Headline: "Gabrielle Giffords' Blood Is On Sarah Palin's Hands"
As media members fall over themselves railing against conservatives for Saturday's tragedy in Tucson, they seem to be becoming more unhinged with their accusations.
Consider the following headline published by the New York Daily News:
Then:
Sarah Palin should've known what she was doing when she put a target on Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (below). Palin might as well have said, 'Fire!'
Once inside the article:
Here is what Sarah Palin said on the Facebook page where she depicted Gabrielle Giffords in the cross hairs of a rifle scope: "Don't retreat! Instead - RELOAD!"
Well, the guy who shot Giffords yesterday managed to keep firing until he killed six, including a child, and wounded 13 . [...]
And, now that Palin may have the blood of more than some poor caribou on her hands, I wonder if she will continue putting people in cross hairs and calling on folks to RELOAD!
Isn't there a saying about people in glass houses?
(H/T Right Scoop)
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Lunatics!!! Absolute lunatics..............
Submitted by BEGRUNT on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 3:26pm.
This has to stop!!! The foaming at the mouth LSM is completly out of control. There is going to be a backlash against these idiots.....they may be soon out of a job, if the over the top rhetoric continues. Disgusting!!!
"A nation can suffer it's fool's, but cannot survive the traitor"
Cicero
Yawn. Another example of why normal NYers read the Post.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 3:29pm.
.
Target on my back*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 3:31pm.
There has been a target on my back for 2 yrs now. As a tea party member, I take it personal when I am called racist, ill informed, ignorant, tea bagging , violent, wing nut. But I suppose to the lying media that kind of rhetoric is acceptable since it is part of their tactics in order to further their agenda. This is a sad day when the enemy is ordinary patriotic hard working Faithful Americans.
Today is indeed a sad and tragic day. It is the day of the death of Journalism.
Journalism died years ago
Submitted by liberalsarefunny on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 3:33pm.
Journalism died years ago when reporters stopped calling themselves reporters and started calling themselves journalists.
Ridiculous
Submitted by jon_torlin on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 3:48pm.
This is the kind of thing I was worried about, the LSM's attempt to rile up the lefty wackos out there. It's called "fomenting violence." If they don't stop this nonsense(even senators are saying lay off the rhetoric), there's going to be some major problems.
Absolutely utterly ridiculous.
-Jon
The left cant come to grips with reality of their actions.......
Submitted by merly1 on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 3:59pm.
I have been predicting this behavior wouldn't end well ---on these pages and elsewhere---- ever since the jaw-dropping riots at the St Paul RNC, which was then followed by more confrontations of public officials (Palin, Emmer, Coulter) at public events. St Paul even ended with McCain being rudely interrupted at his OWN acceptance speech in St Paul. Sadly, way way way too many defend the "right to protest" of these lunatics, just like people did merely a generation ago when rioting/violence was common, even chic. Let's see--that ended with one Prez being shot at, in 1975, and another Prez nearly killed by a bullet in 1981. America survived the Presidential assaults last generation, and will survive this, but public figures should be allowed to meet their fans or supporters without fear. The Az case is horrible for the poor Congresswoman, but also all the collateral victims who merely went to have some socializing with friends. Our family actually DID leave palin's MOA appearance after the loon was arrested, because of the fear of what might happen next....nothing did, but yesterday reinforced the fact that nutjobs are our there! The very very angry rhetoric began again after Bush v Gore, and really hit a peak in the streets of St Paul, 2008.Where were you during the 90's?
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 4:25pm.
Bob Grant was calling for Hillary Clinton to be "put down". Kim "the Great American"Peterson was lamenting that firing squads weren't available to take care of the traitor Clinton--he laughed uproariously when a caller suggested commandeering a C-131 gunship, flying over the White House and putting an incendiary shell up "that boy's ass"; Militia groups exploded and Tim McVeigh seriously considered assassinating Janet Reno; gun targets were available with Bill Clinton's head in the bulls-eye. G. Gordon Liddy was regaling his callers with the details of executing "head shots".on government officials. I think you get the picture.
