Maher Proves Limbaugh's Point About Hyped Heat Wave Reports: 'It Was 123 In Minnesota'
Conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh on Wednesday mocked news outlets hyping the heat wave gripping much of the nation by reporting the heat index rather than the actual temperatures.
On Friday's "Real Time," host Bill Maher proved Limbaugh's point by falsely telling his audience, "It was 123 in Minnesota" (video follows with transcript and commentary, vulgarity alert):
BILL MAHER: No, I know why you're happy. It’s because you're indoors. It's hot outside. Not as hot here as it a lot of places in the country. Do you know that 29 states are under what they call a heat advisory? When I was a kid this used to be called, “Get the f--k inside.”
But, I mean, they’re triple-digit temperatures. It was 123 in Minnesota. How far is Al Gore going to take this global warming hoax? A hundred?
[Applause]
Before we get to the stupidity and/or dishonesty on display, Maher followed this up by making another tasteless joke about Marcus Bachmann:
MAHER: 123 in Minnesota? Minnesota? Michelle Bachmann's husband went in the closet just for the shade.
[Cheers and applause]
Oh, I kid Michelle Bachmann.
Hysterical, isn't it?
Not so funny was how Maher was doing exactly what Limbaugh spoke about Wednesday:
RUSH LIMBAUGH: They're playing games with us on this heat wave again. Even Drudge is getting sucked in here, gonna be 116 in Washington. No, it's not. It's gonna be like a hundred. Maybe 99. The heat index, manufactured by the government, to tell you what it feels like when you add the humidity in there, 116. When's the last time the heat index was reported as an actual temperature? It hasn't been, but it looks like they're trying to get away with doing that now. Drudge is just linking to other people reporting it, he's not saying it, I don't want you to misunderstand, but he's linking to stories which say 116 degrees in Washington. No. It's what, a hundred, 97, 99. It's gonna top out at 102, 103. It does this every year. There's a heat dome over half the country, the Midwest, it's moving east. And it happens every summer.
Indeed. Maher likely got this 123 figure from a CNN.com piece reporting such a heat index in Hutchinson, Minnesota, Tuesday.
If folks like him were honest, they would first make clear that heat index is not temperature. It's temperature including the impact humidity has on it.
And that's the real news this week that global warming obsessed media members have downplayed - record humidity.
As Conservation Minnesota reported Wednesday:
Tuesday evening, around the dinner hour, the dew point at Moorhead reached 87.8 F, making this the most humid reporting station on the planet. The heat index peaked at an almost incomprehensible 134 F. at Moorhead.
Yet, as Minnesota Public Radio reported Wednesday, it was only 93 F when that record-breaking heat index was recorded in Moorhead.
What was responsible then? As the Bemidji Pioneer reported Saturday, it was the unprecedented humidity:
Meteorologists have determined that large fields of corn raise the dew points in surrounding areas because corn “sweats” on hot days. When the humid air mass that originated over the Gulf of Mexico passed over the sea of green that is Iowa, sweating corn likely added to the humidity levels.
Of course, it's also been a very rainy season throughout much of the upper Midwest adding to the high humidity levels.
But folks like Maher aren't concerned with such things.
Heat indices skyrocketed last week, and that must mean Nobel laureate Gore is right about global warming regardless of all the other factors involved.
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Heat Indexes are Inflated
Submitted by richb313 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 5:51pm.
I had noticed they were poswting heat indexes not the actual temp but I suspect that someone has changed the way the heat index is calculated because I can not remember the Heat Index this high for the same temps and humidity. Kinda makes you wonder if someone is fudging the numbers, again.
Wait a minute,
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 5:54pm.
Wait a minute, Donkeyface............when you were a kid, it was called 'get the f**k inside' weather??? When you were a kid, there wasn't any such thing as 'global warming'...................so what's the f**king difference, meathead???
Oh yeah.................GREAT photo of the flatulent and helium-filled ALGORE!!!!
Good afternoon Killa*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 6:06pm.
Here ya' go. Made you a fresh pot of coffee since you seem to be in need.
Hey!!! Don't make fun of my
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 7:28pm.
Hey!!! Don't make fun of my Maher impersonation!!! I'm fine over here, on a sunny afternoon in an outer island of Hawaii.
AAAAAALLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHAAA!
Submitted by OldJarhead77 on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 12:06pm.
HEY BRAH! Glad to hear all is well in the Great State OF HAWAII!
"Even Drudge is getting
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 5:57pm.
"Even Drudge is getting sucked in here, gonna be 116 in Washington...Drudge is just linking to other people reporting it, he's not saying it..."
And this, in a nutshell, is the problem I have sometimes with the Drudge Report. Inflammatory (pardon the pun) headline followed by a link to either a website of questionable balance or a story that is less than the sensational headline link would indicate.
When some of this heat
Submitted by ahusser on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 6:00pm.
