Dan Abrams and Catherine Crier Salivate Over 'Inherent Contempt' Arrest of Karl Rove


Dan Abrams, apparently still smarting from the castigation he received in April from Karl Rove, just cannot let go. Despite the fact that the "high level" Republican operative, Jill Simpson, who accused Rove of orchestrating the prosecution of convicted Democrat former Alabama governor, Dan Siegelman, never actually met nor talked to Karl Rove and whose "high level" operative activities in her own words never rose above typical volunteer work, Abrams continues to wander into the swamp created by this much less than credible source. On Thursday, Abrams and Catherine Crier were salivating with glee on MSNBC's Verdict over the prospect that the House Judiciary Committee might issue something called an 'inherent contempt' arrest for Karl Rove (emphasis mine):

DAN ABRAMS, HOST:  We have got breaking news tonight: The chairman of the House Judiciary Committee has threatened to have Karl Rove arrested, at issue whether Rove will testify about the prosecution of Alabama‘s former Democratic governor, Don Siegelman.  What role if any did Rove play in bringing down the popular Democrat?

Thus far, Rove has refused to testify and the committee has given him another week or they say they‘ll subpoena him.

If he still refuses, Politico.com reporting that John Conyers, chairman of the Judiciary Committee said today, quote, We‘ll do what any self-respecting committee would do.  We‘d hold him in contempt.  Either that or go and have him arrested.  We‘re closing in on Rove,” Conyers said.

Joining us now is former judge, Catherine Crier.  Catherine, the congressman has been getting very serious about this.

Um, Dan, you might have mentioned what Politico.com also reported Conyers as saying:

Just off the House floor today, the Crypt overheard House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers tell two other people: “We’re closing in on Rove. Someone’s got to kick his ass.”

Not exactly an example of blind justice in that quote which is why Abrams neglected to use it in his introduction. Let us now return to Abrams and Crier as they pretend to not openly lust for Rove's arrest based on not much more than the testimony of a highly questionable source:

CATHERINE CRIER, FORMER JUDGE:  It‘s about time.

ABRAMS:  Tell me why.

CRIER:  I‘m serious because we‘ve got - well, there was the Harriet Miers, there have been several individuals if you go back throughout this Bush administration that haven‘t responded.  Now, they‘ve got Karl Rove in the Siegelman affair and he has refused repeated offers to compromise, to give him an opportunity to testify and it‘s finally to the point where you say—either this third branch has power or it has been completely a masquerade.

ABRAMS:  Because up to now what they‘ve been saying is—we‘ll like you to come in voluntarily and testifying.  So far, he‘s been saying—we‘ll answer questions in writing, we‘ll come in and talk but there can‘t be a transcript.

CRIER:  Can‘t be under oath.

ABRAMS:  Not under oath, et cetera.  And now it sounds like Congress is getting a little tired of it.  This is Congressman Wexler, also a member of this committee, on this program last night.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

REP. ROBERT WEXLER, (D) FLORIDA:  And if he refuses to honor the subpoena, then the full House of Representatives must hold Mr. Rove in contempt of Congress and then we must ask the attorney general to enforce the contempt of Congress subpoena or citation.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

ABRAMS:  Inherent contempt—what does that mean?

CRIER:  Well, here‘s the way this plays out.  If the full House issues the contempt citation, then it‘s supposed to go to the Department of Justice.  And they‘re supposed to take it to a grand jury, they‘re supposed to enforce this.  Well, they‘ve already—the Bush administration says—no, through executive authority we‘re saying privilege—they‘re not going to enforce it.

You might then try the federal courts.  The federal courts are liable to say it‘s a political question but the Constitution gives Congress the inherent power to issue contempt and then to prosecute on this.

ABRAMS:  On their own?

CRIER:  They can send the sergeant of arms out into the countryside, arrest, haul somebody in and in days gone by use to literally hold them in the basement of Congress, an impromptu jail and then they could have a trial.  That is still their power today.

ABRAMS:  Unlikely to happen here but it does sound like they‘re getting ready to move forward with something here.

CRIER:  Well, unlikely to happen in the sense that they might not jail them in the basement any longer.  But at this point in time, if you look at the DOJ, it has already basically said—we are not going to do what we‘re supposed to do.  They must take it to a grand jury.  So no (ph), executive privilege, we‘re not going to act.  The courts probably won‘t.

So, it will—if the full Congress asserts, if the full House votes, then they will have to try this case themselves which means issue the arrest warrant and try them.

ABRAMS:  Again, final question on this, executive privilege—with Karl Rove has said that he didn‘t talk to anyone in the White House about it.  So, what‘s the potential executive privilege?

