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Paul Krugman Ironically Asks 'How Can Voters Be So Ill Informed?'

By Noel Sheppard | February 14, 2011 | 21:54

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In his lifetime, Princeton economics professor and Nobel Laureate Paul Krugman has published 20 books, over 200 papers, and since the year 2000 two columns a week at the New York Times.

Clearly without understanding the irony of his question, the man once accused by the Gray Lady's ombudsman of possessing a "disturbing habit of shaping, slicing and selectively citing numbers" asked his readers Monday, "How can voters be so ill informed [sic]?":

The key point to understand is that while many voters say that they want lower spending, press the issue a bit further and it turns out that they only want to cut spending on other people.

That’s the lesson from a new survey by the Pew Research Center, in which Americans were asked whether they favored higher or lower spending in a variety of areas. It turns out that they want more, not less, spending on most things, including education and Medicare. They’re evenly divided about spending on aid to the unemployed and — surprise — defense.

The only thing they clearly want to cut is foreign aid, which most Americans believe, wrongly, accounts for a large share of the federal budget.

Pew also asked people how they would like to see states close their budget deficits. Do they favor cuts in either education or health care, the main expenses states face? No. Do they favor tax increases? No. The only deficit-reduction measure with significant support was cuts in public-employee pensions — and even there the public was evenly divided. [...]

How can voters be so ill informed [sic]?

Readers should note the "[sic]" after informed, as the proper spelling is ill-informed, unless of course one is talking about a medical professional. But the sentences that immediately followed were the real treasures: 

In their defense, bear in mind that they have jobs, children to raise, parents to take care of. They don’t have the time or the incentive to study the federal budget, let alone state budgets (which are by and large incomprehensible). So they rely on what they hear from seemingly authoritative figures.

Might one of those "seemingly authoritative figures" be a Nobel Laureate in economics that has a "disturbing habit of shaping, slicing and selectively citing numbers" in his twice-weekly articles at the New York Times?

Consider that Krugman is quite possibly the most well-known and oft-cited liberal economist in America today. If the public is so ill-informed about how government budgets work, isn't he not only part of the problem but potentially at its very core?

Bear in mind that Monday's column entitled "Eat the Future" was another in a long line of Krugman pieces excoriating Republicans - especially Tea Partiers! - for wanting to rein in spending before the nation is swamped with debt it will never be able to pay off.

The Nobel Laureate once again was preaching for more spending on the very day President Obama increased 2010's projected budget deficit to a staggering $1.65 trillion.

Just nine years ago, our entire budget not including Social Security and Medicare was $1.65 trillion. Yet Krugman wants even more red ink.

As I noted earlier on Monday, this means that in the four years since the Democrats took over Congress in 2007, our nation ran up deficits in excess of $5 trillion. This is more than the cumulative deficits in the previous 220 years since our Constitution was written.

Does Krugman know this? Does he care? Has he ever informed his readers of the kind of spending that's happened in Washington since January 2007?

Before answering, consider some more data about how these deficits relate to the past. Prior to 2009, the largest inflation-adjusted deficit America had ever seen was in 1943. That year's $55 billion deficit would equate to $693 billion in 2010 dollars.

As Obama's 2011 budget deficit is now projected at $1.65 trillion, that's almost $1 trillion more in red ink than when our nation was still mired in the Great Depression and fighting World War II.

But Krugman doesn't think spending is high enough.

In the final year of WWII, America spent $93 billion or over twice what it collected in taxes. In today's dollars, that's $1.1 trillion.

In 2011, Obama will spend $3.3 trillion on on-budget items (not including Social Security and Medicare). But Krugman doesn't think it's enough even though it's three times as much as we spent in 1945 during World War II.

To be fair, the population is larger today than then, and the size of our government should reflect that. To compare apples to apples, let's account for this.

In 1945, America had 140 million people. Today, it's 310 million, or 121 percent more.

If we take 1945's inflation-adjusted spending of $1.1 trillion and multiply it by 2.21, we get $2.4 trillion.

This means that if our federal government - not including Social Security and Medicare - since the end of World War II had only grown at a rate that accounted for inflation and population increases, we'd be spending $900 billion less today, a 27 percent decrease.

