Comedy is not pretty, especially if it is wielded as a clumsy hatchet by the Left to do their dirty work for them. Such is the case with the suggestion on the Daily Kos that satire could be used as a weapon to "take Limbaugh down." This is the comedy weapon post on this topic by the ironically named Kossack, FreeSociety:
Like it or not, Rush Limbaugh's elevation to icon status, by the right-wing-owned Corporate Radio Industry (which pre-dated the rise of Fox News) has been a serious problem for progressive politics, and also just basic accuracy in News Reporting.
Limbaugh's popularity (boosted by a right-wing Corporate environment, to which there is no "Left" equivalent), soared in the 1990s as Democrat Bill Clinton took office. While I disagree with some things Clinton did back then (NAFTA, complex HMO-style Health Care), the constant berating, distorting, and demeaning of Clinton by Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich, was successful in ending hopes of any oxygen for a progressive agenda, and in causing an uprising in the Electorate to vote in mass for the GOP in 1994.
...It is clear that Limbaugh is going to give Obama the "Clinton treatment" for the next 8 years, and worse, the GOP will in lockstep follow this same agenda and play the role of obstructionist to the core. It is clear that Obama counter-attacking Limbaugh, while helpful for his "base", will have no meaningful effect on this. It is clear that Democratic Party members counter-attacking Limbaugh, while evidence of "a pulse", will have no meaningful effect on this.
So how to counter Rush? Kossack FreeSociety gives us his laughable solution:
But one thing will: Humor/satire
Recall that the one time when Limbaugh faced a little dip in his popularity, and the Democrats unexpectedly averted losing more seats in 1996, and 1998, came after Al Franken's book "Rush Limbaugh Is A Big Fat Idiot" had gained significant public attention.
...So, the only way to take Rush Limbaugh down, is to "Tina Fey" him, or "Al Franken" him, relentlessly to the point where he becomes universally just a huge punch line so big, that even the GOP cannot be seen with him, or hold him up anymore as a figure of any credibility.
...The key here though, is that the satire has to be mainstream enough to reach a lot of people and go well beyond simply preaching to the choir. The "Tina Fey-Palin" dynamic provides the model for how political destiny can be dramatically altered, and how to fight back against the next bamboozling by the GOP.
Your Ideas?
My idea? I'm glad you asked. My idea is that comedy as a blunt instrument just doesn't work. The prime goal of good satire is to make people laugh and any "messages" are only secondary. By strange coincidence, your humble correspondent posted a satire earlier this morning on the DUmmie FUnnies before reading this "comedy as a weapon" post by this Kossack. It is also about Rush Limbaugh except it is about the attempts to remove him from the airwaves and/or marginalize him. So as a public service that satire is presented here for Kossack FreeSociety to show him how it should be done:
(It is early morning in the very recent past. A conference call which has become a daily ritual for over 15 years is taking place between White House Chief of Staff, Rahm Emanuel, James Carville, Paul Begala, and George Stephanopoulos of ABC's This Week.)
EMANUEL: #@$* YOU!!!
CARVILLE: How y'all doin'?
BEGALA: Good morning!
STEPHANOPOULOS: So what's the latest in talking points?
EMANUEL: #@$* LIMBAUGH!!!
CARVILLE: But Rush is just an entetaynah!
BEGALA: Wrong, James. Rush Limbaugh is more than an just an entertainer. He is a serious threat to our agenda.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So how should I present Rush this Sunday? As a harmless entertainer or as a threat to the nation?
EMANUEL: #@$* LIMBAUGH!!! I'm gonna send him a dead fish in the mail!
CARVILLE: If he is so much of a threat then just bring back the Fayness Doctrine to Hush Rush.
BEGALA: It can't be so obvious. We can't call it the Fairness Doctrine. Perhaps we can just repackage it in another name but with the same result...to get Rush off the air.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So I can say that the Fairness Doctrine won't be coming back this Sunday?
CARVILLE: Maybe we can kick off Hush Rush by removing him from Ahmed Forces Radio?
BEGALA: Good idea. The talking point will be that Rush, by attacking our beloved president, is sowing insubordination among the troops.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Slower so I can write down that talking point correctly.
EMANUEL: Rush Limbaugh...DEAD! Sean Hannity...DEAD! Laura Ingraham...DEAD! Michelle Malkin...DEAD! David Gergen...DEAD! ....Okay, just kidding about the last one.
CARVILLE: AHAHAHAHAHA!!! Who says you don't have a sense of humor, Rahm?
BEGALA: We have to neutralize Rush right now because we need some Republican support for our stimulus package.
CARVILLE: Yeah, that way if it fails, we can claim that Republicans voted for it too. Spread the blame around.
BEGALA: We can make Limbaugh the focal point of our attacks. Paint him as an extremist and suggest that Republicans shouldn't listen to him. Then when we get a few Republicans on our side with the stimulus vote, we can portray Limbaugh as irrelevant.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Should I make that just a plain extremist or right-wing extremist on Sunday's program? And should I wait until after the vote before claiming that Rush is irrelevant?
CARVILLE: This is a win-win situation for us. Rush loses his credibility and Republicans will become so frightened of being labeled as extremist that at least a few of them will come on board with the stimulus package. There is no way Rush can come out ahead on this.
STEPHANOPOULOS: But what if Rush finds out about this plan? And what happens if no Republicans in Congress support the stimulus package?
BEGALA: Not likely to happen. At least a few Republicans will support the package and how could Rush ever find out about our plan to marginalize him?
CARVILLE: Ah lahk it! We mahginalize Rush by claiming he is the spokesman for raght-wing extremism... Hey! Mary! How long y'all been standin' behind me?
