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Lawrence O'Donnell: Democrats Made Huge Mistake Not Putting Severability In ObamaCare

By Noel Sheppard | February 02, 2011 | 11:28

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In the wake of Monday's ruling by a Florida judge to toss out ObamaCare as a result of the individual mandate, MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell asked liberal constitutional lawyer Jonathan Turley Tuesday if the Democrats made a mistake not writing a severability clause into the law.

Turley surprisingly answered, "It was a colossal mistake" (video follows with transcript and commentary):

LAWRENCE O’DONNELL, HOST: Joining me now is Jonathan Turley, professor of constitutional law at George Washington University.
Jonathan, thanks for joining us tonight.

JONATHAN TURLEY, GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY: Hi, Lawrence.

O’DONNELL: Jonathan, the Democrats made a mistake of not writing into the law that the bill is what they call "severable," meaning if courts find bits of it unconstitutional, they can simply sever those bits from the rest of the law. Democrats insist that severability is implicit in this kind of law. Who’s right?

TURLEY: Well, first of all, it was a colossal mistake not to have a severability clause in this legislation. It’s a standard clause in bills. It is not clear why it was kept out. Some people say it was a blunder. Other suggests and I know you know, there’s some suspicion that it might be a sort of game of chicken, that they wanted to make clear, if you take out the individual mandate, you are risking the entire bill to sort of give these judges a bit of sticker shock.

But either way, it was a mistake. It opened the door to allow a judge like Judge Vinson to strike the entire act. Now, it is certainly true that you do not need a severability clause for a judge to sever provision. And, in fact, that’s exactly what Judge Hudson did in the Virginia. He was encouraged to strike down the entire law of Virginia and he chose not to. I agree with that decision. I think he did the right thing there.

But, the Democrats really laid themselves open in how they drafted this act. Judge Vinson is not, you know, totally out of line in saying that severability was put at issue when they did not include the clause. The interesting thing is the severability clause was in an earlier draft of the legislation and was removed.

Something that Judge Vinson notes in his opinion.

O’DONNELL: I can tell you, Jonathan, that’s exactly the kind of mistake that occurs at the staff level when they are in these panic writings, last-minute writings of the legislative language of these bills - - things that they intend to be in there like a severability clause can easily slip out in the word processing.

Fascinating to see two liberals point fingers at Democrats, don't you agree?

Despite them both being correct, they omitted - conveniently or ignorantly - that this is the inherent problem of creating a several thousand page bill that no one reads.

O'Donnell blamed it on the word processing, but how about pointing fingers at all the Democrats in both chambers of Congress as well as in the adminstration that missed this oversight likely because no one read the darned thing? Was it so lengthy and comprehensive that it was impossible for anyone to know what was really there?

Makes you giggle now when you think about House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) arrogantly claiming people would love the bill once they learned what was in it. You think she had any idea that there was no severability clause and that this could end up spelling the doom of the entire law?

Think she's lovin' it now? I sincerely doubt the Speaker is humming the McDonald's theme song at the moment.

This all becomes more important depending on the timetable of when the Supreme Court will hear this case. Hot Air's Ed Morrissey noted Tuesday that SCOTUS could end up deciding the 2012 elections:

A Supreme Court ruling that supports the mandate still leaves President Obama and his Democratic allies with an unpopular bill under political siege in the Republican-controlled House, no worse or better off than before a final court ruling. Such a ruling might even provide more motivation to the opposition to gain control of the Senate and White House to reverse the PPACA entirely through legislative action.

An adverse ruling by the Supreme Court before the 2012 election would be an unequivocal disaster, however. President Obama and his fellow Democrats spent almost half of the 111th congressional session fiddling on health care while the economy burned, which destroyed their credibility in the midterm elections last fall. They insisted that their work would pass constitutional muster even as the mandate fueled the rise of the Tea Party and came to embody all of the arrogance and elitism of big government, nanny state. A ruling that overturns even just the mandate means that they tossed away their House majority and all of their political momentum for nothing.