Jer
Jer, I used to listen to
Submitted by Free Stinker on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 4:37pm.
Jer,
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
Free...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 4:47pm.
It was a conservative talk show host. My recollection is that it was Grant, but I'll try to verify the source of the reported statement.
Kim "the Great American" Peterson. Afternoon talk jockey in Atlanta market on WGST for years. Ex-Marine, Clinton-hater... podcasts were available via internet to our military around the world
What does McVeigh's religion or lack thereof have to do with anything? He was a right-wing gun nut and rabid Clinton and Reno hater
He didn't sell them. He gave them away.
Agree about Liddy.
Jer
My point about McVieh is that
Submitted by Free Stinker on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:15pm.
My point about McVieh is that he was not right wing.
And, the guy who gave away those shirts, that dude sounds like a real a-hole.
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
Free...follow-up
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 5:58pm.
Grant has apparently longed for the deaths of the Clintons generally, but I haven't been able to locate the "put down" comment, although a Phoenix talk show host, Bob Mohan, called for Sarah Brady to be "put down" by a veterinarian.
Grant has called for evironmentalists to be lined up against a wall and shot, and for Gay Pride marchers to be machine gunned by the police, and once suggested a caller get a gun and do something about his displeasure with the federal government. He was terminated after making an intemperate remark regarding the tragic death of Ron Brown.
see generally this source. The section on Grant begins on p. 138.
Jer
Reputable book Jer.
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 5:57pm.
Reputable book Jer.
Yeah, I couldn't find it in
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:09pm.
Yeah, I couldn't find it in World Net Daily or on Rush's website, just in a researched treatise with footnotes.
Jer
You of course looked at the
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:23pm.
You of course looked at the footnotes and the whole picture? They are not exactly reliable, more like gossip.
No, Dan, I'll let you perform
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:22pm.
No, Dan, I'll let you perform that function since you seem very interested in the matter. Or you can believe the author simply made up all of the quotes. Whatever suits you.
Jer
Typical Jer, the quotes are
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 3:55am.
Typical Jer, the quotes are bogus and taken out of context. Have you looked at the sources or the quotes in context? Go back and look at them.
Dan...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 4:08am.
Give me an example of a bogus quote being taken out of context. If you are correct, I'll amend or retract it.
Jer
By your remark you obviously
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 4:50am.
By your remark you obviously have not researched any of the comments, taking the book at its word.
By your remark I can only
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 4:53am.
By your remark I can only assume you have researched the comments and found them to be bogus and out of context--since that is exactly what you claimed So please go ahead and provide me with at least one example.
Thanks,
Jer
The onus is upon you since
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 7:00am.
The onus is upon you since you presented the material as an authority. I don't want to do all your research. No I have not found any because the footnotes were not included in what you presented. So there are no supporting facts for the book. Therefore you book is bogus.
Dan, you are free to
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 7:19am.
Dan, you are free to disbelieve the author, claim the quotes were made up, accuse Soros of altering the wording, or verify them yourself. I really don't care. Your position--as you have previously made clear--is that unless original transcripts are produced from a couple of decades ago the offered material is meaningless.
Ii's absurd of course, but suit yourself.
Jer
I challenged your link and
Submitted by Dan The Man 2 on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 8:07am.
I challenged your link and asked for backup and you call me absurd. Jer be ashamed of yourself. If you cant prove the book is vaklid by producing footnotes then say so, man up Jer. At least provide the footnortes Jer.
Dan you made a clear and
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 8:24am.
Dan you made a clear and unequivocal claim that the quotes were bogus and taken out of context. So, back up your claim. Buy the book. Review the footnotes. And let me know what you find.
Jer
Quotes from some guy named
Submitted by Whoa on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 3:07pm.
Quotes from some guy named Grant? Who cares? Is he the mouth piece for conservative thought?
Are you serious, Whoa?
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 3:38pm.
Some guy named Grant was one of the first and more influential hosts of conservative talk radio.
Jer
Jer, I recall the exact
Submitted by Free Stinker on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:18pm.
Jer,
I recall the exact remark Bob Grant made about Ron Brown.
