Robert F. Kennedy, Jr: Innocent ACORN Defrauded by ACORN Workers

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This is just too funny! Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. has been on a vote fraud shtick for at least two years ever since he began writing about how the Republicans "stole" the 2004 election (somehow they didn't bother to "steal" the elections in 2006). This year he is claiming that the Republicans are again trying to steal the election via "voter suppression." What Kennedy means is that when Republicans dare to challenge the vast number of fraudulent registrations submitted by ACORN, that is somehow "voter suppression." So how to explain the very obvious false registrations submitted by ACORN around the country in such large numbers that the FBI is investigating them? Kennedy has an answer that will induce bellylaughs. Before we get to his money quote laugh line, let me set up the scene where Kennedy was appearing on CNN's Larry King Live last Friday along with radio talk show host, Michael Reagan. Here is the transcript (emphasis mine):

LARRY KING: Bobby, let's discuss the article you've written in "Rolling Stone."

Allegations of -- do you fear a lot of voter fraud coming?

I know that today the Supreme Court went on your side and sided with Ohio's top election officials in a fight with the state Republican Party over voter registration. The judges overruled the lower court ruling that ordered the Ohio secretary of state to do more to help counties verify voter eligibility.

What are your concerns?

KENNEDY: Well, the voter eligibility issue really is a -- it's a sideshow, Larry. And all of this stuff that we've heard recently about ACORN falsely registering people, it's really not an issue our country. Over the past, since 2002, there's been 270 million people who have voted and there's only been 24 proven cases, across the country, of actual voter fraud.

The stuff that ACORN was involved in really was people who were working for ACORN defrauding ACORN.

You hear these stories about somebody filing 18 different registrations for the same person. Well, there's actually nothing illegal about that. You can file as many registrations as you want. It's only the last one that counts. And that, you know, they have Mickey Mouse registered or whatever.

But Mickey Mouse is not going to vote. It's really, you know, those people who are falsely registered -- it was people that ACORN hired that they were paying per registration that went to a phonebook and just copied down names or made up names and then collected their money from ACORN. But none of those people are actually going to show up and vote.

You know, David Iglesias, who was the prosecutor -- was the U.S. attorney under the Bush Justice Department for the State of New Mexico, was ordered by his boss, Alberto Gonzales, and by the Karl Rove machine in the White House to go out and prosecute voter fraud because they wanted to gin up this hysteria about it. He looked for two years. They gave him 100 names off of ACORN lists. He was not able to find a single case in New Mexico of anybody ever showing up and trying to vote twice or vote under somebody's name...

You got that? According to Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., ACORN is not at fault for the massive numbers of fraudulent registrations they've submitted. No, it was the fault of all those nasty workers ACORN hired that soiled ACORN's simon pure reputation. Oh, and if you even dare to question those phony registrations, then you are guilty of "voter suppression." 

You can read Kennedy's absurd assertion that it is not ACORN but the big bad Republicans who are stealing the election in his overlong Rolling Stone fantasy, "Block the Vote." 

—P.J. Gladnick is a freelance writer and creator of the DUmmie FUnnies blog.


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Liberal Logic!

Yeah, What is ACORN but ACORN people?

 These morons think we'll swallow anything!  Just as Clinton figured Monica would!

STOP OBAMA and the INSANE Leftist NOW!

Swallow Anything

I live in a Democratic area. Many of the true believers repeat nonsense like Bobbie's almost verbatim.

B Kennedy is a nut

Voter fraud leads to vote fraud. All the "people" who somehow never voted during the day magically all vote for the preferred candidate after the polls close. 

Kennedy is either stupid...

...or plays an idiot on t.v.

The first rule of stealing elections is that you can't have more people vote than registered within a precinct. So, the first thing you do is fill the voter rolls with dozens or hundreds of fradulent registrations.

This is an old trick, Mr. Kennedy, and it just doesn't happen. In Kentucky, clerks used to not purge voter registrations, leaving numerous names of dead people on the rolls. This opened the door to stuffing ballot boxes. I know of a case where people in one precinct voted in perfect alphabetical order. I wasn't surprised that they were all Democrats.

