Skip to main content
  • CNSNews.com
  • MRC TV
  • Biz & Media
  • Culture & Media
  • Take Action!

Join Us @:
Facebook
Twitter
Amazon Kindle

Free email alerts!

NewsBusters logo
June 18, 2013
  • Home
  • Blogs
  • About
  • Forum
  • Take Action
  • Contact
  • Donate
  • Search
  • RSS

Hot Topics

  • Obama ScandalWatch
  • IRS Targets Tea Party
  • Censoring the News
Home » Blogs » Noel Sheppard's blog
  • New CNN Host Pushes Stronger Gun Laws, Mental Health Database
  • Liberal College Students Sign Petition to Make Spying on Fox News Legal
  • ABC Hypes Obama Family's 'Beautiful' Vacation, Avoids Any Hint of Extravagance
  • Piers Morgan Defends the Nanny State: 'People Need Nannying'
  • Liberal Pundit Marc Lamont Hill Condemns Photo of Obama Holding ‘Military Style’ Watergun
  • New Liberal Study 'Lends Credence to Conservative Charges' of Bias; Dramatic Media Tilt Toward 'Gay Marriage'
  • Senate Amnesty Supporters Boast Marco Rubio ‘Neutralized’ Limbaugh, Fox News
  • NBC Praises Bloomberg’s ‘Great Idea’ of Forcing New Yorkers to Store Rotting Trash in Apartments

Rachel Maddow Plays Gay Card: Defends Her Own Lies By Calling Critics Homophobes

By Noel Sheppard | February 26, 2011 | 12:46

A  A
Noel Sheppard's picture

The folks at MSNBC should be deeply embarrassed and ashamed of their prime time commentator Rachel Maddow.

Having been exposed by Politifact for lying last week about Wisconsin having a budget surplus, Maddow on Thursday hypocritically defended herself by playing nine cherry-picked words from the broadcast in question while disgracefully calling her critics homophobes (video follows with transcript and commentary):

RACHEL MADDOW, HOST: There are too many people who work too hard on this show for us to get slandered when we are in fact telling the truth.

Usually, somebody saying something untrue about MSNBC or about this show, usually, honestly, it doesn’t rise above the level of somebody being wrong on the Internet. But sometimes it’s real newspapers doing what looks like real fact-checking and they really get it wrong.

The right wing this week, for example, got very excited when a "St. Petersburg Times" project called PolitiFact called a piece of our reporting on the Wisconsin crisis false. It was specifically about Wisconsin’s budget. They said, quote, "Maddow and the others are wrong. There is indeed a projected deficit in Wisconsin."

Flashing red lights. Bells and whistles. Meter to red. Maddow lied. She said there is no budget shortfall in the state of Wisconsin. Roll the tape.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MADDOW: There is, in fact, a $137 million budget shortfall.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

MADDOW: "PolitiFact" ran a whole article about me supposedly denying the existence of a budget shortfall in Wisconsin. They say, quote, "Here’s the bottom line: there should be no debate on whether or not there is a shortfall. We rate Maddow’s take false."

Tape?

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MADDOW: There is in fact a $137 million budget shortfall.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

MADDOW: "PolitiFact" says I am false, false, because I denied there is a budget shortfall in Wisconsin.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MADDOW: There is in fact a $137 million budget shortfall.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

MADDOW: If you are somebody who does not bite your nails, but you would like to start, if you feel like reading the letters we sent to "PolitiFact" asking them to please run a correction on this, we have posted those letters on our blog so you, too, can share in our frustration. They have told us they do not intend to run a correction about their mistakes on this, which I should not find astonishing but I do.

"PolitiFact," you are wrong here on the facts and bluntly and you ought to correct it. Putting the word "fact" in your name does not grant you automatic mastery of the facts.

And that was her entire defense.

Rather than actually address the rest of her segment last Thursday, which as Politifact and NewsBusters reported did indeed inform viewers, “Despite what you may have heard about Wisconsin’s finances, Wisconsin is on track to have a budget surplus this year,” Maddow next went after Politifact for what she believed were prior mistakes in its findings about totally unrelated issues:

MADDOW: When Karl Rove wrote in "The Wall Street Journal" that Barack Obama had, quote, "The worst ratings of any president at the end of his first year," "PolitiFact" rated that mostly true, even though the approval rating Mr. Rove cited was 49 percent and Ronald Reagan posted a 48 percent approval rating at the end of his first year.

It did not matter to "PolitiFact" apparently. They rated that, the statement from Mr. Rove as mostly true. What? Yes. Because apparently the word "true" means a lot less than you think it means.

"PolitiFact" also said that Democratic Congresswoman Nita Lowey’s explanation of the Stupak Amendment, the abortion amendment to health reform, they called that a false analysis. When "PolitiFact" was challenged on that claim by the Web site "FireDogLake," "Politifact" reportedly conceded to "FireDogLake" that what Congresswoman Lowey had said about the bill, her analysis of the bill, they conceded that OK, what she said could be true in some cases. They just didn’t find it to be a likely predictor of what was going to happen in the future.

So, even though they apparently conceded it could be true, they decided to not run a correction and stick with their ruling that it was false. It could be true, but we’re going to call it false. Because what is true really? We have fact in our name.

I have no interest in defending Politifact on these issues for they are totally unrelated to the matter at hand. What Maddow did – and what her employers should be disgraced by – is defend herself with the classic misdirection of impugning the messenger while offering no real defense for being accused of lying other than the cherry-picked sentence, “There is, in fact, a $137 million budget shortfall.”

But what surrounded those nine words in her February 17 broadcast?

RACHEL MADDOW, HOST: I’m here to report that there is nothing wrong in the state of Wisconsin. Wisconsin is fine. Wisconsin is great, actually. Despite what you may have heard about Wisconsin’s finances, Wisconsin is on track to have a budget surplus this year.

I am not kidding. I’m quoting their own version of the Congressional Budget Office, the state’s own nonpartisan "assess the state’s finances" agency. That agency said the month that the new Republican governor of Wisconsin was sworn in, last month, that the state was on track to have a $120 million budget surplus this year.

So, then why exactly does Wisconsin look like this right now?

(VIDEO CLIP PLAYS)

MADDOW: Why is there a revolt in the American Midwest tonight? Why are we in day three of massive, massive protests -- real upheaval in Wisconsin’s capital city of Madison? Why are we seeing what was described today by my friend John Nichols, a seventh-generation Wisconsinite, as perhaps the biggest protests that have been seen in that state since Vietnam? Why is this -- look at this -- why is this happening?

As the state’s own finances show, it is not happening because people who work for the state are the cause of some horrible budget crisis. It’s not because teachers are lazy and rich. It’s not because greedy snowplow drivers have bankrupted the state somehow.

The state is not bankrupt. Even though the state had started the year on track to have a budget surplus -- now, there is, in fact, a $137 million budget shortfall. Republican Governor Scott Walker, coincidentally, has given away $140 million worth of business tax breaks since he came into office.

Hey, wait. That’s about exactly the size of the shortfall.

What is happening in Wisconsin right now has absolutely nothing to do with public workers. The headline here, the way this keeps getting shorthanded, is workers angry after state is forced by budget crisis to crack down.

That’s not what’s going on. The state is not being forced to crack down. A lot of states do have budget crises right now, but heading into this year, Wisconsin was not one of them.

Let’s be clear what came before and after the cherry-picked nine words that Maddow and Company used for her defense:

• I’m here to report that there is nothing wrong in the state of Wisconsin. Wisconsin is fine. Wisconsin is great, actually. Despite what you may have heard about Wisconsin’s finances, Wisconsin is on track to have a budget surplus this year.
• I’m quoting their own version of the Congressional Budget Office, the state’s own nonpartisan "assess the state’s finances" agency. That agency said the month that the new Republican governor of Wisconsin was sworn in, last month, that the state was on track to have a $120 million budget surplus this year.
• Even though the state had started the year on track to have a budget surplus -- now, there is, in fact, a $137 million budget shortfall. Republican Governor Scott Walker, coincidentally, has given away $140 million worth of business tax breaks since he came into office.
• A lot of states do have budget crises right now, but heading into this year, Wisconsin was not one of them.

Could she have been any clearer? This segment last Thursday was designed to dishonestly disprove the claim of a “$137 million budget shortfall” not support it, and that’s what Politifact accurately deemed was false:

[Maddow] added a kicker that is also making the rounds: Walker and fellow Republicans in the Legislature this year gave away $140 million in business tax breaks -- so if there is a deficit projected of $137 million, they created it.

Maddow and others making the claim all cite the same source for their information -- a Jan. 31, 2011 memo prepared by Robert Lang, the director of the nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau.

It includes this line: "Our analysis indicates a general fund gross balance of $121.4 million and a net balance of $56.4 million."

We were curious about claims of a surplus based on the fiscal bureau memo.

In writing it when it was released, reporters from the Journal Sentinel and Associated Press had put the shortfall at between $78 million and $340 million. That’s the projection for the end of the fiscal year, June 30, 2011.

Walker himself has settled on $137 million as the deficit figure, a number reporters have adopted as shorthand.

We re-read the fiscal bureau memo, talked to Lang, consulted reporter Jason Stein of the Journal Sentinel’s Madison Bureau, read various news accounts and examined the issue in detail.

Our conclusion: Maddow and the others are wrong.

There is, indeed, a projected deficit that required attention, and Walker and GOP lawmakers did not create it.

More on that second point in a bit.

The confusion, it appears, stems from a section in Lang’s memo that -- read on its own -- does project a $121 million surplus in the state’s general fund as of June 30, 2011.

But the remainder of the routine memo -- consider it the fine print -- outlines $258 million in unpaid bills or expected shortfalls in programs such as Medicaid services for the needy ($174 million alone), the public defender’s office and corrections. Additionally, the state owes Minnesota $58.7 million under a discontinued tax reciprocity deal.

The result, by our math and Lang’s, is the $137 million shortfall. […]

Meanwhile, what about Maddow’s claim -- also repeated across the liberal blogosphere -- that Walker’s tax-cut bills approved in January are responsible for the $137 million deficit?

Lang’s fiscal bureau report and news accounts addressed that issue as well.

The tax cuts will cost the state a projected $140 million in tax revenue -- but not until the next two-year budget, from July 2011 to June 2013. The cuts are not even in effect yet, so they cannot be part of the current problem.

