Skip to main content
  • CNSNews.com
  • MRC TV
  • Biz & Media
  • Culture & Media
  • Take Action!

Join Us @:
Facebook
Twitter
Amazon Kindle

Free email alerts!

NewsBusters logo
June 18, 2013
  • Home
  • Blogs
  • About
  • Forum
  • Take Action
  • Contact
  • Donate
  • Search
  • RSS

Hot Topics

  • Obama ScandalWatch
  • IRS Targets Tea Party
  • Censoring the News
Home » Blogs » Noel Sheppard's blog
  • Martin Bashir, Who Compared Conservatives to Hitler, Now Decries Nazi Comparisons
  • Bob Herbert: There Would Be Tons of Outrage on Left if Bush-Cheney Pursued Obama’s Policies
  • Liberal College Students Sign Petition to Make Spying on Fox News Legal
  • ABC Hypes Obama Family's 'Beautiful' Vacation, Avoids Any Hint of Extravagance
  • Piers Morgan Defends the Nanny State: 'People Need Nannying'
  • Liberal Pundit Marc Lamont Hill Condemns Photo of Obama Holding ‘Military Style’ Watergun
  • New Liberal Study 'Lends Credence to Conservative Charges' of Bias; Dramatic Media Tilt Toward 'Gay Marriage'
  • Senate Amnesty Supporters Boast Marco Rubio ‘Neutralized’ Limbaugh, Fox News

Michael Moore: 'Doesn't Trayvon Martin Have the Right to Kill Zimmerman If Zimmerman Is Stalking Him?'

By Noel Sheppard | July 24, 2012 | 22:56

A  A
Noel Sheppard's picture

"Doesn't Trayvon Martin actually have the right to kill George Zimmerman if George Zimmerman is stalking him and the police have told him not to stalk him?"

This question was actually asked Tuesday on CNN's Piers Morgan Tonight by schlockumentary filmmaker Michael Moore during a discussion about gun laws in the wake of the shootings in Aurora, Colorado (video follows with transcript and commentary):

PIERS MORGAN, HOST: On this point, a clear example of the kind of thing you’re talking about is the Trayvon Martin case where George Zimmerman, if he hadn't been carrying a gun, indisputably Trayvon Martin would still be alive.

Indisputably? How does Morgan know that?

Assuming Zimmerman didn't have a gun, he still might have encountered Martin leading to the deadly altercation.

Not according to the all-knowing Morgan:

MORGAN: It was the fact he had a gun. Whichever side of the argument you believe, and we don’t know all of the facts. It may or may not come out in the court case. But the bottom line is if the gun hadn't physically been on Zimmerman, then Trayvon Martin couldn’t have been shot. George Zimmerman was perfectly, legally entitled to carry this firearm around. That firearm led to Trayvon Martin being shot.

"That firearm led to Trayvon Martin being shot."

Really? The firearm led to Martin being shot and NOT actions that Martin might have taken to provoke the shooting? Isn't that yet to be determined in a court of law?

Also missing in Morgan's "reasoning" was maybe Zimmerman would have been dead if he didn't have a gun.

For some reason that's never a concern of liberal media members:

MICHAEL MOORE: Can I say something about that? About the Trayvon Martin thing? Let me put it this way. Let's say George Zimmerman’s right when he says Trayvon Martin tried to kill him. Alright. But it was George Zimmerman who was told by the police to quit stalking this boy. And he was the one who was committing the infraction against the law by disobeying the police and going after Trayvon Martin. Doesn't Trayvon Martin actually have the right to kill George Zimmerman if George Zimmerman is stalking him and the police have told him not to stalk him?

We don't know Zimmerman broke any laws. This was his neighborhood where he lived.

It has yet to be determined in a court of law exactly what route he took after he was told by police to stop his pursuit.

Moreover, assuming Zimmerman did indeed continue following Martin, you don't have the right to kill someone all because they're following you.

If that were the case, Moore who constantly stalks people in his schlockumentaries would have been legally shot years ago.

But I digress:

MORGAN: There is an irony there. It's George Zimmerman using Florida’s stand your ground defense when in fact as you say you could equally argue that Trayvon Martin may well have been doing the same thing. He might have been defending himself against somebody who he saw was armed...

MOORE: Which he has the right to do.

