Scarborough Challenges Obama-Supporting WaPo Columnist: Did Voters Elect An Unqualified President?
For the second time in as many days, MSNBC's Joe Scarborough took issue with a Washington Post Obama-apologist for blaming all that ails the nation on the Republican Party.
What made Friday's "Morning Joe" more delicious was the Post's Eugene Robinson was present this time, and after predictably defending the current White House resident while pointing fingers at the GOP was marvelously asked by the host, "Isn't there also though a larger context that the United States citizens may have just elected a president that was not ready to run the most complex economy in the world?" (video follows with transcript and commentary):
JOE SCARBOROUGH, CO-HOST: I've got two words for you Gene: hope and change. Anything is possible. You've just got to believe.
EUGENE ROBINSON, WASHINGTON POST: Well, that’s, and sometimes that hopey changey stuff works out for you.
MIKA BRZEZINSKI, CO-HOST: Oh, I'm just surprised given what Gene wrote in the Washington Post. I mean, seriously, you’d think…
SCARBOROUGH: What did he write?
BRZEZINSKI: Well he wrote this. It's called "Bad Memories."
“The Bush administration took Reagan’s tax-cutting, government-starving philosophy much too far. Today’s Republican Party takes it well beyond, into a rigid absolutism that would be comical if it were not so consequential… Perhaps they’re just cynically trying to keep the economy in the doldrums through next year to hurt Obama’s chances of reelection. I worry that their fanaticism is sincere — that one of our major parties has gone completely off the rails. If so, things will get worse before they get better.
“Having Bush and Cheney reappear is a reminder to step back and look at what Obama is up against. You might want to cut him a little slack.’
JOE SCARBOROUGH, CO-HOST: Really?
ROBINSON: Well, look, you know, we get caught up in whether the speech is on Wednesday or Thursday, which properly we talk about because we're into the back and forth and the minutia of how things get done in Washington or don't get done in Washington and who is up and who is down in politics. But there is a larger context here, a horrific economic situation, an even worse fiscal situation, and a political situation in which one party is, the opposition party is determined to thwart, for ideological or political reasons, anything the president is trying to do. That's, you know, we need to remember that context, I think.
SCARBOROUGH: But Gene, isn't there also though a larger context that the United States citizens may have just elected a president that was not ready to run the most complex economy in the world? You're focusing on the Republicans, and yes, we all focus on the speech, but isn't the larger context not the speech or the opponent of the president but the president himself and whether he knows what to do in this time of crisis?
Indeed. As Scarborough said on Thursday's program in response to E.J. Dionne's silly column, Obama had two years of total control of Washington, D.C.
It's only been eight months since the Republicans took over Congress, but the Democrats still control the Senate and the White House.
At some point not only do the president and his Party have to take some responsibility for what's going on in the country, but also his fans in the media have to question whether Obama was and is qualified for the office he holds.
Not if you're a pol like Robinson:
ROBINSON: Well, this time of crisis. The president takes office, the financial system has collapsed and, in fact, we are on the precipice of something akin to a great depression. In fact, he averts the great depression, and the word stimulus has become a dirty word now, but in fact it does keep us from falling off the cliff. We now enter a sour and unsatisfactory recovery, and I put that in quotes because it doesn't feel like a recovery, but, in fact, the bleeding in terms of hundreds of thousands of jobs being lost every month and foreclosures on every block, the bleeding has been stanched. Now I, maybe somebody could have come in and done all that and also got the economy revved up and roaring, but I think it is more probable that this is a different kind of recession. And I wonder who could have done better.
[Laughter]
SCARBOROUGH: That’s it. Who could have done better?
Actually, at this point in time, the question isn't "Who could have done better?"
It really is "Who could have done worse?"
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Submitted by Pilgrim1949 on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 1:21pm.
Ozymandias-on-the-Potomac thought he was running for the office of "Present" instead of "President", as in, chief executive of an overwhelming percentage of the world's economy.
Easy mistake to make, of course, when your previous career was spent as a community (dis)organizer, calculating position-seeker and perpetual campaigner.
A pet rock could have done better...
"Ye canne change the laws of physics....." but some politicians believe that with the right legislation you can pretend they don't really apply to your own pet projects...
who could've done better
Submitted by jimtrees on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 9:29pm.
