Fareed Zakaria: Iraq Withdrawal Is Victory For Iran
As the media did a victory lap over Friday's announcement by President Obama that all American troops would be removed from Iraq by the end of the year, Fareed Zakaria took a surprisingly contrary position.
Speaking from Tehran with a variety of CNN hosts throughout the day, Zakaria said this development was a disappointment for the United States and a victory for Iran (video follows with transcript and commentary):
JOHN KING, HOST: A simple question up front. U.S. troops leaving Iraq by the end of the year, Iran has to view this as a victory.
FAREED ZAKARIA: Oh, I'm sure it views it as a victory. Iran views what had happened in Iraq entirely from a kind of geopolitical prism. That is the U.S. and Iran are competing for influence in Iraq. They have viewed it that way from the start of the fall of the regime and they have their agents in there and Iran has long ties to many of threat groups that are now dominant in Iraq.
Prime Minister Maliki and his party were in exile in Iran for 10 years. Many of the Kurdish leaders, including the current president of Iraq, was in Iran. Many of them speak fluent Persian. They have long and ongoing ties. Muqtada al-Sadr, when he finds that things get difficult for him in Iraq he head backs to Iran. So all of these political officials have been nourished sustained by Iran. And as American troops draw down, Iran's influence can only increase.
KING: And this sounds incredibly crass, but is this a fair bottom line? That after almost nine years, billions of dollars in U.S. money and nearly 4,500 lives lost of brave U.S. service men and women, that Iran wins?
ZAKARIA: One of the things I have always - looked on the idea of dealing with Saddam Hussein favorably is that whatever benefits we have gotten out of the operation in Iraq, the costs have been staggering, as you described.
And those costs really seem to far outweigh benefits right now.
KING: At the White House today the deputy national security adviser, Denis McDonough, said they're not that worried about Iran's influence. He says Iran is further isolated, has been weakened in recent years.
ZAKARIA: Denis McDonough pointed out that Iran's been having a bad few months and I think that's entirely true.
The Iranians have had trouble internally, they have had trouble abroad. The whole image of Iran in the wake of the Arab spring has been tarnished. And now these new allegations about the Saudi assassination plot. Iran's not in great shape. But on this specific issue I'm not sure I would agree. I think that Iran has maintained contacts with Iraq very successfully and very aggressively. Look, this is why the Americans couldn't get a deal done.
Later on Friday, Zakaria elaborated on this with Wolf Blitzer on "The Situation Room":
ZAKARIA: It is important to point out this is the disappointment for the United States. The United States was in active negotiations with the Iraqi government to try to retain a residual force. The Central Command of the United States wanted a force much larger than 2,000 or 3,000. The debate that was taking place in the American Administration was whether to have 15,000 troops. Clearly, what happened was on the Iraqi side, they were simply not able to muster the political coalition to make the deal work. And that tells you that there were strong enough forces on - let us for simplicity sake call it the "pro-Iranian side" of the Iraqi political spectrum, the Muqtada al Sadr's of the world and others - that made it very difficult for this to move forward.
So here we are in a situation where we will lose, without any question, day-to-day influence in Iraq and the Iranians will gain it. I think that it does fulfill a promise that President Obama had made, but there was a very easy path to maintain some kind of force level if this status of forces agreement had been negotiated. Clearly what happened was the Iraqis were unwilling to make that deal happen and so the president decided in that context he was going to make clear that there was no circumstance in which American troops were going to stay in Iraq without the legal status of forces agreement that we have with any country in which we have troops stationed.
As such, no matter how the bulk of our media applauded Friday's announcement, it is indeed a disappointment for the United States and a clear victory for Iran.
Not what you'd expect to hear from a man who admitted in May he advises the president on foreign policy.
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As the reality sets in that this was W's decision
Submitted by Ashrak on Sat, 10/22/2011 - 3:36pm.
and that Barry didn't do anything but leave in place what was agreed to before he occupied the Oval Office, many are now realizing that just pulling up and leaving altogether is indeed a good thing for Iran.
