Bob (Eddie Mush) Shrum Answers Painful Question

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It's hard to dislike political consultant Bob Shrum. Because of the Shrum Curse, he is exactly 0 for 8 in getting the presidential candidates he worked for elected starting with George McGovern in 1972 and most recently John Kerry in 2004. And because all of the candidates he worked for have been Democrats, that is why he is so well liked by Republicans because of his reputation as the Eddie Mush of presidential campaigns.

In case you are unfamiliar with Eddie Mush, he was the character in the movie "A Bronx Tale" who was a total jinx. He had a perfect track record of losing every bet he ever placed as well as jinxing everyone around him. That pretty much describes Bob Shrum so it must have been painful for Shrum to answer this reader's question in the UK Independent: "Would you give up your other victories to have gotten one Democratic president elected?" You can tell that Shrum was a bit irked in his reply:

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It's hubris to think that consultants get presidents elected. They can play an important part. In terms of tradeoffs, let me offer one example. I certainly would not have given up Ted Kennedy's come-from-behind Senate re-election against Mitt Romney in 1994. Kennedy, perhaps the greatest of US Senators, has brought more progressive change than many presidents have done.

Of course, Shrum is still claiming that his 2000 Al Gore election loss wasn't really a loss. Here is his reply to another reader's question: "Do you respect Karl Rove?"

The 2000 race was stolen, and the next time George Bush had the worst showing of a re-elected incumbent president in American history. But he was inaugurated, if not elected, and then in 2004, Rove executed the strategy of appealing to fear and consolidating the base that just got Bush by. That strategy fell apart in the 2006 elections – and it will be recycled by McCain and repudiated by the voters this year.

That's right, Bob, and Kryptonite really did win that race at the Aqueduct Racetrack. You can watch  it on the video replay.

The big question now is whether Joe Biden will be affected by the Shrum Curse. Here is the reply of Eddie Mush, I mean Bob Shrum, to another reader's question: "What do you make of Obama's choice for Vice-President? Who would you have picked?"

Biden is a great choice. He has deep foreign policy experience and a genuine capacity to connect with blue-collar voters. He's originally from the coal region of Scranton, Pennsylvania. And he is a terrific debater, likely to beat his Republican counterpart in the vice-presidential debate. Joe Lieberman was routed in 2000; John Edwards barely held his own in 2004 – and that hurt. Biden will also vigorously prosecute the case against the Republican nominee, another area where Lieberman and Edwards failed.

This could very well doom Biden from the get-go. And for you Doubting Thomases out there who think there can't really be Eddie Mush type people like Bob Shrum who carry a jinx with them, it turns out that the actor (Eddie Montanaro) who portrayed Eddie Mush in the film was in fact a real life Eddie Mush. Chazz Palminteri, the writer and star of "A Bronx Tale," explains in an interview while talking about Robert De Niro:

Well, he loved the character of Eddie Mush. We were having trouble casting the role, we could not find the character, it's such a strange character. Here's a guy who's been a born loser all his life. He's a jinx, and we had trouble casting this part. And it was Bob's idea, he said to me, 'Where is the real Eddie Mush?' I said, well, he's probably in the neighborhood still losing bets. So he said 'Let's find him.' And we go down and there he was, with The Racing Form. This guy has done this all his life. He's been running from loan sharks, borrowing money, paying the other guy, so then when we finally cast him in the movie I turn to Bob and said, I'm really nervous now because he might jinx the movie. Bob said, 'Holy sh*t! I didn't realize that,' and we got really nervous!

We did put him in the movie, obviously, and the first day on the set it rained. It did! We had to go to a cover set. I looked at him and said 'I want to kill you!' But he was so terrific, how could you not put him in the movie?

And if they ever make a sequel to "A Bronx Tale," I think I know who they can get to portray Eddie Mush again. A certain someone working in the Obama campaign who desperately hopes to make his track record 1 for 9.

—P.J. Gladnick is a freelance writer and creator of the DUmmie FUnnies blog.


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Favorite Quote

My favorite quote from this interview...

"...John Edwards barely held his own in 2004...."