Just about anybody at this point.
Boy, Robinson sure goes
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 1:25pm.
Boy, Robinson sure goes around the mulberry bush when he 'answers' a question.................I guess most of these guys are incapable of speaking plainly or directly.
'Unqualified' is only one, of MANY, adjectives that I would use to describe Boy Blunder............
Something Akin to.....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 3:27pm.
circling the quick-sand before stepping in.
My thoughts on our inept President
Submitted by tincan53 on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 1:30pm.
Here are my thoughts on Barack Husein Obama, mm-mmm- mmm.
1. He is extremely arrogant and believes he is the true messiah.
2. He has absolutely no experience in a leadership role. He has never managed even a small business let alone a city or even a state. What makes him or anyone for that matter think he could lead a country?
3. He is supposed to be a very intelligent man and a Constitutional scholar. However, what he attempted Wednesday in trying to give a speech to a joint session of Congress on the day the legislature returns from vacation shows his ignorance of the Constitution and the requirements and protocol between the Legislative and Executive branches of our government.
4. Finally, he has shown to me that he has no work ethic at all. It is a sad day in America when the President of the United States decides to play golf when 25 million Americans are out of work. It's better to slice a couple of strokes off his game than to slice the unemployment rate.
A Piece Of Work!
Submitted by miss911ninja on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 2:37pm.
All true, and I might add that his playing golf while America melts down is just one example of his low "social I.Q."
Another example would be his stating that the Cambridge, MA police "acted stupidly." He should have been aware of how important it was to be PERCEIVED as being unbiased against the police, even though he WAS. So I think his comment also revealed a problem with impulse control. He spoke impulsively, while at the same time admitting that he didn't know all the facts. This also indicated that he was prone to knee-jerk reactions instead of rational, analytical thought.
WHAT A PIECE OF WORK!
Well, Ninjie............as
Submitted by killa37 on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 7:22pm.
Well, Ninjie............as you know, the ONLY time that Boy BlahBlah ever comes CLOSE to saying what he really thinks is when he is off-teleprompter, or off-speech, or off-earpiece............because he's incapable of being smooth and eloquent 'off the cuff', and his insidious idealology takes precedence over his brain. In fact , those are the only times that I find Boy Blunder to be interesting, because we get a little view into what he REALLY thinks,and how he REALLY is - under all the hype and orchestration.
What the hell is wrong with this nation....
Submitted by Jarhead68 on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 1:44pm.
I (pardon the use of first-person, I get it from listening to too much Obumble-TV) KNEW, as did millions of other folks, in early 2008 that Barack Hussein Obama was unqualified by experience to hold the highest office in the land. If I knew, certainly the so-called "intelligentsia" knew, as well. Liberals claim to have superior intellect, yet they voted for an empty suit. Sarah Palin, on the other hand, has had experience running a city and a state, yet the media called her "inexperienced." I'm really getting the impression that I (sorry again) may be smarter than ANYONE in the mainstream media and at least 60% of the voters. You had to have been love-struck to vote for that moron. (Of course, I did hold my nose as I voted for McCain, the worst GOP pick since Bob Dole.)
You know that some MOSs in
Submitted by ricklail on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 3:28pm.
You know that some MOSs in the military offer little schooling and a lot of OJT. Well they do in the Army at least. Most of those OJTers, don't have a better word for it but cooks come to mind an example, get better at their jobs over time. Now in many cases if they didn't get better then they were handed an M-16 and made a grunt. Obama was an OJTer and didn't get better over time. Trouble with him there is not were to put him but out of office, he can't do anything else.
Absolutely!!!!!!!
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 9:04pm.
There is no “school” for the office of President - there is only the constant and sustained ability to lead as evidenced by superior performance in any chosen endeavor. Voting present or just being a professional politician doesn’t cut it!
A personal note to you Rick: I have not been able to spend a lot of time here at NB recently, but I did get the chance to review your comments concerning “Hurricane Irene” and your special thread on the forum. Thank you for reporting on the events from the from the ground and God Bless your efforts to keep the rest of us informed. I’m glad things worked out well for you (i.e.: you’re still here). Thanks again!
- Grump :o)
JR
Submitted by ProudAmerican58 on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 3:26pm.
I think YOU are right- on! I felt the very same way and am still scratching my head over those who just don't get that not only were we simply "not into him" but we were also very much "on to him."
