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Maher Cheers Murder of U.S. Citizen Awlaki Despite Favoring Civilian Trial for 9/11 Mastermind KSM

By Noel Sheppard | October 01, 2011 | 16:47

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It really has been amazing watching dovish media members who were perpetually complaining about the terrorist detention center at Guantanamo Bay and the enhanced interrogation of its residents when George W. Bush was president now cheering the assassination of United States citizen turned terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki.

A fine example of this hypocrisy occurred on HBO's "Real Time" Friday when the host who just last year supported a civilian trial for 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed applauded Awlaki's murder while encouraging his audience to join in the merriment (video follows with transcript and commentary, vulgarity warning):

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BILL MAHER, HOST: No, I know why you're happy tonight. President bad ass has done it again. A predator drone killed Anwar al-Awlaki. You can applaud that if you like.

[Applause]

He is Al-Awlaki, is the, well United States citizen is what he is. He was living in Yemen, became the world's most wanted terrorist. And it just shows once again do not f--k with Obama.

This was how Friday's show began: a liberal Hollywoodan cheered what many would consider an unConstitutional assassination of a U.S. citizen and encouraged his liberal audience to celebrate with him.

It almost defies the imagination.

A few minutes later, while discussing national security issues with the Washington Post's Dana Priest, Awlaki came up again:

DANA PRIEST, WASHINGTON POST: Bin Laden's dead. Al Qaeda's almost dead. And the guys who really know what they're doing and women they have a bead on the organizations that are coming up. That's al-Awlaki. That's why he got whacked.

MAHER: That’s why he got whacked, and I’m glad he did.

"That’s why he got whacked, and I’m glad he did."

After dismissing Priest, Maher brought Awlaki up with his exclusively liberal panelists:

MAHER: And Chris Christie the other night, the new flavor of the month as they call him, the new man crush of the Republican Party, was at the Reagan library, and he said in his big speech that the president was just a bystander in the Oval Office. And then the next day Obama killed al-Awlaki, which I love. So I just want to say: maybe Obama’s bad at class warfare, but warfare warfare, he's pretty good.

FORMER MICHIGAN GOVERNOR JENNIFER GRANHOLM (D): I would say so.

[Applause]

A few minutes later:

MAHER: So were we right to kill al-Awlaki. I mean, look, Ron Paul, who I don’t agree with on a lot of things, but he has the balls the size of a Smart Car. He really does. He came out…

SALMAN RUSHDIE, AUTHOR: Not necessarily helpful.

MAHER: Maybe not. But, you know, he said we shouldn't do it. He said, his points were this is an American citizen Awlaki, never killed anybody personally. We're not at war with Yemen and he never had a trial. I don't agree with that, but you know…

"He never had a trial. I don't agree with that." Readers are advised to remember this.

SETH MACFARLANE, CREATOR “FAMILY GUY: It's a weird gray area because my first instinct when I read this was, “Well, yeah, that makes perfect sense.” There was no feasible way that we could arrest this guy. So what else do you do? If Osama bin Laden would had been an American citizen we still would have had to go in and deal with him as we did.

GRANHOLM: Take him out. Take him out.

 

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Fascinating. So a perilously liberal Hollywoodan and a former Democratic governor both think that if bin Laden had been an American, he wouldn't have been entitled to the rights of a U.S. citizen, and could have been assassinated exactly the way it occurred earlier this year without a formal arrest and a trial.

Yet these same people for years carped and whined about non-American enemy combatants - aka terrorists - being detained at Gitmo without due process, and even fought for civilian trials in Manhattan for folks directly connected to 9/11.

MACFARLANE: But then then, start to think, well, you know, if you think for a little longer, it’s, there are certain, the price of freedom comes with certain, certain unpleasantness that, you know, we sometimes give up a little bit of our safety and in return we all make the agreement that we all have the same rights, and when you kind of throw all of that out the window, as much as we trust Obama, would we want to see a President Bachmann with the same right to do that?

MAHER: Right.

MACFARLANE: And once you open that can of worms, you can't close it again. So that's a little scary.

