Eleanor Clift Says Something So Dumb Mort Zuckerman Does Double Facepalm In Disbelief
How many times have you watched a political talk show and just couldn't imagine the nonsense coming out of some liberal pundit's mouth?
On PBS's McLaughlin Group Friday, Newsweek's Eleanor Clift said something so absolutely absurd about tax cuts that U.S. News and World Report's Mort Zuckerman did a double facepalm on camera in disbelief (video follows with transcript and commentary):
ELEANOR CLIFT: The capital gains has not always been at 15 percent. You know, when Reagan came to town, the marginal rates were very high, and he got money as a movie actor, so he wanted to bring those down which he did. When the Bushes came into office, they wanted to reduce capital gains because a lot of their money came from investment income. The 15 percent, [Camera pans to Zuckerman doing double facepalm], the 15 percent we arrived at when W. Bush was in office, and it has not always been that low.
Got that? Reagan and Bush only cut taxes to help themselves. It had nothing to do with stimulating the economy.
I agree with Mort.
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Zuckerman voted for Obama
Submitted by povertypimpin on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 6:10pm.
so that tells you how dumb Clift's statement was.
PBS
Submitted by P. Aaron on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 6:23pm.
Pretty Blatantly Stupid!
Yes, she is.
Submitted by G L on Mon, 01/30/2012 - 1:48am.
Yes, she is.
You Know What's Sad?
Submitted by Bourbeau on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 6:28pm.
The liberals have figured out, and this includes the President, that they can say anything they want in criticism of a Conservative point of view and they will never, ever be challenged by the main stream media. It's mind boggling how this has become the norm. If you don't think so, just think back to the stupidity that has oozed out of the likes of Matthews, Maddow, Maher, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, or lets not forget, our own Vice President. Are they ever embarasssed? Do they ever correct the record? Absolutely not, because they kniow the American people have the memory of an ant and anything they say, right or wrong, stands.
And don't forget Ears himself
Submitted by Mary Louise Turner on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 6:39pm.
It's not just that group of clowns, it's Ears himself, too. Remember "57 states" and Hawai'i being in Asia? Our alleged "leadership" and the toadies in the make believe media who worship them are flat-out embarrassments to our Nation.
Sub-Culture
Submitted by DemsRFascists on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 6:38pm.
Y'all can go crazy yellin' 'Godwin!' if'n ya want, but there is a significant portion of society -namely Democrats, and the Left Wing Media- which has developed a Nazi-like mentality.
These people believe that Democrats are a sort of Master (Political) Race of intellectually and otherwise superior beings, all of whose thoughts and policies are of the utmost racial purity. Correspondingly, they reflexively and instinctively believe conservatives are greedy subhuman racist degenerates, and will not consider otherwise.
It helps not at all that these same people are absolutely obsessed w race and matters of racial identity, nor that the Democrats could justly be called the Nat'l Socialist American Worker's Party.
Best wishes for an enjoyable day.
we aren' too far from
Submitted by TruthMonger on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 6:51pm.
we aren' too far from arm-bands and concentration camps for conservatives pretty soon
Congratulations Jimmy Carter!
Truth can you imagine that
Submitted by jkwtrading on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 8:16pm.
Truth
can you imagine that Hoe in one of the other articles coming down the street, with fifty or hundred friends looking like her..AND THEY are going to arrest you... I'd love to see the day the real libs try to fight.
Hey, my memory's not too bad.
Submitted by ant on Sun, 01/29/2012 - 12:22am.
Clift is right though..those damn conservatives come in with the intent of just making things workout for themselves. Like when that President had the State Dept. buy 20,000 copies of his book, and reward his pals through positions and policies and 'stimulus'..oh, never mind. Well, what we need is a communist-type like Elizabeth Warren...she's not rich, she's only worth 15 million..and she doesn't have an investment portfolio worth $8million and reap capital gains like those Repub...oh, nevermind.
Obama was questioned on it.
Submitted by pbthinker on Sun, 01/29/2012 - 1:10am.
In the debate with Hillary, Obama was asked by Charlie Gibson about the Capital Gains tax when Gibson said that, each time the capital gains rate is lowered, more money comes in, so why would Obama want to raise the capital gains tax. Obama said that it wasn't about money, it was about being fair. Now, has he changed on bit since that debate? How didn't our illustrious free press not follow up on that?
So, that's how you add to the debt because it's not about money, it's about being fair. So, there you go, 'splains it all.
PSSSSST!! No one watches
Submitted by Mrs. Vito on Sun, 01/29/2012 - 6:32pm.
PSSSSST!! No one watches Matthews, Maddow, or Maher!
clift is always good for a
Submitted by TruthMonger on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 6:30pm.
clift is always good for a laugh
Congratulations Jimmy Carter!
A legacy of ignorance
Submitted by Galvanic on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 6:44pm.
I've watched Clift on The McLaughlin Group for as long as I can remember, and I can't recall her ever uttering an insightful statement or explanation. She's has always been little more than a bundle of talking points. Her main function on TMG is to represent the emotional absurdity of the Left.
