Bashir Calls Tea Party Leader a Liar for Saying More People on Food Stamps Under Obama Than Bush
UPDATE AT END OF POST: Bashir responds via Twitter.
During a heated exchange with Tea Party Express founder Judson Phillips, MSNBC's Martin Bashir on Monday actually called his guest a liar for correctly saying there are more people on food stamps now than when George W. Bush was president.
This makes two MSNBC anchors in just three days that have made the same completely false claim on the air (video follows with transcribed highlights and commentary):
As the segment began Bashir asked his guest why Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich is doing so well.
"He has appealed to the conservative base of the Party," replied Phillips. "Everything he has thrown out, it's been absolute red meat to the base."
"I'm sorry," interrupted Bashir. "Just on that specific point, Judson, you say he's thrown out red meat to the base. Do you include in that those barely concealed, racially-charged, divisive comments about the President being a Food Stamps President?"
"There's nothing racial about that," answered Phillips. "He is a Food Stamp president. He's brought in more people on food stamps than any other American president in history."
"That's actually untrue," barked Bashir. "George W. Bush had more people on food stamps, not this president. That's a lie."
No, it's not.
As the Huffington Post reported November 3 :
USDA data released this week shows that the number of Americans receiving food aid from the Supplemental Nutrional Assistance Program (SNAP) hit another all-time high in August. 45.8 million people -- almost 15% of the country -- were enrolled in the program, which replaced Food Stamps in 2008. This is only a slight increase from July, when 45.3 million Americans were receiving SNAP help -- but a massive 31% jump since June 2009, when the National Bureau of Economic Research declared the most recent recession over.
Notice the phrase "all-time high?" Here's the chart the Post included in its piece:

Look like more people were on food stamps - now called Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program - under Bush than Obama?
More recent data from the USDA show 46.2 million on SNAP as of October 2011. This compares to 32 million in January 2009, a 44 percent increase since Obama was inaugurated.
The website DailyJobsUpdate.com offers an even longer view of this issue:

As such, Bashir was as wet as his colleague Al Sharpton who also claimed there were more people on food stamps under Bush than Obama on Saturday.
I guess this is why their colleague Chris Matthews recently called their network "M-BS-NBC."
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(H/T James Crugnale)
*****Update: Bashir responded via Twitter.
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As USA Today reported Wednesday:
Newt Gingrich claims that "more people have been put on food stamps by Barack Obama than any president in American history." He's wrong. More were added under Bush than under Obama, according to the most recent figures.
That's correct. Although we only have numbers through last October, food stamp recipients have grown by 14.2 million under Obama. During Bush's eight years, the increase was 14.7 million.
However, Bashir on Monday didn't talk about recipients added (with emphasis). "George W. Bush had more people on food stamps, not this president. That's a lie."
Thanks for the fact-check, Martin.
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Come on guys
Submitted by bobsmom on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 8:04pm.
Bashir IS right, there aren't more people on food stamps under Mr Obama...............they're on SNAP. You know how it is, gotta get the PC terminology correct, so that when the freaking fact checkers jump in they can honestly say that they are NOT on "Food Stamps" any more..........
It's like Obama's unauthorized war on Libya . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 10:05pm.
. . . We dropped bombs and fired missiles at the security forces of a sovereign government with whom we had no conflict, and our President insisted that it was not war -- it was a humanitarian mission.
Freinds ... "We were on a
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 1:14pm.
Freinds ... "We were on a break"
Let's call it what it is.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 8:13pm.
More people are "on the dole" now than ever in our history.
Martin is just another taqiyya sipping camel humper.
"Camel Humper"???
Submitted by mflo999 on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 9:49pm.
Nothing racist here folks ... move along now ... nothing to see here ....
How so?
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 9:57pm.
Please explain
(Scratching beard thoughtfully) Hmmmmmm
Submitted by mflo999 on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 10:01pm.