Again fascinating: liberal presidents should be allowed to ignore due process and habeas corpus - because we "trust" them! - but we certainly wouldn't want that same privilege accorded a conservative president.

In effect, the Constitution should be interpreted differently depending on who's in the White House.

Scary indeed, but the best was still to come:

RUSHDIE: Just to say that there, there is a crime called treason.

MAHER: Right.

RUSHDIE: And when people commit the crime of treason…

MACFARLANE: You just sounded like something out of the HMS Pinafore. That was great.

RUSHDIE: You should hear me sing. Gilbert and Sullivan, I can do it.

MACFARLANE: Ah, yeah.

RUSHDIE: But, you know, when people commit treason, join the enemy, fight against their own country, they usually sacrifice a few rights.

MAHER: Right. And also the penalty for treason is death, I believe.

GRANHOLM: Exactly right.

[Applause]

Actually, not exactly right. According to U.S. code title 18, subsection 2381:

Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.

As such, a person convicted of treason isn't automatically put to death, which means that in the case of Awlaki, the Obama administration acted as his judge, jury, and executioner.

One would think liberals would find this totally abhorrent. Apparently not when a Democrat is in the White House.

But the hypocrisy goes much deeper, for on February 16, 2010, Maher had a much different view of how terrorists should be treated under the eyes of the law:

MAHER: I think the idea that we use an army to fight terrorism is just wrong. They don't have an army, they have exploding underwear. It's just not a wise decision. And he's -- he's also -- what I don't admire is that he's a -- he's a liar, you know. I mean...

LARRY KING, HOST: Whoa.

MAHER: Yes, but he is. He just missed -- Joe Biden had that correct. You know, for -- for him to go after the Democrats for treating terrorists the exact same way that his administration did. And, of course...

KING: Which was wrong?

MAHER: -- we have to -- you have to -- many -- any of them. They were all tried in courts in America and all put away. You know, I, if I was a criminal or a terrorist, whatever you want to call them, yes, I would fear the most a prosecutor -- a seasoned federal prosecutor in our system, you know, like Eliot Spitzer was, those kinds of guys.

KING: Yes.

MAHER: Julie, Giuliani himself, I think, was that.

KING: Tough.

MAHER: Yes, tough. And there's a reason they've put them all away and a reason they will -- they will never get out of prison, because if there's one thing we can still do in this country, it's put people in prison and keep them there.

KING: So you favor a civilian trial for the guy responsible for 9/11?

MAHER: Yes.

KING: In -- in Manhattan, where it happened?

MAHER: In Manhattan.

So in February 2010, when the Obama administration was thinking of trying KSM and others in Manhattan, Maher was all for it saying, "The idea that we use an army to fight terrorism is just wrong" and "If I was a criminal or a terrorist, whatever you want to call them, yes, I would fear the most a prosecutor -- a seasoned federal prosecutor in our system."

In effect, the war on terrorism should be fought in the courtroom and not on the battlefield. But nineteen months later, using the military to murder a U.S. citizen without an arrest, trial, prosecution, conviction, and sentencing is just fine.

And this man is considered by some to be a political pundit whose views should be taken seriously.

To paraphrase MacFarlane, that's a lot scary.

Of course, it should go without saying the conservative view on this issue is and has been far more consistent than the liberal one.

The Right for the most part had no problem with how Bush prosecuted the war on terror and have for the most part backed Obama's decisions concerning Gitmo, bin Laden, and Awlaki.

If only our counterparts on the other side of the aisle and in the media were capable of making policy decisions without regard to Party.

I know that's asking way too much.

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Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Click here to follow Noel Sheppard on Twitter.
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what a luxury

Submitted by kata on Sat, 10/01/2011 - 5:04pm.

To have absolute moral certitude based solely on "their guy" being in power.

Give Peas a Chance. ☑ ABØ in 2012
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Noel, We Love Ya Buddy But,...

Submitted by Winghunter on Sat, 10/01/2011 - 5:40pm.

...you don't have to ignore history to make your point.

"As such, a person convicted of treason isn't automatically put to death"

From unceremonious firing squads or a pistol shot to the head immediately upon discovery, we have never suffered traitors and we're not about to start now - even with a Comrade In Chief in the White House.