Galv...
Submitted by retrocon on Sun, 01/29/2012 - 10:21am.
i think the correct term is:
"Comedy Relief"
Shes as dumb as she is ugly!
Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 6:33pm.
I guess its not just pretty women that can be vapid and dense, right, Ellie?
Projection...
Submitted by sherlock1 on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 7:01pm.
Projection doesn't just happen in that little room at the back of the CinePlex, you know.
A double facepalm? That's nothing.
Submitted by jpwcpa on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 7:10pm.
I have a pet octopus. When Eleanor Clift made those remarks last night, it did an octuple facepalm.
Time to dust off Monica Crowley laughing in Clift's face
Submitted by OxyCon on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 7:51pm.
http://s699.photobucket.com/albums/vv353/OxyCon/?action=view¤t=cli...
Hang on a minute, here.
Submitted by HockeyKid on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 8:31pm.
Clift is stating outright that Reagan wanted CAPITAL GAINS taxes reduced because he was still receiving movie residuals?!! Residuals are, and always have been, normal taxable income, so even beyond the idiocy of suggesting that Reagan was trying to reduce his personal tax burden, Clift's assertion is boneheaded.
God save us from liberals who think they know something.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
I caught that too.
Submitted by Quasi-socialist on Mon, 01/30/2012 - 6:48pm.
It's a Clift. --Maybe Reagan was receiving residuals from Capital Pictures!!
Dumb is forever
Submitted by Herbster on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 8:58pm.
Question: How can you tell if Eleanor Clift says something stupid?
Answer: You can't. to know something she said is stupid, she, at some point in her life would have to say something smart.
She has to be on the show for laughs. She is a definite Pee Wee Hermanette.
Push that meme Ellie - even
Submitted by amyshulk on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 8:59pm.
Push that meme Ellie - even "moderate" Mort sees right through you!!!
Ronald Reagan
Zuckerman
Submitted by Redrowan2000 on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 9:01pm.
He may have voted for Obama the 1st time around , but recent comments made by him about this administration in terms of handling the economic depression and Obama's stand against Israel I think may have left the president short one more vote on this panel.
"Don't let the bastards grind you down."
You are correct, Redrowan...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 01/29/2012 - 12:20am.
with a minor qualification that Zuckerman has been sharply critical of much of the administration's economic policy for quite some time--at least for a couple of years now..
Jer
You are correct Jer
Submitted by Redrowan2000 on Sun, 01/29/2012 - 11:56am.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC1oRvzHdhQ
See above link.
I haven't been following Zuckerman for any extended period of time, but, over the past 6 months his total disappointment with this administration is obvious. I guess the love faded quickly after Obama as seen by this clip from January 2010. He not only points out his failure on the economy in general but housing, unemployment, health care and his cronyism, class warfare and the unprecedented spending of the taxpayers dollars.
"Don't let the bastards grind you down."
Liberal Stupidity Knows No Bounds
Submitted by RealVet on Wed, 02/15/2012 - 6:23pm.
Liberals are so patently stupid that they have no grasp of history or reality. That leaves them no other options other than revising history, lying and making idiotic statements & unsubstantiated claims. This blithering moron is a classic example.
Clift
Submitted by mmilesll on Sat, 01/28/2012 - 11:38pm.
She needs to have a two hour show on the Current TV network. She just knows so much you couldn't possibly do it in one hour.
Wait, what exactly is the
Submitted by megax5000 on Sun, 01/29/2012 - 7:56am.
Wait, what exactly is the reason for the double facepalm? She said that both Reagan and Bush Jr. lowered the capital gains tax rate. Okay? Isn't that true? So what exactly is the problem?
Mega
Submitted by Noel Sheppard on Sun, 01/29/2012 - 10:30am.
Mega,
With all potentially due respect, do you actually read articles before you comment on them or do you just reflexively post something negative because you're a liberal and this is a conservative website?
Clift said Reagan lowered marginal rates and Bush lowered capital gains rates. The entire transcript consists of only one paragraph with four sentences. How could you possibly have missed this unless you didn't read it?
Please try to read articles before you comment on them or you will be banned for being a troll. ns
hey noel
Submitted by gr29az on Sun, 01/29/2012 - 10:42am.
you shut him up
⇒ Hedging your risk, Noel?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 01/29/2012 - 11:10am.
"all potentially due respect"?
That's funny, I don't care who y'are.
It's a reaction to a display of ignorance
Submitted by CobraMan on Sun, 01/29/2012 - 2:10pm.
"Wait, what exactly is the reason for the double facepalm?"
Well it could be that it's not the President who sets those tax rates. It's CONGRESS who does that.
"She said that both Reagan and Bush Jr. lowered the capital gains tax rate. Okay? Isn't that true?"
Only if both Reagan and Bush Jr. somehow managed to defy Congress and set those rates themselves.
"So what exactly is the problem?"
