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Chris Matthews Connects 9/11 To Bush's August 2001 Vacation

By Noel Sheppard | August 21, 2011 | 12:19

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As NewsBusters has been reporting, Obama-loving media have been working overtime excusing the President for taking a vacation at Martha's Vineyard as average Americans struggle in a down economy.

Perhaps the most disgusting example yet came on this weekend's "The Chris Matthews Show" when the host actually connected the attacks on 9/11 to former President George W. Bush's vacation in August the month before (video follows with transcript and commentary):

CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: Before we break, it's a busy August. Turmoil in the markets, a president under heat for taking even ten days off with so many people out of work and the approaching tenth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. It’s fascinating to see how different things were just ten years ago in August, 2001. While Osama bin Laden's henchmen were in the final stages of planning the 9/11 attacks, America slept. We were consumed by sensational news. The big story then: the disappearance of Congressional intern Chandra Levy. As the investigation of that began, local police and the media placed the spotlight on U.S. Congressman Gary Condit of California after it was confirmed he'd had an affair with Levy. The focus was totally unfair, but egged on by Condit's refusal to answer questions even until he finally talked to ABC News in late August.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you kill Chandra Levy?

FORMER CONGRESSMAN GARY CONDIT: I did not.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

MATTHEWS: What a question. Anyway, Condit’s political career was halted of course, and it wasn’t until this year that the convicted killer went to jail. Well August of ’01 was also the so-called summer of the shark.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's happened again and again. Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water, six swimmers and surfers off the coast of Florida were bitten by sharks over the weekend.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

MATTHEWS: Meantime, George W. Bush faced the biggest decision of his presidency up to that point: whether federal funds could be used for research on stem cells from human embryos. Bush decided those funds could only be used for research on existing stem cells not new ones.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

FORMER PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH: I have concluded that we should allow federal funds to be used for research on these existing stem cell lines, where the life and death decision has already been made.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

MATTHEWS: Well President Bush gave that speech from his Crawford ranch where he spent the entire month of August on vacation. Jon Stewart had this quip.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JON STEWART, “THE DAILY SHOW”: My president went on vacation. All I got was this lousy sense of impending doom.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

MATTHEWS: Impending doom. While clearly a joke, it was very prescient. That was just five weeks before 9/11.

How disgusting.

Of course, what Matthews and other Obama-loving so-called journalists conveniently ignore is that Bush's sojourns to Crawford were considered working vacations.

This should have been obvious even to a shill like Matthews who noted during this segment that Bush's stem cell address came from Crawford.

As USA Today reported at the time:

White House officials point out that the president is never off the clock. They refer to the 30 days at his Texas ranch — now it's called the Western White House — as a working vacation. He'll receive daily national security updates and handle the duties of the Oval Office from his 1,583-acre spread near Crawford. [...]

When Bush retreats to his ranch, aides say, the White House just changes location. "He'll be returning to Texas and operating out of Crawford," says Karen Hughes, counselor to the president, referring more to the small town where reporters will gather than the exact site of Bush's command center. He'll be 7 miles down narrow, winding Prairie Chapel Road.

Hughes rattles off a list of things that will take up the president's time, from daily national security briefings to whatever national and international matters may come up.

And addressing the nation when necessary.

Does that seem like ten days of golf, swimming, boating, and fine dining on Martha's Vineyard to you?

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Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Click here to follow Noel Sheppard on Twitter.
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Actually,

Submitted by retrocon on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 12:38pm.

Crawford trips weren't even "working vacations." They were more like telecommuting...

"working from home"

Martha's vineyard is hardly Obama's home... although knowing how he likes it, once O-man decides to nationalize it, maybe it will be the "more-Eastern White House for the Dear Leader and his glorious family as they want for restful moments away from the thankless hardships of guiding our undeserving lives for us." -- per Chris Matthews, August 2013

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One of the scariest things I

Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 2:39pm.

One of the scariest things I have heard.

Nuke em til they glow; then shoot em in the dark
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Chrissy is rattled.

Submitted by KyWriter on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 12:48pm.

Obama's poll numbers are tanking, he is negatively compared to Jimmy Carter, and Maureen Dowd has turned on him. How much worse can it get? Consequently, Chrissy is compelled to ratchet up his crap machine. This means nothing in the larger scope of things; just like Chrissy himself.