"What the hell is wrong with this nation...."
Submitted by Dave. on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 6:58pm.
Gubbermint ejumicashion.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
I couldn't bring myself to
Submitted by jerseydevel on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 9:43pm.
I couldn't bring myself to vote for Mc Cain because of hatchet job McLaim-Feingold did on the First Amendment. Of course I would have requested the hatchet to my arm had I had any impulse to punch the chad for this utter numbnut. When we finally heard he actually won, the bile rose and I choked. It's now several years later and I'm still short of breath from the ongoing treasonous malfeasance.
Jarhead,
Submitted by packman on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 8:50am.
you weren't the only one holding his nose at the voting booth! Let's hope we have a better choice in 2012.
"...Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread..." ~Thomas Jefferson
good golly
Submitted by kata on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 1:50pm.
here we have a pioneer in porcine aviation seen first hand. The problem is that Joe, as always, manages to give up the rational ground he claws his way forward on in short order. I think the follow up questions "How did that happen? and What do we, as "responsible journalists" do about it?" are just too hard to face.
I blame it on Congress.
Submitted by E.S.Blofeld on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 2:07pm.
They hold the purse strings. Decades of bumbling idiots glad handing ...they are to blame. Set term limits and get rid of the professional pol. As for the Presidency...it doesn't matter who's swimming in this cess pool of an economy, it sux. I would love to see what happens after Obama is booted. If the next GOP office holder finds himself or herself in poor economy, will he/she blame it on the previous admin just like Obammy is doing now?
Ernst
"Isn't it pretty to think that way?"-EH
I agree that congress is the
Submitted by amyshulk on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 5:13am.
I agree that congress is the true culprit, but it's easier to blame/praise the Pres. I guess.
The parties undermine each other, so it's impossible to truly know who is right - the D's say the stimulus wasn't big enough and that's why we have such an anemic economy, while the R's aver shrinking the gov't., reducing taxes and regulations, would be the cure.
All I know is what I experienced. The gov't. employees were mere observers of the recession the rest of us went through, and now it's their turn to take it on the chin.
I get the logic - they saved them so the whole economy wouldn't go into a death spiral - *somebody* had to buy Starbucks, high end clothing, accessories, GM cars,etc. to keep the employees of those businesses able to pay their house payments, even if they all had to cut out the perks!!!
My hope is that enough of the people who observed the kid glove treatment the gov't. employees got - at their expense - causes people to either vote R or stay home. They said doom, doom, doom, the end is coming!!! Back in the 70's, now 40 years later, they want us to believe that *this* time it's really real? Then step up, put up, or shut up!!!
Ronald Reagan
Beginning to look like Christmas - la de la la la
Submitted by Gary Hall on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 2:22pm.
Shelby Steele, a senior fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution, wrote back in 2007, a book titled, "A Bound Man." The sub-title of the book was, "Why we are so excited about Obama and why he can't win." OK well, at the time Obama was trialing Hillary Clinton. What's more interesting is how Shelby Steele, and many others now, have gone from "Why we are so excited about Obama," to (closing paragraphs):
Here's hoping that Mika reads it tonight, and she and Scarborough have Eugene Robinson back on tomorrow's show.
Here's Steel's column: Obama and the Burden of Exceptionalism
(;~> gary
speech is on Wednesday or Thursday,
Submitted by CarlosS on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 2:50pm.
Why didn't the MSM just run re-runs of Obama's 2010 Labor day "Jobs" speech? They could've run them all week..., maybe have a weekend marathon on some channel.
What the hey?
Submitted by Blonde on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 3:41pm.
He could just ask the Queen to borrow back the iPod he gave her, which was chock full of his speeches.
Then ask Steve Jobs for a new iPod, and do show and tell next week. That would be novel at least.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
No Way Carlos....
Submitted by bigdaddy on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 12:57am.
....the prison shows on the weekend are their highest rating shows of the week.
Our National Hug
Submitted by Galvanic on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 2:51pm.
In 2008, the majority of voters became enamored with the idea of a first black American President and that overrode all the other questions about experience and even ideology. He was outstanding in his ability to market himself in such a way that most never stopped to ponder whether he even had a record of accomplishments. Afterall, he was postulated to be the most intelligent President EVER.