I wonder if it could be anything to do with the assumption that because Bashir is dark-skinned and has a foreign sounding name, he enjoys sex with camels? Just wondering ....
Is that worse than the
Submitted by ant on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 10:10pm.
Is that worse than the assumption that because somebody is white-skinned everything they say is code for 'I hates me some ni@@ers."?
That, mflo 999, would likely make it more of a ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 1:28am.
sexist remark than a racist one.
Then again, you might want to consider that Bashir is so damned ugly he has no outlet for sexual congress other than with a camel.
The only remaining question would be what type of camel, an Arabian dromedary or a Bactrian, i.e., one hump or two.
Furthermore, if you consider his skin to be dark colored, you are either sight impaired or racist yourself.
MD
Oh, it gets worse... much worse.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 9:26am.
Here he is commuting to 30 Rock the other morning with his date from the previous night.
Liberals think funny
Submitted by 10ksnooker on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 8:17pm.
And use liberal math ...
Reminds me of one of my dad's favorite sayings
Submitted by panzerakc on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 8:20pm.
My mind's made up, don't confuse me with the facts.
Gee, does Mr. Phillips have a
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 8:21pm.
Gee, does Mr. Phillips have a case to sue Bashir for slander? I think it is about time to get a lawsuit going so these libturds will be made to realize there are consequences for what they say.
Replacement program
Submitted by bmacdmac on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 8:32pm.
Nothing more than a replacement program that does even more (read to cost more) but Bashir doesn't get it. How long has he lived here?
scuba dude
Submitted by grammajane on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 8:49pm.
Wonder if Conservative Politicians refuse to sue this camel that, we, the American people could sue for all his lies he blabs on a daily basis? Does freedom of the press mean they can sit there and lie and get away with it? Just wondering.........Are there any "laws" pertaining to false press/media remarks
Called him a liar?
Submitted by Dave the mailman on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 8:27pm.
Sounds like slander; sue him and drag him thru the mud.
OT: If NewsBusters does not
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 8:39pm.
OT: If NewsBusters does not have a chat room for the debate tonite I will post a link to where we can gather and discuss the debate live.
NB ought to have a chat.
Submitted by acaiguana on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 8:47pm.
ACA
...
Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
I am ready to step up in case
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 8:55pm.
I am ready to step up in case they don't Aca. :-)
Scuba Dude
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 9:03pm.
Always ready to serve. Gotta love him. What time and what channel is the debate? I can't keep track of all these...
Supposedly 9:00pm on NBC. I
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 9:13pm.
Supposedly 9:00pm on NBC. I was checking the schedule on my TV and it was saying "Fear Factor" was on at 9 followed by Rock Center at 10.
Could NBC be deliberately not advertising the debate because they are afraid that Brian Williams will break down and cry when the candidates push back against his and the moderators assinine questions?
nbc?
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 9:41pm.
Im not sure if I can take it
Hey Bashir
Submitted by NVRAT on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 8:56pm.
You are a true Liberal Lemming. Deny the facts, even Obama can`t deny the truth (in this case).
Just like a LIberal - call it a lie. Even when it ain't true...
Submitted by acaiguana on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 8:58pm.
God, Liberals get me.
ACA
...
Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)
Well, isn't Bashir the haughty one.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 9:07pm.
He comes here on a green card, and the loathsome enterprise DBA as MSNBC gives him a bully pulpit from which to insult US citizens at will.
I despise moonbat libs, but I REALLY cannot tolerate foreign interlopers like this vile little piece of work.
What in God's name are the qualifications for...
Submitted by stage9 on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 9:20pm.
becoming an on-air "jihadist" at MSNBC? catching a nut down a chute?
"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner." — Malcolm Muggeridge
Good Ole Bashwad
Submitted by telecaster on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 9:25pm.
Never let statistical proof get in the way of your liberal Obama boot licking. Marty.....you're a sad toady and a joke......and you're ugly too.
