Chris Matthews' Violent Imagery: 'Sarah Palin is Going to be Erased as a Potential Candidate'
While lambasting Sarah Palin for using violent imagery with her now infamous crosshairs election strategy map as well as her "Don't Retreat - RELOAD" Twitter posting, MSNBC's Chris Matthews used an expression concerning the former Alaska governor that could easily be misconstrued as a threat.
As he chatted with Cynthia Tucker and Richard Wolffe on "Hardball," the host said, "If she doesn't get off of this and stop trying to have somebody else skate her off of it like Glenn Beck or this person Mansour, she is going to be erased as a potential candidate" (video follows with transcript and commentary):
CHRIS MATTHEWS, HOST: Here's somebody who is sort of an associate of Sarah Palin, Rebecca Mansour, Mansour, she’s a conservative radio talk show host when she says this to Tammy Bruce, talk show host, on Saturday. This is the kind of defense we're getting. Let's listen.
(BEGIN AUDIO)
REBECCA MANSOOR: We never, ever, ever, ever intended it to be gun sights. It was simply crosshairs like you’d see on maps.
TAMMY BRUCE: Well, it’s surveyor’s, it’s a surveyor’s symbol, Rebecca...
MANSOUR: Surveyor’s symbol. And I just can’t wait to say this, Tammy, if I can…
BRUCE: Please.
MANSOUR: You know, this graphic was done, it was done not even in-house. We had a professional who does, political graphic artist, you know, consultant do this for us. So we saw it really quickly and we said that’s fine. That’s great. And we had never imagined or occurred to us that anybody would interpret it as violence because it’s not.
(END AUDIO)
MATTHEWS: Okay, this is idiotic. This is, everybody knows what a gun sight looks like. Everybody knows that Sarah Palin is very familiar with the imagery of a gun sight. She’s out there doing it on television with a big telescopic lens with a gun, gun sight. She, the language was bull's eye. The language was clearly lock and reload and everything. And now to come out and say that it's something to do with surveying details is nonsense. She is not answering. I will say this again. If she doesn't get off of this and stop trying to have somebody else skate her off of it like Glenn Beck or this person Mansour, she is going to be erased as a potential candidate. You cannot run like this. We can disagree.
Readers are advised that as Matthews was saying this, a "Sarah Palin's Alaska" clip was being shown of the former governor about to shoot a caribou. Rather ominously, just as the host said "erased as a potential candidate," the picture on the screen was the caribou in Palin's gun sight.
You want to talk about violent imagery?
Maybe Matthews wasn't aware that the word "erase," amongst other things, means kill.
From Dictionary.com:
Slang . to murder: The gang had to erase him before he informed on them.
Maybe Matthews also was unaware that the great mystery writer Raymond Chandler wrote a short story called "The Pencil" wherein receiving that writing instrument in the mail was a warning that you were about to be erased by the mob.
Now, to be sure, that's not what Matthews meant. But it seems tremendously hypocritical of him to be for the second day in a row carping and whining about Palin's SarahPAC map and her reload tweet whilst using a term about her that itself has a violent meaning, especially coincident with showing an image of a caribou in a gun sight's crosshairs.
If words do matter, and folks like Matthews want the rhetoric to be toned down, then they should be more careful not to be making statements that can be misinterpreted by deranged people like Jared Lee Loughner.
This seems especially important given that no matter how hard Palin tried to explain what she meant by "reload," folks like Matthews didn't care.
Here's the former governor speaking on the subject at March's Tea Party Express gathering in Searchlight, Nevada:
SARAH PALIN: Now, when I talk about "It’s not a time to retreat, it’s a time to reload," what I’m talking about – now media, try to get this right, okay? That’s not inciting violence. What’s that, that is doing is trying to inspire people to get involved in their local elections and these upcoming federal elections. It’s telling people that their arms are their votes. It’s not inciting violence. It’s telling people, “Don’t ever let anybody tell you to sit down and shut up Americans. You stand up and you stand tall.”
Pretty good explanation, right?
So was the one John McCain gave to NBC's Ann Curry two days earlier:
ANN CURRY: You're also working, Senator, for re-election. And I understand that Sarah Palin will be joining you in Arizona as you campaign tomorrow. And as we just saw from Kelly O'Donnell's report, she has used some pretty incendiary language. She Tweeted in response to the health care vote, "Commonsense, conservative and lovers of America don't retreat, instead reload." And on her Facebook page she also posted a map highlighting weak Democratic districts that conservatives should target with a crosshair symbol. Considering these threats, these concerns, that we've been hearing about regarding violence, do you think, do you now recommend that your party use less incendiary language and will you say that to her tomorrow?
JOHN MCCAIN: Ann, I have seen the rhetoric of targeted districts as long as I've been in politics. Please. This is - any threat of violence is terrible. But to say that there is a targeted district or that we reload or go back in to the fight again, please. That's just language.
