Huffington Post Front Page Headline: 'Brady Slays Tebow'
The liberal, secular, Tim Tebow-hating media rejoiced Sunday after the New England Patriots soundly defeated the Denver Broncos.
A fine example of the merriment was displayed on the front page of the perilously liberal and secular Huffington Post with the headline "Brady Slays Tebow":
Inside the comments section, the joy was even more disgracefully displayed with numerous members saying "Brady Crucifies Tebow."
Don't you just love the new civil tone in America since Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) was shot?
Not that the folks at the Huffington Post - or their readers for that matter - care, but in reality, Denver slayed itself with back-to-back fumbles in the second quarter resulting in fourteen quick points for the Patriots.
But none of that matters when you're hunting Christians.
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They
Submitted by BBallleaper on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 9:30am.
at God, a fetus, the military, Conservatives, the bible, guns for self-defence, Christmas, prayer, private charity, marriage, abstaining from drugs, alcohol and premarital sex, patriotism....... so that hating Tim Tebow seems normal for liberals. It is societal entropy caused by liberalism, mental disorder which seeks to reduce us to the lowest common denominator of behavior and to denigrate all things good. Mr. Tebow had the right comments afterwards. He going to work hard and get better. The team will be motivate to achieve. What a sad commentary that 50% of people claiming to be Americans HATE America, its history, and its values.
Is this really how some
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 3:15pm.
Is this really how some conservatives think? Do you really sit around thinking about how liberals hate every single thing that you, as a non-liberal, consider awesome, and then conclude that 50% of Americans (not people CLAIMING to be Americans; actual Americans) "HATE America, its history, and its values"? How deeply, "deliciously" ironic, that in this silly little pastiche of the liberal who denigrates and discriminates, you yourself just toss out the broadest, unsubstantiated stereotypes possible, clearly gleaned from the bottom of the politico-cultural barrel. Liberalism is a mental disorder? Remind me which Ann Coulter column that little gem of originality and wit came from?
"Is this really how some conservatives think?"
Submitted by Newsbubba on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 5:03pm.
Well, Rup, old buddy, at least conservatives think. Best I can figure, liberals just "feel."
This "feeling" shiite is evidenced by the Huffy Puffy Post even commenting on a frapping football game. This has to be the first ever football game that liberals paid any attention to, and certainly the first one covered by Huffy Puffy. A team lost with a quarterback who is what his mom considers "a good boy," I'm sure. But since he's (gasp!) a Christian, liberals want his team to get their asses kicked, for some reason. That's some deep thinking going on there, Rup.
Too bad liberals don't have as much respect for a good man as, apparently, Tom Brady does.
Tebow lost, and unlike liberals, he can take it; he can take responsibility for it; he won't try to lay it off on Bush or the former quarterback; he sure as hell won't sell illegal guns to the Packers to attack the Patriots, and then lie about it; and he won't start bringing up stories about Brady's sex life to try and smear him.
He and Brady are both MEN, Rup. Liberals should embrace that concept every now and then, instead of actually embracing other, actual men, like Baaney Fwank does.
Well, I'm quite liberal and I
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 6:12pm.
Well, I'm quite liberal and I like football a lot. And I wanted the Broncos to get their asses kicked because they were playing the team I've been rooting for since I watched the Bears/Pats Super Bowl as a kid 25 years ago.
What's all this Real Men vs. Feelings nonsense? Where are you even getting this from? If you want to talk about how many of the HuffPo commenters were being out of line, no further argument necessary. I agree. The "crucify" word choice was crude and uncalled for. But freaking out over a website using a "violent" verb to signify that the Patriots won? Calling it part of a plan to hunt down Christians, or whatever bizarrely overblown thing Mr. Sheppard said? Ridiculous.
OK, Rupert, ...
Submitted by Newsbubba on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 6:55pm.
... I'm just glad that the Broncs weren't playing the Lions. Think of that headline.
Bubba*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 7:08pm.
*
Oh come one, the Broncos
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 8:48pm.
Oh come one, the Broncos would have beaten the Lions.
What is that the bigot Rupert Cadell is saying?
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 5:35pm.
