College Republican Totally Schools MSNBC's Touré on Why Young People Aren't Just Democrats
Alex Schriver, the Chairman of the College Republican National Committee, totally schooled MSNBC's new co-host Touré Neblett Tuesday on why young people in America aren't just Democrats.
Schriver did such a marvelous job that you have to wonder if MSNBC's new program The Cycle will consider inviting him back on (video follows with transcript and commentary):
TOURE NEBLETT, CO-HOST: I want to engage Alex for a second because I generally find young Republicans to be a sort of strange breed. Most young people regardless of who’s at the top of the ticket, most young people tend to be Democrats. It’s been that way for a long time. So when I meet a young Republican, I want to put him on a couch and be like, “How did this happen to you?” And “how might you be saved?” Can you talk a little bit just philosophically about why you’re a Republican at, how old are you by the way?
S.E. CUPP, CO-HOST: Are you really treating him like he’s some kind of science experiment?
NEBLETT: Oh, absolutely. I treated you like that when I met you, and he’s even younger. How old are you, sir, and why are you a Republican?
ALEX SCHRIVER, CHAIRMAN COLLEGE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE: I’m 23 years old…
NEBLETT: Wow!
SCHRIVER: …and I’m proud to be a Republican. I’ll tell you, unfortunately Steve, history says that’s not true. Republicans have won the youth vote three times in the modern era. We actually came with two points of tying it in 2000. And so this idea that when you’re young you’re supposed to be liberal and as you grow older you grow more conservative just isn’t the case.
Polling tells us that the youngest members of this demographic, right, the number you just put up on the screen, 8 million new voters that have come of age since 2008, and that portion of this demographic is skewing more conservative. These are college freshmen and sophomores who saw their older brothers and sisters get caught up in Hope and Change three and a half years ago, and have moved back.
Boomerang Generation, okay. One in three young people now live with their parents after going to college. That’s the highest since the 1950s. We’re heading in the direction of countries like Spain and Greece where half of young people live with their parents.
So that 8 million new voters, we’re confident they are going to come out, they are enthusiastic, but unfortunately for this White House, not for their guy.
So, in just the second day of this new show on MSNBC, one of its co-hosts got embarrassingly schooled by a 23-year-old.
The folks that made the decision to promote Neblett to this role must be feeling awfully foolish right about now.
As for Schriver, he certainly makes you feel A LOT better about the future of this nation, doesn't he?
Bravo, Alex! Bravo!
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Typical leftist.
Submitted by Morganfrost on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 4:33pm.
For Toure and the MSNBC crowd (as for many on the left), conservatives aren't people who hold opposing views-- we're clinical specimens, suffering from some sort of pathology.
Kudos to the young republican for handling this so well, but, personally, I find this sort of thing extremely offensive. Toure and his ilk lack the intellectual chops to debate with conservatives-- as a result, they prefer to diagnose us. Clearly, if we're suffering from some disease, we need not be taken seriously.
I Know!!!
Submitted by tcm14 on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 6:04pm.
Neblett's part of the interview consists of spewing insults. Where did they find this guy, on Jersey Shore? Actually I would like to apologize to Jersey Shore, as that show is an intellectual powerhouse compared to this stooge.
Agreed
Submitted by Cappmann1962 on Wed, 06/27/2012 - 8:11am.
That kinda pissed me off. But this kid handed that effete liberal hanky stomper his a$$ on a platter, which is something you won't see a 23 year-old democrat do. Alex Schriver came prepared with facts and numbers, and presented them in a cogent way that brooked no argument. Girly-man Toure had absolutely no rebuttal. Which served him right after his smarmy little diatribe treating Schriver as if he had a disease. There's some more balanced "journalism" for you...
Morgan, Toure is just a tad
Submitted by MikeB on Wed, 06/27/2012 - 3:51pm.
Morgan, Toure is just a tad less unbalanced than the typical regressive. Most of them seem to feel that if you disagree with them it must mean you are evil, that you operate from malicious motives.
Leftists, on the other hand, have been demonstrated to operate from a base of pathology. Their Dear Leader is a Narcissist. At least one doctor of psychiatry has documented the pathology of the left. Pundits have claimed liberalism is a mental disease. I think this is true for most liberals, but for many at the top, they know that marxism/socialism does not work. But they continue to espouse and try to impose it, because they do actually operate from malicious motives.
"TOURE NEBLETT, CO-HOST"Oh
Submitted by redfish on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 4:43pm.
"TOURE NEBLETT, CO-HOST"
Oh no, Touré is going to be mad that his surname was used, its a "slave name"!
More young people were supporting Perot in 92/96 than adults were also, so there's an issue breaking things down into a liberal-conservative dichotomy, too. But a lot of the Democratic Party since the 60s is based on marketing itself as the 'youth party', and you see the same thing with left wing parties in Europe. Which is very divisive actually, its meant to cater to the messaging "old people = dumb, young people = smart"
Toure is an Obamabot, which
Submitted by John21 on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 4:42pm.
Toure is an Obamabot, which means he is from the bottom of the gene pool for intelligence. only slightly above the bottom for gullibility and right near the top for massive unearned ego.
