Paul Krugman Blames Giffords Shooting on Palin, Limbaugh and Beck
While Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords (D-Ariz.) fights for her life in a Tucson, Arizona, hospital, liberal media members continue to point fingers of blame for Saturday's tragic shooting spree at prominent conservatives such as Sarah Palin, Rush Limbaugh, and Glenn Beck.
Jumping on this pathetic bandwagon Saturday was New York Times columnist Paul Krugman:
We don’t have proof yet that this was political, but the odds are that it was. She’s been the target of violence before. And for those wondering why a Blue Dog Democrat, the kind Republicans might be able to work with, might be a target, the answer is that she’s a Democrat who survived what was otherwise a GOP sweep in Arizona, precisely because the Republicans nominated a Tea Party activist. (Her father says that “the whole Tea Party” was her enemy.) And yes, she was on Sarah Palin’s infamous “crosshairs” list. [...]
You know that Republicans will yell about the evils of partisanship whenever anyone tries to make a connection between the rhetoric of Beck, Limbaugh, etc. and the violence I fear we’re going to see in the months and years ahead. But violent acts are what happen when you create a climate of hate. And it’s long past time for the GOP’s leaders to take a stand against the hate-mongers.
The Left are making a big issue out of the fact that Palin targeted Giffords as a vulnerable Democrat last year, but Markos Moulitsas did the same thing in June 2008:
As we've seen these past couple of weeks, we've got a problem in our caucus -- while we have been busy stocking up on more Democrats, fact is the good ones are being swamped by the bad ones. [...]
If your local congresscritter is one of the bad apples, start organizing locally. Plug into existing networks or start your own. Begin looking for primary challengers. Do the groundwork. Don't expect help from the local party establishment, they'll close ranks. So tap into alternate infrastructures. Find allies in the progressive movement. If your local shitty Democrat is anti-union, approach the unions. They'd love to send this kind of message. If the Democrat is anti-choice, work with the women's groups. If the Democrat is anti-environment ... you get the idea. If you have access to professional networks and money, start organizing those.
Of course, this takes more than just bitching about your frustrations on a blog, damning a whole party for the actions of a minority more scared of Mr. 28% than of protecting the Constitution they swore to protect. This takes hard work. But now is the time to start.
And while people like me will focus on the task at hand this year, it won't be long after Election Day that we'll start looking at the 2010 map, looking for those great primary challengers.
Who to primary? Well, I'd argue that we can narrow the target list by looking at those Democrats who sold out the Constitution last week. I've bolded members of the Blue Dogs for added emphasis.
Giffords was one of the House representatives Markos bolded (h/t HillBuzz):
"Not all of these people will get or even deserve primaries, but this vote certainly puts a bulls eye on their district."
The reality is that Moulitsas did absolutely nothing wrong in June 2008. Political strategists target opponets. Period.
But it appears Moulitsas forgot this when he pointed his own accusatory finger at Palin with a tweet Saturday:
As I tweeted to Moultisas Saturday, his mission in 2008 as it pertained to Giffords was the same as Palin's in 2010, just from a different direction. Shouldn't Krugman and others in the media be blaming him for his use of the words "target" and "bulls eye?"
As for Krugman, it is pathetic of him to make the conclusions and insinuations he did given what we now know about Giffords' alleged assailant. All indications are that Jared Lee Loughner is a liberal.
But even if he wasn't, to point such a finger at prominent conservatives and charge GOP leaders to do something about it is preposterous to say the least.
There is absolutely nothing that we currently know about the awful shootings Saturday or the alleged assailant that ties into anything Palin, Limbaugh, Beck, or anyone else said.
On the contrary, this is a disgusting game liberal media members play every time a violent event occurs that could possibly have a political motive. They're all quick to accuse the Limbaughs, the Becks, and Fox News regardless of any factual basis.
As such, it is the Krugmans, Moulitsases, and Jane Fondas of the world that are stoking hatred on a day when Americans should be mourning their lost.
Shame on all of them.
(H/T Right Scoop)
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Not even funny
Submitted by octavioj on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:13pm.
These people trying to stir up the base is pathetic. Why not wait? The guy had some left wing books in his favorites. Can we say he was from "the left"? When did Sarah Palin and Glenn Beck advocate violence? The only ones we hear are the ones on the left advocating armed revolution. And do not tell me the militia. Those guys are not conservative, they are anarchists. It really is infuriating the length these people will go to blame the conservative movement for everything that is wrong in the world just to be egged on the face the conservatives were right.