Rupert Cadell: Who cares what they do or don't call themselves? They're 98.5% Beck-worshipping crybabies with apparent short-term memory impairment regarding recent history who think the election of a half-black man is the root of all our current ills, can't wrap their heads around the fact that most mainstream economists agree that the stimulus actually prevented a full-blown depression, and believe that "Drill Baby Drill" is a brilliant policy statement.
The bigot Rupert Cadell claims Tea Partiers are focused on the percentage of blackness in our current president. Even says the election of that half-black man is the root of our current ills.
Sorry, you were saying something about tossing out the broadest, unsubstantiated stereotypes possible, clearly gleaned from the bottom of the politico-cultural barrel?
Tell us who came with unsubstantiated stereotypes first, bigot.
I see ol' Rupe got both feet stuck in his ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 5:58pm.
mouth.
Again.
MD
Hello Vet. I stand by the
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 6:27pm.
Hello Vet.
I stand by the basic content of that 27 month old post, except for the "crybabies" epithet. While it may have been condescending in tone, it was not at all inaccurate as to what the Tea Party at that time was claiming.
And surely even a narrow-minded troll such as yourself can see that mocking a political movement for its misunderstanding of economic and energy policies, as well as its quite blatant scapegoating of the president, is not quite on the same level of ridiculousness as "50% of people claiming to be Americans HATE America, its history, and its values." Ri-damn-diculous. Embarrassing for your side, really.
Fortunately, there's no need to respond to MD, since he didn't really say anything, but rather apparently just sensed that his role model was moving in for a really sad attempt at breaking my stones and wanted to get in his highly devalued $.02.
Ohh, I get it. MD is your sockpuppet. It all makes sense now.
Wrong, Rupe, again,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 6:47pm.
as usual.
You are a lib, spouting lib BS.
QED
Nice turn of phrase; labeling The Vet a troll, and me a sock puppet.
Never saw that before.
Well, not a lot of times, anyway.
You are SO original.
MD
Shhhh. Don't disturb him MD.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 7:20pm.
He is praying ---
6. When your tactics are turned on you, call your opponents trolls. Do not accept the fact that by calling someone using your tactics a troll that makes you the real troll.
10. Refuse to admit your errors.
Never ever admit your errors no matter how blatant they are. If you find no way out and have to admit that you are wrong, phrase it so that you can accuse your opponent of being wrong.
Yeah, he thinks he is pulling something by referencing ridunculous/eugenedebs as though I am wrong. Yep, I am wrong. I clearly mislabeled them. They were brothers. And Mr. Half Black Bigot can prove it. He has the pictures. See, they are actually Siamese Twin brothers. They connected at the skull and share the same brain. I hurts now. Wait. I am getting verkelmpt. Oh dear, the tears, my keyb.....
Trolls are so mean.
You go Mr. Half Black Bigot. Pretend I said something else.
Submitted by The Vet on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 8:11pm.
Mr. Half Black Bigot that talked about a half black man. Mr. Half Black Bigot claimed the whitey white whites that is the Tea Party opposed said half black man. Mr. Half Black Bigot claims now that the half black part is nothing to be ashamed of. You go bigot.
Missed the entire point of my post Mr. Half Black Bigot. Shot right over your head. I never claimed BBallLeaper's post was not over the top. I said YOU ENGAGED IN IT FIRST and YOURS WAS MORE BIGOTED.
But that is pretty much every post you have ever put here. Act as though people stated something other than what is clearly written. Then, when it is spelled out for you in big block bold letters, act infringed upon as though you don't need to be spoken at as one would a very slow child.
Power on smartly Sophist Troll.
The Sophist Troll. Sophist Trolls, or "philotrolls," fancy themselves Enlightened Philosophers or Learned Experts of the highest order. Often well educated, Philotrolls are capable of speaking intelligently on a number of topics, and when the spirit moves them they can be worthwhile forum participants. Unfortunately, Sophist Trolls are an extremely hostile and intolerant species.