Here’s the bottom line:

There is fierce debate over the approach Walker took to address the short-term budget deficit. But there should be no debate on whether or not there is a shortfall. While not historically large, the shortfall in the current budget needed to be addressed in some fashion. Walker’s tax cuts will boost the size of the projected deficit in the next budget, but they’re not part of this problem and did not create it.

We rate Maddow’s take False.

Indeed, and in her defense of her lies, Maddow on Thursday evening addressed none of the points made by Politifact instead just twice played for her audience nine words as a supposed declarative statement that were actually what the segment set out to disprove.

Pretty pathetic when you think about it, so pathetic that Politifact responded to her nonsense Friday:

Maddow's criticism in Thursday's show used artful editing and told an incomplete story. At issue is whether we checked the right factual claim. We examined her statement that Wisconsin "is on track to have a budget surplus this year." But she maintains that in the same segment, she made clear that she knew the state had a shortfall. (You can read a transcript of the entire segment here.)

We chose to examine her surplus claim because we had requests from many readers and it was the main focus at the beginning of her segment. It went on for nearly a minute. Her later statement about the shortfall was very brief and her main point seemed to be that the shortfall was created by $140 million in tax breaks for businesses. Still, we acknowledged in our article that she made that point.

In her criticism of PolitiFact Thursday night, Maddow misled viewers by repeatedly playing just a nine-word snippet of her saying that "There is in fact a $137 million budget shortfall." She neglected to include her full quote in context:

"There is in fact a $137 million budget shortfall. Republican Gov. Scott Walker, coincidentally, has given away $140 million worth of business tax breaks since he came into office. Hey, wait. That's about exactly the size of the shortfall."

That artful editing -- plus the fact that she didn't mention the more lengthy quote that we checked -- deprived viewers of the full context for her remarks and our reasoning for checking the claim we checked. We not only examined that claim, we also debunked the suggestion from Maddow and others that the tax breaks were the cause of the $137 million shortfall.

When her producer Bill Wolff e-mailed us earlier this week asking for a correction (his correspondence to us has been posted on the Rachel Maddow blog) we reviewed our work, watched the segment and decided no correction was warranted.

The Politifact article included some of those hysterical e-mail messages from Wollf. Readers are advised to get a good chuckle and review them

Unfortunately, there was nothing funny about Maddow's next offering during this segment Thursday:

MADDOW: Right now, on the Internet, there are people who are upset with a host at the FOX News channel whose name is Shepard Smith. They are upset because Mr. Smith cited the same data that I cited recently about big money outside contributors in the last election cycle.

According to opensecrets.org, which everybody cites, which tracks federal election filings and which nobody is impugning, here are those contributors. We’ve been talking about this for the last few days. Of the top 10 -- seven of the top 10 from the last election, seven of the top 10 are contributing to the right. Only three of them are contributing to the left. And the only three that are contributing to the left are unions.

This I believe is a key piece of analysis for understanding why the Republicans are going after unions. If you can dismantle unions, if you can weaken unions and the sector in the economy where unions are strongest is the public sector, if you can weaken unions, that has clear partisan implications. There are only three of the top 10 contributors of big money of outside groups in the last election who are not contributing to right wing causes and they are the unions.
But the right wing is on fire right now about Shep Smith citing that same information I cited because I also cited it and therefore, it must be false.

Because this particular burst of anger is a pure right wing Internet phenomenon, if you have seen anything about this, you have probably seen it retweeted at some point as Rachel Maddow is wrong and she looks like a man. Also favorite Rachel Maddow is wrong and also gay.

You know, just because you don’t like the way it sounds when I say it or you don’t like my hair cut, or you don’t like that I’m gay, it does not mean that what we say is not true. Those are the real numbers from opensecrets.org. Those are the real big money outside contributors from the last election cycle.

It was true when Open Secrets said it. It was true when I said it. It is true when Mr. Smith over at the FOX News channel said it.

And if you squint a little bit it is true, I do sometimes look like a dude, and I am definitely gay. Calling bullpuckey is fun. Calling bullpuckey is journalistically useful.

It is a neat idea to be able to call balls and strikes in facts and news, to fact check things you hear in the news and fact-check things you hear politicians and political figures say. People do get stuff wrong and it should be pointed out. When I confused the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution in terms of which one had a preamble, you may recall that I not only apologized for that. I sung and danced my apology to that.

When you get something wrong, it is both good practice and I find satisfying to own up to it. Say you got it wrong, learn something about it, and move on. But that should apply to everybody. That should apply to everybody even if you have the word "fact" in your name, or in what you say you are doing.

Calling somebody a liar when they are not lying is not the same as fact-checking. That is just bullpuckey, too.

Staggering nonsense.

As NewsBusters reported Wednesday, this all began with Maddow’s appearance on NBC’s “Tonight Show” the previous evening when she badly misrepresented data concerning campaign contributions during the 2010 elections:

MADDOW: But, if you look at like the last election cycle, of the top ten people donating money in that election, seven of them were giving to Republicans. It was all corporate interests and right-wing PACs and stuff. Seven of the ten were all right-wing. And the only three that weren't were unions.

As NewsBusters noted Wednesday, Maddow was wrong about this in a number of ways. Most importantly, with Leno, her term “top ten people donating money in that election” was proved false on several counts.

After a tip from a reader, more investigation was done, and it was determined that Maddow must have been talking about other data at the website Open Secrets which she proved by referring to it on Thursday.

As NewsBusters observed, when Maddow cited this data, she was either ignorantly or intentionally being imprecise. When she discussed this issue on her program Monday, she referred to "top ten big money contributors." But Tuesday on the “Tonight Show” she said "top ten people."

Defending herself from criticism Thursday, she said “big money outside contributors," but still has never said "top ten outside non-party committees" which is actually the data she’s been consistently citing without once identifying it properly.

In reality, there is a difference. Outside non-party committees are folks that contribute money for political causes but not specific candidates. That's why they're deemed "non-party." This is a smaller sub-section under the broader category of "outside spending groups."

If you look at all "outside spending groups" for 2010 at Open Secrets - which by Maddow's wording consistently has been the implication - you'll find that four of the top ten contributors were liberal with only two of them being unions.

This would have completely destroyed her point that unions are the only “big money outside contributors” giving to Democrats thereby invalidating her assertion that this is the reason Gov. Walker is trying to blame the “supposed” deficits on public sector unions in his state.

It appears that even after being exposed for this falsehood, Maddow still feels comfortable saying “big money outside contributors” even though the data she’s citing is “outside non-party committees.”

I guess “big money outside contributors” sounds much better than the truth. It also allows her to withhold from her viewers that by far the largest “big money outside contributor” in 2010 was the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

Maddow's point would be further refuted if one looked at total contributions of "outside non-party committees" over the past several election cycles rather than just the most recent one when a conservative wave took over the nation.

It is indeed true that outside conservative non-party committees donated far more than liberals in 2010 - $190 million to $94 million - but in 2008, these numbers were $160 million liberal vs. $120 million conservative. In 2006 it was $39 million liberal to $20 million conservative. In 2004 it was $121 million liberal to $69 million conservative.

As such, in the limited segment of contributors that Maddow has been harping on the past week - though not properly identifying them - liberal groups out-donated conservatives three of the last four election cycles.

And, as John Romano noted Thursday, if you look at the broader "outside spending groups" data - which Maddow has been implying - since 2004, Democrats have nothing to complain about:

According to OpenSecrets.org Republicans received $267.3 million vs. $201.4 million for Democrats in 2010.  Sounds damning.  $66 million is a big advantage.  However, the facts show that this advantage vacillates between Dem. and Repub.  For instance, the situation was reversed in 2008 with Democrats receiving $319.2 million vs. the Republican take $243.5 million. [...]

In 2006, the spending was basically even, which is interesting as the Democrats ran the table: CON $144.9 million vs. LIB $144.8 million.  2004 was a different story altogether.  Outside groups gave heavily to the Democrats that year.  A hefty $279.1 million for the Democrats vs. a relatively paltry $158.6 million for the GOP.

As such, I guess "big money contributions" is only a problem when liberals get out-funded.

But also pathetic was Maddow playing the gay card.

During her segment Thursday, Maddow indirectly referred to an article at Johnny Dollar's website concerning herself and Fox News's Shepard Smith.

She went on to say (with a picture of JohnnyDollar.us on the screen):

MADDOW: Because this particular burst of anger is a pure right wing Internet phenomenon, if you have seen anything about this, you have probably seen it retweeted at some point as Rachel Maddow is wrong and she looks like a man. Also favorite Rachel Maddow is wrong and also gay.

You know, just because you don’t like the way it sounds when I say it or you don’t like my hair cut, or you don’t like that I’m gay, it does not mean that what we say is not true. [...]

And if you squint a little bit it is true, I do sometimes look like a dude, and I am definitely gay.

If you look at Johnny Dollar's piece or mine, you will see no references to her appearance or sexual orientation.

None.

I don't care what political commentators look like or who they choose to couple with. For Maddow to use the gay card to evoke sympathy from her viewers, as if the only reason she's being criticized is because of her appearance or sexual orientation, is disgraceful.

We've learned - and, of course, predicted! - that conservatives aren't allowed to criticize Barack Obama because he's black. Virtually all critiques of the 44th President by people on the right are automatically assumed by the Left to be racially-oriented.

If this is now going to extend to gay people such that any critique of someone like Maddow is presumed to be homophobic, it will be just another advantage the Left has in sheltering itself from criticism.

If the folks at MSNBC support this nonsense, they should be just as ashamed of themselves as Maddow should be for advancing it.

On a more personal note, I find Maddow's behavior this past week frightening. Although I strongly disagree with her views, I still have typically found her to be a hard-working, dedicated political commentator striving when possible to be factually accurate.

Unlike her hero Keith Olbermann, she typically is fast to respond to mistakes that she's made and address them, although not always to my liking.

However, it is clear by her antics in recent months that facts are no longer as important to Maddow as the agenda. Maybe this is due to the shellacking she and her ilk took at the polls in November, and like so many on the left she's fearing her dream of America becoming a socialist utopia is coming to an end.

To be sure, there were many who thought the exit of Olbermann was the beginning of a move by MSNBC to straighten its act out and actually become a news network.

The recent behavior of the remaining prime time hosts including Maddow - as well as the pathetic addition of the totally hapless Cenk Uygur whose program is totally unwatchable! - suggests this is not the case, and that MSNBC will continue to be the biggest joke in television journalism.

It's hard to believe the new owners at Comcast are happy about this.