Hit the DC area where I reside. I was watching the Tour De France where it was unseasonably cool in the early stages. I believe that LA has been cooler than usual. I think this is just normal variation in weather. In DC Thursday the high temp near 100 degrees didn't break the record set 30 years before. This heat index is summer's answer to the wind chill factor.
"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'
No wonder
Submitted by HockeyKid on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 6:05pm.
Maher turned out so stupid. He had a mother who gave him such sage advice as, "get the f--- inside". That's right, Bill--yo' momma.
Maher wanted to be scientist, but couldn't stay on topic long enough to spell it.
But it was indeed hot--so hot, in fact, that Maher was checked into the hospital for delusional heat stroke. Then they saw his show.
Maher is convinced this weather is evidence of global warming. So convinced, in fact, that he's giving up both his cars and his TV show to help save the planet. Just ask him.
Maher had an audience member fall over dead. The heat? No, Maher's latest genius girlfriend went to the show and realized her future depended on his humor.
I'm not saying Maher's an ass, but he is in the final cut to be the Dems' new mascot in their 2012 campaign ads.
"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me
"He had a mother who gave him
Submitted by MikeB on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:14am.
"He had a mother who gave him such sage advice as, 'get the f--- inside'", which just tells me Billy was dumber than cowflop as a kid, and he hasn't gotten any better since then.
Did his mother have to tell him
Submitted by UpNorth on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:59pm.
to come in out of the rain, too? Billy is the poster child for dumb.
Good evening UpNorth
Submitted by cocodrie on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 1:14pm.
She told him but, he didn't have enough sense to come in. His brain got cooked by the heat then waterlogged by the rain.
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
There's something important about 'trusting the science,' . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 6:13pm.
. . . which is what the Left is constantly telling us.
And that important thing is: UNDERSTAND THE SCIENCE.
If you can't tell the difference between air temperature and heat index, how in the world can you understand climate change data?
Maher, who thinks of himself as an intellectual, demonstrates that many of the AGWers don't understand data.
As reasonably intelligent
Submitted by ahusser on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 6:27pm.
But scientifically challenged I need to trust those who "translate" the science to
the masses to be reasonably objective, unbiased and without an agenda. I don't think we have been getting this as it pertains to global warming.
"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'
ahusser*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 6:34pm.
Hello mon ami. It has been awhile.
Like you, I am not of the scientific bent so I found this site written in language I can almost understand
Hello Cajun
Submitted by ahusser on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 7:01pm.
I haven't been on NB for a while. Hope you are doing well and thanks for the link. Any branch of science is esoteric to most except the scientists themselves. The populisers of all scientific works and the media have an obligation if not a duty to be objective. G knows we are only getting mostly lefty viewpoints when it comes to global warming or climate change. The problem is how can we trust anything from these folks again if all information from the mass media is politicized. Once the trust is gone only suspicion remains.
"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'
Here's all you need to know about AGW science
Submitted by lsudolemite on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 6:58pm.
Never trust the predictions of numerical models of something as highly complex as global climate as being even close to the absolute truth without some very strong corroborating evidence. Unfortunately, models are really all they have since you can't isolate the earth's climate in somebody's lab and look at the independent impact of different variables, nor can you jump in a time machine to see what the mean global temperature is 100 years from now.
The old axiom in computer modeling is "garbage in, garbage out." Even if you assume that you have perfectly accurate climate data (which has come into serious question in recent years), if a critical piece of physics is poorly implemented or left out of the model altogether, then it's useless. It assumes that we are aware of, and can accurately model, all of the significant processes that affect global climate.
Even if all these conditions are met, even the best-posed models include parameters that require experimental data to fill in the blanks in order to specify. So they look at temperature data going back centuries and millenia, using measured temperatures and proxy data. Once they do that, they have to assume that the same trends observed in the past will apply to the future. We call it extrapolation, which is often a dangerously unreliable method.
So to sum it up, AGW is built on the backs of models, all of which require a host of dubious assumptions to be met if we are to trust their accuracy. And upon this house of cards the likes of Bill Maher want us to sacrifice a standard of living that has taken human beings thousands of years to attain. Moron.
Well done T-Mite*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 7:13pm.
Even I understood your post...;-)
Hey, I'm not a real scientist, but
Submitted by lsudolemite on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 7:20pm.
1. I play one in graduate school,
2. I slept in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
;)
The basic stuff really isn't that hard to understand. As with most things, the devil's in the details.
Isudolemite
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 7:16pm.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Never trust numerical models
Submitted by MikeB on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:49pm.
Never trust numerical models of global climate to have much, if any, truth in them. Climate is chaotic, and while great strides have been made in Chaos Theory, chaos is not predictable enough to be able to accurately assess the weather 5 days out, much less the climate 50 years out.
MikeB
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:37am.
The argument that global atmospheric models have to be flawed because we can't predict the weather five days from now reflects, I think, a misunderstanding of what global models are designed to do and what they predict.
The chaotic nature of the atmosphere does limit the accuracy of models which attempt to predict local, small scale atmospheric changes (i.e. weather) since slight inaccuracies in initial conditions put into the model can lead to large errors in a short time.