When confronted by opinions with which they do not agree -- particularly when they do not see any means of successfully arguing their contrary views -- Sophists resort (repeatedly) to a variety of intellectually dishonest tactics. Most often, this is characterized by an overly snide, condescending, patronizing attitude. Philotrolls consider anyone with whom they do not agree to be "immature," and are fond of quoting that old saw that "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing."
When cornered they are quick to resort to personal attacks. A philotroll's bag of rhetorical tricks includes a variety of transparent ploys, such as willfully misinterpreting the opponent's words, committing Straw Man fallacies, accusing his or her opponents of engaging in the very tactics used by the philotroll, and so forth.
Tough work knocking over that straw man, wudn't it? Huh, Mr. Half Black Bigot. That I even came close to speaking as to levels between your nasty bigoted statement when you try to whine about others painting with a broad brush.
Huff-Po & much of the left...
Submitted by P. Aaron on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 9:32am.
...aren't looking at Tebow's success in terms of an NFL team rebuilding itself that's winning games they weren't expected to win. The left has simply embraced a narrative of anti-religion and faith's eventual failure. Not realizing that humans fail constantly.
The left's own track record of policy disasters should humble them but, since they think they're God, humility is scarce.
And they missed the most important thing
Submitted by c5then on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 9:37am.
That Tebow reacted almost exactly the same having lost on Sunday as he did when he won.
Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it!
Exactly, c5....
Submitted by motherbelt on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 9:54am.
Tebow gives glory to God, and puts responsibility where it belongs.
He did NOT say "I guess God didn't want me to win this one."
Tebow has a more realistic perspective on NFL . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 3:50pm.
. . . football than does either the MSM or the other players.
"It's just a game."
Tebow knows that his team lost to a better team, and the sun still rose in the east on Monday morning.
Unlike many of the men (and I apply that term loosely for some NFLers) he plays the game with, it would appear that whenever Tebow's career ends, he will be happy for having had the chance to compete, and he will go onto the things he holds more important in his life.
And who could hate the guy for that?
"God Likes Brady Too"
Submitted by motherbelt on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 9:51am.
The hypocrisy regarding the "civility" is jaw-dropping, but The Drudge Report last night had "God Likes Brady Too" which I found even more offensive.
Tim Tebow has never claimed that God decides who wins football games.
But unless the left-wing media play it that way, they can't ridicule him.
Motherbelt, I agree with you
Submitted by Liberallies on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 12:26pm.
Motherbelt,
I agree with you 100%. I also found very offensive Drudgereport's headline. Tebow has never once claimed that God favors him over anyone else.
The media is doing everything within their power to tare this guy apart. But something tells me that the media actions, the Left wing attacks, the Atheist's attacks do not face Tebow. I have zero doubt that he prays for all of his enemies and wishes nothing, but good things for them, as should we all.
This is what drives his attackers crazy. I think I heard it on Rush Limbaugh, that the media's problem and that of most Tebow's attackers is that Tebow's behavior forces them to face straight on bad they behave. His behavior makes them feel less, while the behavior of most over paid, spoiled brat professional sports players makes them feel superior and better.
Side note, anyone notice how it is ok for Liberal media talking heads, "reporters" on NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, Foxnews, etc to make millions, how it is ok for professional NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL coaches and owners to make millions, how it is ok for the Hollywood television and movie "stars" to make millions upon millions, but those EEEEEVVVVVIIIILLLLL CEOs and corporations can't? Just a thought ....
seculars continue to
Submitted by TruthMonger on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 12:42pm.
seculars continue to mis-understand Christianity as it is not understood unless one has the gift of faith
then their media becomes the blind leading the blind and its a sad downward spiral from there, very sad
should we pity them?
Congratulations Jimmy Carter!
Patriots slay Democrats
Submitted by SnapTie on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 10:09am.
Can't wait till next November when the headline reads; "Obama and the Democrats fall to Patriots"
Like
Submitted by GW on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 11:42am.
I gotta say that I'm liking Tebow the mroe I read about him.
Tebow
Submitted by Jersey Girl on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 12:02pm.
As I have posted before.........Tebow's religion is anathema to the left but these same people had no problem at all with Rev. Wright being Obama's pastor, like a father, for twenty years.
