Matthews Compares Obama to a Clunker: Would You Buy This 'Lousy' Car Again Next Year?
MSNBC's Chris Matthews used to get a thrill up his leg when he heard Barack Obama speak.
After Thursday's pathetic presidential press conference, the "Hardball" host compared Obama to a "lousy" new car that ended up being a "clunker," and then asked the Huffington Post's Jennifer Donahue, "Are you going to buy one next year?" (video follows with transcript and commentary):
CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: Let me tell you the problem with Obama. If you bought a car this year, a Ford or a Chevy, whatever you bought, and it was lousy. It turned out to be a clinker, a clunker. Are you going to buy one next year?
JENNIFER DONAHUE, HUFFINGTON POST: No.
MATTHEWS: Okay, that's the problem. Thank you, Jennifer Donahue, and thank you, Mark McKinnon. That is the problem, he's got to win the argument. “My heart next year, my model next year is going to be so good. Let me show it to you,” and convince us that what he's telling us about the next four years is so compelling, so winning, that we say, “Okay, we know we got a bad model this year, but we’re going to get a good one next year.” I’m just looking at it. He's got to really make this case to win this campaign. It's up to him to do it. He can do it, but what a challenge.
As Matthews would say, wow!
Even more surprising, the host wasn't the only liberal on Thursday's program expressing doubt about Obama.
In an earlier segment, New York magazine's John Heilemann and the Huffington Post's Howard Fineman discussed how the president during Thursday's press conference looked like a man that's really not interested in getting reelected.
Later, the Washington Post's Dana Milbank observed that if this is the kind of fire Obama's got in his belly, it looks like he's taking too much antacid.
Add it up, and on Thursday's show, four Obama-loving liberals were quite unenthusiastic about the object of their affection.
Once again, wow!
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You know all the buttkissing
Submitted by Van Halen on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 7:26pm.
You know all the buttkissing Matthews has been doing to Obama is fake. He's really worried. This is a pretty significant statement from him.
Chrissy Mat will be back on course
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 7:31pm.
After the WH contacts him about this little comment. He likes his knee's
Let me remind you, Chrissy says..
Submitted by USMC8411 on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 5:12pm.
He voted for Bush too, in an attempt to look "fair." He cannot prove or disprove his vote. There is nothing this depends driveler will not say to advance the liberal agenda.
Flood attackwatch with his statements. Get those kneecaps replaced with red/blue obama healthscare pills!
Pinch me.
Submitted by WhoIsJohnGalt on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 7:31pm.
By the way, who's the fivehead in the screencap?
Wow
Submitted by dydx on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 7:35pm.
My jaw just dropped to the floor. My only Hope (tm) is that this isn't a fleeting moment of clarity but rather a trend that the Emperor's biggest sycophants are starting to see the naked truth.
We'll see. My bet it's fleeting, though.
If it isn't, I wonder how long it'll be before all the stuff they've suppressed...Rev. Wright, Ayers, Blago, Van Jones, Mao loving chick, Solyndra, Fast and Furious, etc, etc, etc...will come eking out of their mouths in the years to come.
<Chris Matthews imitation> HA!
Submitted by motherbelt on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 7:49pm.
No worries.....Matthews will buy this clunker again, and won't even quibble about the price.
Yep,
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 8:30pm.
He knows the rest of us will be picking up the tab
Well, since Wall Street ...
Submitted by LibertyAtStake on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 7:44pm.
... gave more money to Obama '08 than any candidate in history ... I guess that makes Obama '08 "Cash For Clunkers."
d(^_^)b
http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
"Because the Only Good Progressive is a Failed Progressive"
Can anyone say campaign ad?
Submitted by FishFace222 on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 4:17pm.
Can anyone say campaign ad?
rats really do leave a sinking ship
Submitted by MidAmerica on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 7:45pm.
If obama's ship of state is obviously taking on water the rats will start to save themselves because they want to keep their jobs and NOT go down with the ship.
Apparently not demoRATS
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 7:51pm.