How about we blame the guy who shot the people?
Submitted by StarAZ on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 4:40pm.
Just an idea.
OMG
Submitted by Emma Grump on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 9:24pm.
In today's politically correct climate, it would be so insensitive to blame the poor misguided murderer. Therefore, we must blame Bush, Limbaugh, Palin, Beck, Boehner, Fox News, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, etc., etc. and then all evil conservatives everywhere. Then blame the Glock, the large capacity clip, global warming, the falling dollar, his mother, his teachers, his professors, the U.S. Army, but we can never blame the deranged leftwing piece of feces that planned this carnage beforehand - that would make us judgemental...because, when all is said and done, MSNBC will have Sgt. Shultz or Keefey Olberdung proclaim this lunatic the real victim.
blogger justifies liberal use of military jargon
Submitted by T Walt on Fri, 01/14/2011 - 3:07pm.
I heard a left wing blogger being interviewed on KABC radio in LA. He justified liberals using military jargon thusly; "You can say to liberals things like 'we need to target so and so' or put a bullseye on a district, because liberals wont interpret that the same as conservatives. We dont take that to mean break out your guns."
What an elitist ass. That's the mentality on the left, a major superiority complex.
If you think about it, liberals have more in common with Laughner than they realize. For starters, a major mental disorder.
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Paul Krugman is already a
Submitted by ThisnThat on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:14pm.
Paul Krugman is already a lunatic, working for a yellow rag whose motto these days is "We print what even communist papers refuse to print". Does Krugman honestly believe this? If so, then he's more despictable than i had ever thought, and I'm on record for registering the utmost disgust at him and everything he stands for. This event is really, really showing the left for what it is -- empty, full of hate, and totally devoid of any shred of decency. Wake up America.
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“Didn't win the Medal of Honor? Didn't even serve? Then lie about it. We'll support you." — 9th Circuit Court
The reactions that we're seeing are a real testimonial...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:31pm.
to the insanity of the unhinged left, and Krugman is emblematic of that...He's a bottom dweller of the first order, and I am not one bit surprised by his bs-laden bloviations about this event. I wish that we could sew this lying troll's mouth shut (and that goes for Moulitsas, Fonda and the rest of the insane lefties, too.)
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
It's almost like they had the
Submitted by winston smith on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 9:09am.
It's almost like they had the "template" written before the story even happened: Any tragedy that makes national news, any major event where lives are lost or people are injured --- all the leftwing pundits immediately come out and blame it on Palin, Beck, Limbaugh (and great gaia, why wasn't Coulter included -- are they slipping or something?). Even at the expense of what little respect these pundits already have, this maniacal obsession with marginalizing their enemies in the national eye by turning a such horrible tragedy into a political circus before most Americans are even aware of the actual facts will produce yet another backlash against the so-called mainstream media. I really do hope this blows up in their faces.
I think back to when The
Submitted by ricklail on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 9:31am.
I think back to when The State newspaper in Columbia, SC has the obit written for Strom Thurmond years before his death. Then they accidentally published while he was till breathing. All the media does it. They have stories ready to go to blame the right because the left is never to blame.
I had a friend who was the editor of the local paper. He told me how a reporter filed 2 stories on a high profile murder trial. One for guilty, one for not guilty. All they had to do was wait on the verdict and run the appropirate story.
Jane Fonda and her ilk are
Submitted by Richard B. on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:14pm.
Jane Fonda and her ilk are disgusting. Jane Fonda betrayed her country during Viet Nam and gave aid and comfort to the enemy, she should have been tried for treason. This will apparently put the last nail in Palin's political future. The left will beat the drum for decades or until Palin is dead.
Hanoi Jane is disgusting
Submitted by ricklail on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 9:34am.
Hanoi Jane is disgusting without her opening her mouth. Everytime I see her my mind goes back to her sitting on that anti-aircraft gun in N. Vietnam.
Way beyond disgusting.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 11:47am.
Fonda is a traitor and a collaborator. Nothing, nothing, nothing she can ever do or say or try to be can ever change that fact.
There is NO forgiving a traitor like this bitch.
Don't forget Keith Olbermann
Submitted by gopcongress on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:14pm.
Keith Olbermann pushed for the immediate neutralization of Sarah Palin's career, including those on the GOP. In his final commentary, he pretty much called for the end of talk radio and the extreme talk of the right.