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Add Jeffrey Sachs to Dowd as

Submitted by Gat New York on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 1:15pm.

Add Jeffrey Sachs to Dowd as former sycophants who have had enough embarrassment for their unquestioned support for Obama. There are limits and Obama is such a failed Presidency that if you have an ounce of integrity and self-respect you cannot keep lying for this man.

Unfortunately, Chris Matthews has no self-respect and as long as those tingles up his leg keep up he will continue to lie on Obama's behalf.

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Then again Noel, maybe

Submitted by dscott on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 12:48pm.

Then again Noel, maybe Chrissy is predicting another 911 to happen on Obama's watch that will similarly define Obama like W? Maybe Chrissy is suggesting in a round about way that the Libya campaign isn't enough to make Obama's bonafides and as such requires us to attack Syria or Iran to rescue Obama's failed presidency? If not an outright attack maybe enough of a tease to justify one like the tensions brewing between Egypt and Israel? Just reading between the lines...

Egypt's radical Sunnis have to make their bones to counter Iran's Shiite (the heretics) growing influence in the M.E. Israel is the prime object to make that leadership stance to the rest of the Islamic world even if they get their butts kicked by Israel. Remember, in the Arab mind, the fact that a lessor opponent can get in a slap in the face on a superior one is grounds for standing in their culture even when the lessor is used to mop up the floor. Egyptian radicals have nothing to lose in provoking a war with Israel since Israel is not going to occupy Egypt and taking the Sinai back will only provide a rallying point for more radicalism amongst the population for decades to come. Really, how many Egyptians live in the Sinai? For them it's a win/win. And Obama's response? Empty Rhetoric. He will not step in to help Israel because he knows he can play both sides of the conflict since Egypt is now militarily weakened due to the current situation as to not prevail against Israel. For Obama, this is also a win/win.

A pretext against Iran for that matter also helps Obama. Iran being the number exporter and financier of world terrorism makes the perfect enemy. World oil prices skyrocket which promotes the Green Agenda. It all works to his favor.

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
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So using Matthews "logic",

Submitted by Bhaal on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 12:49pm.

So using Matthews "logic", anything bad that happens in the next five weeks to the U.S. or it's interest, would be the result of Obama taking a vacation. It's way past time for Matthews to go for a drug screening or he needs an evaluation from Dr Sam.

"For evil to triumph it is enough only that good men do nothing".
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I was waiting for this!

Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 12:50pm.

They crucified PRES Bush for taking even one day off, and during his first few months in office, they ripped him DAILY for anything he did or didnt do. And of course, once "THE War" started, they brutalized him so much the poor man could never golf again while in office. BUT, O'Bozo can golf, hang out with Follyweirdos, and par-TAY all the time, cause its GOOD for him! And of course, 9/11 must have been Bush's fault cause he went on vacations, yeah, thats right! Why doesnt Matthews go on a vacation-permanently!

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. BEN FRANKLIN
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Monkey Man Drooler...

Submitted by AgentAmerican on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 1:08pm.

Anytime now, he'll be hosting a Guyana Kool Aid party for those last remaining die-hard Obamites. Matthews has become Keithamphetimine crazy.

"Occupy this...I dare you."
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Gushing K00k !!!!!!! "That was just five weeks before 9/11."

Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 1:09pm.

The moonbat uses a lung full of air to dispatch that squishy lib disgusting verbiage.

You Didn't Build That.

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Attn. NewsBusters...

Submitted by bigdaddy on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 1:18pm.

Wouldn't it be easier if you just reported on Chrissy Legtingles when he said something that was close to the truth? His insane rantings just get more far out by the day.

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His Chrissy sense is TINGLING!

Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 1:25pm.

When he suspects someones dissing The Annointed One, he springs into action with his acerbic wit and his weapon of choice, his TONGUE, and lashes out on whomever it may be! Never fear, Capt Chrissie is HERE!

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. BEN FRANKLIN
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9/11 has more to do with Sura 9:111 than My Pet Goat

Submitted by scrubjay on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 1:33pm.

