Gore: Scientists Wouldn't Lie for Money to Advance Global Warming Theory - But Skeptics Would
Nobel laureate Al Gore claimed on Friday that scientists involved in advancing the theory of global warming wouldn't do it just for the money.
Without recognizing the hypocrisy, he also told FearLess Cottage consumer advocate Alex Bogusky that scientists espousing a skeptical view of his money-making theory are exclusively doing so for their own financial benefit (video follows with transcript and commentary):
ALEX BOGUSKY, CONSUMER ADVOCATE, FEARLESS COTTAGE: Well, they also funded and created some think tanks that would release reports, and there were scientists that worked there, but they were funded by the tobacco industry.
AL GORE: Yeah, yeah.
BOGUSKY: And some of those are, are now, have gone to work for oil and gas, or oil and coal.
GORE: What a lot of people don’t realize, this is so astonishing, some of the same people…
BOGUSKY: Yeah.
GORE: …who took money from the tobacco companies to put out lies about the science of smoking and health are now taking money from the coal and oil companies to put out lies about the science of global warming.
BOGUSKY: Yeah.
GORE: And those lies in this new communications environment gain a much larger audience on a regular basis than what the real scientists are actually saying.
BOGUSKY: Well, and, and, and you talk about the special interests, but there’s more and more special interest in government.
GORE: Yeah.
BOGUSKY: At least that’s, you know, my analysis.
GORE: For sure.
For sure? Was Gore actually agreeing that there’s more special interests in government?
I think Bogusky caught him off-guard with that, and the Nobel laureate didn’t realize what he was saying “for sure” to.
But in this instance, he was right. As Sen. Jim Inhofe's (R-Ok.) former communications director Marc Morano reported in 2007:
Newsweek reporter Eve Conant was given the documentation showing that proponents of man-made global warming have been funded to the tune of $50 BILLION in the last decade or so, but the Magazine chose instead to focus on how skeptics have reportedly received a paltry $19 MILLION from ExxonMobil over the last two decades.
Two years later, the Science and Public Policy Institute updated and confirmed these numbers:
The US government has spent over $79 billion since 1989 on policies related to climate change, including science and technology research, administration, education campaigns, foreign aid, and tax breaks. [...]
Meanwhile in a distracting sideshow, Exxon-Mobil Corp is repeatedly attacked for paying a grand total of $23 million to skeptics—less than a thousandth of what the US government has put in.
Despite the overwhelming majority of funds concerning this matter going to climate alarmists, Gore claimed it's skeptics that are willing to lie for money.
Moments later, he ironically said the folks on his side would never do this:
BOGUSKY: Governor Perry suggests that scientists have gotten together to foil the American public, or the global public.
GORE: Yeah.
BOGUSKY: There aren’t even movie scripts like that, where every, it’s, it’s, it’s, it seems difficult for me to understand how people would believe that. Yet there are actual incidents - tobacco being the most recent - of industries that have set out to continue to perpetrate a lie.
GORE: Yeah.
BOGUSKY: Scientists in general don’t really like to agree. That’s not what science does. Right?
GORE: Right, right, right. Yeah, and, and, and sometimes contrarians in science have become famous by overturning an accepted view.
BOGUSKY: That’s how you get reputations.
GORE: Yeah, there’s a natural respect for that impulse, absolutely.
Okay, so there are incidents when industries "have set out to continue to perpetrate a lie." But Bogusky doesn't consider that since Gore has huge investments in companies that benefit from global warming activism, he himself might be less than honest with his assertions.
As is typical, the motivation of liberals is never questioned.
As for the Nobel laureate, he admitted a "natural respect" for "contrarians in science [who] have become famous by overturning an accepted view."
But not when they go against his view:
GORE: But this is different. This is an organized effort to attack the reputation of the scientific community as a whole, to attack their integrity, and to slander them with the lie that they are making up the science in order to make money. Look, first of all, these scientists don’t make a lot of money. They’re comfortable, and as they should be, but they don’t make a lot of money. That’s not their motivation for doing what they do.
So, through July 2009, there was almost 3500 times more money spent by the U.S. government to spread global warming alarmism than what ExxonMobil dished out to fight it.
Yet, all those receiving funds to advance the theory are saints and all those on the other side are corrupt liars.
Even more hypocritical, in virtually the same breath, Gore said it's the skeptics attacking the "reputation of the scientific community," attacking "their integrity," and slandering them "with the lie that they are making up the science in order to make money."
The only attacks and slander going on here is what Gore and his followers regularly do against anyone that dares to disagree with this still unproven theory.
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ManBearPig
Submitted by HockeyKid on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 7:43pm.
has lost. I can't wait until victims of his global scam start suing his backside off.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
Ha ha ha ha...doesn't this
Submitted by rbosque on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 7:51pm.
Ha ha ha ha...doesn't this fool stand to gain from the carbon-credits thing?
Wow.