CURRY: Those are not my words, those are her words!
MCCAIN: Oh those, those are fine. We, they're used all the time. Those words have been used throughout my political career.
CURRY: But should they be perhaps used less.
MCCAIN: There are targeted districts.
CURRY: Sorry for interrupting Senator.
MCCAIN: There are targeted districts and there are areas that we call battleground states. And so, please. That, that rhetoric and kind of language is just part of the political lexicon. It is in no place for threats or violence or anything else. But to say someone is in a battle ground state, is not originated today.
CURRY: Senator, with all due respect and, and I, I heard what you had to say.
MCCAIN: With all due respect, that's, that's, with all due respect that's simply...
CURRY: No let me just simply, let me just inject this one question sir.
MCCAIN: Sure.
CURRY: The question is, given even if, even if what you're saying is, is accepted by everyone that this is a language of campaigning, this is the language of politics. Given, however, the sensitivity regarding this particular bill, should this still be the language of this day, given how much we are hearing about hundreds of calls regarding threats, about vandalism, about the gas line of a congressman's brother's home being cut. Sir, this is, these are very dangerous times. Is this the language that we should be hearing today?
MCCAIN: The language that we should be using today is the language that we are using. We condemn violence. We, we condemn threats of violence. If anyone does that, and violates the law, they will be persecuted to the full extent of the law and that there is no place for it. But to somehow say that someone's in a battleground state is somehow offensive simply, I'm sorry.
CURRY: Well I think it's the "reload" and the, and the crosshairs, I think, that's caused a lot of people to be concerned, Senator.
MCCAIN: Well maybe it has and we condemn any violence, any threats of violence. But I've heard all of that language throughout my political career. But we have to do everything we can to make sure the American people know that there's no place for that in America but what has just been done, against the overwhelming opposition of the American people, sleazy deals done in an unprecedented fashion, of course has people angry. That anger should be, should be channeled into voter registration and go continue the, the struggle that we're in to regain America and stop mortgaging our children's futures.
Now, almost ten months later, no matter how this was explained by Palin and her former running mate, people like Matthews are continuing to not only misinterpret her meaning, but also claim that what she said and did is inciting violence.
If they're right, then Matthews' comment about Palin being erased - with the image of a caribou in a gun sight's crosshairs on the screen - is equally inflammatory.
If the Left wants conservatives to be careful with their metaphors, they had better practice what they preach or keep their hypocritical concerns to themselves.
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Comments
Even with the bulk of the
Submitted by d1carter on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:07pm.
Even with the bulk of the elite media, the left cannot sell the American people on their Marxist ideology...it simple will not work. Look out for the backlash.
I really think they have way,
Submitted by Chris Norman on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:17pm.
I really think they have way, way, overplayed the hand they had absolutely no business playing in the first place.
Tingles....
Submitted by adamsmith on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:41pm.
Tingles and the rest of the Progressive Propagandists will get Palin elected. The electorate sees this kind of garbage and say maybe we should give Palin another look if these liars are so adament about trashing her at all costs. That's the way it works in Marxist world, the laws of unintended consequences destroy these Communists every time. 2012 is going to be one interesting campaign. Even more so as the Progressive America haters will have no chance in Hell with the economy they are purposely destroying to implement their George Soros Utopia....
Chris,
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:44pm.
I agree.
And I think it is about to backfire and blow up in their faces, too.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
"The Eraser"
Submitted by kg on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:53pm.
In the movie "The Eraser" the victims were put in a tub and hydrochloric acid was poured on the screaming victim.
Nice Chris....real nice!
"DumbAssity of Dope"
Neal Boortz proved that the "crosshairs" are really
Submitted by Clutch1956 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:17pm.
surveyor's marks on Palin's map, while the DemonRATs used "behind enemy lines" and bulls-eyes on their maps. http://boortz.com/nealz_nuze/2011/01/sarah-palins-map.html
Clutch re crosshairs
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:23pm.
The only problem is that Palin herself described them as" bullseyes".
Jer
Tonight, Hannity read off a number of "crosshair" . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:15pm.
. . . references applied by ABC and the Dems about Palin in 2008-2010.
The focus on Palin has merely been a manifestation of the ongoing MSM/Left assault on her. Matthews disgusting comments on his show this evening are typical of the kind of crap going around. The Daily Kos and DLC had target lists and/or maps long before Palin.
Yes indeed, Galvanic... a
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:27pm.
Yes indeed, Galvanic...
a fact I've acknowledged REPEATEDLY in the past three days. What does that have to do with my merely pointing out the FACT that Palin described them as bullseyes instead of surveyor marks? I'm not attaching any significance to icons which the Dems have also used. The symbols--and Palin's rhetoric [even if it pushed the boundaries]--had, by every indication, absolutely nothing to do with Loughner's mad assault.
