to do was show his ID, thank the officer and it's over. Instead he made a big production out of nothing.
When will the madness end? Hopefully, January 20, 2013.
Tom
do blacks get shot on white house grounds?
July 23, 2009 - 12:42 ET by InfidelphiaLet me be clear: the post racial president has spoken. Now shut up you honkies.
OBAMA IS GUILTY OF RACIAL PROFILING
July 23, 2009 - 12:53 ET by Tigerby assuming that a white policeman was guilty of racial profiling.
The more I look at this
July 23, 2009 - 12:59 ET by Tom PaineThe more I look at this case the more it looks like a setup. If I as a white guy who lived in that neighborhood was breaking into my own house I would expect that if the police came they would ask me for ID and that would be the end of it. Gates went out of his way to get arrested by refusing to produce identification and then taunting the police officers.
If I were truly conspiratorially minded the fact that he is a friend of Barry’s and the timing of the incident neatly give Barry the opportunity to comment once again about “race in America” to deflect attention from his failed health care proposal.
We all make compromises
July 23, 2009 - 12:59 ET by FranksamA few years ago I noticed someone with a flashlight in my back yard, and went to investigate. I happened to have a weapon handy in my back pocket. As I opened the back door, a Denver police officer shined his light in my face and told me to get back inside for my own safety. I did so, and two minutes later the cop knocked on my door. He apologized for his brusque treatment and told me that they were pursuing a fugitive from a nearby hit and run involving a stolen car.
I guess I could have told the officer that I have property rights and that I can be in my yard any time I damn well please. I could have asked for his ID, and I could have talked about his mom if I felt like it. Please note the overuse of the personal pronoun. Sometimes our safety depends upon giving up the technical 'rights' that we have, at least on a short term basis. Gates does not give a hoot about the general public safety. It's all about his selfish a$$.
I told the officer thanks and good luck catching that bad dude.
While I do not condone in
July 23, 2009 - 13:06 ET by LiberalliesWhile I do not condone in any way shape or form Gates's actions or his claim that the police officer was racist...I do not trust the police officer's words. I might be wrong and the police officer may have witnesses that collaborate his story. However, I have had enough dealings with police (being one myself in another life), that police officers have a huge chip on their shoulder and they love to show citizens who has the power.
I can tell you a personal story similar to Gates in which the officer without my permission entered my house after he admitted that he had no probable cause or any type of warrant. I ended up calling my lawyer, my friends who are State troopers and the officer's watch commander.
At first the officer lied through his teeth. What the officer did not know is that I had video recorded the whole incident. Needless to say, instead of making a federal case out of this, the officer was promptly fired.
Some of my best friends are policemen, but they, as much as I do not trust the cops one bit. The power trip that most of these looser get out of caring a gun and a badge is pathetic. I have always advocated for policeman to be required to obtain a bachelors and masters degree, but most police department only required 60 credit hours of college.
I have no respect for Obama, Gates or the police. Gates had every right to ask the officer his name, Gates had every right to ask why the officer was there. In fact, while I think it was stupid, ridiculous and pathetic, Gates' had the freedom of speech to call the officer a racist.
now for the police officer to claim that Gates was disturbing the peace and use this as an excuse to arrest GAtes shows that the police officer was no different than Gates.
True the police report doesn't paint a pretty picture of Gates, but the report is written from the police officers point of view AND in a way to excuse the officer's action. Oh and do not tell me that officers don't lie on these reports.
I have no respect for the police or for Gates. Police forces are nothing more than legal gangs, no different than the Latin Kings, MS13 or any other gang. The one difference is that the police has the government on its side.
Gates is an idiot and the real racist. the police officer had a chip on his shoulder and Obama is a pathetic fool that should have said NOTHING about this case.
→ Corroborate?
July 23, 2009 - 13:12 ET by Cool ArrowI hope you meant "corroborate" rather than "collaborate".
Thanks Cool Arrow! Yes
July 23, 2009 - 13:18 ET by LiberalliesThanks Cool Arrow!
Yes corroborate, NOT collaborate. HA!
→ de nada
July 23, 2009 - 13:21 ET by Cool ArrowI knew what you meant. I just wanted it clear to everybody.
yeah...my problem is that I
July 23, 2009 - 13:26 ET by Liberalliesyeah...my problem is that I know too much about police departments.
As a minority, I completely dislike minorities that use the racist card.