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Unreal.
Submitted by Ashrak on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:28pm.
I was watching Olberman tonight also and noticed that he made some appologies for his own behaviors and statements - preemptively. He knows that his bomb throwing ways are coming back to haunt him right about now.
His comenentary had me hollering at my TV, no doubt.
Interesting to me was Eugene tripping over himself, over his own words, not wanting to finish the sentence he started.
You cannot legislate morality.
And no matter how he tried to stop, he couldn't.
Go ahead Eugene, look at YOUR OWN columns. YOU look in the mirror as you tell others to do so.
They desperately try to paint the right as guilty - and like other examples the right has nothing to do with this.
Olberman pointed the finger at Beck. Had he actually watched Beck, he would know that Beck has been calling for NO VIOLENCE for a very long time. At Palin, when this shooter isn;t a Palin supporter. Someone at MSNBC has got to put a lid on this nonsense. Seriously.
Maybe Olberman and Robinson will take a look at themselves and their cronies. Maybe. First they have to realize that blaming "everybody" isn't enough. Time to look within, homies.
I saw it too.
Submitted by GregE on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:52pm.
Olbermann covering his own arse as best he can. And based on all he said, I have a question.......
........Why was he inciting more of this type of behavior against Beck, Palin, and others, by blaming them for it? Will his commentary tonight be the blame if some idiot goes after them?
Only if
Submitted by syvyn11 on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 8:08am.
Only if that was Olby's last commentary!
But Keith will keep talking as long as MSNBC pays the bills. Hopefully they won't renew his contract.
My hope is that Comcast shed
Submitted by ricklail on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 9:53am.
My hope is that Comcast shed all of them. You know they can't be making much money because of the size of their audences. I still say that if it wasn't for NFL football and their cable channels like USA they would be going in the red. Other than the Tuesday night football and Sunday night football they did not have a single show in the top 25. This is from the week of 1-2-11
This appears to be
Submitted by ghost of Mary J... on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:17pm.
a coordinated attack by all members of the left. Somthing isn't right here.
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I have that feeling too. Are
Submitted by shannon76 on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:31pm.
I have that feeling too. Are you sensing a little backdoor Journ-O-list action?
Here's what the email probably looked like:
From : Ezra Klein
To: Left-wing media comrades
Subject: 5 STAR ALERT -- THE OPPORTUNITY WE'VE BEEN WAITING TWO YEARS FOR HAS FINALLY ARRIVED!!!
Body: You know what to do guys. Listen, even if this guy's politics are ambiguous and the mind of a mixed up adolescent with a mental defect, we're probably never going to get a chance as golden as this to FINALLY smear the Right. Eugene, Keith, Kruggers, Markos, Schultzy: you guys know what to do. "the readiness is all". Good luck gents, Sincerely -E
→ Right Krugman
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:17pm.
And if Congress would just authorize another $Trillion dollars spending, none of this would've happened.
Because all Krugman knows is theft and spend.
I have been digging through everything I can find Loughner...
Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:24pm.
...related (okay, admitedly in between football plays, during commercials, pouring up another adult beverage, and at half-time), and I have yet to find anything written or stated by Loughner that made any references whatsoever to Palin, Beck, Limbaugh, the TEA Party, or anything else other than communism, nazism, and moonbeam conspiritorial BS - none of which any conservatives I know would go anywhere near.
I'm calling bullsh*t on Krugman along with the rest of his fellow-traveling Ministry of Statist Misinformation robotards.
After all, all they are doing here is what they do best: pushing bullsh*t misinformation.
-Dave
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At what point
Submitted by optimist on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:22pm.
is this considered slander?
I'm not a lawyer, but I'd say we're getting damn close
Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:39pm.
Might have a better chance going the defamation route, though.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
I don't think "slander" exists anymore...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:27pm.
Now, it's just "opinion" or "free speech"...In the world we live in today, it seems that anybody can say virtually anything about anyone, and get away with it...Sick.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
I'd love to see a class action suit
Submitted by optimist on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:57pm.
on behalf of all TEA Partiers against these scumbags. They won't win, but it will keep the story alive long enough to get the truth out.