Make no mistake here, this is not a means to hammer Barry, this is a means to blame what happens next year, and afterward, on Bush.
Bet. On. It.
Since this Indian Faheeeed is
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 10/22/2011 - 3:44pm.
Since this Indian Faheeeed is one of Boy Barry's foreign policy advisors - then maybe he had something to say about this decision??? And as Ashtrak says - it WILL be used in the re-election campaign, and anything that goes wrong over there can be attributed to Bush.
Why are you surprised?
Submitted by OxyCon on Sat, 10/22/2011 - 4:24pm.
This is just Zakaria being his "Post American" self. He relishes every defeat for America because his vision and desire is that of a "post American" world.
Zarcaria Has to Defend His Credibility He Sees Obama As Gone
Submitted by Avitar on Sun, 10/23/2011 - 5:13am.
This is going to end in disaster and there is no other outcome possible with the Iranian forces in the Iraq Government.
Barack Obama is not going to be around in fifteen months and there are likely to be few journalist jobs in Saudi Arabia or where ever he flees to escape extradition once the investigations get started.
Zarcaria has probably note that while the Democrats have been successful electing the last few Governors of Illinois elected they are all serving time in prison.
Obama, dude Zarcaria just kicked you under the bus.
First time Id agree with this nutcase,,
Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Sat, 10/22/2011 - 4:54pm.
But hes right-if we pull out of Iraq, and so extensively-Iran will step in the very next day!
Fareed Zakaria in his own way is cheering.
Submitted by needle on Sat, 10/22/2011 - 5:16pm.
"Fareed Zakaria: Iraq Withdrawal Is Victory For Iran"
That’s right, but it is also a victory for Fareed Zakaria and other Muslim enablers, and anti-America tyranny-loving “Liberals” in general.
Watch the [traitorous] “Liberals” disclaims any responsibility for any of the calamities that occur as Iraq is assailed by Islamic terrorism and slumps back to Satanic Islamic barbarism. May they all go to Hell.
- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.
Watch the [traitorous]
Submitted by Paarl on Sun, 10/23/2011 - 11:16am.
Watch the [traitorous] “Liberals” disclaims any responsibility for any of the calamities that occur as Iraq is assailed by Islamic terrorism and slumps back to Satanic Islamic barbarism
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a bit of a parallel to 1975 Vietnam when the US Congress ..democrat controlled...ended all aid to the 100% all South Vietnamese military and the North rolled into Saigon....and just 2 ears earlier the 90%
South Vietnamese forces had routed the north in their first overt invasion attempt...
who me ?? cried the Dumbocrats when the camps began and the Khmer Rouge took Cambodia...
Paarl of Rhodesia
Spot On, Paarl
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 10/23/2011 - 11:24am.
With one little addition.....they're going to BLAME BUSH! Because it was "his" Status of Forces agreement....but the Obama Administration (and Hillary's State Department) FAILED at the negotiations regarding troop levels and ROE.....so they folded our tent and have gone home.
I also find it extremely troubling that to date, nothing has been done about the Assassination Attempt. We should have sent a stealth bomber to deliver a little message to the Kuts, their "elite" forces, as well as the Command & Control structure of their Revolutionary Guards. That might give them pause the next time they consider messing with us. But of course, Obama has no stones.
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Well, Blonde, I think that
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 10/23/2011 - 2:32pm.
Well, Blonde, I think that actually depends on the veracity and truthfullness of the assassination attempt, since it 'just happened' to hit the news right as Eric Holder was going to be subpoenad about the Fast and Furious mess...............which he AND Boy Bllunder have both admitted to learning about it by 'reading it in the paper'!!!
But you're right - Obama has no stones, and that is why he crosses his legs and sits more feminine than you do!!!