And when he was elected, the nation gave itself a great, big, self-satisfying hug. We were so proud of ourselves that some folks even suggested carving his likeness on Mt. Rushmore. And the world patted us on the head by awarding Obama a Nobel Peace Prize, as if he were some sort of Mandela-esque leader of a human rights struggle.
That hug didn't last as long as 2010. There are a few who still hold out hope that the 'real Obama' will image, but this is the real Obama.
It sure is, unfortunately...And those of us...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 3:17pm.
who knew from the beginning of his campaign what an empty suit incompetent he truly was must all be geniuses, because isn't it amazing how, slowly but surely, the rest of the world appears to finally be waking up to the reality of what and who Obama really is? We all knew this long before this fool was sworn in...We were asking the hard questions, and warning about him before he was ever elected, and yet much of the rest of the country and most of the media continued merrily along, apparently intentionally blind and deaf to the blaring flashing warning lights and sirens that we on the right were trying in vain to make them all stop for a moment to see and hear. It was all to no avail however, and now, 2 and a half years later, we are all suffering as a result. If nothing else good comes of Obama's time in office (and I can't imagine what that might be) I'm hoping that it will be this...That the voters of this country will never again allow themselves to be sold such a bogus, manufactured candidate ever again...There is just nothing there with Obama, there never was, and hopefully, people have learned that fact the hard way and will never make a mistake like him again.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Truer words, PS...
Submitted by ProudAmerican58 on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 3:49pm.
While it may be too much to ask that we learn "never" to make such a mistake again (Ann Coulter often says it takes the occasional election of a Liberal Democrat to remember they should NEVER be allowed to lead) one can certainly pray we have learned enough not to make that same mistake in 2012.
ProudAmerican...Right you are...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 4:36pm.
This country has had bad presidents before, and unfortunately, we will have them again in the future...But in my lifetime certainly (I'm 50), Barack Obama takes the top spot for the worst president, hands down (he even beats the trainwreck that was Carter), and I think it's safe to say that he is in the top 4 or 5 of the worst presidents in our history. I am not a presidential historian, but I do love American history, and knowing what I know, Obama has to be one of the most, if not the most ill prepared, unqualified people we've ever elected president.
It is my feeling that many if not most Americans right now, have largely begun to give up on Obama...They are coming to conclusion that he is clueless, which he is, and are becoming numb to his continuous claims that he has the answers to the country's problems, he knows what to do, all evidence to the contrary. I think people are starting to move past him, and are increasingly looking to the election in '12 in the hopes that that will give them the opportunity to elect someone else who they hope will have the answers to fix the country's problems. I love Ann Coulter's contention that, as you said, it takes the occasional election of a Liberal Democrat to remind people that they should NEVER be allowed to lead...Truer words have never been spoken, as the election of Obama has made painfully clear.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
I agree, PS
Submitted by Galvanic on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 4:37pm.
The blame isn't all Obama's -- we had his resume. He couldn't have gotten to the Oval Office without American voters putting him there. The MSM decided not to fully investigate Obama's past or his associates for fear of derailing his candidacy; they relied primarily on two books about Obama that were written by --- (ta-da) Barack Obama.
I have some friends (several retired military) who are very smart and politically savvy people and yet they voted for Obama because they actually thought he could change Washington despite his having no record of ever having changed anything.
To that extent, We the People are to blame, and if we re-elect this man, it is ALL our fault.
I agree...The blame isn't all Obama's...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 4:45pm.
and that was part of my point...Too many allowed themselves to be lied to, and to be sold the bill of bs goods that was and is Obama...Despite what many of us were trying to bring to their attention, too many didn't listen...they didn't do their own homework...they didn't ask the hard questions...They allowed themselves to be led down the garden path by Obama and the complicit Obama loving media, lying, obfuscating and cheerleading for him all the way into the Oval Office.
Obama didn't get elected by himself...He had lots of help, and a huge part of it was an ignorant and uninformed electorate who were far too willing to wear their rose colored glasses, which blinded them to the truth about who and what they elected.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
I'm sure
Submitted by Redrowan2000 on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 7:17pm.
I'm pretty dam sure he must change his socks at least once a week , well I hope.
Don't let the bastards grind you down."
Can Eugene Robinson Be Serious?