But even that's not completely fair, for our budget had exploded almost ten-fold during WWII from $9.5 billion to $93 billion. As such, let's look at 1947 when our spending got a little more in line.

That year, we had outlays of $35 billion. In 2010 dollars, that's $342 billion. Our population has grown by 115 percent since then, which means our inflation and population adjusted spending in 1947 was $723 billion.

As such, if our post-World War II on-budget expenditures had only risen by a rate compensating for inflation and population increases, we'd be spending almost $2.6 trillion less today, or 78 percent, allowing us to have far lower tax rates to meet these obligations.

Not only that, our outstanding debt would probably be 70 to 80 percent lower than it currently is or more thereby reducing long term interest rates significantly. This would also give us far more options to resolve the coming crises in Medicare and Social Security without such solutions either busting the budget or further demolishing the middle class.

But these aren't concepts economics Nobel Laureate Krugman has been teaching at Princeton or apprising his many readers of over the years. Instead, he just wants more spending.

Something else to consider when pondering the benefit of government growing commensurate with inflation and the population as opposed to at some rate tied to the growth in the economy is that it makes government recession proof. Given the recent financial and economic collapse, this seems like a slam dunk.

During the past two expansions, state and federal governments grew their outlays as tax receipts expanded. By doing so, they ensured they would have signfiicant shortfalls once the recessions came.

Wouldn't it be better if governments didn't do that? Wouldn't it be advantageous if they became recession proof by only growing at the combined rate of population and inflation growth so that they didn't run massive deficits and have trouble functioning every time the economy turned down?

Maybe if professor and columnist Krugman educated his students and readers of these simple budget principles rather than the socialism he's been advocating for decades the public would have better-informed answers when asked their economic opinions by pollsters.

The same can be said of Krugman's colleagues throughout the media who also do a terrible job of addressing budget issues thereby adding to the public's lack of understanding of such matters.

A perfect example was when the new Republican Congress in 1995 wanted to balance the budget by slowing the growth in some programs down from 12 percent per year to 7 percent. Media members at the time claimed the GOP was cutting such programs.

Think telling people a 7 percent increase is a cut adds to how "ill informed" they are?

Of course, one has to wonder whether this is negligence on the press's part or if many of them are so caught up in their advocacy they actually don't have a clue how wrong they are.

If ignorance is bliss, when it comes to budgets, most press rooms must be heaven.

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Were voters 'ill-informed' in November 2008?

Submitted by ChrisNH on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 10:02pm.

Krugman is unhinged and enraged. Things aren't evolving well at all for this haughty Liberal elite media hack. His 'tone' in every column is angry; one prays for the safety of his family and pets. Here, his line of reasoning clearly traps him: If voters are 'ill-informed' now, it's reasonable to assume that they were in November 2008, too. After all, it was Obama's breast-feeding media-hack friends who sold him to us, 'ill-informing' us all the while.

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Hear hear! Ill informed

Submitted by Slyrr on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 10:27pm.

Hear hear!

Ill informed votes are what got us stuck with Obama in the first place.

If a Liberal/Democrat politician/media figure wants to put their arms around you, or pat you on the back, all they're doing is looking for a good place to stick a knife.
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The ill informed voters that

Submitted by kg on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 11:48pm.

The ill informed voters that Krugman is talking about are his readers.

 

"DumbAssity of Dope"

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I was thinking he looked like

Submitted by msh1973 on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 10:41pm.

I was thinking he looked like a wild-eyed nut...oh brother, and they think we are crazy.

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Shows you the value of a non-scientific Nobel prize.

Submitted by drsamherman on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 10:05pm.

Just like the unearned Peace Prize recipient in the White House, Krugman's Nobel credentials are worthless. 

For the record, Kruggie, those of us who live west of the Hudson do not give a hoot what you think.  Your opinion of us is insignificant.   Your chosen audience is not buying what you are selling.  Perhaps your perfect academic economics credentials forgot the fundamental rules of the market - you have to sell something people want.  With the NYT's sagging circulation, the best you can hope for is irrelevance.

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Liberal bias

Submitted by Emil on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 10:23pm.