Obviously, Kennedy thinks that only Democrats know how to rig an election.

Oh Really

Kennedy says:

You hear these stories about somebody filing 18 different registrations for the same person. Well, there's actually nothing illegal about that. You can file as many registrations as you want. It's only the last one that counts. And that, you know, they have Mickey Mouse registered or whatever.

Wann bet Bobbie?  Here is what you sign in Flordia:

Oath: I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will protect and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Florida, that I am qualified to register as an elector under the Constitution and laws of the State of Florida, and that all information provided in this application is true.

 

That one is great!

I forgot about that, it's been so long since I had to fill out a voter's registration form (I've lived in the same house for 20 years) so, how come no one, not one person, in the MSM has brought that up?

Democrats: Stuck on Stupid since 2000.

Interesting thing about Bob 2

He always receives applause just for being Bobby 2 but then goes on to display his ignorance every time he's on TV.  Despite Kennedy worshipers hopes, same name identity only reveals B2 is  a parasite. Gut check: 9 out of 10 on the cringe scale.

Barak 0bama - Afraction American

Chubby Checker is alive and well

"... Twistin' ... twistin' ... twisting the night away ..."

It's also a little silly to cite a Kennedy as an expert on voter fraud. He may be an expert, perhaps, but ...

This is the wheelbarrow trick. This is from the old children's story about the man who made a bet that he could steal property from the king's palace. Day after day, the man came into the palace, then brought out wheelbarrows filled with dirt, sand, etc. The guards checked it every day. They poked through the dirt and sand, and never found anything. After a week, though, the man proclaimed he won the bet. The guards said no, they checked the dirt and sand everyday. That's when the man confessed that he had been stealing wheelbarrows.

The analogy is that ACORN is flooding the system with fake registrations. While it's true that the registrations are being discovered, the effort to expose one set of bogus registrations distracts from catching other bogus ones elsewhere.

Acorn's fraudulent voter

Acorn's fraudulent voter registration serves a multitude of purposes including:

  1. Concentrate only on registering those Acorn believes will vote for Acorn's candidate of choice.
  2. Manufacture propaganda concerning sheer number of individuals registered, valid or otherwise, particularly with respect to supporting one candidate over another.
  3. Create confusion and make-work for the Board of Election, possibly allowing for some phony registrants to "vote".
  4. The kaos induced at the Election Boards creates an opportunity for Acorn (or whomever) to claim mismanagement by the Boards and protest to the courts for relief (think Florida but worse as it could be many more States involved).

Acorn appears to follow the Saul Alinsky methodology of using the system to subvert the system.  Obama is a loyal proponent of the Alinsky method, partially demonstrated by his long term and continuing close relationship with Acorn.

Kennedys: Fraudulent Love?

ACORN: Could you be voting against yourself?

JDW


DAILY WAVE

'Hey Chuck, Stand Up!'

Is the Community Reinvestment Act part of free enterprise?

Kennedy 2

a tool for the Dems.  Consuming vast quanties of fuel and energy, roaming around he world to tell tall tales and then bring his ridiculous spin to the oh so informative Larry King show (CNN).

Give me a break, this guy is an absolute zero. 

No Obama Not Now Not Ever. 

 

 

Uncle Ted

Someone has found Uncle Ted's drug stash.

 

Old, Retired and glad of it.

Weren't these people

Weren't these people trained by Acorn?  So if they're defrauding Acorn, isn't it Acorn's fault since they trained the very people guilty of defrauding Acorn?

Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July.  Democrats believe every day is April 15th ~ Ronald Reagan

It's very simple....

 ...ACORN turns these workers loose on the street and turns a blind eye to the legality or accuracy of the voter registration forms that are submitted at the end of the day. Then ACORN, when irregularities are found, claims they're not responsible for the worker's actions.

It's called 'plausible deniability'.