CRIER:  Well, he‘s making the claim and that assertion I don‘t think will go anywhere.  It might be something a federal court will go with.  But right now, the Department of Justice has given no indication that they will—that they will go out and serve those subpoenas issued by Congress.

ABRAMS:  Are you surprised Conyers is using language like arrested?

CRIER:  At this point?  No.  I‘m a big rule of law.  This has nothing to do with politics for me.  It is respecting the rule of law, regardless of Democrat or Republican.  And at this point in time, if they don‘t show backbone then there are not three branches of government in this country.

ABRAMS:  And we should say again, the subpoena has not been issued yet.  So, we shall see what happens if and when the subpoena is issued and I‘ll continue to follow this case.

To fully appreciate the orgasmic glee with which Abrams and Crier ponder the "inherent contempt" arrest of Karl Rove by the House sergeant-at-arms as he is possibly hauled off to incarceration in the basement of Congress, you need to check out the video of this segment of the Verdict. As for Crier's absurd claim that  "I‘m a big rule of law.  This has nothing to do with politics for me.  It is respecting the rule of law, regardless of Democrat or Republican," perhaps she has deluded herself into thinking this but the leftwing blogosphere is quite open about their political motivations in their Karl Rove "inherent arrest" bloodlust. Here is a sampling of the sanity challenged Daily Kos postings about this segment of Dan Abrams' Verdict:

DON'T THREATEN THE BASTARD! Just arrest his skanky ass and frog march him into the Capitol.

Five cops kneeing on and handcuffing him after they tasered him a few times for good measure.

Could congress hire a bounty hunter? Charter some privateers?

It would not be unjust to see this filth brought up before a crowd of The People who would watch and jeer as he was Tarred and Feathered.

they all deserve Mussolini treatment the only question is when will they get it

Karl Rove belongs in prison together with the rest of the criminals in the Republican Party.

This is only a very small sampling of the posts on this topic in the Daily Kos rubber room. You can see a much larger collection of their rantings about Karl Rove's "inherent arrest" at the DUmmie FUnnies. And while reading their postings, please keep in mind that much of the MSM holds up the Daily Kos as an example of the voice of reason in the "progressive" blogosphere.

—P.J. Gladnick is a freelance writer and creator of the DUmmie FUnnies blog.


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Some serious

RDS here (kinda like BDS).  Go Karl!

Maybe

inherent RDS would be appropriate.

They forgot

 

The Frog march.

Frog March

Check the Kossack rantings. They are obsessed with the Frog March.

Karl - Simply the Best

When is the MSM going to leave Karl alone?  First they accused him of bugging his own office and blaming the Dims to garner sympathy when Bush was running for governor, then there was his supposed link to the McCain illegitimate black baby affair, countless push-polling accusations, the outing of Valarie Plame, the swiftboating of John Kerry and now blaming him for this bottom-dwelling Siegelman scum trying to scrub clean his dirty laundry with the whitewash of the media.  Forget the fact that all of these losers got what they deserved and whether Karl had anything to do with it or not, he is simply one of the greatest political operatives of the century.   I think that because Karl has the unassuming look of the Pillsbury Doughboy, the MSM all like to pinch him, but not in a nice way.  Unfortunately for the drive-bys though, Karl is more like Houdini.  No matter what chains they try to tie him up in, he breaks free, laughing all the way to the bank. 

"high level" operative

"high level" operative activities in her own words never rose above typical volunteer work

wow, i guess my e-mails to Barbara Boxer make me a "key advisor";  want the inside skinny on Babs?

  i am the quixotic botg and i approved this message”   

The real problem with Congress' action

is that is inteferes with states rights. Whatever role Karl Rove may or may not have had, Dan Siegelman's prosecution and convition is none of Congress' concern. It is up to Alabama's attorney general as to whether or not to investigate Rove. This is just another example of Congress overreaching its Constitutional authrority - something it's been doing a lot of since the Democrats regained control.

SG...and Okie...you both

SG...and Okie...you both are right in  my opinion.

I saw this segment....I am glad Fox let Catherine go long ago...Abrams rode in on his dad's coattails...msnbc is an agenda for the enemy within...it is up to the repubs to get some guts and fight back on our side of the aisle...

I am still waiting...

Btw...fits...you are so right about a has been frustrated leftist judge and the botox...of course I threw in some of my own description here...lol. 

"Never murder your opponent when he is committing suicide." ~ W. Churchill

When?

When are so-called Republican congressmen going to finally grow a pair and start calling out their fellow congressmen who just can't seem to get past their expressed desire to "frog march" Rove.