Considering how many are supporting the parasite protest
Wall Street
Submitted by MidAmerica on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 9:17pm.
The Wall Street demonizing is about more than saving obama. Liberalism is trying to save itself by shifting the blame away from failed Liberal policies to the idea that the wealthy are hoarding all the money. Pure Marxist ideology.
Hilllarrryy.... Hillaaarrryyyyyyyyy
Submitted by kata on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 7:46pm.
that was my best Brando imitation.
nobody believes me
Submitted by dmacleo on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 8:31pm.
but I have said all along she tanked 2008 in order for a strategic 2012 or 2016 run.
success has many father, failure is an orphan
Submitted by MidAmerica on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 7:50pm.
obama better consult with Jimmie Carter about how to survive alone in the political desert. it's going to take a lot of nail pounding for obama to rescue his reputation.
That car was already up on blocks in the back yard in 2008.
Submitted by drsamherman on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 7:51pm.
President Clunker. Good name for him.
I wonder if there will be a cashback option
Submitted by kata on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 8:14pm.
some instructions on how to destroy the engine block so it's valid for trade-in would be nice too.
O'bama is a LEMON...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 5:17pm.
And I want my money back...
It's a never ending attack...
Everything is a lie and that's a fact...
O'bama is a lemon and I want my money back....
Solyndra! Stimulus I-III!
I’m sure both of Mathew’s
Submitted by Reaver on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 7:53pm.
I’m sure both of Mathew’s viewers (not counting family members) have already reported him to attack watch. Even though he tries to couch it in supportive terms, mark this day on your calendars people. The day Chris Mathews’ thrill got downgraded to a tingle. But seriously, is there any question who he’ll vote for next November?
Lol. If some doesn't report
Submitted by dydx on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 12:57am.
Lol. If some doesn't report him mebbee we oughta.
Chris the Wide Mouth Frog
Submitted by CO2Maker on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 7:58pm.
... is a racist! Who'd'a thunk?
What's next, Keith the Sports Boy takes a shower? Rachel/Ron picks Hillary? (Oh, btw, did you see that R/R doesn't think gay marriage is good enough for her and her long-time partner?)
Obama should quit pushing for union jobs
Submitted by linkerone on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 8:15pm.
It seems to me that the real objection to the Obama jobs plan is too much of a focus on Teachers, Police and Fire / or better put..Union Jobs.. As far as I'm concerned, we can hire all the teachers we want, and we will still find that those with the smarts to learn will succeed, those with less smarts will get by, and we will all continue to pick up the tab for the rest. As for police and fire, I'm sick to death of seeing a traffic stop with 3 cop cars pulling up to help.. And, I've never seen a fire, where, regardless of staffing, the departments have failed to respond..
So, let's put the jobs bill to work on the infrastructure, where less government will be involved, more average wage earners will be put to work, more money will be spent with small business. This will ultimately increase sales, which will in turn cause employers to hire more people to , which in turn will stimulate the manufacturers to produce more, which will in turn boost the shipping and transportation, which in turn will increase inventories and create a need for more, and more and so on..
And so goes the REAL cycle of job creation. If anyone just think the employers will magically just start hiring, they know nothing about business!
Jobs will only increase when demand for the products and services they sell or produce increase.. You can take that to the bank!
Three cop cars pulling up to a---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 8:50pm.
traffic stop generally have a very good reason for doing so; and responding to a fire with less than optimum staffing on engines and truck companies may well result in injuries that could have been avoided with full crews.
MD
Not so much
Submitted by linkerone on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 9:38pm.
I imagine anyone can create a justification for just about anything.
However, when see someone stopped on the interstate highway, I see a single patrol car and a single officer. With that analogy, I can only presume several scenarios when I see three cars doing the job of one.. 1, either the department is over staffed, or 2, they just don't have anything else to do.
And as for the Fire department, well let's just say 2 days on and 3 days off is better than a bankers hours, and the risk is about the same!
And, I don't know about your town, but our police and fire are well paid for that risk.. About like bankers!