About the Author

Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Click here to follow Noel Sheppard on Twitter.
  • Rachel Maddow
  • Scott Walker
  • MSNBC
  • NBC
  • Rachel Maddow Show
  • Tonight Show
  • Noel Sheppard's blog
  • Login to post comments
  • Printer-friendly version
Stop George Soros

Comments

And Shep was wrong too...how

Submitted by d1carter on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 1:06pm.

And Shep was wrong too...how does that fit Maddow's narrative?

  • Login to post comments

Ironic

Submitted by Jerry Mack on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 9:07pm.

I find it ironic that madcow is using anyone at Fox News for validity.

  • Login to post comments

Maddow does what Obama does.

Submitted by Ashrak on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 1:10pm.

Take every position on every topic, depending on where you are and whoyou are talking to so that whenever challenged she can bring a quote to bear in attempt to "defend" herself and "prove" others wrong.

The sad fact is that the progressives have lied so much that folks are finally starting to see it every time they turn around.

Rachel, do have fun watching paint dry from your corner. Just remember, the situation you find yourself in is the result of playing the part of a journalist while wearing a set of blinders larger than Obama's ears.

Yer busted, Rachel. NewsBusted.  You will only experience more of the same until you do what you should have been doing all along. That being, TELL THE TRUTH.

That an individual right exists requires that some policy positions be removed from the table of debate.
  • Login to post comments

Sorry, Rach

Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 1:14pm.

The fact that you beclown yourself doesn't bother me a bit....so don't accuse me of being a homophobe.

What does bother me is the lying, distorting, and democrat talking points.

Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)

  • Login to post comments

"What does bother me is the

Submitted by Ponsonby Britt on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 8:38pm.

"What does bother me is the lying, distorting, and democrat talking points."

And these three are distinguishable from one another in what way?

  • Login to post comments

I would have expected better from someone of her "education"

Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 1:19pm.

We may be witnessing the beginning of the end for Maddow's show - or maybe we're closer to the middle than the beginning.

Then again, maybe not, as perhaps the tax accountant and lawyer types at COMCAST have noodled out a way to use MSNBC as a big, fat tax write-off and have decided to allow it to just drift along its current course unmolested.

Either that, or they are planning on selling it and trying to keep the price down in order to make it financially attractive.

LOL - Maybe they can sell it to Current TV, assuming Tipper hasn't completely cleaned Al out.

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

  • Login to post comments

Dave

Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 1:43pm.

You know Owl has money hidden from Tipper. That is MO.

IT was sad that Elizabeth Edwars didn't leave Silky Pony broke before she died. He was never named in her will so I think she got the manison in Blue Heaven.  How nuch more she got I don't knwo.

A well regulated militia being necessary to a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
  • Login to post comments

So not only does she look

Submitted by Thoreau on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 1:31pm.

So not only does she look like a man, but she's saying she's gay too?  So, what.  Does that make you even more of a moron now?

  • Login to post comments

Bravo

Submitted by Vivaldi5 on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 1:38pm.

Great job on this, Mr. Sheppard. I think this clearly demonstrates, if further proof were needed, that MSNBC is effectively no longer a news organization. It is a propaganda outlet which no longer can make even a convincing pretense of correcting its own mistakes.

I can almost hear the people "who work too hard on this show" trying to figure out how to spin the previous night's blatant untruths on that evening's broadcast:

"Can't we just say it's the right wing like we always do?"

"Unfortunately, it's also Politifact calling Rachel a liar."

"Ooh, that's a problem. Here, let me play around with last night's video a bit and I'll come up with something."

"Great, Bill, you work on that. What do the rest of you have?"

"Um...I've got a commenter on some blog nobody's ever heard of saying Rachel looks like a man."

"No way of pretending that was said by Noel Sheppard or Johnny Dollar, is there?"

"After what happened to Eric Lipton this week, you really want me to try that?"

"Erp...no, no--come on, there's gotta be some way of fudging that so it sounds like it's coming from them without us actually saying so. We'll ask Rachel if she can improvise something...."

It's almost enough to make me suggest that NBC bring back their "America's Toughest Jobs" show and set the first episode on the set of Maddow's or Cenk what's-his-name's show. Thinking up effective lies--and then trying to spin them once you get tagged for lying--has got to be the most unrewarding job in TV today. Gotta feel at least a little sorry for the creative staffs (they're probably not all immoral slobs like the hosts--some of them probably just want to feed their families and landed in a really horrible way of doing so!).

  • Login to post comments

Liberal: Obama has done a

Submitted by Van Halen on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 1:41pm.

Liberal: Obama has done a great job with the economy! It's booming!

Me - Um, no. Here's the evidence that the economy is in shambles. Record deficits, record unemployment, record bank failures, record foreclosures, record trade deficits, record number of people on food stamps...

Liberal: Well, Obama has done a great job with the US foreign policy! We're respected now!

Me: Um, no. Here's the evidence of how Obama waffled with the Egypt crisis and how we're in a rut with an inability to do much of anything any more. Obama has been largely inactive while the Middle East is in its current turmoil. Additionally, we're still hated by the same countries who have always hated us. No one really knows what the Obama Docrtrine is, including Barack Obama.

Liberal: Well, the Democrats made the right choice getting such a brilliant politician elected in Barack Obama!

Me: Um, no. Since Barack has been at the helm, the Democrats have lost the House, most state governorships, a number of state houses, and a bunch of Senate seats. In addition, a large and successful grassroots movement has been mobilized against Liberalism in the form of the TEA Party because of Obama's reckless behavior.

Liberal: Well, Hope and Change is right around the corner!

Me: Um, no. Gas, food and clothing prices are skyrocketing. A record number of homes are about to be foreclosed on and many banks are still failing. Unemployment continues to worsen.

Liberal: Well, Obama stands for the unions!

Me: That's true, except that he promised he'd march with them and now has abandoned them. Additionally, he's decided to make his stand with unions whose salaries are paid by the American taxpayer. So, Obama has now officially made his stand against the American taxpayer in a state matter. Something he had no business doing.

Liberal: You're a homophobe!

Me: <sigh>.

  • Login to post comments

And don't forget...

Submitted by falcon on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 1:51pm.

...racist and right-wing crackpot. :-)

“I will not stand by and watch this great country destroy itself under mediocre leadership, that drifts from one crisis to the next, eroding our national will and purpose.” – Ronald Reagan, July 17, 1980.

  • Login to post comments

Well observed

Submitted by Slyrr on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 4:56pm.

Very well observed.  Everything liberals and leftists said about Obama and his miraculous presidency has been a filthy, stinking lie.  Americans now know that they were sold a bill of goods in the form of Obama and his rib-chomping wife.  Nothing they promised has come to fruition, except for the government siezing control of health care, which no one in the country wanted (except for a few fools who wanted to be important but who don' t know what's really going on).

The Middle East is in flames - and what does Obama do?  He holds a 'Tribute to Motown' while Arab countries burn and people are slaughtered in Lybia. 

The sooner we vote this clown and his entourage of kooks out of office, the better off we'll be.

If a Liberal/Democrat politician/media figure wants to put their arms around you, or pat you on the back, all they're doing is looking for a good place to stick a knife.
  • Login to post comments

"Homophobe" isn't a real

Submitted by robert108 on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 1:48pm.

"Homophobe" isn't a real word; it was concocted by the homosexual activists to smear normal people who don't support their agenda.

  • Login to post comments

well lets make up a new phrase*

Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 2:34pm.

Retardimus  Journo-Rejection...a total dislike and rejection of any and all things stupid journolists/newscasters regardless of other organic, psychological or functional qualities . Phobia is inappropriate here Ms Maddow since no one fears you.

  • Login to post comments

Judging by Maddow's increased

Submitted by ant on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 1:50pm.

Judging by Maddow's increased workload of carrying water for the 'progressive movement' she may want to keep that "Department of Corrections" graphic as a permanent corner of the screen.

  • Login to post comments

I am a man and she makes me

Submitted by liberalsarefunny on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 1:51pm.

I am a man and she makes me hot...

  • Login to post comments

jw5745

Submitted by well99 on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 4:47pm.

Just curious.Are you stationed in Antarctica or somewhere really remote?

  • Login to post comments

Just as sure as the sun rises in the east, there is jw5745---

Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 7:17pm.

making my day. :o) Thank you, jw!
"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
  • Login to post comments

Always happy to entertain the

Submitted by liberalsarefunny on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 8:11pm.

Always happy to entertain the troops....

  • Login to post comments

The gay card

Submitted by BobcatConservative on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 1:55pm.

Typical Maddow fashion to cherry-pick quotes to further her agenda. I honestly believe that Maddow thinks Democrats are ALWAYS right NO MATTER WHAT because 'Republicans are racist homophobes' and because of this she thinks it's ok to distort facts about the 'evil Republicans.'

Bleeding heart liberals like Maddow can never own up to their own dishonesty, they just hide behind their emotions, as if their passion gives them merit to make up facts and act like a child. And Maddow playing the gay card - your lies have nothing to do with you being gay. NO ONE CARES THAT YOU ARE GAY BUT YOURSELF, MADCOW.

Heres to hoping that Jon Stewart rips on MSNBC more. The lying socialist journalists over there deserve to be called out by the more sensible, rational liberals like Stewart.

  • Login to post comments

There is no deficit ...

Submitted by JakeMo on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 2:02pm.

In the mind of a liberal, as long as there is still money in the hands of private citizens, there is never a deficit. They believe the only "shortfall" is the shortage of laws designed to confiscate private property.

  • Login to post comments

Jake, you're partially right.

Submitted by Smartypants on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 2:55pm.

Jake, you're partially right.  The deficit would be a HUGE problem to the left if a Republican were in the WH.  Deficits are only a problem when a Republican is seen as running things.  In fact, everything else would be a monstrous mess if a Republican were in the WH.   We'd be hearing about the economy, unemployment, national debt, etc. on a daily basis from the left and their media friends.  There would be warnings of coming doom continually.  This is all politics, plain and simple.  When Democrats are in charge, nothing is a problem.  When Republicans are in charge, nothing goes right.

 

 

  • Login to post comments

Thanks, but ...

Submitted by JakeMo on Sun, 02/27/2011 - 6:57pm.

We're both right. But you're talking about their message. I'm talking about their psychology.

In reality, they are not truly bothered by deficits when Republicans create them as long as the deficit is the result of propping up entitlement schemes the Democrats already put in place. They only pretend to be bothered by deficits then because they want voters to see the parties as no different in practice, but only different in their level of concern for 'the people.' That's their message.