Here's the information Bashir will be using ..
Submitted by Flashman on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 9:36pm.
.. and it's from FactCheck.org.
http://factcheck.org/2012/01/newts-faulty-food-stamp-claim/
As they say if you torture the numbers long enough they'll admit to anything.
Your link simply proves Bahir was right!
Submitted by mflo999 on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 9:48pm.
From FactCheck.org:
"Gingrich goes too far to say Obama has put more on the rolls than other presidents. We asked the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Food and Nutrition service for month-by-month figures going back to January 2001. And they show that under President George W. Bush the number of recipients rose by nearly 14.7 million. Nothing before comes close to that.
And under Obama, the increase so far has been 14.2 million. To be exact, the program has so far grown by 444,574 fewer recipients during Obama's time in office than during Bush's."
Talk about torturing the numbers! Sure, if you add the current situation to the disaster that was your last choice for President, you get a really large number.
Look, I know you guys hate Obama. Fair enough. Whatever rocks your boat. But I also know that deep in your hearts you know this attack is ridiculous.
And face it -- the last time you Republicans pushed a president on us, look what we got. Bush -- the name even you never date utter. No way will the country trust you again.
Really?
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 9:53pm.
you know this attack is ridiculous.
How so, 14.3 million in 3 years is ok? Also, notice how food stamps rose sharply after Pelousy and dingy Harry took over the congress, hmmm. What else happened around the same time?
Isn't it amazing Boudin?
Submitted by ant on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 10:17pm.
Isn't it amazing Boudin? After Pelosi had held the gavel for a time was when my financial/ job prospect troubles began....before that I was fine. And yet libtards refer to this time as "8 years of Bush". But, hey, what are facts when you're trying to trumpet a myth?
⇒ You're right mflo999
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 10:01pm.
It's likely LBJ (One of Obama's idols) was more successful at enticing people into the squalor of gumptionlessness.
Apparently you cannot read graphs worth a damn
Submitted by Dave. on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 10:30pm.
I guess they don't teach that in government school.
That, and a whole host of other things.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Deep in our hearts...
Submitted by ckc1227 on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 5:28am.
But I also know that deep in your hearts you know this attack is ridiculous.
...we know you're an idiot. You probably know it too.
One more thing Mt Sheppard:
Submitted by mflo999 on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 9:55pm.
You seem to assume that your readers are too crazed to even read your own article! Instead of quoting Philips directly, you quote Bashir's paraphrase.
But look: here's what Philips said -- according to your own article:
"He's brought in more people on food stamps than any other American president in history."
That direct quote is directly and accurately refuted by factcheck.org -- Bush BOUGHT IN more food stamp recipients. And you know it -- you quoted it!
Philips is in fact a liar, and a proven one too.
⇒ Bush "BOUGHT IN"
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 10:07pm.
How many did he "buy"?
Oooooh -- a typo!
Submitted by mflo999 on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 10:15pm.
You got me there, Mr Cool -- why, that typo just about undercuts my whole argument right?
Look, Philips claims "He's (Obama) brought in more people on food stamps than any other American president in history."
Mr Sheppard then proceeds to waste everyone's time claiming that Bashir was wrong to call Philips a liar.
Mr Sheppard was wrong. That's fine. Just admit it. I was wrong too once ... I think it was back in 1963!
⇒ Well, flo
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 10:18pm.
You did make a point about accurate and direct quotes. Normally, I'd bother to divine your gibberish.
Another source-
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 10:18pm.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/merrillmatthews/2012/01/19/obama-shunning-gr... The food stamp program, officially known as the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), has grown from 26.3 million people in 2007 to 44.7 million last year, an increase of nearly 70 percent. Something for Obama to be proud of, I wonder why he's not?
⇒ Oh, but he is proud of it
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 10:23pm.
It's just that Snap Daddy Obama doesn't want us to know how proud he is of increasing the dole roll.
He was wrong to call him a
Submitted by ant on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 10:23pm.
