NPR Hosts: Employees Here Are 'Overwhelmingly Liberal' - But We're Not Biased
In response to this week's shameful exposure of bias at NPR, a couple of its hosts on Friday had an on air discussion about whether or not the radio network does indeed have a political leaning.
Shortly after "On the Media" host Bob Garfield said, "If you were to somehow poll the political orientation of everybody in the NPR news organization and all of the member stations, you would find an overwhelmingly progressive, liberal crowd," Ira Glass of "The American Life" maintained the outlet had no left-wing bias whatsoever (audio follows with partial transcript and commentary):
BROOKE GLADSTONE, ‘ON THE MEDIA’ CO-HOST, NPR: About 25 years ago, I was asked to do a piece, “Is NPR Biased to the Left?” And I couldn’t find a metric to apply to the question in order to answer it.
IRA GLASS, ‘THE AMERICAN LIFE’ HOST, NPR: I don’t know the methodology somebody would use, but I feel like public radio should address this directly, because I think anybody who listens to our stations knows that what they’re hearing is mainstream media reporting. We have nothing to fear from a discussion of what is the news coverage we’re doing.
I couldn’t find a metric. I don’t know the methodology somebody would use.
Maybe that's part of the problem - these so-called journalists don't know how to determine bias in reporting.
How about first taking a look at a week's worth of programming and simply adding up the number of real conservative and liberal guests as well as Republican and Democrat guests? The qualifier "real" means that folks like New York Times columnist David Brooks and former CNN contributor Kathleen Parker don't count because they are by no means conservative.
Despite there being far more ways to measure bias, this would at least be a good start if NPR was serious about doing such an examination.
But the best was yet to come as another host made quite an admission moments later:
GLASS: As somebody who works in public radio, it is killing me that people on the right are going around trying to basically rebrand us saying that it’s biased news, you know, it’s left-wing news, when I feel like anybody who listens to the shows knows that it’s not, and we are not fighting back. We’re not saying anything back. I find it completely annoying, and, and I don’t understand it.
BOB GARFIELD, ‘ON THE MEDIA’ CO-HOST, NPR: Okay, so this gets back to not only Brooke’s problem, finding a metric to report on this story, but it’s especially difficult when you and I both know that if you were to somehow poll the political orientation of everybody in the NPR news organization and all of the member stations, you would find an overwhelmingly progressive, liberal crowd. Not uniformly, but overwhelmingly.
So, according to Garfield, the landscape of all the people that work for and are affiliated with NPR is overwhelmingly liberal. This didn't seem to phase Glass in the slightest:
GLASS: Journalism in general, reporters tend to be Democrats and tend to be more liberal than the public as a whole. Sure. But that doesn’t change what is going out over the air, and I feel like let’s measure the product.
That bears repeating: "[R]eporters tend to be Democrats and tend to be more liberal than the public as a whole...But that doesn’t change what is going out over the air."
Isn't it amazing that liberal media members almost universally believe this fallacy? Despite their political views, who they vote for, and what issues they support, they think they're totally impartial in their reporting.
Glass continued:
GLASS: And you’re saying what’s the metric that we can measure the product on? I’d say, go through this morning’s “Morning Edition” and find me even a sentence that smells like political bias to you. Like, like find one.
Looking at only one program on only one day to determine if an entire radio network is biased is of course absurd, but that wasn't the last inanity uttered by Glass.
After he challenged Garfield and Gladstone to take on the mission of identifying once and for all whether or not NPR is slanted in its reporting, Gladstone marvelously asked, “What if the answer is ‘Yes, NPR has a left-wing bias?’”
Glass quickly responded, “It’s not going to be ‘Yes.’”
Any bias there, Ira?
Ironically, as the segment continued, Gladstone wondered if the answer was "No," would anybody believe it.
And therein lies the rub, for if NPR really wants to seriously make such a determination, it should hire an outside, neutral entity that knows what metrics to use to come to a valid conclusion. Just as importantly, it shouldn't be done by folks that were "overwhelmingly liberal."
Color me very unsurprised this trio didn't think it absurd for an organization filled with liberals to examine itself for liberal bias.
That's akin to the White House doing its own investigation for wrongdoing or impropriety rather than appointing an independent counsel.
Oh. That's right. Liberals do that, too.