This is a demonstration of the liberal bias that only liberal thinking is valid. If you don't have a college education you can't possibly form intelligent opinions about anything. I have a hotflash for you, the people own the government and are fed up with its actions. They blame the government for the situation the country is in now. Consequently, they want to change the government, witness the last election. The current administrations policies have put this country on a path to financial disaster. Now the government is going to have to pay the piper. We must cut spending and cut deeply. The debt will devour us. There is no interpretation of this economy that doesn't show a disaster looming for the American people if we don't change our ways.

“We sleep soundly in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.” -Winston Churchill
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'Ill informed' votes are what landed us with OBAMA

Submitted by Slyrr on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 10:25pm.

Kruggy-boy:

Given that Obama won the election in 2008, I would call your question legitimate.  Voters in 2008 must have been ill-informed, lied to by the media, or out of their minds.  Or perhaps a combination of all three.

A well informed public, paired with an  honest media, would NEVER have given Obama a single vote.  They'd have sent him packing to the ash heap of history where he belongs.

If a Liberal/Democrat politician/media figure wants to put their arms around you, or pat you on the back, all they're doing is looking for a good place to stick a knife.
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The answer is,

Submitted by LAM SON 719 on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 10:25pm.

CBS,NBC,ABC,MSNBC,NPR,PBS, Time, Newsweek.

Non, je ne regrette rien. "You aren't angry because I might be a racist, you're angry because you know I'm right".
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@ Lamson719.. and Krugman

Submitted by Gary Hall on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 2:09pm.

From the looks of the poll, it appears that many of the voters are reading Krugman as well - "how could they be so ill-informed?"

(;~/ gary

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Pauly

Submitted by PrimalElements on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 10:37pm.

Seriuosly, take alook at this guy.  How many times do you think

he got his a$$ kicked in the playground as a kid?  Now he just makes

things up to get attention.

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Pauly

Submitted by PrimalElements on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 10:44pm.

He doesn't even look smart.

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Hey Paul

Submitted by donabernathy on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 10:39pm.

uninformed Voters..... Do ya really need to ask how Barry got elected

 

roflmao

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This article hits the nail on

Submitted by ant on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 11:18pm.

This article hits the nail on the head. If a teacher calls his class ill-informed, he must take a look in the mirror. In the media's case, misinformation is the desired outcome.

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I actually have the same

Submitted by mostlymoderate on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 11:33pm.

I actually have the same question that Krugman has.  After all, how could our country be stupid enough to vote for the unexperienced and mysterious Barack Hussein Obama. How could California vote in "The Terminator" (twice!).  How can you explain Harry "Dingy" Reed of Nevada getting re-elected?  How about Al "Stuart Smally" Franken?

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How could Cali vote in

Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 9:19am.

How could Cali vote in Moonbean Brown agin?

Nuke em til they glow; then shoot em in the dark
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Fundamental Ideological Differences

Submitted by BrianBarkley on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 11:58pm.

If you firmly believe that most people need to be told what to do, and you are egotisitical enough to believe that you are the one to do it, then anyone that wants to think for themselves must, "just not get it".  This is a "people aren't doing what I tell them" temper tantrum.  Pity the man that will never accept that life will not obey your commands.  

Angry people do and say stupid things.
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Krugman, The Grand Master Of Misinformation

Submitted by Boil It Down on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 9:56am.

Wow, how is it possible to be so unaware of oneself? A few years back I went on a quest to find the economists in the media who were right and complete in their reporting most of the time. I'd come to a point where I was reading vastly different and contradicting information and much of it misleading. So, I thought it was about time to quantify them and find out who I could trust. With regard to their influence, can you guess who came out on the bottom of the list? Now he bemoans the fact that the public he has betrayed all these many years is "Ill informed". The real problem for him is that the public seems to be better informed than Krugman himself. What fantastic hubris!

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Deliciously well done, Mr.

Submitted by stratman on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 1:09am.

Deliciously well done, Mr. Sheppard!

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encouraged!

