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By NB Staff | May 07, 2011 | 10:37
For general discussion and debate about politics, the economy, sports, and whatever else tickles your fancy.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 10:40am.
Just got this. It confirms what I heard from another source.
Submitted by The Irishman on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 11:02am.
I have my own super secret White House insider who tells me Obama actually used avatars to kill bin Laden. The "photoshopped" image of the President holding a video game controller shows him actually controlling his avatar, well we now know this image to be the original. Of course that would be the avatar who pulled the trigger that fired the bullet into the brain of bin Laden.
Submitted by bkeyser on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 11:33am.
Who said that image was photoshopped?
Submitted by The Irishman on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 12:11pm.
THAT was the real photo. Obama was fulfilling his dream of being a Navy SEAL by controlling an avatar in the operation.
But I'm really not supposed to be discussing this.
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 11:12am.
I saw this on Thursday. I knew Bambi nor Shillary had the guts to make the call. What I read reported Jarrett was telling him not to do it. Dead Fish Rahm was bad enough but she is worst. She needs to be thrown under the bus but I bet that Leon Panetta will be.
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 11:36am.
The link to the website and insider story you provided is fine… but once there, I’m having troubles moving onto the second page of the story.
Nonetheless, enough info is contained on that first page to confirm what you and others here at NB have been saying for the last few days about who gave the order to get OBL.
Obama is not an “absentee president” so much as he is a figurehead president. I’m now pretty confident in believing BHO has never been the decision maker (on any matter) - only the messenger.
P.s.: Has anyone noticed in that "war-room" picture... BHO is not sitting at the head of the table? ...In fact it doesn't look like he's sitting at the table at all, but is just relegated to a corner seat. Hmmm... perhap's another good conspiracy in the making! :o)
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 12:47pm.
That nonsense has been floating around for days. The only thing it confirms is that the WH "Insider" is full of crap, and if you follow your "source" I believe you'll find that it drains back to the same sewer.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 1:33pm.
I read it a few times and nowhere do you say that the "nonsense" isn't true.
So based on your response, I seem to have the choice of believing the report, or Barack Hussein Obama, mmm, mmm, MMM!
I'll go with the report since Bambi hasn't done a whole heap to earn my trust.
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 1:35pm.
Its only nonsense to those like you. Considering President Obama and his moves it is entirely plausible. I bet you poopooed the idea of President Clinton borking an intern in the Oval office too.
Submitted by ckc1227 on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 2:00pm.
"if you follow your "source" I believe you'll find that it drains back to the same sewer."
....the Democrat party, lol.
Submitted by Dan Diego on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 10:07pm.
If I had something as serious as this in the works I'd cancel my Tee Time rather than be away while such an important operation went live.
If it's true that he was pulled off the course, I would say that supports the "nonsense".
What would draw more attention, canceling a Tee Time or getting yanked off the course?
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 10:21am.
At the golf course:
"Mr. President, they want you in the Situation Room now!"
"Let me finish this putt first, yo? Damn! OK, let's go see what's so damned important."
Back at the White House:
"You turkeys pulled me in off the course FOR THIS! WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING?"
"I told you not to start this shiite till I had finished my game, so I could make the call after checking with Valarie!"
"Do you have any idea what you did? I had a 91 through 9 holes, not counting that last putt since dat be on you for bothering me. I was on pace for my best round EVER, and you jackasses call me for this crap!"
"Get Van Jones back in here. I need some competent hep, yo!"
Submitted by jon_torlin on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 11:53am.
The helluvit is,I can see this happening, maybe just slightly different, but in large part the way you described it.
Having said that, the 16 hours to make a decision wasn't really to make a decision, it was a very long sulky pouting time. I base this on the recent Ground Zero event where he turned his back on that lady who requested he back off on the CIA. Seeing him go off to pout for 16 hours is something I can EASILY see him do.
Submitted by Boil It Down on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 12:04pm.
The trouble with this report is that it sounds entirely plausible given Obama's history of procrastination and indecisive nature. This all fits together so well that it could get a whole lot of traction. We really don't need any more complications, but we need the clear, unslanted truth.
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 1:28pm.
Golf hall of famer Seve Ballesteros has died from complications of a brain tumor. He has been struggling with this since 2008. He was 54. He was feisty but a true gentleman of the game. Many refer to him as the Arnold Palmer of Europe. RIP Seve and thanks for the memories *******************************************************************************
Last year Rory McIlroy wooed the crowd and won the Wells Fargo Championship at Quail Hollow in Charlotte. He missed the cut for thus year's tournament and won't be around on Saturday and Sunday. Wonder if he left all his game at Augusta?
Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 5:53pm.
We all knew it was coming, but that doesn't make it any less sad.
Seve was one of my favorite players, and I can still remember him hitting that shot out of the parking lot, birdying the hole, and winning the British Open.
He was one of the people that inspired me to take up the game.
Vote for the American in November
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 7:14pm.
CBS had a great tribute to him at the start of coverage today. I don't think Sergio will ever achieve the greatness that Seve did. I bet there is not a single golfer out there today that would try that shot from the parking lot.
You know Phil had a Spanish meal in honor of him at this year's Masters. That was classy. What happened to Phil? He shot a +2. He was right there in the thick of things when the day began.
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 11:45am.
Went to Wal Mart this morning and got some sticky notes and Sharpie markers. I put notes on the gas pump where I filled up and the restroom at Burger King. Both notes read, How's that hope and change working for you? I need some more Ideas.
If you wonder what I am talking about, here is where I got the idea. Did you think I was smart enough to think of it myself?
Get the 4 x 4 sticky notes with the ruled lines. They are bigger and you can stay on the lines.
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 11:54am.
...But what's this "staying on the lines" stuff all about?
- Grump :o)
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 12:01pm.
I have to have lines. I write crooked. Granted I am not trying to make them look professional just readable.
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 12:58pm.
I'm too cheap to buy sticky-notes, but I do have some spare labels that I printed the following on:
And have been putting them on gas pumps, shopping cart handles, etc.
Submitted by beauxdog on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 4:33pm.
Sticky notes come off very easily and do no damage to the fixtures.
Labels, on the other hand, adhere strongly to fixtures and can require extraordinary measures to remove. This could be considered vandalism.
Let's see... cost of a lawyer vs cost of sticky notes... you are a smart guy... I think you know the answer.
Submitted by jon_torlin on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 4:53pm.
Yeah, definitely do not use labels, but instead, go ahead and use the sticky notes as planned and just use pieces of scotch tape to keep them on a little longer. Make sure you don't get the scotch tape that has ultra-strong sticky-ness to it, just your basic tape is fine and use one small piece of it per note, no more than just short of an inch in length.
Just a suggestion.
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 11:50am.
Even if you didnt think of it. I think I will join you!
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 11:58am.
I bought 4 sharpies and 6 pads. My daughter is just as crazy as I am so I know she will help. Her friend thinks about as much of Obama as I do so I know she will help also. I think what I bought was less than $5. I am going to post a few Herman Cain for president sticker around too.
Submitted by CO2Maker on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 1:53pm.
So Big Ed "I hope my face doesn't freeze this way" Schultz asked Alan "I hope I die" Grayson what he thought of Dubya's decision not to join POB in New York. Schultz wondered if Bush declined because he wasn't getting credit for any part of BIn Laden't hit.
Grayson replied that he thought Bush had been drunk for the last 3 or 4 days and couldn't have an opinion!
I'd like to see GWB sue him for $10 or $20 million for defamation and slander. Grayson clearly meant to defame and demean Bush and didn't attempt to make any kind of policy comment. That would shut that fat faced f*** up once and for all.
Submitted by drsamherman on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 10:42pm.
Alan Grayson to the power of Ed Schultz to the power of collective liberal psychosis. I don't know if a team of psychiatrists working around the clock could ever treat that situation long enough for a "stabilized" discharge from an inpatient psych unit. Maybe if you had psychiatry residents who were pulling their first 24-hours in their first year..........................
Submitted by jon_torlin on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 2:24pm.
Well, it's not totally unbelievable, except for the fact that they and others seem to be getting away with it. So now we have anarchy, at least in some form.
San Fran to stop detaining arrested illegals
Texas has been considering Sanctuary City legislation and it got thrown back into session because of the complaints that it would cause racial profiling, which of course is a bogus argument. Since when is enforcing the law "racial profiling?"
Submitted by bkeyser on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 3:13pm.
Any guesses? I think they're exchanging Derby picks.
Submitted by jon_torlin on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 3:52pm.
And from the way they were acting, it wasn't the first time that happened, the general seemed to expect it. I don't know how common this is, or if previous (real) presidents have done this before.
