Democrat Mayor Threatens Reason's Nick Gillespie on 'Real Time': 'Want to Take it Outside?'
Reason TV's Nick Gillespie was threatened on HBO's "Real Time" by Mayor John Fetterman (D-Braddock, Pa.).
After Gillespie made a joke about Fetterman being mayor of the poorest town in Pennsylvania, the Mayor responded, "You want to take it outside?" (video follows with transcript and commentary):
BILL MAHER, HOST: I feel like the American worker has been conditioned to feel like there is no such thing as revenue. That's why this theory works that we can only do spending cuts. We can't have revenue because the American worker has seen no revenue increase for 30 years. His wages have been trashed.
NICK GILLESPIE, REASON TV: That’s not true. American workers, nobody's wages has been flat for 30 years. Our purchasing power is very good.
MAYOR JOHN FETTERMAN, (D -BRADDOCK, PENNSYLVANIA): I'm the mayor of the poorest town in Pennsylvania.
GILLESPIE: Well, you must be very proud.
FETTERMAN: No, again, you know, you want to take it outside? Geez.
MAHER: Whoa.
GILLESPIE: Yeah.
[APPLAUSE]
GILLESPIE: That’s why I’m carrying the pen.
MAHER: No, no, no, nobody's taking it outside.
Those that missed this program are likely thinking this exchange was caused by Gillespie's joke.
Not so. The popular Libertarian was wiping the floor with Fetterman, guest Donna Brazile, as well as host Bill Maher concerning raising the debt ceiling.
At every turn during this panel segment, Gillespie showed himself to be the only person in the room that was knowledgable on the subject, while his three opponents responded with vapid Democrat talking points lacking any substance or proximity to the truth.
This appeared to be making Fetterman a bit hot under the collar, and Gillespie joshing about him being the mayor of the poorest town in Pennsylvania was obviously the last straw.
In the end, Gillespie proved the old axiom: be careful presenting facts to a liberal for it's guaranteed to enrage him.
Nice job, Nick! Bravo!
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Oh yes, libs are intolerant to the max
Submitted by merly1 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:31am.
Our family's annual reunion was also wrecked by the libs present first bringing up politics
then quickly heading into their screaming fbomb rants that left some in tears. These people
have no maturity to intelligently discuss the issues, likely brought on by the utter failure
of "their guys" in recent years. Still, they cant even have civilized discussions........
Nice
Submitted by GregE on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:09pm.
Notice what is happening in America. Politicians, pushing agenda to bring this nation to create a welfare state and bring this nation to its knees, having put Americans against each other while the politicians continue to feed that uncivil discourse. People literally defending politicians as someone insulted their mother. Even amongst family, as you've stated. It's like some type of king sitting up on a throne, bringing in people from two sides and announcing....."Now Fight!!".......and the fight begins while the king sits and watches for his enjoyment.
Liberals want that welfare state, and unknowingly they also are wanting the demise of the great America that changed the entire world for the better.
Now THAT"S Funny! "Political
Submitted by jessieH on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 2:15pm.
Now THAT"S Funny! "Political Correctness!
More on Fetterman
Submitted by pat_henry on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:25am.
Here's a longer "interview" with Fetterman on Colbert.
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/219748/february-2...
Typical Keynesian crap: government money corrects low productivity. AND Fetterman joined Americorp after college. You know, that public service org founded by Clinton to procreate a generation of "community organizers". Lord knows we don't have enough of those.
Well, for a mayor
Submitted by bkeyser on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:42am.
he certainly presents himself well. And Nick's not a big guy, I hope Fatterman wasn't hungry.
Tolerant "Liberals"
Submitted by iveseenitall on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:55am.
It was just a joke. After all, the mayor is a "liberal" Democrat--and we all know "lberals" simply can't be intolerant or racist or nasty or immature or angry or vicious, or resentful or revengeful or sneaky or mendacious---it's not in them. Conservatives , all of 'em, on the other hand...
