Global Warming Alarmist Irked by Cold Weather


Why, oh why, can't Mother Nature cooperate so we can promote our global warming agenda? That pretty much sums up the attitude of global warming alarmist and documentary filmmaker, Gabriel London. His frustration came about over the fact that lately the very cold weather we have been experiencing has made the public more skeptical than ever over global warming. London explains in his Huffington Post blog why he is irked by the cold weather:

In a case of bad timing, last week brought with it more below average temperatures in New York coupled with another chorus of headlines from scientists spelling out dire warnings about global warming. As scientists gathered in Copenhagen for an 'emergency meeting' reported that climate predictions of the Intergovermental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) from two years ago are being outdone by worst case scenarios -- ice melting!, seas rising!!, rainforests disappearing!!! -- I, along with the rest of New York, was looking at the calendar trying to remember when it gets warm. It's been a long, cold winter here and Spring has barely even registered, so my feeling is, there go hopes that we as a people will get out in support of Congressional legislation and a new UN treaty on climate change. It sounds trite, but here's my hunch: beliefs in global warming rise and fall with, well... the mercury. And that spells trouble for those of us who believe we need to make changes now to head off global warming.

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Shame on the public for noticing what the weather is actually like and not paying attention to the IPCC theoretical predictions. 

We in the temperate world have the luxury of waiting to act as long as catastrophe isn't affecting us personally, but according to the scientists who met in Copenhagen last week, we need to look beyond our own experience to an array of fast changing global realities. They produced some very alarming evidence, but so far their alarm call is not being met with action. These scientists, after all, research and report using a global perspective, but as far as my fellow New Yorkers and me are concerned: it's time for summer!

Gee, Gabriel. Perhaps the 700 international scientists who are skeptical about global warming are correct after all.  However, any such skepticism is ignored by London who worries about the effect of what a mild summer would have on his sacred theory:

It's the same wherever you are: all weather, like politics, is local. Herein lies a major, but little discussed problem confronting those who want action on global warming: We can't agree on whether to act, largely because we experience weather locally rather than globally. From this perspective, the only hope for spurring Americans to care lies not in ad campaigns or celebrity endorsements of the cause, but in a long, hot summer that lasts until December when world leaders meet in Copenhagen to negotiate the new climate change treaty. But if the summer is anything like last year's mild weather in my neck of the woods, then we're in trouble -- and so are hopes for meaningful Congressional climate change legislation and a treaty.

Pay no attention to the actual weather outside your door. Unfortunately for London that is exactly what people are doing which really peeves him:

As it stands with global warming, there's nothing that can elevate our senses the way cold wind on our face or the sun in our eyes can when we step out the front door. Case in point, there's nothing like the fury of a hurricane to get people talking about action on climate change. But the reality is, the weather may not cooperate. We may not have record heat or extreme weather disasters to stimulate public attitudes on global warming.

London's frustration with the uncooperative weather leads him to suggest that perhaps the Weather Channel could become a propaganda tool for promoting global warming to explain why the earth is heating up despite the colder then normal temperatures outside the doors of their viewers:

We in the media, as well those that care in the public at large, need to find a way to couch the debate in a way that doesn't make it so easy to ignore. Unfortunately, I'm not really sure what can be done. A recasting of weather forecasting might help. The abysmally flat Weather Channel and accompanying website could spice up their local weather reports with a global warming weather forecast that explained why maybe it was freezing in New York but downright warm in Anchorage. Overall, I wish the news media would inundate us with the reality of global warming -- photos, testimonials, even disasters -- and not with the he said/she said 'scientists pronounce...' 'leaders declare...' 'celebrities endorse...' junk that we get instead of real reporting.

Make me feel global warming, even when it's 30 degrees outside. That's all I'm asking...

Would it help if Tinker Bell sprinkled you with pixie dust, Gabriel? That way you could believe you were warm even when you are really freezing cold.

—P.J. Gladnick is a freelance writer and creator of the DUmmie FUnnies blog.


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One thing that is perfectly

One thing that is perfectly clear this winter for our brother Yankees.  You don't have to shovel sunshine.  The more global warming the better.