EMANUEL: #^@$*!!!
BEGALA: Oops! We better sign off for today.
CARVILLE: Bye y'all!
STEPHANOPOULOS: So do you think it would be better if I refer to Rush Limbaugh as a spokesman for right-wing extremism or as a spokesperson for right-wing extremism? The latter sounds less sexist. Hello?...Hello?
And remember, Kossack FreeSociety, the key to good satire is to have a strong element of truth to it. Anger as a comedy motivation will only backfire on you. This concludes your satire lesson for today.
—P.J. Gladnick is a freelance writer and creator of the DUmmie FUnnies blog.



















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Heh
February 1, 2009 - 12:14 ET by StarAZLuckily, these people will not be wise enough to ignore him--so let the games begin--or should I say, continue. I don't think picking on his weight will do the trick.
The Democrats have almost
February 1, 2009 - 13:42 ET by shirtsbyericThe Democrats have almost removed the Republicans from public office so it is natural for them to go after Limbaugh next. But Rush won't try to beat them by becoming one of them.
they have used "comedy" as a
February 1, 2009 - 12:14 ET by notonmywatchthey have used "comedy" as a propaganidizing tool for many years, and it has been hugely effective
we were crying out for something like Newsbusters for years, but the main propaganda still goes unchecked - the stuff that's much harder to pin down in general TV viewing
Exactly Noton,
February 1, 2009 - 12:31 ET by UpNorthI recall one of the episodes of "How I Met Your Mother" on CBS, a hugely popular show. The actors never said a word about the war, but in the bar they hang out in, there was a poster on the wall, in full view every time someone walked by. It just said, "End the War, Bring the Troops Home". Subtle, but effective propaganda, foisted off on the gullible public as humor, with a social message.
So, yeah, comedy used as propaganda is used by the leftards every day. Fortunately, Rush is leagues above them in this, unfortunately he's only on radio, so a lot of that trash goes unchecked.
Free speech
February 1, 2009 - 12:21 ET by 10ksnookerAnd Democrats simply does not mix.The truth gets to Democrats.
"Truth gets to Democrats".
February 1, 2009 - 12:30 ET by KStorm"Truth gets to Democrats". Yeah, but it rarely stays.
→ Satire
February 1, 2009 - 12:22 ET by Cool ArrowWe couldn't make jokes about this big, fat, pork baby Nancy is punishing Obama with.
Obama Warns Colombia: "Keep My Powder Dry" Calls for return to Coke Classic.
Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country - Khalil Gibran
They do have comedy.
February 1, 2009 - 12:34 ET by superconIt can be found on MSNBC everynight.
It's interesting how they can remember the partisanship of the Clinton years but seem to overlook the the despicable nastiness from the left during the Bush years.
Because with a name like Obama... you know it has to be good.
→ Air America Strikes Back
February 1, 2009 - 12:37 ET by Cool ArrowWith Larry Sinclair perched in front of the Chiseled Microphone.
Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country - Khalil Gibran
Blunt instrument - Ed Shultz is Liberal's satirical Tina Fey
February 1, 2009 - 12:47 ET by DotcomanI always thought as a blunt instrument,and fat blathering idiot, Ed Shultz, was the Liberal Socialist Left's Tina Fey; when it came to attempting to satirize Rush Limbaugh. He's certainly a big enough woman for the role. How else do you explain that moron being on the air?
Ed's such a moron franken didn't even want him on Commie air America.
And what's up with P.J.
February 1, 2009 - 12:53 ET by DotcomanAnd what's up with P.J. Gladnick using the actual conference call transcript here, and trying to pass it off as satire?
HA!
February 1, 2009 - 12:58 ET by zhombreThe Kossacks are about as funny as a case of the shingles or a recurrent STD. They can't grasp the fact that Rush's immense popularity is attributable to his ability to be incisive, astute, articulate, entertaining, and satirical; that he owns the medium the radio, which was his chosen field of endeavor since high school. As usual, the left can never respect opponents, only denigrate, and the failure to admit that other people may have talent and substantive ideas contrary to their own cripples them in actually dealing with opposition.
Free speech to the left
February 1, 2009 - 13:05 ET by cocodrieFree speech to the left is like the "all you can drink for a dime" lemonade stand. When you want more the kid tells you "You drank all you can for one dime".
The liberals tell us "you are free to say anything you want but you can't say anything without our approval". Jesus Loves You
The shame of comedy bias
February 1, 2009 - 13:08 ET by slickwillie2001The real shame of liberal bias on SNL/Leno/Letterman etc (for a comedy fan) is not that they relentlessly attack conservative values and Republicans, but that they won't touch democratics and liberal values. Their possibilities for satire therefore are cut in half. There is so much material ready and waiting in Obammy, Pelosi, Reid, Gore, Clinton, Jefferson, Spitzer, McGreevey, Franken, Frank, Dodd, etc, etc, etc. The poster here has more or less written the script for an SNL routine, but we know it will never be done.
Rarely they will take on one of them like Blogo, but only after they have already self-destructed. Perhaps if the 'Fairness Doctrine' is reestablished, we can use it to force some balance in comedy writer staffs.
The left has been trying to
February 1, 2009 - 13:09 ET by lnthompThe left has been trying to "take Limbaugh down" for more than 20 years. Franken's Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Liar was so un-funny and so full of obvious lies, it didn't last very long. Making fun of his weight has never gotten very far. The big splash about his addiction to painkillers didn't have legs with most of America. Rush is a money-maker for radio stations all across the country. He's not going away any time soon.