Republican congressmen, I advise you to go on the offensive or you will be wiped out by the electorate. We want you to represent what is good and right. We don't care if the socialist-democrat wing of the Democratic Party likes you. Stop trying to get along -- you are losing!

Inherent Contempt

Aren't these the same two journalists who were gleefully advocating the arrest of Rush Limbaugh for violating the Ohio voter law?

CRIER: At this point?

CRIER: At this point? No. I‘m a big rule of law.

But not big enough to think there is something INHERENTLY corrupt about Conyers?

That a member of the Legislature (representing all the overwhelming power of the State) is using his privilege try to destroy a citizen by acting as arresting officer, prosecutor, judge, jury and jail guard?

And boasting about it in the Peoples' House?

There's a word for that. STALINIST.

Vote 4 change. Vote 4 anything. See Jack & Mr Shy's first campaign ad for the ONLY viable 3rd party candidate.

CRIER: At this point? No.

CRIER: At this point? No. I‘m a big rule of law.

At this point? No, Catherine.  You're actually a bitter ex-judge barely held together by more surgical procedures and botox injections than Priscilla Presley and Joan Rivers put togther. 

Frogs marching

Robert Wexler will use any pretext to go after the Bush administration.  He'll undoubtedly push for Rove to be frog marched, as a prelude to an attempt at impeaching Dick Cheney. 

Oh, and he's Bambi's Florida campaign chair as well.  It was pretty bloody funny watching Wexler and Hillary's chairwoman (another obnoxious Broward County lawmaker) go at it in February. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Wonderful!  Dan "Squirrel

Wonderful!  Dan "Squirrel Rug" Abrams and Catherine "Why the (chuckle) Right Wing (snicker) is Screwing Up the Judicial System" Crier are giddy about some new attempted contortion of logic and the law because they think they might "finally get" Karl Rove.  This reminds me of how eager David Shyster was to claim that Rove and Dick Cheney were going to "face justice" over that phony Joe Wilson/Valerie Plame "scandal".  That's how they operate at MSDNC, throw it up against the wall to see if it will stick...then throw the mother of all tantrums when it inevitably doesn't.  How long before one of these self-important gasbags (Shyster, Abrams, Olberdouche, the Leg Tingler, etc.) trots out the Elliott Ness/Al Capone tax evasion cliche? 

Wasn't it not to long ago

Wasn't it not to long ago that Danny boy was telling us how Ruburt Murdoch and FOX was going to be brought down by that lawsuit from that author?..wasn't it not to long ago that MSNBC's little twit David Shuster promised that Rove was going to be indited for the "Plame" affair?..wasn't it not too long ago that Chrissy Mathews thought that Rush was going to get in trounble for "Operation Choas"?..wasn't not too long ago that KO thought O'Reilly was going to be detroyed by a alleged sexual harrassment case? and so on....I mean MSNBC's track record on this stuff isn't too graet is it?

 

Frankly I think Rove should go to Congress and just b*tchslap them upside the head call Conyer's bluff  and make the same remarks about that women Simpson and the alleged charges against Him as in that letter He wrote.

 

"How do you know when Hillary Clinton is lying?".."When She opens her mouth to talk."Neal Boort

Abrams & Arrest

Dan Abrams, the man that continues Mika Brezinzki's(?) employment.

Abrams & Mika - the yin & yang of PMSNBLSD - they should be immediately admitted to the nearest hospice - their ignorance and BDS is terminal.

Their audience, combinatively, consists of the Komrades of Kos,  MoveOn.idiot, Huff & Puff and Code Pinko.

Who gives a sh1t what they think?

Hey Harry,

I watch....for the amusement factor. 

So their audience is Mark Finklestein & me....Morning Joe wakes you up, for sure, if you're in the right frame of mind. 

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Hey Blonde!

Yeah, I confess - me too - when I'm not too hungover at that time of the morning to watch "Morning Shmo."

I wait, with baited breath, to see just how inane, insipid, and inconsiconquential(?) Mika can be.

Problem is danger to my TV due to flying bottles of Laphroig.

Flying Laphroaig?

Yikes...I don't think I'd waste that on Mika.

I really enjoy all of Mika's insipidness...and her incessant flirting with Joe, who patently despises her.  Smack down number 5,045. 

I'm becoming a Willie Geist, fan, tho.   

David Gregory, do you know which damn network you lie for? ~ Uncle Jimbo, @Blackfive

 

Whoa, girl!

EMPTY bottles of Laphroaig, lassie!

I'll not be throwin' Scot's ambrosia at the wee Polish Princess!

We Scotties may be barbarians but were not wastrels donchaknow?