I was going to tell Algore the same thing, but I couldn't see his face buried in that parka hood of his.

How DARE Mother Nature not

How DARE Mother Nature not cooperate!

Doesn't she know????

The debate is over.  The science is settled.  There is a concensus!!

 

I didn't think it was physically possible, but this both sucks and blows. -Bart Simpson

Right, MB. And this little

Right, MB. And this little data thing that was mentioned -- this is all short-term, hand-picked data, and what do you want to bet that they will conveniently leave out this year's updates, so as to not lower their temperature curves when this year's low temperatures are included?

Besides, they have all their conclusions already written, so why do they need additional information? Just wait -- if we get a 2-week heat wave any time this spring or summer, the airwaves and MSM will be loaded with "see, I told you so's". The UN, Obama, and Team Agenda will push legislation and agreements through with record speed.

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It doesn't matter what the

It doesn't matter what the weather does...all these people want is control.

We could be fighting off glaciers and still have to talk about this global warming.

 

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Last week, we had very

Last week, we had very unseasonable cold here in SD, into the single digits.  A "greenie" where I work did say that he was about ready to scrape the "Stop Global Warming NOW!" off his car.  I graciously offered my box cutters and Goo Gone for the task.  

"According to Metro Communications dispatch staff, there is believed to be a person trapped. At this time, we don't know if they are trapped in the car or in the train." 

 

 

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Bravo!

I like it!

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And here is the most

And here is the most important line...

 "Overall, I wish the news media would inundate us with the reality of global warming -- photos, testimonials, even disasters -- and not with the he said/she said 'scientists pronounce...' 'leaders declare...' 'celebrities endorse...' junk that we get instead of real reporting. Make me feel global warming, even when it's 30 degrees outside. That's all I'm asking..."

since London already defined Global Warming as a "Belief". What he's really asking for is NON-factual reporting. If the whole planet is below normal  in temp but one tiny little island in the South Pacific is warmer than normal... he wants the media to focus on the island. Seriously, look at what he wants... Photos, testamonials, reporting of any disaster as AGW related. That's like asking for a good ol' fashioned "Hellfire and Brimstone" revival.

Sing a little, cry a little, scare the folks a lot... then pass the plate around and tell them they are all going to heav..err... save the Earth.

Wanna hear a prediction? Here goes, 2009 will have been a colder year overall than 2008. There will be MORE Arctic Ice at the end of the melt season (15 Sept) than the last two years. There will be MORE Ice and snow AND it will be colder in Antarctica by the end of 2009 than 2007-2000. The Mean Global Temperature Anomaly will be Colder than last year making the current no warming/cooling trend 11 consecutive years since 1998.

Doc

2008: The year that the great LIE died.

How we know that they know that they are Lying.

Friedrich Nietzsche summed up how I feel about the MSM in this quote:

"I'm not upset that you lied to me, I'm upset that from now on I can't believe you."

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What he's really asking for is NON-factual reporting

He's asking weather forecasters to pattern their forecasts after Al Gore who said:

“I believe it is appropriate to have an over-representation of factual
presentations on how dangerous it (anthropogenic global warming) is, as
a predicate for opening up the audience to listen to what the solutions
are.”

Doc Navy. A little island in the north pacific is COLD, today.

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You can't make this up...

I am not sure if I am the only one who saw this but I went to the blog noted to read it and check out the looney comments.  I found the following "Ads by Google" at the bottom of the page:

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New Information

Interesting new study in the science of weather predictions: UW-Milwaukee Study Could Realign Climate Change Theory: http://www.wisn.com/weather/18935841/detail.html

"The research team has found the warming trend of the past 30 years has stopped and in fact global temperatures have leveled off since 2001."

Did I hear this guy correctly?

He claims that the media doesn't push global warming enough?  The fact that it is even mentioned is far more than it deserves since no acceptable science actually supports it.