In their minds however (certainly in the mind of Maddow), they look at all the money that exists as being the rightful property of the state which is only put in the hands of the people as a magnanimous gesture. It can be reclaimed at any time. This philosophy is descended from the same mentality that propped up the Manor System in the Middle Ages and the Plantation System of Antebellum America. It's a perspective on the world so foreign to conservatives that most don't even recognize its source.

  • Login to post comments

Madcow Maddow Babling again...

Submitted by NVRAT on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 2:03pm.

What a laugh, you screwed up and, now are trying to say everybody else is crazy. I don`t think so Maddcow you were caught in an out right LIE again. Why don`t you call Olberman for a job with that other network, let see what was it called? oh well, it does not make a difference you both are irrelavent, besides, Comcast needs money and you sure are not helping their bottom line, it will not take them very long to realize you are a drag on their income and will be fired. What a blessing for everyone.

NVRAT
  • Login to post comments

→ Poor, poor Rachel

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 2:03pm.

I think what she's trying to say is that she's entitled to lie because she is gay.

  • Login to post comments

What Does Noel Mean?

Submitted by Ogundipe S.O. on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 2:08pm.

''The folks at MSNBC should be deeply embarrassed and ashamed of their prime time commentator Rachel Maddow.''

 

Does that mean there are some people, in MSDNC, who really have some dignity? Only in Noel's World.

There's Nothing the Government Gives the Citizens that Has Not Already Been Taking Away From the Citizenry.
  • Login to post comments

MSNBC...

Submitted by ds7 on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 2:28pm.

MSNBC is just one of many legacy media operations i no-longer consider credible or worthy of watching.  if their weren't called out on they hypocrisy and lies by newsbusters, the blaze or drudge, most thinking people wouldn't even know people like maddow, schultz, o'donnell, scarborough or the nightly news talking heads even existed.

fight the propaganda...refuse to engage their messaging.  you have the power of the remote!

  • Login to post comments

Actually to your point, I had

Submitted by Joe C Camel on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 4:59pm.

Actually to your point, I had never heard of any of them before coming to the mentioned sites. I still don't watch them, just wait to hear their babble from another source. Saves my sanity..

  • Login to post comments

MSNBC is not embarrassed by

Submitted by tampamom25 on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 2:35pm.

MSNBC is not embarrassed by Maddow and her regular pattern of lies.  Are liberals actually capable of being embarrassed????  They keep her because she lies and there are actually people who believe her and pass her false information around. But more and more I think that she and the other liberal liars are actually doing conservatives a favor because people are seeing them for the lying individuals that they are.  Keep outing them:o)

  • Login to post comments

Very True

Submitted by libfail on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 3:29pm.

On a forum I use, an idiot has been spouting the tax breaks and all of a sudden having a budget deficit bull.  

http://liberalfail.com
  • Login to post comments

MSNBC'S entire lineup should be...

Submitted by PrairieSky on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 3:27pm.

an embarrassment to this network. There is not one single on-air personality there that is worth a cup of spit...Madcow, Matthews, Uygur, Schultz and O'Donnell in particular. Madcow is doing what some who are members of a minority do when they are challenged with the facts and know they've lost an argument or been caught in a lie...They pull out either the race card, the religious card (as in the case of radical Muslims), the gender card, or as in Madcow's case, the gay card. It's a gutless and dishonest tactic to use and immediately reveals just what a coward the person who uses it truly is. 

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan 

  • Login to post comments

Someone has a race card at MSNBC?

Submitted by beauxdog on Sun, 02/27/2011 - 10:24am.

Thinking... thinking...

  • Login to post comments

LOL - Maybe Red Ed will throw down the crazy card...

Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 3:38pm.

...next time he gets nailed and says "They are just going after me 'cause I'm nuts."

Hey, it could happen. :-)

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

  • Login to post comments

Ooooh...The "crazy" card...

Submitted by PrairieSky on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 3:45pm.

That's a good one! It should definitely be added to the list, and certainly fits where Schultz is concerned.

Good catch!

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan 

  • Login to post comments

PS,

Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 5:42pm.

The funny thing is, I can picture Ed actually doing that.

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

  • Login to post comments

Dave...So can I...

Submitted by PrairieSky on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 8:34pm.

I wouldn't put it past him.

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan 

  • Login to post comments

Wow, I'm impressed.  Rachel

Submitted by Miss_Me_Yet on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 4:09pm.

Wow, I'm impressed.  Rachel Maddow is special, she takes a likin, and just keeps on tickin.

Liberals ... we can't live with them, they couldn't survive without us ...

  • Login to post comments

They have found a replacement

Submitted by ricklail on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 4:12pm.

They have found a replacement for Olber dork.

A well regulated militia being necessary to a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
  • Login to post comments

Two bit propagandist

Submitted by Kuso Jiji on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 4:16pm.

Maddow is just a second rate Leni Riefenstahl if you ask me.

  • Login to post comments

Ms. Maddow & " homophobia "

Submitted by sarge329 on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 4:25pm.

I, for one, couldn't give a rip what Ms. Maddow does behind closed doors. I believe that is a personal choice, and should be that way. Just don't shove it in my face, both literally and figuratively. But, more than that, a " journalist " should be objective and state the basics of Jour-nalism 101. That being, who/what/where/when/how/why. Anything further becomes commen-tary. If you want to be a commentator, fine, just say so. Be honest. Or is that too much to ask?

  • Login to post comments

Race card/Gay card players are Cads, not cards...

Submitted by Slyrr on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 4:50pm.

She's taking cues from her 'King' Obama.

Every time anyone questions Obama's policies for the horrible disasters that they are, Obama and every one of his apologists pull out the race card.  'You're only saying his stupid policies won't work because he's a BLACK man!'

Looks like Maddy-poo thinks she can get away with the same dirty trick.

'You can't point out the truth behind my flawed, irresponsible and outrageous lies!  I'm gay and you can't tell gay people they're wrong!'

If a Liberal/Democrat politician/media figure wants to put their arms around you, or pat you on the back, all they're doing is looking for a good place to stick a knife.
  • Login to post comments

Homophobia card

Submitted by BikerHoop on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 5:25pm.

When are these 'folks' gonna wake up and realize the race card and the homphobe card are both dead? They've played them so much it's gotten to the point they don't mean anything anymore. It's kinda like the boy who cried wolf.

So Maddow... get over yourself. We don't care if you're gay. We don't care if you think we're racist. We don't care if you think we're homophobes. In all honesty, we don't care about anything you think.

  • Login to post comments

It is kind of like hiding behind mommy's skirt

Submitted by Lipton on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 6:11pm.

Grow up Rachel.  We don't care who you partner with.  We care how well you do your job.  

I'd like to thank Hollywood for renewing my interest in reading.
  • Login to post comments

She's a lesbian?

Submitted by Army Brat on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 6:28pm.

Never thought about it.   Don't care.

islam is a lie and Truth is killing it.
  • Login to post comments

Army Brat, That is the one thing Rachel and I have in common

Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 6:43pm.

:-^)

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

  • Login to post comments

Dave,.. I'm a lesbian with a

Submitted by ant on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 7:04pm.

Dave,.. I'm a lesbian with a Y chromosome too....feels good to finally say it. If I prefer a particular type or hair color of women, can I hide behind that when I'm wrong?

  • Login to post comments

ant,

Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 7:41pm.

Back in the day when I was working downtown for some engineering firm or other, I had a friend who worked in a print shop that we did a lot of business with.

We spent many a Friday hanging out in a nearby watering hole downing a few adult beverages while waiting out the traffic, which in Atlanta is pretty thick. We used to tell people we were male lesbians, and we would sometimes get a chuckle, but often we would get a strange look.

One day I dropped some drawings off at his shop to have copies made, and he asked for a copy of my driver's license pic, but wouldn't tell me why.

I went by the next day to pick up the copies, and he handed me a card with my name and picture on it, laminated and everything, that said "Certified" Male Lesbian across the top. It was really well done. He made one for himself as well, and we had a lot of fun with those when we would hook up after work.

I went out to visit my brother at CU sometime later, and returned the favor by getting him a Beaver Liquors T-shirt. I got one for myself, too, both with the big Rolling Stones looking tongue on them, and we wore them the next time we went to the bar.

LOL - Life was so much more fun back then.

-Dave

Vote for the American in November

  • Login to post comments

LOL-Nice,Dave.

Submitted by ant on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 9:57pm.

At the risk of hi-jacking a thread, you reminded me of something I thought was funny.

I used to work with a building crew on a site next to a coffee shop that employed many young girls. One of the guys on our crew (call him Joe) was blessed with, even as a guy, you could recognize as the kind of looks that attract women, but he was also kind of a "player", and women also can recognize that quality. Well, he kept hitting on this one particular waitress, but knowing his type, she refused his advances and eventually told him that she was a lesbian.

Giving up on her, he focused his attentions on the next waitress, but was rejected.

One morning, as I was standing outside with him, a few of the girls walked by on their way to work and we exchanged polite 'hellos'. After they passed,  Joe turned to me and said, "Can you believe all those girls in that shop are lesbians?"

I just laughed and never said a word.

  • Login to post comments

sorry...double posted

Submitted by Army Brat on Sun, 02/27/2011 - 4:53am.


islam is a lie and Truth is killing it.
  • Login to post comments

Yes...

Submitted by Army Brat on Sun, 02/27/2011 - 4:51am.

A Lesbian trapped in a mans body..

islam is a lie and Truth is killing it.
  • Login to post comments

And all this time ...

Submitted by NL207 on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 10:00pm.

I thought she was a guy in drag.

  • Login to post comments

I am a man and Maddow makes

Submitted by jwrjr on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 7:44pm.

I am a man and Maddow makes me nauseous.

  • Login to post comments

Much much too much to read about Maddow.

Submitted by Texndoc on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 8:02pm.

If she's playing the lesbian card, her ratings must now be a quarter of what they were.  BTW, how sweet is it that on Friday's MSNBC skips Special Ed for the prison shows?

  • Login to post comments

Looks like 'gay' and 'black' are the new 'girls'...

Submitted by Slyrr on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 8:19pm.

Remember not too long ago when it was considered almost a crime for a guy to hit a girl?  It became a catch phrase of sorts:  'You can't hit me - I'm just a girl!' 

'Just a girl'.  It was spoken like an acknowledgement that girls are weaker - inferior as it were - to boys.  Nowadays though, they demand equal treatment.  Which means I guess that girls are perfectly fine with it if boys treat them as equals.  They must want boys to clobber them at will and punch girls just as hard in a fight as they would a guy.