P.S. Can you imagine living in this bully's town and daring to disagree with him? He probably has two SEIU enforcers with him at all times.
NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal" (progressive)
I wouldn't call it a threat.
Submitted by gadropout on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:59am.
I wouldn't call it a threat. It was an invitation to fight. Either way, it was uncalled for.
This shouldn't surprise anyone
Submitted by Rhymes With Right on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:11am.
It is part of the "new civility" introduced on Maher's show last week -- you know, when guests proposed sexual assault and/or genocide against Republicans. This clown was just trying to convert the Maher-endorsed hate speech into action.
Just in case
Submitted by han_solo on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:28am.
The whole episode is on pirate bay in case your a HBO subscriber and just happen to forget to set your DVR:
Just search piratebay for "Real Time With Bill Maher plus Overtime 2011 07 22 Mini x264"
Mayor Fatass of Thugtown...
Submitted by JPTSO3 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:49am.
Ah, the thug mentality of progressives...If reality interferes with the narrative threaten.
But really, what's the threat? - Would Mayor Fatman sit on Gillespie? I'd pay to see fatman chase Gillespie around a parking lot for about 30 seconds and he wouldn't be able raise his hands or he'd have a coronary. He makes Chris Christie look like a bantamweight. He makes Michael Moore look anorexic. Who begins a discussion with admitting to your worst quality? It's like showing up to job interview with a bank and admitting you're a thief.
Did anyone notice Mayor Fatass has the zip code of his town, tattooed on his arm? Is that in case, when he drops dead from a heart attack, the paramedics will know where to send his 500 lbs of dead lard?
He's probably a member....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 2:27pm.
of the Democratic Mayors Union, Local oi-812.
And, that's not the zip of his town, it's HIS zip......I knew a guy that was so fat (how fat was he?) he had his own zip code!
When you don't have. . .
Submitted by rickbren on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:46am.
the truth, ASSAULT! ". . .while his three opponents responded with vapid Democrat talking points lacking any substance or proximity to the truth."
Don't worry. Maher will be comparing the Norwegian bomber...
Submitted by gopcongress on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:47am.
Don't worry. Maher will be comparing the Norwegian bomber to Michele Bachmann / Sarah Palin next week, and discussing the involvement of the Tea Party / Haliburton cartel with his four guests.
"The news and truth are not the same thing." -Walter Lippmann (1889-1974) FOLLOW ME ON TWITTER
I prefer my mayors with gang tats. Doesn't everyone?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:49am.
.
Maher Lies.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:52am.
I already covered this lie in the woodshed.
How Laffer, Free-markets, and conservative economic policies have made the middle class stronger.
Table H-3. Mean Household Income Received by Each Fifth and Top 5 Percent, All Races: 1967 to 2008 in 2008 CPI-U-RS adjusted dollars.
Lowest Quintile - From $10722 in 1980 to $11656 in 2008
2nd Quintile - From $26687 in 1980 to $29517 in 2008
3rd Quintile - From $44037 in 1980 to $50132 in 2008
4th Quintile - From $64877 in 1980 to $79760 in 2008
Final Quintile - From $115675 in 1980 to $171058 in 2008
Done. Looks like everyone in the United States is a winner. Not just the middle class.
Know how Nick feels..
Submitted by caambers on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:15pm.
Recently at a friend's house I was introduced to a Brit living here now and the conversation went from the recent royal nuptials to politics. Actually it started when he made a denigrating remark about 'rednecks', obviously unaware of the various origins of that moniker which aren't racist at all yet believing the stereotype that a redneck must naturally be an inbred, bigoted moron of southern heritage. I announced proudly that I was a redneck. My ancestors were all farmers known for giving their excess to people who didn't have enough and not a white sheet in the entire lot. And I'll stack my education up against any of the literati. So it was that every progressive talking point was batted down until the inevitable...HE decided HE didn't want to discuss politics anymore. They only thing that would have made it better is if he had called me a nazi while storming out of the room. I felt cheated.... Liberalism is a mental disease characterized by petulant name-calling, weird fact-twisting, and the inability to think logically. The poster child is Barack Hussein Obama. To all the posters here who've had such encounters, keep fighting. Our silence and letting the progressives control the narrative has allowed this downward spiral. We have a voice and we have facts. Game on.