Lee T. USN(ret)
This too shall pass.
I solemnly swear never to exceed the amount of power used by Al Gore.
Actually, I never expect to exceed, in a year, the amount of power Al Gore uses
in a month.
Illustrating absurdity with absurdity---
February 1, 2009 - 13:19 ET by Roscoe MendagoOkay, the leftists are going to take on Rush, good luck. Their crusade against him has been unsuccessful up to this point, indicating his refreshing conservative message is exactly what's needed.
I want to get this straight, scatological humor, feckless personal attacks, attacks based on falsehoods, attacks by humorless distortion mongers is now going to be the message of the day. Tell me how is that any different than anything in the past, that's the only message of the left. Rush tweaks the left by simply pointing out their stupidity, "illustrating absurdity with absurdity", and that is what make the left so irrational and angry.
If Rush attacking something such as a spending bill, vaguely disguised as a stimulus hoax, is a reason to "take him down", then the left reveal themselves as 1st amendment denying frauds.
If a humorless leftist ideology is the future of America, we are in a %#@%?! load of trouble!!!
Call ABC
February 1, 2009 - 13:20 ET by KimnotaThis is very funny and so close to what is going on. There is no excuse for George Stephanopoulos to be talking to Rahm Emanuel.
Here's some numbers I got from MRC to call at ABC. I and people I know already called and is seems like they are getting swamped. Don't know if ABC has acknowledged this problem yet.
George Stephanopoulos, Washington Chief Correspondent, ABC News
202-222-7700
David Westin (Stephanopoulos's boss), President ABC News 212-456-6200
Anne Sweeney (Westin's boss), Co-Chairman, Disney Media Networks 818-569-7700
The American Left is
February 1, 2009 - 13:43 ET by celatorThe American Left is notoriously flatfooted when it comes to humor. They routinely confuse fraternity-level cynicism with satire and humor. They vaguely understand their confusion, but can't seem to figure out how to correct the dilemma.
They seem to comprehend that sharp, witty humor is powerful and can quickly cripple pomposity and self-gratifying righteouness. They just can't figure out how to get there. The algorithms elude them.
Their latest decision to "be funny" to take down Rush is, in itself, ripe fruit for us to point out the inability of the Left to get traction in this arena. "All right, fellow leftists, beginning Wednesday at 10 am, we will become humorous to make our points. I'm talking FUNNY, here. You all have the 320-page manual in front of you. Take a deep breath everyone. Let's begin with the history of humor........"
And so forth.They just can't grasp the concept can they?
For liberal Democrats and the Old Media, everything is crisis, chaos, calamity and catastrophe. That justifies stealing your property and liberties.
"..the constant berating, distorting, and demeaning of Clinton"
February 1, 2009 - 13:46 ET by OxyConYou have to wonder if this DailyKos POS said this with a straight face, being that DailyPOS was one of the leading Liberal blogs which visciously savaged both Hillary and President Clinton (in the service of Obama) during the Democrat primaries.
Heck, DailyPOS member, MessNBC's own Keith Obamamann savaged and distorted the Clinton's worse than anyone on the right ever did.
Crying out for a poster!
February 1, 2009 - 13:49 ET by HelenSUncle SamBO wants YOU!
Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."
Here's your lesson for the day...
February 1, 2009 - 14:08 ET by JRJ08Limbaugh is no different from Howard Stern, Imus, or any other radio personality. He has a shtick that has made him rich. Alice Cooper put on face-paint and became the original punker. Harrison Ford put on a Fred C. Dobbs hat and became Indiana Jones. Arnold pumped iron and became governor of "Caleevorneea". Limbaugh put on a right-wing fascist Halloween costume (which now includes a pony-tail) and giggles all the way to the bank. No degree in economics or political science. In fact, not even a college diploma. Never served a day in the armed forces. Nobody, especially the dreaded "liberals", should take a word this blow-hard says seriously. It is all designed to keep his name in the news and his ratings bloated. So, Carville is dead right when he says that Rush is an "entetaynah". Unfortunately, a lot of people do take him seriously and actually use his act to form their opinions. PT Barnum was right.
Good evening JR
February 1, 2009 - 14:15 ET by cocodrieBarnum was right about the minute you were born. You soaked up the leftist kool-aid "real good".
Jesus Loves You
As anticipated...
February 1, 2009 - 14:25 ET by JRJ08This is all that you're capable of offering, isn't it. An unoriginal, parrot-like come-back blanching out of an old Hoover clogged with musty ideas that failed miserably. No introspection. No hint of uncertainty. No accountability. It is, sadly, not atypical of the posts on this website.
→ But seriously
February 1, 2009 - 14:29 ET by Cool ArrowMaybe you can tell us how this proposed package creates self sustaining jobs not dependent on government help.
Try to keep the cost under $250,000 per job.
Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country - Khalil Gibran
Nice string of words JR
February 1, 2009 - 14:34 ET by cocodrieIndividual success really upsets you left-wing extremists doesn't It?
Jesus Loves You
→ Thanks JRJ
February 1, 2009 - 14:18 ET by Cool ArrowAnd Jimmy Carter was in the Navy. Are you saying all Sailors are chickensh*ts like Jimmy Carter?
Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country - Khalil Gibran
"...No degree in economics
February 1, 2009 - 14:22 ET by HelenS"...No degree in economics or political science. In fact, not even a college diploma..."
Which just goes to show that what he can achieve through sheer native and instinctive brilliance, the left-wing apes can't cough up even after untold attempts to train them.
Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."
That was my thought too,
February 1, 2009 - 14:39 ET by motherbeltThat was my thought too, Helen.
