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Congressman Keith Ellison Says The Nazis Bombed Pearl Harbor

By Noel Sheppard | March 21, 2012 | 10:16

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Congressman Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) made some astonishingly ignorant statements during a discussion about the Iranian nuclear issue on Fox News's The O'Reilly Factor Tuesday.

The pièce de résistance was him telling host Bill O'Reilly that the Nazis bombed Pearl Harbor (video follows with transcript and commentary):

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CONGRESSMAN KEITH ELLISON (D-MINNESOTA): No, they [Iran] don’t have a weapon. They have not made a decision to do one. The inspections…

BILL O’REILLY, HOST: How would you know they have not made a decision to do one? How would you know that?

ELLISON: Because. I’m glad you asked. Because we have satellite technology. We have technology that can detect.

O’REILLY: They’re underground. The satellites can’t penetrate the earth. They’re underground.

ELLISON: We have inspections that have gone on.

O’REILLY: They won’t let the inspectors in as I’ve said three times.

ELLISON: Yes they have. There have been a number of inspections.

O’REILLY. No there haven’t. They went two weeks ago and they wouldn’t let them go in.

ELLISON: Well, Bill, I’m sorry, but I’m not going to back a war based on a maybe. 4,409 Americans are dead because somebody—

O’REILLY: Congressman, the reason we like you as a guest is because you’re an honest man, But I will point to history. I will point to history. The same mindset was taken when dealing with Nazi Germany. We’re not going to go in aggressive action. We don’t believe they’re going to do this. We don’t believe they’re going to do that. And they absolutely did everything. So I think you’ve got to learn from history.

ELLISON: Let me tell you in World War II, in World War II they attacked Pearl Harbor. That would be enough.

O’REILLY: No, this is the German theater not the Japanese.

The Nazis bombed Pearl Harbor?

As Boon told Otter after Bluto made the same stupid comment in the hit comedy "Animal House," "Forget it, he's rolling."

Of course, the truly delicious "Life Imitates Art" irony is that John Belushi's immortal John Blutarsky character ended up becoming a United States Senator.

I guess knowledge of history isn't a prerequisite.

(H/T NB reader Rob S for the story and NB's Clay Waters for the delicious "Animal House" reference!)

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Yep. When you're "rolling"

Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:26am.

Yep. When you're "rolling" facts don't matter.

ELLISON: We have inspections that have gone on.

O’REILLY: They won’t let the inspectors in as I’ve said three times.

ELLISON: Yes they have. There have been a number of inspections.

O’REILLY. No there haven’t. They went two weeks ago and they wouldn’t let them go in.

Ah, Bill, Bill, Bill.....

Liberals know the truth.  The facts are a conspiracy.

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And this is one of the things

Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:59am.

And this is one of the things that really ticks me off about BOR.

Instead of engaging in a stupid "yes they did, no they didn't" exchange with Ellison, why didn't he just challenge him on it and ask point-blank when the last inspection ( or ANY inspection) took place?

Big talker.

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When?

Submitted by angelatc on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 3:03pm.

January. And just like every other inspection and intelligence report, they found no evidence that Iran was pursuing a nuclear bomb. http://huff.to/GDUol0

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It's alive

Submitted by Rukus on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 3:54pm.

You've been here over 5 years and your first link is to HuffingThePost? You could have done a lot of trolling in 5 years. Slacker.

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Probably HAS done a lot of

Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 5:15pm.

Probably HAS done a lot of trollling.
I suspect a troll with multiple reserve accounts.

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Aged Trolls

Submitted by Kingfish17 on Fri, 03/23/2012 - 10:10am.

There seems to be some of this going around, as of late: A one time troll poster, usually registered over five years, suddenly shows up, makes their first post, and never is seen again. I'm actually more inclined to believe that there is a glitch or flaw in the registration software that allows someone to create an account with a phony registration date, to make that person appear that they've been a NB poster forever.

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HAHAHAHA!

Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 5:13pm.

this is what you call found no evidence?

How did you come up with that conclusion? The article actually says they made no comment!!

 

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Are you kidding!!!???

Submitted by c5then on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:31am.

Knowledge of history is a detriment to these bafoons! That way they can be run by the party leaders and told to do what is expected of them. It's easier on their consciences if they are completely ignorant about what parts of history they are repeating.