Why is it that liberals never
Submitted by Kenyon Schraeder on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 12:16pm.
Why is it that liberals never preach "living within one's means"? They continually blame anyone else for why they do not have or why they cannot afford or why they cannot get.
I begrudge no one their money as long as it was obtained legally and I do not demand nor do I expect that they "share" any of their money with me. We all pay our fair share AS DEFINED BY THE IRS. If there are loopholes that give someone an unfair advantage, is it their fault for taking full advantage of those loopholes or that of the IRS for allowing those loopholes to exist?
I only care about what is rightfully mine, what I've worked for, what I've saved, etc. Don't put your hand in my pocket and you won't lose any fingers in the process.
If the American worker HAS
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 1:06pm.
If the American worker HAS been conditioned to believe that there is no such thing as revenue - then it's easy to understand WHY they think that the damn government spends too much!!! Because that 'too much' is coming out of THEIR 'revenue!!!!
Jeez.............has ol' Donkeyface EVER made any sense???
As for this mayor guy..........the poor people of his township must be pretty proud of him, huh??? Apparantly Moooooooooochelle hasn't gotten him into the woodshed yet and talked to him about diet, but I'm sure that the people he surrounds himself with look and dress very similiar to him.
Yeah, killa
Submitted by bkeyser on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 1:22pm.
wtf does that mean anyway? "Conditioned to believe there is no such thing as revenue"? Is he trying to say that American workers refer to what progressives call government "revenue" by the more appropriate term "taxes"? Or is he saying that American workers generally don't believe that revenue exists in economics? In business? In households? It's funny. I looked up "revenue" on dictionary.com.
Yet further down the page they have this:
Nice example of how liberal politics has altered the meaning of a word to better suit their purposes, and yet here's Maher saying that American workers (whom he surely equates only with unionized workers) don't believe the the concept exists. Or maybe he doesn't think American workers believe the word exists. I don't know. I can't find any logic at all in his statement. Nonsensical raving.
Yeah, BK...........to people
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 1:34pm.
Yeah, BK...........to people like you and me, 'revenue' is probably thought of as the amount of money that we earn, make, generate, bring home............however you want to describe it. To the government, 'revenue' is what they can tax, asses, charge, take, steal, borrow, confiscate, print, etc..............So maybe Donkeyface actually swerved into an honest statement - although I'm sure that he wasn't trying to!!!! Is that called a 'gaffe'???
I think what the American worker HAS been conditioned to is the fact that the governement MUST keep increasing their spending to survive...........and when these complete and totally hopeless idiots talk about 'shared sacrifice', they AREN'T talking about doing it themselves!!!
Well, it was a snarky comment
Submitted by balboa on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 1:32pm.
Well, it was a snarky comment by Gillespie. I can see why Fetterman might have been irked.
Hey, the guy CLAIMED that his
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 1:36pm.
Hey, the guy CLAIMED that his city was the poorest in Pennsylvania!!!! I"d call that a 'snarky' comment - especially if I lived there and this guy was my mayor!!!
He was going to make a larger
Submitted by balboa on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 1:41pm.
He was going to make a larger point, it seems, but was cut off. It wasn't, "I'm the mayor of the poorest town, now everyone pile on."
What point would that be?
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 1:47pm.
Does he love cop killers as much as you? Still waiting the tiniest shred of evidence 2 convicted cop killers, tried, convicted, and sentenced by a jury of 12 people, their peers, convicted BEYOND ALL DOUBT of their crimes.