One of problems with our society as I see it, is that we have tried to create too many layers of protection; so many in fact, we can't reasonably do our jobs any more without fear of over zealous management or political review.
So, minimum staffed
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 9:42pm.
Fire houses and Precincts is better then saving money on bureaucrats? Since when are the bureaucrates going to put your house out, or find the dude who set it a-fire?
Well....I dont know what county you live in...............
Submitted by BEGRUNT on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 9:59pm.
But in the Sheriffs Dept, where I worked we were always on overtime, and never had enough money. I can assure you that if you saw "3 cop cars, one doing the work, and the rest standing around", that there was a REAL reason for it. We were spread so thin that if you saw that in my county, it was real!
Look, I saw the waste and corruption, but it wasn't on account of the line guys...... politics ALWAYS plays into it. Look at any Board Of Supervisors/ City Councils for the real waste! In my state they are all left!!
"A nation can suffer it's fool's, but cannot survive the traitor"
Cicero
linkerone---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:24pm.
Hard to believe you actually put any thought into your latest post --
'Three cars doing the job of one' - one vehicle deserving a ticket for speeding, should result in one officer with one unit pulling over the violator.
If there is more than one unit involved in a traffic stop, it is because the officers have received information regarding that vehicle and/or its occupants requiring multiple units and personnel to deal with a possible or likely dangerous situation.
You apparently have absolutely no understanding of departmental rules, regulations, or concerns for officer safety as they relate to either Police or Fire..
As far as the Fire Service, a 48 hour on, 72 hour off schedule would result in fire personnel being on duty for 96 hours a week, versus a banker's 40 hour week. Being paid at the same rate would mean fire department wages were considerably less than half what a banker would earn as an hourly wage.
As far as the risk equivalent between firefighters and bankers, I'm sure there are numerous instances of paper cuts, shins barked on open desk drawers, and fingers smashed in the closing of vault doors in the banking world.
Horrible, indeed.
" -- and the risk is about the same!"
Even if I had not spent my entire working life both in the Fire Service and Law Enforcement, I would still rate your comparison as one of the most inane I have ever come across.
Sounds to me like you are JAFO.
Just Another Freaking Observer - either clueless, jealous, or both.
MD
Thank you Matthew*
Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:30pm.
Having been in "enforcement" as well in my career, you defended all of us rather well.
linkerone....NB member for 4 yrs and this is his first thread....hmmmm
And the strangest part, cajun, ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:32pm.
is that your job put you in just as many perilous situations as I ever saw, or more.
Much respect, indeed, have you earned.
MD
Thats sweet Matthew*
Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:41pm.
And now that you are beginning to get to know me, you can guess why they never let me carry a weapon....LOL
How many sleeper accounts are out there, I wonder?
Submitted by drsamherman on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:41pm.
I am noticing a pattern wherein these posters who registered long ago suddenly re-animate like Lazarus and start spouting Pro-bama nonsense. Gee, no overt agenda there.
Just the price is different drsam*
Submitted by cajun2 on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:58pm.
Cajun calls these posters "sto' bought" trolls. They are paid to type lib lies from 5x7 cards which is why they look like idiots when they try to expound on the talking points.
These days, it seems, you get what you pay for..LOL
Has it been that long?
Submitted by linkerone on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 8:03am.
4 years... Has it been that long.. It was just about that long ago that I entered a house, and pulled out a dog and a kid from a small fire. Both survived, and as far as I'm concerned, I was never in danger. The chicken fire fighters told me to stay away, and attempted to prosecute me for civil disobedience. Fortunately, the family and the public saw things differently.
I have no use for the modern day police or fire who spend too much time and money on gadgets and gimmicks to save themselves, rather than saving the victims. Public policy any more seems to dictate " save yourself first" then the victims... if any survive on their own.
My question to you sir, is why let others defend you.. I guess it's so typical today that public employee let "the system" defend their inadequacy.
Got a link?
Submitted by sentry_99 on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 8:17am.