Every picture I see of this
Submitted by HelenS on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 7:55pm.
Every picture I see of this bloated has-been looks like he's choking on a chicken bone or something.
Me - "The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years - the cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil."
Nah, I am waiting for the large stream of
Submitted by djwolf12 on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 11:36am.
excrement to begin flowing out of his mouth.
If I'm not mistaken, wolf,
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 3:07pm.
If I'm not mistaken, wolf, that's been going on for as long as I've known who ALGORE is!!!!
This is a great article but
Submitted by Maestroh on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 8:00pm.
This is a great article but how did the author miss the chutzpah of Gore bringing up tobacco when HE took $ from them long after Surgeon General warnings and his sister's death. Also keep in mind this is the same guy who said technicalities should not invalidate ballots but then wanted military absentee ballots thrown out due to technicalities.
Not fast enough
Submitted by d_mnyankee84 on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 1:56pm.
I wasn't fast enough! Beyond what OwlGore GLADLY accepted from the evil tobacco lobby, I wonder how much OwlGore, Sr took from the same lobby. Those funds that paid for OwlGore, Jr's education.....
Manbearpig Knows That Scientists Who Want To Get Paid Lie
Submitted by Avitar on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 8:05pm.
I wonder if he looses money if his carbon credits are not bought. Being a Scientist or an engineer is not the best way to use your intelligence if you want the status of being paid well. The "scientists" who endorsed global warming were not real hard scientists either. Many of them are "social scientists"
Great photo of the
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 8:12pm.
Great photo of the psuedo-alpha male.................this delusional clown COMES from Washington D.C., and special interests, and tobacco, and 'scientific' scams, as well as 'inventing the internet' and coming very close to being our President (jeez.....and now who thought that Bush was so bad???)...........and he's done quite well for himself - with his air-conditioned limos and private jets and brand new estate in Santa Barbara.............I think that only the die-hard whackjobs can take ALGORE seriously anymore, and I'm not sure how many people actually took him seriously to begin with.
I'm a scientist
Submitted by CradleofIdiocy on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 8:16pm.
I'm an atmospheric scientist, and I along with many thousands of other scientists say Al Gore is full of $h!t.
Every time I see that bloated windbag I get angry.
I don't know which is worse, if he actually believes the global warming garbage he talks about or if he knows it's bull and just lies to everyone about it.
Big Al ...
Submitted by Bodini on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 9:24pm.
... fails to mention all the global warming "scientists" (liars) that got caught with their pants on fire ... while working at Marxist institutes of learning and the socialists at NASA for one purpose. To ENRICH THEMSELVES and Al through a scam that screwed the world's capitalists and helped drive our greatest economies into the dirt!
HOPE (fat Al explodes) and CHANGE (Marxist Democrats on their a$$e$ in the streets in November 2012)!
CradleofIdiocy,
Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 9:27pm.
I think it's because Tipper has him by the financial short-hairs, and he needs the money.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
and I'm a skeptic
Submitted by buttercup815 on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 9:45pm.
I've never heard of a degree in "atmospheric science" before. Where did you get that? Your bio is a little slim. Also, I have been around a few scientists myself and their use of the english language is usually a lot more precise. But that's me being skeptical.
Hmmmmm
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 12:29pm.
Your post doesn't pass the smell test, buttercup.
Name call and run is a troll tactic. His/her usage of language was not only precise, it was grammatical.
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Sorry if my post doesn't pass the febreze test
Submitted by buttercup815 on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 1:09pm.
It's just that I've never heard of an "atmospheric scientist" before. I met some meteorlogist and some engineers..but never one of those. And so I wonder.
And all the real scientist I've ever met would never use such phrases as "bloated windbag I get angry", does that sound like real professional to you?
???????
Submitted by milootoole on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 1:12pm.
Don't atmospheric scientists work closely with aroma therapists???
LOL!
Submitted by buttercup815 on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 1:22pm.
But my stench doesn't go away that easily..You have to call in the hammer..you know who. ;)
careful buttercup
Submitted by botg on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 1:52pm.
i think your stench comes from the constant release of methane and in order to save the planet you and this greenhouse gas you seem to produce will need to be removed from the ecosystem by the believers of this fraud
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
Ok then, do not ever use the word "Roof"
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 1:19pm.
It's an Inclined Precipitation Deflector.
http://kids.earth.nasa.gov/archive/career/atmosphere.html
Google can be your friend.
You Didn't Build That.
Yep, my inclined
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 3:15pm.
Yep, my inclined precipitation deflector worked pretty well last night, but now I have to engage my air compressor in order to transfer precisely 35 psi of air into one of my circular synthetic rubber pneumatic rotating devices on my government-approved vehicle, because after purusing the perimeter of said device, and taking due and ample recompense of the situation, I have deduced that I may have a sllight, yet unwanted, release of oxygen into the earth's atmosphere..........and I don't want to be operating my vehicle on our highways in this undesirable and unsafe fashion.