After our intelligence failures in North Korea, Iraq, Lybia, Egypt, Syria, etc...this moron want's people to believe that we have any idea what decisions the Iranian leadership is making or even thinking about?

 

Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it! 

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My new racial sensibilities tell me 'ignorant' is a code word.

Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:46am.

Perhaps 'history-challenged' would have been a more PC choice.

;)

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Yep.

Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 10:52am.

Racist!!!!!

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Yep, SOL, ...

Submitted by Newsbubba on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:11am.

... you must not use "ig-nant" any mo, yo.  Go with DMF.  It appears in many of the lyrics of top 10 tunes nowadays, so I assume that it is acceptabl.

Watching Ellison, a Mooooooooooooooooslem by the way, reminds me of another favorite song, "Taqqiyya Makes (His) Clothes Fall Off."

If that were true, we would see a lot more nekkid liberals around than we would ever want to.

Comrade Bubba
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^^Like!!^^

Submitted by UpNorth on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:48am.

Bubba, you just gots to put up da beverage alerts, yo.

To re-elect Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and hitting the iceberg again.
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History, we don't need history

Submitted by Defuze1 on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:03am.

The sad part is that many colleges are dropping history from their core requirements, so we will see more of this ignorance.

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Yeah, we don't need History. We need more 'Women's Studies.'

Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:07am.

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Real history is a threat to the Left

Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 3:13pm.

Academia prefers to remove history from its chronological context and reorganize it under topical contexts, such as Black History or Women's History. In this way, history is reduced to the accounting of oppressors against the oppressed.

Real history -- particularly the history of failed socialist experiments -- is a threat to academia.

Regarding Rep. Ellison, and considering the Animal House reference, let's never forget that even Bluto Blutarsky eventually became a US Senator.

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I work at a university...

Submitted by NOLAgirl on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:12am.

We had a student trying to choose between two history classes. One class was world history to 1500 and the other was world history 1500 to present day. This student said "Wow, I didn't know anything happened before 1500".

God help us all.

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If it had been Obama

Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:15am.

He would have said "Wow, I didn't know anything happened before I was elected, but if it did, it was George Bush's fault!".

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Nice shot!!

Submitted by Newsbubba on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:18am.

  

Comrade Bubba
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She hung that one up there nice and high

Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:19am.

Someone had to take it.

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*Blonde

Submitted by NOLAgirl on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:28am.

That was indeed a good one! Sometimes I am so absolutely amazed at the drivel I hear coming out of our so-called future leaders mouths that I forget about the drivel coming out of our current leader's. You hit that one out of the park.

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LOL, I had a good "straight man"

Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:40am.

as I said.

Welcome here, NOLA. I suppose I'm going to have to count you as my loyal opposition in the SEC? LSU perhaps? That's okay, we all play nice (except with Jer, who is a Vol, so we rub it in as hard as we can, as often as we can, because we can!!! Fortunately, we are mostly without Bammers here).

It is truly sad what is taught in the schools these days. Susie has two mommies, here's how to put on a condom, but why should kids have to learn geometry or (real) history? We all knew Ellefsen was ignorant. He was merely taking his clue from Ear Leader......see #1 on my list of Obama's Gaffes.....he thought "a bomb" fell on Pearl Harbor. *rolls eyes* At least he didn't say the Nazis dropped it!!!

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Thanks, Blonde

Submitted by NOLAgirl on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 12:06pm.

for the welcome. I am indeed your loyal opposition; SEC all the way and an LSU fan (that isn't where I work, though). Poor Jer, I have seen the (well deserved)abuse heaped upon him by the posters here. ;) He is a good sport about it all, though. And honestly, it's probably a good thing there aren't too many Bammers here. It's hard enough to hold my head up (still) after that thrashing we took in the championship. Les Miles is bought and paid for, I truly believe, but that is another topic for another time. :)

I have read and enjoyed immensely, your list of Obama's gaffes. Thanks for taking the time to put all that together.

In my line of work I am saddened on a daily basis by the lack of interest in our history. Not to mention the lack of interest in education in general. I have young school age children, as well. I am always reading homework assignments, teacher comments, etc just to be sure they are being taught and not indoctrinated. One of my favorite assignments was the one my son was required to do on weapons of the cold war. He was in 2nd grade at the time. I'm sure the "two mommies" lesson is just around the corner, though.