I'm sure your heroic deed was in the paper. You probably wrote it yourself after changing back in to your mild mannered alter ego in the nearest phone both.
Sentry: I found it.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 8:44am.
Looks like it was really horrific.
SOL
Submitted by sentry_99 on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 8:50am.
Lucky he was there.
And they were there...
Submitted by USMC8411 on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 6:17pm.
http://iconicphotos.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/911-firemen/
I can't really "prove" that those are actual firefighters, so, maybe it never happened?
On the other hand.... this seems to be factual:
http://www.ironmanmag.com.au/news/42-bodybuilder-busted
The point being, forget the personal attacks and attack the argument folks. Obama has no jobs bill. He has a tax increase demand disguised as a jobs bill. I have not seen one "occupier" waving the jobs bill in the air demanding that it be passed. I see arrests, anti Semitic rhetoric, and a rent-a-mob without a purpose or a goal, OR a clear explanation of why they are there! The rent-a-mob is powered by capitalist products such as ipads, tents, etc... The very things they seem to be angry about!
Linkerone, if you knew about business, you would know that obama is killing small business and their ability to create jobs with oppressive tax rates and unrealistic regulatory binders. Obama halted domestic oil production. Obama wants to bankrupt coal mining companies. Obama has demonized wall street, and now he is paying the price in campaign contributions being lost.
The dems have pushed the nuclear option button to avoid going on record with a vote on that "jobs bill" that you cite as a value.
Please, linkerone, explain why that may be.... His own party is defying the "pass this bill now!"
Cajun's defenders*
Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 1:17pm.
There are some NBers that know my opinion on certain issues. They do at times come to my defense as well as others. This "typical public employee" is retired. And I certainly do not feel an overwhelming urge to defend myself to your kind.
Besides, I'm wearing my dress pumps today...
Don't sell yourself short, cajun...
Submitted by motherbelt on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 1:36pm.
We know you can kick a$$ in high heels..... ;-)
Thank you motherbelt*
Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 6:15pm.
But I didn't want to walk around in this guy's merde in my good shoes...;-)
I suppose it never occured to you...
Submitted by Radical1979 on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 1:29pm.
that by going in there you gave the firefighters one more potential victim they would have to rescue? And I don't recall that firefighters signed a contract to put the victims of the fire above their own lives. There is a method to fighting different types of fires and rescuing people without losing their own lives. You really think they shouldn't be concerned about saving themselves? Why don't you join the fire or police departments and see how willing you are to run into danger every day without properly protecting yourself?
And I got news for you, if we want to defend someone like cajun, who has been in harms way in defense of the defenseless, we will. Deal with it.
Protect and defend who?
Submitted by linkerone on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 9:25am.
You stated: You apparently have absolutely no understanding of departmental rules, regulations, or concerns for officer safety as they relate to either Police or Fire..
Oh but I do.. It's just over the recent years, the police and fire have created more processes to save or pretect themselves, and have initiated few if any to "protect and defend" the public which they serve!
You Stated: As far as the Fire Service, a 48 hour on, 72 hour off schedule would result in fire personnel being on duty for 96 hours a week, versus a banker's 40 hour week. Being paid at the same rate would mean fire department wages were considerably less than half what a banker would earn as an hourly wage.
Yea, I guess you could say that, but if you subtract the time they spend cooking, sleeping, and maintaining the equipment, then they only provide the risk based services they are trained and paid to perform, an hour or so a week.. So, Yes, I have lost a lot of respect for a service that is more interested in serving themselves than the public! The unions I feel have caused this loss of respect ! I browsed through a recent union contract in the process of negoiation, and there is literally no mention of the people they are paid to serve! It's all about them, their hours, their pay, their life & health insurance, their time off, their sleeping condition, food budgets, exercise room, recreation, uniform allowances, and the like.
You stated: Way more than necessary! JAFO indeed!
Firefighters only fight fires "an hour or so a week"?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 9:32am.
Gee, for a minute there I thought you just pulled that stat out of your ass.
