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By Noel Sheppard | April 19, 2011 | 01:04

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As NewsBusters has been reporting, America's media have been on a full-court press to raise taxes ever since Barack Obama proposed this in his deficit reduction speech last Wednesday.

So supportive of soaking the rich is MSNBC's Ed Schultz that on Monday's program bearing his name, seconds after claiming "Republicans are forced I guess you could say to make stuff up," he lied about what happened after taxes were cut by President George W. Bush (video follows with transcript and commentary):

ED SCHULTZ: In the fight over taxes, Democrats have simple fairness on their side. They have simple math on their side, and polls show that Americans favor ending tax cuts for the wealthy. So Republicans are forced I guess you could say to make stuff up, but they do a pretty good damn good job of that, don’t they? Like Congressman Joe Walsh, Republican of Illinois talking about how tax cuts increase revenue to the government.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

REPRESENTATIVE JOE WALSH (R-ILLINOIS): Every time we’ve cut taxes, revenues have gone up.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

SCHULTZ: EVERY TIME! Republicans just love that saying: “Every time we’ve cut revenues, we’ve cut taxes, revenues have gone up.” I doubt it. But when the Bush tax cuts went into effect, revenues went down. Even taking into account the impact of 9/11, there was no reason to believe the Bush tax cuts helped the to raise revenue. Even seven years later, revenues were lower than before the Bush tax cuts went into effect.

Notice that the source of information for that graph was supposedly the Office of Management and Budget:

I'm not sure who did this research for Schultz, but here are the numbers directly from OMB:

Above is a screencap from page 22 of OMB's "Historical Tables: Budget of the United States." The column on the left represents total unified tax receipts, the center is total unified expenditures, and the right is the associated surplus or deficit.

The first Bush tax cuts happened in 2001 when we brought in $1.991 trillion in receipts. This declined for two years, then started increasing, and by 2005 not only were receipts higher than in 2001, they were also higher than the previous record set in 2000.

"Even seven years later, revenues were lower than before the Bush tax cuts went into effect."

Not even close. Revenues in 2008 were $2.523 trillion, $532 billion or 27 percent higher than 2001.

Where Schultz got his information is beyond me - and likely beyond him. So much for Democrats having "simple math on their side."

One other point before we move on: notice that revenues actually peaked at $2.568 trillion in 2007. That was the last year the Republicans controlled the White House and both chambers of Congress.

After four years of Democrat control of the legislature, and two-plus years of Obama, tax receipts have yet to get back to where they were when Republicans ran everything.

It of course goes without saying Schultz would view this as me being forced to make stuff up despite the facts speaking for themselves.

As for the initial decline in tax receipts after the first Bush cuts were implemented, the Congressional Budget Office began asking why that was happening as early as August 2002 (emphasis added):

Spring 2002 brought an "April surprise" of a type that had not been seen for roughly a decade: federal revenues substantially lower than expected, a reversal of the pattern that characterized the late 1990s. Even though the current fiscal year is nearly over, revenue forecasters have substantially revised their expectations of how much fiscal year (FY) 2002 revenues will be as a consequence of April, May, and June receipts. A fiscal year that began with a forecast of a budget in approximate balance now faces a deficit of $157 billion, $103 billion of which results from revenues that are lower for reasons other than the effects of legislation. That latest revision comes on top of downward revisions from last August and January. [...]

The most obvious explanation for what happened to receipts is the recession, which has reduced the level of economic activity--the main determinant of tax collections. Although CBO incorporated effects of an economic slowdown in its baseline as early as January 2001, its projections did not reflect the effects of a recession until the January 2002 baseline, after the seriousness of the downturn had become evident. Since then--although indications are that the economy has begun recovering--the recession's effects on receipts still linger.

So, $103 billion of the reduction in revenues up to that point were not caused by the Bush tax cuts, but instead the recession.