Sura 9:111 Lo! Allah hath bought from the believers their lives and their wealth because the Garden will be theirs: they shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an. Who fulfilleth His covenant better than Allah ? Rejoice then in your bargain that ye have made, for that is the supreme triumph.

Islamic terrorists have always been very attuned to symbolism.

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I blame.......

Submitted by GregE on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 1:33pm.

..........Obama's vacations for his return from vacations. He should vacation 365 days a year and stop interrupting it with bending America over.

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Quick! Change the locks,

Submitted by jessieH on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 1:36pm.

Quick! Change the locks, before he gets back!

                                                                                                                                                                    

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Disconnect the phones!

Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 4:47pm.

Re-do the alarm code! Put up a MOVING sign, or a VACANT sign, so O'Bozo knows what most of us are going through, while hes been hobnobbing with the very rich out on Mahthahs Vineyad!

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. BEN FRANKLIN
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Naw, it wouldn't work. He

Submitted by jessieH on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 1:37pm.

Naw, it wouldn't work. He would just break a window & get in.

                                                                                                                                                                    

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Oddly, W inherited ongoing military action in Iraq and Kosovo

Submitted by merly1 on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 1:38pm.

as well as a recession. Somehow to our media, that isnt an issue for what W inherited from Clinton......

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And addressing the nation

Submitted by TerryWest on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 2:38pm.

And addressing the nation when necessary?

Addressing the nation when not necessary has been the rule for this President.

To be honest I'm not feeling the average American gives a hoot where he is at this point, they have tuned him completely out to the point of no return.

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Go Chrissy

Submitted by rammingspeed on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 2:29pm.

Chrissy never disappoints, does he?

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A quick couple words on Chris Mathews...

Submitted by pockets64 on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 2:46pm.

What a banana slug!!

If you've ever dealt with one of these things, you will agree with me.

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'We were consumed by

Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 3:03pm.

'We were consumed by sensational news'??? Hey, Leghumper............speak for yourself - you're a damn 'newsman'!!! I doubt if a lot of us 'great unwashed' types give a rats rear-end about most of the 'sensational news' that you clowns continue to try and foist on us................that's one of the main reasons I don't watch the MSM. I can find the news that I'm interested in elsewhere.

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I'm more certain than ever

Submitted by Rusty Shackleford on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 3:06pm.

I'm more certain than ever that the purpose of MSNBC is to be so extremely leftwing that it makes the rest of the mainstream media seem more impartial and reasonable by default.




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The Make Believe Media must

Submitted by Free Stinker on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 5:57pm.

The Make Believe Media must be especially worried about Obama looking bad if they are resorting to this crapola.

 

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obamalamadingdong

Submitted by Kuso Jiji on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 6:29pm.

what a guy, nation falling apart and he goes on vacation, then he abandons the family to go golf with his buddies. oh thank god he got his national security brief first. i feel much safer. 2012 can't come soon enough for us and from the looks of it Barrack Milhouse Obama himself.

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One critical difference:

Submitted by Tom1969ca on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 8:30pm.

There is one critical difference, which Tingles conveniently overlooks: when President Bush headed for Crawford, neither he nor anyone else knew the horror the 9/11 terrorists were planning to unleash on America. When Obama headed for Martha's Vineyard, he knew unemployment was hovering around 9%, he knew America had lost its AAA credit rating, he knew the markets were shaky and he knew that the country had been without a budget for 325 days - and yet, knowing all this, he chose to go anyway.

Big difference.

Q: How is America different than the Titanic? A: The passengers on the Titanic didn't vote to hit the iceberg!
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Last budget signed into law

Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:22am.

Last budget signed into law was in the one early in 2009 and crafted in 2008.

Nuke em til they glow; then shoot em in the dark
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What's the term? Specious reasoning?

Submitted by ant on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 9:07pm.

So, from this we could assume 9/11 would never have happened, if Obama was President because he would have known (so much like a messiah and prophet of allah/moon god) that a vacation to Dubai would have placated the adherents of the "religion of pedophilia".

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Tingles has really been flacid lately

Submitted by WarEagle01 on Sun, 08/21/2011 - 9:22pm.

Used to be he couldn't get through his program without getting tumescent at the thought of his dear Barry. This lame and useless attack on Bush is his futile attempt to bring back that lovin' feeling he had back in 2008-09.

