Heilemann Falsely Claims GOP Becoming 'Whiter,' 'More Blue Collar' and 'Less Well-Educated'
On HBO's Real Time Friday, New York magazine's John Heilemann trotted out the same old tired and completely false cliches about the GOP that Americans are going to hear ad nauseum for the next eight months.
"The Republican Party is becoming just truly is becoming a whiter, more blue collar, more populist, less well-educated party" (video follows with transcript and commentary):
JOHN HEILEMANN, NEW YORK MAGAZINE: Yeah, and look, I mean, I think it's an amazing thing in the sense that, you know, James and I were talking about this before. The Republican Party is becoming just truly is becoming a whiter, more blue collar, more populist, less well-educated party, and more and more a religious party. And they cater to that base and just in a systematic way are making it impossible for them to win national elections. They are, you know, driving first Hispanics out of the party. They're driving women increasingly out of the party. And they find these places where they think they can get narrow advantage and then they go too far. And this is one of the instances that I think is, there's a logic to it, but it’s a faulty logic.
Do facts actually bear this out?
Let's start with gender, as the recent media meme is that Republicans are driving women away.
In 2008, according to exit polls, 56 percent of women voted for Obama, and 43 percent went for McCain.
Yet two years later in the 2010 midterm elections, 49 percent of women voted for a Republican in the House versus 48 percent for a Democrat. As such, contrary to Heilemann's view, Republicans gained female support in 2010.
As for "becoming whiter," four percent of African-Americans, 31 percent of Latinos, and 35 percent of Asians voted for McCain in 2008. In 2010, these numbers jumped to nine percent, 38 percent, and 40 percent for House Republicans respectively. As such, contrary to Heilemann's view, Republicans gained minority support in 2010.
As for "more blue collar," McCain got 49 percent of folks making $50k or more and 49 percent of people making $100k or more. In 2010, House Republicans got 55 percent and 58 percent respectively. As such, contrary to Heilemann's view, Republicans became less blue collar in 2010.
Finally, as for education, let's be clear: in 2010 much as in 2008, the overwhelming percentage of folks without high school diplomas went Democrat. In 2008, 63 percent of high school dropouts voted for Obama. This number was 57 percent for House Democrats in 2010.
No matter how folks like Heilemann want to spin it, the least educated in this country virtually always vote for Democrats. Period!
As for the most-educated - meaning post-graduate degrees - Republicans improved on this number in 2010 garnering 45 percent of their vote versus McCain's 40 percent.
Across every other education level, Republicans improved their numbers from 2008 getting 52 percent of high school graduates, 53 percent of folks with some college, and 58 percent of college graduates.
Add it all up, and Heilemann was wrong on all counts. Yet this man is a revered contributor to MSNBC.
Tells you a lot about that farce of a so-called "news" network, doesn't it?
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Hey dumbo, I'm 'white',
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 12:57pm.
Hey dumbo, I'm 'white', 'blue-collar'. and not particulary well educated...............you've got a problem with that??? Now, who would the average person want to get into a tough situation with - you or me??? What'd'you have, meat??? You're some tilley lib queebie who writes dumb articles for some rag that is only read by other tilley queeb-assed libs...............what productive contribution to you make to society???
old jedi mind trick
Submitted by MidAmerica on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 1:03pm.
The Libs know that a large number of their previous supporters are a little shaky so they are doing preemptive 'mind control' in it's descriptions of Republicans:
"This is not the Party you are looking for".
This guy is
Submitted by fivestring_assassin on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 1:05pm.
just "smart" enough to read the DNC and Obama White House Propaganda memos
Plus, he's a regular on MSNBC, which only employs racists and lunatics,,,of which he is clearly both
So stupid, so white, so 'blue
Submitted by clancie on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 1:21pm.
So stupid, so white, so 'blue colar'... can't even walk and chomp gum at the same time. And yet, we where a HUGE influence on the 2010 election. Interesting. :)
core samples
Submitted by MidAmerica on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 1:21pm.
When you drill down through the income/education strata of American life all of the different levels exhibit a varying combination of Lib versus Conservative mixtures until you reach the very bottom layer and there you will find almost pure democrat political gold.
Whup, there it is!
Submitted by CobraMan on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 1:46pm.
So, the GOP is the party of the average American, the lower class, church attending, blue collar worker while the Democrats have become the party of the Social Elite, the upper class, college educated, white collar "1 percenters." Nice of them to finally admit it!
By the way, liberals, it must surely get your panties in a twist to realize that it's the "minority" who are, by far and lager, the most religious people. For example: If the GOP is the Party of the Pope, as the liberals love to assert, then just about every Latino in the world will support them! There's not too many atheist Latinos, you know. The VAST majority of them are devout Catholics (which is why you'll rarely see a Latino on the news complaining about how the Pope, or religion in general, is "interfering" with politics. THEY support the Pope AND the freedom of religious expression, especially in politics!)! By attacking Catholicism, YOU just lost an entire ethnic demographic! That, alone, will be enough for you to lose the Presidential election. HA HA! Ain't Karma a bitch?