I think Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Rush and the rest...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:04am.
of those who have been lied about and publicly maligned have a better case...I'd love to see some or all of these folks try to pursue some form of legal action against fools like Krugman...It probably wouldn't go anywhere, but it would at least keep these jerks in court and force them to spend money on lawyers, at least for awhile...Enough is enough.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Whatever it takes
Submitted by optimist on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:09am.
to put an end to this crap. Maybe Mark Levin can get the ball rolling on that one.
BTW, I have a feeling that most Americans are quite disgusted by the behavior of the media today. I can't prove it, but call it a gut feeling. This has backfire written all over it.
Levin's a good idea...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:24am.
If anyone could get this going, it would be him.
As for how American's are reacting to how many in the media are handling this story, I think you could be right...The knee-jerk, unhinged nonsense that the lunatic left is pushing today is beyond the pale, and I think most Americans are repelled by and will reject it and those who are doing it.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
What it will take, Optimist ...
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 11:55am.
... is for all of us to vote early (and vote often if you live in Chicago) and get every one of these people out of Washington, forever. All of them; politicians, commentators, advisors, staff, if they are liberals.
The vote is our biggest weapon. There aren't enough shooters to put a dent in them.
The little beady-eyed weasel Krugman
Submitted by ronber on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:28pm.
The little beady-eyed weasel Krugman has fallen off his rocker again.
OK, the lib talking points are clear: BLAME OTHERS
Submitted by merly1 on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:30pm.
remember: St Paul burned because those evil GOP deserved it!!!!!!
Never mind Obama has escalated the Afghan war and Gitmo is thriving, it's all about the propaganda....
and Krugman is the king of all IDIOTS.
Out of curiosity, how is
Submitted by ThatDude on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:54pm.
Out of curiosity, how is Gitmo still open? Wasn't one of the first actions Obama took as President to sign an executive order mandating that gitmo was closed down within a year? I'm not especially advocating one way or another on whether it should exist, but I'm pretty curious about how the follow-through has played out.
It's Barack Obama's fault
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:30pm.
He is the source of and the main proponent of all of this political dissention and nastiness.
For two years, he's been deriding the opposition to his policies as the enemy, making the most disparaging remarks, from his "bitter clingers" remark to "ride in the back". All the while allowing his minions to throw about charges of racism. Waging bitter class warfare, sowing the seeds of dissention, and watering them with his vile rhetoric.
Complicit in his evil habit of name calling is the media.
I call on Barack Obama, the supposed President of the United States, to cease and desist immediately, and call off his liberal media attack dogs.
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Don't forget Obama's "hostage takers" remark...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:42pm.
You're right...Obama, with his slash and burn political tactics, has been at the forefront of the divisiveness and bitterness that has gone off the charts since he came into office. He, along with Pelosi, Reid and, as you said, the complicit media, all have a measure of responsibility in creating the toxic atmosphere that just about all political discourse in this country takes place in today. Don't expect any changes in tone or calls for a cease and desist from Obama...The silence will be deafening.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Barry Leads The Way
Submitted by miss911ninja on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:07am.
Yes Prairie, he's been totally at the forefront, leading the way by saying that people who opposed his agenda were "THE ENEMY."
I don't think I can remember a president...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:14am.
ever referring to other Americans, regardless of party, as "enemies"...By Obama's definition, I guess then that I qualify as one of the "enemy"...How dare he...That one will stick with me...I will never forget it.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
I don't know why, Prairie,
Submitted by Unsilent_Minority on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 9:58am.
I don't know why, Prairie, but it never occurred to me before your comment that Obama's "enemies", are really me and my family. To have a President that would callously refer to the people of this great country as the enemy of their own country, especially when so many of us care so deeply about this great nation, is appalling. Political enemies shall always exist, but the American people should never feel like enemies of their own government, which is exactly where Obama's led us. Call him what you will, but there is no denying Obama is a traitor.
I have many, many issues with Obama...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:35pm.
and no one would ever consider me a supporter of his (not in a million years), and despite the things that he has done and said as president that I feel have damaged the country, in the strict sense of the word, I don't really consider him a traitor...I respect your opinion and I definitely understand it, and as bad a president as Obama is, I think that he believes, completely erroneously, that what he is doing is in the best interest of the country, and has and will actually help the American people. He is dead wrong on all this of course, but I don't think he is intentionally trying to harm the country...Obama's and his party's ideologies are just 100% wrong, and that is why the Dems were beaten so badly in November, and with any luck at all, the American people will correct the mistake they made in 2008, and will vote Obama out of office in 2012.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
It was an inexcusable remark,
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:31am.