It's more than just the

It's more than just the cold weather that has put the brakes on the momentum of this eco-parasite scam.  The Marxists in the "enviornmental" movement actually caused much of the financial crisis that now exists.  Their junk science guilt trips were luxuries in good economic times...and people allowed themselves to be conned.  Now that economic times are awful (and that much of the distress is a direct result of Al Gore's mob freezing up energy supply in a time of great need), we have the opportunity to recognize what this "Global Warming" hysteria is about...making socialism relevant by constricting the blood supply of capitalism.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill

The Evidence of Global Cooling

Global Cooling in 2008

2009 - Record cold wind chills of -50 C recorded overnight in Saskatchewan (Canadian Press, January 4, 2009)
2009 - Forget warming, greenhouse gases may trigger ice age (The Times of India, January 5, 2009)
2009 - London colder than Antarctica (The Daily Telegraph, UK, January 5, 2009)
2009 - Poor burn books to stay warm in chilly India, 55 dead (Reuters, January 5, 2009)
2009 - Rochester sees snowiest winter in six years, record snow in December (Rochester Democrat & Chronicle, January 5, 2009)
2009 - Cold streak sets new record, Saskatoon experiences 24 consecutive days of -25 C (The StarPhoenix, January 6, 2009)
2009 - Record cold weather payouts triggered as temperature hits -11C (The Times, UK, January 6, 2009)
2009 - Record-breaking cold -37 in Moose Jaw, Canada (The Moose Jaw Times Herald, Canada, January 6, 2009)
2009 - NCDC’s own graphic shows decadal cooling trend (Anthony Watts, Meteorologist, January 6, 2009)
2009 - Global Warming is Really Global Cooling (Right Side News, January 6, 2009)
2009 - Spokane, Wash., residents cope with record snow (FOX News, January 7, 2009)
2009 - 12 deaths blamed on snow, cold across Europe (International Herald Tribune, January 7, 2009)
2009 - Deadly cold, heavy snow grip Europe (National Post, January 8, 2009)
2009 - Minn. sled race canceled because of heavy snow (USA Today, January 8, 2009)
2009 - Extreme Alaska cold 60 below grounds planes, disables cars (CNS News, January 8, 2009)
2009 - Record snow takes toll on Great Falls plowing budget, crews (Montana News Network, January 9, 2009)
2009 - Life At Negative 78 Degrees In Alaska (NPR, January 9, 2009)
2009 - Polar Sea Ice Changes are Having a Net Cooling Effect on the Climate (Anthony Watts, Meteorologist, January 10, 2009)
2009 - Slovenia with record low temperature -49 (Montenegrin News Agency, January 11, 2009)
2009 - Earth on the Brink of an Ice Age (Pravda, Russia, January 11, 2009)
2009 - Global Cooling Headed Our Way (Newsmax, January 13, 2009)
2009 - Record cold hits eastern ND (The Daily News, January 13, 2009)
2009 - Biting cold hits Northeast, keeps even skiers home (ABC News, January 14, 2009)
2009 - Flint's 95-year-old record low falls as 19 below zero hits city (The Flint Journal, January 14, 2009)
2009 - Record snow lands on Bismarck-Mandan again (The Bismark Tribune, January 14, 2009)
2009 - Shocking cold wave drops temps to 40 below zero (Breitbart, January 14, 2009)
2009 - On the Brink of Climatic Disaster: the Coming Ice Age (The John Birch Society, January 15, 2009)
2009 - The Ice Age Cometh: Experts Warn of Global Cooling (Business & Media Institute, January 15, 2009)
2009 - Americans suffer record cold as temperatures plunge to -40C (Daily Mail, UK, January 16, 2009)
2009 - Record-breaking cold chills Western Massachusetts (The Republican, January 16, 2009)
2009 - Arctic front freezes US, Canada in record cold snap (AFP, January 16, 2009)
2009 - Cold pierces record in Sioux Falls, South Dakota (Argus Leader, January 16, 2009)
2009 - Iowa Endures Record-Breaking Cold (KCRG-TV, January 16, 2009)
2009 - Record cold in Detroit as deep freeze continues (The Examiner, January 16, 2009)