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Really??

Submitted by Joe W. on Sat, 10/01/2011 - 5:49pm.

Care to provide a few examples, my friend??

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Hunter

Submitted by Noel Sheppard on Sat, 10/01/2011 - 6:11pm.

Hunter,

I accurately cited the code on this including a link. ns

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I was gong to post .....

Submitted by Redrowan2000 on Sat, 10/01/2011 - 8:43pm.

But your post says it all.  These American haters would have been bashing Bush louder than Al Sharpton  screaming racism at White Rain Shampoo.

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Funny how just over a week

Submitted by JdfinCT on Sat, 10/01/2011 - 9:50pm.

Funny how just over a week ago Maher was blasting the crowd at the debate for cheering executions. I mean so killing a US citizen without trial is ok if he's a traitor, but it's not ok to put a murderer to death who in put on trial and convicted by his peers. Odd logic Maher has.

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Maher's admiration of the unitary presidency

Submitted by lrgon on Sun, 10/02/2011 - 2:55pm.

And also ironic to watch Bush fans cheering like little girls at Obama uses the presidency like Bush did - the unitary president ordering the killing of a man without a trial.

Please, neoconia, spare us the ritual that Americans in an undeclared war have no rights. Hitler and Stalin and Pol Pot said the same thing.

Little girls playing at patriot-tissm;  cheering a marxist unitary presidency is quite chilling.  

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I can't tell if you're

Submitted by kata on Sun, 10/02/2011 - 3:09pm.

I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or berating me.

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Belive me Kat

Submitted by Rukus on Sun, 10/02/2011 - 8:03pm.

He's bashing, it's what he does. He is a professional troll.

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well,

Submitted by kata on Sun, 10/02/2011 - 8:25pm.

I thought I'd be polite and ask.

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As far as Granholm, it's not surprising

Submitted by UpNorth on Sat, 10/01/2011 - 5:45pm.

she ended up on Maher's show. 

For a former prosecutor, her agreement with MacFarlane is surprising, her ignorance, not so much so. 

This is a woman who is touted, off and on, as another SCOTUS pick for comrade 0.  She's a former Assistant US attorney, and is so ignorant that, as Noel pointed out, she's unaware that there is a penalty less than death, for treason.  In light of Kagan and the Wise Latina, I guess that makes her a lock for the next opening?  After all, she is woefully ignorant, female, left of Comrade Dear Leader, and has the destruction of the Michigan economy to her credit.  What's not to like?/s

To re-elect Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and hitting the iceberg again.
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Trust?

Submitted by Joe W. on Sat, 10/01/2011 - 5:45pm.

Trust Obama???   Bwahahahahahahahaha...snort..snort..bwahahahahahahahahahahaha...you're killin' me....

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It all boils down to whose in the WH

Submitted by Tjexcite on Sat, 10/01/2011 - 6:18pm.

If hairy back guy KSM was the one in Yemen and was just taken out Maher would be all for it.

The initial opposition to battlefield justice was a symptom of BDS. As nothing O does, even if the same as GWB is wrong it is only wrong when Bush did it. The current allowance of battlefield justice is okay because no credit could be given to GWB so it was all Obama and thus good.

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I'm glad we finally smoked Al-Awlaki, but...

Submitted by sherlock1 on Sat, 10/01/2011 - 6:40pm.

I'm glad we finally smoked Al-Awlaki, but is it too much to ask that all of our self-appointed guardians of human rights and peace and civil liberties, not to mention all the Democrats in Congress, all the newspaper editors, comedians, and movie stars, could support our right to take out our enemies any time our security requires it, and not just only when the rest of us Americans have qualified to receive their permission by having elected a Democrat President?

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enemy combatant or criminal?

Submitted by clarityrising on Sun, 10/02/2011 - 5:47am.

Okay people, we can't have it both ways.  Are terrorists enemy combatants or criminals?  Sinc we are fighting them on the battlefield with the military and locking them away at GITMO, I'm leaning towards enemy combatant.  Did we arrest Americans during WWII who went and fought for the Nazis?  Ummm... no, we killed them as the enemy.  I for one do not see a constitutional issue, if it is, then all drone strikes are unconstitutional.