But today, there seems to be a new set of labels that you can cringe behind like a coward and expect other people to treat you as an inferior.  The labels are 'gay' and 'black'.  All you have to do is say 'You can't attack me - I'm just a gay!'  or 'Don't hit me - I'm just a black person!'

So what is this?  Are gays and blacks admitting that they think they're an inferior class of people and that they need 'special treatment' because of their weakness?  How does that tally with their demands for 'equal treatment'?  They can't have it both ways.  They can't demand to be treated just the same as everyone else, and at the same time expect everyone else to treat them with kid gloves because they're 'different'.

The truth is - all their caterwauling for special treatment because of their race and gayness is just a trick.  They want it to be a shield.  They want to be able to launch all kinds of outragous attacks, and lies, and get away with all kinds of libel and slander.  And if anyone dares to respond to their lies, they run screaming for cover with their hands over their heads.  'Don't hit me, I'm just a gay!'

If a Liberal/Democrat politician/media figure wants to put their arms around you, or pat you on the back, all they're doing is looking for a good place to stick a knife.
  • Login to post comments

Still Ignorant

Submitted by Free Stinker on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 8:31pm.

Gay or straight, Rachel is still, IMHO, an ignorant fool.
 

 

   /// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 ///    خال

  • Login to post comments

Rachel Maddow’s Brother New President of NRA

Submitted by GlenStanish on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 8:32pm.

According to the Daily Rash, Maddow's brother was just named the new president of the NRA! How's that for weird?   http://www.thedailyrash.com/?p=1075

  • Login to post comments

Phobia

Submitted by GregE on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 9:54pm.

–noun a persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it.    "Homophobia" is used amazing wrong in our society (by design).  Phobia is a fear.  Calling disgreement with homosexuality a "fear" is by design.  But I guess politically "correct" trumps grammatically or factually "correct" far to often anymore.  "Homophobia" is just another shining example.
  • Login to post comments

→ Homophobia

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 9:50pm.

Strictly speaking, it would mean "irrational fear of man"

So if we're talking about Rachel Maddow . . .

  • Login to post comments

Homophobia means ....

Submitted by NL207 on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 9:59pm.

nothing.  It is a word fabricated by Gay Activists to impugn those who reject their immoral life style.

by 1971, from homosexual + -phobia. Related: Homophobe; homophobia (which is said to date from 1969).

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=homophobic

 

1969.  Coined in our own era at the beginning of the Gay mainstreaming movement. 

Heterophobe : A homosexual with a hard*n for anybody that doesn't accept his or her lifestyle choices as "normal".

  • Login to post comments

Madcow

Submitted by batcat on Sat, 02/26/2011 - 11:09pm.

That's why she's called Madcow, and she works for MethNBC.

  • Login to post comments

Richard Maddow

Submitted by RightRealDeal on Sun, 02/27/2011 - 12:53am.

Rich:  Give it up, you stuff is getting so old, either stop carrying the bags or water for the left loons or just leave before you get the Comcast boot.    Stop with the gay crap too, no one cares that you look like a man anyway.  No one but the left loons watches you, when are you on PMSNBC?    Are you on Current TV with The Chief News Officer, herr OLbie?  and Al Bore, founder of the Internet?  You must be on After Kill it/Cook it/ Eat it.

  • Login to post comments

Ralph Madcow

Submitted by hughglass on Sun, 02/27/2011 - 7:14am.

Can add paranoid tp dishonest.

  • Login to post comments

Gay Hypocrisy and Intolerance

Submitted by Fenwick on Sun, 02/27/2011 - 11:14am.

I witness it firsthand. Try being a gay conservative - you won't have any friends with whom you can have a frank discussion about anything other than sports and the weather. Most of my former "friends" will have nothing to do with me because of my beliefs.

This is what you need to understand: the Left is all about identity politics and its corresponding theme that its role is to "protect" certain groups ("the poor", Blacks, Hispanics, "workers", women, gays, etc. etc.) in need of their help in exchange for votes. Therein lies all of its power: it is a dysfunctional, seemingly symbiotic relationship in which the groups in (perceived) need of protection create a huge voting block that puts progressives in postions of power where they, in turn, give those groups all the goodies they want so they'll keep voting for them. The linchpin in the relationship is that the groups have to believe that they are IN NEED OF HELP AND PROTECTION - otherwise it all falls apart. Therefore, the Left has no place for individualism, self-sufficiency, independence and personal responsibility because it undermines their role as Rescuer. Its very survival DEPENDS on the perception that racism, injustice, homophobia, misogyny and you-name-it-ism ALWAYS EXIST... so they'll make it up if they have to! Obama's "my brother's keeper" theme is another example. (The absurdity of that whole argument is another post. Suffice it to say, no person needs "keeping.")

When I tell my gay friends that marraige - for anyone - is not a "right" and further explain that there is no such thing as a "right" that entails the provision of goods or services by someone else, they go berserk. I do not need the government to "help" me, as if I'm some inept, weak pitiful being. The only thing I need from the government is to leave me alone to live my life as I see fit.

  • Login to post comments

Fenwick

Submitted by ant on Sun, 02/27/2011 - 1:27pm.

You're last sentence about sums it up. I think many people put into a position now who actually do need help were put there in the first place because the government refuses to leave things alone. We've gone from an idea that the fed is in place as an agreement between the States to the point where some (especially the media elites) believe the government's role is legislation, legislation, and some more legislation. Nowadays they are applauded for how many laws they have passed when it should be just the opposite.

  • Login to post comments

rachael maddow is a...

Submitted by ckc1227 on Sun, 02/27/2011 - 4:19pm.

truthophobe. She has an extreme and irrational fear of the truth.


  • Login to post comments

Ray Ray's "Checkers" moment....

Submitted by bigdaddy on Sun, 02/27/2011 - 10:37pm.

...NB readers will understand the analogy right away.  For members of Ray-Ray's staff, hint, hint, use Google.

Hey Ray Ray, bigdaddy digs chicks too, therefore, bigdaddy = lesbian.

  • Login to post comments

if homophobic is a desire to avoid queers...

Submitted by wizardjr on Mon, 02/28/2011 - 12:10am.

Then what is the phobic name for the desire to avoid dip$hits like Ms. Madcow??

  • Login to post comments

This happens to all ideologues

Submitted by Mike009 on Mon, 02/28/2011 - 8:55am.

"Calling somebody a liar when they  are not lying..."   Maybe someday Maddow and other Lefties will stop saying "Bush lied and people died."  He didn't - the intelligence was wrong - but they still say it.  

  • Login to post comments

Gay Card

Submitted by stonermc on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 12:37pm.

You mentioned that Rachel Maddow played the gay card.

I believe she was referring to some of things that are said about her on sites like Newsbusters, though no site or blog was cited.

You cannot deny that RM has been referred to in rather hateful and homophobic comments on this site.

I imagine you feel that as she's a public figure, she's fair game. However, how does it add to your argument if you attack someone for their looks, their gender or their sexuality.

It's in the comments under this article and some disgusting ones here

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/02/28/maddow-continues-misrepresent-union-campaign-contributions

 

Disagree with Maddow... but why bring her looks, her gender or her sexual preference into it?

You can say that the comments under articles on Newsbusters represent free speech (although at times it seems more like hate speech) but you are responsible for the content on here... or perhaps the comments on here and other RW sites should be put under a microscope and discussed on TV.. like Bill O'Reilly does on left wing blogs.

  • Login to post comments

A 3 day

Submitted by UpNorth on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 12:44pm.

wonder, and your two posts that you comment on are about Maddow?  I think Rach's boyfriend, er, girlfriend just showed up? 

To re-elect Obama would be like the Titanic backing up and hitting the iceberg again.
  • Login to post comments

that or a producer from the

Submitted by Miss_Me_Yet on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 12:51pm.

that or a producer from the Daily Show trolling for material.

Liberals ... we can't live with them, they couldn't survive without us ...

  • Login to post comments

So...

Submitted by stonermc on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 7:11pm.

Because I'm new I shouldn't say anything?  And because I don't agree with you I should stay away.  So much for debate.

Perhaps to keep with the tone and I should call you all typical right wing, gun-loving, racist, homophobic nutjobs.  happy now? 

  • Login to post comments

stoner

Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 7:24pm.

Do you remember the Playboy story of conservative women libs would like to hate f*&k?  Do you read what is said on left wing blogs about Michelle Malkin or Michelle Bachman?  Just go to Twitter and read what people say to Malkin. 

You go clean that hate up and then try to dare to lecture people here.  No one here talks about raping liberal women or killing them.  When liberals clean up then you come back and lecture.  Not until then.
 

Proud member of the 53%!
  • Login to post comments

comments on Rachel

Submitted by Agnostic on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 12:51pm.

Because of Rachel's bias, false claims and accusations I don't judge the personal insults too much.  Afterall, she has on occassion spoken of conservatives or more directly Tea Partiers in very, very unflattering terms.

However, I do agree with most of your post because looks, gender or sexual preference has nothing to do with it (other than explaining some of her bias) and the same old insults make for boring reading.

. . Socialist = Modern Liberal = Parasitoid
  • Login to post comments

teabaggers

Submitted by stonermc on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 7:14pm.

Rachel has made fun of Tea Party members, mostly because they chose to call themselves Teabaggers.. then because of their 'policies' .

However, she doesn't come anywhere near the disgusting comments I've read on Newsbusters or other RW sites about her and her partner.

The tone of argument needs to be looked at here. It's very worrying.

  • Login to post comments

Well, you're living up to your name, stoner...

Submitted by PrairieSky on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 7:54pm.

You must be stoned if you honestly believe that Tea Party activists have ever referred to themselves as as Teabaggers...That is a lie, because they haven't...Ever. I am a Tea Party member, and since you are obviously in need of enlightenment on this subject, it is the unhinged left that began calling those in the Tea Party movement the sexually vulgar term, teabaggers, you fool. Before you wander over here to NB next time, at least get your facts straight. 

Crawl on back to your hole over at Daily Kos, DU, HuffPo, or wherever it is that you came from...No one here is interested in your lies and misrepresentations.

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan 

  • Login to post comments

actually

Submitted by stonermc on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:34pm.

I could probably find some tea party member who has used the term but I do remember it started when it was decided to teabag the whitehouse.. and I believe Fox News may have been the instigator.

Sorry, I don't do drugs.

  • Login to post comments

"actually"

Submitted by Agnostic on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:41pm.