It could be a couple of things, one being that it could be totally innocent and just a quick note about something. Of course, we're talking about the Chairman and his desire for secrecy, and there are far easier ways to pass a note to someone without noticing than the sloppy way they did, and it could be some orders that he didn't want to transmit across the radio, which would also be odd. Hell for all we know, it could be a note that says what he wants for dinner.
No matter, there's nothing trustworthy about him and his WH, so whatever they say it is will be suspect. Might as well just leave it alone.
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 5:45pm.
If it was the Derby then they are probably wrong. Two of the top contenders have been scratched. Obama goes always goes for a sure thing but the sure things are not there. .
Knowing how cheap Obama is it was probably a coupon he cut out of the paper for Domino's.
If it was Bill Clinton you would be safe to bet it was the number for an intern.
Jon, I don't trust anybody in this WH any further than I could throw ole Thunder Thighs
Submitted by Dave. on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 9:13pm.
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 5:37pm.
The Brits don't have anything on the folks at Churchill Downs. Even the men are wearing hats. Where is Blonde? We need a fashion report on the Bluegrass State from the Sunshine State.
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 6:30pm.
New laptop. So we've spent all day transferring files around and whatnot. I hate it! But the new one is nice and zippy, now it's just a matter of getting things reorganized where I can find them.
Alas, I missed the Derby. But I did rent Secretariat the other day, great flick!
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Submitted by bkeyser on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 6:43pm.
Out with it.
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 7:13pm.
Although a gamer's hand-me-down.
It's a Toshiba, big screen, all the bells and whistles, very nice. Still have to iron out the kinks like reloading my favorites, and whatnot.
4 RAM, 8 Virtual, Bose speakers, etc. As I said, very nice. However, it is still nameless. Not sure what we're going to do with Darth.
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 7:06pm.
Well you missed the hats. Thanks for the idea. I am going to put Secretariat on the list from Netflix. He was a hell of a horse. Seattle Slew and Affirmed were too. I don't know if we'll ever see horses as good as them. When Seattle Slew died they did an autopsy and found he had a heart about twice as big as the normal thoroughbred. That big motor is what gave him all those wins.
Going to go watch the race from Darlington. Darlington, SC is the redneck capitol of SC.
Submitted by Boudin on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 10:32am.
Big Reds Heart was estimated to be 22lbs.
At the time of Secretariat's death, the veterinarian who performed the necropsy, Dr. Thomas Swerczek, head pathologist at the University of Kentucky, did not weigh Secretariat's heart, but stated, "We just stood there in stunned silence. We couldn’t believe it. The heart was perfect. There were no problems with it. It was just this huge engine." Later, Swerczek also performed a necropsy on Sham, who died in 1993. Swerczek did weigh Sham's heart, and it was 18 pounds (8.2 kg). Based on Sham's measurement, and having necropsied both horses, he estimated that Secretariat's heart probably weighed 22 pounds (10.0 kg), or about two-and-a-half times as large as that of the average horse.
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 1:24pm.
Bold Ruler colts were not known for being able to go the distance. But Secretariat's dam came from a a line with excellent stamina.
As time has proven, Secretariat wasn't a great sire of race horses, but he proved to be a fabulous sire of broodmares, as there is a name for the condition of enlarged heart, I forget what it is called, but it is passed on to offspring via the dam's side of the lineage.
Would have been special to see the first-ever woman to win the Derby. Plus, I gotta thing for redheads...
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 7:19pm.
Now I know.
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 6:00pm.
The son in law was promoted to Gunnery SGT Monday while training at MCAS Yuma. He is one of the youngest in the Corps at 27 years old with about 9 years of service. They were supposed to have come home this weekend but it will be next Saturday. Besides next Friday night he will get to meet Gary Sinise when the LT Dan Band comes to give a performance. Something to do with the scores he had while training.
Submitted by bkeyser on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 6:23pm.
Say Semper Fi to the Guns from this old jarhead, will ya? I know what's like to accelerate quickly through the ranks as well as I made Sergeant in 3 years 3 months after taking a Regimental board. Unfortunately, once I transferred to HQMC in Arlington, Va, the politics came into play and I lost my taste for it. It's a shame; I regretted that decision more than any other I made during my time in the Corps; I'd be in my 25th year had I stuck it out.
Anyway- congrats again. Do you know if he's thought about Master Guns or First Shirt for his next promotion?