I went surfing yesterday
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 1:48pm.
I went surfing yesterday morning, and then came back to watch the second half of this game with my son, who is visiting me for a couple weeks - and he's a big Patriot fan, but also likes Tebows grit and work ethic. And he's also a big ZZ TOPP fan - so by about halfway through the fourth quarter, I had to tell him the 'Jesus Just Left Denver'....................
How on earth is the HuffPo
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 2:51pm.
How on earth is the HuffPo headline disgraceful? Sportswriters have been using a wide variety of synonyms for "defeat" and "beat" for decades; often they take on an aggressive tone. Crush, wallop, batter, whip, etc. To suggest that the choice of "slay" was somehow inappropriate because of Tebow's religious convictions is about the sloppiest argument I can imagine. To suggest that it contradicts the left's calls for civility following Giffords' shooting is even more ludicrous, especially since the NB author in question used the verb "demolish" in almost precisely the same context (i.e. proclaiming that one person soundly defeated another in some sort of contest) in an article about George Will just yesterday. Is figuratively "demolishing" another person so much less inappropriate than figuratively "slaying" another team?
I am a committed atheist, and I still find it heartening and refreshing to see Tebow's humble displays of faith on the field. And he has been tremendously interesting to watch this season. But (and as a Patriots fan, I realize I'm biased) last night's game was a much-needed wake-up call for those perpetuating the Tebow hype. He is not yet anywhere near being a world-class player on the level of Brady, Rodgers, or even that slimebag Roethlisberger. I'm sorry, but while there are some who clearly hate Tebow for the mere fact of his unapologetic faith, most of the criticism begs the chicken-egg question. I don't think that intense anti-Tebow sentiment arose until after the intense "Tebow is the most amazing QB EVER!!!" hype was well underway.
It's pretty simple,
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 3:19pm.
It's pretty simple, Rooooooooop - Brady never got near Tebow, unless they shook hands at the end of the game.
Are you truly going to
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 6:03pm.
Are you truly going to suggest, with a straight face, that this is the first time that a hotly-anticipated contest between two top teams has been metonymically promoted as being a face-off between two team leaders, i.e. quarterbacks?
No, of course, quarterbacks tend not to "get near each other," but given that QB is THE marquee position, and that the offense's success is always chalked up, in the end, to the QB's performance, to say Brady outplayed Tebow is not exactly beyond the pale.
I didn't 'suggest'
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 7:15pm.
I didn't 'suggest' anything...........I'm not that 'nuanced'. You were complaining about the headline - as it was written - and all I said was that the two quarterbacks weren't playing against each other. I thought the headline was stupid too...............if they wanted to make a comparison between the two, it could have read 'Brady outplays Tebow', or something like that. If they wanted to use the term that they chose correctly, they could have written that 'Brady and the Patriots slay Tebow and the Broncos'.
Aside from that, I don't have the slightest idea whay 'metonymically' means, nor do I ever WANT to know what it means - I'm just a blue-collar dummy over here - if I used a word like that, one of my friends would probably slap me.
First off, I did not take
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 9:04pm.
First off, I did not take issue with the headline. Noel Sheppard took issue with it in his article. I merely stated that I thought it was silly to react so vehemently to the use of the verb "slay" as a stand-in for "defeat."
it could have read 'Brady outplays Tebow', or something like that. If they wanted to use the term that they chose correctly, they could have written that 'Brady and the Patriots slay Tebow and the Broncos'
Um, okay, that's certainly true. But sportswriters write things like this all the time. Is anyone taking issue with this for ANY reason other than the fact that some fans apparently think Tebow needs to be defended against any perceived insensitivity in the press? If it said "Smith slays Roethlisberger" (fingers crossed) tomorrow morning, would anyone even bat an eye?
I submit no, no they would not.
By the way, that's all metonymy is. Having some aspect (the QB) of a larger whole (the team) stand in rehtorically for that whole.
I think I'm too much of a
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 2:56am.
I think I'm too much of a simpleton to really get the 'gist' of all of this - including your comments. Plus, in my own opinion the sports press is about as screwed up as the Main-Stream-Press..........so I don't pay too much attention to them either. And it IS just sports we're talking about here, right??? So who really gives a rats rear end?? Take it or leave it..............it only matters as much as you want it to matter.