MORGAN: …in the darkness, and he didn't know what this guy was up to. I mean, we don't know the facts, important to say, but, you know, it is ironic. You had the guy with the gun…

MOORE: It doesn’t matter because George Zimmerman kind of claimed that as a defense. “He was trying to kill me.” Yes, he might have been trying to hurt you because you were stalking him. You were breaking the law.

Story Continues Below Ad ↓

So Moore and Morgan in their zeal to convict Zimmerman actually believe it's against the law to follow someone and that the person being pursued can kill his pursuer.

If you rubbed their heads together, you wouldn't even be able to start a fire.

About the Author

Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Click here to follow Noel Sheppard on Twitter.
  • Aurora theater shooting
  • Guns
  • George Zimmerman
  • James Holmes
  • Michael Moore
  • Piers Morgan
  • Trayvon Martin
  • CNN
  • Piers Morgan Tonight
  • Video
  • Noel Sheppard's blog
  • Printer-friendly version
Stop George Soros
Stop Censoring The Gosnell Trial!

Editors' Picks

  • Romney's revenge (Avik Roy @ NRO)
  • Relax, the Arizona voter registration ruling was narrowly drawn by Scalia (Hans von Spakovsky)
  • Snowden loses his moral authority with dangerous leaks (Rothman @ Mediaite)
  • Rapper Lil' Wayne stomps on American flag (Rare)
  • Apple releases information about data requests from NSA, other agencies (LA Times)
  • Five myths about privacy (Solove @ Washington Post)
  • Polls show Americans more libertarian on pot, gay marriage, guns (Barone)
  • Single men are opting out of society thanks to suffocating liberalism (Right Wing News)
  • What if Superman had to join a union? (Steven Crowder)
Chuck Norris's picture
Chuck Norris
Chuck Norris Column: The Superman of Dads and Grads
Cal Thomas's picture
Cal Thomas
Cal Thomas Column: Broadcast Nets, Ailes Is What's Good for You
Ann Coulter's picture
Ann Coulter
Coulter Column: If the GOP Falls for 'Immigration Reform' Ruse, It Deserves to Die
Walter E. Williams's picture
Walter E. Williams
Walter E. Williams Column: Let People Sell Their Organs to Sick, Needy Recipients
Michelle Malkin's picture
Michelle Malkin
Malkin Column: Anthony Weiner's Underage Girl Problem
More >

RSS FeedAmazon KindleFacebookTwitter

Stop Censoring The News!

Audit the Man of Steel?!
more cartoons
  • O’Reilly: Obama Could Be Impeached If Evidence Shows Intel Agency Read Emails Without Warrant
  • Christie: Obama’s ‘Charm Offensive Should Have Started January 2009’; ‘Bit Late in Dating Game’
  • Howard Stern to Jimmy Fallon: ‘How You Got The Tonight Show I Don't Know. You Barely Beat Craig Ferguson’
  • Rand Paul: ‘I Want to Go From 5% of the African-American Vote to At Least 20-25%’
  • Chris Cuomo Claims He’s ‘Completely Divorced From Ideology’ While Talking Up ‘Advocacy Journalism’
More >
NewsBusters

Executive Editor
Matthew Sheffield

Editor at Large
Brent Baker

Senior Editors
Tim Graham
Rich Noyes

Managing Editor
Ken Shepherd

Associate Editor
Noel Sheppard

Contributing Editors
Tom Blumer
Geoffrey Dickens
Dan Gainor
David Limbaugh
Mithridate Ombud
Clay Waters
Scott Whitlock

Senior Contributor
Mark Finkelstein

Contributing Writers
Matthew Balan
Michael M. Bates
Erin R. Brown
Jack Coleman
Kyle Drennen
Douglas Ernst
P. J. Gladnick
Stephen Gutowski
Matt Hadro
D. S. Hube
Kathleen McKinley
Dave Pierre
Amy Ridenour
Julia A. Seymour
Terry Trippany
Rusty Weiss
Brad Wilmouth

Publisher
Brent Bozell

Site Design
Dialog New Media

 

  • Home
  • Blogs
  • About
  • Forum
  • Contact
  • Donate
  • Search
  • Account
  • rss
  • CNSNews
  • MRC TV
  • Biz & Media
  • Culture & Media
  • Take Action!
  • Twitter
  • Facebook
  • Amazon Kindle
  • Advertise
  • Jobs

Copyright © 2005-2013 NewsBusters.
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use