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Well, no worries, then

Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 12:43pm.

And don't worry about the January beating, the Bammers beat us like red-headed steps a couple of years ago, too. It happens. Their time will come, though. As for Les....I truly believe he's insane. In a good way, of course.

Truly, it would be frightening to have children in public school these days. I hope you helped your son on the Cold War weapon with "Ronald Reagan". That would be enough to send the teacher around the bend. Oh, here's a joke I stole from Wrathful Bru, kind of the same topic, LOL.  It scares me to think of these Obamabots (like that woman in South Carolina who during the election made fun of the little girl whose father was serving because her family was for McCain) or that idiot with the lunch police gig. 

Glad you like the list....keep an eagle eye out, all additions gratefully welcomed!!!

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Almost as bad as Congressman

Submitted by ex buff e-dub on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 12:49pm.

Almost as bad as Congressman Hank Johnson's concern that Guam was going to tip over, if we stationed more troops there...

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Or Congressman Major Owens on the sharks

Submitted by frank14 on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 1:29pm.

still following the thousand mile trail from Africa to the New World hoping slave ships will be dumping dead bodies overboard. Dumbocrats know history!

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⇒ Thank you, Frank

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 3:54pm.

Just last week, I was racking my brain trying to think of that idiot's name.

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We REALLY need

Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 4:34pm.

"Like" buttons here.

+1,000 for both you and Frank!

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good one!

Submitted by NOLAgirl on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 11:02am.

The stupid things "smart" people say.

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What worries me, NOLA, ...

Submitted by Newsbubba on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:16am.

... is that I'm starting to think that God just may sit back on this and see if we can get our Shiite together to help ourselves before He steps in to give us a hand.

The Lord helps those who help themselves, or something like that, and We the People sure ain't doing much to help ourselves out of what we've created lately.

Comrade Bubba
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Have

Submitted by grammajane on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:25am.

to point out, living here in Minnesota. There are many itellegent folks here, Ellison is one that doesn't represent that group. Sorry about that.........

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Ellison isn't ignorant, gramma.

Submitted by Newsbubba on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:38am.

He's just a liar, but that is acceptable in his religion as long as it helps destroy the infidels.

Comrade Bubba
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You verified my hunch, bubba

Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:58am.

You verified my hunch, bubba - when I was reading this little article - I was thinkin' (Obamaspeak) that this dope was a mooooooooooslem, so it's no surprise that he's trying to 'get their back' with regards to Iran, even though Iran is NOT popular with other mooooooooooooslems. (But, hell, are ANY mooooooooooslems popular with each other??)

I just find it kind of odd - in theory- that he would be blaming Germany for this atrocity, since the Germans were 'doing Allah's will' by trying to kill all the Jews, and Germany and Iran were allies during that time - in fact, I think that is when the country's name was changed to 'Iran' - which mean 'Aryan'. You woulda thunk that he'd know it was the Japanese who bombed Pearl Harbor, because basically they hated EVERYBODY - and I'm sure that if they had to engage the moooooooooooooooslems back in that era, they would have treated 'the religion of peace' as badly as they treated everybody else!!!

I watched a really good documentary once about Gengis Khan (and, NO, John 'why the long face' Kerry did NOT narrate it!!), and when Khan sent an emmissary to Persia to find out some information, the Persians sent his head back in a box. For that, Khan marched into Persia, burned the damn place down, and killed hundreds of thousands of Persians................I'm thinkin' that they might have learned a lesson the hard way.

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The best part!

Submitted by Newsbubba on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 2:35pm.

If the Mooooooooooslems win, they will immediately start fighting each other, just like they always have when there was nobody else to fight with.  The Shiite heads hate the Sunni side uppers, and always will.

THEN, while they're kicking the camel dung out of each other, the commies will be plotting to blow the whole pack of fools to hell, since no one will be around to restrain them, and they don't want to have to put up with the bastards!

And you're right about my hero, GIN-Jus Khan (as John F-ing Kerry liked to say).  He would try diplomacy once.  If it didn't work out, it was over for his enemy.  His rules were (literally), surrender on day one, and you can all live, but you will pay tribute to my people, and we will run your cities.  Surrender on day two, and we will just kill all the males.  The women can stick around for our pleasure.  On day three, you all die, your city disappears from the face of the earth, and we move on to the next city.