I don't want to know anything about 'metonymy'............but I do know how to spell 'rhetorically'.........................but your whole last sentence is WAAAAAAAAAAY to 'nuanced' for me, Roooooooooop.
Rupert
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 7:11pm.
I'm not quite sure of the meaning of your "chicken-egg" comment. I think the mistake of many secular, non-religious people, is thinking that Tebow's faith makes Tebow feel as if he can never fail. If Tebow is a true Christian, he realizes that he has been given a gift, and thanks God for his gift. Tebow knows that he is not infallible, and that he will fail, lose football games, and sin. Tebow is actually being humble when giving thanks. I think secularists fail to understand this, they feel he is being prideful and resent it and feel the need to bring him down a peg or two.
They couldn't be more wrong.
hi Radical,First off, I did
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 8:59pm.
hi Radical,
My chicken-egg question was simply in reference to whether the pro-Tebow hype or the anti-Tebow backlash came first. Of course, my choice of words here, referring to anti-Tebow sentiment as "backlash" makes pretty clear what I more or less think on the matter.
Finally, I agree with you completely. I don't think Tebow is being prideful or anything else negative when he does his thing on the field. As I said elsewhere, I actually find it rather moving and inspirational, even though I don't share the specifics of his faith. After Tom Brady, Alex Smith, and Drew Brees, I'd say I root for Tebow more than any other QB just because he does indeed seem like a good, decent guy who will likely develop into an all-time great.
However, I also resent it when any negative word spoken against Tebow is contrued as anti-Christian rhetoric. Frankly, when sports fans say things like "Tebow ran out of miracles," while it's obviously a jab at his Christianity, I think it's just sports fans having their uncouth fun, not a deep-seated expression of their perception that he's a hypocrite or something.
Rupert
Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 9:44pm.
Gotcha.
I find people making fun of Tebow and his religion as offensive as the Michael Vick dog jokes. They are wildly different issues, but each one is serious, and really not appropriate for joking.
However, I, like Cajun, am a resident prude.
I didnt realize Huffington puffington covered sports?
Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 3:58pm.
I wonder why-HMMM? Why didnt they lead with the MAIN headline yesterday-My EAGLES slayed Jets-yeah, baby! Who let the dogs out-Michael Vick did!
Huffpo is huffing again*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 6:35pm.
If Tebow being a Christian flaunting his beliefs, deserves attack, have I got another patsy for Huffpo.
The 99% OWS should really start taking shots( pun only) at Albert Pujols. He is openly religious, often points to God while standing on 3rd base after a triple with 3 RBI's. He should really be a target now that he has signed a $280 million new contract just to play baseball. He is also a man that walks the walk. He and his wife have a foundation of charity to give away millions of his own money. But no one goes after Pujols. Wonder why? /sarc
Ahhh, Ms. Caj - is it because
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 7:20pm.
Ahhh, Ms. Caj - is it because he's a 'latino'??? But there's a lot of 'blacks' in sports who are part of the 1% - and I hate using that phrase, because it's really stooooooopid. Let's just say that the OWS bowel movement picks their 'enemies' - and quite often it has nothing to do with their income level.
And if one of these super-star ath-a-letes (sportscaster pronunciation) was an openly practicing moooooooooooooooslem, you can bet your last hard-earned dollar that he'd (I'd say 'she', except the mooooooooooooooslems wouldn't allow a woman to become a sports superstar - plus, it's hard to perform at peak level with all of those robes and burkahs and stuff) be getting props big-time from the media!!!
But............a white-boy Christian??? Fuggitaboutit!!!
True killa*
Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 8:06pm.
Agree and its Ms Rad that has nailed it again. My intention was not to target Pujols but rather point out that there are many athletes that are Christians. They recognize that they have been given a gift. They are also the most giving and generous with their money they obtained from that gift. And you may be right that the media choose not to go after blacks and latinos. That would make the critics obvious bigots right?..;-)
Here's another Tebow article appearing at Huffpo that
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 1:53am.
most should find positive and complimentary toward Tim. Sure, there are the usual number of snarky quips in the comment section, but there are many--the more thoughtful ones, in fact--which are very sympathetic.