By contrast, models which look at large scale, long term trends don't attempt to predict small scale pattern and so don't suffer from this limitation - though they do still run into all the problems mentioned by Isudolemite. Their results are more statistical in nature.
A good analogy I've read is that the difference between the two approaches is like the difference between trying to predict what the next roll of a die will be (which would require a very detailed understanding of the motion of and forces acting on the die) and trying to predict what the distribution in rolls will be after many die rolls. The latter approach doesn't deal with the details but instead makes predictions based on more general characteristics of the system.
Why do you assume ...
Submitted by NL207 on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 1:21pm.
The climate system itself is not chaotic? If it is, then its no more predictable than the weather is and for the same reasons.
NL207
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 3:06pm.
Yes, the climate is a chaotic system. Nothing I wrote suggests that I've assumed otherwise. My point was that attempts to make predictions on the small scale level (i.e. local weather patterns) are limited because of this but long time, large scale statistical predictions aren't.
A statistical analysis of a large number of time trajectories within some given chaotic system will give you information about that system's general (i.e. statistical) behavior and that behavior will very much reflect the details of the system. Chaotic attractors, for example, are an example of this.
Look at it this way - despite the Earth's atmosphere being a chaotic system I think you would agree that the average temperature of (let's say) the Northern Hemisphere over time shows an oscillatory pattern with a period corresponding to one year.
Are you saying that's it is beyond the ability of scientists to develop realistic computer models (which incorporate the chaotic nature of the atmosphere) which captures this phenomenon?
Chaotic systems aren't the same as random ones.
It most certainly lies beyond the present
Submitted by NL207 on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 3:11pm.
capability of the AGW crowd, since none of their models has correctly tracked the late warming trend and not one of them correctly predicted the cooling period we just entered.
While it may be possible to construct an accurate statistical model of Earth's climate system, nobody has done it so far, and these demands we hear for massive government intervention to avert a human induced climate catastrophe are based on nothing.
NL207
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 3:24pm.
I asked about the ability of models to predict the fact that it gets cold in the winter and warm in the summer. I didn't ask about the "late warming trend" or the "cooling period we just entered".
If you have seen my posts on this topic, you know that I don't put much stock in the predictions made by these models for the simple reason that they have yet to be tested empirically. In my area of work, that's how you see if a computer model is worth anything.
But the argument that we should just dismiss all attempts to predict long term trends in the climate because we can't predict the weather five days from now reflects a basic ignorance of how chaotic systems work and how they are analyzed.
The latter approach won't work when dealing with unknowns
Submitted by CobraMan on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 1:52pm.
The "dice approach," the use of statistical analysis to predict possible outcomes, only works if there are known, fixed variables, like the number of dice and the number of sides to each die. Climate, as it turns out, keeps throwing us new unknowns at every turn, because it IS a chaotic, dynamic system, with an unknown amount of continually evolving variables, and, therefor, an unknown amount of "predictors." Statistical analysis fails when, every time the dice are thrown, new dice with new sides are reviled. That's the current condition of "climate science."
The use of the current climate models to predict long term trends are equivalent to using the statistical analysis of the possible outcome of two six sided dice toss when the hand making that toss contains an unknown number of dice with an unknown number of sides. That analysis, and the predictions based upon that analysis, will fail, time and time again.
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CobraMan
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 3:11pm.
I pretty much agree.
My point, however, was that the assertion that long term predictions of chaotic systems can't possibly be accurate since small scale predictions aren't isn't a valid argument.
The later runs up against the problem of sever sensitivity to initial conditions (a fundamental characteristic of chaotic systems) while the former (as you point out) runs into the problem of knowing what affects to incorporate into models and how to do it.
Those are two different things.
Logarithmic inaccuracies
Submitted by CobraMan on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 11:54am.
"My point, however, was that the assertion that long term predictions of chaotic systems can't possibly be accurate since small scale predictions aren't isn't a valid argument."
But that is a valid argument, for the inaccuracies, the variances, will increase logarithmically as the scales are increased. The more you increase the scale, the greater the inaccuracies become. If you have a 50 percent accuracy rate for a 1 day prediction, that accuracy rate drops to 5 percent for a 100 day prediction, .5 percent for a thousand day prediction, and so on. It's logarithmic.
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Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
CobraMan
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 5:52pm.
Sorry - I should have been a bit clearer.
If you read my posts above to Mike B and NL207 you'll see what I mean about large scale and long term predictions. If you'd like me to clarify beyond those, let me know.
As an aside - I'm not sure what you mean by logarithmic. The progression you describe is a geometric one with the ratio between successive terms being 1/10.
Also, as I understand it, the rate at which slightly different initial conditions (or variances, as you put it) in chaotic systems diverge is an exponential one and is typically characterized via a Lyapunov exponent.
Real science is not afraid of challenges
Submitted by Galvanic on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:56am.