What’s more, it will increase the prestige and the credibility of those who fought the passage of the PPACA and who later vowed to repeal it entirely and start reform over from scratch. And that could come just as President Obama runs for re-election and Democrats desperately try to preserve their Senate majority as they defend 13 more seats than Republicans. Not only would their work be discredited, so would their entire approach to governance.

The question of severability in the legal sense will play an important part of the appeals process, up to the Supreme Court sooner or later. The bigger question will be whether President Obama and his party will have any political severability from Obamacare if the Supreme Court overturns it on an expedited review. Voters will give the final judgment on that point, but given Democrats' lack of accomplishment over the past few years, don't bet on it.

This makes the severability omission larger than O'Donnell and Turley cared to admit. As Morrissey noted Wednesday, the Democrats are now in a real bind no matter what happens with SCOTUS:

[O]ne has to presume under the circumstances that the chance to head off a long, contradictory trek through different appellate circuits will appeal to at least the conservative end of the bench, especially since there is zero chance of avoiding the case in the long run anyway. On the other hand, after Bush v Gore, the court may not be terribly anxious to get to that end game and be seen as conducting a political intervention.

If they decide to tackle the inevitable sooner rather than later, the White House and its Democratic allies will face two outcomes: either a fired-up electorate like in 2010, or massive egg on their faces and … a fired-up electorate. There will be no severability from ObamaCare either way.

I don't agree on the Bush v. Gore point, as Obama injected himself into the Court's politics when he foolishly decided to admonish them during his 2010 State of the Union address. As a result, Justice Samuel Alito joined Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas in not attending this year's SOTU.

As all you need are four Justices to hear the case, it seems almost a metaphysical certitude one of the remaining six will join Alito, Scalia and Thomas especially as this is going to be a political issue whenever the Court chooses to hear it.

And, no matter what their decision, the 2012 elections look certainly to be a referendum on ObamaCare, for if SCOTUS rules for it, the Center and Right will mobilize like never before to get Democrats out of the White House and the Congress in order to legislatively stop this catastrophe before it's fully implemented in 2014.

If SCOTUS finds the bill un-Constitutional as I expect, the Center and the Right will similarly mobilize against Democrats to toss the bums out that wasted so much of the nation's time during a recession on an issue that wasn't anywhere near as important to the citizenry as the economy and jobs.

This deliciously means that Pelosi was kind of right with her love it claim, for conservatives are all humming the McDonald's theme song now having found out what's not in the bill.

Colossal mistake indeed.

Ba da ba ba ba!

*****Update: Morrissey isn't buying the notion this was an oversight. More of a game of chicken.

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Kill the Bill

Submitted by iveseenitall on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 11:35am.

OOPS---did I say "kill" ---so sorry.

NEVER,NEVER trust a "liberal" (progressive)

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Severability was removed to

Submitted by Edhenry on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 11:49am.

Severability was removed to prevent adverse selection of poor risks (only the sick,  or those with preexisitng conditions seeking coverage). It was the only way to make the numbers and risk asseessment work, and thus support of the health care industry.

But the spicoli answers ("I dont know, Mr Hand") we get from the "experts" (including senators from NY - 3 branches of gubment, the atty gen testifying in front of the judiciary committee, or the BS Media) confirms that watching them is a waste of time

edhenry
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Uhm, sounds more like an

Submitted by dscott on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 12:28pm.

Uhm, sounds more like an excuse to obfuscate the fact that Democrats DID NOT write the bill in the first place, the Tides Foundation did.  This is what happens when a SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP does legislation.

Remember, Democrats didn't read the whole bill in the first place either as Nancy Pelosi admitted when she said, they had to pass the bill to find out what was in it.  This was also the de facto admission by many Democrats when confronted about reading the size of a huge 2000+ page bill.  How could they possibly know the severability clause wasn't in the bill if they didn't read it?  That's a big whoops on many levels!

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
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The Democrats DIDN'T

Submitted by Red Jeep on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 1:18pm.

I still want to know whose desk drawer this "health care plan" came out of so they can be removed from office/prosecuted, whatever.

This bill appeared. It was not labored over to create by our electeds.

If we know where it came from we will know the true intentions of its author(s)

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My experience...

Submitted by dmntd1 on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 3:16pm.