Submitted by Avitar on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 3:02pm.
We all knew after taking over the House and Senate the Democrats started rolling over the economy to make George W, Bush look bad. When the Democrats captured the Whitehouse we expected them to stop doing things that were hurting the economy. They did not stop. They owed their special interests too much to stop hurting the ecomomy.
Their must be Democrats who understand economics but they are not in control of the DNC and it doesn't look like they will get in control any time soon.
I hate to break the news to you Avatar, but
Submitted by djwolf12 on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 1:03am.
There are NO Democrats that are willing to stand up and break ranks with this corrupt regime. Sorry, but it us the truth.
Obama and his apologist Gene Robinson have spoken.
Submitted by Thalpy on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 4:41pm.
The comments from Robinson were complete mumbo jumbo. Gabby Johnson couldn't have said it better.
Wow Joe. mika finally cut
Submitted by jerseydevel on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 6:01pm.
Wow Joe. mika finally cut you off? That might explain your attempt to reclaim a pair...
"Did Voters Elect An Unqualified President?"
Submitted by Dave. on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 7:32pm.
Do bears sh*t in the woods?
Is a pig's arse pork?
Is the Pope Catholic?
Is the sky blue?
Is grass (usually) green?
Do pigs wallow in the mud?
Is fire hot?
Is it cold at the North Pole?
Do (most) birds fly?
Is water wet?
Do planes fly?
Do boats (usually) float?
Does rain fall?
Does glue stick?
Does beer fizz?
Do leaves eventually fall?
Does Coca-Cola make you burp?
Are habaneros hot?
Is Prissy Tingles a dumb@ss?
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Awesome
Submitted by jerseydevel on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 9:26pm.
I recall the scene from Robocop, I think it was the actor that went on to play Red in "That 70s Show" he had just finished firing some RPG (or similar item) and with gusto he says, "I LIKE IT!"
"Is prissy tingles a
Submitted by jerseydevel on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 9:29pm.
"Is prissy tingles a dumb@ss". Bwahhh-Ha-Ha!!! Righteous...
I'm more offended at Morning Shmoe demonizing and insulting
Submitted by djwolf12 on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 8:55pm.
American Economy as Complex. COMPLEX? What is so Complex about the American Economy? You shrink the size of Government, you lower the tax rates of ALL Americans, Businesses make profit, expand and hire people which creates more revenue, and everyone is happy. Only a self-hating, Bill Clinton ass kissing RINO like Morning Shmoe would sink this low.
djwolf...
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 9:12pm.
Apparently you are unaware that Scarborough is a small government, reduced federal spending, fiscal conservative. I guess you don't watch the show, huh?
Jer
No Jer,
Submitted by djwolf12 on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 9:24pm.
I watch this show EVERY MORNING, and the only reason is because it gets my blood pressure cooking to the point that it prepares me to deal with the idiots that I deal with every single day at my job. This douche is a fraud and anyone that thinks he is exactly what you classified him as is as dumb as his sidekick Bubbles..
So he is lying when he claims to be a fiscal conservative?
Submitted by Jer on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 10:05pm.
And is in fact an advocate of big government, massive spending, and steep deficits? I guess that settles it, then. BTW, when did his philosophy change?...because his voting record was more in line with his claims, not yours.
Jer
You can no more disprove the wolfs' statements, Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 11:49pm.
than you can prove your own, reference the Scab.
It is amazing how you can brag about Scarborough this, and Scarborough that, because you follow his show so faithfully; but somehow don't notice his RINO proclivities, and his liberal leanings, attitudes, and ass kissing.
But then, as you defend most liberals and Democrats, it follows that the Scab fits the parameters that you so fervently favor.
MD
What a silly remark, Matthew....
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 12:08am.
There are dozens of instances where Scarborough has stated his belief in small government fiscal conservatism. There are none where he has advocated massive spending/big government. wolf's only defense: He's lying. Again, even though Scarborough's voting record backs up his assertions as well as his frequent criticisms of both Bush's and Obama's overspending. wolf's counter argument: He's lying.
Jer
A silly remark, indeed, Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 12:31am.
compared to your in-depth, never ending, obsequious paeans to the Scab.
Amazing, again, that as one trained in the profession of law, that you do not see the flim-flam flip-flop BS the Scabster rotates his way through on a regular basis.