But yeah, it's a crying shame there are not more fires for them to fight. But I think there will be in the near future.
SoL,
Submitted by Agnostic on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 9:46am.
To be fair it does depend upon where you live. I've dealt with the local fire departments in three states now and the differences are night and day (sometimes there are huge differences between counties).
One particular station did not have enough staffing and being on duty actually meant being in the Fire House and working at least 12 hours - that was the norm.
In another station, every single member of the Fire House had a start up business that they were running simultaneously while playing in multiple softball leagues and being paid to participate in city functions.
Those two houses were far away from each other but part of the same state - Florida.
I've been in 23 very small to small fires in my career and I wouldn't want to do the big fires so for the most part I support all fire departments but they are not all created equal.
I agree, Agnostic
Submitted by SickofLibs on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 9:59am.
I was objecting to his made-up generic "statistic." I realize actual hours deployed vary wildly.
Agree SoL*
Submitted by cajun2 on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 6:20pm.
Fire fighters dont have much "fire" down here in south La so our fire fighters are called Fire And Rescue for a reason. They are trained for all kinds of life threatening and emergency situations like floods and hurricanes. One incident does not translate well to the other 56 states...
And because cajun men know how to cook, they feed themselves....LOL
Horray, We Agree!.....I think!
Submitted by linkerone on Sat, 10/08/2011 - 3:25pm.
"We must first change our outlook on how we allow others to aquire the power to have influence over our lives before we seek to lay the blame on others. Accountability has to be the new American norm."
Now, that's the right attitude! Political subdivisions must learn to co-operate. Instead, we currently seem to have too much of a desire to maintain independant departments, instead of a more logical departmental / subdivision co-operation to keep costs in order, and conserve resources.. Cities, Counties, and Townships, togeather, the public wins..
Zero tolerance is a manufacturing specification, not a way of life.
linkerone, Try some budget cutting on newer gov programs.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 2:28pm.
Police and the Fire departments are necessary in a civilization. Been around for over a hundred years.
You need to look at folks that are layers and layers deep far away from the view of the taxpayer. Wealth destructive monopolistic secret bureaus paper passing within gleaming granite and marble coated halls with the obligatory union and gov perks.
Leave the police alone.
Police N Fire folk need redundant voluminous documentation in this Tort happy environment, thus sucking up manpower.
You Didn't Build That.
VFDs
Submitted by Unsane on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 9:29pm.
And don't forget, as linkerone seems to have forgotten:
The far-reaching majority of firefighters in this country do their job FOR FREE.
I guess we won't be seeing linkerone at a sausage supper or any other sort of VFD fundraiser anytime soon, huh?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
On the contrary
Submitted by linkerone on Sat, 10/08/2011 - 3:33pm.
I guess we won't be seeing linkerone at a sausage supper or any other sort of VFD fundraiser anytime soon, huh?
On the contrary, I subsidized their campaign for new equipment, I voted for their last levy, and I purchase their fund raisers!
Remember here, I am expressing an opinion, based on my first hand experience. And, as I said above, just because there are existing rules, doesn't make them the right rules.. No pun intended! Our laws concerning Police, Fire, and even Teachers are full of unnecessary and expensive pocket padding processes, because they let the unions write the laws, and define their implementation.. So much of it is wrong and unintended, it has corrupted the good, and well intended!
By the way, all our so called volunteers still get most of their training funded, and are paid a small amount for each call. There is value to being a volunteer, and it can range anywhere to community / peer recognition, to just the experience.!
Ingrate
Submitted by Unsane on Sat, 10/08/2011 - 10:43pm.
As a former volunteer firefighter - in a well-to-do department, no less - that statement about getting paid a small amount for each call? Total BS. My training was funded, yes - by donations and by working with other departments. I visited a burn house for a day of valuable training because a friend in a neighboring county, himself a volunteer firefighter, told me about the opportunity (for one example).