Toure is an Obamabot
Submitted by woburn828 on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 8:59pm.
John 21, very funny. Good lines.
OUCH!
Submitted by P. Aaron on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 4:42pm.
OUCH!
Yep, ...
Submitted by Ackhams_Raysor on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 6:54pm.
...that's going to leave a mark.
How about we ask toure
Submitted by MichMike on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 4:44pm.
Can you provide 5 factual reasons to be a liberal, not "beliefs", not "caring", but facts based on evidence that support the liberal policies of the last 40 years. He could provide NO facts I would predict. Maybe that is part of the reason more young people have turned away from liberal "ideals", because they don't work at all, but they certainly make things worse for everyone, including those they are "helping". Indeed, the left has been helping American Indians for the longest (close to 100 years) and with more help than any other group and the demographics for this group are the worst of any identifiable group. Great job guys!
That wouldn't be
Submitted by fivestring_assassin on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 5:01pm.
difficult,,,I could school Toure on what it's like being Black
Another case of Libs looking at just appearances
Submitted by GW on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 5:02pm.
They think Young=liberal. It was a totally different way of thinking for this guy to think beyond identity politics.
"I can label you as young, so now I know your entire identity."
Right!
Submitted by amlaml on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 5:20pm.
Everybody is an individual. Period. Every individual is different. Period. End of story.
Toruke is an ass.
Submitted by cristo on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 5:24pm.
Toruke is an ass.
Touré got touchéd.
Submitted by HelloDare on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 5:26pm.
Touré got touchéd.
Actually
Submitted by The_Barrel_Guy on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 11:50pm.
Touré got douchéd.
Oh, hear me, and rise up, ye Nebletts: how far have ye fallen?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 5:32pm.
Cast out this Neblett, for this particular Neblett looks upon the Neblett name as an abomination to be hidden.
But apparently this Mr. Sheppard individual is hellbent on bringing it to the fore at every opportunity.
(Keep up the good work, Noel! I especially enjoyed the transcript line "NEBLETT: Wow!")
Touré Neblett. Sounds like
Submitted by HelloDare on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 5:58pm.
Touré Neblett. Sounds like an expensive European candy bar.
A nutty one
Submitted by journoprof on Wed, 06/27/2012 - 1:44am.
Yes, indeed! One that is really nutty!
Touré is a 9-11
Submitted by HelloDare on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 6:04pm.
Touré is a 9-11 Truther.
"MSNBC Debuts New Show Starring 9/11 Conspiracy Theorist"
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2012/06/22/msnbc-debuts-new-...
they have been after me to donate so now I did
Submitted by Lipton on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 6:11pm.
well done.
When the economy is good young people can afford to be liberal
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 6:14pm.
When the economy is bad they realize how much it sucks when the little amount you make is taken away and given to someone else.
High student loans aren't the only reason young people are moving back home, an inability to find employment factors into it.
BOOYA with a capital B, baby!
Submitted by Michael_in_Orlando on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 6:14pm.
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"Neblett"??
Submitted by Joe W. on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 6:42pm.
Sounds like a new way to can and market Green Giant Corn..."Toure' Neblett"....And the dude is as intelligent as a can of corn as well.....Ho, ho, ho...
Perhaps, Toure, it's some
Submitted by ant on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 9:07pm.
Perhaps, Toure, it's some kind of revolt. The survivors of the Democrats 'birth control' perogative, perhaps y'all shouldn't have slaughtered so many before they could become young people.
Bitch-slap!
Submitted by fatboy on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 9:28pm.
That's what you call having your ass handed to you! Taste good??
tourre neblett means "skull
Submitted by dill-deaux on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 9:47pm.
tourre neblett means "skull full of mush". typical obama lemming willing to follow his leader into the morass hopefully never to be seen again.
Toure's attitude and mannerism.........
Submitted by GregE on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 11:05pm.
..........absolutely sucks.
Young Republican
Submitted by Kansasgirl on Tue, 06/26/2012 - 11:55pm.
I was this kid back in 1969.
Bravo Alex!
hominahomina
Submitted by alltoosimple on Wed, 06/27/2012 - 8:35am.
I clicked on the vid to watch it, but as soon as S.E Cupp popped up I forgot about everything else.
A good response, but not a "schooling"
Submitted by Mattheus on Wed, 06/27/2012 - 10:48am.
I don't watch MSNBC, so I didn't see the whole exchange, but to say that a selectively edited exchange is a "schooling" of Toure is an exaggeration.
Toure is wrong in his exaggeration of the youth vote, essentially saying that it is, (or should be), exclusively liberal and Democrat. Obviously, this is not the case. It's easy to attack an idea like, "All young voters vote Democrat." : you just have to show one young voter who isn't a Democrat to prove the idea wrong.
Alex Shriver made a good response, but not bulletproof. He was basically reciting party points. Saying that the Republicans won the youth vote, "three times in the modern era" is vague. If I were Toure, I would have attacked that point. The question is "How have the youth been voting lately?" In the past three elections, the youth vote would seem to be going toward the Democrats.