Jer
Because Pujols is the greatest hitter in the history of baseball
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 1:57am.
the consummate professional, and a saint as well. And I have been absolutely distraught ever since he left my beloved birds.
Jer
I don't want to jinx the guy ...
Submitted by Tom Blumer on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 2:23am.
... but he's only 31, and 8 years of 40 HRs away from catching Barry Bonds.
I am definitely rooting for him to do that.
Agree Tom*
Submitted by cajun2 on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 2:51am.
Pujols is a much better role model than Bonds. Wish him well and 40+...;-)
More Pujols info...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 2:58am.
What Bonds did late in his career in that ballpark was truly amazing. But those achievements will always be tainted with the whiff of scandal. On the other hand, there has never been even the slightest hint that Albert's unprecedented accomplishments thus far were aided by banned substances.
Anyway, from wiki:
In 2007 Pujols became a U.S. citizen,[93] scoring a perfect 100 on his citizenship test.[94] Later that year Upper Deck Authenticated announced it had signed Pujols to an exclusive autographed memorabilia agreement.
In 2008, Pujols agreed to help bring a MLS franchise to St. Louis by using his reputation and a large financial investment.[95]
Pujols and his wife are devout and active Christians;[96] one of his writings on his family's foundation's website states, "In the Pujols family, God is first. Everything else is a distant second".[97] He writes,
"My life's goal is to bring glory to Jesus. My life is not mostly dedicated to the Lord, it is 100% committed to Jesus Christ and His will. God has given me the ability to succeed in the game of baseball. But baseball is not the end; baseball is the means by which my wife, Dee Dee, and I glorify God. Baseball is simply my platform to elevate Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior."[98]
Pujols attends a Baptist church.[99]
Pujols and Cardinals manager Tony LaRussa attended Glenn Beck's Restoring Honor rally in Washington, D.C., after being assured by Beck that the rally was not political.[100][101] During the rally, Pujols was presented with a "Badge of Merit" for "Hope."[102]
Pujols Family Foundation
In 2005, Albert and Deidre Pujols launched the Pujols Family Foundation, a 501(c)(3) non-profit which is dedicated to their "commitment to faith, family and others."[103] The organization promotes awareness of Down syndrome and works to support those who have it and their families, aids the poor in the Dominican Republic, and supports people with disabilities and/or life threatening illnesses.[103] Among other activities, the foundation hosts events for people with Down syndrome.[90] The foundation gave the Down Syndrome Association of Greater St. Louis the resources to open and office and hire staff.[90] A center for adults with Down syndrome bears Pujols' name ("Albert Pujols Wellness Center for Adults with Down Syndrome") opened in 2009 in Chesterfield, Missouri;[104] he was present at the opening on November 18.[105][106]
[When Albert met his wife-to-be, she already had a child with Down Syndrome and feared Albert might be reluctant to take on the profound challenges of a child with the condition. He turned the obstacles into opportunities and his dedication to his adopted child and his commitment to bettering the lives of others similarly afflicted has been nothing short of magnificent.]
You just can't help but admire this man.
Jer
Although I don't have a lot
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 3:01am.
Although I don't have a lot of respect for Bonds - aside from his baseball abilities - I really can't figure out why the government has spent so much time, energy, and money going after him for something that was pretty obvious..............if anybody should have gone after him, it should have been MLB.
Lying to Congress??? Lying to the government?? Jeeeeeeeez!!! Who are these idiots trying to kid??? Last I checked - Congress, the government, the President, the MSM, and just about anybody else you can name LIES to us on a non-stop and daily basis!!! It's astonishing to me that these psuedo-posers in Congress would be offended that somebody would actually NOT give them the straight scoop!!! Tell me the last time they EVER gave us the real story!!!
killa...I have mixed feelings.
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 3:19am.
There's no way that gaining an unfair athletic advantage can be justified. It was an affront to all of those who played by the rules, and the practice of it from top to bottom-- the deception, the subterfuge, the clandestine injections--simply stunk.