It just bugs the heck out of this possibly college-educated, unemployed troll that Rush is earning money hand over fist.....
No college diploma
February 1, 2009 - 15:45 ET by sherylsimsis probably one of the reasons he can still think for himself.
And here is YOUR lesson for the year.
February 1, 2009 - 14:26 ET by Trix RabbitIt's so great when folks like you, Skippy, come out swinging. Most troll replies we get start out with a more sober tone and a lot of time gets wasted taking trolls seriously, even giving them the benefit of the doubt, until they say something that proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that they're merely having a temper tantrum.
You go, girl!
For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me. As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.
Ian Anderson "Wind up"
Seems funny, almost, every
February 1, 2009 - 15:01 ET by dmntd1Seems funny, almost, every time I hear the leftists in this country compare the conservatives to Fascists. Seems I recall that the original American Progressives practically worshipped at the altar of Mussolini, the generally accepted 'father of facsism'.
Remember, the German faction of Fascism, a/k/a Nazism, killed the unwanted (not unlike abortion), knelt at the altar of the green-movement (not unlike Gore/Greenpeace), paid fealty to the unions (not unlike the DNC), allowed corporations to operate, but restricted what they created and sold (not unlike the Democrat's recent attempt to order the Big Three automakers to create more hybrids in exchange for the 'bailout'). That doesn't even take into account the fact that the Fascists in Germany silenced free speech, not so much through the rule of law, but by disrupting the speeches (anyone thrown a pie at Ann Coulter lately?).
The parallels between today's leftists and yesteryears fascists are unmatched in the history of the US of A.
"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy." - Winston Churchill
PT Barnum was right. On
February 1, 2009 - 15:48 ET by fitzfongPT Barnum was right.
On what day were you born, sucker?
It's difficult to take an imbecile like you seriously. Your trite "observations" contain no substance, just your typical non sequiturs: lame cultural references and staggering ignorance packaged in an infantile post designed only to inflame. So, please, enlighten us with your "brilliance". What do you know about economics? You're off to a pretty bad start with your suggestion that Limbaugh's lack of a degree has any significance. By the way, Obama was the one who started this "controversy". Limbaugh has been talking about Obama's economic illiteracy and socialist objectives for a long time now...but only in the last week or two has the media shed any light on what Limbaugh has said about this socialist pork bill. Why? Because the limp-spined new President singled him out for criticism in his first week in office...telling Republicans not to listen to him. Why is That One so afraid of Rush Limbaugh? Can he not withstand criticism of his ignorant policies? Is he afraid that the public will catch on to the fact that he's merely a spoofer? You see, now that the afterglow of That One's election is over, people are coming to terms with the fact that he has to govern...the time for empty speeches and 24/7 campaigning is over. He no longer has the luxury of digging up opponents' divorce records to advance his career ambitions...he now has the world's top job, and he's clearly out of his depth.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Limbaugh is an ideological
February 1, 2009 - 18:32 ET by JRJ08Limbaugh is an ideological echo chamber without a single original thought of his own. He hides in his sound studio, spewing his 19th century rhetoric without any understanding of what he's talking about, and unwilling to talk to anybody he attacks face-to-face. You're marching in lock-step with the Village Idiot and proud of it, so your assessment of Obama's policies couldn't be less important. It's your kind of bull-headed stridency that is going to take down the GOP within the next 6 years. The rest of country moves on, facing problems rather than pointing fingers, while you throw a tantrum about the election.
It's fun reading the
February 1, 2009 - 19:53 ET by HumblepieIt's fun reading the dribble from the left. Just a question for you. Have you even listened to Rush or do you just rehash talking points from your party? More than once Rush has challenged your talking heads to a debate, no one has taken the challenge. Rush has even come up with a alternative stimulus plan which he would love to present to Obambi. Your only problem with Rush is that he uses facts which you can not deny, therefore proving his points.
Your statement of marching in lock-step with the village idiot, blah, blah, blah, take down the GOP within the next 6 years is laughable. Your blind devotion to your false god that you call Obambi will be the downfall of the DNC. Don't need no help from Rush for that.
So please, spare us the BS and start supporting the U.S. Constitution and the Right to Free Speech.
Quick! The gene pool needs more chlorine.
Nice job cutting and
February 1, 2009 - 23:55 ET by fitzfongNice job cutting and pasting lame ad hominems from DU, DK, Moveon.org, etc. "Echo chamber", "marching in lock-step", "Village Idiot", "throw a tantrum about the election"...all of these expressions were very clever...many years and many millions of uses ago. While you make vain attempts to insult your intellectual superiors by suggesting they lack original thought, you might want to take a good look in the mirror...provided the mirror could stand the stress. Your trite attacks are as sad as they are toothless. You haven't a clue what you're talking about...and I'm sure Bill Clinton and Harry Reid (as two of the more recent examples) would be bemused at your frankly ludicrous claim that Limbaugh's unwilling to talk to anybody he attacks face-to-face. So go ahead and stew in the juices of your ignorance and keep convincing yourself that you're intelligent and that you matter. Meanwhile the rest of us...you know, the productive sector...will go about navigating the problems this President is going to create with his silly wealth redistribution program packaged as "stimulus". And rest assured, we will do just fine because we're smarter than you (and that's damning us with faint praise).
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
JRJ08... I see you enjoy
February 2, 2009 - 00:04 ET by Clear thinkerJRJ08...
I see you enjoy the idea of a Marxist future!
Obama’s Super Bowl?
Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/
This
February 1, 2009 - 15:54 ET by nwahsYup. And the thing is Rush is personally friendly with a lot of those people on the other side of lunacy (Carville, Mathews et al).