The politicization of anthropogenic global warming (AGW) theory has polarized it. The more outspoken advocates of AGW theory want to believe it because it justifies the transfer of wealth around the world (e.g. Kyoto Accord).
This is why the most outspoken zealots of AGW are not the scientists who claim it to be true, but personalities on the Left, who have transformed it into something akin to a religious faith. Hence, when numerous flaws in the research and even evidence of fraud are revealed, rather than revisit the science, they attack the blasphemers (e.g. flat-earthers, climate change deniers, et al.).
Considering the drastic economic implications of AGW whether it is true or not, the so-called debate that Gore claims is over, has actually never been held. We are wasting $ billions in ineffective green investments because because ignorant politicians who don't even understand the science are trying to please constituents. Ethanol is just one case in point.
Wouldn't it be great if a major network allocated 60-90 minutes of prime time to a true scientific debate on AGW, with each side having equal time to present their case and later rebut the opposition? Could it be that the Left is afraid of such a debate?
Real science has very little to do ...
Submitted by NL207 on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 1:28pm.
with the AGW crowd. They cannot do any substantive controlled experiments on their macro subject matter. Everything they do with respect to macro climatology is numerical model based. This limitation removes them from the realm of traditional scientific methodology.
NL207
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 3:32pm.
Your criticism of atmospheric physics and how those in it do their work could just as easily be leveled against astronomers and cosmologists and geophysicists and a bunch of others in science.
Although I suppose you could argue that all of those areas of work fail to follow the traditional scientific methodology, I'm guessing the bigger issue is that the folks in these other areas aren't trying to use their work to create political/economic changes in our and other's countries.
I recently saw an interview with a scientist
Submitted by lsudolemite on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 4:49pm.
who extracts ice core samples in Antarctica to construct global temperature and CO2 histories. He claimed to show an unprecedented spike in both that conveniently started right around the time of the Industrial Revolution, and of course, has reached historic magnitudes in the last 100 years or so. You can figure out which side of the AGW debate he falls on.
He actually would have been persuasive had he not blurted out toward the end of the interview that "We need to pay for what we've done." And in a 3-second sound bite he instantly destroyed his credibility.
Okay, so you've successfully debunked AGW...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:59pm.
now what about professional wrestling?
Jer
All Star Acting
Submitted by CobraMan on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:29pm.
Geraldo Rivera tried debunking professional wrestling once. Remember what happened to him? I believe the term "bitch-slapped" comes to mind. Heh
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Cobra---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 5:16pm.
When I saw John Stossel get slapped upside his head, I felt bad for him.
I would not only pay to see Jerry Rivers bitch slapped, I would cheer the event.
Hell, I would even chair the event.
MD
No Charge For You
Submitted by stratman on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 8:01pm.
Speaking of "chair"... here you go. (why do I think that wasn't a coincidence on your part, my clever friend?)
Rivers gets some and gives some too. Looks to me like Jerry commited a crime of battery by pursuing another guy who was not a threat to him and may have been trying to get off stage. Also, this guy appears to have thrown the chair at the Black man who instigated the riot by strangling the vile puke skinhead. The chair appears to do more damage to Geraldo than to the man that was more likely the target.
Maher does prove one thing
Submitted by Robersire on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 6:15pm.
Maher does prove one thing... evolution... he is the missing link
HAhahahahaha
Submitted by papagiorgio200 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 6:27pm.
Blame this then, on the "Al Gores" and alternative fuel. Sooo Great!
Fox News last night
Submitted by GregE on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 6:27pm.
They did it too. Rick Reichmuth showed a temperature map of Friday, then the heat index, then said it's going to be a bit more tomorrow, then changed the map to tomorrow's temps (Saturday) to only the heat index number.
Heat index heat + humidity. Why no heat index in winter? Humidity changes how it "feels" regardless. And it feels different to different people.
What about wind chill in summer? Does 100 degrees in 20 mph winds feel different than 100 degrees with no wind? Of course it does.
In summer the "feels like" number is only used to report higher. In winter the "feels like" temp is only used to report lower.
Greg,
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 6:39pm.
Actually, here in New Mexico, we can have a 95 degrees day - then, in the late afternoon, the fifty miles per hour winds kick in - which is the difference between feeling like an oven and feeling like a convection oven. :)
Just wondering
Submitted by mandrake on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 7:12pm.
If you're feeling really hot, what you rather lie down on, a slab of marble or a plank of wood?
I think that depends on if
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 7:22pm.
I think that depends on if you're pastry dough or a salmon fillet. :)
mandrake
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 7:28pm.
What temperature are the marble and wood at?
Marble has the higher thermal conductivity so it will heat/cool things it is in thermal contact with faster (assuming there is a temperature difference) but wood tends to have a large specific heat so it "stores" more thermal energy than marble does.
Why?
Why you ask?
Submitted by mandrake on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 7:49pm.