And all the real scientist
Submitted by Jack Bauer on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 1:37pm.
And all the real scientist I've ever met would never use such phrases as "bloated windbag I get angry", does that sound like real professional to you?
Oh, I don't know...
From the East Anglian University emails:
From: Michael Mann.
To: Phil Jones and Gabi Hegerl (University of Edinburgh).
Date: Aug 10, 2004
"Phil and I are likely to have to respond to more crap criticisms from the idiots in the near future."
All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
PMs
Submitted by buttercup815 on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 1:53pm.
That looked like a personal email to me..not something posted on a public forum. I think there is a thread elsewhere on this site about the ethics of posting PM/email here?
So what does the word professional mean to you?
What does the word "professional" mean to you?*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 1:57pm.
Don't know about you buttercup, but to me, it means "sto' bought troll with numerous re-tread accounts.
Your sense of smell is as good as ever, Caj!
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 2:05pm.
Either that, or your ESP kicked in, because I was thinking that exact same thing when I replied to dear buttercup.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Actually no
Submitted by buttercup815 on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 2:16pm.
I aint no retread..just the real deal. I kinda like like it here..mind if I stick around.. Love the Vet and Balboa. Oh and Unsane too.
must be a trollist
Submitted by botg on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 2:31pm.
they all look alike
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
The legendary Vet AND
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 3:18pm.
The legendary Vet AND Balboa??? That just about covers the whole spectrum...........
~Crap
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 3:25pm.
I didn't make the list.
Sadly, I too was blackballed by buttercup...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 3:55pm.
which I attribute to my being only mildly fond of Unsane. However, if it's any consolation, I have loved you since you first arrived at this site: a 5'11'', green-eyed, rock-climbing, cookie-baking, garden-planting, liberal-stomping, War and Peace reading, head-turning, Renaissance mom of three.
Jer
~Love you too..
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 4:05pm.
..Premier Polemicist of NB's 'Leaning Left' division.
We'll just have to make our own Awesome Hotness of NB list, complete with titles.
:( i didn't make it
Submitted by botg on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 4:10pm.
:( i didn't make it either, but, then again, i'm just a 7th generation bot
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
Wow..........I"m really
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 4:18pm.
Wow..........I"m really intrigued by Jer's description of you, Wrath!!! I like your height too - if you had heels on,we'd be eye to eye!!
I think we should come up, as per your suggestion, with an NB Awesome Hotties list - a great combination of smarts, humor, wit, common sense, activities, as well as physical attributes............there's a lot of sharp cookies on here!!!
Now..........if 'buttercup' is a guy, I REALLY have to question his choice of names!!!
Darn it killa*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 4:52pm.
cajun almost met all of your criteria...sigh..., I'm only 5'2"...;-(
What's wrong with 5'2"??? My
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 4:56pm.
What's wrong with 5'2"??? My father used to sing that song a lot............I'd just have to do what Boy Barry wants me to do - which is 'bend over'!!! Hahahahaha!!!
Sorry killa..all of Bru's heels have been worn down to the nub
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 5:08pm.
from relentlessly grinding squealing libs beneath them. Her inventory of footwear is currently comprised entirely of flats.
Jer
~Blonde loans me her spares
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 5:33pm.
when necessary; I'm a lazy shopper.
:-p
Good evening Bru
Submitted by cocodrie on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 5:38pm.
I thought you needed heels for when you want to hit them between the eyes?
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
~Coco!
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 6:38pm.
Good point, I think I'll take botg's hint and invest in steel heels. LOL
well Bru
Submitted by botg on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 5:39pm.
i think if you search you may be able to find some stainless steel stillettos
stomping without wear
“The way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.” -- Chief Justice John Roberts
Good evening Bru
Submitted by cocodrie on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 5:41pm.
I thought you needed heels for when you want to hit them between the eyes?
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
You already know
Submitted by bkeyser on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 5:20pm.
Ted has a special place for you though, Bru.
~Even trolls love me..
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 5:35pm.
..or love to hate me. *sigh*
It's a heavy burden, but I try not to complain.
That's the classic definition
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 5:46pm.
That's the classic definition of a 'love/hate' relationship................they hate you,and you love it!!!
Sure you are, little sock puppet
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 3:28pm.
Deny it all you want.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
You are most certainly a re-tread
Submitted by Free Stinker on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 3:59pm.
I don't recall the name of one of our many retread trolls, but we had one who was making fun of Galt's Speach in Atlas Shrugged.
Buttercup can't seem to help commenting on Galt's Speach either. http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/cal-thomas/2011/04/15/go-see-atlas-shru...
Yes, it's circumstantial at best, but none of our retread trolls can avoid giving themselves away.
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
And just how did that work out?
Submitted by buttercup815 on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 8:32am.
How did the movie of Atlas Shrugged work out. I can't even find a copy of it on the internet..well a 'free' copy..I'm kinda cheap.