Based on my experience, albeit at the State (Illinois) level, most bills are not written by the legislatures. They're written by lobbyists and special interest groups. Some of them are initially drafted by citizens, and presented to their representative, and edited by their staff. Most of the Senators and Representatives are not among the people. They have no idea what we're going through, what problems we face, and what solutions there are for our problems. I don't fault them, necessarily, for that, as there's not enough representatives to represent every single issue out there.

I do, however, fault them for not reading the entire bill, and being able to answer pointed, specific questions in regards to what the bill is, and why it's needed.

We dare not tempt them with weakness. For only when our arms are sufficient beyond doubt can we be certain beyond doubt that they will never be employed.

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Why no severability

Submitted by kiwikit on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 1:10pm.

But. . . had they put it in, the bill would not have passed CBO with the 'no added cost' summation; thereby it would have never passed.  Let me count the ways. . . that this is BAD!  I'd like to

acknowledge Rush's program yesterday as the source for this.  

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Had to show lower costs

Submitted by Big Wally on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 1:43pm.

You picked the right reason. Rush nailed it.

Folks we are in trouble "Mark Levin"
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You and Rush nailed it on the

Submitted by Hunter12 on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 1:50pm.

You and Rush nailed it on the head.  The individual mandate is the major funding source for this legislation, $4,000 per year times 130 million people, or about $500 million dollars per year.  I picked the $4000 ou of thin air by looking at the penalty costs of Commonwealth Care being ~$1200 per year as 1/2 of the cost of the lowest teir plan offerred, makingh that plan cost $2400 per year and figuring a gold plan would be about double.  Without a huge influx of money from somewhere, this legislation could make no pretense of being budget nuetral.  They had to exclude the doc fix and double count two other projected cost reductions to get the numbers they posted last year anyway.

 

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last."  - Sir Winston Churchill

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Larry's Monday Morning QB show

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 11:45am.

Larry isn't willing to admit he understood perfectly the reason a severability clause wasn't included.

Most of y'all have heard the parable of the turkey dinner.  You drop a piece of turkey on the kitchen floor, and you just feed it to the cat.  But if you drop the whole turkey, you scoop it up, brush it off, and parade on out to the dining room with it.

The Barryatric Bill to Destroy Private Health Care IS the whole turkey.

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Thanksgiving at the Arrows'

Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 1:57pm.

I'll just have the taters, thanks.

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Not A Mistake

Submitted by p-squared on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 11:46am.

Without the individual mandate, the costs of this program would have been even higher in CBO estimates.

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Guess ya

Submitted by donabernathy on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 11:45am.

gotta read it ..to know what's in it.

roflmao

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They still ain't read it

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 11:49am.

And Nancy Palocha is still all pie-faced stupid about it.

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Now, now, CA.

Submitted by Newsbubba on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 12:06pm.

You're being much too hard on Nancy.  After all, she is 'special" and has to pass bills before she can figure out what is in them. (I always thought that was like looking down the barrel of a gun and pulling the trigger to find out what was in it.  Sorry for the violent digression)

Anyway, Larry let the cat out of the bag when he said, "things that they intend to be in there like a severability clause can easily slip out in the word processing."

It was THE WORD PROCESSOR!!!   That's what did it.

We need a congressional hearing to see if all the word processing equipment is being "organized" by TOTUS to take over the government.  This is a serious charge.  That's all we need.  R2D2 for president.

Comrade Bubba
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Not a chance, Bubba

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 12:10pm.

Of course, I know we're both being facetious here, but it's important that any novice conservatives understand the exclusion of severability was a big fat "You wouldn't dare" aimed at SCOTUS.

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You're right, CA

Submitted by Newsbubba on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 2:02pm.

I'm just praying that SCOTUS has some cojones and takes this case and crams it up POTUS's POTTUS.

Won't it be juicy if Oblunder's latest appointment has to recuse herself because she defended this crap while in the administration.  If she doesn't, that could cause a small explosion.

I keep hoping that conservatives will get their heads out of their ashes and recognize what they are dealing with.  It ain't delusion, or ignorance, or inexperience.  The SOB knows exactly what he is doing.