Just because it's a dumb question. You should see some of the other stuff I come up with. Most of the time (but not always) good sense gets the better of me and I hit the delete button. :)
It's been so insufferably hot
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 8:20pm.
It's been so insufferably hot in Atlanta recently I actually fantasize about resting my fevered brow on Rush Limbaugh's cold, cold heart while his pool boys serve me frozen daiquiris.
Jer
Jer
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 8:24pm.
Well, that's a pretty messed up image right there.
Not that there's anything wrong with it.
Granted, hydro....
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 8:30pm.
But have you ever noticed in the movies the crazy things people start thinking when they're lost and baking in the Sahara?
Jer
LOL Jer,
Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:42pm.
Yeah, that was an interesting mental picture going on there.
And you're right, it has been so miserably hot here even the dog doesn't want to go out in the afternoons.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
It's so hot here, that the
Submitted by MikeB on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:02am.
It's so hot here, that the other day I ran water to wash dishes. The water was too hot, so I left it to cool down some. When I came back, the water was boiling in the sink!
And, you talk about dry! It's so dry here that when I went fishing last weekend that I had to pull 3 ticks off the catfish I caught.
Trust me. Would I lie?
Actually, it's been so hot here that I've considered inviting Algore here to give a lecture on global warming ... we would welcome the snowstorm.
Marble.
Submitted by GregE on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 7:39pm.
Provided it's in the shade.
Hey if the heat index is what it "feels like," are they talking about what it feels like to a 6' 4" 160 lb person or a 5' 5" 300 lb person? Because I can guarantee you those people don't have the same "feel." :-)
The Heat Index and The Wind Chill Factor.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 6:35pm.
What we used to call exaggeration.
SoL
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 6:42pm.
I thought exaggeration was saying "It's hotter (or colder) than hell out there" :)
Spring has sprung,---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 6:47pm.
Fall has fell,
Summer's here,
and it's hot as
the dickens.
MD
md,
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 7:04pm.
Hey, that almost rhymes. :)
Chris: whatever you do,
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 7:54pm.
DO NOT get MD started on alliteration.
I've seen it, and it takes hours for him to come out of it ;)
It's a curse, I tell ya---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 8:33pm.
a cotton-pickin', cockamamie, conundrum causing, core centered, cerebrally compelling case of chump chasing; a collectively conservative crusade to combat, chastise, conquer, or cremate, Cro-Magnon critters currently camouflaged as liberals.
Howzat?
MD
Not bad
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 8:36pm.
Not bad at all.
*
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 8:44pm.
*
Crummy.
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 8:45pm.
Jer
Could be---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:19pm.
contagious.
MD
Or perhaps
Submitted by MikeB on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:56pm.
Corny.
Hafta go with that one, Mike B---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 1:07am.
Corny it is. :o)
MD
...........really right-on
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 8:45pm.
...........really right-on regarding rhyming, rhythmic, retrospective, rockin' and reelin' right-wing riffs representing realistic reasons and representative realizations.............regardless of the reprehensible and re-hashed retribution that you will receive from the radical retrobates and rats from the (w)rong region of re-distributive reality..................
killa---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:00pm.
good stuff -
" ---rockin' and reelin' right wing riffs ---"
Musically inspired, I see.
MD
It's all your fault,
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:03pm.
It's all your fault, MD..........you got me goin'!!! See what happens when I have a day off, and I've got chores and housework and laundry to do, and there's no surf to get me outta the house??? This bilge just sort of floats through my little peabrain and then rolls off my fingertips onto the keyboard...............I think Jer will probably give it a 'crummy' rating!!!
Pretty parn pood, if you pask pee
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:06pm.
Put I'm no pextpert.
misguided meanderings from a
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:39pm.
misguided meanderings from a mischievous malcontent miscreant, mollifying my mundane mindset on a marvelous magnificent magical mafternoon...............
Summer is a bummer
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 8:41pm.
So roll out the kegs...
it's hot as the dickens,
that even the chickens
are laying boiled eggs.
Jer
Come on, Jer
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 8:46pm.
Everyone knows that ABAB is the preferred rhyme scheme in the summer time.
hydro---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 8:54pm.
I always liked ABBA, too.
MD
Yeah, that Agnetha babe was a real...
Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:12pm.
...babe. :-)
Oink.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
"Agnetha" - for when Agnes is not a horrific enough name.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:19pm.
Disclaimer: apologies to anyone here actually named Agnes, but I think you know I'm talking about.
SoL,
Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:38pm.
LOL - They could have named her Bertha or Hildegard for all I would have cared.
I have always had a thing for Swedish blonde hotties. :-)
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Even Gretchen or Gertrude????
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:41pm.
Even Gretchen or Gertrude???? You'd HAVE to come up with some kind of nickname to get over that...............
Dang it Dave You mention
Submitted by Scuba Dude on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:43pm.
Dang it Dave
You mention Bertha and I immediatly think of this.
Hmmm... I don't think "Blonde" is actually a name
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:45pm.
????
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matthewdean
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:25pm.