It was an inexcusable remark, but, in fairness, I think you are broadening the context a bit more than warranted. Obama was referring specifically to Latino voters rewarding their friends and punishing their enemies--not to people generally who opposed the adiministration's entire agenda. That said, it was a very imprudent and improper comment, and he backed off of it afterwards agreeing that he should have said "opponents".
Jer
Okay, so, define "their enemies"...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:39am.
Who are the "enemies" of the Latino voters? Americans who call illegal aliens what they are, illegal, and don't want them to continue to pour, unrestrained and unpunished, over OUR border(s)? Well, if that's what the "enemy" is, then I guess I am one of them.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
No one I know--even my Latino
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 2:00am.
No one I know--even my Latino Democratic acquaintances--suuport the unrestrained pouring of illegal aliens across our borders. But there are other issues--such as path to citizenship measures--which they view to be rational steps but which still meet stringent opposition. Those politicians spearheading that opposition were probably the 'opponents/enemies' which Obama had in mind. Rhetoric tends to get hyperbolic during campaigns. I recall GWB coming to Georgia in 2002 and claiming Max Cleland wasn't interested in national security--an outrageous claim--which seemed totally out of character for Bush.
Jer
So, does the opposition to what American Latinos consider...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 2:16am.
"rational steps" considering the amnesty of illegals, mean that those opposed are automatically "enemies" of Latinos? If so, I think that's ridiculous, and it's certainly not a helpful mindset for Latinos, legal or illegal, to have, and definitely will not help further their cause. Just because other Americans don't happen to agree with them on this issue, that does not make them their "enemy".
As for what Obama may or may not have meant when he said this, who knows...I'm taking what he said at face value. Given the outcry following this comment, he could have come back and clarified it, thereby explaining what he really meant, if he was misunderstood...He didn't, so I am assuming that he meant exactly what he said. You are right about heated hyperbole during a campaign...All sides tend to get caught up in it, unfortunately...That said, if Obama was misunderstood in this comment, he should have clarified it.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
PS.....my wife...
Submitted by BEGRUNT on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 2:46am.
is first generation Hispanic.......her mother came here the legal way...i.e; Green Card..etc. When she became a citizen.....and she told me this.....it was "the most exciting day of her life". My wifes Aunt did the same thing......she was a California State Republican Delegate at the 1976...and the 1980 Republican Convention.....for Reagan........Her entire family is very Conservative.
I really think the Democrats are hoping these new "immigrants" when legalized, will lock step and vote for them......I beg to differ. Most traditional Hispanic families are very conservative. Yes, if legalized, the new crop MAY vote Democratic.........first and second generation may not. It's a craps shot......At least that is my 2 cents, given what I have seen, and experienced..
"A nation can suffer it's fool's, but cannot survive the traitor"
Cicero
BEG...I'm inclined to agree with you...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 3:00am.
I also believe that many hispanic Americans who are either native born Americans or who have been naturalized, especially those who are middle-aged and older, do tend to lean more to the right than those who are newer to the country and who are younger. And you are exactly right, I think, that the reason why the Dems are so eager to overlook and generally ignore the illegal alien issue, is because they are counting on all these potential new Americans to vote Dem, and they likely will and may be already.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Jer
Submitted by well99 on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:02am.
It isnt about being Latino,Irish,Dutch or whatever.It is about coming here legally just like legal immigrants.You dont get cuts in line because you broke the law.People who take the legal route have to jump thru hoops and wait their turn.They dont burden the American people by stealing their SS numbers.Dont tell me they are all working jobs Americans wont do.That is the biggest lie I have heard before Obama's so called most transparent administration.Just a note:So I oppose alot of liberal policies does that make them my enemy?Should I get in their face?
Jer, you are a clown.
Submitted by Unsilent_Minority on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 10:06am.
If you HONESTLY believe that Obama was only referring to those voters who oppose illegal immigration and wish the government would simply enforce the rules already on the books, you are naive and a fool. WE, THE PEOPLE, are his enemy. Those who oppose his radical, statist agenda, are the enemy. Those who refuse to deify an utter incompetent. Those who see through his supposed 'superior intellect' for what he is: a moron who is in way over his head. Wake up, Jer.
It's a pleasure to meet you,
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:50pm.
It's a pleasure to meet you, Unsilent__Minority. No, I'm not particularly bothered by the ungraciousness of your salutation. Your simple-minded buffoonery seems rather harmless.