Comrade Bubba
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The death knell for Obamacare.

Submitted by KyWriter on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 11:53am.

When even a liberal fire-breather like O'Donnell admits the flaw in Obamacare, it's pretty obvious that the only thing the White House can do (and is doing) is to attack the judge who renderered it unconstitutional. Nearly all the rest of the libpundits on any channel are following the standard meme, but O'Donnell may be looking at life after Comcast and positioning himself as more of a rational host. That's in contrast to Madcow continuing to blame everyone else for her misinformation. It's hard to believe that only "Crazy Larry" gets it; it shows how unhinged the liberal media truly is.

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Thank g_d for overreaching Democrats

Submitted by JLin on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 12:04pm.

This "law" has been in the can and on the shelf for many decades, maybe even largely written by Leftists long dead. To compound the confusion, they probably added to and tinkered with it for years. When they took Congress and the White House they were so drunk with power and the prospect of total victory that they paid no attention to what they were doing, thus the amateurish blunder. No wonder Nancy had to pass it so she could find out what was in it. LOL. I bet she wishes now that she had read it.

I can't help but liken this Great Dem Debacle to Pickett's Charge at Gettysburg.... the high water mark of the Confederacy. Delicious irony.

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O'Donnell

Submitted by Morganfrost on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 12:11pm.

Kinda reminds me of Niles on "Frasier," except that Niles' nuttiness was a bit more endearing.


I sometimes wonder what percentage of this vicious fruitcake's audience (and that of his colleagues on MSNBC) is composed of conservatives who enjoy blogging about him.  Maybe it's time simply to ignore these clowns?

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what I would like to know

Submitted by Hoosier Conservative on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 12:15pm.

how come the media never saw this coming or even considered it as a possibility. where was this Jonathan Turley last March warning Democrats it was a badly written bill? where was Lawrence O'Donnell a year ago asking why Congress was voting on a messy bill written by interns that no one even read??? 

Oh wait, I know where Lawrence O'Donnell was a year ago. He was bragging to Donnie Deutsch how he was such an inside player among Congress that he was "so close and had so much information." 

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2010/03/15/odonnell-disses-deutsch-your-ignorance-obamacare-bliss

Thanks for being so stupid you never thought to mention that there was no severability clause. Your genius is really showing there. MSNBC is lucky to have you around.

Marxists can't be good scientists? -troglodyte
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I think the MSM and the

Submitted by Hunter12 on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 2:01pm.

I think the MSM and the Democrats started to believe their own genned up polls and press releases and thought the American people were in love with the progressive agenda and they would remain in power with endless do-overs to fix any detected problems.  We booted their butts out and after 2012, we should have the Senate and the presidency turned around as well, to correct any remaining problems.  That is unless the GOP can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory with that stupid tendency to actually care about what a dying MSM prints or reports about them and try to cater to a "public" that doesn't really exist.   Here's a tip to the GOP: Katie and Matt are never going to love you.  Deal with it.

 

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last."  - Sir Winston Churchill

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Government wrecked the healthcare and housing markets

Submitted by JLin on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 12:18pm.

The reason we have a health care crisis in this country is precisely because the government politicians sat their fat a**es right in the middle of the process. Insurance companies were merely the kudzu after-effects of government jerrymandering of the markets. Yet the government tries to make like businesses and insurers are the bogeymen in the whole affair.  They used the same strategy to manipulate housing and create the subprime crisis. As Reagan said "Government is the problem, not the solution."

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Yep

Submitted by amyshulk on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 10:03pm.

Mandating every outlier {sex-changes, etc.} is what increased costs - the 3 major things that are out of line with wages: Health Care, Education, and Housing - are ALL infected by the "spreading the wealth/pain" crowd

The government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Ronald Reagan
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Sheesh, Larry...ya think?

Submitted by johnsonl on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 12:22pm.

Sheesh, Larry...ya think? Maybe you should read the whole 2400 pages...I'm sure it's in there, somewhere.

Putting that bill together was a lot like letting congress make a pot of chili. Everybody had something to contribute!

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"pass the bill to find out whats in"...

Submitted by MCLANTIERE on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 12:31pm.