 

 

 

NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE

Oh, I know how they

Oh, I know how they work.  I just find it interesting that Acorn is saying it's a few of their workers who are doing the defrauding and it's not systemic. 

I think they are trying to give "plausible deniability" to Obama by declaring it's a few misguided workers.  Remember, Acorn came out after the debate and said Obama worked as a trainer for them after he denied having anything to do with them.  I think they're trying to cover Obama's behind as well as their own of course.

Republicans believe every day is the 4th of July.  Democrats believe every day is April 15th ~ Ronald Reagan

If it's not systemic, then

If it's not systemic, then why is ACORN in trouble in so many states?

Ex-spook Writes About Obama

 

 

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Not only multiple States in

Not only multiple States in this election cycle but multiple States in election cycles of multiple years past.

Absolutely systematic.  Acorn is an organized and planned corruption perpetrated on Americans and our system of governance, and should be prosecuted under the Federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (commonly referred to as the RICO Act) for fraud, obstruction of justice and racketeering. 

Call Acorn what it is - the footsoldiers of the Progressive mafia.  Now is the time to treat them as the domestic subversive gang they really are.

Good luck after Senator Gub'mint becomes President Socialist.

Acorn

These Acorn people who are registering people

are paid by the Acorn Organization by how many

registrants they get.   The more they register, the

more they get.  When you pay people in this way,

your encouraging them to create false info.

Go among the poorest of neighborhoods and

naturally you will get people desperate for any

amount of money. 

 

What's left out of the training?

You have to wonder what they leave out of the training.  My guess is it's that little speech about how important the integrity of the voting system is to OUR democracy. 

Democrats: Stuck on Stupid since 2000.

Overblown Story

In many places, ACORN is required to submit all of its registrations, whether or not they are legitimate. So ACORN staff examine the lists and flag the probem names. That's just following the rules.

And the important distinction that conservatives gloss over is that glitches in the ACORN process are in voter REGISTRATION, not in voting. Kennedy is right. There are few instances of people convicted for VOTING fraudulently, and we can be assured that "Mickey Mouse" will not show up at the polls, even if his name slips through the ACORN net.

Let's be honest: the real problem for conservatives is that ACORN is registering a lot of people that conservatives don't want to see at the polls on election day because they are likely to vote the "wrong" way. Furthermore, in the event of a Democratic sweep on November 4, the losers can pull up this ridiculously overblown story and push the meme that they were robbed by nefarious liberals.

The conservative take on ACORN's problems also exhibits the age-old magician's trick of attemptig to direct the public's eye away from the place where the real "trick" is being performed. In this case, that "trick" is the ongoing Republican shenanigans designed to reduce Democratic vote totals. The mainstream media that NewsBusters loves to hate for its supposed liberal bias has largely shied away from that story, and Kennedy---along with Greg Palast and others---has done commendable work in bringing it to light.  

You cant have vote fruad

You cant have vote fruad without registration fraud. Besides, the facts prove you wrong, there were fraudulent registrants that voted in New Mexico during the democrat primary. Wanna guess who registered them?

http://proteinwisdom...

Now you can stop repeating your lies.

Oh, Puh-LEEZE!

You're kidding, right? Fraudulent registrations aren't a problem? Nothing to see here? If they "slip through," so what?

Let's really be honest: the problem liberals have with the scrutiny of ACORN is that liberals depend on fraudulent registrations to inflate their vote totals. If "Mickey Mouse" or "John Smith" is registered to vote, and that name is on the rolls on Election Day, anyone who shows up to vote under those names must be allowed to vote. Whether or not they actually exist and are qualified to vote has to be determined beforehand. Isn't that a pain-in-the-a$$?

And what "ongoing Republican shenanigans," other than questioning the legitimacy of some ACORN registrations (just as the FBI is doing, btw) are you talking about? Care to explain? Or is "Republicans are [fill in the blank]" what passes for a cogent fact with you?

"Overblown Story" my a$$!