I know Obama is an idiot and it was very unPresidential(is there such a word?) of him to comment on something without having the full details. It was clear that his comment was based on Gates being his best buddy.
I distrust and completely dislike a Harvard professor whose first instinct is to call someone else a racist.
so, I do not trust anyone involved with this incident.
→ I know Liberallies
July 23, 2009 - 13:32 ET by Cool ArrowIt's especially suspicious because Gates' bread is buttered on the side of racial discord.
"African American Research"? What the heck is that?
yeah, EXACTLY! what is
July 23, 2009 - 13:41 ET by Liberalliesyeah, EXACTLY! what is African American Research!
Just Harvard full of white guilt trying to make blacks feel good.
Try to tell one of these so called enlighted African American professors involved in this type of programs about the FACT that African tribes are as guilty of slavery as Europeans and Americans.
African tribes fought, the winning tribe imprisoned and enslaved the loosing tribe. then they sold their African "brothas" to Europans and Americans for money, supplies, etc.
I had such a conversation with a professor of African American studies at the university I attended UIC, the professor went crazy on me. However, he was unable to deter me or to destroy the facts that I presented to him which showed that Africans are as guilty of slavery as Europeans and Americans of that time.
I was never a Cop myself so
July 23, 2009 - 13:43 ET by oldArmyI was never a Cop myself so I understand you have more experience dealing with the police than I do. You do have to take in account that this particular policeman was reporting to a home that was called in by a neighbor stating is was currently being broken into. I disagree that this cop had a chip on his shoulder but was asking someone to come out of the house for his own safety. Which is what set this whole incident off.
But that is the thing. Why
July 23, 2009 - 13:52 ET by LiberalliesBut that is the thing. Why would the police officer ask Gates to leave his own home? Because the officer could not do anything to Gates inside Gates' home since there was no probable cause or any type of warrant.
People do not understand what cops know. Inside your house, you literally have a bunch of rights and are very well protected from the police. Once you leave the premises of your home, all those rights and protections leave.
The cop knew how to get Gates. There was NO reason for the police officer to ask Gates to leave. The story that his radio did not work well because of the echo is complete and utter bull! If that were the case, radios would not work well inside police department buildings. Police radios are made to work well anywhere.
Gates is a racist idiot, the cop did not like being called a racist and used his badge and pistol to show Gates what happens to those that insult him
I think you misread the report
July 23, 2009 - 14:56 ET by bioteachedThe police officer did not say that the radio wasn't working, but that he was going outside because of all the noise that Mr. Gates was making with his yelling at the officer.
Better watch out
July 23, 2009 - 13:47 ET by nwahsThere's a Pennsylvania Conservative out there who going to hope you get tasered!
Seriously, this demonstrates the problem with lying on police reports.
First the initial story from last February"
http://www.wwltv.com...
Now the real story after the investigation:
http://www.wdsu.com/...
Reality is a bitch.
Why not Jeb Bush?
Shawnie, Shawnie, Shawnie
July 23, 2009 - 15:17 ET by PA ConservativeSo let me get this straight. Because police in New Orleans lied on a police report, ALL police reports must be lies. Man, you live in a trainwreck of a reality. Really lame...taking one instance and applying it to all cases. The weakest, most juvenile argument I have ever heard. So, in your world, Gates must be the innocent victim because A) he's a lib B) he's black and now C) the cops in New Orleans liked back in 2008. Dude, seriously...have you not one ounce of intellectual integrity?
PAC
That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends,
it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to
institute new government...
I agree. Based on my
July 23, 2009 - 16:28 ET by WisdomI agree. Based on my experiences and many others, you cannot trust a police report in full. Cops have been known to fabricate truths on the reports to make it appear as if they acted proper throughout the whole ordeal. After all, they have nothing to lose by lying on their reports.
That being said, I think Gates did act a little out of control, but by no means was it worthy of being arrested. That is ridiculous. Anyone who knows true conservatism values knows that cops overstepping their bounds and invading upon our liberties is something we shouldn't stand for. The cops shouldn't be arresting people all over the place for "talking back" because of their chip on their shoulder. Also, Gates repeatedly asked the officer for his name and badge number to no avail. And anyone who knows proper police protocol knows you are required to give out your name and badge when asked.
Both parties acted on emotion rather than logic, and a completely unnecessary arrest was made.
Agree
July 23, 2009 - 18:30 ET by nwahsI agree. As Liberal Lies brought up, I think a key point in the investigation is going to be why the officer lured Gates out of his house.