2009 - Cold snaps 124-year-old record in Fredericton, Canada (The Daily Gleaner, January 17, 2009)
2009 - Record Cold Chills North Country, New York (North Country Gazette, January 17, 2009)
2009 - Today’s sub-zero cold sets new record in Binghamton, New York (Star-Gazette, January 17, 2009)
2009 - Low temperature ties 1951 record in Hawaii (The Maui News, January 20, 2009)
2009 - UAE mountain covered in rare snow (AFP, January 25, 2009)
2009 - 8 found dead in Michigan cold since Jan. 17 (The Chicago Tribune, January 28, 2009)
2009 - Two Fairfield, Illinois businesses collapse under snow, ice (Evansville Courier & Press, January 28, 2009)
2009 - Ice storm cuts power to 870,000 in Midwest (Reuters, January 28, 2009)
2009 - Docks Collapse Under Weight of Snow, Sleet and Ice (Ozarks First, January 29, 2009)
2009 - Snow Storm Sweeps Northeast From Texas; at Least 23 Are Dead (The New York Times, January 29, 2009)
2009 - Saginaw Michigan breaks 1947 snowfall record for a calendar year (The Saginaw News, February 02, 2009)
2009 - Heaviest Snow in 18 Years Brings Much of Europe to a Halt (FOX News, February 02, 2009)
2009 - 75 inches of January snow sets Juneau record (Anchorage Daily News, February 3, 2009)
2009 - Slippery Slope: Ice Age Cometh in Five Years (NewsMax, February 3, 2009)
2009 - Recent cold snap in Mount Airy, NC shatters 1982 record (Mount Airy News, February 4, 2009)
2009 - Six die in snow roof collapse in Morocco (afrol News, February 5, 2009)
2009 - Hamilton, Ontario Canada broke a 28-year record low temperature (The Hamilton Sectator, February 6, 2009)
2009 - Ice, snow collapse several Anna, Illinois buildings (The Southern, February 6, 2009)
2009 - Record Cold Weather in Western Cuba (Prensa Latina, February 6, 2009)
2009 - Vail, Colorado set record for January snow (Vail Daily, February 6, 2009)
2009 - Record-breaking cold -50°F temperature reached in Maine (NOAA, February 10, 2009)
2009 - Snow storms force German motorists to sleep in cars (The Earth Times, February 11, 2009)
2009 - Worry about global cooling (Daily Breeze, February 14, 2009)
2009 - Snowstorms wreak havoc in the Balkans (The Earth Times, February 19, 2009)
2009 - Little ice age may be on the way (Lincolnshire Echo, UK, February 20, 2009)
2009 - GUINEA: Record cold snap destroys crops, kills hundreds of animals (Reuters, February 20, 2009)
2009 - Ice Age or global warming? (Reuters, February 24th, 2009)
2009 - Global Cooling Continues (The Hearland Institute, March 1, 2009)
2009 - Joy in NYC: Kids get first snow day in five years (USA Today, March 2, 2009)
2009 - Providence sets record; Coventry tops RI for snowfall (The Providence Journal, March 2, 2009)
2009 - Record breaking snowfall in Milwaukee (WKOW, March 2, 2009)
2009 - Ferocious storm dumps heavy snow on East Coast (International Herald Tribune, March 3, 2009)
2009 - Lynchburg Virginia breaks 84-year cold record (Lynchburg News and Advance, March 3, 2009)
2009 - 84-year-old cold temperature record falls in Baltimore (Baltimore Sun, March 3, 2009)
2009 - 1925 Low-temperature record shattered in Salisbury, MD (Delmarva Daily Times, March 4, 2009)
2009 - Senators Debate Global Warming Policy Despite Global Cooling Evidence (CNSNews, March 4, 2009)
2009 - Late snowfalls in Britain bring chaos to roads and rail (The Earth Times, March 5, 2009)
2009 - Blizzard blasts northern Plains, upper Midwest (USA Today, March 10, 2009)
2009 - Saskatoon ties 1951 record cold -36.1 C Wednesday; records set across province (The StarPheonix, March 11, 2009)
2009 - It wasn't just cold, it was record cold in Yakima, Washington (Yakima Herald Republic, March 12, 2009)
2009 - Record-brrrrrrrrreaking cold -34.8 C in Regina, Canada (CBC News, March 12, 2009)
2009 - Edmonton Canada bests all time record low by -12 degrees, columnist questions climate situation (Anthony Watts, Meteorologist, March 15, 2009)

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IT WILL BE COLDER NEXT YEAR!

