Scarborough Hits Palin Over the Head With Bachmann's Success

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It seems no matter what Sarah Palin does or doesn't do, she's going to be lambasted by America's press - even the supposedly "conservative" ones.

On Tuesday's "Morning Joe," co-host Joe Scarborough used Republican presidential candidate Michele Bachmann's successful campaign launch as a means of bashing the former Alaska governor (video follows with transcript and commentary):

JOE SCARBOROUGH, HOST: And what a contrast, Andy, with Sarah Palin. And there’s going to be this contrast for some time. Of course, Sarah Palin’s people now are conducting outreach to Iowa activists. She obviously can’t love what’s happening with Michele Bachmann. But just think: had Sarah Palin a year ago surrounded herself with professional handlers where, not to tell her what to say or how to act, but, but to stop her from doing some self-destructive things. It’s like when Roger Ailes, who runs Fox News and knows a little bit about these things. Roger Ailes said, “Don’t put out that thing on Facebook after Gabby Giffords (unintelligible)." She ignored Roger, and she paid for ignoring Roger. She doesn’t listen to people. Michele Bachmann does, and it makes a difference.

First off, why do people in the media - even the supposedly "conservative" ones - think Palin isn't happy with Bachmann's success? Doesn't this assume she's going to toss her hat into the ring and therefore sees the Minnesota Congresswoman as a competitor?

If the opposite is true, and Palin has no intention of running next year, at least not for president, she might be thrilled with Bachmann's success. She could be exuberantly cheering her fellow Tea Partier on as Bachmann likely more closely echoes Palin's conservative views than most of the other Republican presidential candidates that have announced.

As I like so many observers believe the former Alaska governor is not going to run and instead is biding her time to not only have some influence over the 2012 platform but also to decide who she's going to throw her support behind, it is quite possible in the coming months we're going to see these two ladies on the same stage with one quite happily endorsing the other.

As such, Scarborough and his compatriots in the media on both sides of the aisle gleaning some de facto competition between these women are making an assumption that could be tremendously false.

As for Ailes recommending Palin not respond to the Tucson shootings, does that mean he was right?

People all throughout the liberal press were blaming the former vice presidential candidate for Giffords' shooting. Should she really have stayed quiet and not defended herself?

The idea that Palin's response to that incident hurt her is largely in the minds of her detractors who will attack her no matter what she says or does.

At this point in time, is there really anything this woman could do that would get the approval of folks like Scarborough and his colleagues?

Beyond which, why do the press see Bachmann and Palin as being tied at the hip? Does every action by one have bearing on the other?

Fortune magazine editor Andy Serwer pointed this out to Scarborough. There is indeed an odd sexism going on here that presumes that every discussion about Bachmann has to involve Palin and vice versa.

Until the moment that Palin actually does enter the race, can't these women be judged independently, or is that asking too much?

Wow Joe

You and the rest of your liberal compadres trying the old divide and conquer routine.Trying to sew seeds of division.Obvious as a liberal it is in your best interest but save it for your DU buddies.They are on your mental playing field and will swallow it.

Question for Scarborough:

Did you ever hit Hillary Clinton over the head with Obama's success?

Galvanic

Joe would never do that to a fellow liberal.

Also

Joe only attacks women. He's Heterophobic.

President Obama is a Muslim (from his own lips), Kenyan (read it from his publicist) a homosexual (read it on a news magazine cover) and a Socialist (I'm alive and can see it for myself)

Tugboat

He still would get his butt whooped.I prefer the old psychology term.Horse's a$$.Then again my psych class might have been a little different then others.

A great

question. Don't hold your breath for that one though.

hbnolikeee

I would vote for a talking parrot

No matter who the R's pick, Obama is still an idiot.

Americans keeping their own earnings is a Civil Right! Demand your Civil Rights!

I would vote for

a large pile of turds.

hbnolikeee

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Nothing like trying to get

Nothing like trying to get cheap advertising on message boards...

Goddard's Law -- Palin edition.

I thinks there should be a revision of Godard's Law written exclusively for Sarah Palin, and it should go something like this:

The longer the thread of any post on any board, the probability increases towards 100% that Palin will somehow be brought into the discussion.

Call it DumnCanuck's law. I claim dibs, but I'll welcome other name suggestions.