I don't think Obama should have commented on it, because whatever the findings, its now tainted.
Why not Jeb Bush?
Bill Cosby on Bamster
July 23, 2009 - 13:36 ET by slickwillie2001Cosby on the President shooting his mouth off about the Gates incident:
Bill Cosby Shocked at Dear Leader's Attack on Boston Police Officer: http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com
→ Cosby
July 23, 2009 - 13:41 ET by Cool ArrowWe might take this moment to note that Americans of all races are capable of thinking clearly.
i have always liked Cosby
July 23, 2009 - 13:58 ET by Liberalliesi have always liked Cosby and his push for portraying the African American family as a regular American family.
I ahve always liked the fact that Cosby tells blacks in America how it is their fault that they are poor and that crime in black neighborhoods and the high pregnancy rate is the fault of blacks and no one else.
However, I was sad when Cosby announced his support for Obama during the election.
but I agree, Cosby is someone that can think on his own. This is why he is not liked by the likes of Sharpton, Jackson, etc.
Just recalling from the
July 23, 2009 - 13:59 ET by Jack BauerJust recalling from the recesses of what used to be my mind BUT...
Isn't this guy the "Hip Hop" professor, who spends more time "rapping" with Gangsta thugs -- who sing of cappin' the po po?
Gates is a race huckster
July 23, 2009 - 14:05 ET by slickwillie2001There's no way that the police officer is lying or could get away with lying in this case. If you look at the picture in the article I posted, it shows Gates outside with the police officer and Gates is still hollering at him. By then other police officers were outside as well as members of the public. It appears that most of the 'disturbing of the peace' happened outdoors. There are plenty of witnesses to this.
Re entry, the officer had all the evidence that he needed to believe that a crime was in progress from the detailed 911 call, therefore he could enter the house. He also likely was able to see the damage to the door that Gates later admitted prevented it from being closed, further evidence that a crime was being committed.
The only 'profiling' that may have occurred here is from the person that made the 911 call, and even that is a very weak accusation.
Re 'black studies' at colleges, it's all a racket. It allows the college to hire wackos like Gates, allows an easy credit for those stupid enough to take the class, and is self-perpetuating. Womyns' Studies is no different.
grasshopper
July 23, 2009 - 22:19 ET by WesenThe Officer teaches a course in racial profiling at the Police Academy. I wonder how Gates treats students who think they know more thanhe does.
sw...glad I caught this
July 23, 2009 - 22:36 ET by bigtimersw...glad I caught this post of yours...you summed it up perfectly.
Everything.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Sounds to me like this guy
July 23, 2009 - 14:33 ET by CANCON1is a nut. He was selling on the tube this morning and is starting a new documentary special on this?
America is appearing crazier everyday.
Oh yes, you may have also elected the most unintellegable person in the country to the top spot. I for the life of me cannot seem to hear any anything that makes clear sense escape his lips. He really stuck his foot in his big yapper by calling out the police on this and stoking the race card to boot.
George Costanza has a better grasp of management, hell Kramer does too!
When will we come to the
July 23, 2009 - 14:40 ET by Chris NormanWhen will we come to the day when police departments, in trying to avoid charges of "racism", send only black cops to intervene in situations involving African Americans? Pursuing that further, when will the first black person die from the delay in matching the race of the cop to the situation?
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
→ Obama didn't say that!
July 23, 2009 - 14:44 ET by Cool ArrowWe have it on good authority (Robert Gibbs) that Obama did not call the police stupid.
So there you have it.
I hope that tipping point comes soon.
Gibbs: "Are you going to
July 23, 2009 - 14:52 ET by Chris NormanGibbs: "Are you going to believe your ears or me?" - and the media says in unison, "You!".
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Why do they even bother?
July 23, 2009 - 14:58 ET by Georgia GirlOkay, I hate to point out the obvious, but in reference to what Gibbs said, a situation cannot "act stupidly." Only a PERSON (or people) can "act stupidly." In other words, Gibbs, Obama using an action verb pinned him in on this one -- no way around it.
So Gibbs trying to spin this is just ... well, stupid! LOL.
CambridgeGates...just the facts ma'am...