Think about it, Liberals. These are the people who are so devout in their religion that even their imprisoned criminals keep shrines to the Virgin Mary in their cells! Is this REALLY the kind of people you can realistically claim to represent when you scream, at the top of your lungs: There MUST be a Separation of Church and State?" That there's "no room" for religion in politcs? Come on, you can't actually be that stupid! Or can you?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
the democrats ant farm
Submitted by MidAmerica on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 1:28pm.
The democrats are the Party of poverty. Without millions of government dependent people with no education, job skills or self-reliance the democrats could not compete nationally.
Where have I heard of..........
Submitted by Qtaug on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 2:19pm.
John Heil "Hitler" Emann and/or New York Magazine? The answer is for her, NEVER, as for the "magazine," all I know is that my dog Sage loved it as a puppy!
Heilemann better hope that's not true,
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 2:27pm.
cause if it is, his boy is toast.
Oh, this clown again?
Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 2:30pm.
Yes, Heil Heilemann! Ve are in lockschtep with the elite class, but were dumb, and weve been infitrated by Jews, right, Herr?
Well, DANG!!
Submitted by Samaritan01 on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 2:59pm.
And here I thought that working on my Master's degree meant something, I guess not......
Wait What?
Submitted by proudamerican1990 on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 3:06pm.
I've never heard anyone at a Mitt Romney event say "OMG, He's going to pay my mortgage." or "Mitt's gonna put gas in my tank"
Uneducated?
To people like Heilemann, 'well educated' means communist...
Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 3:10pm.
...indoctrinated, which is about the only thing our institutions of government-run "higher learning" are good for these days.
Well, that and servicing 30 yo professional women's activist nymphos posing as 23 yo coeds.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Noel, who are you going to
Submitted by motherbelt on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 4:07pm.
Noel, who are you going to believe....Heilemann or your own lying research??
Don't forget motherbelt's axiom:
Liberals know the truth. The facts are a conspiracy.
Lying research - aye?
Submitted by Conservator on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 4:37pm.
Can you prove that Republicans are less well-educated? - NO. Do you have a problem with blue collar workers who are members of the working class that performs manual labor? If the Republican Party is becoming is becoming a whiter, doesn't that mean the Democratic Party is becoming darker?
If liberals know the truth so well, why are you unable to respond with FACTS rather than posting a doltish comment about Noel?
Good grief!
Submitted by motherbelt on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 4:46pm.
Do you not even recognize the riff on "Who are you going to believe, me or or your lying eyes?"
You don't know me; Noel does, and I'm sure he "got" the sarcasm.
I guess the last line went over your head too.
Before you lecture someone, make sure you know what you're talking about.
mb, A bolt of lighting out of the blue, moment.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 4:55pm.
Never know who going to sit down next to you at the vacant bar stool..NTTAWWT..
All the time you were wishing he just facebook his phone... Sheesh...lol
You Didn't Build That.
Yeah Conservator....you stepped in it this time
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 4:53pm.
I agree 100% w/ motherbelt's response to your post. You, sir, are in error here.
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I think the ol' Conservator
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 5:06pm.
I think the ol' Conservator put the cart in front of the horse on this one.................even a white, blue-collar, poorly-educated country bumpkin like me could catch the drift of her comment.
Potatoe Paradox, of containment,wishing for ah 1964
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 4:29pm.
Stewpid Lefties... lol ....As if The O'bama drill theory is Nobel prize worthy!
The only thing left, is to Hit that internet kill switch.
HINT: The internet runs on coal.
La De Da ...All of us steaming along on the internet...
Warning signs...
You Didn't Build That.
So, that means the Democrat
Submitted by motherbelt on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 4:37pm.
So, that means the Democrat party is expanding by increasing numbers of college-educated minorities?
Less Educated and Blue Collar do not mean stupid
Submitted by TSM on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 4:58pm.
I am so tired of the media and pundits confusing "less educated,' and "blue collar" with stupidity. I know a lot of blue collar people that are very well-read, informed, and have a ton of street smarts and common sense. Not to mention that many blue collar jobs require a higher education...just not an acedemic education. On the flip side...I know a lot of "educated idiots." Certainly, learning a trade, or a college education are important to financially succeed in this country, it just doesn't guarantee making a person "smart."
And what do liberals consider
Submitted by Slyrr on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 5:18pm.
And what do liberals consider 'diverse, white collar, and intelligent'?
'Diversity':
A black president who is dangerously inexperienced, incompetent and lawless.