While I won't deny the existence of police and firefighting unions (which shouldn't exist, IMHO), the rest of your posts here are crap as well. Long timers here on NB know that I am not shy about my criticisms of the police. That being said, I know that whenever you have two cop cars at one traffic stop, it is far from routine. I've been pulled over many a time and while quite a few of those cops have been complete d***s to me, for some bizarre reason, a second cop never came by. This is because I've never had a warrant nor gave the cop a reason to call for backup.
As for firefighters, I can relate to their issues, having been a volunteer. I know what it's like to be roused from my bed at 2 in the morning for medical emergencies or for fire alarms or confirmed structure fires and so forth.
May I recommend that you stop being such an ingrate?
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
linkerone---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 10/08/2011 - 3:43am.
JAFO is exactly right as a description for you - you flap your jaw, but have never worked civil service as either a law enforcement type or a fire fighter.
Yet you spin a marvelous tale about performing a heroic rescue that on scene, trained fire personnel would NOT commit to.
Tell me more about saving a kid and a dog from a SMALL fire the firefighters were apparently doing absolutely nothing about.
Your story reeks of being self serving. Either you are a damned liar, or you aren't telling the whole story. Likely the former.
Fire personnel on duty for 24 hours do have to eat; would you prefer they eat every meal at a fast food joint, burning up expensive fuel twice a day to go out for lunch and dinner? By cooking inhouse, they save considerable money.
You make the mistake many complainers do - you believe the accent should be on the word servant in the phrase"public servant".
It isn't. Never was, never will be.
List any occupation where the individuals involved are NOT concerned about their hours, their pay, their life and health insurance,and their time off,
Firefighters are confined to a single location for a 24 hour period as a condition of employment; and if they don't like being required to be there that long they are free to look for other employment. What is your preference - pay a crew of four for a 24 hour shift, or have three four person crews, for a total of twelve personnel, work eight hours each to fill that 24 hour period? Before you say the wages would amount to the same figure - a person being paid $50,000 dollars a year costs the governing agency another $50,000 in paying partially into the retirement system and for additional bargained for items, such as a uniform allowance. A crew of four would represent a $400,000 per annum outlay; to have a total of twelve bodies to cover the same time frame would mean hiring an additional eight people over the original four, thereby costing another $400,000 a year, irrespective of wages, in benefits packages for eight more personnel.
In a busy station, sleep is often at a premium, You damned right there are concerns about sleeping as comfortably as you can, when you can,
Exercise rooms contain items necessary to stay in shape, in order to better perform the job.. Departments in Southern California will not hire smokers and specify no smoking is allowed while off duty either.
The time spent maintaining equipment is no different than in any occupation; if your tools aren't ready to be employed properly, chances are you won't be employed for long either.
As I said, you were either clueless, jealous, or both. Your subsequent posts show you to be both, with a side of whiny.
Processes put in place to protect police and fire personnel serve in the long run to ensure they are there to protect the public - even ungrateful complainers like you.
MD
J.A.F.O. indeed! What say we...
Submitted by linkerone on Sat, 10/08/2011 - 3:30pm.
I think anyone can present many valid arguments for everything that is done anywhere, anytime, by anybody. Does that make it right. Does that make it necessary. Does that make it fair and equitable. Does that make it affordable to the taxpayer. Who is the intended beneficiary of the rule anyway? Our laws are full of loopholes to allow the padding of many pockets. Our laws are fill of loop holes to satisfy wants, and not necessarily needs! Those laws need to be changed. To attempt to define change simply by defending need not to change is simply stubborn... It's kind of like many of the Tea Party candidates taking a pledge to never raise taxes, where in fact, they were elected to represent a district, not a philosophical point of view, and defining an policy of no compromise, no way, no how, is not the mark of a good politician, or even a good person. .
So, add whatever initials you want to me, but it doesn't make me wrong. The bottom line however, is that I am expressing an opinion based on first hand and even insider knowledge.