By January of 2003, the CBO offered another reason for the huge decline in revenues: an unexpected drop in capital gains taxes associated with the fall in the stock market. Even the liberal think tank the Center for Economic Policy Research couldn't hide the truth:

The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) acknowledged that the deflation of the stock market bubble will seriously depress capital gains revenue in its new economic and budget projections. Prior to this year, CBO had continued to project that capital gains tax revenue would be larger than its historic share of GDP over its ten-year projection period. It clung to these projections in spite of the fact that its own profit projections implied that the stock market was hugely over-valued and was virtually certain to collapse within its projection period.

The downward adjustment in the projections for capital gains tax revenue has a serious impact on the future budget projections. The new projections show that revenue from capital gains taxes will be $428 billion less than was indicated in the January 2001 projections (for the over-lapping years), which were the most recent projections at the time President Bush’s tax cut was approved. Including the effect of interest, the 10-year surplus projections would have been $516 billion lower in 2001, if the current capital gains projections had been used.

Readers are advised to review those two paragraphs again, for in them lies the heart of the so-called Clinton surpluses and why they disappeared.

What shills like Schultz don't know, and folks like the New York Times's Paul Krugman and former Clinton labor secretary Robert Reich refuse to share with the public, is that the Clinton surpluses beyond 2001 were an illusion created by tremendously optimistic assumptions by the CBO.

Tax receipts exploded in 1998, 1999, and 2000 as a result of the stock market bubble and the resulting dramatic rise in capital gains taxes. CBO projected that such increases would continue for the next ten years resulting in surpluses as far as the eye can see.

When the bubble began to burst in March 2000, and the economy receded twelve months later, CBO clung to the expectation that these revenues were still going to materialize. As CEPR noted in its report, it wasn't until January 2003 that CBO realized its error and began seriously revising down its revenue targets and up its deficit projections.

Regardless of what shills like Schultz, Krugman, Reich, and virtually all of the liberal media have been saying for the last decade, the Bush tax cuts didn't turn surpluses into deficits. It was instead a mixture of terrible forecasting by CBO, a plummeting stock market with a resulting decline in capital gains taxes, and a recession caused by a bear market that began ten months before Bush was inaugurated.

You can beat your head against a wall trying to get a liberal media member to acknowledge any of these immutable facts, so don't bother wasting your time.

As for this lie by Schultz, it's becoming so commonplace on this joke of a so-called news network that MSNBC executives must be numb to it, but that doesn't explained why the folks at Comcast and General Electric put up with it.

*****Update: NBer DonShock accurately notes in the comments section that despite Schultz's chart saying "In $ Billions," he must have meant as a percentage of GDP.

Let's analyze that. First off, even "In $ Billions" is wrong. It should have read "In $ 100 Billions." However, if the y-axis was correctly labeled "Percent of GDP," it would have proven the point that tax cuts spur the economy.

Here's GDP in gross annual dollars from the Bureau of Economic Analysis:

As such, despite the impacts of 9/11, a collapsing stock market and the resulting recession, GDP grew in gross dollars by 40 percent in the seven years after the first Bush tax cuts. As tax revenues also grew during this period, the reason why their percentage of GDP dropped was due to GDP rising faster than receipts.

Since the goal of tax cuts is to grow the economy, it's clear they accomplished their goal.

To put a finer point on this, Schultz's very next comment was:

The effect of tax rates for the 400 richest Americans -- well, they've dropped since 1995 -- and, boy, they went out and just created a ton of jobs, didn`t they? No, they did not. It's a fallacy. It's a failed policy.

Here's what happened to jobs in this nation once the Bush tax cuts took effect (from the Bureau of Labor Statistics):

So, after the Bush tax cuts: the recession ended, GDP grew by 40 percent in gross dollar terms, tax revenues increased, and jobs were created.

And this is what Schultz sees as "failed policy."

Actually, the failed policy is what's happened since the Democrats took over Congress in 2007: a serious recession started, GDP declined, tax revenues plummeted as did jobs - all while the federal debt exploded by almost $6 trillion!

This is what Schultz and the other shills in the media consider successful policy.

Any questions?

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IIt's Just Math

Submitted by muckdog on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 1:30am.

