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MSNBC's Bashir Asks Tancredo: 'Would You Have Preferred Obama's Death Over Bin Laden's?'

By Noel Sheppard | May 10, 2011 | 18:17

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For the second time in less than 24 hours I find myself wondering how an American television "news" network could have assembled such a collection of ignoramuses.

After MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell Monday evening claimed the Founding Fathers would have understood the need to raise the debt ceiling in order to protect the country's credit rating, Martin Bashir on Tuesday actually asked former Republican Congressman Tom Tancredo if he would have preferred President Obama's death over Osama bin Laden's (video follows with transcript and commentary):

MARTIN BASHIR, HOST: In the wake of Osama bin Laden’s killing, I'd like to remind you of something you wrote in the Washington Times last July. You said, “Mr. Obama is a more serious threat to America than al Qaeda. We you know that Osama bin Laden and followers want to kill us but at least they are an outside force against whom we can offer our best defense. But when a dedicated enemy of the Constitution is working from the inside, we face a far more dangerous threat.”

Now, I know you're a political opponent of President Obama, but wasn't that a ludicrous thing to accuse the President of?

TOM TANCREDO, FORMER CONGRESSMAN (R-COLORADO): Well, I suppose you can phrase it that way because you would think of it that way, but I certainly don’t, millions of other people don't think it was ludicrous because of course the President of the United States as he said many times during his campaign is doing what he promised, and that is to fundamentally -- his quote, his exact words were, I am going to fundamentally transform America. Now, he said it on many occasions. His intent upon doing it, and what exactly does that mean? Well, I think we pretty much understand, he's got a low opinion of the Constitution. He's talked about that, too, about how it needs to be changed. The fact is that what he's done, and I'm very pleased about what has happened in Afghanistan. He's ordered an assassination. That is something that, of course, we would have just, oh, my gosh, if Bush had done something like assassinated somebody else, even Osama bin Laden, there would have been…

BASHIR: I don't think…

TANCREDO: Oh, you don't think it was an assassination?

BASHIR: No, I didn't say that. I think that the suggestion that President Bush would have been condemned for such a clean operation is unreasonable and unfair.

TANCREDO: He would have. Believe me. You would have been condemning it for an assassination. That's what you would have called it because of course it was that but we talked about during those days…

BASHIR: Sorry, Mr. Tancredo…

TANCREDO: …we continue to talk about how horrible it was. Any policy of assassination couldn’t be accepted. We accept it with Obama? That’s okay with me. We accept the idea of intimidation and coercive tactics…

BASHIR: If I may, if I may just…

TANCREDO: …to get the information with Obama. It’s okay with me.

BASHIR: If I may just for one moment.

TANCREDO: Yeah.

BASHIR: You were suggesting that I would have condemned President Bush…

TANCREDO: I am.

BASHIR: That's not able, that's not right. And also, you know, you're suggesting that there would have been condemnation of the Navy SEALs who executed that, but can I go back to your original quote if I may?

TANCREDO: Sure.

BASHIR: To follow your logic, would you have preferred then the death of the President as opposed to bin Laden?

TANCREDO: No. Of course not. My God. And that is not a logical assumption anybody can make.

BASHIR: Well, it is because…

TANCREDO: Only you would say a thing like that.

BASHIR: Mr. Tancredo.

TANCREDO: There was no logic. I never once suggested the President of the United States should be...

BASHIR: You said the president was a greater threat than Osama bin laden.

TANCREDO: …any violence should happen, any harm. And there is a way to deal with that here in the United States, and that is exactly what I hope to do and that is make sure he does not serve a second term. He's defeated at the polls. Not anything of a violent nature ever nor should I ever, nor would I suggest in a million years that that's some sort of tragedy should befall him.

BASHIR: Let's move on to, let's move on to immigration.

TANCREDO: I do not wish him harm the slightest bit of harm except political harm.

Once again I must ask: what do MSNBC's owners Comcast and General Electric think about this kind of a display from one of their employees?

Do these people think it's a fitting question to ask a former member of Congress if he would have preferred the death of a sitting president over what until nine days ago was public enemy number one?

Is there absolutely nothing these folks consider sacred?

Honestly, the more I watch of this network on a regular basis, the more sickened I am by everyone involved with it.

(H/T RCP via NBer Jane)

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and inside.... a tiny drop of poison

Submitted by MidAmerica on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 6:29pm.

