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NewsBusters' Sheppard Debates Media Firestorm Over Gay Romney Adviser With CNN's Lemon

By NB Staff | May 07, 2012 | 11:34

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An openly gay adviser to Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney resigned last week, and the Obama-loving media interested in discussing anything but the poor economy jumped all over it.

NewsBusters associate editor Noel Sheppard discussed this with Don Lemon on CNN Newsroom Saturday (video follows with transcript and commentary):

DON LEMON, HOST: Will the real Mitt Romney please stand up? You've heard the rap against him, that his views on some very big issues have changed over time. So let's take gun control, for example, then and now.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS)

MITT ROMNEY, FORMER MASSACHUSETTS GOVERNOR: We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts. I support them. I won't chip away at them. I believe they help protect us.

MITT ROMNEY, REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: You know, we need a president who will enforce current laws, not create new ones that only serve to burden lawful gun owners. President Obama has not, I will. We need a president who will stand up for the rights of hunters and sportsman and those who seek to protect their homes and their families. President Obama has not. I will.

(END VIDEO CLIPS)

LEMON: And you've heard even people in his own party saying he's going to flip-flop on health care and he also did it on the womans’ right to choose on abortion. So, and then there’s this: Romney’s foreign policy spokesman quit after just two weeks on the job. Richard Grenell was outspoken, he's openly gay, and he had posted some controversial tweets. So he had his critics within the party, right?

But Grenell’s quick exit spotlights a question that has shadowed Mitt Romney’s career: is there any cause or concern at Romney’s core? Is there anything at his core, any issue on which he will not budge?

So let's talk about that now with two conservatives. Welcome back Noel Sheppard, welcome back, NewsBusters, and Republican strategist Ana Navarro. Good to see both of you.

Alright, so, let me have it, and I'll let you have it. Yesterday Romney said his team encouraged Grenell to stay on the job. He told Fox News that he hires people quote “not based upon their ethnicity or sexual preference or gender but upon their capability." “We are very sorry to have him go.”

Okay, so ladies first, and I’m not being sexist. So, why not do this before he steps down, or however it happened behind the scenes? Who knows? Why not stand up for the guy before instead of after the fact, Ana?

After Navarro said her piece, Sheppard got his chance:

LEMON: Noel, go ahead, what do you think?

NOEL SHEPPARD, ASSOCIATE EDITOR NEWSBUSTERS: Okay, here is what I think, and this might shock you or may not. I think about three weeks ago, Reuters/Ipsos did a poll asking for people's top priority in this election. And 53 percent said jobs and the economy, fourteen percent said health care, nine percent said family values. Nowhere in this mix was gay rights issues.

I think the reason why we're talking about this, and the reason why it has exploded on Mitt Romney is because the economy is terrible, the Obama administration, the Obama campaign don't want to talk about the economy. They want to talk about extraneous issues, and conceivably important ones, but not issues that the public are extraordinarily concerned with. Right now the public…

LEMON: Okay, Noel, go ahead, you can finish your thought, and I understand what you're saying. The public, the public, it's about jobs, I get that. But Noel, quite honestly, that's a talking point because Grenell, this wasn't about gay rights. This was about foreign policy. He just happened to be openly gay. And there were some things with tweets, but this wasn’t, he is not in the job for foreign policy to make an issue out of gay rights. That logic does not…

"He is not in the job for foreign policy to make an issue out of gay rights."

No, he wasn't. But that’s why the media were all over this including Lemon.

The segment began with Lemon addressing previous flipflops on issues by Romney. He then specifically made a point about Grenell being “openly gay” before saying, “But Grenell’s quick exit spotlights a question that has shadowed Mitt Romney’s career: is there any cause or concern at Romney’s core? Is there anything at his core, any issue on which he will not budge?"

The issue at hand here that Lemon wanted to address was gay rights and how it pertains to Romney.

What Sheppard did was expose that gay rights is not currently a pressing issue on the minds of voters, but that this is yet another thing Obama and his media minions would like to focus on to distract the public from what they really care about – the economy.

The discussion continued:

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SHEPPARD: And I very much agree with that. And you know what? Foreign policy in that Reuters poll was down at five percent.

LEMON: But you're not explaining why he had, you’re not giving a good reason for why he had to step down, and that didn't have to do with gay rights. He wasn’t making it an issue.