You, the cop killer lover, that man that said you wanted to kiss them both on the day they were released from prison. Still waiting for you to come up with the tineist shred of evidence either one is innocent.
Cop Killer lover.
Screw you.
Larger point. Ha! His
Submitted by fitzfong on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 4:08pm.
Larger point. Ha! His original statement speaks for itself. Never occurs to the incompetent creep that the reason it's the poorest town is that he's the mayor.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
Well that's not really fair.
Submitted by balboa on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 7:06pm.
Well that's not really fair. We have no idea what he thinks are the reasons why his town is so poor. And his original statement, it's clear, was incomplete because he was interrupted.
(sidebar: is he the same guy who's whole town is built on a landfill? Seems like I saw something about this)
Balboa, you're bothered by a
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 7:19pm.
Balboa, you're bothered by a snarky comment on a political TV show? Huh. I guess there's a first time for everything. As for him being interrupted, I guess we conservatives are used to it, since it happens to conservative guests all the time.
CN, I'm not bothered by it.
Submitted by balboa on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:19pm.
CN, I'm not bothered by it.
Re: interruption: really? You're going with that line of logic?
Yet, you noted that his
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:51am.
Yet, you noted that his comment was snarky, which you implied was the reason behind Baby Huey's threat to fight the guy. You minimize our objections to snarkiness on your vaunted Daily Show as just "humor". As for interruptions, what "logic" was I using? I was merely noting that liberals talk over conservative guests all the time
I noted it as snarky to
Submitted by balboa on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 8:56pm.
I noted it as snarky to demonstrate why the mayor took offense, not me. The Daily Show has nothing to do with this, totally different venue / type of show.
Logic: you wanted to justify Gillespie's interruption by saying "Well you guys do it, too!"
I'm not sure about the
Submitted by fitzfong on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 8:46pm.
I'm not sure about the landfill thing. But, seriously, bal, what purpose is served by flying this guy out to LA to appear as a pseudo-celebrity mayor? He's the chief executive of a town nobody outside PA has heard of...meaning that unless this guy was seeking celebrity (and judging by his Jesse Ventura/"fish out of water" affectation, he was), Bill Maher would likely never have heard of him, either. If you're a relative nobody who gets ushered out to California as an "authority figure" to lecture the rest of the country about politics on a comedy show, you better be a success in your job. Otherwise, you open yourself up to the understandable ridicule that comes from dining out on the reputation of "running" the poorest town in Pennsylvania.
"I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered." -George Best
When they say "revenue" they
Submitted by jessieH on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 2:18pm.
When they say "revenue" they mean taxes. Some Mator you got there, Pennsylvania.......
When you hear someone call for "a national discussion"...
Submitted by Rackie on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 2:48pm.
...about anything, run, hide, grab a gun. What they mean is "we're gonna shut you up".
Nick just exposed the fatal
Submitted by guein on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 4:07pm.
Nick just exposed the fatal flaw in Libertarian reasoning...you can't use reason to convince un-reasonable people. But, I applaud his efforts.
That's It, Exactly.
Submitted by Tenebrous on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 4:18pm.
I'm slowly coming to embrace the position that there are only three ways to deal with liberals: humiliate them with satire/sarcasm, pray for them, or use psychoanalysis to expose them. Logic alone does not work and they do not understand it.
Visions and Principles blog
Reason.tv and reason.com are very informative websites.
Submitted by Rush Fan on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 4:18pm.
For example, here is a VIDEO of economist and Reason/BloombergTV commentator and economist Veronique de Rugy explaining some of the myths put forth by the Obama regime and the liberal media regarding the debt ceiling.
I can't stand Maher, but to his credit he does have guests from our side on his panel. Tattooed Mayor Fetterman is a perfect example that appearances can be deceiving. Fetterman has a masters degree in Public Policy from Harvard University.