Immediately after the first news of the the crash, he said "I think Ron Brown probably survived, but that's because I'm a pesimist." I think I have that quote pretty close.
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
I'm curious. How many bullets
Submitted by ant on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 4:37pm.
I'm curious. How many bullets did the Clintons receive from the gun of a conservative? Last I checked their skulls were still intact.
I'm curious, ant..
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 5:33pm.
How you can possibly confuse the term "angry rhetoric" with a bullet in the head? Maybe you should check the closing sentence of the post I addressed before deflecting the issue.
Jer
Exactly Jer, how does the
Submitted by ant on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 5:44pm.
Exactly Jer, how does the left link "angry rhetoric" from their favorite enemies to a "bullet in the head". If there is a correlation should not Clinton, Pelosi, Obama, and others already have been the targets of assassination? Why would someone so inflamed by the speech on one side go after a virtually unknown Congresswoman? Someone really enraged by 'angry rhetoric" would be likely to go after those people who are the most prominent subject of such discussions, wouldn't you think? After all, Chapman went after Lennon himself, not his rythym guitarist.
OUCH
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 5:48pm.
I think Jer just stepped into a right hook.
ant swung and missed me,
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:00pm.
ant swung and missed me, Cool...
and you just got flattened.
Jer
→ Sorry, Jer
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:03pm.
In the absence of Stinker, I dub myself scorekeeper here.
ant - 1
Jer - 0
ant...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:06pm.
You'll need to address your concerns to someone on the left who has actually made such correlation.
I specifically addressed the contention of jondelwiche that the "very angry rhetoric began again" after the Bush/Gore election, which conveniently ignored the pervasive--and well documented--highly incendiary rhetoric of the 90's.
Jer
→ You're right, Jer
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:08pm.
At least Bill Clinton said "You better put some ice on that (lip)", after raping Juanita Broderick.
What a gentleman!!!
Sorry, Cool..
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:11pm.
You just got every point you've ever earned at this website expunged for that completely irrelevant aside.
Jer
→ Thanks, Jer
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:13pm.
I aims to please.
→ And then there's . . .
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:11pm.
Janet Reno attacking the hold of David Koresh after she observed him to be mentally disturbed.
But violence against children is OK as long as it's a Democrat doing it.
Have we discussed this before? I forget.
Run play patty cake with
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:16pm.
Run play patty cake with ucw and you two can swap your favorite Koresh fables. [BTW...I still have The Children of Waco on my DVR. Would you like to hear verbatim accounts of the rape of children?]
Jer
I'm sorry Jer
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:20pm.
I forgot that was a perfectly acceptable reason to kill them in the Liberal world.
Hmmm, Cool...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:26pm.
I think you may have just stumbled on the motive for Koresh incinerating the kids. Maybe he was not quite as deranged as I thought. Still evil, though.
Jer
→ Yep
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:30pm.
No doubt about that.
You see, Cool Arrow, you must
Submitted by ant on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:28pm.
You see, Cool Arrow, you must first go through the Janet Reno-accepted channels of joining NAMBLA before you're allowed to rape children, just as all infidelities and molestation's commited by Oval Office Holders must be approved by NOW.
Oh, I understand what you're
Submitted by ant on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:24pm.
Oh, I understand what you're saying, Jer, and I have to admit, you don't tow the liberal line as much as you did in your comments past. However, I don't recall such hateful wishes of death and suffering on political enemies back then as I do from the beginning of Bush's election to the present, but then again, during Clinton's terms I was too busy working to pay tax bills as a result of punishment for actually having the nerve to work.
ant...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:34pm.
I take liberal positions on a number of issues, but I've never consistently "toed the liberal line". It may have been that when you first started noticing my posts, I was in the middle of a stretch where I just happened to be adhering to the line more than usual.
Jer
Jer,
Submitted by ant on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:08pm.
duly noted. And I've only been here about a year, but maybe some ideas are rubbing off on you. Heck, in my youth I thought Reagan was an evil idiot but I slowly began to look at both sides of things and was convinced I had been in error.
ant...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:31pm.