Jer
Jer
Submitted by well99 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:34pm.
The symbols--and Palin's rhetoric [even if it pushed the boundaries]--had, by every indication, absolutely nothing to do with Loughner's mad assault.
It didnt push no boundaries.It is just unacceptable for the left for people not to fall in line.They must meekly accept what the left will allow them.Now I'm not a gun guru but I never seen a scope which had the lines extend outside the circle.That would be a neat trick.
well99...
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:48pm.
My only point is that she called them bullseyes.
Jer
Jer
Submitted by well99 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:51pm.
I understood that.I wasnt ripping on you so much as the leftist.There is a difference between liberals or centralist and leftist in my book.Then again my book has never been sold.
Got a link?
Submitted by ckc1227 on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 12:38am.
Even if she did call them bullseyes, she was wrong. She could have called them big macs if she wanted, they are still survey points on a map.
ckc...
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 1:07am.
Here.
Jer
Tough to compete
Submitted by Captain Repus on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 1:40am.
Tough to compete intellectually with someone who seems to have instantaneous and unlimited access to the MSDNC database archives on all three shifts. It must have been running on a slow computer a couple of days ago when you couldn't find accurate information about what is in fact a standard Surveyor's location symbol used on Palin's map after 45 minutes searching. Our other commenters found the symbol on 'public' database systems in just seconds.
Also interesting that after pointing the true meaning of that symbol to you more that 2 days ago, none of the MSDNC talk show hosts have found it necessary to relate that information on the air.
I don't understand why Chris
Submitted by mostlymoderate on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:19pm.
I don't understand why Chris Matthews feels the need to promote violence against somebody just because they disagree politically. Reminds me of that movie that advocated the assassination of G.W. Bush when he was in office. Ah, but Hollywood commended that movie, remember?
Chris Matthews needs to slow his violent rhetoric.
Chrissy...
Submitted by adamsmith on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:43pm.
I'd be happier if he just drank himself to death. That's not violent rhetoric, there's no violence with a drunk doing himself in.....
adamsmith
Submitted by well99 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:47pm.
There is no need to be happy over anyones death.With the exception of terrorist.Why sink to that level?
Am I the only one who thought of this?
Submitted by dronetek on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:30pm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvlaojjyTWY
Dronetek: From The Source
dronetek,
Submitted by Dave. on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:56pm.
No, you aren't.
I thought of the exact same scene when I opened this thread.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Chris are you responsible for death wishes on Sara?
Submitted by well99 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:42pm.
Are these people wishing Sara's death on twitter because of you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxgJKNpjSNI&feature
Bad language.
well99.....Thanks for the link. I was aware that there were
Submitted by Rush Fan on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 1:55am.
Palin haters out there, but this is disgusting and turns my stomach. It's frightening to think that some of these creeps may live near me.
Rush Fan
Submitted by well99 on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 2:10am.
Your welcome.It is scary.These people need to step away from the computer and run..not walk to the nearest mental heath clinic.
Remenber when Palin's Church
Submitted by Vonu on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:44pm.
was fired-bombed while children were inside?
didn't think so.
no story there. nope.
As I said before:
Submitted by djwolf12 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 10:46pm.
I like the useful idiot of choice Chris Matthews has on his show to talk about Violence, Vitriol, and the right wing: Congressman Emanuel Cleaver! Please, the way M.S.S.R. has been ginning up talk of banning all words and symbols that even hint of violent imagery, the congressman would be forced by the Government to change his last name.
Where is Palin?
Submitted by Vonu on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:09pm.
Chris wants to know.
The poets down here don't write nuthin at all
they just stand back and let it all be.
OR
Give 'em enough rope...
OR
be THE adult and let the facts come out before speaking,
t/h br. springsteen
jungleland
Well, DUH, Chris isn't that the goal of the MSM, erase Sarah?
Submitted by Red Jeep on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:02pm.
What kind of violent talk is that Chris, erase someone? Rub them out.
I hope you keep trying to get political advantage from this shooting because it will be the beginning of your end.
Chris is just like the rest of the left
Submitted by va5thdistrict on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:09pm.
Matthews would like to see conservatives have there 1st amendment rights taken from them. The left will continue to use intimidation and lies to coerce the right into quelling there God given right to free speech. Besides wanting new laws regulating speech and symbols we now have renewed talk about instituting the Fairness Act. As always it is only hate speech if it comes from conservatives.
http://va5thdistrict.blogspot.com/2011/01/stay-strong.html
silence of the lambs
Submitted by Vonu on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:14pm.
Isn't that about a serial killer?
Silent
on the lam
What is meant here? Graphic Viloence
Like the rest of the libtards gunning for Palin...