Anecdote: (surely the old military guys know this one)
We used to have a hand-held radio device called a PRC-68 ("prick 68"). We liked to send the boots over the the CO's pit where the First Sergeant (E-8) would be during field ops and tell the kid to ask the 1st Sgt or a "prick E-8". Good times. Good times.
Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 6:57pm.
I think he is happy right now with the E-7. I don't know what he plans on doing. His dad and I talked him into staying in because here were not jobs. I just hope with the promotion he doesn't have to leave Cherry Point anytime soon. I like having them and the grandkids around.
I can remember back to the PRC-10 (prick 10). That is the one that you had to get a long count from your buddy to get the frequency tuned properly. We called the First SGT the top kick. Never heard the prick E-8
There are times I wished I had stayed in but that was in 69-71. When I came out I did join a guard unit. If you didn't serve in Vietnam you had to go into an inactive reserve so I joined to avoid that.
I know now in the Army if you command a infantry, artillery, or armor company you hold the rank of Major. I think the top SGT is an E-9. The Army has a SGT Major but also a command SGT Major who is over the battalion. Lot more rank in an infantry company than there was when I was in. I think they have gone back to using the rank of corporal ,E-4. When I was there it was a Spec 4.
Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 7:38pm.
When people get a taste of liberty and democracy, the result is hatred for tyranny.
These people should be an example to the useful idiots in this country.
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 7:45pm.
Yeah, it is an argument for ever rebuilding or helping a country. And should we be the worlds policemen and bail out the idiots when they are only going to bite our hands. The countries we bailed out in WWII are not biting our hand whenever they can. Funny Japan is now one of our bestest friends.
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 9:51am.
Congrats to the new Gunny!
I did my first hitch in the Army (75-78) in an artillery battalion. Our BN CO was a LTC and the Battery CO was a CPT. First Sgt billet was for an E-8 1SGT, but ours was a SFC.
Submitted by bkeyser on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 3:26pm.
Cannoncocker here too. I assume you trained at Ft. Sill? That's where the Marine Corps Artillery School is located. I was there in '87. Lawton is a fine town (said with my best Lt. Dan accent). Used to go to a bar there called the Wooden Nickel- 5¢ drafts during happy hour. Of course, in school, we were never on liberty early enough for happy hour, but we did catch it the last day in Oklahoma, right after graduation. Nothing like going to a bar with three buddies and dropping two dimes on the table for four beers. I don't remember much though...
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 5:11pm.
Guess who else is a cannon cocker?
Yep.....LTC Allen West.
Submitted by bkeyser on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 6:50pm.
Nice to be among good company.
Submitted by UpNorth on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 3:19am.
A great accomplishment. Just got word that my son, the Master Sergeant, is leaving Afghanistan, or has already left. He posted about 7 hours ago that he was on his way home. Now, to hear his voice again, and see the pics his wife will post of the homecoming for 2/3 in Hawaii.
Submitted by ricklail on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 9:53am.
The Marine son in law is scheduled for deployment to Afghanistan in November. I didn't worry about him too much last time he was there. They will be a Bagrahm air base. Not too safe there with the kooks. The son in law Navy reserve corpsman has not heard anything.
Submitted by drsamherman on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 10:47pm.
When our older cat died earlier in April, my dear wife said she would like to acquire a new feline companion. We went to the shelter this morning and adopted a beautiful little Calico we named Lily. Lily was sleeping on the ottoman next to my desk and hissed at my wife when she tried to pick her up. Of course, this situation completely reversed when my wife came into my office with a bowl of kitten chow. Now she and Lily are best friends.
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 11:21pm.
Kitties are where you find them, or where they find you.
From my new kitkat, to yours...welcome to the family!
Submitted by NL207 on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 11:33pm.
named Roy and Sigfried have some mature kitty cats free to a good home.
Submitted by stratman on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 11:35pm.
Congrats on the new cat, Sam.
Fun kitty video for you and Blonde.
Submitted by NL207 on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 11:50pm.
Blonde might like these as well ...
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 12:08am.
I don't know what I was thinking about the baby cat... of course he should have been "Tom"....well, except for he is the Iguana Man's creature (truly, I rescued the little critter from the cold and starvation, but he has attached himself to a different hoomin), and ACA named the little guy.
We're teaching him Spanish.
Submitted by NL207 on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 12:16am.
he'd be retired, wouldn't he?
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 12:29am.
He was a "tom", until it wasn't a good thing any longer.
No worries, though....he's well loved, and well treated.