I grew up somewhat near Braddock, Pennsylvania, and am familiar with why Braddock and so many other former steel towns in Pennsylvania and Ohio are so destitute. You can blame it on the unions. I worked as a Steelworkers Union member in the steel mills after high school, and union wages were exorbitant, way beyond wages in non-union sectors. You know the rest of the story. Competition feventually outsourced steel making to China and other countries.
Veronica is outstanding! ns
Submitted by Noel Sheppard on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 4:21pm.
Veronica is outstanding! ns
Rush Fan
Submitted by Par for the Course on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 5:27pm.
Rush Fan
Thought I'd add to the rest of the story.
I know a retired Steelworker union member who had told me that the PBGC had taken over Bethlehem Steel's pension responsibilities. I remember looking it up at the time and found this:
I was amazed when I saw the plan was only 45 percent funded at the time PBGC took it over.
Par...Thanks for the information. It's my understanding that
Submitted by Rush Fan on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:30pm.
many steel companies were in bed with their unions. The unions negotiated very high wages and benefits, in exchange for permitting the companies to move their funding obligations down the road. Steel employees were told that they didn't have to save for retirement, because the company would take care of them.
Speaking of Bethlehem Steel, I came across two articles that might interest you. The first article is from the Baltimore Sun dated 1998 and titled Beth Steel gets back on solid ground Company's unfunded pension liability nearly eliminated. The second article at The Motley Fool website dated 2005 is titled Your Incredible Vanishing Pension, and discusses briefly the downfall of Bethlehem Steel and PBGC's handling of the company's retirement obligations. As you may know, once the PBGH takes over, retirees are rarely made whole.
I live in California, and California Democrats who run this state are in bed with the public employee unions. California's unfunded pension liability is over $500 Billion, California taxpayers are legally obligated to pay that enormous debt. I guess once the state drains me of my assets to pay for these obligations, I'll have to sell my blood.
Typical liberal immaturity
Submitted by gmaniac1 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 5:49pm.
when they don't get their way and are getting humiliated publicly they resort to personal insults and violence.
Lookin' Good
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 6:19pm.
When you're the "poorest town" in a state, I suppose it's a good thing to be represented on national television by a mayor who has made himself look like a Baby Huey thug. No, not really.
Chris....Baby Huey thug? You want to take it outside
Submitted by Rush Fan on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 7:38pm.
and say that? :-) ♥♥ ♥♥
He looks like he belongs
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:53am.
He looks like he belongs outside. :)
So Fatterman is "mayor" of
Submitted by Jack Bauer on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 7:48pm.
So Fatterman is "mayor" of the poorest town in America.
Only in America is FAT associated with poor.
No FAT poor people in any 3rd world crap-hole.
All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
Very astute observation,
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 8:17pm.
Very astute observation, JB...........I've been in some pretty poor places in Asia and Indonesia, and you don't see obesity or corpulence there. (How do you like my fifty-cent words???) But here.........well, you've seen it - there's a lot of cellulite and cottage-cheese jiggling around the 'poor' sections of town,that's for sure.
Is Michael Moron poor??? He sure as hell looks like a typical American 'poor' person!!! I'm sure the Cubans were mystified by this tub'a'lard............and I doubt if there's a lot of fatsos down there either.
killa -- thanks! It's a
Submitted by Jack Bauer on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 6:15am.
killa -- thanks!
It's a HISTORICAL FACT that being FAT or rotund has always been a wanted sign that a person is WEALTHY and amongst the elite.
One simply has to look at Rubens or Rembrandt's paintings (and many others) to understand that.
It takes AMERICA to make FAT and corpulent to mean POOR.
All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
Why any conservative wastes
Submitted by RealVet on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 8:56pm.
Why any conservative wastes time going on this piss poor excuse for a talk show is beyond reason.