Closer to a revision to Godwin's Law

Goddard's Law seems to deal with face-to-face discussions devolving into talk of penguins. Godwin's Law deals with the online thread discussions and actually, once the Libs bring Palin into the discussion it is very easy for the dimwits to fully realize the Law and end it by bringing in Hitler.

Excellent post no matter which Law gets cited.

"Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."

I agree that Sarah Palin is the type of person who would be

happy for and support Bachmann's success? I also agree that Sarah Palin is unlikely to run.

As to why the press see Bachmann and Palin as being tied at the hip? The answer is that they are both attractive, conservative and strong women, a combination that the leftist media believes can beat their candidate; therefore, they are the worse traits for someone on the right to have.

Mark Levin discussed why the leftist media attack conservative women like Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin on his radio show yesterday.

I think Palin is going to

I think Palin is going to tip-toe around whether or not she's going to run for as long as possible.

Bal

I agree. I think she is going to run, but until she announces she is being and will continue to be very coy about it.

And any time she's questioned

And any time she's questioned about it she'll say she's not gonna let the gotcha media force her to make a decision when she doesn't want to.

balboa

As it should be.Would you let the media decide for you?Since you had a Zoo named after you all you have to do is run for office and you can get a library with your name on it.Do like Rangel and Pelosi and pork will pay for it.

Zing !

Zing !

Let's you and her fight!

First off, why do people in the media - even the supposedly "conservative" ones - think Palin isn't happy with Bachmann's success?

I think this is a case of the press trying to say "Let's you and her fight!".    Liberals never say "Let's you and me fight!", unless they somehow have the odds stacked in their favor.

I see sexual tension between Joe and Mika...

Mika is such a looker...who could blame Joe for hitting that? I mean you can look at Joe and tell he isn't the brightest bulb in the bunch and therein lies the problem...which head does he think with when both are relatively small. Meanwhile back at the ranch....Obama's poll numbers are in big decline and he loses to "Republican Unknown"...."Hey Joe" play "Tobacco Road"...you are a moron...and Mika looks like her dad in drag.

T.S.

Wow! Joe is a liberal?

That's hilarious!

As for Bachmann and Palin, they say some really dumb things. You can say all politicians on both sides have their gaffes, but these two are like bug zappers with the media bugs attracted to them. We all sit back and watch the "zzzzt" and blue flash. We are all mesmerized by the blue bug zappers and waiting for the next blue flash!

Ernst

"Isn't it pretty to think that way?"-EH

E.S.Blofeld =~ /Troll/

Do Not Feed The Troll

Ummmm...no

The blue bug zappers (Bachmann/Palin) kill the bugs (media)...reread it.

I think they say some dumb things, no big deal. Their hearts are in the right place at least. No problem there....

Ernst

"Isn't it pretty to think that way?"-EH

Sorry but I have to do it..................

OF COURSE HE IS! He was a Rino in congress and when you go to work for MSNBC they surgically remove any conservatism you have in you. Everyone says dumb things, your a prime example! JOE not a LIBERAL.... NOW THATS FUNNY

M-Matthews (and Joe... they take turns)
S-Sucking
N-Nimbly on
B-Barrys
C-C#%K

Liberals: No Morals, No Standards, NO Problem!

Jarhead*

I am sure you feel the need to express your anger. But doing so with vulgar profanity should not be done on a public forum. Please refrain.

Your right..................... wish I could remove it.....

thanks and nuff said

Liberals: No Morals, No Standards, NO Problem!

...especially when juxtaposed

...especially when juxtaposed with the tag line, "Liberals: No Morals, No Standards, NO Problem!"

What a moron.

Did you see the pages of stupidity uttered by your messiah? There is a copy out at this URL if you can read it.

The Gaff King

hbnolikeee

Gov. Palin has repeatedly

Gov. Palin has repeatedly stated that the more voices in the republican process the better, so she can't help but be thrilled that Bachmann is in the race. I can't believe any conservatives actually watch Morning Uncle Joe (Stalin's) show anymore. He is a joke.

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Let's Get Real

If we want to win in 2012, we have to be credible among the majority of the electorate. The reality is that Bachmann, Paul and , yes, even Gingrich are mature, convincing politicians with solid track records, strong social values and broad knowledge and judgement on both domestic and foreign matters. I don't think Pawlenty or Romney measure up to them. I think Bachmann will come out on top because she relates best to the majority of voters. Unfortunately, Palin is looked down upon by too many voters and I'm afraid that her desperate attempts to appear relevant will cause trouble for the eventual republican nominee. Palin should just go home, keep quiet and let Michele get the job done. What is certain is that Michele doesn't need Palin's comments, interference or support.