Truth be known, Rush is a parody of Pat Buchanan and his Crossfire days.
Truth be known, Rush is a
February 1, 2009 - 16:06 ET by fitzfongTruth be known, Rush is a parody of Pat Buchanan and his Crossfire days.
How long did it take you to spitball that lame non sequitur? Your continual posts relating to Limbaugh have betrayed a bitterness bolstered by ignorance. You seem to have an obsession with proving to everyone how little you know about the subject you speak. What gives?
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Mega dittos
February 1, 2009 - 19:51 ET by nwahsMega dittos
Word Salad
February 1, 2009 - 20:57 ET by thebutlerdiditit's what the trolls eat for lunch. Yikes. Please go take your Lithium, obviously you skipped a dose.
Bringing the government in to run Wall Street is like saying, "Dad burned the dinner, let's get the dog to cook." PJ O'Rourke
JRJ
February 2, 2009 - 15:38 ET by CobraManJRJ,
You left out one important detail, and that's the fact that Rush is SUCCESSFUL at his chosen profession, despite not following the liberal guidebook of requiring a college degree in order to form a "legitimate" opinion and/or to express oneself eloquently and in a manor that reacts favorably with the general public.
Here's how you should describe him:
Face it, buddy, you're JEALOUS that Rush has become EXTREMELY successful without having to follow the liberal necessity of achieving a liberal arts college degree in order to "legitimize" that success. Oh, how that must burn you, right to your liberal core!
Obama: My job is above my pay grade
"It is clear that Limbaugh
February 1, 2009 - 14:20 ET by R D Helm"It is clear that Limbaugh is going to give Obama the "Clinton treatment" for the next [8] years,.."
LOL-Optimistic little turds, aren't they.
The kook-fringe left has been saying they are going to "bring Limbaugh down" since the day after his show went national. He is still on the air.
As for the left having no equivalent, what the hell do these mindless wonders call ABCNBCCBSCNNCNBCMSNBCPBSNPR?
BTW-Marxism is not progressive, but regressive.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
God Forbid
February 1, 2009 - 14:39 ET by pbthinkerGod forbid the liberals actually go out there and debate ideas. I'd like to see one occasion where liberals were willing to debate ideas and won. I've seen many times when Liberals demonized ideas and won, but not debated in a fair and open debate.
Without the liberal media, liberals wouldn't be able to pass legislation, such as they passed through the House this week. If they had to debate this bill, in an open forum, and justify all the pork in there, they'd be voted out of office. The press is covering for them and will only bring the foolish parts of this bill to light if someone like Limbaugh points them out first. Republicans would be glad to point them out, but the media will never report it. Rush points them out and 20 million Americans have heard it, before the MSM decides how it's going to spin it.
Hey Liberals, want to debate Limbaugh and defeat him on the field of play? Nah, I know you don't!
Election 2008-God's way of showing us that elections count.
Do they never learn history?
February 1, 2009 - 14:45 ET by AFCloneWhat happened when NBC cancelled Ann Coulter?
I'm surprised the kossacks
February 1, 2009 - 14:46 ET by wiwfI'm surprised the kossacks know what the word "accuracy" means!
The Rocky Mountain Collegian: Illustrating Idiocy
Obviously, they don't
February 1, 2009 - 15:12 ET by fitzfongObviously, they don't know.
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
The short answer to that
February 1, 2009 - 14:50 ET by Trix RabbitThe short answer to that question is no. For their much touted intelligence, liberals don't read history books. Propaganda, yes, but history no.
For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me. As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.
Ian Anderson "Wind up"
No, they read history books
February 1, 2009 - 14:59 ET by AFCloneTheir version, which is propaganda and limited truth. Cults are not started on lies...they are started on half-truths.
Too bad Cecil B DeMille
February 1, 2009 - 14:58 ET by cocodrieToo bad Cecil B DeMille is gone. He could remake The Ten Commandments and cast Carville as the devil. Carville wouldn't need any make-up or a script.
Jesus Loves You
Remember when Rush
February 1, 2009 - 16:00 ET by nwahsRemember when Rush Limbaugh went to James and Carville Mary Madeline's wedding in New Orleans? And yes, he is an "entatayna".
Its a kick that he's actually friends with a lot of those folks that publicly bash him, hence promote him.
Hey, genius. It's Mary
February 1, 2009 - 16:20 ET by fitzfongHey, genius. It's Mary Matalin. I didn't realize that Limbaugh was required to bunker himself up and not attend a friend's wedding because he differs politically from the groom. Thanks for enlightening us on that. I guess that also means that the Clintonoids who attended the wedding shouldn't have gone because Matalin publicly "bashed" them. And I guess Matalin and Carville shouldn't have married in the first place because they publicly bash each other. Hell, John McCain remains friends with a lot of people who bashed him publicly (John Kerry, Chris Matthews, Hillary Clinton, etc.). So what's your point?
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Satirists or Losers-Elect
February 1, 2009 - 15:22 ET by klchadwickIf Left Wing satire is so terrific, then why is Al "Stuart Smalley" Franken fighting for his political life in MN? Norm Coleman even had to concede that had it been any Dem other than Franken running against him, he would have lost outright. Every time Franken attempts to marginalize those that disagree with him through satire, he ends up promoting that opponent not diminishing them.
Also, if Left Wing satire is so humorous and effective, why has Air America undergone many changes in management along with filing bankruptcy? One would think that it would be smashing success and not a dismal failure.
Kos Kids funny?
February 1, 2009 - 17:26 ET by pgrossjrHave you ever read anything that was funny on the Daily Kos? Intentionally funny?