He was wrong to call him a liar. What ever happened to 'civil discourse'? Isn't Bashir afraid this type of language may get some Congresswoman shot?
Let's pretend for a moment you and Bashir's lie is true. Why would a heartless Republican like Bush allow that to be? Why would he 'bought' them in? I thought Republicans were bastards that hated the poor..that kinda would ruin that narrative if your food stamp claim were actually true. Anyway, you calling Bush a 'food stamp' President? You're a racist!
And Who Cares?
Submitted by IrateNate on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 10:43pm.
"That's actually untrue," barked Bashir. "George W. Bush had more people on food stamps, not this president. That's a lie."
The fact that Bashir re-phrased Phillips' claim from "brought in" to "had" still doesn't change the fact that today, right now, more Americans are receiving food stamps than ever before.
I know there are families who abuse the system, and have existed off of the government for generations. But I'm fairly certain that those who cannot feed their families and are forced to accept food stamps don't really care whether 500,000 more people were forced to accept food stamps during Bush's eight years than during the first three years of King Obama's reign.
For the record, 14.2 million in three years extrapolates into 38.7 million over 8 years. I'm afraid THAT, and not your typo, undercuts any 'argument' you may think you had.
Have they named a mountain
Submitted by Noel Sheppard on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 2:20pm.
Have they named a mountain after me?
Anyway, nice try. Keep defending this idiot. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/01/24/bashir-gingrich-li...
Noel, This turd is just
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 2:31pm.
Noel, This turd is just another sleeper account that got activated. A member for almost 2 years and it only started posting 2 weeks ago.
But we can have fun mocking his name:
mo
f
liberal
occupier
999 % (libs are none to good at math)
⇒ Snap Daddy Obama
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Mon, 01/23/2012 - 10:21pm.
Has a nice ring to it.
Sounds like a rapper.
Submitted by Radical1979 on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 12:01am.
.
Ahhh
Submitted by Jamson64 on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 12:06am.
Liberal troll
Look upwards at the chart with the blue bars. Blue is appropriate. Your twisting and turning is pathetic. Be proud- for your leader is the King of the Food Stamps.
this fact is owned by Obama
Submitted by Injest on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 12:37am.
Bashir Calls Tea Party Leader a Liar for Saying More People on Food Stamps Under Obama Than Bush
“More People on Food Stamps Under Obama”
Simple reading comprehension problem. Read the question answer the question do not read into the question. Obviously Bashir reading/comp level is well below 6th grade. He read into the statement, major bozo no no. Another truism goes you can't fix stupid and that's the problem with Bashir and others who have made the same mistake!
Bottom line the total number of people on food stamps or what ever its called today rose by 60% since Obama took office.
“total number of people” is not racist, it's a fact. Facts are not racist they can't be racist they can only be facts and this fact is owned by Obama
Think of the poor camel...
Submitted by tjc-illinois on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 8:29am.
The ASPCA and PETA should keep a close eye on him.
'Well, to tell the family secret, my grandmother was Dutch." Bart
Name one time,.
Submitted by Mark81150 on Tue, 01/24/2012 - 8:51am.
That sniveling litle shitzenweasal Bashir, ever called a democrat a liar on air.
Just one,.
But you can't, because he's too busy distorting the news to ever be even handed, or truthful. Factcheck another liberal spin machine, when you always lean towards clearing democrats, and tarring republicans it kind of gives away the game. Dems love to quote them, because like moveon.org, they play the propaganda game.
Liberals lie as a default setting, you can't ever trust anything they say.
It's all about power, and who they can crush. This "I'm sure Obama is a good man, he's just wrong". well I'm sure Himmler loved his cat,. it's how he treats Americans that counts. So far, he's great at paying off his cronies. the rest of us?
not so much.
There's a church fod bank across the street from my house,. there are people lining up down the block for help. don't tell me it's better under Obama, that is a lie.