They broke even after running
Submitted by Free Stinker on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 9:20am.
They broke even after running in theatres. DVD release should be next, and they should be profitable after that. Pretty good considering they had virtually no advertising.
Funny how you retreads can't stop being yourselves.
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
delete by me
Submitted by mandrake on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 9:51am.
delete
Quod Erat Demonstrandum
Submitted by Jack Bauer on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 2:14pm.
You said NO "real scientist" YOU MET would use that type of language. Which implies that your observation is to be universally applied: i.e. no real scientist uses intemperate language
Given that you would be "meeting" them (or communicating with them) in a private capacity, which would be the time that they would be using language... I just proved you wrong. QED*.
Though I suppose you might be thinking that only scientists you personally meet are real.
*QED is Latin for gotcha
All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
An atmospheric scientist
Submitted by dennyf51 on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 1:58pm.
if you look it up on google basically supports your local weatherman. Your skepticism is skeptical. how simple was that to figure out. Atmospheric science, duh, the weather. And his language was fine.
Don't get around much, do you?
Submitted by UpNorth on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 4:32pm.
You really ought to do a least a little research, then you won't make an a$$ of yourself quite so easily.
"Where do you get that"? Just a quick list.
Not really
Submitted by buttercup815 on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 4:44pm.
But I am glad I managed to stur up a little discussion. Hope I brighten up your sunday..then my job is done.
You really didn't know, did you?
Submitted by UpNorth on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 5:13pm.
Zippers, I expected better from you.
Not really, you came through exactly as expected.
Why some of you global warming crazies have to lie
Submitted by gmaniac1 on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 12:35am.
to protect your lie is beyond me.
By the way, according to one government agency there is such a thing specifically labeled as an "atmospheric scientist." Approximately 34% of them work in the government! Geez if anyone should know that you'd think it would be a nanny state liberal.
http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos051.htm
Hmmm seems a heck of a lot more evident than your pseudo-science otherwise known as global smarming!
Funny. The Gore Family Fortune Was Made
Submitted by Comrade Jim on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 8:17pm.
On tobacco and oil. That was before Al moved on to the global warming scam.
I'm getting heat stroke following this
Submitted by CO2Maker on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 8:29pm.
A. Some disreputable scientists take money from special interests to skew the data and analyses in order to "prove" that capitalist-industrial global warming isn't happening? And that's wrong because these rogue ("contrarian") scientists are taking money to prove their paymasters' foregone conclusion that it's all a hysterical scam?
Yet at the same time
B. Zealous believers in the *theory* of anthropocentric global warming—which is as yet unproven and only theorized in computer models based on six trees in Siberia and three woebegone polar bears stranded on ice floes—have ginned up the green-eggs-and-moolah pressure to build giant windfarm bird blenders and to turn a food crop into fuel, and that has made Algorithm very wealthy. Now that's okay. No suspicious self-dealing there? Getting government grants to fund green projects, which Algorithm has a large financial stake in, isn't shady or unethical. It's not like rerouting the new Interstate across land the senator owns, right?
Remember, Algorithm's former boss got BJs in his office but AG himself couldn't even get a massage with benefits in Portland!
"Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Submitted by UpNorth on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 8:39pm.
right, right, right, and yeah", said the "man" who claimed that the center of the earth, which, incidentally, is only a "couple" of kilometers below the surface, was several "million degrees" in temperature.
Why anyone with a mind, gives this cretin any credibility, is a mystery to people with the ability to reason.
". . .sometimes contrarians in science
Submitted by rickbren on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 11:15pm.
. . . have become famous by overturning an accepted view." Like the view that the earth was the center of the universe AND the view that the earth was flat.
Let us not forget that this former presidential candidate claimed to have invented the internet. SO, he wouldn't lie about global warming.
Seriously, Algore, you need therapy in the worst way. I know it was tough when you lost your home state to W. But save yourself. Get some help!
Man Bear Pig
Submitted by spepper on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 8:44pm.
Man Bear Pig, at it again.....
There are more prostitutes per square mile on any major research
Submitted by drsamherman on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 9:12pm.
...university (posing as tenure-stream faculty) than in downtown Amsterdam. The Latin wording underneath any major research university seal is "Bring in the dough....or out you go!"
drsamherman
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 9:19pm.
Let me guess - you were passed up for tenure again?
(that was a joke)
No problemo!
Submitted by drsamherman on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 10:43pm.
I'm adjunct/clinical faculty at the full professor level. When you get to be my age, practice medicine and teach as many residents and fellows, they just give the full title to you to keep you happy. I don't cost 'em a dime, but I get to rant and rave at the tenure stream medical whackademics to remind them how out of touch they are.
When I went through my postgrad residencies (psych then neuro), I never had any intention of doing the academic medicine thing outside of the postgrad environment. Who wants all of that political claptrap? UGH...........