Palin makes "desperate attempts' to---

appear relevant?

Maybe you ought to get real there, reagonomics. (Shouldn't that be spelled reaganomics, if you revere the man?)

Ronald Maximus said something along the lines of the 11th Commandment being "Don't speak ill of the Party or it's members".

"Palin should just go home, keep quiet and let Michele get the job done."

With Republicans (?)  like you around, Palin doesn't need any enemies.

Are you at all aware of how beneficial Palin has been in an undeserved, unasked for position as a lightning rod for the Party?

It is NOT certain that that "Michele doesn't need Palin's comments, interference or support."

That is strictly your opinion.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)

So Much For The " Big Tent "

Let's win first and then worry about Palin's relevance. I'm for country first and party second. Are you?
In the old days when we had statesmen leading our party we won by landslides. If you push the likes of Palin into the forefront of our wonderful party, it will be "wait 'till 2016", which the country can't do.
Ideology only works around the kitchen table and at church picnics, not in winning elections. Palin's efforts only hurt Miller, Engel, O'Donnel and a slew of others while those she supported would have won without Palin around. And Palin cost McCain the election as millions of Hillary's supporters who didn't like Obama and were ready to vote republican ran back to Obama seconds after Palin's convention speech. Under the big tent, republicans have always welcomed opposing views. Palin never has. Go Michele !!

Nothing more, reagOnomics,---

than additional opinions.

Despite your efforts at trying to impress with such killer thoughts as " Ideology only works around the kitchen table and at church picnics, not in winning elections."

Your third to the last sentence tracks along the lines of wanting the GOP to be what you wish it to be, and your penultimate sentence reeks of Palin Derangement Syndrome.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)

Joe tries sooooooooo hard to

Joe tries sooooooooo hard to fit in. Sad. Palin stated she would run ONLY if she felt there wasn't anyone in the race who put forth her ideals. She's the perfect foil for taking the heat away and she knows it!!!

The government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Ronald Reagan

Let's give Joe a question!

Let's ask Joe Scarborough about the mysterious death of his political assistant (Lori Klausutis) in his Florida office! Was Lori his 'weiner' moment? A coverup waiting to be revealed. This will take him off the air for sure. For all the suspicious facts, try these for openers:
1. http://archive.democrats.com/preview.cfm?term=Joe%20Scarborough
2. http://www.americanpolitics.com/20010808Klausutis.html
3. http://flyingsnail.com/Dahbud/firejoescarborough.html

JMigyanka

Joe's Assistant's Death is such an Open Secret

Every time it's posted here, many people go "WTH?".

And yes...it is TRUE, she died under mysterious circumstances...and the "investigation" was less than thorough.

I've not check your links yet, JM....but I'll take a peek later. It's kind of an obscure topic.

Øbama’s Record since taking office:

• Poverty Rate: 14.3% ↑ 8.3%,
• Unemployment Rate: 9.1% (16.2%) ↑ 16.7%,
• Average Weeks Unemployed: 40.3 ↑ 102.5%,
• Median Income: $49,445 ↓ 5%,
• Health Insurance Premiums: $15,073 ↑ 18.9%,
• Number of Jobs: 139,627,000 ↓ 1.8%,
• Inflation Rate: 3.77% ↑ 12,466.7%,
• Food Stamp Usage: 45.2 Million ↑ 41.7%,
• Average Price of a Gallon of Gas: $3.66 ↑ 101.1%,
• Average Home Value: $171,900 ↓ 4.7%,
• National Debt: $14.7 Trillion ↑ 38.7%,
• Deficit: $1.28 Trillion ↑ 192.2%.

NO MORE TERMS for a COMMUNITY AGITATOR - EVER AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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JMigyanka

jmigyanka....Thanks for the info. Let me add a few more.

Comparison of Obama Administration to previous Bush Administration

  • Morality - ↓ 70%
  • USA Morale - ↓ 75.8%
  • Class Warfare - ↑ 99.7%
  • Chance of riots in cities - ↑ 65%
  • It's the law...

    dumbass! Same as the one oBama uses. Clinton uses. Soros uses. mIke mOore uses.

    JMigyanka

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