If we are in a warming trend then it will be 115 F in Omaha, THIS YEAR, ain't going to happen

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PopTech...

I posted a similar list over at "Open Mind" a couple of weeks ago, in response to some warmalist who was asserting that AGW caused the Aussie wildfires this year. (IE: local weather events = Global Climate Change)  My Argument being that if the Alarmists and Warmalists could use local weather events to PROVE that AGW was real... I could do the same (and with FAR, FAR more examples) to prove that it didn't exist.

I listed ~ONLY~ new historical record low temps and record snow and ice falls, their locations, the previous all time record, and the dataset they were logged in. I also included 10, FIRST TIME in human history type cold events that have happened within the last 3 years, their location, and description with links.

Know what happend??

I got Censored. Ad Hommed. Called "Stupid", "Lazy", and "Deceitful"... then banned. And it was my FIRST ever post on that board.

Gotta love Tamino.

Doc

2008: The year that the great LIE died.

How we know that they know that they are Lying.

Friedrich Nietzsche summed up how I feel about the MSM in this quote:

"I'm not upset that you lied to me, I'm upset that from now on I can't believe you."

Yea Doc, The "high" temperatures were in 2 cities...

Affected by urban heat island effect...

If it was sooo hot?! Then why were record heat temps.  in South America Or South Africa, weren't mentioned this year, HUMMM?

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" I got Censored. Ad

" I got Censored. Ad Hommed. Called "Stupid", "Lazy", and "Deceitful"... then banned. And it was my FIRST ever post on that board."

So much for the "Open Mind".

 

Limited Disclosure:  I used to belong to the Sierra Club untill they went crazier. Worse of all, I was bribed by Exxon with free New Orleans Saints glasses with fill ups in the 70's.

Alarmist Censorship

They have to censor all information that goes agains their religion because they do not want people to know about the truth:

89% of U.S. temperature stations are biased by +1.0°C (Surfacestations)

I wonder how many more record lows we are missing because of poor station location and quality?

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Cross post

Looked it up... thought the folks here might like to see what happens when you post something that is contrarian to Alarmist Dogma:

DocNavy // February 12, 2009 at 10:44 pm

Craig Allen:
“Where is the global cooling that all the denialists are promising us?”

Since -as we all know- ANY significant warming event is proof positive of Global Warming, and any significant cooling event is merely anecdotal, short term, background variation, or random in nature; I direct your attention to:
Anecdotal evidence:

[edit]

[Response: I've championed the difference between short-term events and long-term trends, and the statistical significance of same. That's why this post is about trends -- not events. But you're either too lazy to pay attention, too deceitful to care about the truth, or too stupid to understand. Or all three.

In any case, your list of "anecdotal evidence" is way over the stupid threshold, although it might win you the "cherry-picker of the century" award. If anecdotal evidence is all you care about, have a look at yesterday's record-setting temperatures and note that the hots outnumber the colds by 418 to 39 (yeah, more than ten to one)]

Remeber here, that I was responding to an earlier post where the poster outright said that because AGW caused the Aussie Wildfires last month it proved that there was no Global cooling. (Contra to what ALL 4 global datasets say... including GISS.) Tamino was totally backing the guy up and showing graph after graph of how temp trends had risen in ISOLATED LOCATIONS in Australia which PROVED AGW was the root cause. When I flipped the script on him... well, you see how he resonded.

BTW, if you take ALL of the record highs for the 2008 winter (Ending March 2009) and compare them to all the record lows...there are:

A. More record lows than highs worldwide

B. The lows are broken by a FAR greater margin than the highs.

C. There are ZERO "First time in Human History" warming events.

D. According to AGW theory, there shouldn't BE any record shattering low events happening ATM, much less hundreds of them.

Doc

2008: The year that the great LIE died.

How we know that they know that they are Lying.

Friedrich Nietzsche summed up how I feel about the MSM in this quote:

"I'm not upset that you lied to me, I'm upset that from now on I can't believe you."