"Actually" should not be followed up by "probably" and "I believe".  Your welcome to your opinions but they are actually your opinions.

. . Socialist = Modern Liberal = Parasitoid
  • Login to post comments

A liberal's opinions...

Submitted by PrairieSky on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 10:08pm.

are facts...At least, that is, to them.

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan 

  • Login to post comments

stoner...Prove it, friend...

Submitted by PrairieSky on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 10:08pm.

And unless and until you do, which you won't be able to because no proof exists except in your fevered imagination, you should be more careful about what you state as fact. "K"??

And don't apologize about not doing drugs...You're probably one of the few libs that don't.

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan 

  • Login to post comments

here you go

Submitted by stonermc on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 12:14am.

here are some

http://teabagparty.org/

http://video.foxnews.com/v/3926008/a-2009-tea-party

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lord_mariser/4957359545/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/christaki/4002434818/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/illumiquest/3446464942/

  • Login to post comments

stonermc

Submitted by ant on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 1:00am.

The earliest dates on the photos in your links are 4/15/09. There were already articles on the "joke" in March of 2009, followed by the giggling, immature, (and homophobic, to use a lefty term) use of the word by David Shuster and Anderson Cooper in early April 2009 before the tax day protest (Tea meaning Taxed.Enough.Already., in case you didn't know). So by that evidence the protestors were 'adopting' the insult, much like Yankee Doodle Dandy was adopted after first being used as an insult by the British. Again these are protest signs meant to be humorous or intended to throw an insult back at someone, it was not adopted as a name for the movement or group.

The first link goes to the original plan of mailing 'tea bags' to the White House as a symbolic protest, hardly proof of any group calling itself 'teabaggers'. If the bag used for brewing tea fills liberals with uncontrollable 4th-grade giggling fits, then I suppose the words 'wood', 'nut', and 'crowing cock' send you guys rolling to the floor like Beavis and Butthead.

To be fair, here's a link where someone was looking for the origin to, surprise, use it as evidence on conservative websites. Probably you, using another sock-puppet registration from way back.

http://ask.metafilter.com/153114/origins-of-the-term-teabag-party-andor-teabaggers

  • Login to post comments

Thanks for such a great response...

Submitted by PrairieSky on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 1:33am.

You got back to him before I could.

It has also always been my understanding that David Shuster and Anderson Cooper were the first ones to use the term teabagger (and not in a good way), before, as you pointed out, the Tax Day protests took place. After that, the MSM picked it up and ran with it, using it every chance they could. I also remember the original idea of mailing teabags, as a symbol of protest only, to the WH, and never at anytime that I recall did the people involved in the early Tea Party movement ever refer to themselves as teabaggers.

Good job.   :-)

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan 

  • Login to post comments

Thank you, PrairieSky.

Submitted by ant on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 1:38am.

I always enjoy your posts and I'm glad I could be of service.

  • Login to post comments

You're very welcome and...

Submitted by PrairieSky on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 2:03am.

right back at 'cha...I've always enjoyed your posts, too....Thanks again.

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan 

  • Login to post comments

sorry to disturb you

Submitted by stonermc on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 7:30am.

but I imagine if I continue to find examples, you'll find excuses for it being incorrect.

  • Login to post comments

Congratulations

Submitted by ant on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 8:02pm.

You have nailed all the characteristics of a liberal shmuck.

First line is typical revisionists history engaged in by lib shmucks.

Second line is typically perpetual faux-outrage perpetuated by liberal shmucks. "Oh my, I have the vapors because of your words, I'll have to call in teh thugs to draw blood, I'm much too sensitive, I can't even look at abortion photos, but I defend your right to one."

Third line is a bonus, the already laughable "tone of civility" argument, about as genuine and honest as "racist" and "hate-speech" and just as transparent. Plus the implied need to call in the authorities over your limp-wristed "worry".

Here's something to think about, if that's possible for you. Go make conservative-style comments on some liberal blog and see how open and tolerant they are, that is, if your comment is miraculously shown in the first place. I've personally made sarcastic comments regarding the First Wookie's dietary "policies' to so-called unbiased newspapers and they've never been printed. Yet here you are, free to express your assinine views and not be deleted and yet complain about the tone.

You want to debate, bring it on. Nobody here is stopping you.

  • Login to post comments

Worrying?

Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 8:29pm.

Worrying?

We have democrat legislators saying "you are f'in dead" to a republican woman, yet another liberal democrat saying "go out on the street and get bloody"...and you are worried about tone?

Get a grip, get a clue, or just go whine somewhere else, Teddy.  This attempt is even more pathetic than your usual.

Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)

  • Login to post comments

Disgusting?

Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 1:10pm.

Hardly.

Hate speech?  No freakin' way.

Some rather humorous "young man" jokes, and just a few oblique pokes at her sexual orientation.  Big deal....she wears it on her sleeve, it's not off limits.  Methinks you doth protest too much, stoner.

Unlike you sorry liberals, we don't believe in political correctness.  Too bad, so sad, if you don't like what's here, go start your own blog.

Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)

  • Login to post comments

You

Submitted by stonermc on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 7:16pm.

... I think I'll just ignore.

  • Login to post comments

stoned

Submitted by MrShy on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 7:51pm.

How about you just ignore NewsBusters?

Seriously, you're going to come on here and have the gall to talk about uncivility on the part of bloggers at NB? While your rabid-dog, violent, Republican politician-threatening, conservative-assaulting, capital building-trashing leftist hippies, radicals and union thug mobs are wreaking havoc all over this fine country?

Un. Real.

- Shy Vinyl

Join Mr. Shy and The 1* Percent

 
  • Login to post comments

Ted? That you? Hmmmm.

Submitted by bkeyser on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 7:51pm.

Ted? That you?

Hmmmm.

  • Login to post comments

LOL, BK

Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 8:24pm.

The tell is so obvious, isn't it?

Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)

  • Login to post comments

Seemed so to me J- I'm

Submitted by bkeyser on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 8:31pm.

Seemed so to me J- I'm surprised no one else picked up on it. Or maybe they did and I missed it.

 

Welcome Back Kotter!

  • Login to post comments

I didn't until I saw the "You I'll ignore"

Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 8:35pm.

Dead give away.

Pathetic loser.

Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)

  • Login to post comments

Obvious is right!

Submitted by Rukus on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 8:39pm.

"You" = I obviously know and have dealt with you before.
 

"... I think I'll just ignore." = ... 'cause the scars haven't healed yet.

 

Seems about right.  ; )

_____________________________________________________________ I'm not too drunk to dance! It's just that people keep stepping on my hands!
  • Login to post comments

Yep, Ruk

Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 8:41pm.

My troll boots have sharp toes and even sharper stilleto heels.

We'll just have to wait to see if this iteration returns, or starts up yet another sock puppet account.  It's really getting too easy.

Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)

  • Login to post comments

Go for it, stoner,---

Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 7:55pm.

ignore any and all facts you don't like or disagree with. It's the liberal way. You are upset with names being called by conservatives, yet have the attendant chutzpah to point the finger while conveniently sliding right on past any of the same action by the liberal side. You are a typical biased, partisan, phony whiner.
"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
  • Login to post comments

facts

Submitted by stonermc on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 11:49pm.

I'm not sure what facts you are referring to?  I've mentioned that RM is regularly insulted on here and other sites for her looks, gender and sexual orientation.  Can you deny that?

The old argument of 'well they do it too' is just an excuse not to change.

Somebody has to start to show the way when it comes to civil discourse... who is it going to be?

  • Login to post comments

stoner

Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 12:02am.

The discourse about RM here is nothing compared to what conservative women face by liberals.  Did you miss this sign in WI?   http://michellemalkin.com/2011/02/19/photo-gallery-what-big-labor-protes...

Where are you posting your outrage at this? 

Proud member of the 53%!
  • Login to post comments

Radical1979

Submitted by stonermc on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 12:20am.

I hadn't seen the sign till now.. so I couldn't post any outrage.. also.. you proved my point by saying that this is nothing compared to.... and point to the other side.

And I have seen worse by the right in signs and comments but that doesn't excuse it.. but just don't try to pretend one side is worse than the other.

  • Login to post comments

stoner---

Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 12:27am.

You are a liberal mook. Give an example of "worse" signs by the right, or go down in flames as a lying lib troll.
"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
  • Login to post comments

stoner

Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 11:47am.

Of course you haven't seen this sign because the msm is hiding facts from the public, and you don't bother to go to alternative news sites to educate yourself.

As I said, you clean your house before you come to criticize mine.  He without sin shall cast the first stone(r).

Off you go now, get things cleaned up over on the left and educate yourself.  Go on.

Proud member of the 53%!
  • Login to post comments

NIce try

Submitted by ant on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 12:14am.

Somebody has to start to show the way when it comes to civil discourse...who is it going to be?

The words and actions of the left immediately after this so-called "call for civility", put this bogus idea to rest from day one. Look, everyone knows it was a ploy, it was basically, 'You guys shut up about everything so we can continue as we always have.' Give people some credit.

On the very same day Gabriel Giffords was shot by a lone, disturbed gunman this idea of cooling the heated rhetoric was brought up by the very same group that was calling for the death of Sarah Palin and others and blaming people that had never incited violence (look at the violence and vitriol of  the Union protests to see just the opposite of how civil protests by conservatives are carried out.) On the same DAY, for Pete's sake, they were already acting in violation of what they claim the country needed.

What they meant was silence anyone that doesn't agree with them, the left had their chance to show the way and they blew it in the same hour because it wasn't what they wanted. Do you think conservatives haven't learned by now how the left operates? How stupid do you think people are?

  • Login to post comments

one mind

Submitted by stonermc on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 12:24am.

You speak as if Liberals, Democrats have one mind and and have one agenda and we all know what it is. You're wrong there... i hate to admit it but it's true.. liberals etc argue amongst themselves about politics and Obama and the party and what's important.. there is not one voice, one thought..

and again.. the excuse is . but look what they're doing.

  • Login to post comments

I disagree. In the sense of

Submitted by ant on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 1:14am.

I disagree. In the sense of orginization,libs (dems) are of one mind, the media all run with the same stories, same memes, even the same language (gravitas, comes to mind, descriptions for the Obama regime such as "Reaganesque" or post-racial, etc.,etc.). The battles chosen and those that are ignored are choreographed and circulated. I know Democrats, I have lived with them, I know this to be true. The cause is e-mailed, twittered, and televised constantly. It becomes a battle plan and a "fight".