See you around.
Jer
And lets not forget
Submitted by GregE on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:18am.
Obama's remark about getting "in their faces."
Yes, that's promotion of civility isn't it.
Mofo
Submitted by miss911ninja on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 2:11am.
Another oldie but goodie! Does that one go back to the campaign, or was it just after the mofo was elected? Either way, it shows that he's been uncivil consistently since he first graced us with his presence.
That was during the campaign
Submitted by GregE on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 11:16am.
He was giving marching orders to his sheeple that when people tell them things that are false (as perceived by him and his sheeple) they should "get in their face."
His Street Was Showing
Submitted by miss911ninja on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 1:00pm.
You can take the boy out of the street but you can't take the street out of the boy.
→ What he really meant
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:41pm.
What Obama really meant was that he wanted SEIU members to beat up Black T-Shirt vendors and that Liberals should bite off the fingers of Tea Partiers.
Yeah, we know what Obama meant by "In their faces"
Great Examples, Cool!
Submitted by miss911ninja on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 10:24pm.
Great examples, Cool! A couple more blasts from the past. There are so many, it's hard to remember them all!
Excellent
Submitted by grammajane on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 1:27am.
Your comments are right on the mark.........excellent post!! Imagine all the radical libs are in a huddle tonight, with Schultz as the quarterback, making sure they all make the same accusations against Conservatives
"...the [supposed] President of the United States..."
Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:40pm.
J,
Love that. :-)
LOL - Mind if I borrow it?
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Borrow away, Dave
Submitted by Blonde on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:00am.
I was being somewhat sarcastic about laying the blame at our "supposed" President's feet.
Seriously, though, for these idiots like Krugman, Fonda, et. al. to immediately point at Palin, et. al. is just plain nuts.
The hypocricy is stunning, as I tried to point out in my post.
The fault lies inside the twisted mind of this Jared Loughton person. Perhaps his parents and teachers. Beyond that, we don't have the facts.
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
You weren't that off target, blonde, sarcasm or not.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:00pm.
Remember, The One promised to "fundamentally transform this nation' during his campaign.
Well, congratulations America! We now are officially transforming into a Banana Republic!
"Never let a crisis go to waste" They sure aren't wasting old Jared.
Cold Civil War
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:36pm.
How is this country ever going to be governable when there are people, like Krugman, who make even an atrocity into something partisanly political? All bridges have now been burned, we have nothing in common, and as I have observed in the past, we, for all practical purposes, have a Cold Civil War on our hands. A war that shows every sign of being a permanent feature of our lives..
Cold Civil War
Submitted by miss911ninja on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 2:19am.
That's brilliant! That's exactly what it is. But I do think that Beck and company need to fire a shot over the bow. I don't think a law suit is out of the question, because O'Reilly was talking about it seriously a few months ago when he'd been the target of one of these ugly, unwarranted attacks.
Have they no shame?
Submitted by rdfowler on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:36pm.
Unbelievable that the Left and the establishment media would use this horrible tragedy to further their political agenda. Have they no shame? They should apologize to the victims, their families, and all the Conservatives they are trying to smear.
"Shame" is not a word that exists...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:45pm.
in the unhinged left's vocabulary.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
It Will Never Happen
Submitted by miss911ninja on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:17am.
They don't think they're doing anything wrong! I guess Krugman has never heard Beck literally PLEAD with his audience to refrain from violence of any kind. He said it so many times I lost count.
And right on cue, the lefty
Submitted by celator on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:41pm.
And right on cue, the lefty commentators seize the latest human tragedy and exploit it for what they imagine as their political advantage. Facts don't matter. Reality does't matter. The case still being under investigation doesn't matter. It's always those awful Republicans, conservatives and, now,Tea Party participants who caused the tragedy.
These people truly have no shame.
You could set your watch by it...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:48pm.
they are so predictable...As for "shame", they don't have any..It just ain't there.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Hmm, I thought Krugman only had arthritis of the brain
Submitted by Dave. on Sat, 01/08/2011 - 11:51pm.
LOL - I didn't realize it had spread to his hands. :-O
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
It comes from him writing
Submitted by Chris Norman on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:16am.
It comes from him writing such crooked analysis - like this crap.
Chris,
Submitted by Dave. on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 1:23am.