As a PhD in a technical field a ran
Submitted by Lipton on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 10:56pm.
running and screaming from academia, because of how corrupt and political it was. Of course there is some good research going on, it would be remiss to say that is not the case, but there is so much garbage that people use to get grants.
Plus, often the grants are funded by the government, which is the same government that is trying to put in place policies that have a vested interest in the outcome of the research.
I am not as colorful as the first commenter and wouldn't put myself in the same league, but I agree with him completely. I went into the business world because of the bottom line. If a product isn't successful, of value or do what you say it is going to do, it shows up in the bottom line. With crony capitalism there is some flaw in this thinking but I would much rather be around the pigs in the business world and the roll around in the mud with the arrogant academic elite.
Hello Lipton!
Submitted by drsamherman on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 11:08pm.
I am babysitting the neurologist beeper tonight and just came off a case. I am a right fit mood, so please excuse my bluntness. My patient was a kid who decided to try to suck the excess fentanyl off the patch his grandmother had just thrown in the garbage. If you ever have to deal with an opiate-overdosed 15-year old male with hormones blasting like a Jupiter-V rocket, please do yourself a favor and pass on the experience.
I have many medical colleagues who voluntarily gave up their practices to go into pharma, managed care, device, etc. I don't blame them a bit. I was a bit too attached to my office staff and patients when I still owned my solo practice, but when I joined this larger group practice, I was happy to get my life back.
Honestly, I commend any doctoral degree researcher who is willing to tell academic to bite it. Between the battles over credit for the most obscure publications, the political buttkissing to obtain tenure/promotions and the constant harangue of some politically ambitious but mentally unstable department chair or dean--FORGET IT. I was offered academic medical positions many times, including two years ago. Carl Lewis could not run fast enough to chain me down with that political nonsense.
As you allude, there are lots of risks in the private sector. I will gladly endure any of those risks for the ivory tower mentality any day of the week. Most of my academic medical colleagues see so few patients that they don't know what happens in the real world. How are they supposed to teach future physicians if they don't see any patients? Nobody in academic medicine has yet answered that question to my satisfaction.
Lipton
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 11:46pm.
I don't know - maybe I've just been lucky or maybe physics, for the most part (with one huge exception), just doesn't have to deal with politics when it comes to grants.
Don't get me wrong - I know that there are some folks who have issues with others and there are people who bump heads with others as far as personalities go which might affect things like the acceptance of papers into certain journals. But I can't honestly say I've ever really heard of problems as far as funding goes.
But then, if I put in for a grant to study viscoelastic spinodal decomposition, I'm guessing that isn't going to rub anyone the wrong way as far as politics go.
Who gets the money
Submitted by stanmo42 on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 9:20pm.
Warmers get big money for their lie. Where's the money in denying? Coal companies are bribing the public with their electric bills? Gore has lost it. Ha Ha Ha Ha
Waterworlder
Submitted by HardRightTurn on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 9:56pm.
Gore's libotomy has him believing that the movie "Waterworld" is a documentary.
To more fully comprehend the Left, one must read “Leftism As Psychopathy” by John Ray, M.A., Ph.D. Caution, it might scare you a little bit.
http://jonjayray.tripod.com/psycho.html
Hell, Al and Tipsey probably
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 10:59pm.
Hell, Al and Tipsey probably thought that 'Spinal Tap' was a documentary too.........and they had to go after all of those heavy rockers and their dirty lyrics and subliminal messages.
big head
Submitted by jimtrees on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 10:10pm.
They say alot of heat escapes through the top of the head. If that's true, he is heating up the planet faster than anybody. Bill Maher is another one whose hypocrisy is unbelievable.
Probably exhales CO2, too.
Submitted by Red Jeep on Sat, 08/27/2011 - 11:11pm.
.
There is undeniable proof that Global Warming is REAL.
Submitted by Rush Fan on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 5:41am.
Al Gore may be way off base when he claims that scientist would not recklessly manipulate the truth for money. But the bottom line is that Al Gore is right on base when it comes to Global Warming. There is widespread support that greenhouse gases (carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (NO2), and water vapor) are the reason the Earth is warming, impacting our future existence.
For those of you who claim Global Warming is an "unproven theory", let me cite two impartial references: PolitiFact and Governor Chris Christie.
At least one NewsBusters' contributor (who will go unnamed because I respect him, and everyone is entitled to a mistake now and then) often uses Politifact for fact checking. So you could conclude that the 2009 Pulitzer Prize winner website that is operated by the left-leaning St. Petersburg Times must be fair and accurate. Right?
Recently, Gov. Rick Perry made this statement:
PolitiFact rated Perry's statement as FALSE and wrote in part:
Republican Governor Chris Christie, who appears to be an intelligent and reasonable fellow, is a strong supporter of Global Warming (VIDEO) and the Green environmentalist movement. Gov. Christie has gone so far as to ban new coal plants in New Jersey, and he intends to shut down current coal plants. Additionally, Christie is committed to New Jersey's 2021 Renewables & Efficiency Standard, which will dramatically increase energy costs in that state for businesses and households.