(H/T NB reader Carter Wood)
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Ira, Ira, Ira ...
Submitted by metaphorsbwithu on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 4:17pm.
Not only do liberal reporters "change what is going out over the air" but, more importantly, they actually PREVENT news from going over the air.Here's a metric . . .
Submitted by Lakewood Ed on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 4:35pm.
Count the number of reports that have the lables 'conservative', 'right-wing', 'far-right' versus reports that have 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'far-left' and, so as not to forget the latest re-branding, 'progressive'. If you're standing in left field where there's not too much to your left and the rest of the world is off to the right, maybe you're not 'balanced'.Asking a liberal to spot
Submitted by MightyMouth on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 4:36pm.
Asking a liberal to spot liberal bias is like asking a moron to to point out something stupid he has said. Liberals are by definition biased toward ...wait for it.... LIBERALISM!!Think, man, think!! You went to college, after all!
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 4:41pm.
I couldn’t find a metric. I don’t know the methodology somebody would use.How about the metric and methodology you use to determine Fox News is biased to the right?
And...
Submitted by zachlind on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 6:11pm.
This is a very good point.Touche Trolls. Fox has far
Submitted by eaglewingz08 on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 4:57pm.
Touche Trolls. Fox has far more liberal reporters, Brett Baier anyone, than NPR has real conservative reporters, yet Fox is lambasted as supposedly biased because it has some conservative reportage, yet NPR is unbiased because to hold liberal views is the height of nonpartisan reportage.More that Brett.
Submitted by SnapTie on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 5:40pm.
How about Shepard Smith and Greta ?If Shep was any more left his
Submitted by MightyMouth on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 5:46pm.
If Shep was any more left his head would unscrew.Well, MM...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 6:13pm.
that would certainly account for what I had perceived as a remarkable growth in Shep's journalistic credentials and reportorial insight over the past few years. In fact, I'm going to send him a gushing email letting him know he's my new Fox Fave.Jer
→ Jer
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 6:18pm.
And that's saying a lot, given that Alan Colmes is still on the payroll.Pleasegod, Cool...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 6:26pm.
when will I be spared the constant 'Colmes' references. How absolutely marvelous it would be to learn that clown had experienced some sort of twisted epiphany and declared he was now and forevermore a staunch conservative.Jer
That's it, Jer.
Submitted by ant on Sun, 03/13/2011 - 12:58am.
A decent metric for determining NPR's 'slant' would be the quantity and subject matter of mail and phone calls from listeners. Any method beats Glass and other staff determining their own "impartiality". It really isn't that difficult. I know libs and conservatives in personal life, the cons don't listen to NPR and the libs don't listen to Limbaugh. The folks at NPR are lying through their teeth, I think. I know and admit I have conservative viewpoints and express them, just as Jer has his views and he recognizes that fact and expresses it honestly. Why is it so hard for these 'highly-educated' people to do so? Because they are covering their ass.I've listened
Submitted by Increase Mather on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 5:07pm.
Check out the "news" at the top of any hour. Seems like the editors have to check a box before it goes on. One box for minorities, homosexuals as victims, another for feminism, and of course another for angry white males or tea partiers. It's a constant leftwing drumbeat...on and on it goes. Stories that don't show these favored groups in favorite ways just don't make it on the air. Listen for a short time and see. Remember a few years ago when a NPR "reporter" suggested Christians as the likey source of a terrorist event? Typical.Noel.. And their conservative/Rep guests are there for what..
Submitted by Gary Hall on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 5:27pm.
Noel. And their conservative and Republican guests are there for what purpose? To report to the audience about the wonderful policies being promoted by such guests? Or, is it - damn near each and every time - simply to have them on for the purpose of challenging them on each and every issue/view under the sun?
A good question here is, "are there any actual conservatives openly working at NPR, as correspondents, reporters, writers, analysts, editors, fundraisers, administration, etc?" We know that numerous liberal's to communists/socialists get to host their own shows on NPR (and let's not forget PBS here as well), but do they have a conservative hosting a show?
Just the same, I was peachy pleased to see that the LA Times editorial board was writing that NPR should remain a neutral force. har har.
(;~> gary
Gary...as far as PBS
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 7:44pm.