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enemy combatants get our foreign aid though

Submitted by lrgon on Sun, 10/02/2011 - 3:02pm.

We kill the Taliban in Afghanistan and drone them in Yemen and give them a great amount of money and even train the terrorists. http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/857

And we are expected to cheer a marxist president's unitary actions? will these actions have repercussions on all other Americans' (patriotic and law abiding) rights under the 5th thru 8th amendments? You better believe  it!

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Water boarding vs Killing

Submitted by Kingfish17 on Sat, 10/01/2011 - 7:07pm.

Water Boarding deserves year, after year, after year of quasi debate on the MSM with 95% of the opinion being that  it's torture and it's wrong and we should put anybody connected with water boarding on trial and then throw them in jail.

Targeting terrorists and blasting them with smart bombs and drones, which may not kill them, but leave them suffering with pain that eclipses the effects of water boarding, well, that's ok.

It's all how you have your MSM lackeys frame the debate.

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asking a liberal not to be a

Submitted by SDS on Sat, 10/01/2011 - 9:39pm.

asking a liberal not to be a hypocrite is like asking a skunk not to stink.

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or asking

Submitted by lrgon on Sun, 10/02/2011 - 3:04pm.

a neocon to wake up?

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Or asking you to shut up

Submitted by Rukus on Sun, 10/02/2011 - 8:10pm.

With all your moonbat rantings. You do realize "neocon" is a derogatory term, didn't think so.

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As long as the media and the left are so dishonest......

Submitted by FistsforLiberty on Sat, 10/01/2011 - 7:47pm.

This country is DOOMED!, but keep up the fight Noel and Newsbusters.

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What will their excuse be in a few years?

Submitted by Junk Science Skeptic on Sat, 10/01/2011 - 10:54pm.

I realize that we'll never hold libtards to their beliefs of just a few years ago, with things like "dissent being the highest form of patriotism," and the like, having quickly dissappeared down the memory hole. But when it comes to documented policies, in this case the "termination" of an enemy combatant who happens to be a U.S. citizen, how exactly will the libs contort themselves to come out against armed drone strikes ordered by a conservative president in just a few years?

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I am glad the guy is dead, but. . . .

Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Sun, 10/02/2011 - 6:09am.

So what is there to stop Obama from killing, say, Herman Cain? He is a threat to the Obama Presidency, isn't he?

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Leave HBO

Submitted by JustAl on Sun, 10/02/2011 - 8:08am.

I ended a subscription of many years specifically because of this excrement, and advise everyone to do the same.

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Two people, neither citizens

Submitted by Ashrak on Sun, 10/02/2011 - 12:33pm.

Two people, neither citizens of this country, having a child here and then leaving this nation, with the child in tow, cannot a Citizen make.

The idiocy that is our Citizenship status system must be resolved forthrightly.  It must be admitted that the 14th Amendment was addressing former slaves, those who were brought here against their will and their posterity. 

It was not to create anchor baby status for those who were either not supposed to be here in the first place or those who are simply visiting and birth a child. For if that is the case, then America is not and can never be a nation of its own.  It is simply the world's playground to come and romp at its leisure. Stop in for a few days, pop a kid and BINGO all the benefits of American Citizenship forever....... BOVINE EXCREMENT!

That said, it was right and proper to destroy this terrorist, this self declared enemy of the Constitution of these united States.

There was no assassination here. There was no murder here. An act of defensive war being waged took place. Nothing more and nothing less.

 

Let me know when a real American who is not engaged in self declared war against this nation's people is murdered here at home.

That an individual right exists requires that some policy positions be removed from the table of debate.
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cheering whose death?

Submitted by lrgon on Sun, 10/02/2011 - 3:07pm.

The Bill of Rights or the Terrorists that are alive and well due to US foreign aid and training courtesy of US policy makers? http://thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/1522

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So, it's all our fault

Submitted by Rukus on Sun, 10/02/2011 - 8:13pm.

Figures. Don't blame the ones that target us just because we are Christian, nope, blame us. Go live in another country America hater!

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