Holy cow - it took Dave's post for me to get what you were talking about.
Now I want to do two things:
1) slow up on the beers
2) pop in my ABBA Gold CD
hydro---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:29pm.
Now we're even.
Your two questions to GiyGas made my head hurt. :o)
MD
When summer blazes---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 8:52pm.
to the point where it raises,
a liberal's desire,
to add to the fire,
by rhyming his words,
or drinking with Rush,
OMG, Jer,
Have you become a lush?
Good one re: boiled eggs, however, I'll quit if you will. :o)
MD
Deal...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:00pm.
Time to chill.
Jer
And forego---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:07pm.
the swill.
MD
Do what you
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:19pm.
Do what you will..............but don't take a pill.........
Do what you will...
Submitted by Rukus on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 1:14am.
Or Say What You Will?
Or 'Shoot to
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 2:07am.
Or 'Shoot to Thrill'..........by that l'il ol' Aussie rock'n'roll band AC/DC???? If I knew how to link something here, I'd do it.
Okay, here's how
Submitted by Rukus on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 2:37am.
Copy the address you want to link. In reply make sure you click on 'switch to rich text' (under this box). Highlight the word/s you want to be your link. Up top is a bunch of icons, the 5th one over is the link thingy, it will pull up a box, paste your previously save link into the URL box and hit ok, done deal. Try it buddy. I.E. Shoot to Thrill
Jeez, Gary............you
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 3:03am.
Jeez, Gary............you lost me at 'copy'!!! Hahahaha!!! I don't even know how to do that!!! I'm SUCH a friggin' techno dummy!!!
But I can type as fast as my mind can think........stemming back from my high school typing class. Did I tell you that Boy Barry went to the same high school that I went to??? I don't think I woulda liked the little faggot, to tell you the truth. I think he has the same attitude back then that he has now..............
Oh..........you also lost me at 'paste'!!! I've got some in my kitchen drawer!!! If my son was here, he'd tune me in real quick......
or just laugh at me and tell me to get back onto my horse and buggy!!!!
it's summer!
Submitted by MidAmerica on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 6:38pm.
Unseasonably hot is an indication of Warming/Climate Change the warmers say.
Even though I live surrounded by those sweaty corn fields and it's been hot, the real problem is the humidity not the actual temperature. But even so, I have still been doing my daily 20 mile bike ride (and needing a shower afterwards).
Another issue to consider is the great number of people who spend almost all their time in air conditioning. They feel like the world is on fire. But if you aren't spending any amount of time in the heat you never acclimate to it.
I mean it is hot, but one of the reasons it seems so very hot this year is that we've had relatively cool summers for the last few years. Now we are having a real July. Soon in August our humidity will drop and even though the temperatures will be high it will actually be pleasant. ahhhhh....
and the nights will begin to cool.
and then frost on our pumpkins.
and then soon after that unseasonably cold temperatures.....
and then..... the warmers will remind us that weather is not climate.
Summer temperatures
Submitted by Giygas on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 8:09pm.
"I mean it is hot, but one of the reasons it seems so very hot this year is that we've had relatively cool summers for the last few years."
Wrong! In the past last decade, only 2 summers were cooler the average in the U.S. All the others were hotter than average.
This summer's temperature anomalies are much larger in the direction of warmth than last winter's temperatures were in the direction of cold. This July is on track to being on the top-five hottest Julys in U.S. history. This is coming on the heels of the 4th hottest summer in U. S. history and the hottest in the northern hemisphere in 2010. http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=1853
Climate deniers flip flop seasonally. In the winter when we have normal or modestly colder than normal temperatures, they claim the weather proves climate change is a hoax. In summers when we have widespread record breaking heat, they say its perfectly normal and says absolutely nothing about climate trends. Don't say the "warmists" are hypocrites, despite moderately cold temperatures in the eastern U.S. last winter, global temperatures remained high.
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2011/2
Rush Limbaugh is a despicable cretin who celebrates his stupidity to his audience of drool monkeys.
Giygas
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 8:19pm.
Interesting.
Could you tell me what a "9-Point Binomial Filter" is or how the red trend line was calculated?
Or why the temperature data points don't have any error bars on them (something any legitimate data point graph would have)?
Hydro, I only hear crickets from that corner.
Submitted by UpNorth on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 8:55pm.
.
UpNorth
Submitted by hydrodynDM on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:13pm.
Given Giygas's assertion here that most "deniers" of AGW lack expertise in climate science, I can only assume that he's swimming in expertise and so could provide some answers to my questions about his own link.
Oh yeah, the good old
Submitted by UpNorth on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:19pm.
"concensus" argument.
I'm awaiting his trip back from Wiki, to expound on what you brought up.
By all means, if the pending
Submitted by ant on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 8:32pm.
By all means, if the pending 'crisis' is a priority for you, write out a check. I'm sure Al Gore has a mailbox somewhere around his mansion, heck, it's probably air-conditioned.
Maybe this will help you out,
Submitted by UpNorth on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:34pm.