Administration's failure
Submitted by Model850 on Sun, 10/23/2011 - 5:59pm.
but the Obama Administration (and Hillary's State Department) FAILED
Exactly. But I heard a report during Saturday's Weekend Edition on NPR that discussed the failure to negotiate an extension for US troops in Iraq, and not so curiously the reporter framed it as "a failure of the United States" rather than a failure of the Obama administration.
Of course we all know how the report would have been worded were there a Republican in office.
Joe Wilson was right..
Submitted by greggy on Sat, 10/22/2011 - 5:29pm.
Obama lies. Of course, almost all politicians do.
But Obama's disengenuousness is breathtaking, it is the Mother Of All Spin, and the worst kind of deliberate deception to portray America's departure as a victory, and as just "the fulfillment of a campaign promise".
It is especially brazen in light of the fact that the truth is so widely known - namely that this is a terrible setback, that this is not the outcome America wanted, that the Iranians outgamed the administration there, and that this not an acceptable outcome given that 4500 Americans died to free this nation from under Saddam Hussein's regime.
Obama sees this as an
Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Sat, 10/22/2011 - 6:55pm.
Obama sees this as an opportunity to grovel to Iran under the pretense of being a great stateman. Obama is happy Iraq loses and Iran wins.
Before we leave
Submitted by Mutantone on Sun, 10/23/2011 - 12:36am.
Destroy all the bases and structures that Iran might use to mount an attack at a latter date then come home with our heads held high, but leave nothing behind that we put in or fixed .
The withdrawal
Submitted by coin of the realm on Sun, 10/23/2011 - 1:27am.
plan was in place before Obama came to office and he tried to keep our presence in Iraq, but the Iraqis said no way. It has been clear for years that Iran would end up being the biggest winner in this idiotic war and it should come as no surprise that they are.
This is clearly, unequivocally bad for us and the blame falls on Bush and his neocon enablers. Anyone who blames Obama is either ignorant or a politician(or a politically motivated partisan).
Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes her laws. Mayer Amschel Rothschild
I see Bush is still in charge
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Sun, 10/23/2011 - 6:01am.
So this is Bush's fault because (pick one or more):
Oh really!
Submitted by clairesolt on Sun, 10/23/2011 - 8:32am.
I read Paul Bremer's book and he experienced an almost paranoid aversion to Iran among Iraqis. This is just more paternalistic misunderestimating by the self appointed elite. Only they understand democracy which they cannot distinguish from totalitarianism. Has everybody forgotten that the American Revolution was the shot heard round the world? People everywhere have been pining for self determination ever since, and satellite TV made them hunger more.
Iran
Submitted by giatn on Sun, 10/23/2011 - 5:20pm.
This might mark the first time I have agreed with Fareed. I wonder how long it will be
before the public understands that Obama's foreign policy has in effect turned over
Iraq to Iran, Egypt to the Muslim Brotherhood, Libya to al Queda and Sharia law,
Israel to destruction and continues to foment chaos and rebellions in many other
Muslim countries. At the same time, emphasis on Islamic terrorists in law enforcement
training has been removed because Muslims were offended. This at a time when Muslim
extremists have even more reason to protest American involvement in their homelands.
The fact that peaceful Muslims are offended by training materials hardly compares to
the fury Americans have for the loss of lives 9/11. Islam is the only religion I know that
supports the slaughter of "infidels" and rightly deserves as much emphasis as necessary for
national security. Political correctness continues to inhibit common sense actions. I am
aware that all Muslims don't follow the extreme interpretation of the Quran, but if it is only
10% that is 120,000,000 people, at 2% it is still 24,000,000. That's enough for special attention. Obama's willful blindness to the danger of extremists could be fatal to the country. Since America is a sovereign country, why we would encourage Muslim immigration
even if it is only 2% that wish to destroy us. Is there some vital contribution Muslims make here? It's not discrimination when safety is concerned.
So, Fareed, Obama's not listening to you anymore?
Submitted by KyWriter on Sun, 10/23/2011 - 8:17pm.
Your ego must have taken quite a hit.