 

"I do not... believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason and intellect has intended us to forego their use."  G. Galilei

ACORN is not required to submit....

 ...registration forms for 'Mickey Mouse', the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys, or any other obviously frivolous forms.

I don't buy ACORN's claim that they 'flag' suspect registrations. I'd like to know, of all the fraudulent registrations submitted by ACORN, what percentage of them were really 'flagged'.

I think they 'flag' a few forms just so they can cover themselves.

It's not necessary that illegal votes are cast. ACORN's strategy is to swamp election officials with huge numbers of forms at or near the deadline that tie up all their resources, and then invade the polls with attorneys to challenge the process and therefore produce chaos.

 NOLI PUGNARE ME OCCIDERE

AD... Nice try, but it

AD...

Nice try, but it won't pass the smell test. If this is a magicians trick, then why is the FBI looking into ACORN and not supposed voter disenfranchisement you accuse the Republicans of? 

Ex-spook Writes About Obama

 

 

Making Fun of AGW http://giovanniworld.wordpress.com/  

RIGHHHHHHT!...Wrong!

When the rolls are loaded up with people who lied and dead people, it's easy to perpetrate Vote fraud when you use reasonably accurate information. The sole purpose of checking for addresses and correct social security numbers is to prevent these invalid votes from counting.

Stop the enrollment early enought that everyone registered is checked. Make sure that a drivers license or state identity card is used to verify voter's information at the polls. You wouldn't let someone buy beer without showing an identity card, so why should anyone be allowed to vote without one?

Wow, is this crack-head day here at NB or what?

First, its Redphilly posting this idiocy, now AD is in here justifying blatant voter fraud on the part of his precious dims and their tree-nut supporters.

LOL-I think successful completion of a basic intelligence test should be a requirement for membership at NB. 

-Dave

Dave.......Like AD....and others....

they are scared sh*tless right now, because Comrade Obama isnt double digits ahead.....they rely on fraud and intimidation.  They roll in here, throw a grenade, to a.) Upset us, and b.) to try to demoralize us, and make us think all is lost.  Their attack on the average american is blowing up in their face, so what we are witnessing is the total lunacy, unhinged fringe type.......I try to not respond to these idiots any more, because my blood pressure goes through the roof.......but I do break once in a while and go on a tirade, as you, I'm sure, have seen from time to time.  It aint over till its over........keep tossing your grenades losers....we will see who's laughing on Nov. 4th. 

"If a man does his best, what else is there"?

General George S. Patton Jr.

I try to not respond to

I try to not respond to these idiots any more, because my blood pressure goes through the roof.

LOL-Mine, too.

-Dave

We exist in inverted and bass-ackward times.

AD, you are so full of it

AD, you are so full of it it's not even funny.   If a Republican organization was PROVEN to be submitting THOUSANDS of fraudulent  registrations, both you and the MSM would have a coniption.

Tell me truthfully, who is really concerned with stopping voter fraud?   Let's look at the FACTS:

The democrats oppose any kind of voter id requirements.

The democrats oppose any kind of precinct camera survellience.

The democrats favor un-controlled voter registration drives with no oversight.

Basically, the democrats favor ANYTHING that will make it EASIER to cheat.

When asked if he went to war with Iraq  to derail the impeachment vote:  “I don’t think any serious person would believe that any President would do such a thing." - President Clinton (Dec 1998).

Now Step Two

Thrownout registrations still plays into the hands of ACORN and other groups who are trying to destroy the process.

Step two is to flood voting precincts with people wanting provisional ballots. I know this folks, just wait and see on election day. Provisional ballots are difficult to deal with because it takes a lot of the time of poll workers.

It will be chaos on election day, which is exactly what they want.

I sometimes feel like a voice in the wilderness on this issue, but I've seen some disturbing things both during and between elections since 2000.

Smart NB'ers, please answer - Is this an issue re: Poll Results?

Does anyone know if this this an issue?