LOL - It must be the Chinese keyboard he uses. :-)
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
The Wellstone funeral all over again
Submitted by Texndoc on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:00am.
The left really should stop and stand back. The American public isn't stupid and saw through the glee at the Wellstone funeral (man do we have this seat in the bag NOW) and see this for what it is.
→ Bad taste
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:04am.
Favorite part of the Wellstone Memorial was Bill Clinton hugging Walter Mondale whispering :That daughter of yours is one hot little tart!"
If you're against Obama you're a racist. And....
Submitted by krendler on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:01am.
If a politician is shot or threatened, the opposing party is to blame. Got that everybody?
The left in the USA is officially unglued. There for amusement purposes only for moderate liberals, those in the center, or those right of center.
BTW, why not go ahead and blame Bush and Derek Jeter
Submitted by krendler on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:05am.
...while they're at it. Every bit as convincing as say "It's Palin's fault."
→ Or John Rocker!
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:09am.
It's John Rocker's fault.
I'm sure it's already been said...
Submitted by bkeyser on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:10am.
but this is the most despicable form of pandering there is. Liberals are seizing upon a tragedy -the mass murder and attempted murder of a large group of people, including a child- to attack a political opponent. This is the stuff of Pol Pot.
Regardless of this guys political leanings -which appear to be anarchist or liberal by his own words and choice of favorite videos and writings- it is beyond anything resembling reasonable, adult behavior to view such an event without emotion or remorse and instead revel in some perceived political advantage.
Disgusting. Anyone taking part in such attacks loses all credibility as a public figure looked upon to provide analytical political coverage. Krugman should be fired.
They know they have nothing else.
Submitted by GregE on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:15am.
Liberals know, so well, that they cannot win against conservatism when it comes to ideas and rule of law and Constitution. Their knowledge of it is so apparent, and magnifies in times like these, when the moment the Congresswoman is shot, they're already looking for the political angle they can get out there as fast as possible. Facts don't matter. They run with their vitriol before any facts are gathered one way or the other, proving that facts don't matter. They know that getting vitriol out there quickly, that's what people hear first, and that's what people start to repeat to their friends. Even if later its found to be completely false, it doesn't matter, they've squirt the toothpaste out of the tube. That's the plan from the word go. They're far too predictable.
6 people are dead. A sitting Congresswoman is clinging to life, her life changed forever, by a lunatic. Families are mourning their dead, praying that those in the hospital will come out and begin to heal................and the liberal media gives not one rats a** about it. Their big concern is to make sure they get anything out to their viewers that will create a perception of "conservatives bad." Facts be damned. This election shellacked them and they view this shooting as their saviour. They went to press before there were any facts because they don't care. They don't care about the Congresswoman, they don't care about the dead, they don't care about the families, they don't care about the nation. They simply do...........NOT...........CARE about any of that. They care about ONE thing - pushing their Leftist, orgasmic collectivism, and will say anything to further it's cause. "NEVER let a crisis go to waste" is the mantra, and today, early and often, they've stuck to that as tightly as they ever have.
Well said!!!!!
Submitted by BEGRUNT on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:34am.
You are spot on!!!
"A nation can suffer it's fool's, but cannot survive the traitor"
Cicero
Journalistic Reprobates!!
Submitted by jrandall on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:12am.
What a sad day for the victims of this mindless act. Its is a good thing to offer prayers for the victims and theyre families.
It is even sadder to listen to these journalists spew their hatred. They have no filter, no barriers, no ethics, no morals that hinder what they deep down want to report, and what they actually report. You listen to them, and wonder..."where did this come from?" They collectively, have no concience. The fact of the matter is....this is what is deep inside of them, They are as obsessed, as can be with the objects of their hatred, as any shooter, terrorist, or any other reprobate nut job that is out and about on our streets. Sadly, no TV ratings, loss of network, or newpaper revenues, reputation, or any other thing can cure what they have.
How quickly did they blame Islamists for Major Haasan?
Submitted by GregE on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:18am.
eh?
Crickets chirping
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:21am.
Still no word.
Yeah Greg- I mentioned that
Submitted by bkeyser on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:28am.
Yeah Greg- I mentioned that earlier. A Muslim goes on a shooting spree on Fort Hood and not only does the MSM not want to mention his obviously Arab name, but when they finally do, they immedately go on a "don't blame all Muslim's" narrative. In this case, however, they quickly get out the word that the guy was white and then shortly thereafter release his name. Based upon that, and one of the victims was a democrat, the MSM party line is that this is SP's and the Tea Party's fault. And then, they plug their ears like a 5 year old little girl blurting "nah nah nah nah, I can't hear you, nah nah nah nah" about al the subsequent evidence to the contrary.