Well MSNBC is connected to the 'Green' GE. GE is making lots of money selling those squirrelly shaped dim bulbs so I guess it's appropriate that their network reflect that product.

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I have to ask.

Submitted by mandrake on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 6:40pm.

What do you have against those "squirrely" shaped light bulbs? If they are more efficient then what is wrong with that? Or is your objection more ideological?

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What they are made of

Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 6:51pm.

They have a lovely little poison in them called "mercury" and if they break, they are to be treated as "hazardous material." You have to get a hazmat team to clean it up.

There are no such dangers with normal incandescent light bulbs.  There's no such thing as energy efficiency when combined with health hazards.

-Jon

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Mercury bulbs...

Submitted by adamsmith on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 7:11pm.

Mercury bulbs is my pet name for them. Someone should ask OwlBore how he feels about millions of mercury bulbs that will be leaking in all the landfills. Global Warming is Soros supported BS. Global Mercury Poisoning will be very real and very provable. Don't these Communist dirt bags ever learn?

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The mercury thing

Submitted by mandrake on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 7:27pm.

You know when I was young back in the 50's..you could buy mercury at your local hardware store. We used to play with it..It made dimes really shinny. Since then, I never got cancer nor did any of my children have birth defects..maybe the mercury thing is a bit overblown.

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I too used to play with mercury

Submitted by Richard.Halavais on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 7:41pm.

I well remember the 50's and all of us kids would play with mercury. Never had any bad effects and nobody else I know has either. Shiny dimes were all the rage. When commie, liberal politicians get a hold of something that will steal more of our money they hang on tight. The mercury scare is a good example.

Richard Halavais
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Dimwit,,, good grief

Submitted by Boudin on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 9:57pm.

So what, you used to play with it. So if you get fined for contaminating a property with it, you can go tell them how you used to play with it.

Here in LA it cost about $.48 a foot to get rid of "contemporary" florescent bulbs. More then the price of the bulbs. These bulbs loose efficiently after about 2000hrs, but now since the price of replacing them cost so much, where is the motivation to replace?

While your at it, tell em about the fridge you threw in the landfill!

Sick of this dimwitted crap!

Seek Truth, Defend Liberty
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they are less effecient

Submitted by dmacleo on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 7:12pm.

in most applications over the lifetime.

dmacleo http://www.theconservativevoices.com
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CFL's Unsafe at any speed.

Submitted by upcountrywater on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 8:06pm.

Fire...

Here’s a story that suggests that they can. Like any poorly manufactured or quality controlled product, failures can occur. But with CFL bulbs, there’s additional things that can go wrong over the simple and century long proven incandescent bulb.

You Didn't Build That.

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Efficient Is Not A Function.

Submitted by Avitar on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 8:39pm.

"Squirrely" shaped light bulbs do not do the job required. The light output listed for them is false in two aspects. First they take time to come to full output, as long as twenty minutes, and then their light output from them falls throughout their use. It varies but a GE bulb listed as having the light output of a 100 watt incandescent bulb will only have the light output of a 68 watt bulb and the light will fall by another 20% before the bulb burns out. The equivalence to a 100 watt incandescent comes from the difference in spectrum. Second,the "squirrely" shaped bulb puts out higher energy photons in the blue end of the spectrum outside of the visual range of many adults. In addition there is an association between Cataracts and the higher energy CFL used on submarines etc over the last fifty years. .
Last but not least the bulbs contain mercury and one breaking while on can take $1600 to clean up to make an area safe for small children. Larger brighter bulbs don't fit the harps of current lamps. These bulbs are the lead paint of our age.

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Green = Money

Submitted by IrateNate on Wed, 05/11/2011 - 10:02pm.

Try to forget the concept of "green" and consider the masterful manipulation by GE to force their compact fluorescent lights upon us. The first step was to close down factories in the US where "Edison" bulbs, made by highly paid union workers, could only be sold for less than a dollar apiece.

The next step was to set up manufacturing facilities in China, so that CFL's could be made for a fraction of the cost for labor and avoid EPA restrictions, and could be sold for around $4 apiece.

The lobbying efforts of Jeffrey Immelt to successfully outlaw incandescent bulbs and while having the government mandate the use of CFL's was a windfall for GE, and had absolutely nothing to do with energy efficiency or concern for our environment.

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Careful, Noel

Submitted by jon_torlin on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 6:29pm.

If you keep watching that, you'll develop a new disease that uses NBC as initials...

Nonsensical Brain Cancer.

Causes those symptoms you just started developing.