Let's say a state has fraudulent registrations favoring one party over another. Pollsters will weight the responses according to registered party affiliations. Are these weighted percentages affected by a high number of fraudulent registrations favoring one party? If so, are the poll results skewered by these fraudulent registrations? in significant percentages?

regarding Barack Obama's tax plan - I never received a job from a poor person.

mom_rox,

That's a thought that hadn't occurred to me.

I would think, if there are a lot of fraudulent declared Democrat registrations, and if pollsters do use those numbers to figure "weighting," then it follows that those registrations would effect that "weighting."

But, for whatever reason, I have long considered polls to be so much cow-flop. This could be a reason they're skewed, but I hadn't considered it. I don't think you have to declare a party when registering in my state (been registered a long time), but maybe in others.

 

"I do not... believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason and intellect has intended us to forego their use."  G. Galilei

OH!

More of his usual B$ from Robert. I get promotional material from him in the mail and at first I couldn't believe how radical it was. I learned the Robert is  radical in everything.

ACORN - Giving good squirels a bad name

ACORN is the biggest fraud going in this election. I honestly believe that the Conservative turnout will be the reason that McCain wins this election. I honestly believe that the polls are corrupt by/with the samples of people that they use. I myself have been polled and I told them straight up that I would be voting for McCain and the pollster seemingly tried to get me to say otherwise. Come election day the MSMers will be trying to figure out how the polls had it wrong. Answer= they were done by other corrupt people such as ACORN people or just plain liberals. I can't wait 15 days to go.

115%

Several towns/cities/counties have as much as 115% of their population registered to vote, and yes some early voting fraud has been found. Funny thing the illegal vote counts as much as a legal one since the vote is secret, that is until the democrats do away with that and force old people ot vote in the open with union thugs armed with clubs watching them. That is coming to. All will be lost with Hussein O,  99.99% of the voters will vote for him just like they do for the midget in Korea and Chavez's slaves.

I love to watch the Media hypes lying and cheating for the man who will do away with they're right of a free press. That's the first act of a dictator,  nothing printed or broadcast that isn't approved by his thugs. That may be just the thing for the brain dead media of today. Someone telling them what to write since their editors don't.

 

Old, Retired and glad of it.

ACORN's Ignorance

ACORN is suddenly blaming their workers for taking them to the cleaners! Give me a break. Evidently, ACORN conveniently forgot about vicarious liability (respondiat superior) whereby "the employer is responsible for the acts of his employees which were committed within the scope of employment." These acts are usually torts, as in fraud. ACORN hired those workers, trained them, and sent them out to do the work. Ergo, ACORN is responsible and cannot sluff this off on those they hired.

Jill C. Walker

Chattanooga, TN

Which is why I posted

Which is why I posted earlier that the Feds should go after Acorn using the RICO Act for systemically planned and implemented fraud, obstruction of justice, bribery and racketeering.

Good point, strat,

That's a great idea! This really is conspiracy to commit fraud, at the minimum. I'll bet a thorough investigation could prove that, too.

 

"I do not... believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason and intellect has intended us to forego their use." G. Galilei

You know, if Bobby and Jack

You know, if Bobby and Jack had lived to see this, they'd be slapping Junior around. Hard.

Teddy has been bad enough, but he has some excuse. I mean, he had to see two of his brothers assassinated. That had to have some effect.

However, this example of the "next generation" of the Camelot ideal is just sadly stupid. Just another opportunistic politician.

 

"I do not... believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason and intellect has intended us to forego their use."  G. Galilei

Yeah, we're trying

Yeah, we're trying to suppress the votes of Necro-Americans! And I'm sure The One was planning to resurrect them all before election day, at least long enough to vote!

Heroin

He may have the same name and appearance, but RFK Jr.'s former drug addiction to heroin did have long term and permanent effects on his brain including his ability to speak. Which means he is not all there.

 

 

 

 

I think we should trust RFK Jr's view on voter fraud...

...I mean, I'm sure Grandpa Joe taught him a thing or two back in the day....