If PolitiFact and Gov. Chris Christie have not persuaded you, and you are still convinced that Global Warming is an unproven theory, than my hats off to you. In my opinion you have much more common sense and objectivity than PolitiFact and Governor Christie.
For those of you who are still considering using PolitiFact as a reliable source for fact checking consider that PolitiFact rated FALSE this statement by former Governor and Republican presidential candidate Tim Pawlenty:
Finally, this is what PolitiFact wrote about the climategate email controversy:
You may not be convinced that Al Gore and the Left's Global Warming nonsense is real. But I hope you are now convinced that using PolitiFact as a source for fact checking is questionable to say the least. As for Governor Chris Christie, let's hope he comes to his senses, before he ever considers running on the Republican ticket for president.
Journalism As a Profession
Submitted by billyjack on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 10:56am.
... is slightly above pedophilia, but certainly below armed robbery.
Just because some journalist in Politifact selects from quotes from brainwashed idiots as if they knew something about the subject matter doesn't make it correct. The MSM hides any fact that goes against the religion of Secular Socialism, so how is this organization going to find out anything to the contrary to religious dogma of AGW. Case in point is recent NASA release that has recieved virtually no press that has proven through satellite measurements that long wave radiation(heat) continues to escape into space since 1978 at the same or higher rates despite the increased concentration of CO2. If the CO2 has not reduced the heat escape then the entire premise of AGW is false. This has received little attention while Michael Mann's hockey stick of fraud of pasting actual temperature measurements on the end of tree ring temperature estimates was never questioned until Climategate. Every computer model predicting runaway warming includes a calculation that predicts the exact opposite of this fact, that Lindzen(climate scientist @ MIT) has been pointing out for years with again no comment from the acolytes.
And then there's this...
Submitted by falcon on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 11:06am.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/08/25/cern_cloud_cosmic_ray_first_resu...
Hmm. Turns out the sun (yes, that massive yellow ball of flaming helium and hydrogen at the center of our solar system) is more instrumental in climate change than "scientists" believe. Wow, what a shocker. Color me surprised. /sarc
And I won't take your comment about journalists seriously, Billyjack - I used to be one, but was smart enough to get out of the business. :-)
“I will not stand by and watch this great country destroy itself under mediocre leadership, that drifts from one crisis to the next, eroding our national will and purpose.” – Ronald Reagan, July 17, 1980.
Global Warming
Submitted by dennyf51 on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 2:06pm.
When scientist can predict the weather tomorrow with 50% accuracy I may start to believe them. Unfortunately, I can't get my panties in a wad over science that has proven to be about as reliable as Chris Matthews is unbiased.
billyjack.......I expect PolitiFact, a factchecking website with
Submitted by Rush Fan on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 5:22pm.
a liberal biased agenda no different than any other Leftist organization, to regard as FACT that Global Warming is real.
What upsets me are those on the Right, who really should know better, using sites such as PolitiFact as legitimate and authoritative sources for facts. What dismays me is intelligent and seemingly sensible politicians, such as Gov. Chris Christie, buying hook, line and sinker into the Global Warming hoax, and more importantly, having the power to act on that faulty belief by banning coal plants.
Question: Aren't these the
Submitted by BD on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 2:12pm.
Question: Aren't these the same guys who in 1976 said that we were going into the next ice age?
Answer: Yup.
Question: Aren't these the same guys who said the ocean would be dead by 1990?
Answer: Yup.
Question: Aren't these the same guys who said the western economies could not keep up with centrally planned economies in the 1970's?
Answer; Yup.
Question: How many more times you gonna trust them?
Answer: ___________________?
Two days ago - CERN
Submitted by docjohn52 on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 2:36am.
The largest accumulation of scientists on the planet,
This is the downfall of AGW
http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2011/PR15.11E.html
It's the sun, and cosmic rays.
The earth may be warming, or cooling, but there's nothing the human race can do about it, unless you can think of a way to affect the sun.
In the words of Mr. Pandenski
Submitted by okie-pastor on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 2:07am.
In the words of Mr. Pendanski (movie: Holes)
"he's so stupid, he doesn't know he's stupid!"
Is Gore very evil and greedy or nuts and greedy?
Submitted by Boil It Down on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 4:27am.
I think we could have 80% of the scientific community stand up and scream BS about the cap and trade Gore promotes and he'd still be calling names and lying about his opponents.
What will it take to get him to realize we ain't buyin' what he's sellin'?
He is absolutely shameless and obviously lacks a conscience. -bidn-
But..........
Submitted by Qtaug on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 5:38am.
Didn't this "guy" hire a woman, to teach him how to be more of a man? Nuff said!!!
Al lost Joe Sixpack
Submitted by 4Deuce on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 7:52am.