Kos should be careful about
February 1, 2009 - 17:44 ET by nadadhimmiKos should be careful about attacking Limbaugh with satire. Limbaugh is a past master at satire and his parodies and sarcastic bits are very funny because they contain the kernal of truth to attack his subjects. His and Paul Shanklins " In the Ghetto" parody song " In a Yugo", is incredibly funny and cogent, complete with an excellant Elvis imitation
I know the Left accuses the Right of having no sense of humor
February 1, 2009 - 18:40 ET by katiejanebut they fail to understand that their sense of humor is juvenile and frat boy stuff.
They can sing to their choir but do they honestly think anyone but other loons on the Left will agree with them?
That's not funny, katiejane
February 1, 2009 - 18:52 ET by JerThat's not funny, katiejane. ;-)
Jer
what's funny
February 1, 2009 - 21:12 ET by candanceHere we have a major lefty blog bragging about the fact that there was a focused effort to turn Sarah Palin into a punchline - and mere paragraphs away they are whining about Rush Limbaugh turning someone into a punchline....
Dissent is the truest voice of patriotism, except when it hinders a Democrat.
The only thing worse
February 1, 2009 - 21:19 ET by nwahsThe only thing worse than liberals taking Rush seriously is GOP leaders taking Rush seriously. Now I think Rush is a wonderful act and can tweak the noses of liberals like no one else can. But If ever GOP leaders glean their policy from Rush rantings, I will streak and bellow like a banshee!Well that or complain :)
why shawn backwards?
February 1, 2009 - 21:31 ET by candanceRush has the nerve to publicly speak the minds of the silent majority who don't like the bailout? Rush has the nerve to disagree with Obama?
Dissent is the truest voice of patriotism, except when it hinders a Democrat.
candance... I only
February 1, 2009 - 21:47 ET by Jercandance...
I only occasionally tune in Rush, breaking the pledge to myself that I would never listen to another utterance by the man after he publicly accused Clinton of murder about a decade ago.
Out of curiosity, does Rush agree or disagree with Obama's appointment and retention of Republicans in his administration, or does he no longer consider said appointees and retainees to be Republicans. And, does Rush agree with Obama's efforts at bi-partisanship, political conciliation, and making concessions or does he consider it all to be phony and devious?
Jer
yes jer
February 1, 2009 - 22:00 ET by candanceOf course Rush believes that Barack "I won" Obama is being phony. I believe the same thing. He throws the free birth control out of the bailout and has personal meetings with people, all the while with them screaming "no bailout!" and that's supposed to be bipartisan.
Imagine if George Bush had tried to push through a federal ban on abortion. Forget the legal details for a moment and just go with me. Now let's say Democrats are screaming that this is not negotiable and they won't get on board. So Bush makes a few concessions and then asks if it's good enough. Still the Dems say no. Then he goes around whining because he was nice to them and everything but those stubborn people didn't listen.
That's Obama's version of being bipartisan.
Dissent is the truest voice of patriotism, except when it hinders a Democrat.
I see, candance...
February 1, 2009 - 22:45 ET by JerThen you apparently are unaware of Obama's more recent statements and efforts. I'll try to link them for you.
In the meantime, what about my second question? Or does the phoniness label apply to it also?
Jer
well Jer
February 1, 2009 - 22:51 ET by candanceLike most of us he's waiting to see what happens with those people. Time can only tell if they continue to act like Republicans or not.
If you have links of Obama seriously compromising I would like to see them.
Dissent is the truest voice of patriotism, except when it hinders a Democrat.
candance...
February 1, 2009 - 23:32 ET by Jercandance...
I had already posted this link, so you may have read the article . But, there are one or two more I've seen in just the past couple of days which detail further plans for compromise on the heels of the House Democratic version--which I agree needs some revamping--passing with zero GOP support. There is a NYT article which examines this from the perspective of the Republican and Democratic senatorial leadership, but I'm still looking for the recent one about Obama which I actually had in mind.
Jer
Shawn front ways was taken
February 1, 2009 - 21:59 ET by nwahsRush is good at what he does, but remember he is just an act. Consider, he makes absolutely NO allowances for feminism. No one is that archaic. Surely you know that. He's a parody.
and?
February 1, 2009 - 22:02 ET by candanceRush makes no allowance for feminism? Why? Because he thinks modern feminism is stupid? So do I.
Dissent is the truest voice of patriotism, except when it hinders a Democrat.
No,
February 1, 2009 - 22:08 ET by nwahsHe "thinks" ANY feminism is stupid. More accurately he plays like ANY feminism is stupid - an old dice clay act. You can't possibly take him serious. How in the world can you talk policy legitimately if you have a Taliban view of women?
taliban???
February 1, 2009 - 22:12 ET by candanceRush has a taliban view of women? He thinks a rape victim should be put in prison? He thinks women should cover their faces and always have a male escort in public? He thinks it's acceptable for men to beat their wives?
This discussion is over.
Dissent is the truest voice of patriotism, except when it hinders a Democrat.
No his act
February 1, 2009 - 22:16 ET by nwahsHis act is they are neurotic and basically a frat boy play thing. If his musings on women don't clue you in he's an act and not a thinker, all I can say is mega dittos to you.
no
February 1, 2009 - 22:17 ET by candanceHow in the world can you talk policy legitimately if you have a Taliban view of women?
That's what you said. Not frat boy.
Dissent is the truest voice of patriotism, except when it hinders a Democrat.
nwahs, hop off to 911 truther land, from hence you came..
February 1, 2009 - 22:23 ET by upcountrywateryou will fit in much better there.