You know, I also hate the fact that celebrating in the endzone after an offensive touchdown is determined by rule to be celebratory and is penalized, however the defense can do a war dance on the offenses backfield after a sack, and it is not penalized.. Quite frankly I don't give a damn about how, when or where the TD rule was originated, it's unfair and makes no equitable sense to me. It's human nature to celebrate in victory. Likewise,, we hang our heads in defeat. So, why is it different if the offense does it in the endzone, or the defense does it in the offenses backfield. Now, take that and chew on it awhile !
Zero tolerance is a manufacturing specification, not a way of life!
"I browsed through a recent union contract"
Submitted by UpNorth on Sat, 10/08/2011 - 3:28pm.
Really? How about you link to the contract? Otherwise, what you're spewing is BS. And, why, exactly, should there be any "mention of the people they are paid to serve"? They know who they're serving. Most of them aren't like liberals, they don't need to have everything pointed out to them.
And, if you're bitching about work conditions, food allowances, clothing allowances, pay, life and health insurance appearing in a bargaining agreeement, I'm reasonably certain that you have never participated in a collective bargaining session for any public safety people, nor even read a contract.
JAFO, indeed, describes you perfectly.
collective barganing..
Submitted by linkerone on Sat, 10/08/2011 - 6:27pm.
"collective bargaining" ....
And therein lies the problem! Hopefully this all ends sooner, rather than later!
Collective Barganing, or, How to over value a human resource and keep a job for life!
Zero tolerance is a manufacturing specification, not a way of life
linkerone---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 10/08/2011 - 9:18pm.
In two separate posts now, you have mentioned that anyone can present many valid arguments for everything that is done anywhere, anytime, by anybody.
Based on that statement, your offered opinion may not make you wrong, but neither does it make you right.
You say your opinion is put forth relying on first hand and even insider knowledge.
Pray tell, share some of that 'first hand and even insider knowledge' to explain to me why on scene fire personnel not only tried to prevent your historic kid/dog rescue from a 'small' fire, but actually threatened to arrest you for your heroically successful endeavor.
Any newspaper clippings or video to mark the momentous occasion; or am I just supposed to take your word for it - the word of a person who fills the majority of his posts with anti Fire Department and Police Department screeds?
MD
I think that the JAFO has left the building.
Submitted by UpNorth on Sat, 10/08/2011 - 10:32pm.
I'm not going to hold my breath for him to crawl out from under his rock in four years, again.
In other words, it is long
Submitted by dscott on Sun, 10/09/2011 - 8:13am.
In other words, it is long past time to put down the shovel since he has clearly dug the hole exceedingly deep expressing his opinion.
Nice dodge, JAFO.
Submitted by UpNorth on Sat, 10/08/2011 - 10:36pm.
I do note that you do love to tap dance, and espouse your talking points, but seem totally unable to respond to a single request for validation of any the tripe that you have posted.
Some thing in the water
Submitted by Tjexcite on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 8:31pm.
Or is that kool-aid or lack the of. All of the kool-aid in NYC s being used at wall street. Once he gets the mandatory injection of kool-aid he will be back to "drinking the bath water" and not need more than just hope and change.
Who needs a plan when the whole plan is nothing but hope and change, and for a time that was enough but when the kool-aid is low hope and change is low.
It's obvious that Obama is going down
Submitted by OxyCon on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 8:38pm.
Obama knows he is a failed President who is going down and he's determined to take the whole country down with him.
Amazing stuff. Hey, Chris!
Submitted by Immortal Fish on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 8:53pm.
Amazing stuff. Hey, Chris! I thought we had to put it in "D" for drive, not "R" for reverse?
pathetic presidential press conference
Submitted by Rackie on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 9:14pm.
Obama seemed defeated. Tired and depressed. As if he wanted out.
Obama seemed ....
Submitted by sherlock1 on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 9:27pm.
Obama seemed .... As if he wanted out.
Hot damn! I finally am a patriot again: I agree with the POTUS wholeheartedly on something!
I hope Prissy and Hank Jr. have their tax records in order
Submitted by Dave. on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 9:40pm.