It only took a couple of cities before the people started throwing their rulers off the wall and surrendering ASAP.

We should offer Iran the same deal.

Comrade Bubba
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Sounds like good rules,

Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 5:04pm.

Sounds like good rules, perhaps we should adopt them.

Nuke em til they glow; then shoot em in the dark
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Eh, not that big a blunder

Submitted by gopcongress on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 11:56am.

Sorry, while I Ellison is incorrect, the magnitude of the mistake isn't important. I'm sure he meant the "axis," not the "nazis."

Notwithstanding his other claims, though, about Iran, which I find 100 times worse than his error in transposing the name of our WW2 enemies.

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I agree. This is silly. This

Submitted by goldwater89 on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 12:08pm.

I agree. This is silly. This was a bad interview to begin with. O'Reilly wouldn't let the guy finish a sentence.

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The "axis?"

Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 1:34pm.

The "axis" didn't bomb Pearl harbor ether. Japan attacked unilaterally, never having informed Germany of its plans.

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Technically, you are correct

Submitted by gopcongress on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 5:54pm.

Technically, you are correct. The Japanese pulled off the biggest military blunder of the century attacking Pearl Harbor. If they would have attacked Russia from the east instead, they would have been able to easily take over the eastern coastline at that time, allowing them to maintain their dominance of the Asian theater with no US interference, at least while FDR was in office. THAT would have been a true "axis" strategy.

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Japan did fight Russia in WW2, prior to 1945

Submitted by Kingfish17 on Fri, 03/23/2012 - 10:40am.

The Japanese and Russians did fight each other in WW2 prior to 1945. The Japanese army in China had success, but that was because of the poor state and factional nature of the Chinese military. When the Japanese tried to invade Russia itself in 1939, the results were terrible. The Japanese army was not equipped to take on the Soviet Union in a large scale land war in East Asia. One can argue that their timing was poor, but after the battles fought in 1939, the Japanese never wanted anything more to do with fighting the Soviets.

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The dumbest part of that interview...

Submitted by tanstaafl4 on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 12:16pm.

Was O'Reilly calling Keith Ellison an "honest man".

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Iran is to be trusted and

Submitted by ant on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 12:46pm.

Iran is to be trusted and taken at their word, the TeaParty, on the other hand......

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This was a bad interview...

Submitted by sherlock1 on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 2:01pm.

"This was a bad interview to begin with. O'Reilly wouldn't let the guy finish a sentence."

By that standard, O'Reilly has never conducted a good interview! I can't stand his boorish ways, even though I am a conservative.

Related: When BOR was on David Letterman a year or so ago, Letterman started off by telling him that he thought BOR's opinions were all BS, and the audience cheered like crazy.

But then BOR asked Letterman if he had ever watched the show, and after Letterman stumbled and mumbled that he had not, the audience gave some grudging applause for BOR. This is the only time I recall seeing BOR following the very effective (and entertaining) interviewing technique of allowing the other person enough rope to hang himself.

Usually BOR talks over his guests so rudely that it generates sympathy for them, no matter how odious their positions are, and in the case of guests you respect and want to hear (Dennis Miller for example) it is downright infuriating!

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Japan attacked unilaterally...

Submitted by sherlock1 on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 2:10pm.

"Japan attacked unilaterally, never having informed Germany of its plans."

And 10 days later Hitler declared war on the US, prior to any US declaration to Germany. I have read Churchill's History of WWII, and as I recall it has a very entertaining account of Chrchill's reaction to that declaration - overjoyed would be an understatement. I believe he said something to the effect that "The fool, Hitler has delivered himself into my hands!"

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I thought Churchill told an aide . . .

Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 3:10pm.

. . . "We've won!"

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The Right Honourable gentleman's words

Submitted by Unsane on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 3:35pm.

"So we have won after all." was what The Right Honourable Churchill said. This according to John Keegan.

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What was it Yamamoto said?

Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 3:32pm.

"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."

Yamamoto sure hit the nail on the head with that one!

Not much has been said about Hitler's reaction to Pearl Harbor, but, based upon his previous efforts to keep the US out of war with the Axis, it must have been along the line of "Damn it!"