Kudos to you for your consistency - but it is most obvious that many on these threads disagree with you and see Joe Scarborough as a far different political critter than you paint him to be.
MD
You're entitled to your opinion, Matthew...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 1:25am.
but since you never watch the show, it carries very little weight.
wolf's does, but his "it's bullshit" argument isn't very persuasive.
Jer
As are you, Jer,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 2:18am.
speaking of entitlements to opinions.
As an ultra-conservative, of course, I pretty much rate anything related to a liberal's opinion as being about as reliable as a pile of dinosaur droppings; that is, as dependable for preparing for the future as would be interpreting coprolite findings by smell as a way of charting a decent course forward.
I base my opinion on Obama's liberal approach to problem solving; and his funky-butt administration's frighteningly fiendish forays in attempting to formulate a way out of the foolish federal financial and economic Hell they have exacerbated.
Enormously.
Your desire to label the odor of Scarborough's bullshit as being somehow comparable to the aroma of roses is nothing more than one fence straddler admiring and touting the ability of a fellow BS artist.
MD
As I said before: Morning Shmoe = Fraud
Submitted by djwolf12 on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 12:46am.
The only reason this douche was brought to M.S.S.R. (MSNBC) was to be the 9pm counter the successful conservative to Sean Hannity. Hence = Failure. People weren't buying his bullsh*t then, and they aren't buying it now.
Ok Jer,
Submitted by djwolf12 on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 4:28pm.
then why does he spend most of his time trashing other fiscal conservatives as unelectable? Why? Because they believe in Creationism and go to Church? Because they do not accept the leftist's religion of global warming? Because they actually may think that Rush Limbaugh is right? Tell Me Jer, since you are so interested in suggesting that just because someone may have a negative impression of these idiots on TV, you have to accuse them of not watching the show at all? You ignore the points we say and here you come in, opening your yapper and saying we don't watch the show. PLLLLLEEEEEAAAASSSSEEEE. I have watched this phony Scarborough since he was on at 9pm (you know, right after Phil Donohue horrific program was cancelled at 9pm on MSNBC way back in 2003 and since I remember that, you accuse me of not watching Joe Doucheborough) and he was thought to be the counter-Sean Hannity to bring ratings. He failed in primetime on MSNBC because people don't believe him, his principles, and what the hell he stands for. You think you are being devil's advocate on this website, but you are really being a schmuck that doesn't know your ass from your face and I am calling you out on it.
dwolf...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 5:50pm.
Scarborough is not criticizing their fiscal conservatism. He's questioning their electability, or some other policy position or personal matter unrelated to economic philosophy. If you drum every conservative pundit or politician out of the ranks of authentic conservatism because he or she may have expressed skepticism about a fiscal conservative for whatever reason, the numbers would be reduced considerably--and, in addition to Scarborough, would include Krauthammer, Will, Rove, Ailes and others.
Jer
Jer
Submitted by djwolf12 on Sun, 09/04/2011 - 1:13am.
If Joe Scarborough had his way, he would pick Jon Huntsman as his candidate because in his world, he is the safe (moderate) pick, and conservatism is on its way back to the norm, and he doesn't like it. Jon Huntsman, mark my words, WILL NEVER BE THE NOMINEE for President of the USA, EVER! Conservatism in our nominees means historic electoral landslide against their opponent. Gerald Ford & Nelson Rockefeller (moderates) were inherited the presidency and VP slots from Nixon (moderate) that wouldn't survive the impeachment from Congress about Watergate, and were awful. George H.W. Bush was a Moderate and lasted 1 term. John McCain (moderate) would have been a terrible president because his policies are too moderate. People like Scarborough should just get the hell out of our party because they screw up elections. Did anyone in the Democrat party criticize "The One" for being too radical left, even with his shady associations? No because they only use the race card to shush out any dissent among the rank and file. Ronald Reagan is, and will always be one of the greatest conservative presidents in the history of this country because he told it like it is, stood his ground, and people liked and respected that. Moderates never understood that, and are seething jealous that they cannot receive the praise like conservatives. We are in this to win it, not to lose it. People like Scarborough and McCain cling to Conservatism when they are running for something, and we conservatives cringe when they say that because we know THEY ARE NOT!
Jer
Submitted by Redrowan2000 on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 7:11pm.