It seems Pelosi was (for once) right on the money. Since no one actually took the time to read it, they had to pass the bill to find out what was NOT in it --  SEVERABILITY!!

 

HAHAHAHAH!!! That is SO Democrat!!  That is SO LIBERAL!!

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→ Find out what's NOT in it?

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 12:34pm.

We have to pass it so you can find out what's NOT in it.

Fixed it for ya, Nancy.

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Don't take the bait.

Submitted by Ashrak on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 1:03pm.

No, they did not make a mistake, they did this all on purpose. First, the individual mandate was the key to making the "it saves money" line even possible without utter laughter and second, the intent by Obama was to see it axed so that he could run another campaign on "healthcare reform" as yet still a victim. He can say "he tried", but those evil Republicans and judges kixed his glorious attempts.

But aside from all that, they want this tanked in the first place. They want to see it fast tracked to the SCOTUS in order to head off the tenth amendment challenge regarding the Firearms Freedom act. Obamacare is about protecting commerce clause case law so that control over literally everything is not lost as a resul of Americans regaining economic freedom.

While Obama derides judicial activism, his intent is to protect that very thing. Think it through, Obama stomped around this country saying how out of line insurance companies are, yet he and his cohorts forced us to do business with those very companies under threat of penalty for not doing so.  They now chastise judicial activism while trying to protect that veryt hing justthe same way.

The federal government is empowered to regulate commerce among the several states, not among the people within them. The Federal government was empowered to regulate the state governments when it came to TAXING, dutying and tariffing  commerce, not decide for individual people what commerce they could or could not engage in.  In no way was government itself formed to "regulate" the exercise of rights and even force or mandate their exercise. 

Governments are instituted among men to protect and defend the exercise of rights by free Citizens - not to decide for subjects if, when and where they can exercise them or not.

Interstate commerce is a fabrication and amounts to an amendment to the Constitution done within the Judiciary and even if it is 130 years standing - it must be resolved. Enough is enough. Even the Supreme Court, regardless of what its 9 robed kings say, must relent before the Constitution itself pertaining to what it says and what it does not say. Our Constitution does not delegate the power to regulate commerce among the people to the federal government or the state government - it does not delegate that authority to government itself. That is a right all people hold themselves, just like the freedom of speech.

Ousting Obamacare in the Court strengthens the commerce clause case law and that is exactly the wrong direction! We must restore the Constitution, not futher supplant it.  Don't take the bait.

That an individual right exists requires that some policy positions be removed from the table of debate.
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In my opinion

Submitted by Par for the Course on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 1:12pm.

In my opinion, the severability clause wasn't put into the bill at the request of a major stakeholder, the insurance industry. AHIP, America's Health Insurance Plans (providing Health Benefits for Over 200 Million Americans) issued a press release on November 19, 2008,  Health Plans Propose Guaranteed Coverage for Pre-Existing Conditions and Individual Coverage Mandate

[...]

Summary of AHIP’s Proposal to Guarantee Coverage for Pre-existing Conditions and Promote Affordability in the Individual Insurance Market:

Guarantee-issue coverage with no pre-existing condition exclusions;

Establish an individual coverage requirement with an insurance coverage verification system, an automatic enrollment process and effective enforcement of the requirement that all individuals purchase and maintain coverage;

[...]

If the Individual Mandate was ruled unconstitutional (as it has been) and was severable, the insurance industry would still have to comply with the remaining provisions of the law, which as AHIP states in it's press release:

[...]

Some individuals are unable to purchase individual health insurance coverage in the private market because of their health status. One approach taken by states to address this issue has been the enactment of guarantee issue legislation requiring health plans to offer coverage to all applicants. These well-intentioned reforms have often resulted in severe unintended consequences, including significantly higher costs for all policyholders.

A report by Milliman, Inc. found that enactment of guarantee issue laws in the absence of requirement that individuals purchase coverage may incentivize people to defer seeking coverage until they have health problems – a situation which unfairly penalizes those who are currently insured. According to the report, states that implemented these laws saw a rise in insurance premiums, a reduction of individual insurance enrollment and no significant decrease in the number of uninsured.