John McLaughlin was once very conservative, although admittedly he has drifted toward the center in recent years--and I believe even voted for Obama--but I would still consider him a little right of center. I've been advocating for some time now that PBS should reintroduce more conservatives into their political programming lineup. It hopefully would defuse much of the criticsm from the right.Having said that, even during the 90's when there were at least as many, if not more, conservative hosts than liberal, I would hear the same complaints about PBS shutting out conservative opinion.
Jer
PS...I'm not familiar with all of the NPR hosts. Who's the commie?
Their smugness will do them in
Submitted by Galvanic on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 5:47pm.
I think dialogue like this --- like the statements of the two Schillers -- are hastening the end of the Federal subsidies.Only hardcore liberals donate
Submitted by Slyrr on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 6:34pm.
Only hardcore liberals donate to their stupid pledge drives anymore. Only thick-headed, biased goons can look at NPR and see anything but a pack of like-minded liberal thugs.25 years ago?
Submitted by ThisnThat on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 6:40pm.
And in 25 years, he's yet to define a metric? Ok, here's a test: When you next have a meeting of NPR executives, suggest that you bring, say, Chuck Schumer in for an interview. Count the number of times people agree. Count the number of good things said about ol' Chuck. And the bad. Write it all down on a piece of paper.
Then -- suggest that you bring Sarah Palin in for an interview. Perform the same counts.
You'll have your metric.
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“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court
From the Blind Leading the Blind Dept.
Submitted by Mary Louise Turner on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 7:13pm.
These arrogant remarks can be inserted into the category: the blind leading the blind!I see. 'Overwhelmingly
Submitted by DoktorFranken on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 7:46pm.
I see.
'Overwhelmingly Liberal' means ''fair and balanced'' in their drug-addled minds.
Hey, Look What I Found!
Submitted by Bill W. on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 8:08pm.
http://www.fairpress.org/identify.htm They don't know that they don't know.Shep, Greta, and Geraldo are
Submitted by povertypimpin on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 8:51pm.
Shep, Greta, and Geraldo are left leaning. Greta now is probably more to the center after witnessing what the left has been doing the last few years. Geraldo sees the nonsense too, but he is still hopeless. His emotion keeps on the liberal side even when I see the wheel of logic trying to spin in his head. Even most of the right leaning shows like O'Reilly(ok center right) and Hannity have one or more liberals on their show practically every night. Beck is probably the only one who doesn't regularly have liberal guests on his show.That is why they are trying to silence Beck
Submitted by TheHistorian on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 9:12pm.
Glenn is so heavily footnoted and has so much history that is contrary to the lieberal screed that they fear him. He puts the lie especially to Roosevelt and Wilson, two icons of the liberal movement.Dennis Prager
Beck's facts
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 9:26pm.
As much as the left hate Beck, I don't see them calling him out on the facts of his arguments. They can dispute his predictions, but not his fact. Drives 'em nuts.Here's the truth Ms Rad*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 9:39pm.
The liberal media are at Soros's beck and call. Glen Beck points out to the true journalists which rock to look under. They are beginning to do that so it is difficult to call out Beck when "credible" researchers are coming up with the facts. The truth is spreading far and wide.
Read Tom Borelli and Tim Carney. Kinda difficult to call them "fear mongers" but even more difficult when they yell "you lie".
The left doesn't dispute
Submitted by povertypimpin on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 11:12pm.
The left doesn't dispute Beck's individual dots because everything he says is true. They do object to his connection of those dots as a conspiracy to bring socialism and communism to America. I'm not sure if Beck even uses the word conspiracy. If he does then ok it depends on how you define conspiracy. I will definitely say it is a coordinated effort by many left wing organizations.Why do liberals maintain
Submitted by TheHistorian on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 9:07pm.
that FoxNews is biased because the bulk of its commentators are conservative, but that NPR, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, etc are not biased even though the bulk of its commentators are liberal? I find FoxNews (as an example a newscaster named Lisa Littera) usually is reading the AP version of a news story rather than that from anywhere else. My wife comments on at least one story a day that is off from the liberal printing press on FoxNews.Dennis Prager
Not true
Submitted by TheHistorian on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 9:17pm.
