Bloated Ego Media Divas Who Refuse to Appear With Other Guests


A holiday change of pace from your humble correspondent here. Instead of taking a non-political article and looking for a political theme, I am taking this Slate article about political media divas who refuse to appear with other guests and transferring it to a non-political pet peeve of mine...people in the entertainment industry who have such bloated egos that they never appear on a show with other guests. Nowadays this means almost everybody in the entertainment business. However, check out this video from almost 40 years ago. It features Bob Hope, Dean Martin, and George Gobel together on the Johnny Carson show. All major celebrities at the time and they had no problem sharing the same interview couch. Nowadays it would be almost impossible for something like this to happen which is why such talk shows have become incredibly boring. Mostly they consist of solo performances by celebrities pitching their latest project.

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What got me started on this was this Slate article about political types who won't appear together on TV:

The biggest offenders are usually the ones whose egos are too big to accommodate any company: Henry Kissinger, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Alexander Haig, and others who figure they have better uses for their time than debating some flack on the air. "They would only go on if they could do the show alone," says a former producer for Crossfire. "Brzezinski won't debase his cable currency by being a two-box," explained a current booker, referring to the practice of displaying guests on a split screen. Another booker cited Brzezinski's refusal to go on with Pat Buchanan—"probably because he thinks he's an anti-Semite." (An assistant to Brzezinski says: "It isn't true that he will only appear alone. He has appeared many, many times with other guests." Maybe so. But bookers say he doesn't do so willingly.)

Senators also tend to be finicky when it comes to sharing air time. Such was the case during the Democratic National Convention, when Sen. Chuck Schumer threw a fit upon learning that he would have to appear on The O'Reilly Factor with Clinton lawyer Lanny Davis. (Schumer had been told he'd be appearing alone.) When Davis refused to back down—"Unless Roger Ailes calls me personally, I'm doing the show"—they appeared together.

 The food chain continues. Senators don't go on with members of the House, who in turn won't appear with anyone other than elected officials of their rank or higher. So why did Howard Dean refuse to debate his Republican counterpart, RNC Chairman Ken Mehlman, on the Today show in 2006? Host Meredith Vieira called Dean out on the air. Part of the reason was simply airtime, a Democratic spokeswoman explained; you can't say as much when you're on with someone else. But it's also a stature issue. Both were chairman of their respective parties, but Dean was a former governor while Mehlman was simply a former campaign manager (albeit a victorious one—something Dean didn't have on his résumé). "You don't want to put your boss on with Joe Schmo," the spokeswoman said while stressing that she was not comparing Mehlman to Mr. Schmo.

Yeah, it does bother me a bit when political types refuse to appear on the air together but pardon me for getting more worked up about showbiz figures who insist that they must be interviewed solo. It drains any energy that might have been present if they had to interact with other people. Unfortunately, celebrity egos nowadays are such that they wouldn't tolerate the situation that you saw in the Johnny Carson show video. Oh, and watch for Dean Martin furtively tapping cigarette ash into the drink of a completely unaware George Gobel. 

—P.J. Gladnick is a freelance writer and creator of the DUmmie FUnnies blog.


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PJ, you know what's sad

That today's diva-driven left-wing fascist celebritards DO NOT EVEN KNOW WHO George Gobel, Dean Martin, Bob Hope and Johnny Carson are!

 

For the record Gobel was a comedian/singer known as one of the regulars on The Hollywood Squares in the 1970's.  He usually appeared in the bottom left corner of the grid, giving a salute when he is introduced.  His famous catchphrase, "Well I'll be a dirty bird."  He was nicknamed Lonesome George.  And in the clip you just mentioned,Gobel gave his famous tuxedo, brown shoes gag.

 

 

The Constitution is NOT a conspiracy theory and the founding fathers are NOT conspiracy theorists!

For the record Gobel was a

For the record Gobel was a comedian/singer known as one of the regulars on The Hollywood Squares in the 1970's.

Thanks for clearing that up.  I thought he was that Nazi propaganda guy.

Jer

Germany's redoubtable Reich

Germany's redoubtable Reich Minister of Public Enlightenment  [the Nazis made up such cool titles for their thuggery] was Dr. P. Joseph Goebbels, most certainly not to be confused with entertainer George Gobel.

Also NL... I didn't

Also NL...

I didn't particularly care for Goebbels style of standup comedy--much too dark.  Maybe a flat top would have helped. 

Jer 

I'm old enough to have seen

I'm old enough to have seen the first broadcast of that Tonight Show episode. Hope would actually interrupt Johnny interviewing a guest by just popping in anytime he wanted, he was that big a star. Usually it was on a break when he was also taping his show at a nearby NBC studio. This was at a time when NBC had Johnny, Dean, and Bob all under contract back in the 60's.

I think Gobel knew what Dean was doing, but didn't let on about it just for the laughs. He also uttered that all time classic line that brought the house down.

 

Start each day with a smile, then get it over with. - W.C. Fields

Yes, we old farts...

who have been around long enough to have seen that show live all miss Johnny Carson.  Leno, Letterman and all the rest aren't fit to carry Johnny's luggage.

I have watched that clip many times on YouTube recently.  Just search for Johhny Carson and you'll get all the great clips.  Someone must have bought the DVD box set and put a lot of it on YouTube.  Great stuff.

Also, search for Dean Martin Roasts...some really hillarious clips of those shows from the 70's.  Don Rickles is a riot.  And all of them say things that would get them banned from TV today.  Political Correctness has ruined this country...along with every other liberal idea that's been tried. 

→ Jarhead

My sides never hurt so bad as when Ed Ames demonstrated tomahawk throwing.

  • LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

Cool,

I didn't see that live, but I have seen clips of it since.