Bashir is just plain nuts to make implications like that, but as you suggest, nothing with these folks is sacred.  You hit the money on the head, it's GE which, like GM, went from General Electric to Government Electric.

-Jon

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Any Republican

Submitted by Marsh on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 6:32pm.

who goes on MSNBC deserves what they get. A total boycott is in order. Let's see who has the nerve.

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I disagree totally

Submitted by Tomorama on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 7:18pm.

Tancredo handled this absurdity just the way a Republican with some guts and wits would, he hammered the questioner and shoved it down his throat not angrily, but factually.

Go on these shows and expose the media, it GETS PLAY IN THE REAL WORLD (on the internet, thank you Al Bore) and others besides us see it and they start to say "WTF is up with the media".

FIGHT for your right to partyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

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Who is going to complain....?

Submitted by NeoKong on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 6:34pm.

The viewers of MSNBC...? That is why they watch. Complaining about the left wing lunacy to them would be like complaining to McDonalds that they serve hamburgers. It's what they sell.

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Tancredo's response to Bashir could have been..

Submitted by Gary Hall on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 7:15pm.

Tancredo's response to 'B ass hir' could have gone something like:

  • '..prefer the death of President Obama.'  What - are you looney? Look, you wise-ass jerk, I'm not like you and the rest of the foul mouth hate mongering intolerant bigots, here at MSNBC and their friends and associates, who have a bad habit of smearing others on a regular basis and often enough mouthing off and publicly wishing for the death of Republican Presidents, Vice-Presidents, and others. Frankly, I'm a bit surprised that the US Secret Service has not set up a full-time shop here at MSNBC/NBC - and at GE to investigate what is going on so that we can get you behind bars, where you belong.

Works for me, anyway.

(;~/ gary

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As far as I'm concerned...

Submitted by ProudAmerican58 on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 8:12pm.

"What kind of stupid-ass question is that?!" would have sufficed.

That's just my opinion; I could be wrong. -- Dennis Miller
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I think the words from

Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 05/11/2011 - 10:46am.

I think the words from General Russel Honoré (ret.) aimed at reporters post-Hurricane Katrina would have worked here as well: "You are stuck on stupid."

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Worser & Worser & Worser

Submitted by Caringwhiteguy on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 7:29pm.

The behavior of MSNBC hosts and guests has actually gotten worse since the departure of Keith Olbermann. Much that was on the edge is now way over the line. This must be the way NBC management wants to play the game. It is reprehensible. If you live in the Midwest like I do and have closely followed the outrageous behavior of public unions (especially in Wisconsin) you'll be able to see almost a perfect comparison between MSNBC's tactics and the thuggish behavior of the unions. No statement, no act is too low. This is downright scary. Scarier yet, they are just ramping up for the Presidential campaign. Much more to follow. These people are ruthless and relentless.

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I would have thought that by

Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 05/11/2011 - 10:37am.

I would have thought that by now Comcast would have placed more control over such nonsense on MSNBC shows after they took over from GE but apparently I was mistaken.

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Comcast is praying that they get the tax freedom GE has.

Submitted by upcountrywater on Wed, 05/11/2011 - 11:51am.

The hardly used "propaganda write-off" can be worth upwards of 14 billion a year.
Off setting the measly expense of a dingy studio in some rat infested city.

You Didn't Build That.

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Double Standards

Submitted by LSBeene on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 7:30pm.

Has Bashir, ever once, suggested that anyone who made violent comments about our military or President Bush from the anti-war (read: anti-Bush) crowd wanted the man dead?

When the left made a "parody" or "what if" movie about Pres. Bush being assassinated - did Bashir connect them to violent Jihad or asked left leaning politicians to weigh in on that?

Or Asked any questions, in a similar vein to Nancy Polosi when she replied to the man asking about the Constitutionality of her "Health Care" bill with "Are you serious?! Are you SERIOUS!?" - did he as her, her followers or supporters "Do you favor overthrowing our Constitionally based gov't"

I mean, I'm sure others here could just absolutely PILE ON the examples - the vitriolic hatred, race-baiting, sexist bigotry, side-steping of the law in favor of identity politics etc - and ask the simple question: When those happened ..... did Bashir ask those people or their supporters if they :

Wanted to "Kill Whitey" of black / brown race grievence mongers

Wanted to "Overthrow the gov't and replace the Constitution" of left wing radical progressives

Wanted to "Make one sided draconian anti-male laws" (errrr, more of them) of feminists

But .... errr, no

Only of one guy, whose instant reaction was one of vehement denial, but honest rejoinder that he wanted President Obama to fail politically.