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Bush was finalizing his

Submitted by eaglewingz08 on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:31am.

Bush was finalizing his executive order revitalizing our national security apppartus after its destruction by the Clinton Administration. Unfortunately due to the time constraints imposed by federal law such action could not take effect until September 11, 2001. If it had not been for the evil Gorelick and her AG protector, the FBI and CIA throughout the country could have pieced together the intelligence and perhaps interrupted this war crime.

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Nothing personal eaglewing...

Submitted by Jer on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:47am.

but that is absolute, unadulterated nonsense.

Jer

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Which part? That Gorelick

Submitted by ant on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 12:50pm.

Which part? That Gorelick was/is a self-interested, incompetent, bureacratic a$$hole? That, my friend, is absolutely true.

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Jer has always stuck up for---

Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 2:11pm.

Gorelick.

Unsure if it is because he worships her, or just another knee-jerk framed as the "real" story.

Man is consistent with putting out the liberal version.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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It's not Gorelick worship...

Submitted by Jer on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 2:27pm.

It's an affinity for the facts--instead of partisan revisionism--as summarized by conservative Republican Slade Gorton:

"...Additionally, the assertion that the commission failed to report on this program to protect Ms. Gorelick is ridiculous. She had nothing to do with any “wall” between law enforcement and our intelligence agencies. The 1995 Department of Justice guidelines at issue were internal to the Justice Department and were not even sent to any other agency. The guidelines had no effect on the Department of Defense and certainly did not prohibit it from communicating with the FBI, the CIA or anyone else.

Congress created the walls that were in place before September 11 — such as the National Security Act’s prohibition on U.S. intelligence agency spying on Americans and the Posse Comitatus Act — that have nothing to do with the Department of Justice memo. The Defense Department’s own directives on sharing such information date from the 1980s. It is not clear that those laws would have prohibited sharing information in this instance..."

source.

Jer

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Oh..well, if a Republican

Submitted by ant on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 2:47pm.

Oh..well, if a Republican said so, it must be true. (sarc)

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Well, if you don't trust the word of Republicans...

Submitted by Jer on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 3:02pm.

I can probably dig up a few quotes from Democrats as well.

Jer

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You can keep digging if you

Submitted by ant on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 3:50pm.

You can keep digging if you like, but today is my one day off, and I will do no such thing. In fact, I probably won't read the pieces you site. In fact, I'm tempted to start posting music videos.

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Just so long as you post them in another window.

Submitted by upcountrywater on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 6:57pm.

So I can continue to read comments here...
while cranking your link ;-)

You Didn't Build That.

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You link this guy every time Gorelick comes up

Submitted by bkeyser on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:29pm.

426 words defending a peer on the commission of which he was part. Big damned surprise.

The Clinton White House changed the way we were pursuing terrorist suspects around the world from a primarily military operation to a primarily justice operation. This is undeniable, and defended by those in the Clinton Administration. Under those guidelines, and some over-stepping of boundaries by Ms. Gorelick and others, a "wall" was in fact created that helped deter dissemination of intelligence gathered by the DoJ to the DIS and CIA. This was done with the idea that were intelligence elements denied access, the "suspect" would receive an unimpeachable trial.

That mindset lives on today in Eric Holder. Liberals more often believe that acts of violence against a nation state are criminal in nature rather than acts of war. And the legal system of the United States -the same one that tried OJ and Casey Anthony- is better prepared to deal with historical acts and deter future acts of said violence than the military.

By the way, Gorton's entire premise is surmised in his last paragraph, a tell-tale sign that his piece was written defensively and in response to some very poignant charges. He sounds like a spoiled brat. It's ignoratio elenchi.

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"The Clinton White House

Submitted by Jer on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 5:27pm.

"The Clinton White House changed the way we were pursuing terrorist suspects around the world from a primarily military operation to a primarily justice operation."

Really?  Could you please delineate the process employed [executive order, legislative act, DOJ memorandum] and the actual substantive changes which were made.  What rules were abrogated, and when and by whom had such former rules been promulgated?  