Now that the man in the street - Joe Sixpack - has become aware of Climategate, he has reasoned that Al Gore and his Screaming Minions are flat-out liars... Al: you and those government grant sucking leeches need to accept that when Joe Sixpack has figured all of you outl, it's Game Over... You can be interviewed by all the fellow-traveler, lapdog media cheerleaders you wish. But you have been branded a snake oil salesman and old Joe, citing that old rock song, "Will not be fooled again"
Who is Alex Bogusky
Submitted by Gat New York on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 8:22am.
I think it is useful to know who Alex Bogusky is or was.
Bogusky was the Co-Chairman and head creative (called himself "chief insurgent officer" - whatever the heck that means) for an ad agency named Crispin Porter + Bogusky. The agency became famous for work on Burger King and Volkswagon.
The ad agency industry is a generally self-congratulatory business that ignores actual results.
For that reason Bogusky was inducted into the American Advertising Federation’s Hall of Achievement In 2009 and was named Creative Director of the Decade in Adweek magazine's Best of 2000s issue.
Even though he never went to college, he received an honorary PhD from the University of Colorado.
But here is the dirty little secret. The agency was fired from both Burger King and Volkswagon because their work failed and failed miserably. But since when did results means anything to ad agencies?
They were appropriately nailed by none other than the Publisher of Advertising Age, Rance Crain:
http://adage.com/article/rance-crain/ad-agency-business-losing-sight-purpose/149702/
Agent Algore
Submitted by AgentAmerican on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 9:15am.
It's been 11 years now. This completely insane madman is still looking for those hanging chads and butterfly ballots. They're still dancing around his monkey-chatter brain.
Remember the pilot episode of Rod Serling's Night Gallery where a Nazi war criminal was hiding in South America was trying to escape into a painting to eventually elude the pursing Mossad?
He's still looking for those ballots. David Boies won't take his calls anymore.
"The. Votes. Haven't. Been. Counted."
This whole trip down insane memory lane is about Florida 2000. Don't forget it.
Al Gore the Monkey Man...
Submitted by packman on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 9:31am.
continues to spew his liberal tripe. Now he accuses skeptics of being racist. Huh? Exactly how does that work Al? Sounds like more liberal spew...essentially, if you don't agree with him then you are...racists....or something.
One of my family members recently bought a new vehicle, a big GMC Sierra pickup. When criticized by one of their friends for buying one of these planet-gobblers, their response was, "oh, not to worry, we're also buying new bicycles to offset the emissions from the truck, so everything will balance out."
Unfortunately, there are still many who have bought into this Gorish brainwashing...who cling to the belief that riding your bike or planting a tree will actually change the earth's climate.
Watching the recent track of Hurricane Irene -- the weather system around this storm spans a diameter of about a thousand miles and since it formed off the coast of Africa, has traveled about 5000+ miles. But maybe if we get enough bicycles and electric cars together we can make that thing go somewhere else...or maybe actually prevent it from forming in the first place. Yeah.
"...Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread..." ~Thomas Jefferson
Gore's sunburned face was a nice touch.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 10:59am.
.
The Goracle proves over and
Submitted by ssquared on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 11:04am.
The Goracle proves over and over what a worthless, stupid piece of crap he is.
I really wonder how Tipper put up with him as long as she did.
I think he is becoming unhinged.
Where to start??
Submitted by dmaley1714 on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 11:10am.
Could this Al Goracle name one scientist who worked for tobacco and now oil companies. The same people. I believe the science of tobacco was debated in the 50's and 60's. So Al Gore Sr, pays a wunderkid maybe he was 35 to be an expert. Are we soupposed to believe the 50 to 60 years later this wunderkid who is now 85 to 95 years old is taking money from oil concerns to de bunk global warming. The absurdity of these baseless allocations is only as absurd as the pseuda intelectuals interviewers gigantic white watch of stupidity.
Al Gore...admitted liar
Submitted by Dr. Ron on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 11:24am.
1. Gore has admitted he used ethanol as a campaign green vote-getter when he knew ethanol was nothing but a scam.
2. Gore has no science credentials.
3. Gore stands to make millions from cap/trade of CO2...global warming.
4. All the global warming researchers were paid (grants , other ) for their research...the spigot was turned off if they did not toe the PC line...case closed.
Bravo Ronald John Lofaro, PhD
Submitted by Conservator on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 1:27pm.
I have ranted much about Gore's man-made myth, thus I will try to be short.
1) I know not one major theory, from the Theory of Evolution or Einstein's Theory of Relativity, that are settled-science. While there's board consensus on these theories, scientists still debate many of the fine details or the assumptions based on them - Anthropogenic Global Warming is a new theory compared to those above and for Gore to make such wild predictions, like the sea could rise by 20 feet by 2030 are asinine to say the least.
2) Regarding salaries earned by Global Warming alarmists (scientists) is laughable. Most of the scientific leaders in this political movement are well paid and have so many perks, they live like millionaires.