Submitted by vcb-tn on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 1:11am.

th pew research poll is actually...encouraging.., in that young americans are understanding that mountainous rampantly, negligently increasing u.s. national debt does not bode well for our nation's and our personal freedom's.. to live, free strong and prosper, as individuals.

and what all is this proposed increase to the u.s. debt for, increased funding for pubic schools? (exercise modicum of research on the subject), u.s. public schools are a dismal failure and if we spent $20,000 per annum/per student immediattely, there would not be sig. improvement. I am an architect, even now, when we design shool bldgs. , they are "still"  mostly a collection of "4-walled rooms: with an instruction surface/direction, nothing is going to change that unless you think giving all these people a new apple laptop, i-pad, and i-phone, All i see now is an ability to text blather faster, not smarter students, no general increase in apptitude, intelligence. (there are indeed a "few" exceptions). My point is, that most likely a plurality of hardware technolgy, national expense will be wasted via inabilty to captialize on, i.e  hardware broken, stolen, missued, etc. (trying not to be un-p.c.!) 

Kids, (young adults, xy'ers?) you can do it!, inform yourselves, assume self-responsibility! the future is in "your hands"!

 

 

 

   but  bbutbutKidz, you can do it!

vcb-tn
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they are "still"  mostly a

Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 9:18am.

they are "still"  mostly a collection of "4-walled rooms: with an instruction surface/direction, nothing is going to change that

I was part of an experiment in open classrooms.  It was a failure because of the distractions by the other classes going on.  So different ideas have been tried and flopped.  Different ideas are still being tried.

Nuke em til they glow; then shoot em in the dark
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Noel, if you ignored Kruggers the Troll

Submitted by ConservaSerb on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 1:41am.

He'd shrivel up and die.  And his 8 readers probably wouldn't even notice.



A wise & frugal government, which shall leave men free 2 regulate their own pursuits of industry & improvement, & shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government. T. Jefferson
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Well Mr. Krugman, you know

Submitted by dscott on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 4:19am.

Well Mr. Krugman, you know the answer is if the public doesn't accept the words coming from the messenger concerning the message, then obviously the messenger is not delivering the words in the proper manner.  Wasn't that the judgement of Obama when the voters tossed so many Democrats over the passage of ObamaCare?  He didn't take enough time to explain it.  It's your fault Krugman because as you know the message (liberal agenda) can never be wrong, it's the messenger who has failed to deliver it properly.

In liberal parlance, it's time to get another messenger.  Mr. Krugman, YOU'RE FIRED!

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Those who can, do.

Submitted by motherbelt on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 8:20am.

And those who can't...apparently get Nobel prizes.

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Good One Motherbelt

Submitted by Boil It Down on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 8:38am.

That one definitely goes in my comments archive. Thanks.

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Voters are 'ill informed'

Submitted by Willis_Leon_Johnson on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 9:28am.

Voters are 'ill informed' because they read this guys crap and mistakenly assume that he has a brain.

End 'gun violence in America' - Require training and MANDATORY "Shall Carry" by every Citizen.

If harry reid is the best person to lead the senate, what does that say about the other 99 senators?

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I wonder if this has anything

Submitted by Semus on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 10:34am.

I wonder if this is connected in anyway with with what Dreyfus was saying at CPAC. I'm pretty sure he wasn't being entirely honest. He had some eating out of his hand with his carefully phrased statements. I'm afraid His idea of educating people to be civic minded actually is civic training, training to have a particular opinion one that would match his.

The lefts very funny, first the masses are dumbed down so they're easy to manipulate but even after generations of this dumbing down, not enough people are jumping on the Hope and Change band wagon, so it's determined we're not smart enough to know whats good for us sounds like a conundrum to me.

I think the kind of education they're talking about for some of us is the kind offered in the reeducation camps of Cambodia, Vietnam, the Gulags in Russia, and China and if all else fails there's always the firing squad, or Hang mans noose

The left is a cold, dark, heartless, and dangerously determined place.


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Look in the mirror Paul, your

Submitted by Miss_Me_Yet on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 10:26am.

Look in the mirror Paul, your answer will be staring you in the face.

Liberals ... we can't live with them, they couldn't survive without us ...

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Why are your readers so

Submitted by Beukeboom on Tue, 02/15/2011 - 10:58am.

Why are your readers so ill-informed, Krugman? The answer stares you straight in your face whenever you look into a mirror.

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oye

Submitted by hayate1 on Wed, 02/16/2011 - 2:41am.