Braddock PA is a cesspool filled with drug dealers, crack whores, empty collapsing houses, crooked cops, and other morons who look just like the mayor. It's basically a suburb of Pittsburgh on the muddy Monongahala river. There's a broken down steel mill there and the only hospital within the town limits closed up shop last year. Just like a dozen other cities, labor unions ran the entire area for years - literally into the ground. And if you're reading this "Mr. Mayor", hell yes, I'll make the 75 mile trip to "take it outside" with you. I guarantee you it won't turn out like you think it will.
Sounds like Detroit on the Monongahala.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:04pm.
.
Or, Pontiac,
Submitted by UpNorth on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:15pm.
Flint, Saginaw and Bay City.
Isn't that tub'o'lard Moron
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:16pm.
Isn't that tub'o'lard Moron from Flint??? Didn't he do some psuedo - 'documentary' on how the evil Big Auto wrecked the place??
Yeah, he did, and left out
Submitted by UpNorth on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 1:19pm.
any mention of the UAW in his schlockumentary. It was called "Roger and Me".
Or the fact that Flint was, is, and unless they go bankrupt, will be a union/dem town.
Flint, and Detroit are in the vanguard of a new wave of liberal "thinking" about urban areas. If the houses get foreclosed, and the businesses flee because of low sales and high taxes, the simple solution is to tear down the houses and businesses and set up community gardens, or just weed infested fields. Still looks better, I guess, than the acres of burnt-out houses currently making the rounds of internet, comparing Detroit to Hiroshima.
RealVet.....I'm from that part of the country, and your
Submitted by Rush Fan on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:22pm.
synopsis is sadly accurate. However, you might want to reconsider taking Mayor John Fetterman 'outside." In my younger day, I considered myself somewhat proficient in matters like that, but I made every effort to avoid encounters with opponents like Fetterman, who stands 6 ft 8 in and weighs 350 lb.
Good Observation
Submitted by RealVet on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 12:30pm.
Point taken. Don't know this for a fact, but I Also heard he surrounds himself with gangbanger bodyguards. I too used to be very "proficient" in the arts, but I'm just an old guy in poor health now. It sure would be fun to watch him pant & sweat though. LOL. Go Bucs!
Oh, I dunno . . .
Submitted by ConservaSerb on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 1:21pm.
Take out fatty-turd's knee and he crumples like a cheap shithouse.
From Wikipedia:
The town of Braddock, a suburb of Pittsburgh, was founded around the site of Andrew Carnegie's first steel mill, the Edgar Thomson Steel Works in 1873, as well as the first Carnegie library, and developed with the local steel industry.[1] In the 1920s, the town was more densely-populated than Brooklyn, New York City. In the mid-1940s the town had around 20,000 residents. With the decline of the steel industry in the 1970s, many of the residents moved elsewhere in search of work, and other businesses failed. In the impoverished urban environment, street gangs such as the Crips became popular.[2] The population dropped to below 3,000 in 2009. In 2008, the average house value was $6,200, and 300 within the borough were vacant.[1][3] The town had just two operating stores.[4] While the steel mill still operates 24 hours a day, it employed just 560 people in 2010, compared to more than 5,000 at one point.[5]
A wise & frugal government, which shall leave men free 2 regulate their own pursuits of industry & improvement, & shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government. T. Jefferson
RealVet......Sorry to hear about your poor health. Hope your
Submitted by Rush Fan on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 5:36pm.
health improves. Us old guys have to be especially careful about our health.
regards,
rush fan
The Bigger they are,,
Submitted by NJRightWinger12 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 9:40pm.
the Harder they fall-Id take his fat ass on-I always fought bigger guys. If he cant have a simple debate, and has to resort to violence, than so be it! Funny, the libs are always the LAST ones who want the country to go to war when its threatened, tho!
In a straight line Braddock,
Submitted by WarEagle66 on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 10:21pm.
In a straight line Braddock, Pa. is about 15-17 miles from me. It is a complete Piece O' you know what town. It is a dead town. Completely DEAD. It used to be a steel town. There is nothing there now....nothing but drugs and crime.