AL SPEWS HIS LIES BUT REFUSES TO:
Submitted by cbeyer on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 12:59pm.
...........debate scientists who do not support the theory of man made global warming. On MANY occasions Al Gore has been challenged to debates with global climatologists and scientists about his claims of 'man made' global warming.
As one who has participated in presidential and vice presidential debates, one is left to wonder why Al is scared crapless to debate with those who have repeated challenged him in a variety of venues. Oh...excuse me.... I guess it's because 'the science has been settled.
I worked at a teaching hospitals for 35+ years
Submitted by dostacos on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 1:28pm.
And the Chief of staff's would think a procedure worked, so we did a study to prove it. The difference our studies did prove that the procedure did indeed work. and we did NOT fake our data as it was peer reviewed for real NOT peer reviewed by fellow travelers {peeps that believe the same thing.} Many of the studies that showed climate change is poo, were shafted by the believers...
What a loser
Submitted by FEAR-ME on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 3:20pm.
this is no such thing as global warming only time it get's warm is in the summer ..I haven't seen one shred of evidence it does exsist how much are the fool's making I wonder.He is still mad he lost to GWB get over it..this must be the only way he can some money
I declare this the winning thread of the Day!! ROFLMAO!!
Submitted by wizardjr on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 6:20pm.
too, too funny.
This guy has completely lost it.
Check out
Submitted by hbnolikeee on Sun, 08/28/2011 - 10:56pm.
this post on climate change
CERN has delivered the global warming death blow...
Submitted by docjohn52 on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 2:40am.
The most respected group of 5000 scientists in the world: CERN (Large Hadron Collider, the Internet, etc.)
http://calderup.wordpress.com/2011/08/24/cern-experiment-confirms-cosmic...
The CLOUD experiment has finally finished, and the results are, Cosmic Rays from the SUN...
Not CO2 from man-made sources, including (hard as this is to say) the gas-bag Al Gore.
So the next time you hear from the IPCC, Nasa, East Anglia, or the aforementioned gas-bag, just mention CERN.
The CERN link: http://public.web.cern.ch/public/
Here's the news release:
http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2011/PR15.11E.html
This man was within a few "Electoral College" votes...
Submitted by jawebster1 on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 12:41am.
of being our 43rd president. The only thing more frightening is our 44th president! Heaven help us!
Hey Jim, don't forget about
Submitted by killa37 on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 12:58am.
Hey Jim, don't forget about John Effing 'why the long face' Kerry??? Just take a look at the LOOOOOO-ZERS that the Dems have foisted on this country!!! Say whatever you want about Bush (and I'm NOT a big Bush fan - at least not politically), these clowns are in a category of their own!!!
Just because Algore is full of hot air, he thinks we...
Submitted by jawebster1 on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 12:50am.
are in the midst of man-made "global warming". If people like him would just shut up for awhile, there would be no such thing as man-made global warming!
Only Flat-Earthers Need Apply!
Submitted by ZaXXoN on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 12:52am.
to Gore's theory, Galileo is the lone-nut
to Gore's theory, only Copernicus need apply
both were against what was considered "settled science (in the publics interest, no less)"
and yet who turned out to be right? the dissenters to "scientific consensus" or the "scientific consentors??"
Nice Pic Noel, that shot of Algore is $$$...
Submitted by bigdaddy on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 2:46am.
...he looks like he is choking on a big ol' piece of whale blubber or seal meat...
WINK, WINK
Submitted by Crash on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 6:40am.
Sure Al, what other lies have you told for money or power? Let's see ... how about voting for ethanol subsidies so you could win in Iowa?
When scientists have to pander to politicians in order to secure funding they are forced to look directly into the sun.
For the few knowing history, scientific integrity=oxymoron
Submitted by russedav on Mon, 08/29/2011 - 2:33pm.
Galileo and his new geokineticism (not the ignorant "heliocentrism" of the stupid bigoted evolutionism religion pretending to be science of CLERGYMAN Darwin, no one believing the sun is the center of the universe) didn't fight the geocentrism of the Church, rather that of the evolutionist scientists whose livlihood was threatened, and the same has been true for most scientific advancement that is usually CONTRARY TO CONSENSUS (e.g. Lister & Pasteur and their "consensus" opponents comparably as deluded and arrogant as Algore), despite today's lies to the contrary that easily fool the historically illiterate and the just plain totally illiterate that are the vast majority today so blind as to buy the deranged fascist lies that the unborn aren't babies but just blobs of tissue or "products of conception."
See why the creationism of SCIENTIST Sir Isaac Newton is true science and the evolutionism religion of CLERGYMAN Darwin is a laughable fraud without an ounce of scientific support outside the antiChristian religious bigotry that established it, sadly including most professing "christians" usually just as stupid and historically and especially Biblically illiterate, at www.creation.com and www.trueorigin.org.