All I can say is Hope and Change to you.
FREEDOM
nwahs is a (D)
Typical response for disagreement here
February 1, 2009 - 22:27 ET by nwahsYour response for disagreement is typical - "leave."
When did thinkers get so damn whinny and pink skirt girly? "You don't agree - please leave"
Arf arf, shawn
February 1, 2009 - 22:40 ET by choselife3xSTILL not rain. Might want to try the manly bellow right about now. ;)
(I've only listened to Rush a few times, so I don't know what he has said, but I think feminism is stoopid.)
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
nwahs, you seem soo un happy here.
February 1, 2009 - 22:41 ET by upcountrywaterConfused and all, I was just trying to help you..
geez i was just tring to pick a site that more suited to your "thinking"..
No good deed goes unpunished.
FREEDOM
(D)
§ Ummm..nwahs..Describe Olbermann to me??
February 1, 2009 - 22:54 ET by TheSterI'm curious to hear you opinion of him...
Ster.
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
I did a few days back
February 1, 2009 - 22:59 ET by nwahsI did a few days back, but Ann Coulter's was better. I described him as Max Headroom ( remember that- 70's or early 80's I think). Coulter's " a 57 year old woman in a man's body" was much better :)
bass-ackward shawn, perhaps if the GOP had listened to Rush...
February 1, 2009 - 22:45 ET by R D Helm...then just maybe they wouldn't be sucking hind tit in the halls of congress.
-Dave
Our clueless political leaders are about to drive us all over a cliff. The time to HITM is now-before we go over.
What has Rush done for conservatives lately?
February 1, 2009 - 23:03 ET by nwahsIn what ways has Rush helped conservatives lately? Please don't point to that age old "honorary member of congress" thing as that is about as legitimate as the "EIB Network."
§Nwahs..U silly LIBERAL..Wrong Question!
February 1, 2009 - 23:11 ET by TheSterReal Question: What have Republicans done for conservatives lately??
Got another Question or just another SNARKY Comment??
Waiting...
Ster.
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
Yea, I have another question
February 1, 2009 - 23:21 ET by nwahsWho's influence would better serve conservatives and why, Limbaugh or George Will?
Limbaugh. He reaches a
February 1, 2009 - 23:27 ET by NL207Limbaugh. He reaches a far larger audience, far more frequently.
Will is muzzled by his cooperation with a media culture that has long since abandoned any semblence of journalistic integrity and allied itself with what I can only describe as the enemies of freedom. Will, although syndicated is not a daily staple in any of the major newspapers that take his feed. The MSM editorial operatives 'gate' his access.
In contrast, Limbaugh can say what he wants and is available on a near daily basis.
So loudness trumps reason
February 1, 2009 - 23:36 ET by nwahsSo basically carny barking trumps tact and reason?
§ Nwahs...we are talking about Rush...Not Olbermann!!
February 1, 2009 - 23:40 ET by TheSterTry and keep focused??
Rush Derangement Syndrome??
Ster.
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
No, I like Rush
February 1, 2009 - 23:46 ET by nwahsI don't have contempt for Rush- I like what he does. I get worried when people say they're going to look up "House" (Hugh Laurie)for a medical consultation, especially if those people are connected to me ( as are conservatives).
nwahs
February 1, 2009 - 23:55 ET by botgWhen you say "carney barking trumps tact and reason" you insinuate Rush is a carney barker devoid of fact and reason. Now when you say "I don't have contempt for Rush- I like what he does" you are saying you like 'carney barking devoid of fact and reason' as political discourse.
I say that's foolish
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
§Botg...LOL!!!!
February 1, 2009 - 23:58 ET by TheSterNice Logic!
Ster.
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
Guilty
February 2, 2009 - 00:09 ET by nwahsYes sometimes I prefer carny barking over thinking and candy over a steak. I don't think the GOP should live and die with carny barking.
I don't see the problem or why thats foolish.
§ nwahs...Why do you care what the GOP does?
February 2, 2009 - 00:17 ET by TheSterAre you one of those "Objective" journalists on Hardball, Olbermann, or CNN that gives advice to Republicans?
Ster.
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
§ Nwahs...Answer...
February 1, 2009 - 23:31 ET by TheSterRush: He is a true Conservative. Small Govt. Low Taxes. Freedom.
Ster.
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
nwahs, both would be fine,, you want to make it a "fairness"
February 1, 2009 - 23:34 ET by upcountrywaterissue?
nwahs, you know NOTHING about what conservatism is.
Capitalism has made the choice..
Typical lib/progressive response, George been around longer, blah blah/ no fair...
FREEDOM
(D)
Who's influence would better serve conservatives
February 1, 2009 - 23:39 ET by JerThat's easy. Will's should, by a wide margin. Unfortunately, Limbaugh is more influential, by a wide margin.
Jer
NEVER TRUST
February 1, 2009 - 23:42 ET by choselife3xA man in a bow tie. :-O
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
George Will is so
February 1, 2009 - 23:44 ET by Clear thinkerGeorge Will is so yesterday!
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George Will is so
February 1, 2009 - 23:55 ET by JerGeorge Will is so yesterday!
But isn't that where conservatives wish to return--the utopian days before the evils of liberalism came along and screwed up everything?
Jer
Only Liberals believe in Utopia
February 2, 2009 - 17:51 ET by choselife3xConservatives believe in making the best of what life hands out.
You going to tell us that the standards of society as a whole have not seriously degenerated in the last 40 years?
Divorce rates? Murder rates? Juvenile crime? Rape, robbery and assault? Have those stats gone up or down since the rise of the 'moral relativism' embraced by Liberals?