Budget and deficits are not put in proper perspective when discounted for population and inflation. the basis is flawed.  it is much more meaningful to look at them in terms of percentage of gdp, as they are in any meaningful analysis. the debt is recorded in nominal dollars bc that is what we owe.  that is to say that our economy grew at rates that do not necessarily correlate to population growth.

if indeed paul krugman offers selective slices opf data to make his case and that somehow negates everything he says then what about you?  you have offered selective slices of his arguments to support your point.  krugman is an intellectual giant and his arguments are well reasoned, based on solid data points and derived from analysis of past economic cause and effect factors. 

 

surely you dont think that calling him a liberal is argument against his conclusions?  or that you can offer credible counter argument by creating you own economic metrics?  Doesnt mean krugman is all knowing, but if you start from the data, look to it's validity, then go to the man and finally to the political bent you will become better informed.  To begin your understanding of what is going on economically you cannot handicap yourself by beginning your analysis with ideology. 

"Facts are not decided by how many people believe them. Truth is not determined by how loudly it is shouted."

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What part of $14 trillion

Submitted by dscott on Fri, 02/18/2011 - 6:29pm.

What part of $14 trillion national debt do you not understand?   By what metric is amassing a debt so large that in current receipts and expenses could never be paid down? 

When Bernie Madoff paid dividends to investors with new investor's money, how is his scheme a Ponzi Scheme when compared to what Obama and his followers did, not?  The only difference between Bernie Madoff versus Barack Obama, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid is that the latter draws a paycheck from the government.  Barack Obama just submitted a budget that qualifies as a Ponzi scheme BECAUSE he refused to acknowledge interest on the debt without receipts to cover them qualifies as deficit spending.  It's that kind of creative accounting that lands you in prison if working for a company.  So what metric are you using to whitewash the fiscal mismanagement of the Democrat Party and liberals in particular?

It's like you liberals have absolutely no intention of ever paying back the money you borrowed.  In the real world we call this FRAUD.  What metric are you using?

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yes, 14 trillion is a lot

Submitted by hayate1 on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 9:36pm.

and i agree with your anger at those who have created that debt.  what is somewhat misplaced is that your anger is directed at only liberals when most of the debt was created by conservatives.  more to the point, created by conservative policies.  Obama, much to my chagrin, has maintained those policies and even doubled down by cutting taxes many more times.  sure, he has added nearly $4 trillion in 2.5 years, but he inherited a $10 trillion debt which was created by 3 people, mostly.  Reagan, Bush and Bush. 

"Facts are not decided by how many people believe them. Truth is not determined by how loudly it is shouted."

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hayate1

Submitted by Radical1979 on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 9:42pm.

You are a riot!  Claiming all those entitlement programs are conservative programs is wild.  I wasn't aware conservatism promoted wealth redistribution.

Proud member of the 53%!
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most of the debt was created

Submitted by Jack Bauer on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 10:00pm.

most of the debt was created by conservatives. 

Liar. The is no cure for your malignance, but there is for your ignorance...

You don't even know the difference between the national debt and deficit. PATHETIC.

IN FACT.,iN JUST 19 MONTHS Maximum Leader of the Regime Obama has

INCREASED the federal debt held by the public by more than the cumulative total that was amassed by all U.S. presidents from George Washington through Ronald Reagan.

When President Barack Obama took the oath of office on Jan. 20, 2009, the total federal debt held by the public stood at 6.3073 trillion, according to the Bureau of the Public Debt, a division of the U.S. Treasury Department.

As of Aug. 20, 2010, after the first nineteen months of President Obama’s 48-month term, the total federal debt held by the public had grown to a total of $8.8333 trillion, an increase of $2.5260 trillion.
 

You may also care to learn the differnce between Conservatives and George Bush. Both of them.


All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
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National dept

Submitted by Boudin on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 10:13pm.

Is up over 14 trillion now. With a proposed budget deficit of almost 2 trillion. But who cares, Obama is da man. Oh, and lets not forget the 98 trillion in unfunded mandates, ya know, pensions and SS, and such.

Seek Truth, Defend Liberty
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hayate1, if you are implying

Submitted by dscott on Tue, 02/22/2011 - 2:22am.

hayate1, if you are implying that the tax cuts added to the national debt,  you are dead wrong.  In what universe is bringing in an extra trillion dollars a year after the tax cut adding to the national debt?  Tax cuts are a very simple thing to understand, next time you go to Walmart ask yourself how they make money.  By keeping the price cheap you induce people to buy MORE and thus you make your money on VOLUME and not price GOUGE the customer.  The primary complaint of liberals with the tax cut has ALWAYS been that they were SO GREEDY THEY WANTED MORE.  The issue has always been spending and liberals have always demanded we the taxpayer fund their bad ideas. 