July 23, 2009 - 14:58 ET by vrwc13fact 1: Obama said. "No. 2, that the Cambridge police acted stupidly..."
fact 2: Cop who arrested black scholar is profiling expert - The white police sergeant criticized by President Barack Obama for arresting black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. in his Massachusetts home is a police academy expert on racial profiling.
fact 3: it is unwise, yet alone un-presidential to speak on matters before knowing the other facts
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And yet
July 23, 2009 - 18:08 ET by lsudolemitethis is the same man who was suppoed to lead us to a post-racial America, remember. He still refuses to retract that statement by the way. This was very telling of the true Obama that he made this statement in an unguarded moment with no teleprompter to feed him carefully prepared lines.
If you think the Boston Globe is bad . . .
July 23, 2009 - 14:46 ET by bioteachedcheck out how the AP spun the arrest. "A neighbor had reported a possible burglary when Gates and a friend were seen trying to force open his front door, which was jammed. By the time police arrived, Gates was inside and showed proof of his residency. But he did not obey the officer's order to step outside, and after words were exchanged, he was arrested." You can find the entire article here: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D99K9Q001&show_article=1
They sure did shorten the time span and cut out quite a few of the details to make the police look bad.
I find it hard to believe that the Cambridge PD
July 23, 2009 - 15:08 ET by lsudolemiteis standing behind their officer if he were at fault, fully aware of how Gates and now apparently Obama are trying to turn this into a national racial issue. In the face of that kind of pressure the "offending" party is thrown under the bus at light speed, but that hasn't happened so far. If the report is true the officer also has multiple witnesses including Harvard police, so unless all of those people lie about what they saw, including his warnings to calm down or be arrested for disorderly conduct, I don't see how this guy is at fault.
Just out of curiosity, if the radio issue is such transparent BS, then why mention it at all in the police report since it would make the officer look bad, and be used as ammunition by Gates' attorney? By the way, I have run into officers who love the power trip aspect of the job as you mentioned, so I don't think all these guys walk on water either.
Officer is a Racial Profiling Instructor!
July 23, 2009 - 15:17 ET by slickwillie2001The officer involved in the Gates incident is a Racial Profiling Instructor for the police department!
Officer In Gates Arrest Incident Teaches Academy Class on Racial Profiling: http://www.weeklystandard.com
The black (of course) Chief of Police appointed him to that position.
"Cambridge police Sgt. James Crowley, the cop at the center of a firestorm over the arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates Jr., has taught a racial profiling class at the Lowell Police Academy for five years."
Is this about money?
July 23, 2009 - 15:27 ET by slickwillie2001This may be all about money. During the arrest Gates mentioned that he was willing to teach the police about racism and profiling. Not to imply that he planned this from the start, only that he saw the opportunity when the police arrived.
This is how people like Jesse Jackson make a living. They accuse others of racism, most conveniently Fortune 500 companies, and then as a remedy offer them 'Diversity Training' or some such crap. And of course, they have to be well paid for offering that training. It's a racket, and there are many organizations that do this other than Jesse's company, and hundreds of companies that have been blackmailed in this way.
It may surprise you when I
July 23, 2009 - 16:29 ET by goldbarIt may surprise you when I say the police are right on this one and Obama should have kept quiet until all the facts were in. If this order of events is true, Gates should have been more respectful. It sounds like he's been waiting for a situation like this and he got it and took advantage of it. If I were to lock myself out--which I never have, I would have called a locksmith, and not tried to break the door down. However a white friend of mine was questioned by the police in a very normal neighborhood and was questioned about his house and car and was arrested when the officer saw a tire iron on the floor of his backseat. He was put in L.A. County jail where his nose was broken and life threatened and when he went before the judge, the case was thrown out and the judge reprimanded the arresting officer.
"Rum, Romanism and Rebellion" in 2009
July 23, 2009 - 16:53 ET by needleIt seems like almost last year, but it was only 12 days ago when Eric Holder snarled that he may probe Bush-era torture. As I then predicted that was only a threat, which would be worse than useless if a follow through were ever attempted, and that Holder’s remark was trotted out only to deflect attention from the bad press that His Brilliancy was generating by His Booty-Check and also gathering animosity towards ObamaCare and Cap & Tax. And the threat worked … for about 24 hours or so.
Then last night our racist President – er, I mean His Excellency – opened his mouth wider than Hugo Chavez's, and made this blunder. That was too bad, because it is almost certainly too early for Holder or somebody else to cry “wolf, wolf” again.
Oh dear, now Chris Matthews, George Stephanopoulos, etc. are going to have to work overtime time get Humpty Dumpty back together again. And it is not getting any easier.