That’s correct. It’s the media that made it a gay rights issue because they’d rather talk about anything other than how lousy the economy is.

Consider that this discussion took place the day after the Labor Department released horrible numbers about job creations in April. There were other terrible economic stats that emerged in the prior week involving real estate, durable goods, consumer spending, as well as the very disappointing first quarter GDP estimate.

Instead of discussing those issues Saturday night – issues that every poll including the one Sheppard referred to show are front and center on the minds of the American people – Lemon chose to address a social issue that although important doesn’t appear on most national priority surveys.

This of course is what the media have been doing all year beginning with the contraception issue in January to the student loan issue last month and now Romney’s gay adviser.

Everything is important to the media EXCEPT the state of the economy.

Sheppard continued:

SHEPPARD: I don't think that this issue was handled well by Romney, although what we know about this is Romney wanted him to come back. Romney was not interested in him leaving. Apparently this man resigned of his own volition. So how is that Romney’s fault that someone resigned because he was potentially feeling uncomfortable about his position? And Romney has come out and said, “I’d like…”

LEMON: I understand that, but we have to run for time purposes. We’re very heavy here. But the thing is is that, yes, why would, my question was, is there anything he won't -- is there anything he won't, you know, not back down about? And, and why not step up for the guy, stand up for the guy beforehand instead of after? That’s a question I asked Ana and that’s the one I ask you.

Actually, Romney stood up for the guy by hiring him. How else could he have stood up for him “beforehand?”

Should Romney have held a press conference addressing an issue that hadn’t happened yet and told people that if his new adviser gets into a Twitter fight with detractors and then deletes a bunch of tweets he’ll support him for doing so?

This whole media firestorm over this matter has been completely disingenuous – surprise, surprise – for this involved Grenell and not Romney.

It was Grenell's decision to resign. There’s absolutely no evidence that he did so due to pressure from either Romney or the campaign.

Quite the contrary, Romney said Friday he wanted Grenell to come back.

So exactly what more could Romney do to satisfy media hell-bent on discussing anything other than the poor state of the economy?

Obviously, nothing.

When Sheppard got his chance to respond to Lemon’s question, he did his best to explain this:

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SHEPPARD: The reality is that both of the presidential candidates at this point, Romney and Obama, have flip-flopped on their position with regard to gay rights, in particular same-sex marriage.

LEMON: Right. Absolutely.

SHEPPARD: We know that Obama in 1996 when he was a state senator was for same-sex marriage, and in 2008, he changed. Well, in 1994, when Romney was --

LEMON: Noel, you're right. I don’t think you understand what I’m saying. This is not about gay rights.

This is not about gay rights? Of course this is about gay rights. That’s what the entire media firestorm has been about since Grenell resigned and why Lemon brought the matter up.

Would anybody have cared if a straight white guy left the Romney campaign after getting into a Twitter fight with detractors over his position on national security for example?

Of course not.

This fits the Obama campaign’s zeal to paint Romney as an extreme right-winger on social issues, and his obedient media assisted in disseminating the misinformation much as they have since they out of nowhere began asking Republican presidential candidates in January about their position on birth control roughly two weeks before the White House issued a new contraception edict.

Now a little over three months later they all pounced on this matter to try to make Romney appear as a homophobe who's opposed to gay rights issues, and despite this being the clear implication in Lemon’s introduction, he was now claiming, “This is not about gay rights”:

LEMON: What I'm saying is why not stand up for the guy beforehand? Even Rick Santorum…

SHEPPARD: He did. He said he would hire him back.

LEMON: Okay, good. But even Rick Santorum stood up for his friend who people outed who was a gay friend. I had a conversation with him. It appears from some people from the outside looking in that Mitt Romney didn't stand up for someone that he hired and someone he had respect for and then after the fact he’s back-pedaling.

As you can see, this clearly WAS about gay rights issues despite Lemon's protests to the contrary: "But even Rick Santorum stood up for his friend who people outed who was a gay friend."

And no matter what Romney did, he wasn't going to be able to satisfy his media detractors:

SHEPPARD: But he's already come out and said that he’d hire him back, that he’d like him back. So what more can he do?