You make statements without substantiating them could you please show me Scarboroughs record? I asked you the last go round to validate your statements and you came up short. Could you please come through this time for us?
"Don't let the bastards grind you down."
Redrowan...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 7:29pm.
I regret you feel that way, Redrowan. There are those who do a considerable amount of sourcing--the Vet, Gary Hall, dscott, stratman, Rush Fan, Denny Crane, Par For The Course, to name a few--but I'm willing to bet I'm in the top 10% when it comes to linking authority to back up my claims.
That said, I'm sure there have been times when my corroboration was inadequate and if you'll be kind enough to point to the "last go round" I'll attempt to satisfy your concerns.
As far as Scarborough, are you referring to his voting record or to representations he has made on Morning Joe with respect to his views on the size of government and federal spending?
Jer
Thanks Jer for the sourcing comment. Personally, I have some
Submitted by Rush Fan on Tue, 09/06/2011 - 5:38pm.
difficulty ascertaining where Scarborough really stands on issues. When a host of a program on a Progressive network, regardless of their personal opinions, depends on the good graces of management for employment and the accompanying hefty paycheck, the aforementioned host is unlikely to stray too far from the primary network agenda: Bad Republicans and Conservatives, Good Democrats, Progressives, Socialists, RINOs and perhaps Communists. .
For example, I have noticed that former CNN journalists Ed Henry and John Roberts seem to me to be more fair and balanced now that they are away from Liberal CNN and working for Fox News. Perhaps my perception is based on my bias as a Fox News fan.
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regards,
RF
Hmm...I guess this is what you had in mind, Redrowan...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 7:43pm.
Apology accepted. Yes! I
Submitted by Redrowan2000 on Mon, 07/11/2011 - 7:10pm.
Apology accepted.
Yes! I would like to see all of your links "slamming” these “democrats”? I would also like to see the links of you defending these vile and reprehensible democrats. Hey if Olbermann, Matthews, Maher ,Shultz, Malloy, and Helen Thomas are your Democrats that you slam then maybe for a mental giant like you , you can figure out for yourself without showing up here that these are your basic American haters.
Hey everyone is entitled to a zealous defense and you are their boy . But I may be wrong based on the links you provide.
Because you call a kettle black doesn’t somehow make you a genius or objective. Lets see both sides of the links.
So lets go with the facts Jer show both the slamming and the defending and if not than you can heed my advice taken from a great Republican:
"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt..".
'Don't let the bastards grind you down."
Red
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Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/07/09/bill-maher-lies-ab...
Obviously, I didn't even respond to the post. But this will take some time, even though the many occasions I slammed them prior to the site redesign have been eradicated along with all archived comments.
Jer
In the interest of time, Redrowan...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 9:08pm.
I'll provide you summaries of my criticisms of various liberals and the date of the post. If you still insist on links, I'll compile and post those later.
Bill Maher: 7/11/11 On the thread linked above, I called Maher's indictment of the Republican party "a sickening, despicable lie. And it disgusts me that this towering asshole continues to spew such filth."
Helen Thomas: 3/18/11 "Helen...ceased being relevant last century. Now she is notable only for her sick and shameful anti-Semitic, anti-Israel slanders"
Ed Schultz: 5/25/11 "Ed should not just be suspended but instead sidelined--permanently. His comments were absolutely indefensible"
Pelosi and Reid 11/02/10 "I've said it before and I'll say it again. Pelosi [a far left/liberal] was a miserable choice for House leader...As for Harry Reid, well...he's just a feckless buffoon." 7/9/11 I've been calling for Pelosi and Reid's ouster from leadership positions for nearly three years now due to chronic ineptitude."
Katie Couric: 11/22/10 [Re her ridiculous questions to Palin] "The woman should be released from her anchor--NOW!"
Mike Malloy: 10/13/10 "I don't understand why this demented nonentity is given free publicity." 2/27/11 "Liberals don't even bother with this sick freak" 11/11/10 referred to Malloy as a "maniac...engaging in his customary unhinged ravings..."
Michael Moore: 5/6/11 "Before I'm charged with endorsing Moore through silence, let me hasten to add 'amen' to the idiot part"
Keith Olbermann: 11/6/10 "If you had been paying any attention for the past three years, you would know...that I don't give a ratzass about what happens to Keith Olbermann."