 

Not enough media support?

A GW alarmist complaining about media coverage is like a Democrat claiming media is in the tank for conservatives.

Too bad the weather isn't cooperating with their catastrophic predictions...could be that they are WRONG!

While we're talking about catastrophe, anyone see the report that global cyclone activity is at a 30 year low?  Darn...even the hurricanes aren't cooperating.

If the public becomes more skeptical of global warming based on COOLER TEMPERATURES, all it means is they have a lot more COMMON SENSE than this yo-yo.

A favorite saying of mine is that, "common sense is far too uncommon'".

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Hurricane Activity, Lowest in 30 Years

Global and Northern Hemisphere Tropical Cyclone Activity [still] lowest in 30-years (Florida State University)

Great point as it was Al Gore's propaganda movie An Inconvenient Un-Truth that had a picture of a Hurricane on the cover and came out right after Katrina that started the current hysteria.

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is Not Pollution

"Liberals"

This guy is typical of the modern "liberal". They wish and hope that things will be differet than they really are. And when faced with reality, their ideology kicks in and they deny what is right in front of their faces. This is why the minority ghetto has failed for decades. It is exactly why Barry is failing  abominably. He has a failure a day and he hasn't been in office but a few months. The jerk will go down screaming about "hope" and "change" because of his own immaturity and a socialist ideology which has been drummed into him since childhood. The arrogance of ignorance--- being unwilling to admit you've been wrong and dragging everyone else down with you. That's the hallmark of modern "liberalism".

 

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal"

PT

"Great point as it was Al Gore's propaganda movie An Inconvenient Un-Truth that had a picture of a Hurricane on the cover and came out right after Katrina that started the current hysteria." 

That was also the time frame in which NewsBusters took off and began tweaking secular socialist sensitivities to the point where they were offended that NB would dare to publish such "reactionary propaganda".  Here is the first NB post I have in my personal archive, but I distinctly remember articles about Katrina.  There used to be a way to search all the way back into NB archives, but I don't see a way to do it anymore since the upgrades.  It would be nice to have some of those old references.

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

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Let's see, how do we get the

Let's see, how do we get the Weather Channel to spew out more propaganda...  what jokers.  Lol!!!

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Mr. London needs to talk to the American Pschological Association.  Perhaps they can help him with his dilemma.  Remember this?

Armed with new research into what makes some people environmentally conscious and others less so, the 148,000-member American Psychological Association is stepping up efforts to foster a broader sense of eco-sensitivity that the group believes will translate into more public action to protect the planet.

"We know how to change behavior and attitudes. That is what we do," says Yale University psychologist Alan Kazdin, association president. "We know what messages will work and what will not."

...News stories that provided a balanced view of climate change reduced people's beliefs that humans are at fault and also reduced the number of people who thought climate change would be bad...

By editing CNN and PBS news stories so that some saw a skeptic included in the report, others saw a story in which the skeptic was edited out and another group saw no video, Krosnick found that adding 45 seconds of a skeptic to one news story caused 11% of Americans to shift their opinions about the scientific consensus. Rather than 58% believing a perceived scientific agreement, inclusion of the skeptic caused the perceived amount of agreement to drop to 47%.

American Psychological Association leaders say they want to launch a national initiative specifically targeting behavior changes, including developing media messages that will help people reduce their carbon footprint and pay more attention to ways they can conserve. They want to work with other organizations and enlist congressional support to help fund the effort.

Wow. So, the APA wants to work with media to brainwash citizens, and it's going to ask Congress to fund their efforts...

If the interglacial warm era continues, we will contunue to see above average (i.e.average being the midline temp for the last 12,000 years or so) temperatures for maybe a few thousand more years.  We are actually in a period of global warming and have been all through the little ice age and before that.  Just look at this graph and you will see that we really are on borrowed time.  BTW, the ice core that graph was taken from correlates with one taken from a Greenland glacier over 11,000 miles away.  Any way you look at it, the "norm" for the earth is a heck of a lot colder than it is now.  Here is a thought from Frank Lansner, civil engineer, biotechnology, writing at Watt's Up With That? 