Indeed, as for the Obama-loving media looking to turn everything that happens in the Romney campaign to an advantage for the current White House resident they want desperately to get reelected, the answer is nothing.

Would that be the case if Obama were the Republican seeking reelection and Romney the Democratic challenger?

Just look back at 1992 for your answer.

Back then, all the media wanted to talk about - with the obvious approval of the Clinton campaign - WAS the economy.

Keep in mind that at this same point 20 years ago, the Commerce Department had just announced the GDP expanded a staggering 4.5 percent in the first quarter. This was up from the fourth quarter's 1.6 percent.

As such, the economy was starting to explode.

Unfortunately, this hadn't translated into a hiring boom yet as unemployment was still at 7.4 percent.

But added together, the economy when Clinton tried to unseat a White House resident was far better than what we have today.

The Commerce Department reported two Fridays ago that GDP dropped to a disappointing 2.2 percent in the first quarter down from the fourth quarter's 3.0 percent growth. And unemployment is still above 8 percent.

Yet compared to 20 years ago when the media only wanted to talk about the supposedly bad economy irrespective of the boom that was starting before their very eyes, today's press only want to talk about social issues despite the economy being in far worse shape.

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Don Lemon logic:

Submitted by HockeyKid on Mon, 05/07/2012 - 11:57am.

"Now, this doesn't have anything to do with racism; that's not the issue. Here's my question: do you think people voted against Barack Obama because he's black?"

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Who cares??!!!!

Submitted by c5then on Mon, 05/07/2012 - 12:03pm.

People join and leave political campaign all the time. Is the person's attraction to aspecific type of person really important? Was he chosen because he was the best person for the job, or because he was "gay" and the campaign got "points" for that?

We've had our first affirmative action President and it didn't work out too well, we certaintly don't need to be picking advisors and staff members for the next President based on the minority qualifications.

 

Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it! 

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I can't believe the GOP is forcing me to have to...

Submitted by stage9 on Mon, 05/07/2012 - 12:08pm.

agree with liberal radicals! That's what makes me angry! I can't stand CNN and I loathe liberalism with a passion, but liberals aren't stupid....at least not on this subject...the GOP can deflect all they want, but they've set themselves up for failure. If they lose they will have done so by single-handedly nominating the worst candidate you could possibly nominate at this time in American history. (or ANY TIME IMO) Morally, our nation is hanging on the brink, and despite the poll numbers from the ridiculously uninformed, at the bottom of this entire debate on the economy is morality. We are in the mess we're in SPECIFICALLY because we have lost our way morally.

Greed is a moral issue. Debating liberal secular values is a moral issue. Healthcare is a moral issue. The future direction of our nation is of MAJOR moral consequence! Do you want a godless immoral secular state? or a god-fearing morally aware charitable state? How you answer that will determine how you and your family will fare in the years to come. Choose wisely.

As for Obamney, he has proven himself to condone the murder of the unborn and the promotion of homosexuality consistently. He is a liar and a phoney. And the fact that the degenerate, incompetents in DC ignored some really GREAT CONSERVATIVE candidates for this fool shows they no more have the pulse of America than the left wing radicals do. The GOP leadership is a disgrace and to continue to defend them and their "moderate from Massachusetts" (or "liberal" to the thinking person) makes us complicit in their disgrace as well.

May the God we've so desperately tried to forget have mercy on America, either way, we're going to need it.

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Bad Noel!

Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 05/07/2012 - 12:10pm.

LOL, refusing to accept the premise of Don Lemon's questions from the left, each and every time. You could tell he really didn't like that.

Great job! And of course, as the Recording Secretary of the Pesky Fact Club (Gary Hall, President), I award you a 6 on a scale of 1 - 5 for presenting pertinent facts.

Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)

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JJ

Submitted by Noel Sheppard on Mon, 05/07/2012 - 12:21pm.

JJ,

I humbly accept. :-) ns

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You acutally made a great point

Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Mon, 05/07/2012 - 1:14pm.

One that I made to a liberal FB friend: that this is an irrelevant non-issue, being used by the left to score political points, curry favor with the gay lobby, and for a little dose of moral superiority to boot.

Your recognizing that in the face of important issues, like the economy and foreign affairs, the departure from Mitt's campaign by some gay dude isn't all that important, seemed to take Don aback.