It was the funniest thing I have ever seen. The first time I saw it, I had tears in my eyes from laughing so hard.

-Dave

And Gobel smoking a

And Gobel smoking a cigarette during the interview, on stage, in the building, in California.

Ohhhh the horror!

And talking about his wife

And talking about his wife Spooky Alice.

coco... I'm roaring with

coco...

I'm roaring with laughter here...I thank you so much, I had forgotten all about Spooky Alice!

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

The Good Old Days

I miss the days of watching Bob Hope entertaining the troops all over the world. His Christmas specials were the best, too.

The comedians of today will never match the talent during the era of Carson, Martin, Hope, Gleason, and the rest. I miss the good old days.

Worried... YOU are not

Worried...

YOU are not alone....not in the least.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

I miss Carnac the

I miss Carnac the Magnificent.

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George

really does NOT get the credit he deserves.  I used to watch network TV comedy shows all the time and can remember only one time when I absolutely lost control, just giggled for at least ten minutes.  That was during a George Gobel show when he had Mickey Rooney as his guest.  Both were perfect comic actors. 

 OTOH, I eschew all network TV today.  I've not watched a minute other than golf in the last two decades and from what I read, I'm missing nothing but raunchy horror, and lying views pretending to be news.

I saw this episode when it

I saw this episode when it originally aired. I'm so glad that someone brought it back. I missed some of the original because I was laughing so hard. Every person in this video was a Giant in the buisiness. Today we have NO political or comedic talent.

Thanks for posting the clip!

Thanks for posting the clip! There were some reat, classy folks in Hollywood back then. I think it's a riot that everyone is smoking, and drinking? Things weren't as uptight, politically correct, and people didn't walk around angry and mean all the time. Carson was the penultimate. I can't stand the thought of watching Letterman, Leno, Conan, etc. They are just extensions of the rest of the broadcasts lineup of biased folks. So much for entertainment! I remember that I used to sneak and stay up on school nites just to watch Johnny.

I Still Miss Johnny

I guess I always will. I had a very definite bedtime when I was a kid, especially during the school year. In the summer months, I went to bed a little later but still before "The Tonight Show" aired. I used to sneak out of my bedroom and crawl down the hallway and lay just outside of the living room and listen while my parents watched "Johnny." I loved his monologue. I used to fall asleep laying there in the hallway.

As I got older mom and dad would let me stay up late in the summer, so I watched "The Tonight Show" with them. We lived in the South and didn't have air conditioning, so a lot of times I was up that late waiting for the house to cool off enough to go to sleep (I know it's hard to believe that there was that kind of heat in the days before global warming).

Years later, I heard my mother telling a story to a neighbor about finding me asleep in the hall all the time. She was baffled by it, thought I sleepwalked. She got a laugh when I told her I was listening to Johnny Carson's monologue.

I always watched the guests on Carson's show. I've never watched the guests on Letterman's or Leno's shows. They're interviews are boring or a bunch of discombobulated political rhetoric. In the past six or seven years I've quit watching those shows completely.

By the way, I'm almost completely Hollywood illiterate these days. I have a tough time picking out famous people, especially if they're not from Kentucky. I know that sounds kind of "hickish," but that's how I am. I only know some of the "famous" Kentuckians because it's impossible not to. For instance, Ashley Judd is one of the finest pieces of eye candy I've ever seen -- I've met her personally -- but she's a nitwit when it comes to politics.

Heck, I find myself watching infomercials selling DVDs of old Dean Martin and Johnny Carson shows, but I wouldn't watch a second of the modern shows. Even though I was a kid when those shows aired (I was an adult and in a profession when Johnny retired), I can still name all the celebrities from those eras. Today, outside of Ashley Judd I'm clueless.

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George Gobel was Great

I remember seeing this show and the laughter was great.  Still stays on my mind.

"Don't let the bastards grind you down."

Red

Class vs

Crass

Carson was Classic

I, too, saw this show when it originally aired.  It was hysterical, which was par for the course on the Tonight Show in those days.  The biggest stars in the business would just come out and be themselves without all the self-promotion and policial overtones we see today.  To this day, I can't tell you where Johnny Carson was on the political spectrum.  He did political humor, but without the left wing edge all of the shows have today.  Seeing these old shows demonstrates how empty and childish celebrities are today.

George Gobel...

Always remarked that during WWII, no Japanese plane got past Tulsa while he was flight instructor in Oklahoma.

Just seen a clip with him with Tennessee Ernie Ford, who is incredibly funny, on YouTube. Talent is hard to find anymore. 

Would love to see a TV show or movie that is extremely funny without using sexual innuendos, toilet jokes, or political potshots. It's possible. Benny Hill used sex sparingly, and Monty Python used toilet and sex stuff brilliantly.

Sadly, toilet and d*ck jokes are more or less crutches for those who claim to be comedy geniuses, like Jon Stewart.

He may be left-of-center, but Steven Wright doesn't resort to such crass material and still manages to make me laugh my ass off.

 

2010: A GOP Hill

Another funny Carson moment...

One of the times Johnny had some zoo animals on the show, a hyena was included.  The handler explained that both hyena genders are born with a penis, then the penis falls off of the female later on.

A few minutes later, Johnny observed that the hyena was sitting on its knees, to which Ed McMahon replied "If your penis fell off, you would be on your knees, too."

Buchanan and Brzezinski

Another booker cited Brzezinski's refusal to go on with Pat Buchanan—"probably because he thinks he's an anti-Semite."

That's odd...I have seen Dr. Brzezinski and Buchanan together twice on Morning Joe in just the past few weeks.  Both appeared comfortable.  Maybe it was a favor to his daughter.

Jer