"Revenue"
Submitted by Junk Science Skeptic on Sat, 07/23/2011 - 11:46pm.
Has anybody else noticed the coordinated left wing effort over the past few weeks to recast "taxes" as "revenue," trying to equate the taxes levied by the gov't, to revenue EARNED by businesses.
It's like some (journo)list of people were getting the same talking points fed to them by the White House.
This is especially vexing when one considers that these same people have never understood the difference between "rates" (the price charged, using a business analogy) and "revenues" (the total amount collected) in the tax system.
The left persists in the child-like belief that simply raising rates will guarantee a proportional increase revenues, and that cutting rates guarantees a proportional decrease in revenues.
While it might be asking too much to expect lefties to understand simple economic concepts like price elasticity, the everyday example provided by retail coupons, price discounts and sale events bringing in higher total revenues to a retailer is simple enough for the typical eight-year-old to understand.
Of course if lefties understood (or accepted) the historical facts of U.S. tax history, they'd also know that raising rates has never succeeded (Wilson, FDR, Carter, Obama) in significantly raising gov't revenues as a percentage of GDP, while there are multiple examples (Coolidge, Kennedy, Reagan, Bush 43) of rate cuts resulting not in decreased revenue, but in improved GDP growth and increased gov't revenue.
A possible response to this libbo-tub-o-lard
Submitted by ConservaSerb on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 1:23pm.
"Sure, just give me a chance to make it a fair fight. Let me go out and find another 6'8, 380 pound tub o shit and the two of you can go at it like twins fighting over a drumstick."
Or . . . "Take it outside? Why, what a great idea! That's where I leave all my garbage! But I've never had mine offer to take itself outside before. Thanks, please, by all means. Go."
A wise & frugal government, which shall leave men free 2 regulate their own pursuits of industry & improvement, & shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government. T. Jefferson
A better response ...
Submitted by NL207 on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 1:23pm.
Introduce him to Chuck Norris.
The "New Civility"
Submitted by Free Stinker on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 2:18pm.
The "New Civility" . . .
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
My dad was a---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 5:01pm.
Golden Gloves weight class winner, and a bar fighter, as well.
He told me that any guy who says "You wanna take this outside?', really didn't want to go outside and fight.
A scrapper would just nail you with a punch without any preliminary jawing around; if that first one didn't take you out, then the fight was on.
MD
Priceless!
Submitted by bahiabob on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 7:16pm.
Maher is a jackwagon of the first idiocy. Revenue implies it was income that was EARNED though labor or services and paid for in wages or contractual fees. The Government doesn't EARN any REVENUE. The Government COLLECTS TAXES and that is the source of Federal, State and Local government income. Also, Leftie Mayor Porky FETTERMAN needs to take some Prozac and stop eating his own citizens.
The bullet is mightier than a punch.
Submitted by Hausmaus on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 8:06pm.
Yeah, you might be able to shake me around a few, may be whack me across the jaw one time, and leave me feeling like I been through a blender. But, if you can't manage to put my lights out completely, I carry a concealed weapon called 357 Magnum that will do wonders to somebody's face and body.
Memo From Maher: Don't Put Nick Gillespie on My Show Again
Submitted by WhatTheHuh on Sun, 07/24/2011 - 8:43pm.
Take it outside? Really? That guy has to be a Democrat. Only Dems would put a lout like that in office. This is the ypical response from a Lib when confronted with the facts. They either personally attack you or threaten you (see Unions). The other clip of Gillespie asking Maher if he would give up his two cars or even his show to reduce his carbon footprint was also classic. The "Duh" look on Maher's face said it all.
Sounds like Fetterman is the
Submitted by Beukeboom on Mon, 07/25/2011 - 10:02am.
Sounds like Fetterman is the type of guy who threatens people to fights and when the person he challenges declines goes back to his people claiming how tough he was.
Anyone know of any post-Maher interviews the "Mayor" did back home where he talked about his appearance on Maher's show? If so, please provide any links.