Miscellaneous...4/16/11 Backed Governor Walker against the union 1/1011 Acknowledged [once again] that the MSM tilts left 4/5/11 Recommended that Brit Hume, Bret Baier or Chris Wallace replace Couric 6/26/11 Repeated my criticism of Obama's knee jerk response to Cambridge police incident, just as I have criticized his clinging to guns and religion comment, his attacks on Fox News, and a number of other points of disagreement with the president
So, how am I doing Red? BTW, any examples of your criticizing conservative pundits?
Jer
Nope
Submitted by Redrowan2000 on Sun, 09/04/2011 - 9:26am.
Just wanted too see if you were silly enough to jump through the hoops. 2 things that we can always count on with you. Persistency and being wrong.
"Don't let the bastards grind you down."
Interesting concepts of "silliness" and "wrong", Red....
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 09/04/2011 - 1:46pm.
Since you are batting a big fat zero so far, and your nonsensical claims have provided you a full scholarship to clown school. But those are the consequences of having your presumptions thoroughly demolished.
Jer
Jer,
Submitted by Redrowan2000 on Sun, 09/04/2011 - 9:08pm.
You mean batting around a big fat zero. I wasn't the clown jumping through the hoops. Like I said Jer "Persistent and always wrong. In your case the quote says it all about your ideology "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
fits you to a tee. By the way could you research that quote for me and give me an analysis with annotation and bibliography?
"Don't let the bastards grind you down."
My pleasure, Red...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 09/04/2011 - 9:34pm.
One of my favorite quotes by Ralph Waldo Emerson from his essay "Self-Reliance" written in 1841. The following website contains several insightful comments and interpretive analyses regarding the underlying meaning and intent of Emerson's words.
By the way, you prove once again your penchant for making judgments based on stereotypical presumptions rather than objective and observable evidence; and reveals, if not the precise dimensions of your mind, clearly its limitaions.
Jer
My Pleasure Jer
Submitted by Redrowan2000 on Sun, 09/04/2011 - 10:06pm.
"you prove once again your penchant for making judgments based on stereotypical presumptions rather than objective and observable evidence; '
Seems to me you are the one always making the judgements and never backing it up except with nastiness and pedantry when your point is disproved again and again and again. But you pass yourself off as a lawyer and I guess thats just in your nature. You know the old joke about why the sharks swam away from the lawyer rather than attacking him? Professional courtesy.
"Don't let the bastards grind you down."
Well eugene ... you better watch the ...
Submitted by jmigyanka@msn.com on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 8:56pm.
...................Planet of the Apes. Just line up behind the obama administration and the msm and you will see the future under your community agitater. What a disaster! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063442
Planet of the Apes (1968) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063442/
Take vaca more often Joe!!!
Submitted by amyshulk on Fri, 09/02/2011 - 10:15pm.
Take vaca more often Joe!!!
Ronald Reagan
Present Administration
Submitted by jacket06 on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 6:03am.
Let's compare the present occupant of the Oval Office to our National Passtime - Baseball:
The Manager of the team does not pitch, he does not run the bases, neither does he bat, he just sits in the dugout and plans the strategy of each game. If the team does poorly; if the players don't hit sufficiently to win; if the pitchers don't throw effectively; if the runners are too slow of foot; in effect, if he does not WIN, who ALWAYS gets fired - not traded, not sent down to the minors to gain more experience - HE GETS FIRED!! We must do the same in 2012 to our" "Manager in Chief"!
Did Voters Elect An Unqualified President?
Submitted by packman on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 8:51am.
Can I hear a "Hell Yes!?"
"...Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread..." ~Thomas Jefferson
Who could of done Better
Submitted by donabernathy on Sat, 09/03/2011 - 12:50pm.
Bwahahahahahahaha
Take Ya Pick
http://www.davidstuff.com/opinion/democrats.htm
roflmmfao
Scarborough and Mika interviewed Dick Cheney in studio
Submitted by Rush Fan on Sun, 09/04/2011 - 12:41am.
Thursday morning, Sept. 1 on Morning Joe. It was a very informative interview. Mr. Cheney was asked a variety of issues, from Colin Powell's characterization in Cheney's book to the decision to go into Iraq. Here is the VIDEO of the interview.