Submitted by KyWriter on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:23pm.
...Chrissy is infuriated she won't come out so he can knock her down (as if he could). Palin's expression of condolence was timely, dignified and completely appropriate. She very wisely is saying little more, as she knows anything she says would be twisted by the self-deluded stars of the liberal media and impotent blogging also-rans who are desperate for a bone to gnaw. Chrissy's career and his standard Soros-directed politics are tanking and this mindlessness will untilmately have severe consequences. It seems every liberal or leftist commentator abandoned all reason at the moment of the tragedy and by the hour attempted to rachet up the vitriol in the most unhinged systematic political assassination attempt I have ever seen. It became so visibly unhinged that the public simply quit buying it.
Some of the wiser ones are now scaling it back, couching their phrases in general condemnation of the rhetoric of the right, although everyone knows their primary target is and always will be Sarah Palin. Yet Matthews, Olberman, et al, seem to have given up any attempt to veil that hatred.
If it weren't for the unspeakable tragedy that provoked this undeniable crack-up, it would be fun to watch them implode.
Check out the new liberal t-shirt
Submitted by mrt721 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:40pm.
"CALM DOWN! IT'S JUST A SURVEYOR'S MARK!"
I wonder how many Tingles ordered?
Whoa. Edward G. Matthews starring in "Little Caesar"
Submitted by SickofLibs on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:43pm.
"Listen you mugs, we're gonna rub her out, see?"
Here's an idea...
Submitted by MightyMouth on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 11:52pm.
Let's let liberal, leftist jackasses tell us who our next Republican candidate will be? Oh wait... we tried that once .... and LOST!!!!!!!!!
MM,
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 12:01am.
And if we aren't careful, we are going to see the same thing happen again, as Romney the RINO and the Huckster are currently leading in the "polls."
I give Huck a boost only because of his support for the FairTax, but RomneyCare is a 400 lb. albatross hanging from Romney's neck.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Dave...
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 12:05am.
Please check PMs.
Jer
Jer,
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 12:11am.
I will be happy to as soon as I noodle out how to get there without having to reload from dead scratch
LOL - *%^#@% software upgrade.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Not fair Jer (hey that rhymes)
Submitted by MightyMouth on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 12:12am.
How about filling you're old buddy MM in on replies to his post. eh buddy? ole pal?
MM...
Submitted by Jer on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 12:31am.
Check PM.
Jer
Big Wuss
Submitted by grammajane on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 12:25am.
Matheews, olberfool, schultz , williams and all the other radicals have probably never in their lifes shot a shot-gun,, fished, played hockey or anyother sport including snow-mobiling and are so jealous of Palin and many other attractive conservative who have done so. These wusses spend 99% of their time trying to be arrogant, elite tv "hosts" thinking people appreciate their news and views. Do they ever talk about sports or anything positive in life??? No, no, no just spend time trying to impress what veiwers they have which are few and far between.........
Who cares what the Left wants? Those on the Right who have
Submitted by Rush Fan on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 1:42am.
backbone refuse to let the Left either impose their opinions on us or define our positions.
I heard a former Congressman who is a moderate Republican (RINO) on CNN's John King Show today say that "we need to lower the rhetoric. We need to lower the tone. "
BULL! Given the damage that Obama and the Democrats have already done, and what they intend to do if they get the opportunity, the rhetoric and the tone on our side should be increased, not lowered. Unlike those on the LEFT, we can accomplish this peacefully.
I think
Submitted by panzerakc on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 4:15am.
the Left ought to be the first to tone down the rhetoric.
After all, isn't it up the more intelligent, enlightened, tolerant, compassionate etc., etc., ad nauseum, folks on the left to show us knuckle-dragging, gun clutching, bible clinging, Neanderthal savages on the Right how it's done?
Let them "set an example".
(I am not holding my breath until this happens.)
Chris Matthew's is nothing
Submitted by Barack_must_go..... on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 7:59am.
Chris Matthew's is nothing more than an opportunistic, reprehenible, little liberal pussy.
Barack_Must_Go.....
Is that the sound...
Submitted by Toast of the Town on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 9:14am.
of Chrissy's ratings going even further down the flusher? Is that even possible?
Yep...and .............
Submitted by Patriot II on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 11:27am.
Chris "the tingler" matthews is going to be erased as an imposter news commentator!!!
It may be a great time-
Submitted by JIMMY1660 on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 12:12pm.
to invite Mathews to sit in front of a congressional hearing and explain himself.
lets get the lights on the "players"-and have some truth.
If something happens to any
Submitted by marpel on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 2:01pm.
If something happens to any conservatives or Tea Party people, Chris Matthews, Joe Scarborough, Keith Olbermann and that fat Ed Schultz will be responsible.
"Deep within my heart lies a memory. A song of ol' San Antone..."