How did the launching of forty seven cruise missiles with the intent of blowing bin Laden to smithereens comport with the change in the pursuit of terrorist policies from military to justice operations?  Was this not a clear violation of the rules by Clinton?  The impeachment-happy GOP Congress must have been befuddled.

If the alleged Gorelick "wall" was so onerous, why wasn't one of the first acts of the Bush administration to smash the wall and rewrite the guidelines to facilitate the apprehension of terrorists?  [Hint:  They too recognized that no wall had been built by Gorelick who merely clarified pre-existing regulations.  These were acknowledged and observed by Ashcroft who didn't publicly complain until his post 9/11 CYA testimony.  He certainly had more than ample opportunity to revise them beforehand if they were indeed so crippling.  Unfortunately, terrorism didn't even make his top ten list of priority issues. 

The present administration has been liquidating al-Qaeda at an unprecedented rate.  Check with the dwindling supporters of  the now bullet-ridden  remains of bin Laden about that 'justice vs. military' dichotomy you lament.  I suspect they might disagree.

BTW, I'll continue to link Gorton inasmuch as he knows the facts.  Conservative pundits with agendas to peddle, not so much.

Jer


 

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Active duty troop levels

Submitted by bkeyser on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 11:16pm.

  • 1991- 1,985,555
  • 2000- 1,384,338

Military budget:

  • 1992- $379.5B
  • 1998- $296.7B

There's much more to detail Clinton's decimation of the US Armed Forces during his two terms. I'm sure I don't need to detail them all.

"Granted that two data points may not prove a trend, but there’s one more puzzle piece on this line: 9/11 wasn’t the first attack on the World Trade Center. The first one occurred under Bill Clinton in 1993. Starting a war was exactly al-Qaeda’s purpose then. Despite this, Bill Clinton decided to not treat it as a war. Instead, the perpetrators of that attack were considered to be a band of outlaws to be dealt with by our criminal justice system and diplomacy.

"The Gorelick wall is directly consistent with that attitude. Clinton hailed the arrest and conviction of the masterminds involved with that 1993 plot and apparently considered it a closed case, ignoring the larger network of thugs still poised and equipped to attack us. The overall feeling projected by the White House was that we didn’t need worry about terrorism anymore, because we’d made an example of the criminals we managed to catch. Certainly this made Clinton’s leftist base feel good and made him popular enough among his base to win a second term. But I daresay that the second World Trade Center attack on 9/11 was the direct result of that mistaken approach and that, obviously, terrorism had not been contained by Clinton’s approach."

Ashcroft testified before the 9/11 commission: "In other words, the "wall of separation" constructed by Jamie Gorelick made it virtually impossible for U.S. authorities to stop Ahmed Rassam, the "Millenium Bomber," by design or intention. It was left to blind luck. The NSC's Millennium After Action Review — which, based on Attorney General Ashcroft's testimony, must be devastating in its analysis of not only this event but of the Gorelick policy — remains classified. And, most significantly, it's likely the Review's criticisms and warnings were either ignored or rejected by the Clinton Justice Department."

Need I go on?

Remember the term "Able Danger"?

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Yes, bk, you do need to go on...

Submitted by Jer on Tue, 08/23/2011 - 2:42am.

and produce pre 9/11 complaints by Ashcroft about the impediments created by Gorelick's alleged wall.  And then you can brush up on the history of Able Danger and its debunking by the Pentagon and the Senate Intelligence Committee as summarized below: 

"...Weldon and other officials have repeatedly claimed that the military analysts' effort, known as Able Danger, produced a chart that included a picture of Atta and identified him as being tied to an Al Qaeda cell in Brooklyn, N.Y. Weldon has also said that the chart was shared with White House officials, including Stephen J. Hadley, then deputy national security advisor.

But after a 16-month investigation, the Intelligence Committee has concluded that those assertions are unfounded.

"Able Danger did not identify Mohammed Atta or any other 9/11 hijacker at any time prior to Sept. 11, 2001," the committee determined, according to an eight-page letter sent last week to panel members by the top Republican and Democrat on the committee.

Weldon, the focus of an unrelated Justice Department corruption probe, was defeated last month in his campaign for an 11th term in a suburban Philadelphia district that has a large GOP majority in voter registration. Attempts were unsuccessful Sunday to reach a Weldon spokesman and an attorney representing Weldon in the Justice Department investigation.