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
nice try jer,
February 1, 2009 - 23:50 ET by porpoiseboybut even if i bought the argument that will is a better conservative influence than rush, i could give you a double handful of liberals on the air ( olberwsuus, chrissy mathews, etc, ad nauseum ) who seem to have way more sway on the left than their miniscule insight and intellects would dictate that they should.
will is level headed, thoughtful, insightful...unfortunately to be a leader in any cause one also needs to motivate and inspire. you might get a bit of that from will's writing, but not in person.
"Here comes the orator! With his flood of words, and his drop of reason" Ben Franklin
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left
No one
February 1, 2009 - 23:54 ET by nwahsNo one on the liberal side is asking Olbermann to write their manifesto. That would be as stupid as the GOP looking toward Rush. I'm afraid they are.
§ nwahs...YOU CAN"T BE SERIOUS?!?!?
February 2, 2009 - 00:09 ET by TheSterYou ever read Huff Post, Kos, Democratic Underground...I do!!
Wanna take a wild guess where Olberdink gets his stories??
Media Matters!!
Test this for me?? Get on Media Matters.com a couple hours before Olbydorf starts his show....count how many stories he takes off that site!!!
I DARE YOU!!
Ster.
My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives.
Yes and we are in disarray
February 1, 2009 - 23:50 ET by nwahsYou're right and does that account for the disarray? I'm serious. Rush is at the height of his popularity and the Republican party is in shambles.
all that means shawnbackwards
February 2, 2009 - 00:00 ET by porpoiseboyis that one does not have anything to do with the other. from the conclusion you try to draw from two unrelated circumstances....i take it you think carbon dioxide ( the stuff plants breathe ) is pollution, don't you?
"Here comes the orator! With his flood of words, and his drop of reason" Ben Franklin
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left
Rush is at the height of
February 2, 2009 - 00:00 ET by Clear thinkerRush is at the height of his popularity and Conservatives are at their height of disgust with the GOP.
The Republican party had better get it's act together fast because the Obama machine may make the GOP obsolete very soon. Read this to see what I'm getting at... Obama’s Super Bowl?
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Account for the disarray?
February 2, 2009 - 00:04 ET by JerTo some extent. I simply wish the serious intellects of the principal ideologies were the main show, and the partisan loudmouths--left and right--were the sideshow.
Jer
jer no offense intended.....but
February 2, 2009 - 00:08 ET by porpoiseboyhow about if we conservatives pick our leaders and inspirations..... and candidates for that matter. the conservatives let the independants ( including many fairly left leaning ones ) have too much sway in picking our last candidate .........and we got mccain. so if you don't mind, we'll take it from here. if we would have listened to limbaugh and coulter we would most likely have fielded a better candidate. especially a better candidate for us.
"Here comes the orator! With his flood of words, and his drop of reason" Ben Franklin
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left
No offense taken, porpoiseboy...
February 2, 2009 - 00:24 ET by JerNo offense taken, porpoiseboy...but the Republican party was perfectly free to choose a nominee from a wide and ideologically disparate field of candidates. McCain won, fair and square. I certainly didn't interfere. [The only major co-ordinated interference was Rush and his "Operation Chaos" aimed at Democrats.]
On a personal note, I stated here several times during the pre-convention campaigns I would vote for either Romney or Guiliani over Hillary. So, I'm not quite sure what infraction I'm being [gently] scolded for. My personal opinion that Will would serve as a better mentor/guru for conservatives and the Republican party is just that: my personal opinion.
Jer
i know jer, i just get a kick out of
February 2, 2009 - 00:32 ET by porpoiseboyboth our sides when we counsel the other on who would best serve that side to get their message out..(and mentor, etc). even when the reasoning seems well thought out. you see, if i thought like you i wouldn't be a conservative...and vice versa for you.
cheers....i am out until next time
"Here comes the orator! With his flood of words, and his drop of reason" Ben Franklin
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left
Talk to ya later, ppb.
February 2, 2009 - 00:56 ET by JerTalk to ya later, ppb.
Jer
shawn "frontwards" is confused enough
February 1, 2009 - 23:28 ET by porpoiseboypally.....rush has a public podium that he uses to constantly and consistantly deliver back to us what many of us conservative say we are about. it is great to have a consistant gutcheck to keep one honest with ones self. what else is he supposed to DO for us? what do you want want your favorite big time liberal nationwide "talking head" to do for you?.....oops, sorry. i forgot there aren't any of substance. oooooh, now i get it. bad case of "talk radio envy", huh? poor kid.
"Here comes the orator! With his flood of words, and his drop of reason" Ben Franklin
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left
Memo to Kossacks: Rush already laughs at himself.
February 1, 2009 - 21:45 ET by tomchrisAnd this pathetic bid to fight Limbaugh with character assassination, oops, "satire," is a moldy oldie from the leftist handbook. Rush is not called the " Babe Ruth of Talk Radio" for nothin'. He's one of those rare American originals (like Howard Stern) who came into a medium, broke the rules and invented new ones. Rush's brilliance comes from his braggadocio shtick ("I am the Doctor of Democracy!" "I am America's Anchorman!") tempered with an obvious humility. It's a magic elixir that has worked for two decades and cannot be easily mocked. Remember, Don Imus tried to lampoon Limbaugh years ago and it fell flat time and time again.
Also, Kossacks, bone up on your stealth. It's dumb to announce your full strategy on the world wide web where it will picked apart like a Thanksgiving turkey from sites such as this (and, perhaps, Limbaugh on his next show). Marx and Lenin would not be proud.