That's something of a coincidence. Although I never considered Reagan an "evil idiot", I didn't vote for him and I consistently underestimated his abilities. A few years after he was out of office, I began to seriously reassess Reagan personally as well as his presidency, and I now consider him to be the best President in my lifetime.
Jer
Of course you follow Obama's
Submitted by The Glen on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 8:28pm.
Of course you follow Obama's not angry rhetoric, every lib would be pulling guns if they thought we had a knife. Unrelated note, wasn't Lennon the rhythm guitarist?
The Glen,
Submitted by ant on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 8:55pm.
Yea, he was but I was thinking more along the lines of his solo concert days. He seemed to have quite a large band with him then.
It would seem to me that by
Submitted by ant on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 4:05pm.
It would seem to me that by their own standards, every case of an American citizen killed by an illegal alien ( of which there is no shortage of stories) can then be placed fully on the shoulders of Pres. Obama, not only for continuing failed policy but by fomenting the racial aspect of "fighting our enemies" and preventing States from enforcing laws that he said had the potential for "racial discrimination". This would then make BO guilty of murder and a cause for his removal of office.
The left better start walking this story-line back because I don't believe they understand the concept of unintended consequences and the idea that 'two can play at this game'.
'[T]wo can play at this game,' but not equally.
Submitted by needle on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 9:22pm.
When the Right (politically and morally) attempts to make points along the lines you suggest the microphone controlled by the Left ( = sinister in Latin, BTW) are switched off.
- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.
Much less so these days.
Submitted by pbthinker on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 10:40pm.
I believe the press has less and less influence these days than it used to. What we've seen, the past few days, is the rhetoric of the left overwhelming the media. There hasn't been much common sense out there, that's for sure. However, I honestly believe that the majority of people, who don't view this through a partisan lens, will agree this guy was just deranged.
That being said, we just won an election without the support of the press. There was no MSM outlet comdemning the Democrats running Congress and the way they rammed through their legislation. There has been no MSM outlet that has presented the facts of the Health Care Bill and pointed out its numerous flaws, yet it's in the negative.
I believe the LSM is losing it's power and the way they've presented this is exactly why. No one trusts them any more.
I wondered the same thing.
Submitted by Unsilent_Minority on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 10:37am.
If you can lay the blame for Giffords' shooting at the feet of Sarah Palin simply for her "heated rhetoric", then clearly President Obama has to take the blame for the increase in violence along the border with Mexico. If Mexican illegals have been prodded to "punish their enemies" by the POTUS, and have clearly done so, then he is guilty of much more than heated rhetoric. This makes him a party to murder.
The 'Map(s)' issue debunked!
Submitted by Neox99 on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 5:03pm.
http://jforbes.us/maps/
Read it and weep, liberal kooks!
This tweets will vindicate Palin and TeaParty
Submitted by Lee Hoffman on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 5:14pm.
Please pass this around and know that I’ve stop blogging since McCain lost but I just cannot take this anymore from the Libs/Democrats. This tweets will vindicate Palin and TeaParty. (01/08/10 Tweets from either NPR, HUFFS or DAILYKOS
Jared’s is a Leftwinger,classmates says it all. This is to vindicate Palin and TeaParty. From yesterdays (01/08/10) Tweets from either NPR, HUFFS or DAILYKOS I was trying to get all the tweets and news from both before they get scrubbed!
@cxx I can't manage all these media requests & Too much too fast, can't keep up.
@cxx This is a circus. Good Morning America just called me. @anxx it's loughner just checked my year book. @lexx I haven't seen him since '07. then, he was left wing more left. @oax I haven't seen him since '07 though. He became very reclusive. @axx he had a lot of friends until he got alcohol poisoning in '06, & dropped out of school. Mainly loner very philosophical.
@ anxx As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy.
@anxx he was a pot head & into rock like Hendrix,The Doors, Anti-Flag. I haven't seen him in person since '07 in a sign language class
@anxx before in '07, asked her a question & he told me she was "stupid & unintelligent"
@anxx I can. That is him. @anxx I went to high school, college, & was in a band with the gunman. This tragedy has just turned to horrific.