It is no coincidence, for example, how the Union protests(from their side, of course) have been magnified, endlessly discussed, astro-turfed, and financed. There are many things going on all over the world, some get presented day after day, hours on end, like the Wisconsin scene, while others are collectively ignored. Think about it, the media (an arm of the dem party at this point) were ready to forget about 9-11 after two weeks (remember how the footage was dubbed "too disturbing" to be shown anymore?), but Union whining, not so.

  • Login to post comments

well

Submitted by stonermc on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 7:27am.

strangely enough I see it the opposite way.

The tea party had endless coverage, mostly by Fox News of course.  Fox News cover the protests in Wisconsin but paint it with a rather awful hue.

The protests in wisconsin I believe may have more coverage because it is affecting people of all parties.

The media is no more a part of the Dem than it is of the Republican party. That's an old arguement that's never been proven. and lest you forget, 9/11 happened under a Republican president, are you sure it wasn't him controlling it?

But the way you talk about Dems as if they're a different species is sort of weird.. and the RW use email, twitter, facebook, television and town halls for their battles.

You make it sound like it is only one party that is totally wrong... where in fact there are plenty of faults to go around.

  • Login to post comments

I'm not even going to bother

Submitted by ant on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 9:37am.

I'm not even going to bother with half of your post, except to remind you that Fox News is not the be all and end all for conservative Americans. As far as seeing Dems as some different species, here are a few paraphrased quotes from Dems;

"The border has never been more secure"," They are just doing the jobs Americans won't do."

"Christians blow people up here, everyday. They walk into buildings..post offices..and blow people up everyday."

"A fetus is a parasite."

"Major Hassan was just a war-weary vet that snapped, A lone gunman with no religious affiliation."

"Obamacare penalties aren't taxes, taxes aren't penalties, they are a mode of changing behavior,like parking tickets.Who complains about parking tickets?"- Jackson-Lee.

"It takes a long time to put the necessary legislation together in order to control the people."

"As far as I'm concerned the Federal government has the power to do anything it wants." -Pete Stark.

"We want you to eat it, just eat it. We don't want to hear the whining." - Michelle the fitness queen.

Now, can't imagine for a second, why I would not identify with their thinking, I must be strange or something.

  • Login to post comments

and I

Submitted by stonermc on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 12:43pm.

am the same with the Republicans... their ideas, their thinking astounds me.. but I imagine we will never agree on these things but it shouldn't matter.

I just understand why so much hate and vitriol has arisen between people who vote for two, or three different parties.  It is your right to have your beliefs and it is your right to vote with those in mind.

You all live in one country, you have differing political opinions,, which has unfortunately led into religion and moral standards.. really, people need to calm down.

  • Login to post comments

You are more optimistic then

Submitted by ant on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 1:04pm.

You are more optimistic then me, I think. Like I've said, I know people that call themselves Democrats, they are nice people (or I'd have nothing to do with them) and since we are all just regular citizens we can "agree to disagree" and face to face we've had civil conversations. But again, we are just people, not activists or politicians and that is where the problem comes in.

I can agree or not with you and we can both go on with our lives. But I cannot and will not abide some authority that tries to manipulate my diet or lifestyle, or one that endangers the whole country by, for example, cowtowing to the demands of Islamist groups or "sacrificing" soldiers at the altar of political correctness, or stand by silently while information is coralled and re-branded to fit an agenda. That is the difference, stoner.

To put it simply, you can hold different views from mine all day long, but as soon as your views inflict control on me, we have a problem. And maybe the day Republicans want to tell me to put down the salt-shaker or judge me and legislate my choices based on the color of skin I was born with, I will reconsider my stance.

  • Login to post comments

Well now that you've let it

Submitted by Miss_Me_Yet on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 1:25pm.

Well now that you've let it slip your not an American, in America, mind letting us know about your country and form of government?

Liberals ... we can't live with them, they couldn't survive without us ...

  • Login to post comments

Good catch.MMY. The "voting

Submitted by ant on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 3:16pm.

Good catch.MMY. The "voting by religious and moral standards" insinuation should have tipped me off. Most western-socialist nationals believe America is made up of Westboro Baptist types, so I'm guessing Canada or Western Europe.

  • Login to post comments

stoner

Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 11:45am.

There's a "hue" to the coverage of protests in WI on Fox News?  As in they are showing the hateful signs and speech?  How dare they show what is happening!  How dare they not whitewash it the way msnbc does!

Don't you think the health care bill and the national deficit affect more people than those in the state of WI?

Really, if you want to debate you need better arguments.

Proud member of the 53%!
  • Login to post comments

Yes,

Submitted by stonermc on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 12:29pm.

How dare Fox show footage from a completely different protest to try and prove that the union protests are not peaceful.

They're fighting for their rights as affects then in their state... isn't that what the right wing likes.. small government, everything at a state level.. well here you go.

  • Login to post comments

I believe you are stoned.

Submitted by ant on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 12:42pm.

You think these protests have been peaceful? Go check out Gateway Pundit, they have a nice collection of the peacefulness going on there.

Small government means powerful public employee unions feeding off the tax-payer? The Tea Party was fighting against out-of-control government spending, the Unions (and whatever commie dregs of society have been drawn to these protests) are fighting for more.Gimmee some more, and throw in Viagra and sex-change funding while you're at it.

  • Login to post comments

stoner

Submitted by Radical1979 on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 6:23pm.

The footage was prefaced with the fact that it was a montage of footage of union protests from around the country.  This was discussed yesterday, let's not try to dredge up a b.s. point that already put to rest yesterday.

They're fighting for their rights as affects then in their state... isn't that what the right wing likes.. small government, everything at a state level.. well here you go.


You really need to understand the issues before you post.  What the unions are not fighting for is small government.  They are fighting to maintain power over the government who employs them and can no longer afford to fund their pensions and healthcare.  As I said before, educate yourself before you come here and try to debate.
Proud member of the 53%!
  • Login to post comments

Well, it sure as hell won't be---

Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 03/04/2011 - 12:52am.

you libs who start any "civil" discourse.
"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
  • Login to post comments

Blonde

Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 7:27pm.

You got any insecticide? Because the pests are crawling out of the woodwork with the warm temps and the snow melt...

Proud member of the 53%!
  • Login to post comments

Troll alert!

Submitted by PrairieSky on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 7:52pm.

Looks like we have a new troll with us, folks...Where's my can of Raid???

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan 

  • Login to post comments

Don't forget Ms Rad*

Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 7:51pm.

Obama has spent lots of taxpayer money for 50 fake "persona" to spew his lies on the internet. Each persona is being given 10 account names to use at conservative websites. We have nine "stoners" to go. pewwww.

  • Login to post comments

cajun

Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 8:21pm.

Well we had jake here earlier, I think he was scared away.  This guy, and mucous.  They really tend to hit all in one day don't they?

Proud member of the 53%!
  • Login to post comments

They scamper around together

Submitted by ant on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 8:30pm.

They scamper around together almost like....roaches. Hmm, I guess Rush was on to something there, somebody tell the wonderKOS kids.

  • Login to post comments

And we all know

Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 8:32pm.

what makes roaches scatter, light.

Sunlight, the best disinfectant.

Proud member of the 53%!
  • Login to post comments

Yes,

Submitted by ant on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:00pm.

And I wouldn't be surprised 4 or 5 days from now when this thread has effectively become old enough to have the "lights turned out" a troll-roach will come back and respond to everyone's comments, making it look as though he/she got the last word in.

  • Login to post comments

Ms Rad*

Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 8:57pm.

Jake promptly went to TownHall and started posting there with the same....your ignorant comments'....same lies, same statements he made here. ....

BRB: going to get Chipper..

  • Login to post comments

cajun

Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:01pm.

So he's not even an original troll?  He has to repeat everything he says?

Be careful with the mutt!!

Proud member of the 53%!
  • Login to post comments

Ms Rad*

Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:14pm.

I accidently found a website that presents "talking points" and "comments" to post on various conservative sites. This site is obviously one of deddy's favorites since he has taken several post names from the name of that site. I will not link it because it is disgusting but it does expose some of these trolls. PageOneQ...warning... to anyone who goes there.

And will have Chipper nearby until 11-2012...he loves gnawing on trolls

  • Login to post comments

Who

Submitted by stonermc on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:39pm.

Is Teddy?  I'm not Teddy, I don't know who that is... sorry to disappoint.

I must say you're not a welcoming bunch are you... is this your way to discourage people from joining who want real discussions without insults?

Charming people.

Several of you have said I should scuttle off back to various news sites from whence i must have come... of course those other sites have plenty of right wing posters too.. some polite with points to make others much like the people on newsbusters.

  • Login to post comments

stoner

Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:42pm.

You want to have a discussion?  I thought you were just trying to tell us all how to behave and what to say. 

Proud member of the 53%!
  • Login to post comments

I began

Submitted by stonermc on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:49pm.

by saying that this site cannot deny that it has said pretty terrible things about Rachel Maddow, referring to her gender, looks and her sexuality.

The response I've received indicates that a discussion, of any sort, is out, as the troll alerts and insults are thrown about straight away.

  • Login to post comments

Understood already.

Submitted by ant on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 10:03pm.

Your assertion that we are a bunch of homophobe "haters" has already been sufficently answered by some people here. Perhaps you could resist the usual troll habit of rephrasing your same point or question over and over again in infinitum.

  • Login to post comments

you began

Submitted by Agnostic on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 10:04pm.

and I agreed with you and then you went off and started on the Tea Bagger thing and that wasn't interesting.  More exposure to RM then you get when you only see the mistakes and the negative on conservative websites and many will see that she does make some good arguments with sound facts whether you agree where the facts take her or not.  Overall, she has been much better than her counterparts at MSNBC.  Like I said before her sex, looks and orientation do not matter but she is biased to the left, hard.  That does matter.  I don't read a quote from Rush and not think, "okay, this is coming from the far right", so why would I think any differently when I hear something from the far left.  It just so happens that is my belief that, fiscally, the right is more often correct and while I may agree on the left in certain social issues their inability to form a fiscally responsible way to pay for their programs and/or bills stops me cold from being supportive most of the time.

Almost every site I've been on has posters who take great delight in spotting trolls.  Don't want to be called a troll - start and continue not to act like one. 

. . Socialist = Modern Liberal = Parasitoid
  • Login to post comments

troll

Submitted by stonermc on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 12:36am.

If people wish to refer to me as 'troll' I can't do anything about it.. I assume it's their way of not dealing with what I say.. who knows.