Well, Mr. Edwards does keep trying to hold his own, but everytime he does there is an Enquirer photographer trying to snap a picture.

(Sorry, I couldn't resist.)

 

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Shrum will be keeping his

Shrum will be keeping his perfect 0 win record...

It will be 0-9 in Nov.

...and the leftist talking heads in the msm call him Lucky.

"America isn't the problem...America is the solution." ~ Rush Limbaugh

Lucky

Lucky that the Dems haven't booted his dusty butt from the party.

I love it when he says that advisors/consultants really don't get a president elected.  Well... if that's the case... then the Dems should save a bunch of money by firing all their useless consultants.

 

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Scranton?!

Joe Biden hasn't been in Scranton since 1958!!

This guy is no different

This guy is no different from any of the other 'strategist' morons that earn a living about $100 at a time pretending to be experts on the various tv talk shows. Their job requires them to memorize about half a dozen talking points given to them by the campaigns and repeat these points regardless of what question they are asked.

Not a single one of them has had an iota of effect in getting someone elected. The only thing that determines who gets elected is how good their handlers make them appear to the moronic voters who cast their ballots for the horse that is their lucky color or they like their name.

In this cycle the election will be determined by how many racist voters show up at the polls. All of the black racists will vote for the black candidate and all the white racists will vote against the black candidate, period.

If college kids are sober enough to get to the polls they could effect the election, but most of them probably can't figure out how to operate the voting machine. That subject isn't covered in their liberal arts, communication or (pick-the-color) studies major.

 

 

 

This guy is no different

This guy is no different from any of the other 'strategist' morons that earn a living about $100 at a time pretending to be experts on the various tv talk shows. Their job requires them to memorize about half a dozen talking points given to them by the campaigns and repeat these points regardless of what question they are asked.

Not a single one of them has had an iota of effect in getting someone elected. The only thing that determines who gets elected is how good their handlers make them appear to the moronic voters who cast their ballots for the horse that is their lucky color or they like their name.

In this cycle the election will be determined by how many racist voters show up at the polls. All of the black racists will vote for the black candidate and all the white racists will vote against the black candidate, period.

If college kids are sober enough to get to the polls they could effect the election, but most of them probably can't figure out how to operate the voting machine. That subject isn't covered in their liberal arts, communication or (pick-the-color) studies major.

 

 

 

repus

You can say that again.

Oh, I see you did

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Sorry for the double post -

Sorry for the double post - my bad.

  ". . . the next time

 

". . . the next time George Bush had the worst showing of a re-elected incumbent president in American history."

No, Bob, that would be clintoon.  clintoon never won a majority of the popular vote. 

In 1992, clintoon won 43%, Bush 37.4%, and Perot 18.4%.  Had Perot not run, Bush may have won.

In 1996, clintoon won 49%; Dole won 40.7% and Perot won 8.4%.  Had Perot not run in 1992, Bush would probably run for a second term and who knows who would have run against him. 

In 2000, albore won 48.4%; Bush won 47.9%, but carried 30 to albore's 20 states and of course, won the electoral vote. Nadar carried 2.7% of the vote.  Had he not been in the race, albore would most likely have been president.

In 2004, Bush won 50.7%; kerry won 46.3%, but carried 19 to Bush's 31 states and of course, won the electoral vote. 

So, Bob is wrong.  In the last four elections, the only one to carry a majority of the American popular vote was Bush in 2004.  The president that had the poorest showing in a reelection bid would be either carter or johnson.  Both had done so poorly in their first terms that they dared not run for a second!  On yeah, lest we forget they were both dimocrats. 

 A majority, also known as a simple majority in the U.S. is a subset of a group that is more than half of the entire group.

 

Verbal error.

"In 2004, Bush won 50.7%; kerry won 46.3%, but carried 19 to Bush's 31 states and of course, won the electoral vote."

Kerry lost the electoral vote. :-)

 

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But Clinton

Did Clinton ever reach 50%?

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Shrum's appearance.

This guy looks like the Grinch who stole Christmas, at least in the picture provided.

It certainly must not have felt like the ideal Christmas for 8 presidential contenders, that's for sure.

 

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