But, I do tend to agree with you in part. The Congress and the Feds came across as a bunch of obsessed, selective zealots--devoting enormous time and resources in a relentless pursuit of their prey.
Jer
Well, you've got Mark
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 3:48am.
Well, you've got Mark McGuire, Jose Canseco, Roger Clemons, and a whole lotta other guys who were juicing it up - and getting the results that they wanted - and they ALL knew what they were doing. LIke I said - this should've been an issue with MLB - what the hell does Congress have to do with it?? And in the NFL - I'm sure that this type of activity has been going on for a LONG time!!!
It was pretty obvious that Barry Bonds was on something - all you had to do is look at the guy!!! And apparantly, he was a real a**hole, since I haven't read too many positive reports about him from his teammates - other than when he'd win a game.
And I am totally amazed at the Congressional 'hearings', 'investigations', and 'blue ribbon panels' that they enact to try and come up with some result about something that is NONE of their damn business. Hell, if I were a ballplayer and I got called into Congress - I'd go out of my way to ridicule those posers!!! It's astonishing to me to see the low level of competance, intelligence, and common sense displayed by the majority of members in our Congress.............and I'm not even getting into what I think about our current President!!! These dopes DO have 'work' to do, and it DOESN'T include whatever is going on in the sports world!!!
I wonder what they'd be doing these days about Babe Ruths nighttime activities, his drinking, his eating, his womanizing, and everything else that he did??? Maybe they'd launch an investigation into him!!! It would make more headlines than actually trying to fix some major-league problem that THEY created, huh???
I've considered the Babe Ruth angle before...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 4:17am.
but it was a different era, and a far different dynamic between the sports writers and ballplayers--the former being enablers, cheerleaders, and protectors for the latter. The really serious stuff was generally hidden from the public, and the antics and hijinks were tolerated and even applauded.
As far as blaming MLB, the owners, and the Commissioner--I don't. I blame Donald Fehr and the players union. Selig pleaded with Fehr and the union to include serious and meaningful drug testing and sanctions for violations in the collective bargaining agreement. Fehr and the union absolutely refused. In the meantime the sport during the shutdown was hemorrhaging money, losing its fan base, and good will was evaporating in catastrophic proportions. One of the Yankee player reps was asked if he was going to walk a picket line during the strike, and he responded "are you kidding...I'll be at the Country Club playing golf.
Facing total union intransigence, Selig finally took the best deal he could get just to get the game going again--before the harm to the sport was irreparable--and consequently the drug/steroid testing policy remained weak and ineffectual while the players celebrated their "victory" with champagne.
Jer
Ya just made a pretty good
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 4:29am.
Ya just made a pretty good case - for or against - unions, Jer!!! And it permeates beyond the sports unions too. Seriously - what is the prime motive of a union??? To take money from the employer AND employee, in order to justify their position??? Kind of a simplistic definition - but you can't refute it either.
"Who let the dogs out-Michael
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 9:09pm.
"Who let the dogs out-Michael Vick did!"
Hey thanks for the reminder to write my monthly check to the ASPCA while watching Vick's concussion hit on youtube on repeat.
Ahhh, watching Roethlisberger
Submitted by Rupert Cadell on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 11:06pm.
Ahhh, watching Roethlisberger lose. That's good stuff.
Nap,
Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 12/19/2011 - 11:36pm.
Us Saints fans have put the gris gris on dem 49rs
I've been a niner fan from
Submitted by killa37 on Tue, 12/20/2011 - 3:06am.
I've been a niner fan from waaaaaaaay back in the days when I lived in a remote valley over here, and could only get one or two radio stations - which were replays of west coast football and baseball - so I had to become a niner and Giant fan. And this was right before, and during, the time when Montana came off the bench and became a starter. So, obviously, I haven't had much to cheer about for the past few years................so this is a good thing going on right now. Of course, I like the Saints - I think Breese is in the top 3 QB's of the NFL - so we'll just have to see how that goes.
My other team - the Packers..............well, I don't know what the hell they were thinking yesterday!!!