It would have been interesting to see the whole clip. I would have been curious to know if there was any discussion regarding the issues that the youth are concerned about, and whether or not Obama's defense of his handling of the economy will be acceptable to them.
Also what does the polling suggest for the youth vote in the swing states, where the votes really matter? It was a good start by Alex, but showing a clip of one response does not make for a "schooling". I was a little disappointed.
Mattheus ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 06/27/2012 - 11:26pm.
"I don't watch MSNBC, so I didn't see the whole exchange, but to say that a selectively edited exchange is a "schooling" of Toure is an exaggeration.
**** "It would have been interesting to see the whole clip".****
You don't watch MSNBC; you didn't see the "whole" clip - but you have no problem shooting from the hip with your in-depth assessment of the parts of it you did observe.
As far as answering substantively relative the subject of the interview - conducted by Toure - Shriver did very well; and it wasn't necessary that he be 'bulletproof' with his presentation, because what he had to say effectively shot holes in Toure's presumptions.
Alex Shriver's offense negated any need to play defense.
"I would have been curious to know if there was any discussion regarding the issues that the youth are concerned about, and whether or not Obama's defense of his handling of the economy will be acceptable to them."
On MSNBC?
YHGTBFKM.
MD
Matthew Dean
Submitted by Mattheus on Thu, 06/28/2012 - 1:22am.
I probably should have said that I watched the whole clip as presented on Newsbusters, but I didn't see the entire MSNBC program. In watching the Newsbusters clip, I didn't see Toure get schooled, I saw Alex Shriver respond to an assumption Toure made regarding young voters.
If someone said, "Wow, Tito Ortiz (of UFC fame) got laid out last night. I have a clip of it.", and then you watched it and all you saw was Tito Ortiz getting hit in the face, you wouldn't conclude that he was really laid out. He might have been, but you didn't see any proof of it.
Likewise, if someone says, "Toure was schooled", I want to see Toure being schooled, not just Alex Shriver getting warmed up.
For all I know, maybe Alex Shriver really did "school" Toure, but it is hardly obvious from the clip. It's basically only part of the fight. Alex Shriver didn't shut down Toure where he couldn't have a good response in kind.
Toure: "Most young people tend to be Democrats. It's been that way for a long time."
Shriver: "History says that's not true. Republicans have won the youth vote three times in the modern era. We actually came within two points of tying it in 2000...."
Shriver basically contradicts himself. He says that "history says that's not true"., and goes on to explain that Republicans have won the youth vote three times in the modern era. Three times is not a lot of times in the "modern era". So it has been a total of three and almost four times in the "modern era" that Republicans have won the youth vote. While that doesn't necessarily mean that most young people tend to be Democrats, (they could tend to be Independents), it does lend credibility to what Toure is saying.
Shriver also opens himself up in other ways. He basically focuses on the economy, and treats the "youth vote" as if it was monolithic. But the youth are not just white youth, but black youth, Latino youth, gay youth, women youth, and that puts a very different spin on things. Toure could have pointed that out as well. He could have made Shriver look bad by pointing out that focusing on the economy fits the stereotype of the "greedy Republican" that only cares about money even when there are also moral issues involved in the Presidential election.
Disagree, Mattheus, as Toure is a ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 06/28/2012 - 2:59am.
totally bigoted individual - which sets up obvious obstacles for conducting supposedly 'neutral' interviews - on most any subject in today's society; and for you, after the fact, to point out what the racist fool "could have "said in rebuttal is nothing more than making excuses for him.
Whether it was your intention or not, you come across as either wanting to support Toure, coddle him, or defend him. This becomes even more evident when you deign to give Shriver only backhanded compliments at best.
The import of your 'explanatory' reply post is that of merely defending your contention that Toure was not schooled.
I note nothing I would consider proof that he was not.
Other than your opinion, that is.
MD
It's all opinion
Submitted by Mattheus on Thu, 06/28/2012 - 3:53pm.
I think we can agree that conservatives in general are put into the "lion's den" when they appear on MSNBC, and Toure would hardly be a 'neutral' interviewer. So any conservative guest is already not going to have an easy time of it.
To me, being schooled means that your opponent demonstrates with facts and logic, the fallacy of your position, and your arguments are reduced to nothing. I would have loved to have seen this happen with Toure. I would have loved to have seen the typical liberal condescending attitude turned around on its head. All I saw however, was Shriver respond to something that Toure said, but there was no indication that Toure's argument was reduced to nothing.
What's missing is Toure's reaction to what Shriver said. If Toure was schooled, I would want to see Toure fumbling, scrambling for words, saying uhhh and ahhh, ignoring what was just said, a dazed and confused look. That's the kind of thing you want to see, but the clip shows none of that.
Opinion, indeed, Mattheus; and oddly enough, ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 06/28/2012 - 6:29pm.
my opinion is that being 'schooled' should represent a hammering of the opponents talking points.
In that regard, reference the youth vote,Toure only had a headlock applied to him - as opposed to being wrestled to the ground.
MD
good
Submitted by vote24 on Wed, 06/27/2012 - 1:15pm.
Great job schooling Tourettes, but honestly has Tourettes ever one time appeared with a conservative and NOT been schooled.