The problem is that there's too many people, like yourself, who thinks that Presidents actually have control over things like tax rates, when, if fact, they don't. Presidents enforce the tax rates, they don't set them. They can suggest them. They can accept them. They can even reject them, with the power of the veto. But they can never, EVER change them. They can not raise them. They can not lower them. Only Congress can do that.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Ms. Clift
Submitted by oldfart on Sun, 01/29/2012 - 7:57am.
Ms Clift has always been a perfect example of:
It is better to keep you mouth shut and allow people to think you a fool than open it an confirm everyone's suspicions.
I honestly believe the producers keep her on the program for comic relief.
Eleanor Cliff is nothing but
Submitted by Semus on Sun, 01/29/2012 - 2:30pm.
Eleanor Cliff like all of President Obama's minions is a firewall under no circumstances will anything that helps the Republicans or the Conservative movement or conversely hurts the President or the Democrats pass her lips. It's fun to watch but fanatic dedication in any form is scary. Mort can laugh and mock her all day long, but what's his excuse for supported Obama in 2008? When an idiot with no money like myself knew what President Obama was all about, how come this billionaire genius didn't?
Everyone that once supported President Obama, explain why they don't anymore, LOUDLY. I think it would make a great ad, if they'd have courage to do it. The answer can't be just because he has no respect for the constitution or the law, which he doesn't.
Well, she's right about that.
Submitted by CobraMan on Sun, 01/29/2012 - 1:44pm.
"The 15 percent, the 15 percent we arrived at when W. Bush was in office, and it has not always been that low."
Well she's right about that. Sometimes it's even been lower. In 1957 the rate was at 13.7 percent!
By the way, Elenore, to what do you attribute Clinton's lowering of the rate from 25.1 percent in 1996 to 19 percent in 1998? That's a 6 percent drop in just 2 years! Was Clinton doing that merely to benefit himself financially?
Elenore; Presidents don't set the tax rates. Congress does.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Noel, once again thanks for
Submitted by megax5000 on Mon, 01/30/2012 - 1:32am.
Noel, once again thanks for responding, but you have an interesting definition of "troll". I didn't attack anyone in this page, neither you the columnist, nor any of the commentors here. It was an innocuous question that was just seeking clarification. Yes, it's a very short paragraph, but your point wasn't clear to me. This is what seems to have been your point:
"Got that? Reagan and Bush only cut taxes to help themselves. It had nothing to do with stimulating the economy."
So you're saying that the true goal was to help the economy? Okay fine. But there's no reason that they're proposals couldn't have helped both the economy and their own financials (they're not mutually exclusive).
And some posters here are saying that your/Mort's implication was that congress raises/cuts taxes not the president (which is true, but doesn't mean that a president can't spearhead an initiative.)
Anyway, if you want to ban me, go for it, dude. I thought you were a nice guy, but if asking a friggin innocuous question is that offensive to you, well then it's true I'll probably have difficulty making new friends here.
Making comments about killing/harming your democratic opponents however is A-okay apparently. Funny how that works out.
Asking an Innocuous question ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 01/30/2012 - 1:44am.
doesn't appear to be a part of the equation, but rather statements that in no way connect with the article being commented on.
MD
Sound like a typical strawman
Submitted by John21 on Mon, 01/30/2012 - 10:28am.
Sound like a typical strawman argument, it is possible there for it is true. Your logic and facts do not support the argument but you know that already which is the reason for the strawman.
Forgive the troll Mr. Sheppard.
Submitted by The Vet on Tue, 01/31/2012 - 10:11am.
It is not his fault he cannot see what was clear to you, the columnist, Mr. Zuckerman, and all of the commenters here. It is not his limited capacity to understand English, logic, common sense, or politics. It is your fault for not keeping the class late just to tutor him.
By the by, this is a troll that loves to correct the tiny fudges in posts of others. Seeing that ----
Truth doesn't matter anymore
Submitted by c5then on Mon, 01/30/2012 - 9:12am.
It's all about what you can get away with saying. The media have been perfecting this abomination for decades.
Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it!
Ms Clift has not lived in the
Submitted by John21 on Mon, 01/30/2012 - 10:27am.
Ms Clift has not lived in the real world for at least a decade. She is the leading confirmed propagandist for the far left and the Obama administration.
Her makes statements or claims that rarely have evidence, facts or common sense included. Can anyone remember the last time she said anything that was provable or was even close to logical? Does anyone believe that she has any credibility? Does anyone believe anything this woman says?
I think she comes up with the most assine statement he can find to remind people that she still exist and give her ego the false impression that she still is relevant to our society (clearly false).
Can anyone remember when this person was relevant to the political discussion or social interaction of our society? Eisenhower? Nixon?
She is just another one of the liberal firebombers that throw nonsense against the wall and hopes that the world is stupid enough to believe it.
Chevy Volt lie
Submitted by maryo on Mon, 01/30/2012 - 10:42am.
Another example of a blatant liberal lie: On The Chris Matthews Show on Sunday, Jan 29, U.S. Rep Steve Cohen mentioned the remarkable Obama turn-around of GM and stated that the Chevy Volt will be one of the biggest selling cars in the world this year. Where there should have been guffaws all around, there was no challenge whatsoever from the 'panel' or from the host.