Nice job.

"I don't like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders". - Ted Nugent
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Extra point is for dealing with the Lemon theory of relativity

Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 05/07/2012 - 3:21pm.

Geez Noel, That's some fast thinking there!

LEMON: What I'm saying is why not stand up for the guy beforehand?

Talk about coming out of left field, hurry give an answer before the question gets there.

There is just no preparation possible for going on any of these lefty shows.

You Didn't Build That.

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Actually, I awarded the bonus point

Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 05/07/2012 - 4:35pm.

.....for dealing with that nonsense question MORE than once! Since Don seemed fixated on it, and it was an idiot point.

Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)

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The Obama Psychophants

Submitted by HardRightTurn on Mon, 05/07/2012 - 12:11pm.

Leftists will accuse you of being homosexual and homophobic at the same time. Is this not after all their naturally projected state?

To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html

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A few more pesky's for Don Lemon

Submitted by Gary Hall on Mon, 05/07/2012 - 12:38pm.

And with due respect to Blonde - I'll offer a few more pesky ones. What great fun, Noel.

DON LEMON: Will the real Mitt Romney please stand up? You've heard the rap against him, that his views on some very big issues have changed over time.

Since this is really all about media bias - why not come back with the rebuttal of:

Will the real Barrack Obama please stand up? You've heard the rap against him - he flipped on taxes, on lobbyists ("we will not take a dime from lobbyists or special interest groups" --  "we will change the way Washington works"),  on Gitmo, on rendition, and he's soon to flip on gay marriage (if we're reading the cards correctly).

Next:

Lemon: Yesterday Romney said his team encouraged Grenell to stay on the job. He told Fox News that he hires people quote “not based upon their ethnicity or sexual preference or gender but upon their capability." “We are very sorry to have him go.” [..]  So, why not do this before he steps down, or however it happened behind the scenes? Who knows? Why not stand up for the guy before instead of after the fact, Ana?

How about, "Did you, and the MSM, take such a stand when Van Jones was let go on a Friday evening?

When, Obama walked away from his pastor of 2 decades?

Mr. Lemon, do you call Obama a "flip flopper?" Do you ask for the real Obama to stand up?

(;~> gary
 

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Wasn't a good Noel performance

Submitted by Mattheus on Mon, 05/07/2012 - 1:43pm.

Unfortunately, from the clip above, Noel didn't do such a good job in Romney's defense. Noel threw out a red herring about what "Americans really care about" and a "tu quoque" attack in regards to Obama, (i.e.: "Obama's a flip-flopper too"). Essentially, Noel sounded like he was spouting off talking points rather than taking on Lemon's questions. The "what Americans really care about" defense is really morally ugly. The liberals used it back in 2008 with abortion. The idea that the economy is somehow more important than the moral debates that continue to come up is just plain wrong and evil. I didn't think this would ever be a conservative defense. Unfortunately, Romney has to figure out how he is going to play his hand. Is he going to continue to pretend he is conservative, or is Romney going to "come out" as the liberal that we already know him to be anyway? The fact that Romney hired someone "openly gay" already shows his liberal chops, as being openly gay is per se a liberal political act. So why pretend Romney, just play it as "Obama 2.0" and see what happens. Maybe the honesty will be refreshing for a lot of voters, and you will win.
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Honestly,

Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 05/07/2012 - 1:49pm.

The idea that the economy is somehow more important than the moral debates that continue to come up is just plain wrong and evil.

Are you serious? So the fact that the economy is going down the crapper is fine, but we must get to the bottom of why a Romney staffer quit. Good grief

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Yeah, honestly

Submitted by Mattheus on Mon, 05/07/2012 - 4:29pm.

What good is your talk about the economy if I can't trust a single thing you say? What good is your talk about the economy if you will always act in ways that are politically expedient, rather than what you believe in?

When someone running as a conservative hires an openly-gay advisor, and that person quits after facing some pressure to do so, there are some valid questions to be asked that speak to Romney's character. And to say that the economy is more important plays well to the "fiscal-only" Republicans, but I want to know what kind of man the Republican candidate is.

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Where did this pressure come from?

Submitted by Blonde on Mon, 05/07/2012 - 4:38pm.

From Mitt?

I have no idea.....and Don Lemon didn't mention it either. So exactly what was Noel supposed to say, hmmmm?