An angry black woman establishing a 'Nutrition Gestapo' that terrorizes school children by ransacking their lunchboxes and throwing away their food.
A latino Supreme court justice who says she 'knows better than whites'.
'White Collar':
Putting tax cheats in charge of the treasury.
Putting gun-running racists in control of the Justice Department.
Putting know-nothing hacks in control of conquered companies, running them into the ground, then blaming the media.
Putting moon-pie lunatics in charge of their 'green jobs' fiefdom.
Putting Wong-Fong-Schlong in charge of the energy department and letting him say he's 'glad that gas prices are high'.
'Intelligence':
Saying that 0-1=2. (Nancy Pelosi and her blatherscite about how spending unemployment money increases revenue)
Obama saying that -3 Trillion MINUS 20 Trillion = out of debt.
57 states.
Navy 'Corpse-men'.
Telling police that they're 'stupid' then trying to smooth it over with booze.
Telling young women it's OK to screw around recklessly, then saying abortions are good for 'women's health'.
Eagerly making deals with known enemies and backstabbers, only to later feign astonishment when the backstabbers inevitably break the deal.
Saying Obama's election would 'end racism'.
Saying Obama's election would 'keep unemployment below 8%'.
Saying Obama's election would lower the levels of the sea.
Saying 'we have to pass our laws before we can find out what's in them'.
Trying to 'deem' their agenda into law.
Giving deadly weapons to Mexican drug lords, just to try and wreck the 2nd Amendment.
Cutting health aid to the Army.
Cutting funding for the army in the middle of global upheaval and chaos.
Cutting our nuclear arsenal in the middle of global upheaval and chaos.
Refusing to produce domestic energy in the middle of global upheaval and chaos.
Refusing to produce food in the middle of global upheaval and chaos.
I could go on and on and ON. If THIS is what the liberal left considers to be 'diversity, white collar and intelligent', then they can KEEP it. Looks like the white, blue collar dopes are the smart ones.
when their car breaks down do they call a PhD?
Submitted by MidAmerica on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 5:48pm.
The 'educated' seem to confuse the amount of years or dollars spent in an educational institution as proof of superior intelligence. However what a highly 'educated' person has attained is a lot of knowledge in a narrow subject area and outside of that subject area (because their education has been so focused) they are almost helpless.
And if my brain gets a tumour?
Submitted by mandrake on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 5:52pm.
Do I call my auto mechanic?
yes
Submitted by MidAmerica on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 6:13pm.
If he is also a trained brain surgeon.
Nice deflecting
Submitted by mandrake on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 6:35pm.
Truth is, I have the upmost respect for my auto mechanic. Been with him 25 years..only one I trust. I dread the day when he retires.
But my point was that everyone can have value to society. Even if they are 'over educated' and liberal.
Oh dear..now I've really stepped in it!
methinks
Submitted by MidAmerica on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 6:59pm.
you have missed my point. The 'educated' are those who have a certificate of Doctor of Thinkology like the Scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz. He was just as smart before he had a certificate but now he is recognized for his brain power.
Education and brainpower are not the same things. But we need both the educated and uneducated to make this world work.
Bad example, Mandrake
Submitted by CobraMan on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 10:51am.
If your car breaks down, does your mechanic need to consult three or four "specialists" in order to fix it? You know, like a doctor needs to, say, treat your brain tumor? Your highly educated doctor, after spending six years learning his trade in a university, and several more years as an intern in a hospital, along with several years experience in private practice, will inevitably feel the need to "consult" a neurologist, an oncologist, a surgeon, an anesthesiologist, five or more nurses, ect. So, just how "smart" is he, really?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
time for the media to be TESTED
Submitted by colt4548 on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 6:57pm.
This Man will take an exam. We will force him to. When he cannot do the Calculus that I can do. I get to take all of his money, his house, and all other assets. It is "Social Justice". Liberals have no right to an income, time to take it away from them.
Please don't confuse.......
Submitted by Herbster on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 11:30pm.
Please don't confuse Seig Heilemann with facts - his mind is made up. He is obviously more intelligent than anyone on the Republican planet...i mean, just look at the way he is dressed! What a twit.
Did anyone else knew "Heilemann" is the same as "scheisse"?
Submitted by drsamherman on Sat, 03/03/2012 - 11:33pm.
If you speak German, please accept my apology for using the term.
If you are John Heilemann, you know someone who stepped into a pile of you would rather throw away the shoes because they would never be able to wash off your stench.
Less well-educated?
Submitted by aposematic on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 8:52am.
Certainly less well-brainwashed!
Partly correct.
Submitted by wizardjr on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 8:59pm.
Everytime I have to listen to Debbie Doublewide, Madcow, or Randi Rodent, I can feel brain cells dying. I do believe the longer these folks are broadcasting to America the less brain power we'll collectively have.