I have a feeling they are going to need them.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
1 of them will be treated as
Submitted by Boudin on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 9:48pm.
Staff, the other like a millionaire and billionaire.
Will Chris et.al....
Submitted by jimbo297 on Thu, 10/06/2011 - 10:18pm.
...be passing in their homework tomorrow?
That press conference has me a little spooked...there were a couple lines I read in the AP version on Drudge...scary...
He instructs his media heathens to ""go ask Republicans what their jobs plan is."
I believe a suitable response to Barry is "go ask the Democrats where their budget is."
But the presser wasn't even about the content--his policies and governing efforts are no longer relevant, and he knows it. He has taken serious political, if not criminal, hits, and he knows it. If power is going to be retained, he must act now, and he knows it.
And he gives it all away in the end. " all I can do is make the best arguments and mobilize the American people so that they're responsive."
THAT'S his answer to his "do-nothing" Democrat and Republican Congress. Popular agitation.
For as much as the Occuposers are an astroturf phenomenon, these comments by our President seem alooooot like a veiled threat.
Spooked
Thus we see the difference
Submitted by dscott on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 2:38am.
Thus we see the difference between a Democrat and a liberal. The Democrat will figuratively chew his foot off when faced with the prospect of loosing prime patronage (profit) by maintaining his agenda item whereas a liberal would rather die of gangrene than to de facto admit his agenda was rejected by the majority. That blood trailing on the floor behind Matthews is what's coming off his stump.
Matthews is a Democrat, a self serving money grubber who would rather preserve his perks when he can't convince you to keep buying his PC crap (poseur). Liberals take note, Democrats will sell you out when it is inconvenient (not profitable) for them, just look at what happened to Michael Moore and Cindy Sheehan... You should be voting Socialist Party, not the Democrat Party.
Since I don't watch any of Obama's speeches on TV anymore,
Submitted by jawebster1 on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 4:11am.
I will take everyone at their word that Obama is no longer "the one" who electrified the masses.
I will never have "buyer's remorse" because I never bought the "clunker" in the first place.
This second comment is a result of my "double clicking" my slow computer. Sorry.
Since I don't watch any of Obama's speeches on TV anymore,
Submitted by jawebster1 on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 4:09am.
I will take everyone at their word that Obama is no longer "the one" who electrified the masses.
I will never have "buyer's remorse" because I never bought the "clunker" in the first place.
Trust me
Submitted by jakee308 on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 5:01am.
Chrissy will buy the clunker again in 2012.
This is just to generate viewers; Reps wanting the schadenfreude and Dems for the outrage.
What I'd like to know is what kind of meds Chrissy is taking cause one day he's in the clouds and the next he's in the sewer and sometimes he's on planet Bizarro.
Chrissy Matthews - Isn't This the Guy?
Submitted by Retired Geek on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 5:01am.
Chrissy Matthews - Isn't This the Guy that would fall on his knees and open his mouth every time Barack Obama opened his mouth?
"This is bigger than Kennedy. . . . This is the New Testament...I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don't have that too often. No, seriously. It's a dramatic event."
Chris Matthews
"... a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany ... and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama"
Barack Obama
Andrew Klavan asks - Is Barack Obama Jesus Christ?
http://thpatriots.blogspot.com/2010/10/andrew-klavan-asks-is-barack-obam...
Cash for Clunkers
Submitted by CobraMan on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 11:50am.
"He's got to really make this case to win this campaign. It's up to him to do it. He can do it, but what a challenge."
I see that Matthews is still paying out Cash for Clunkers.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Hate to object, Noel, but the
Submitted by lotr on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 1:11pm.
Hate to object, Noel, but the thrill is still there for Chris Matthews. What he's lamenting about, the "problem" he speaks of, is that Obama may not get re-elected. He then muses about what Obama needs to do to change this unfortunate circumstance, and optimistically concludes "he can do it."
Matthews hasn't lost that lovin feeling.
now for some funnies
Submitted by lotr on Fri, 10/07/2011 - 1:16pm.
http://lmaobama.com/