It is frustrating trying to talk to the progressives. They're not very rational. The best approach is to just deny them money for their fantasyland ideas, smile, and wish them a nice day.

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Eat the Rich! Well, that's

Submitted by jdhawk on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 1:31am.

Eat the Rich! Well, that's what duhbama, the dimocrats and the lamestream media are telling us should be done. Are they right?

Believe it or not, even if you took all of the wealth from everyone in this country you would only be able to pay for one year's worth of the ridicously bloated federal budget as illustrated in this timely YouTube vide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=661pi6K-8WQ

As the video points out, it may work for one year, then what? All of the capital from all the people that employ it so efficiently (you know, those villianous rich) would be gone. The whole edifice of this bloated federal government would collapse into oblivion.

It's not about tax receipts; it's about spending. We have got to convince the 545 representatives of our government to get serious about cutting spending. If they can't or won't, we have to vote them out of office.

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Hmmm, it would be more

Submitted by dscott on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 2:55am.

Hmmm, it would be more accurate to say we have to convince liberal members of Congress it is in their personal financial interest to cut spending and not raise taxes. As long as liberals don't have a vested interest in protecting what's theirs, they don't give a crap about what's ours. When Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are convinced they are personally going to lose their fortunes, then and only then will they act in the country's best interest IF those interests are concurrent.

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
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Everyting's OK

Submitted by Boil It Down on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 1:42am.

The Sun rises in the East - The sky is blue - Water is wet - Ed Schultz lied to demonize the opposition....All is nominal on Earth. When Ed starts being truthful, rational and objective, I will begin worrying about the end of mankind.

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Ed Schultz is like a

Submitted by motherbelt on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 6:41am.

Ed Schultz is like a 5-year-old making up a story, making it all up as he goes along.

Why anyone takes him seriously is just beyond comprehension.

He's a BS artist and he knows it.  That's why he never has anyone on his show that might contradict what he says, and why he hangs up on callers who disagree. Because as long as he says it and no one contradicts him, it's true.

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I saw this coming

Submitted by johnsonl on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 6:46am.

as soon as Obamao said "we're gonna spread the wealth around a little". Institute a flat tax and end payroll deductions NOW!

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Right, johnson.

Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 9:21am.

Like I've said, Bambi is a lot of things but he is not a liar.  He stood up and clearly told the American voters what he intended to do, and now he's doing it.

Face the fact that over half the voters in this country are truly dumb asses.  That's why I'm not too comfortable that Bambi can't win again.

The minority that pays the freight for the majority who sit on their collective asses needs to find a way to solve this problem.

Comrade Bubba
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Ed the Red...

Submitted by adamsmith on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 6:46am.

I believe in Creationary Evolution. I believe in Ed the Red we have found the "Missing Link". The perfect marriage of Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon. During his ad on MSNBC as he's walking the streets of NY trying to look important with his Man Bag, there is definitely an ape-like quality to his stride. If he does a GEICO ad, he'll have removed all doubt. THE STUPIDEST FOOL IN MEDIA. Except maybe for that Michael Malloy cretin......

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Don't be fooled,

Submitted by johnsonl on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 6:47am.

it's a purse.

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Noel, isn't refuting Liberals through simple research fun?

Submitted by acaiguana on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 6:58am.

It is so easy to refute these Liberals who theoretically have large staffs to research their silly assertions.  I feel your pain watching Schultz.

ACA

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Quoted from: 'Acaiguana notes from the Underground' (Soon to be at theaters near you)

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Graph is actually in % GDP, not $ Billions

Submitted by DonShock on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 6:58am.

I think I found the source for Ed's numbers. It appears to be from the Congressional Budget Office Analysis Long Term Outlook for Federal Revenue issued in 2010. But the numbers shown on the graph should be in Percent of GDP, not Billions of $. Of course, if tax cuts work as they should and stimulate a growing economy, it makes sense that the percentage would drop even as revenue taken in rises. Not only does the Federal Government get more money from the lower rates, but the entire country grows even more productive now that the real producers get to keep more of their own money to put to productive use creating goods, services, and jobs.

http://www.usgovernmentrevenue.com/budget_cbo_gr.php?year=2000_2010&view...