Giggles.
Climate deniers?
Submitted by ckc1227 on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 3:33am.
I guess I missed something. Who are these people who deny the existence of climate?
"they claim the weather proves climate change is a hoax."
I must have missed something else. Who are these people who claim that climate doesn't change? Are they the same people who deny the existence of climate, or are they a different group altogether, or is there a little spillover between the two?
They should come up with a
Submitted by ant on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 6:43pm.
They should come up with a 'theft index'. The media could then report on how much you get paid to work, and how much your wages actually are, once you've been 'voluntarily' grifted by the State and Fed.
"Wow, I got paid 200. dollars but with the 'theft index' it feels like 70."
Well then, you outta check
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 2:10am.
Well then, you outta check out ol' Donkeyface Mahers' take on that 'revenue' situation.........because he sure as hell doesn't understand it!!!
Theft index................good idea!!! Why don't they just cut the crap and call it the 'confiscation factor???'
Minnesota's heat wave - before Al Gore was born.
Submitted by Gary Hall on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 7:28pm.
From Wikipedia - even Bill Maher's staff should be able to find this:
(;~> gary
Gary here is a chart I use, hummm no records broke once again
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 11:23am.
The following thermometers are in place..
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0001416.html
Some of these are tossed out.
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0113527.html
Don't want any New cold records set..
You Didn't Build That.
Hey up the country in a boat . .
Submitted by Gary Hall on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:55pm.
Well, some folks don't like those charts, do they. Too busy today, but check my memory. I counted the number of record state high temps on that once - those set prior to 1950, and those set after.
If I remember correctly, it was 33 prior to 1950 and 17 after 1950. Hmm, guess it getting warmer?
Cheers,
(;~> gary
absolutes
Submitted by sawing batta on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 7:33pm.
liberals hate absolutes....
this "formula" that inflates heat and deflates cold is so much more advantageous to the global warming, scratch that, global climate change bs.....
It gets hot in the summer
Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 8:04pm.
It was hot last summer, and it will be hot next summer, too.
Go figure.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
They don`t try that in the
Submitted by Pinetree3 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 8:38pm.
They don`t try that in the winter. If they give the wind chill temp., they tell us it`s the wind chill temp.
How must limp-wrist Maher feel...
Submitted by ChrisNH on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 8:56pm.
...knowing that nothing he says or does will reverse the downward spiral that is his beloved Lib-rul-ism? Or the bludgeoning that his beloved Brick Obamo will take for years to come (never mind the next sixteen months)?
Maher might as well scope out some Manhattan skyscraper to jump from.
I'd pay to watch.
Fudging the numbers
Submitted by Richard.Halavais on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:43pm.
It's the liberal way. Remember 2+2=5 if it makes you feel better? Well,creating new numbers makes them feel better. They're not lying anymore they just have a new way of telling their false truth. 1984 described it perfectly.
It's 7 pm... and 106 degrees.
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:10pm.
Overnight temps (at my local) are expected to be 90 degrees...
You want heat... I'll show you heat! (LOL)
- Grump :o)
Hey, it's 22 straight days of
Submitted by Martin2717 on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 1:31am.
Hey, it's 22 straight days of at or above 100 degrees here in Dallas. The record is 42 straight in 1980. There's a very good change that by the end of this week, we'll end up in 2nd. This heat (with some humidity) is not that big of a deal to me. It's this hot here every summer. I'm sick of the local media whining about this every summer. They whine when it gets too cold, icy and snowy like it did during the week of the Super Bowl here. I love it when it gets really hot or cold. You're not going to have perfect weather all the time. Deal with it.
Climate Change: Bring it on!
Submitted by CobraMan on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:46pm.
Minnesota is the Land of 10,000 Lakes. Trust me, we're accustomed to hot, humid summers. As well as cold, dry winters, and just about every other climate possibility in between. The differences, from the dead of winter to the height of summer, can vary by over 120 degrees (and that's not including wind chills or heat indexes). The temperatures can, from north to south, can vary by up to 20 degrees, more if you're close to Lake Superior, on any given day.
Every year we see snow. Every year we see rain. Every year we see droughts. Every year we see floods. We see tornadoes, straight-line winds, torrential downpours, extended dry spells, massive snowfall, whiteout conditions. We see all of this, and more, EVERY SINGLE YEAR. We see see ice tearing our roads apart in the winter and we see them explode, literally, from the heat in the summer. We see storms move in to an area, the temperatures drop 10 to 20 degrees, massive amount of rain falls, the skies clear, and the temps quickly rise 20 degrees or more, but that increase is now accompanied by oppressive humidity, which spawns more thunderstorms, thus completing the cycle. The only thing we don't see are cyclones, hurricanes, but the storms that blow in from Lake Superior can be very extreme.
We have a saying: Don't like the weather? Wait a week and it'll change. So, climate change? Bring it on! We're ready for it! After all, we experience the worst of it, every single year. Visit Minnesota, the land of 10,000 climates.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
WAIT!!! I thought it was "the land of 10,000 Johnsons"
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:46pm.