When a few decades of low sunspot number is accompanied by Dalton minimum and 50 years of missing sunspots is accompanied by the Maunder minimum, what can for example thousands of years of missing sunspots accomplish? We don’t know.

What we saw in the Maunder minimum is NOT all that missing solar activity can achieve, even though some might think so. In a few decades of solar cooling, only the upper layers of the oceans will be affected. But if the cooling goes on for thousands of years, then the whole oceans will become colder and colder. It takes around 1000-1500 years to “mix” and cool the oceans. So for each 1000-1500 years the cooling will take place from a generally colder ocean. Therefore, what we saw in a few decades of maunder minimum is in no way representing the possible extend of ten thousands of years of solar low activity.

 

My thought:  we could be at the end of the warm era that man has enjoyed for about 12,000 years, and we wouldn't even know it for quite a while yet.  One thing is for sure, it's going to get awfully darn cold, and it looks like it will be sooner rather than later.

Note the lack of sunspots daily.  We are in a blank sun period that is approaching the longest of the last 100 years now.  From a previous comment:  Here at Solarcycle24.com, are three graphs that show the blank sun vs. the previous cycle, and sunspot number projections according to David Hathaway who is the guy at NASA who runs the SpaceWeather site.  It is possible that we are entering a brief cooling period within a longer warming trend.  Or, we may still be at the tail end of the little ice age and experiencing another cooling period as we climb further into an era of warmer temperatures.  The reason I say that is that the complete cycle of the Roman Warming (800 yrs.) and the Dark Ages (450 yrs) lasted about 1250 years.  The most recent cycle of the Midieval Warming (400 years) and the Little Ice Age (550 yrs) has lasted only about 950 years.  That would be a short cycle (if the cycles last approx. 1500 years), so we may still be at the tail end of the same cycle that included the Little Ice Age.  Similar to the way Cycle 23 sunspots keep occasionally showing up on the sun, even though NASA has officially declared the sun to be in Cycle 24 since January 2008.

OR, this could be it, the big one, the DEEP FREEZE!  Look at the tail end of that graph way over to the right (ignore the CO2 noise) and just imagine if the average temperatures were to keep dropping year after year.  Just a thought to warm Gabriel's heart while he is out decrying the warmth we enjoy now. 

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

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It seems to me that this

It seems to me that this sicko will only be happy if global warming is real. It is as if he looks forward to the death and destruction that his side is constantly predicting, instead of giving a sigh of relief that maybe this is all just a bunch of bunk and that we aren't all going to die in a big ball of fire afterall.

Personally, I'm irked too.

10 years ago, I bought property, on which I'm now living, 200 miles away from the Atlantic Ocean.  I was told by Algore and others that the polar ice caps probably would be mostly melted by now, and that at almost any time, I could be living on ocean front property where I now live.  Should I send Obama a request for a refund?  I'm still 200 miles from the coast, and frankly, I'm very disappointed.

Are You South Enough?

I hope your home is also about 200 miles or so south of Chicago.  Here's S. Fred Singer:

"Humans worry (perhaps excessively) when glaciers shrink but suffer dreadfully when they advance.  Picture a mile-thick glacier covering the area that is now the city of Chicago- something primitive human hunters might actually have seen during the 90,000 years of the last ice age."  -Reference: "Unstoppable Global Warming:  Every 1500 Years", updated and expanded edition, c. 2008, by S. Fred Singer and Dennis T. Avery, ch. 4 "The Earth Tells Its Own Story", pp. 69-70. 

Keep the home fires burning! 

"The future is not set.  There is no fate but what we make for ourselves."

michaelyon-online.com

 I don't  know if it is

 I don't  know if it is any consolation, but Obama would like to pay your mortgage for you (in exchange for your soul - I think that is the standard contract).

 

Obama:  "The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers." -Ed Mahmoud

Thermometer readings are so inconvenient ...

I have a simple solution.

Perhaps the global warming alarmists' next step should be to recalibrate our thermometers.

 Tg = 9/5 (Tc X 1.01) + 33

They could call the new measurements the "Gorescale" (Tg).