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That was my first thought

Submitted by Par for the Course on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 8:06am.

That was my first thought when I looked at the graph, that's a chart showing tax receipts as a percentage of GDP. Who labeled it Billions? I doubt OMB did. Good catch Noel.

Historical Source of Revenue as Share of GDP

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Don

Submitted by Noel Sheppard on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 9:05am.

Don,

See update. ns

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Beautiful!

Submitted by Blonde on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 12:03pm.

Absolutely fantastic catch.

And explanation. Although I don't think even something so stunningly simple as your explanation would get through Shultzie's dense armor of talking points.

I have one question, though...perhaps you know the answer since you took the time to look this up. Does this include the off budget items of Iraq & Afghanistan? It's pretty impressive either way, but I'm just curious.

And that's a very cool link, too. Bookmarked.

Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)

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I agree.

Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 12:07pm.

Positively Blumer-esque, that was.

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Oh come on...

Submitted by c5then on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 7:33am.

Yet another story on how Ed Schultz is lying for his DNC handlers???!!!

We all know that Ed lies most of the time he is talking so why not take on the hard job...find a statement by Seargent Schultz that is factually accurate. Now that would be a rare bird indeed.

 

Madison and Jefferson and Franklin built a Republic - Roberts killed it! 

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It's a classic leftist tactic,

Submitted by HockeyKid on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 8:13am.

brought to the forefront by BJ Clinton: accuse the opposition of the very thing you're doing. That's the only audacity Obysmal knows (in case you haven't noticed him blaming the Republicans for the deficit and debt).

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

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ed in white underwear

Submitted by tomolson3 on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 9:05am.

is it just me or wasnt this guy last seen in the movie Deliverance bent over a log and squeeling like a pig!!!!

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nah,wasn't Ed,

Submitted by DWEarly on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 9:40am.

'cause those hardup hillbillies would have taken one look,then gone home to the pigs.

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Could be, Tom.

Submitted by Newsbubba on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 11:43am.

He starred in "Lonesome Dove"  playing both pigs that followed the herd north!

Comrade Bubba
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Facts don't matter with

Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 9:34am.

Facts don't matter with Schultz and his crew when it can spin a good smear. I just hope one day it comes back to bite him in the butt in a major way.

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It's a tell - just like "The

Submitted by amyshulk on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 10:13am.

It's a tell - just like "The fact of the matter" and "Let me be clear" I hear those and brace myself to be lied to.

The government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Ronald Reagan
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Nice Work Noel,

Submitted by bigdaddy on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 11:52am.

When the Dims get hit with the actual numbers and facts, they say crap like "Well, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree" or "Bill Clinton left office with a huge (Capital Gains tax fueled) surplus", or "George Bush did it too".

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I wouldn't get too excitied

Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Tue, 04/19/2011 - 4:44pm.

I wouldn't get too excitied about ed's latest lie. How about the GOP they just cut 325 Billion when there was in fact a 3.3 billion increase. Ed schultz , the GOP what's the difference? The repubilcans has no desires whatsoever to reduce the debt, obama owns boehner.

Non, je ne regrette rien. "You aren't angry because I might be a racist, you're angry because you know I'm right".
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facts about facts

Submitted by needle on Wed, 04/20/2011 - 1:29pm.

Facts are important for forming opinions and convincing others.

This is true for both conservatives and liberals.

However, for liberals what is important about “facts” is their persuasiveness, not their truthfulness.

- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.

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Tax cuts AND Deregulation

Submitted by Oneunder on Wed, 04/20/2011 - 1:18pm.

Tax cuts was one part of the increase Government revenue. We are not getting the deregulation that Reagan worked very hard for. Take the HANDCUFFS off of the private sector and watch Government revenue soar.

"Government is like a baby: An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other."

- Ronald Reagan
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