I think AHIP didn't want anything to do with the bill if the the individual mandate could be severed from the law and the White House acquiesced. I'm sure the White House didn't want a repeat of those "Harry and Louise" ads.

Just one of the many "deals" that were made with the major stakeholders to get the bill passed. But that's just my opinion.

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We know there were deals

Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 3:40pm.

Just not how many, and with whom.

But I like your thinking on the subject, Par.  As usual.

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Par,

Submitted by Ashrak on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 4:24pm.

That is it exactly. Obama, along with Democrats in general, get to keep the campaign theme, and blame the Insurance industry and the courts some more. This, while the bots say that not doing this, the individual mandate, is what actually costs us all more (as the illegal aliens they themselves support and defend soak up endless taxpayer dollars via medicaid).  The House of Cards is falling....No Doubt.
 

Obama isn't having the 'Hannibal' moment he anticipated. He and his buddies thought the "O" worship would grow endlessly and that eventually everybody would fall under the same spell the media journOlists did. They are finding out that Americans are a great deal smarter and willing to defend their freedom than they ever contemplated.

Obama is toast.

That an individual right exists requires that some policy positions be removed from the table of debate.
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→ Severability is coming

Submitted by Cool Arrow on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 1:16pm.

According to the Good Book, as well as Islamic Law, severability is coming soon to a decision center near you.

Convert or die.

Isn't it strange that so many kings are now surrendering their authority to an unnamed movement?

I ain't joking here.

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Oh the hypocricy*

Submitted by cajun2 on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 1:30pm.

The liberal mantra....tis good for thee but not for me....

They forgot a number of items that were excluded or included in this bill. If any of the msm would bother to read the bill they would be asking the question...Why 732 exemptions for unions and special interest groups friendly to the current President? If this bill is so wonderful, why is it not good enough for everyone?

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Cajun2,

Submitted by Ashrak on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 4:09pm.

It was nice to see Megyn Kelly put that very question to Mr. Weiner himself today.

That an individual right exists requires that some policy positions be removed from the table of debate.
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Healthcare is a mess

Submitted by dmaley1714 on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 1:48pm.

right now because of one person Ted Kennedy, who intinker with the free market created HMO's and began this whole mess.

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FRANTIC CRIMINALS INVARIABLY INCRIMINATE THEMSELF

Submitted by politicalpaw on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 3:57pm.

PERFECT ANALOGY:

Remember the Progressive Dems frantic Christmas Eve of 09'?

The degenerate that knocks off a 7/11 invariably leaves an incriminating fingerprint or a glove behind.  The criminal will attempt to impede the video cameras, too (Barack's HC debate on cameras lie).  LISTEN to Turley..."it was a COLOSSAL MISTAKE not to have a Severability Clause".  And Larry, "a Severability Clause can EASILY slip out during the word processing"

LMAO..."easily" if you're frantically extorting on 09' Christmas Eve!

There's a reason for the "Never Buy Something From Someone That's Out Of Breath" adage

@PoliticalPAW
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You see Larry, the problem is

Submitted by hbnolikeee on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 4:10pm.

When a thief is robbing you,  in his haste he makes errors.  Things like leaving evidence or forgetting to add a Severability  clause.

Once the libs took control of this country,  they were tripping over their arrogant greedy dishonest feet robbing us.  So, don't be so surprised when the thieves have screwed up pieces of the MASTER PLAN.

hbnolikeee
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Is there such a thing as a

Submitted by Martin2717 on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 4:49pm.

Is there such a thing as a liberal constitutional lawyer?

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lawyer

Submitted by Kilroy on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 5:50pm.

liberal constitutional lawyer, isn't that an oxymoron?

The world owes you a living, you just have to work hard to collect it.
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Pretty much.

Submitted by Martin2717 on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 7:38pm.

Pretty much.

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LAWRENCE O’DONNELL

Submitted by amyshulk on Wed, 02/02/2011 - 9:23pm.

Already knew the answer - he was on MJ before it was even passed saying they screwed up by leaving this out. My memory is faulty, but I remember how passionate and in the weeds on this issue he got.

The government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Ronald Reagan
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