@anrxx Official I went to high school & college, & was in a band w/the gunman. I can't even fathom this right now Saying Jared Laughner was the gunman. Really hoping that's not the same guy I went to HS with, really good friend. Freaking out right now!!!
@anxx Arizona law enforcement official: "A person in the crowd shot back at the gunman."
Retweeted by @tiexx Rep. Giffords was on #Palin's infamous "target" map: http://usat.ly/e4NSjp Today she was shot in Tuscon. What is the US turning into? #p2
Retweeted by @arxx RT @alxx Sarah Palin *literally* put a gun sight on @Rep_Giffords. See Palin's map: http://bit.ly/fLwY2g
Retweeted by @acxx KOLD_news13 LATE BREAKING: UMC officials confirm Rep. Giffords is in surgery. She has not been declared dead. **Please RT**
Retweeted by @paxx Gabrielle Giffords reportedly died. Well Tucson politics are shot to hell. You've done one hell of a job. Thank you for your service.
! Giffords was shot in the head point blank. Not good!!!!
Disgraceful
Submitted by nicodemus on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 5:23pm.
It took 15 years, but I'm finally done with the NYDN. I've known for some time that they have a ridiculous obsession with negative Palin coverage, but to see this on the front page...an absolute disgrace. In any other context this kind of irresponsible coverage would get someone fired, but they apparently have no shame, and there are too many who agree with this nonsense (just read the comment section of the linked story, if you dare).
I knew there would be folks in the media who would immediately exploit this to further their agenda, but I thought it would just be the usual "gun control" lobby. I didn't see THIS garbage coming, and it's the last straw for me. Thank god there are places like this that call the media out on their BS. And thank god for the NY Post, cuz I sure as hell won't switch to the Times!
Michael Savage was right
Submitted by Dave. on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 5:34pm.
These people have a serious mental disorder.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Next to the shooting itself....
Submitted by almostacowboy on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:37pm.
...this is the next saddest thing.
Under the heading of "How low can you go?"......this low.
Especially when...
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 9:30pm.
the crude political exploitation of this violent attack is being made by those who pretend to be the intelligent and sophisticated media elite.
We are all on the wrong side
Submitted by Tjexcite on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:09pm.
We are all on the wrong side, to bad morals get in the way because there could be only one side then.
And the targets drawn on
Submitted by Cowboy on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 11:13pm.
And the targets drawn on districts on the DCCC map?
And Olbermann's mad-up wideo with violence ahainst Rush Limbaugh?
And Markos' blog on Daily Kos saying that his Congresswomwn (Gabrielle Giffords) was "dead to him" ??
So much childish immaturity...
Submitted by webmonkeydc on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 2:03am.
Maybe less of the blame game would be played if people asked: What If It Were My Daughter? http://www.richardtgarner.com/2011/01/what-if-it-were-my-daughter.html
If There is Blood on Sarah's Hands it's From a Moose
Submitted by USAmerican on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 9:24pm.
She can field dress one! That's what makes her great.
Don't retreat Sarah, reload... those surveyor's symbols that directed voters to "redraw" the congressional districts with new representatives.
Yeah, that's it. When we talk about guns, we don't mean the shooty kind. But the metaphoric, intellectual gun of our minds. Yes, that's it.
I realize I'm probably
Submitted by ant on Wed, 01/12/2011 - 12:36pm.
I realize I'm probably casting pearls at swine here, but you know one of the many things the left doesn't seem to understand? For example, they believe that if Rush, or Palin, or whoever, talk about Nasty Pelosi than that's what gets people hating Pelosi. When the fact is, it's the words and deeds of Nasty Pelosi, herself, that cause the anger. We have these devices like computers now, full of information, so if I want to find out what an idiot scumbag like Pelosi is up to, I don't have to wait for Rush Limbaugh to tell me. So maybe the lefts real problem is with the dissemination of information, period. Perhaps, now this is just a theory, if someone, like Pelosi for example, behaved more like a Statesman concerned with the will and freedom of the people and less like a thieving, lying, condescending little tyrant unconcerned with the people, then maybe there would be a lot less anger and frustration amongst the people. Just a thought.