Well, that's what they told me anyway, when I married one of them.
<edit> I even had the t-shirt.
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A lot to explore
Submitted by CobraMan on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:50pm.
10,000 Johnsons? Well there's a lot to explore in Minnesota, I guess.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
So THAT'S what Larry "Wide Stance" Craig
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:30pm.
was doing in Minneapolis. One of those Congressional fact-finding explorations no doubt.
Jer
Maher is a male c*nt.
Submitted by fatboy on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:01am.
Maher is a male c*nt.
Hey, watch your language
Submitted by goodone91 on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 2:14pm.
That was not called for.Indeed. As despicable as
Submitted by Free Stinker on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 2:15pm.
Indeed. As despicable as Maher is, we still have higher standards than Maher and his Lib cronies.
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What to expect Free*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 2:26pm.
When profanity is the extent of one's vocabulary then profanity will be present throughout that one's commentary. That's what happens when you are unable to get out of mom's basement.
The way you guys are
Submitted by MikeB on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:10am.
The way you guys are lollygaggin' with them picks and them shovels, you'd think it was a hunnert an' twennythree degrees. Cain't be more'n a hunnert an' fourteen!
(adapted from Blazing Saddles, so a huge hat tip to Mel Brooks)
What in
Submitted by Prisondog1776 on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 2:46am.
the wild world of sports is going on here" _Blazing Saddles LMAO
Maher's stupidity is on public display...................
Submitted by big.league.slider on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 1:09am.
Let's cut Maher some slack, and consider that maybe he misspoke about 123degF temperatures in Minnesota.
Maybe Maher meant 123degC. Oh wait, that's 253degF. All 10,000 lakes in Minnesota would have boiled off by now.
Maybe Maher meant 123degK. Oh wait, that's -238degF. All 10,000 lakes in Minnesota would be frozen solid by now.
Maybe Maher meant 123degR. Oh wait, that's -337degF. All of the greenhouse gasses like CO2 that cause global warming in Minnesota's atmosphere would be frozen and laying on the ground. I guess we could always pick the frozen CO2 up and toss it over the border into Canada. That would solve the problem.
HIs Day Is Done
Submitted by rammingspeed on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 1:17am.
People have long since caught on with this little turd. Only the most batsh*t crazy ones even watch him anymore. But he constantly needs to be exposed for the disinformer that he is. Good on ya NewsBusters for doing the necessary, pain-in-the-butt work, on Maher and all the rest.
Reporters are ignorant about weather
Submitted by nkviking75 on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 1:27am.
Rush is right, but not only about this heat wave. In the winter, wind chill values are often reported as though they are actual temperatures. Furthermore, when severe weather is going on, Watches and Warnings are often confused. It's not unusual to hear a network anchor claim a tornado warning will last for several hours for a large area, when in fact they should be saying tornado watch. (A watch means conditions are favorable for the development of severe weather, a warning is issued when severe weather is actually observed.) In short, most network news types are woefully ignorant about weather.
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Wind chill counts, don't it?
Submitted by SLUGGO on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 6:35am.
32 degrees isn't scary until the windchill makes it feel like -20. Same simple concept apparently misunderstood by the weather-warriors.
Sluggo
I don't care, it's bloody hot
Submitted by wiwf on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 8:25am.
I don't care, it's bloody hot right now.
Rush is bang on about the
Submitted by equusarts on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 9:01am.
Rush is bang on about the heat dome. I was reading a weather site and they were saying this dome of heat happens every few years-a VERY common anomily. The weather is always fluctuating but the left always jumps on anything they can to skew their "message". Facts don't mean much in a liberal world I've found.
The mere fact that progressives are touting these comedians as their new journalists....well, can I say more???
What is a common anomaly?
Submitted by SLUGGO on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 9:37am.
Is that like dehydrated h2o?
Sluggo
I'm confused. Does this mean
Submitted by Rusty Shackleford on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:19pm.
I'm confused. Does this mean this weather is not weather but climate? I get so confused because cold waves that blast through the country are considered temporary blips of weather... except if they bring lots of snow because climate change has caused the cold air to hold more moisture because it's warmer than it's supposed to be. Then all that water falls from the sky as snow because...uh... Global Warming will bring widespread droughts.
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I wonder what Mr. Billy was
Submitted by mattm on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 8:05pm.
I wonder what Mr. Billy was talking about when Minnesota was going through one of the coldest springs in recent history, just a couple of months ago... I wouldn't know, since I don't listen to idiots.
Rush should report the Temperature in Kelvin.
Submitted by Avitar on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 1:22am.
He could then report that the media is behind the curve on global warming becaus the temperature is actually well over 300 degrees.
The town of Kelvin is over
Submitted by ant on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 1:44am.
The town of Kelvin is over 300 degrees? Oh, those poor people! (sarc). Sorry, couldn't resist.
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