The Senate panel began investigating Able Danger in August 2005, after Weldon and people close to the program went public with their claims. At the time, Weldon was the vice chairman of the House Armed Services Committee and the House Homeland Security Committee.

The recently completed probe also dismissed other assertions that have fueled conspiracy theories surrounding the Sept. 11 attacks.

The panel said it found "no evidence" to support claims by military officers connected to Able Danger that Defense Department lawyers prevented the team's analysts from sharing their findings with FBI counter-terrorism officials before the attacks..."

source.

Clinton's record on terrorism is mixed and no one can reasonably suggest  mistakes weren't made and opportunities weren't missed.  And it is problematic at best that had the Bush administration been more attentive and proactive as the intelligence warning lights were blinking red in the summer of 2001 the WTC and Pentagon attacks could have been averted.  But there was without question a pattern of neglect by the new administration, the ultimate consequences of which are unknown and unknowable.  However, at the critical juncture when extraordinarlly exigent circumstances literally screamed for dot connection, it must be noted the administration essentially reacted with a shrug.  And any possible chance of preventing 9/11 was frittered away.

Jer

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Ahh---

Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 08/23/2011 - 2:45am.

Bush's fault.

Got it.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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Actually md...

Submitted by Jer on Tue, 08/23/2011 - 2:52am.

I blame both administrations, as opposed to bk whose conclusion is apparently "It's all Clinton's fault." But your reaction doesn't surprise me. It's what I expect from ideologues who never let facts get in the way of their partisan finger-pointing.

Jer

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Well, Jer---

Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 08/23/2011 - 4:25am.

It is such a comfort to know that you, a liberal, to the fookin' bone, would never take up an ideological stance that would appear to be partisan finger pointing..

Such as, say, your take on Jaime Gorelick.

'Scuse me while I retch.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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md

Submitted by bkeyser on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 2:27pm.

here must be something personal there; he's always tried to re-write that history. I actually think he believes Ms. Gorelick was beneficial to the intelligence community.

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It would be inexplicable, bk---

Submitted by matthewdean on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 3:30pm.

except for the fact it is Jer acting out the leg humping bit.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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bk...

Submitted by Jer on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:16pm.

Don't you think your accusation would be better directed at Slade Gorton? I think he was in a slightly better position than either you or me regarding the actual facts of the matter. Why not fire off a missive and advise him how he is attempting to rewrite history? Maybe he can ease your concerns--which not surprisingly correspond to a remarkable degree with the views of that notable 9/11 authority Sean Hannity and his uber-indignant talking points.

Jer

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Jer

Submitted by bkeyser on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 4:30pm.

See above.

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Jer has done lots of fancy

Submitted by dscott on Mon, 08/22/2011 - 10:30pm.

Jer has done lots of fancy foot work to studiously avoid the central problem of Clinton's legacy concerning 911. If the world loved Clinton so much during his 8 years, then why did OBL and al Qaeda conceive, plan, finance and train during Clinton's term only to 9 months later after leaving office to murder 3000 civilians on 911?

I believe the military data mining group ABLE DANGER was not even mentioned in the 911 commision report, so quoting an obviously incomplete report that white washes Clinton's incompetence is just plain lame. Had the Clinton admin done it's job, there would have been no 911. No invasion of Afghanistan and no invasion of Iraq would have occured, each was the pretext and context for the following event. Bill Clinton even admitted he had literally had 10 chances to kill OBL and flubbed it. How many US solders and countless civilians have died in Iraq and Afghanistan since 911? To date: 4,792 Coalition Causualties In Iraq and 2,685 in Afghanistan. http://icasualties.org/

Incompetence has consequences. In all toll, between 911, Iraq and Afghanistan some 10,000 people have died due to Bill Clinton's INCOMPETENCE. No amount of whitewashing will ever clean the blood off of Bill Clinton's Admin.

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
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So Jer says---

Submitted by matthewdean on Tue, 08/23/2011 - 2:32am.

"BTW, I'll continue to link Gorton inasmuch as he knows the facts. Conservative pundits with agendas to peddle, not so much."

I wonder if ol' Jer typed that out with a straight face?

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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