And then there is Sarah Palin. Don’t forget her. This completely fearless woman and extremely energetic campaigner will, as of this Sunday, be officially freed from her from post as Governor and the restrictions it has meant for her. I am guessing that she is just itching to get into the fray; and if my guess is right, starting next week things are going to get very interesting.
Personally, I am lighting a candle for wretched ObamaCare, may it Rest In Peace … forever and ever. Amen.
- Relying upon the MSM for your information is like relying upon an embezzler to manage your portfolio.
After the irrational outburst
July 23, 2009 - 17:21 ET by sevenWe have a new Drama department head
Professor Gates dean of the Performing Arts department.
the physical report
July 23, 2009 - 17:24 ET by sevenhttp://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0723092gates1.html
Called the editor
July 23, 2009 - 17:32 ET by MrltavernI just got off the phone with the editor who told me that the report is now back up. He claimed that it was temporarily down for 2 hours and that it's back up. I still don't understand why they took it down. He claims there were technical difficulities. I asked him if he would sell me a bridge to no where. LOL. Then he hung up.
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Is a fair trial possible?
July 23, 2009 - 20:15 ET by slickwillie2001Is a fair trial, either civil or criminal even possible, given that the Bamster has shot his mouth off on the incident? Any juror will now have to be screened to ensure that he or she has not seen the President's statement last night. Will they have to be questioned as to whether they have seen press reports or tv clips of his press conference?
Even more surprising that a 'Harvard lawyer' who everyone tells us is so brilliant did not think this through very far. Or perhaps out of malice he wanted to spoil any chance of a fair trial.
→ Well, slick
July 23, 2009 - 20:21 ET by Cool ArrowIn a word, "NO"
That was the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the United States who condemned the actions of a police officer.
Any jury should rightly be allowed to hear the reprimand as evidence.
How not to get arrested
July 23, 2009 - 20:26 ET by steve2526Prof. Gates should learn from Chris Rock
http://www.youtube.c...
A member of the right-wing media
Gates and tonsils...
July 23, 2009 - 21:39 ET by Georgia GirlI contend that out of everything Obama said last night, his comment on Gates and comment that "pediatricans-shouldn't-take-out-the-tonsils-if-it's-allergies" explains it all -- Obama's true self, attitudes and what his agenda is.
Is there a recording?
July 23, 2009 - 21:51 ET by slickwillie2001An article on the Gates incident at ABC News notes that the officer involved had his radio mike on through the encounter. If that audio was recorded, that recording may be a powerful tool in the hands of the police in this controversy. If the police report is accurate and it portrays Gates as a raving lunatic, and the police officer as the voice of reason, the table tilts strongly toward the police department.
The police also have the 911 recording to play with. If it is a quick call it will not mean much, but if it sounds detailed and urgent it will also help the police version of the incident.
What the Hell?
July 23, 2009 - 23:28 ET by gailannrWhite people don't get away with that kind of behavior either! Get a life people!
That is why...
July 24, 2009 - 09:37 ET by beauxdog"I have to say I am surprised by the controversy surrounding my statement, because I think it was a pretty straightforward commentary that you probably don't need to handcuff a guy, a middle-aged man who uses a cane, who's in his own home" Barack Obama
That is why...
Beauxdog
You do know who redacts public documents, right?
July 24, 2009 - 11:43 ET by nwahsUPDATE: The Boston Globe has now posted what it calls a redacted revised docket although it is described as a "police report" at the left side link on its site.
And redacted it certainly is since it has redacted out almost the
entire narrative section of the original report. To read the full
highly revealing narrative, check out the original police report.
You do understand the Boston Globe doesn't redact the report right?
The Cambridge PD or Cambridge city attorney redacted the report, and I'm guessing it lost much of the narrative because it raised a few red flags. Considering the law suit which is inevitable, I don't think they redacted it to hide Gates' behavior.
Why not Jeb Bush?
NOT Police Report
July 24, 2009 - 16:50 ET by P.J. GladnickUm...Did you read what it says at the Boston Globe link? Despite the misleading link title of "Police Report," it is NOT the police report. It is actually what they describe when you get there as a redacted revised DOCKET as in court docket. The actual police report contains the FULL narrative.
And the fact that the Boston Globe is trying to hide the FULL police report is kind of ridiculous at this point since you can now read it at The Smoking Gun and other sites.