  

metaphorsbwithu

That "times" 1.01 should be

That "times" 1.01 should be times x where x = (1 + the last 3 digits of the year).

We need to adjust these numbers. And to make sure they keep going up.

ThatLimited Disclosure:  I used to belong to the Sierra Club untill they went crazier. Worse of all, I was bribed by Exxon with free New Orleans Saints glasses with fill ups in the 70's.

You are oh so right. :-D I

You are oh so right. :-D

I thought about putting a similar exponential increase into the equation, but I wasn't sure if anyone would "get" my formula as it is.

Thanks for restoring my faith in basic education, the human intellect, and for helping to prove there are still people with a sense of humor.

This guy should be happy

This guy should be happy that it's not boiling hot outside. You'd think they would claim the crisis is over and our problem is solved. But I think he just wants something to do.

By the way, how will we know when global warming has been tackled? I haven't heard any "exit strategy." There should be some sort of goal - like x number of years of not warming. I suppose 10 or 11 years isn't long enough.

Change the issue

He is so concerned about pushing his agenda that I'm sure he isn't even taking into account the times when the weather is somewhat near what it is supposed to be like.  He is not a scientist, he doesn't know the trends.  He needs to quit worrying about how recently global warming isn't working "like it's supposed to" and focus on a real issue that doesn't come and go.

Yeah, so what?  What are

Yeah, so what?  What are you going to do about it?

Congress has integrated both socialized medicine and cap and trade into the upcoming budget.  That means no debate about these two specific crucial items.  It means that when cap and trade is very likely to pass the congress and be signed into law.  It means that when it is fully instituted your energy bills will double or even triple from what they are today.  

Write your representatives and protest this nonsense.  Join your local, county and state Republican party groups.  Get organized.  Find out who the real conservatives are at your local, county, state, and federal level are in your state.   Then, promote their getting elected.  Start working toward turning this crap around in 2010.   

We just need three more Republicans that are actually conservative to twart most of the crap being proposed by the bambi, the first stupid liberal.  There are over 30 up for election in 2010.

Here is the list:  

Blanche Lincoln (Arkansas)
Barbara Boxer (California)
Ken Salazar (Colorado)
Daniel Inouye (Hawaii)
Barrack Obama's replacement chosen by the Governor of Illinois after
his resignation from the Senate in January to become President
(Illinois)
Evan Bayh (Indiana)
Barbara Mikulski (Maryland)
Harry Reid (Nevada)
Chuck Schumer (New York)
Byron Dorgan (North Dakota)
Ron Wyden (Oregon)
Patrick Leahy (Vermont)
Russ Feingold (Wisconsin)
Richard Shelby (Alabama)
Lisa Murkowski (Alaska)
John McCain (Arizona)
Mel Martinez (Florida)
Johnny Isakson (Georgia)
Mike Crapo (Idaho)
Chuck Grassley (Iowa)
Jim Bunning (Kentucky)
David Vitter (Louisiana)
Kit Bond (Missouri)
Judd Gregg (New Hampshire)
Richard Burr (North Carolina)
George Voinovich (Ohio)
Tom Coburn (Oklahoma)
Arlen Specter (Pennsylvania)
Jim DeMint (South Carolina)
John Thune (South Dakota)
Bob Bennet (Utah)
Kansas run, now filled by Sam Brownback, but incumbent won't seek re-election
Christopher Dodd (Connecticut)

If none of your senators are up for reelection in 2010, then send money to a candidate in a neighboring state or someone that you think deserves your money to help them get elected from whatever state they represent.

My Lord has an amazing sense of humor

Is there anything that proves God's sense of humor more completely than the fact that wherever Algore travels to spew his lies about GW, they have record low temps?   HA-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!  God si so much fun! 

 

 

The great Socio/Economic Experiments of the 20th cent. (communism, socialism, fascism) only killed a few hundred million.  Let's give 'em another try! - me

The global warming

The global warming jihadists are the same types who would have stretched Galileo and Copernicus on the rack until they recanted.

So much for "Liberal open-mindedness"...bunch of damn Left wing Nazis....grrrrrrr

One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).