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Running wild

Submitted by Unsane on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 3:33pm.

Actually he said something like "Now we can run wild for six months." Considering the Battle of Midway came almost exactly six months after Pearl Harbor, those words were eerily prophetic.

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Good evening Cobra and Unsane

Submitted by cocodrie on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 3:39pm.

He also said they could never invade our mainland because there would be a rifle behind eavery blade of grass. Obabble and Holder are trying to fix that for us. Obabble has already fixed Egypt and Syria and has the middle east well under way. We're next right after Israel.

 

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Hilter was correct.

Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 3:45pm.

Hitler was correct, there were plenty of rifles laying around Nazi occupied territories prior to D-Day. But, alas, he very few people left to actually use them by the time they were needed!

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Big mistake on his part!

Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 3:39pm.

Didn't that six months of "running wild" start with his ill-fated invasion of Russia? Six months, that's about all the time that Nazi's actually "ran wild" in Russia. After that, it was all over but the dying for the Germans, three years of dying, by the millions!

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Wrong side of the globe

Submitted by Unsane on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 3:43pm.

Yamamoto was the one, IIRC, who spoke of "running wild". If not him, then someone else in the Imperial Japanese Navy. Not the Nazis.

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My mistake

Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 4:09pm.

You're right, my mistake.

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I see it now....

Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 8:53pm.

Drat! I see how I screwed it up! My bad, CobraMan.

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Heyyyyyy, that is racist or something

Submitted by David Kramer on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 3:11pm.

to point out the ignorance of our Minnesota Muslim! Don't you know that Democrats are the smawtest people evah!

If you do not believe it, just ask em!

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What does him being a Muslim

Submitted by goldwater89 on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 3:40pm.

What does him being a Muslim have to do with any of this?

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⇒ goldwater

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 3:44pm.

Fetch us a list of Congress members who support Iran developing a nuke and report back to us.

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Laughable

Submitted by Unsane on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 3:47pm.

This laughable question coming from someone who would be the first to attack Mr. Ellison if he were a Republican.  

You don't care about him being Muslim either (as I do not), so save it.  Because he is a member of the Democratic party, an organization you want to rule America completely unopposed, you will fight and die for him. 

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People should care

Submitted by jon_torlin on Wed, 03/21/2012 - 4:47pm.

And there's a simple reason as to why:

The very foundation of what a Muslim is violates the US Constitution, Islam has absolutely no place in this country.  Anything that practices honor killings(murder in this country), slavery(illegal to own slaves in this country), castes(there are no second class citizens in this country), and other things violate the laws of the land.  But there's been pushes by many judges to allow those things to happen under Sharia even though that violates the oath of office to the US Constitution on the part of those judges.

Hell, it was a violation of the oath of office for Ellison to swear on the Koran, even if it was the two book version that belonged to Thomas Jefferson, and by Ellison doing that, that was a coup against America's laws.  Jefferson used those books to help defeat the Barbary pirates, Ellison used those books to say "screw you, Islam is coming."

The same thing goes if someone is a card carrying Communist or anything that is contrary to what being an American is about.

I could say that's how I feel about it, but it's also the truth.  And the dems KNOW it and they try to change it all the time.

-Jon

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Hmmm...

Submitted by Unsane on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 8:54pm.

Hell, it was a violation of the oath of office for Ellison to swear on the Koran,  In what way?

 

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This way

Submitted by jon_torlin on Fri, 03/23/2012 - 11:06am.

Because the Koran is the antithesis of what makes America a free country, the Koran being part of being a Muslim.  It's the opposite of the Holy Bible.

-Jon

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Hmmmm...

Submitted by Unsane on Fri, 03/23/2012 - 1:28pm.

I still don't see how that is a violation of law. When I have taken oaths, you know what book I placed my hand on?

None.

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When I was sworn in to the local environmental committee,

Submitted by SickofLibs on Fri, 03/23/2012 - 1:39pm.

I wanted to place my hand on Jenna Jameson, but she was in Europe at the time.

Shawn will back me up on this - he was there, although he did go home somewhat disappointed.

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Don't worry for Ellison

Submitted by ant on Thu, 03/22/2012 - 1:13pm.

Fellow Democrat Sheila Jackson-Lee corrected him, reminding him it was the Nazis that planted 'that flag on Mars'.

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