I am not right wing and I am not going to change people's minds on here about certain issues.  However, one thing I might do is point out when something is persoanlly wrong.. like the critque of Maddow on her personal life etc.

I would have thought that if Newsbuster wanted to be taken seriously it would be something they did themselves... moderating the comments etc.  Some people do go too far.

  • Login to post comments

stoner

Submitted by sentry_99 on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 9:19am.

It seems like it should be obvious why we think you are a troll.  The orginal article is about Maddow using her sexuality to deflect criticism about her bungling of the facts regarding the situation in Wisconsin.  Rather than admit her error, she has done everything she could to avoid that and has now taken to blaming it on her sexuality.  I know you being a lib and a Maddow fan, are more than happy to turn this into a discussion about what mean things the eeeeevil right wingers say about poor Rachel while ignoring her inability to tell the truth and admit mistake.

  • Login to post comments

Well you see

Submitted by stonermc on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 12:37pm.

I know what I know about Rachel Maddow and i know that people on Newsbusters don't like her.. so I'm not going to change your mind on that.

But what I was hoping, is that people could refer to Rachel as a journalist and discuss her politics and not refer to her looks, her gender and sexuality... which happens often on here, on Mediaite and Huff Post and many RW blogs. 

This is something that is not important to the political discourse.

And yes, you and everybody else can see 'well look at your own liberal sites, see what disgusting things they say' but again then that's taking the easy way out.

Either stay in the dirt or rise above and post with dignity and show others how it's done.

  • Login to post comments

A few points stoner

Submitted by sentry_99 on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 1:31pm.

Rachel is not a journalist. Huffpo (I don't know about mediate) is not a right wing blog. I didn't say anything about her looks, gender or sexuality. You are still avoiding the point of the article. I never pointed fingers at what the lefties do and I think others are just bringing that up with you because we seriously doubt you go to left wing sites to wag your finger at them.
  • Login to post comments

stoner...Assuming you are in earnest...

Submitted by PrairieSky on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 10:27pm.

(which I admit I don't believe), have you ever taken a gander at the level of discourse at some of the sites I mentioned earlier concerning just about any Republican or conservative you would care to name?? Just the mention of Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, Glenn Beck, President Bush or the Tea Party will immediately unleash a torrent of hate and vitriol. Granted, there are comments made here at NB about certain people in the media etc., that are harsh and extreme at times, but I can assure you, as a member here for over 3 years, that when someone goes off the beam with their comments, the moderators as well as other NB'ers usually let them know in no uncertain terms that that type of garbage won't be tolerated. I have never seen nor heard of that type of reprimanding being done at those left leaning sites...Ever.

Thoughtful, intelligent and reasoned discussion, from all perspectives is welcome here...   Hateful bomb throwing, lies and misrepresentations are not. 

"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan 

  • Login to post comments

NB's charming people

Submitted by Agnostic on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:48pm.

 Some people here are charming, IMO.

However, your little quips and derogatory comments haven’t led me and, it seems, anyone else to believe you really do want dialogue.  Not to be condescending or too negative but can you make a post without an insult (implied or real) or generalities that are opinion passed off as fact.

Start a conversation of mutual respect and some will participate with respect – as long as things remain respectful.

. . Socialist = Modern Liberal = Parasitoid
  • Login to post comments

respect

Submitted by stonermc on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:51pm.

I have seen no evidence of this from NB regulars to others.

  • Login to post comments

Gee "stoner" how would you know

Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:56pm.

who here is a regular?

And you don't think coming on a website and criticizing it's posters is offensive?

How that clean up of liberal sites go?

Proud member of the 53%!
  • Login to post comments

I don't know

Submitted by stonermc on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 1:57am.

Most 'liberal' sites i visit have been taken over by right wing posters.

  • Login to post comments

Huffington Post and The #maddow Daily

Submitted by sentry_99 on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 10:19am.

A quick google search of your name shows your a big fan of both those.  Don't blame the right wing for not having any Huffpo friends Jools.

  • Login to post comments

No,

Submitted by stonermc on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 12:26pm.

I'm not a big fan of the Huuf Post... i use it to watch clips from various shows.

And gee.. thanks for checking me out.. leaves me with a creepy feeling.  Why go to the bother of checking my username?  Are you really that scared of me?

  • Login to post comments

Scared?

Submitted by sentry_99 on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 1:15pm.

First off, a Google search is hardly a "bother". In a few minutes I found several posts at different sites that tell me despite all your talk about dialogue you are simply a Maddow fan here to fight for your hero. I could just assume you are Dead Ted returned from purgatory. As far as being scared. Please. I am not afraid of your deflection and talking points.
  • Login to post comments

Ted

Submitted by bkeyser on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:50pm.

Well, I ran a word search on this page and prior to your 8:39 pm usage of the word "Teddy" -twice- it had only been used in one other comment.

I called you Ted.

The commentor who called you Teddy; you're supposedly ignoring.

Maybe "Teddy" is just a little too familiar?

Come on Ted, I'm not even good at picking you out. If Bru were here you wouldn't have made a second post without being exposed!

So how you doin' anyway? I haven't talked with you for a while. I missed the whole "Access denied" episode that sent you into DID. I gather you had a bit of a meltdown?

  • Login to post comments

I can read

Submitted by stonermc on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 9:53pm.

and also see this Ted person being implied in several comments.. It's quite easy to see.

Again, I am not Ted or Teddy.. whomever that it... sorry.

  • Login to post comments

"Wha? Who"?

Submitted by SickofLibs on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 1:44pm.

LOL

  • Login to post comments

Who is Teddy dot dot dot

Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 10:02pm.

OMO!


 

Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)

  • Login to post comments

Sorry

Submitted by stonermc on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 12:25am.

I'm sorry 'Blonde' but I'm not this Ted you're seemingly obsessed with.  Really, I'm not. Sorry.

  • Login to post comments

"Obsessed"

Submitted by Blonde on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 1:41am.

Funny you should use the exact same word old Teddy used frequently when being unmercifully beaten for stupidity, here.

Same bad grammar even.

Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)

  • Login to post comments

sorry

Submitted by stonermc on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 1:56am.

You'll have to find this teddy elsewhere. 

  • Login to post comments

Fer sure ded...

Submitted by Rukus on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 2:33am.

And where might that be?  A different thread maybe?

_____________________________________________________________ I'm not too drunk to dance! It's just that people keep stepping on my hands!
  • Login to post comments

don't know

Submitted by stonermc on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 7:17am.

sorry.

  • Login to post comments

Blonde---

Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 4:48am.

curious that stoner places quotation marks around Blonde thusly - 'Blonde' - if he doesn't "know" you from, say, past conversations on a thread.
"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
  • Login to post comments

my word

Submitted by stonermc on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 7:18am.

obsessed and paranoid it would seem.

  • Login to post comments

Um, you haven't explained how you know

Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 1:44pm.

who the regulars are, four day wonder.

4 days, and you're familiar with who the regulars are. Astounding!

Give it up Ted. Poker is not for you. All of your tells are obvious.

"I don't like repeat offenders, I like dead offenders". - Ted Nugent
  • Login to post comments

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.
Stop Censoring The Gosnell Trial!

Editors' Picks

  • Romney's revenge (Avik Roy @ NRO)
  • Relax, the Arizona voter registration ruling was narrowly drawn by Scalia (Hans von Spakovsky)
  • Snowden loses his moral authority with dangerous leaks (Rothman @ Mediaite)
  • Rapper Lil' Wayne stomps on American flag (Rare)
  • Apple releases information about data requests from NSA, other agencies (LA Times)
  • Five myths about privacy (Solove @ Washington Post)
  • Polls show Americans more libertarian on pot, gay marriage, guns (Barone)
  • Single men are opting out of society thanks to suffocating liberalism (Right Wing News)
  • What if Superman had to join a union? (Steven Crowder)
Cal Thomas's picture
Cal Thomas
Cal Thomas Column: Broadcast Nets, Ailes Is What's Good for You
Ann Coulter's picture
Ann Coulter
Coulter Column: If the GOP Falls for 'Immigration Reform' Ruse, It Deserves to Die
Walter E. Williams's picture
Walter E. Williams
Walter E. Williams Column: Let People Sell Their Organs to Sick, Needy Recipients
Michelle Malkin's picture
Michelle Malkin
Malkin Column: Anthony Weiner's Underage Girl Problem
David Limbaugh's picture
David Limbaugh
David Limbaugh Column: You'd Better Believe This Is Obama's America
More >

RSS FeedAmazon KindleFacebookTwitter

Stop Censoring The News!

Susan Rice, Back for More
more cartoons
  • Christie: Obama’s ‘Charm Offensive Should Have Started January 2009’; ‘Bit Late in Dating Game’
  • Howard Stern to Jimmy Fallon: ‘How You Got The Tonight Show I Don't Know. You Barely Beat Craig Ferguson’
  • Rand Paul: ‘I Want to Go From 5% of the African-American Vote to At Least 20-25%’
  • Chris Cuomo Claims He’s ‘Completely Divorced From Ideology’ While Talking Up ‘Advocacy Journalism’
  • CNN 'New Day' Review: Chris Cuomo 'Can Make a Lost-Kitten Story Sound Like a Mass Murder'
More >
NewsBusters

Executive Editor
Matthew Sheffield

Editor at Large
Brent Baker

Senior Editors
Tim Graham
Rich Noyes

Managing Editor
Ken Shepherd

Associate Editor
Noel Sheppard

Contributing Editors
Tom Blumer
Geoffrey Dickens
Dan Gainor
David Limbaugh
Mithridate Ombud
Clay Waters
Scott Whitlock

Senior Contributor
Mark Finkelstein

Contributing Writers
Matthew Balan
Michael M. Bates
Erin R. Brown
Jack Coleman
Kyle Drennen
Douglas Ernst
P. J. Gladnick
Stephen Gutowski
Matt Hadro
D. S. Hube
Kathleen McKinley
Dave Pierre
Amy Ridenour
Julia A. Seymour
Terry Trippany
Rusty Weiss
Brad Wilmouth

Publisher
Brent Bozell

Site Design
Dialog New Media

 

  • Home
  • Blogs
  • About
  • Forum
  • Contact
  • Donate
  • Search
  • Account
  • rss
  • CNSNews
  • MRC TV
  • Biz & Media
  • Culture & Media
  • Take Action!
  • Twitter
  • Facebook
  • Amazon Kindle
  • Advertise
  • Jobs

Copyright © 2005-2013 NewsBusters.
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use