Many people contribute to them because of the fund drives actually have the best that PBS has to offer. The money that goes to the local station is used to by NPR programming. So the only route of donation is not only from the liberal and left-leaner.Dennis Prager
If NPR wanted to disabuse anyone of the notion that they are
Submitted by WarEagle01 on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 9:28pm.
are liberal partisan organization, then running this segment was manifestly not the way to go about doing it.Izvestia and Pravda
Submitted by Comrade Jim on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 9:38pm.
Employees at Izvestia and Pravda were overwhelmingly communist; they were also not biased.Liberals properly tasked with examining possible liberal bias?
Submitted by Ashrak on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 9:54pm.
Ok then, I challenge the folks at NPR to take each and every story aired, on every program over the last five years, about the Second Amendment and list every sentence they possibly can which they view qualifies as the "conservative" viewpoint. NPR can probably fill up a whole page - double spaced. I say this about that topic because nowhere is clear cut liberal bias more obviously shown than within that subject matter. To be sure, one cannot make a judgment about the entire organization based on just that one example, but what an exercise in that arena does show is an obliteration of the claim that there isn't any bias there. Maybe when they see for themselves, in that example, that it is undeniable, they might just open their eyes to the bias about just about every other topic under the sun.ROFL...There.Are.No.Words...
Submitted by Tenebrous on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 9:57pm.
NPR continues to implode. I love it! Please, you clueless liberals, continue your mental flatuations that you call "thinking". Liberals are incapable of logic, blind to reality, and exist in a mental ward that contains them and their admirers. When they try to escape (see above), it is comedy gold!Visions and Principles blog
Why don't these guys just own
Submitted by shannon76 on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 10:25pm.
Why don't these guys just own up to being Leftists who happily report news with a Liberal perspective?? Also, Ira Glass's whiny screech of a voice projects effete, lean forward - grab the ankles - bend over Leftism. Man, that is one horrible voice. It sends images of being in a crowded subway in Manhattan and overhearing some annoying waifish, emo hipster in skinny jeans complaining about his boyfriend or girlfriend.Been there. Seen it.
Submitted by Restless Legs on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 10:45pm.
I have worked as a news reporter and anchor at two NPR affiliates. Let's just say I was a lone conservative adrift in a sea of liberals. I did have one liberal news director who was very good at making sure the news had balance, but he was the exception. My favorite moment was when I worked election night in 1994. The liberal newsroom was shell-shocked by the Republican takeover of Congress. It was like a morgue that night. These so-called journalists were genuinely depressed. This newsroom should have been excited about reporting on the historic nature of the election results. Instead, they treated it like a personal defeat. Two years earlier, there were fist pumps and lots of smiles when Clinton was elected. This shouldn't happen in a newsroom. Both times, colleagues (who personally knew my political views) asked me why I wasn't responding with joy (1994) or with sadness (1992). I told them it was a newsroom, and I leave those feelings at the door. My job is to report the news as it happens. My experience has been that NPR reporters try to feign objectivity, but when everyone in the newsroom is decidedly liberal, that mindset can't help but make its way into news coverage.There is no need to ask or
Submitted by jdhawk on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 10:53pm.
There is no need to ask or answer the question. They can broadcast anything that they can and still earn a profit and stay in business once they are off the teat of the American taxpayer.Of course they're not biased.
Submitted by pbthinker on Sat, 03/12/2011 - 11:07pm.
It's always been great to be a liberal. If you say you're not biased, you're not biased. Who's going to check? You can't believe those conservatives, they're all biased, so the only people who decide whether you're biased or not are liberals. Now, do you understand that?What is a liberal*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sun, 03/13/2011 - 12:32am.
Cajun is confused again. Who decided this idiot would give the weekly republican address?
cajun
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sun, 03/13/2011 - 12:49am.
I think Polosi scheduled that one.The "Smart" Party
Submitted by Granite Sentry on Mon, 03/14/2011 - 12:14pm.
A truly astonishing level of self-deception from a sect who are convinced they're the smartest people on the planet. It's like development arrested at about age 13. Who gave these people microphones? www.granitesentry.comgeez................
Submitted by Patriot II on Mon, 03/14/2011 - 1:48pm.
how do you spell S-T-U-P-I-D????diversity
Submitted by Catoi on Mon, 03/14/2011 - 4:28pm.
LIberals argue that having too many white men in an organization is prima facie proof of race and sex discrimination. It is hypocritical to believe this, but not believe that having too many leftists is proof of ideological bias.