While Reagan was in office, the Democrats under Tip O'Neill ran the Congress.  Only Congress gets to write the bills for spending money NOT the President.  Under the leadership of Ronald Reagan Tip O'Neill was backed into a corner and held committee hearings featuring crying women and children claiming they would starve IF they REDUCED the rate of growth, not cut the budget.   Apparently, either your memory is conveniently short or you weren't around to listen to these hucksters like I did.  Democrats ran up the deficit under Reagan because in their view at the time if the national defense could be beefed up, then domestic spending could also be beefed up, it was the compromise Tip O'Neil and Ronald Reagan made.  Considering we defeated the Soviet Union, the results were well worth the cost and it didn't cost near what Obama is spending to get zero results.

HW Bush had a Democrat Controlled Congress.   So who wrote the spending bills? The GOP didn't take control of Congress until AFTER Clinton took office.  Again you conveniently forgot or weren't around.  It is interesting you left out Clinton since it was a GOP controlled Congress that forced Bill Clinton and the remaining Democrats in Congress to bring the federal budget into some semblance of balance over their tearful shreking objections.  The FY2000 budget surplus would never have been possible were it not for the spending restraint of a GOP CONTROLLED CONGRESS, something for which Bill Clinton wrongfully  took credit because he objected to their cuts.  I suppose you also conveniently forgot that Congress and Clinton had a show down over the budget which shut down the government.  Bill Clinton's position was for MORE spending NOT less, that's why he shut down the government.

I also find it interesting that you liberals refused to reform Social Security when W took leadership sounded the alarm that the trajectory of receipts to expenses was going to be a problem in the coming years.  The liberal response:  What problem, there is no problem, you're mean spirited and cheap for wanting to cut grandma's paycheck.  So what's happened now?  Social Security is in major trouble.  W responded to the rising price of oil and gasoline with recinding the drilling ban, prices went down for a bit.  The liberal response:  What problem, there is no problem, you're mean spirited and cheap for wanting to  give the oil companies more profits.  The results, the price of gas zoomed up and then tanked the economy putting millions of people out of work.   W sounded the alarm over Freddie and Fannie regarding the easy mortgages and the forseeable mortgage debacle.  The liberal response:  What problem, there is no problem, you're mean spirited and cheap for wanting to block blacks and the poor from home ownership.  So what happened?  The mortgage meltdown, millions of people lost their homes.

As usual you liberals play politics with the nation's money and then blameshift when your spending priorities run the country into the ditch.  You liberals did this, grow up, act like adults and take responsibility for your screw ups.  YOU ARE INCOMPETENT!  The voters of this country have taken the Congressional liberal's drivers license for reckless driving, now the GOP is in charge, get over it, and in Obama's own words, "WE WON". 

Come 2012 if Obama doesn't stop his reckless driving the voters will take his license as well.  Personally IMO, it's too late for Obama, he damaged his brand so badly not even starting a war will save him.

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Verbal diarrhea. Supercilious

Submitted by Jack Bauer on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 10:12pm.

Verbal diarrhea signifying nothing.

Supercilious little know-nothing snot, too.

Try learning the difference between the debt and the deficit first.


All of the above Mr Obama? --- How about ALL OF THE BELOW, instead.
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Paul Krugman is an intellectual giant?---

Submitted by matthewdean on Wed, 02/16/2011 - 11:15pm.

hayate1, you are a stunningly perfect example of what the progeny of John Maynard Keynes and Joy Behar would produce relative economic stability of thought.

And you are actually telling someone that their perception is handicapped because they begin their analysis with ideology?

Aside from the fact that you are absolutely certifiable, no one is credible who starts sentences by failing to use capital letters.

Just a quirk, you say?

Oh yeah, quirky would be the word, all right.

MD

 

"The credibility of the story is undermined by the selection of sources." - (h/t Jer)
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Submitted by cajun2 on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 9:48pm.

Just who is accumulating the debt? I have posted this link a number of times. Can you count? The dems have had a majority in congress for most of the last 60 yrs.

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