As for the other TomCat. Probably the most lovely plane (and it was a fabulous canvas for some of the best military artwork, ever), although I do love certain other planes for their form and function. F-4 (baddest-assed looking plane ever, somehow the smoke adds quite a bit), B-52 (how does Mean Gene put it???? Fighters are fun but bombers make policy).... the A-10, and the SR-71.
How lucky we are to have lived in the time of airplanes.
Submitted by NL207 on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 12:57am.
Ugliest ass airplane ever flown by someone you and I know well. Considering it was designed in 1958, it has astonishing performance, especially raw straight line speed. It had lots of nicknames: Rhino, Hulk. Led sled, none evocative of grace or beauty.
The smoke thing ... that was just the J79-8 and it's best.
If you think the F-14 wore gaudy paint, you need to see the Phantom schemes of 1972.
Submitted by BEGRUNT on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 12:59am.
The Air Force, we would say the F-4 was proof, that rocks could fly.......LOL!
"A nation can suffer it's fool's, but cannot survive the traitor"
Submitted by NL207 on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 1:17am.
By all rights rocks ought to be able to fly if the F-4 can.
If I am not mistaken, the F-4 is the only Navy design since the AD1 Skyraider to be adopted by the Air Force. That is saying something.
Submitted by ricklail on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 9:56am.
Looks like they will all be going to the F-35, Marines, Navy and Air Force.
Submitted by NL207 on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 10:21am.
the F-111? Robert 'Edsel' McNamara's one-size-fits-all solution to air combat? It was known as the TFX. The DoD intended that this aircraft be used as a shipboard fighter, among other purposes. Eventually, the Air Force got some service out of it as a tactical bomber. the Navy, wisely rejected it, and proceeded with development of the F-14.
The JSF has F-111 written all over it. God help all those who must fly this machine into combat.
Obama and his coterie of fools have already ended F-22 Raptor production. I believe they will, if not defeated in the next election, also cancel the JSF. It will take 10 years to undo the damage these fools have done to the military, assuming there is any money available to undo this damage.
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 1:47pm.
Sent from England by Ronald to say hello to Muhamar the first time?
Submitted by NL207 on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 3:30pm.
F-111's were used as tactical bombers to trash Muammar's place. The Air Force got some good work out of them in that capacity.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 5:10pm.
One F-111 could carry the bomb load of four F-4 Phantom II's.
The F-111 suffered engine stall on turns. Oh how about all that wear and tear on those wing hinges.
Here is some info on Inlet issues, in a discussion with modelers.
I know! got one up on blocks in my backyard. /sarc
You Didn't Build That.
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 9:55am.
Is when form follows function.
Submitted by upcountrywater on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 2:42pm.
So very true, and the age of rockets to the moon.
The F-4 what a huge plane.
The next navy jet.... X-47B... hummm a subsonic UAV
Operational in 2013... Fat chance from the No drill gang, Leon will slash and burn the military.
We get to look forward to China's bumbling stealth program, to continue to make progress... What an underpowered DOG, J-20
Almost stalled out on take off @ 1:38...
Submitted by stratman on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 11:10pm.
Obama, Biden and team spiking the ball after the kill.
How many weeks are the Prez and Press going to keep spiking the ball?
Submitted by stratman on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 11:24pm.
Submitted by NL207 on Sat, 05/07/2011 - 11:52pm.
But we can be sure he ordered pizza.
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 9:03am.
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 11:31am.
I really had to laugh. This is by Piers Morgan (now on Larry King's show) about the perfection of Royal Wedding [emphasis mine].
And my pleasure was intensified by the predictable outpouring of seething resentment from some quarters, including Guardian columnist Polly Toynbee, a spectacular hypocrite of a woman who leads, like so many of her colleagues at the paper, a life richer and more privileged than that of many royals.
Perhaps the greatest reason for us to keep a monarchy is purely to irritate Ms Toynbee and her lentil-munching pals.
I believe he could have been talking about old K-K-Katie Couric.
Submitted by Grumpy in Arizona on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 12:16pm.
I'm just guessing here, but suspect they are just exchanging "unit coins" which is an old Army tradition. I.e.: The President gives the Commanding General a coin with the presidential seal and in turn recieves a coin with the Unit Emblem.
Like I say, just a guess.
- Grump :o)
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sun, 05/08/2011 - 5:12pm.
Then why the secret handshake routine. It is probably nothing but makes great fodder for wild assed thought.
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