If Lemon is so intellectually lazy as to pose a question, without informing his viewers.....why should the onus be on Noel to inform them?

And truly....Noel was spot-on. A very tiny tiny segment of the American population gives a rat's ass about gay marriage & all of the other LGBT issues.

It's the Economy, Stupid! Nothing else really matters.

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Oh, I get it

Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 05/07/2012 - 4:45pm.

I thought you had a relevant point to make.

But you just hate Mitt. Next your going to tell us theres no difference between Mitt and Obama, eh.

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Go Noel!

Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 05/07/2012 - 4:53pm.

You got it, very few people care about more than the economy right now. Certainly the issue of one gay guy quitting after making the pretty bad tweets he made isn't a big deal. I love the way you kept the focus off the gay agenda.

As far as Romney changing positions, his role as governor is far different than the role of president. As governor, you have a responsibility to your state that as a president, you don't have authority over.

Noel, I don't think you'll be invited back, which means you done good.

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Noel, you appear to have taken Lemon's premise and ran with it.

Submitted by Rush Fan on Mon, 05/07/2012 - 6:49pm.

You made a strong argument for Romney, by correctly saying "although what we know about this is Romney wanted him to come back. Romney was not interested in him leaving. Apparently this man resigned of his own volition. So how is that Romney’s fault that someone resigned because he was potentially feeling uncomfortable about his position?

Good question. So why would you preface your argument with, and give Lemon what he was looking for by saying: "I don't think that this issue was handled well by Romney"? It seems to me, based on your strong argument, that Romney handled that issue as well as he could.

Ana Navarro represents Republicans, and specifically Romney, as well as "Conservative Talking Heads" such as David Frum and Kathleen Parker. Navarro was the national co-chair of John McCain's Hispanic Advisory Council in 2008, and she is as much a RINO as McCain. That is why the Leftist media, such as CNN, use her to represent "The Republican Side".

Navarro was on CNN, April 2 discussing Romney's supposed "issues" with women voters. Here is the VIDEO and here is the Transcript. At the 3:20 mark Navarro blames Rush Limbaugh for Romney's "issues" with women voters. Why am I not surprised?

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RF

Submitted by Noel Sheppard on Mon, 05/07/2012 - 9:56pm.

RF,

In sales, marketing, and diplomacy what I did there is called "backing and filling." I gave a little ground to calm my opponent down so that I could take more.

My last two encounters with Don have been far less contentious. Previously, he was more interested in listening than filibustering. This time he seemed anxious to quickly rebut. So rather than completely disagreeing with him or talking over him, I made a concession so that the conversation would ratchet down a tad rather than flare up into a shouting match.

This isn't as easy as it seems especially as I can't see who I'm talking to. He's at a tremendous advantage because he has monitors showing both of his guests. The guests don't. As such, we can't respond to visual cues about how he's reacting. We're literally blind.

From my ear, I realized that I had totally blind-sided him with my answer, and that he was annoyed by it. So rather than let the interview spiral down into the toilet, a gave some yardage to try to recover it. Quite frankly, I think my strategy worked extremely well despite your displeasure with it.

This is only the sixth time I've been on national television, and only the fourth time live. This is also only the third time I've been on with a liberal anchor as opposed to a conservative one. Please keep this in mind as I try to appear civil whilst getting my point heard in the presence of a possibly antagonistic host. ns

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Noel....Thanks for the reply. I not only have a better

Submitted by Rush Fan on Tue, 05/08/2012 - 1:23am.

understanding of the television interview process, but you also have reminded me that it is easy to play an armchair quarterback from the sidelines.

My initial comment focused on my one and only "displeasure' with your remarks. Overall, I thought you performed well. I especially liked it when you reminded Lemon (and the viewers) that gay rights is not a priority issue. Despite your lack of television face time, you come across as an experienced pundit. But after watching you on television a number of times, I've got to say: I thought you would be bigger.    :-)

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Who the heck hired the woman as a "Republican Strategist"?

Submitted by DaMav on Mon, 05/07/2012 - 9:38pm.

Her first answer could have been written by the DNC

And fwiw I'm tired of the homosexual lobby whining and carrying on about some homo getting his feelings hurt like it was the biggest issue in the election.

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