Politico Writer Health Care Advice to Obama: Ignore CBO

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Julian E. Zelizer, a professor of history and public affairs at Princeton University, wrote an incredibly bizarre article for Politico. He accurately declares that the biggest problem for the Obama administration's health care plan probably wouldn't be Republicans but the assessment by the Congressional Budget Office warning of a trillion dollar cost of the proposal. Zelizer's solution? Just ignore the CBO. Zelizer starts off firmly planted in the realm of reality:

The most potent threat to the Obama administration’s fledgling health may come not from the insurance industry or skeptical doctors but from the Congressional Budget Office.

Okay, good beginning, Julian. Just stay on track and try not to come to any sanity-challenged conclusions.

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Earlier this week, CBO released preliminary estimates suggesting that the health care proposals — the most ambitious currently under discussion — from the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee would cost $1 trillion and trim the number of uninsured by only 16 million.

With a few more reports like this, CBO could quickly prove more damaging to the administration’s health care efforts than could Republican attacks about “socialized medicine.”

You're dead on here. It will be very hard even for Democrat legislators to justify voting for a health care plan given such a thumbs down by the CBO. Now how about some background on the CBO with respect to health care proposals?

The last Democratic president found out the hard way. CBO proved a major thorn in President Bill Clinton’s side when his administration pushed health reform in 1993-94. Because of pay-as-you-go budget rules in place at the time, any new spending proposals had to be matched by offsetting cuts. CBO, under the directorship of the widely respected Robert Reischauer, repeatedly frustrated the administration by casting aspects of the plan in politically unappealing ways. Clinton’s proposed employer premiums were labeled a tax, which then-Republican National Committee Chairman Haley Barbour and legions of GOP lawmakers and candidates seized on to repeatedly bash the president.

Interesting background material here on the CBO and the health care plan of 15 years ago although you let your bias show by using the word "bash" instead of "criticize" in the last sentence.

Sixteen years later, the Obama administration is pushing an ambitious and expensive health care overhaul just months after enactment of its massive economic recovery program that has already caused the size of the budget to explode. As CBO estimates about the high cost of the health care proposal emerge in coming months, Republicans will continue to pound Democrats about the impact on the deficit — the one issue on which the GOP finally seems to be gaining some political traction.

—P.J. Gladnick is a freelance writer and creator of the DUmmie FUnnies blog.


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Continuing a theme today (only) Marvelous Numbers (CBO) vs Obama

Darn those numbers.

Darn them to heck.

(Scott Adams)

As it turns out, those of us in the know (read history) the CBO numbers,bad as they seem to the Obama Administration, are always the mid-case sceneario. This means, we can use a multiplier of 1.5 and expect a multiplier of 3.0.

An order of magnitude greater than what is stated.

And you can bet the assumptions behind these numbers do not take into account that a great amount of the 'savings' are really transfers between accounts.  e.g. medicare funds used for EMR treatments transferred to those accounts now being hidden from us as 'premiums'.

What is a premium?

Do the non-insured have to pay anything for their 'choice' for a Fed option?

I think not.

There you have it.

ACA 

...

Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)

weren't these same twits arguing the opposite

during the bush administration?  in fact, so were conservatives.

 

swing hard in case you hit it.

Socialized Medicine

There are many democratics and liberals that want socialized medicine, and damn the cost. Those tend to be the folks that for some strange reason, just love high taxes on everything and everyone. I don't know if it is masochism or liberal-guilt complex, but they want higher taxes as a matter of policy.

Reality

Wish I could just ignore my finances and spend more than I have. What a racket.

Well Ed Schultz says he

Well Ed Schultz says he doesn't care how much  it costs, and who was the reporter posted about here this week who said Obama shouldn't let the fact that we can't afford it stand in the way?

What universe do these people live in????

Update:  It was E.J. Dionne.

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows.  -Bart Simpson

 

Obama doesn't need anyone

Obama doesn't need anyone to tell him to ignore reality. He's doing that anyway. And look at his rhetoric -- "gotta get this done now, immediately". He wants another massive transfer of wealth bill to be passed before anyone has a chance to read it, or come to their senses.

What is wrong with that man?

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Liberals constantly demand that we accept a glaring falsehood as truth; Obama's elimination of the word "terror" will make terrorist acts less terrifying

What is wrong with that

What is wrong with that man? 

IMO, he has a real perception of "manifest destiny" about himself.

He really believes that he is "The One" everyone has been waiting for.  He thinks he just "knows" what to do, regardless of the reality of the situation, and all will be well.

It's like a kid's "Magical thinking"....if he hides his peas under his plate, his mother won't find them and will think he ate them.

Cute in a kid;  in a President, not so much.

 

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows.  -Bart Simpson

 

motherbelt

It's like a kid's "Magical thinking"....if he hides his peas under his
plate, his mother won't find them and will think he ate them.


Cute in a kid;  in a President, not so much.

Speaking as someone who hated vegetables as a child, I used to try and pull that one off all the time. To no avail. After awhile though, my father didn't think it was too cute. Well said, motherbelt.

Good news for Princeton students

Initiating our esteemed public affairs colleague Julian Zelizer's 'ends justifying means' standard, Princeton University is pleased to announce the following new policies ensuring movement through the system as rapidly as possible with no regard for cost or quality of education:

Princeton will no longer be concerned with any costs associated with moving students through the Princeton system regardless of the destructive deficit placed on the University.  

All students are encouraged to use any and all tactics, no matter how devious, to obtain the ultimate goal of passing as quickly as possible. 

Should any failing grade be issued by an instructor, such grade will now be ignored by the administration of Princeton.

Debate will no longer be allowed at Princeton.

Any and all concerns relating to these policy changes will be overlooked by the president of Princeton. 

Nut in shell

Nut in shell acumen.

Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart

Well isn't that how

Well isn't that how liberals think?

Everyone should be able to go to Princeton (or any college of his/her choice, no matter the cost).

Just wait until The Obama gets his nationalized health care, and then starts on his promised "college for all" program.

Maybe that's what he meant when he said "You ain't seen nothin' yet!"

 

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows.  -Bart Simpson

 

Sorry, MB, but you left out

Sorry, MB, but you left out a whole class of students who shouldn't be allowed into Princeton. White males, for example. Or someone with excellent grades and proven potential. Black conservatives (Justice Thomas, for example, shouldn't even be given the time of day). Successful, conservative women (Palin -- need not apply). Anyone who thinks gun ownership is a right.

But -- if you can't speak English; failed your SATs (they're racist and designed only for the privledged, you know); are a teenage mother; any race but white (unless you're from the European elite class who have apologized somewhere along the line); or a white limousine liberal with feelings and a whole book of apologies -- then you can attend Princeton. Oh yeah--you must be able to spend some of your time protesting against things like the Constitution while you're there.

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Liberals constantly demand that we accept a glaring falsehood as truth; Obama's elimination of the word "terror" will make terrorist acts less terrifying

Denial of Reality

The government applies the best of cartoon physics. Falling isn't a problem if you don't look down.

Political Dictionary - Off Budget

Andrew_M_Garland

can't trust the government? say it ain't so.

This is so sad. If you can't trust a government agency, such as CBO, with their cost estimates, then who can you trust? <sarc>

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