Is it just me or is it THAT blatant?

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Osama or Obama?

Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 8:11pm.

Is it too late to vote?

Comrade Bubba
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Wow.

Submitted by LibertyAtStake on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 8:10pm.

Confirmed.

Bashir = Dawah.

I guess that means MSNBC isn't MSDNC anymore - it's now MSNWO.

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Would I prefer Obama dead over Osama?

Submitted by ConservaSerb on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 8:16pm.

Seems to me, Obama has done far more harm to this country than Osama did.

Do I want Barry dead? Only if it's an act of . . . Allah. In other words, if Allah wants him, Allah can have him. I won't stand in the way.



A wise & frugal government, which shall leave men free 2 regulate their own pursuits of industry & improvement, & shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government. T. Jefferson
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One Day of Stupidity is More Dangerous Than a Life of War

Submitted by Avitar on Tue, 05/10/2011 - 9:15pm.

Of course TANCREDO does not want Obama killed and a President Biden! Unlike BASHIR Senator Tancredo loves America and wants to see America's institutions work.
There is no question that Obama’s moments of stupidity have done more damage to this country then Osama bin Laden ever did. His oil drilling shut down in the Gulf alone has done more damage already than 9/11 and we haven’t backed down the EPA terrorists yet, The Obama Stimulus bills and his jolly band of Czars have done more damage to this country that all wars under all presidents including the Civil War.
But neither I nor Tancredo want Obama dead because Biden is warming up in the bull pen. With thirty years of proven stupidity he not only would not be an improvement he could make things worse.

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Noel, I feel you are being

Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 05/11/2011 - 10:35am.

Noel, I feel you are being far too kind by limiting your descriptive word to "ignoramuses" in describing the talent (and I use that term VERY loosely) at MSNBC. I feel much harsher terms are deserved including some that should not be used in polite company.

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Beuke

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Wed, 05/11/2011 - 10:44am.

Could be a typo, and the word intended was "ignoranuses"

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Well, Tancredo is clearly not in the same league with the

Submitted by Jer on Wed, 05/11/2011 - 1:17pm.

always classy folks over at weasel zippers where the reaction to the news of bin Laden's death was typified by the following knee-slapper: 

"I phoned my brother and told him, he started yellin’ and cheerin’!! He comes back on the phone and says “Right Fuckin’ ON!! OBAMA is DEAD!! It broke my heart to correct him . . "

But if Tancredo is going to utter preposterous, inflammatory and colossally stupid claims such as Obama is a greater threat to America than bin Laden, then he shouldn't be surprised at being hit with an impertinent question about it as a result.

Jer

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Obama is a disaster---

Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 05/11/2011 - 6:55pm.

period.

Those who stick up for him are utterly preposterous, inflammatory with their support of a pos, and colossally stupid.

MD

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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Nailed It

Submitted by IrateNate on Wed, 05/11/2011 - 9:35pm.

"...preposterous, inflammatory and colossally stupid claims such as Obama is a greater threat to America than bin Laden.."

The claim was neither preposterous or colossally stupid, Jer. You are correct, however, that it was indeed inflammatory.

The difference between these two would-be destroyers of America is subtle; Osama could only attack from the outside, while Obama is destroying America from the inside.

It's a tough call, to be sure, as to whom would have been the more dangerous. But, since bin Laden is now chum, it becomes a moot point.

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→ Jer

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Wed, 05/11/2011 - 10:02pm.

It can be argued that the judas goat, is as dangerous to the herd as the slaughterhouse.

George Bush and Barack Obama, both, are guilty of selling this nonsense notion of "Religion of Peace"

I dare say, if 10% of Catholics, Jews, or Protestants, favored suicide bombings, Janet NapolitReno, at Obama's behest,  would have her own Ruby Ridge or Waco.

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Yo: Jer

Submitted by Jerry Mack on Wed, 05/11/2011 - 10:03pm.

It has been a "while" since you and I had a discussion. Very soon I will invite you to the Forum for a one on one. If you want to we can start tomorrow. I will let you pick the subject.
Jerry Mack

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They're all the same

Submitted by RealVet on Thu, 05/12/2011 - 2:04pm.

Tingles (minus the spittle), Olbermann (minus the oversized ego), Schultz (minus the uncontrollable temper tantrums), and Maddow (without the strap-on).

Same $hit, different moron.

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