Utterly and thoroughly disgusting.
They have nothing else.
Submitted by GregE on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:46am.
Absolutely nothing else. The live for stuff like this they can twist all over the place to try and fool the sheeple.
Oh. My. God.I.Am.Shocked.
Submitted by ProudAmerican58 on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:25am.
The.Left.Has.Accused.The.Right.Of.Provocking.Violence. <sarc off>
Best Comment I've read on the subject
Submitted by ArcherB on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:37am.
It came from SlashDot:
"The shooter was Jared Loughner [msn.com] and if you watch his Youtube [youtube.com] channel you'll see his simply a mentally disturbed individual who ascribes to nothing even remotely resembling Republican or Tea party beliefs. He has an entire video where he burns an American flag for God's sake, and another were he venomously declares he refuses to believe in God and that the Government is trying to mind control everyone with "grammar control". I haven't been to any Tea Party meetings but I have the feeling Flag burning and denying the existence of God prolly aint listed on their usually scheduled agenda."
"To send men to the firing squad, judicial proof is unnecessary."
--Ernesto "Che" Guevara
Wasn't Obama supposed to
Submitted by TN Mom on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:44am.
Wasn't Obama supposed to unite us all? Epic failure; Krugman must be disapointed.
Can't wait.....
Submitted by GregE on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:47am.
........to hear Michael Savage get hold of them Monday. :-)
You want to know what the
Submitted by Vic138 on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:56am.
You want to know what the oligarchs want us to think, listen to krugman.
Bill Clinton and Janet Reno
Submitted by Satchmo on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 1:04am.
Bill Clinton and Janet Reno are directly to blame for the OKC bombing.→ Indirectly
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 1:19am.
Timothy McVeigh is directly to blame. All Reno and Clinton did was p*ss him off.
I just don't see...
Submitted by paragrouper on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 1:22am.
How the MSM bridged the gap between Palin, et al...and Jared Loughner.
I viewed some of his video postings http://www.blip.tv/file/4608218
and I just don't see him as anything more than a sick young man.
Agreed Paragrouper...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 1:26am.
My reaction as well.
Jer
That's because you are using rational, reasonable...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 1:39am.
logical thinking...The MSM does not. It's all about a rabid, unhinged hatred of Sarah Palin and Co. with them.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Obama, June 13, 2008.
Submitted by Dave. on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 1:36am.
“If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.”
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
An act of cowardly terrorism
Submitted by alwayscon on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 1:51am.
I find it disgusting that while McCain and Beonner label today's tragedy as "evil" and "acts against humanity", Hussein Obama is quick to not to label this an act terrorism.
Clearly, today's violence is a result of terrorism, political terrorism, stirred up by the radical left and the Daily Kos. The fact that they try and point at Palin and Beck now is their poor attempt at covering such terrorism. At least OUR side uses the adjectives associated with terror, (evil, acts against free society, etc.), rather than cowardly skirt around it.
Lower than low...
Submitted by AgentAmerican on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 1:52am.
I always knew that the likes of Paul Krugman, Markos Moulistas, Jane Fonda, and other left-wing luminaries contained the capacity to be as vile and insensitive even in a time of great tragedy.
Soon after the shooting, they simply confirmed how low they could reach with their venom. They used an evil incident to goad the tea party and conservative voices into a fight.
This also goes to the ones who frequent Yahoo comments with their stupidity.
We should be in mourning and reflecting on what happened instead of scoring political points.
Bastards!
By accusing right wing
Submitted by Slyrr on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 2:31am.
By accusing right wing politicians and media figures of committing this crime it is the Democrats, liberals and leftists (whether they be in politics, media or schools) who are inciting violence.
They are all but saying flat out to their rabid followers - 'Get some guns people, it's time to kill conservatives before they kill us!'
Typical cowards. They stoke up their followers to hate, then have the nerve to act surprised when those followers obey their calls to do violence.
Again I ask - who is it who is knocking down black conservatives and stealing their property? Who is it who is attacking Tea Party attendees and biting off their fingers? Who is it who is ordering his followers to 'argue and get in their faces'? Who is it ordering his followers to 'bring a gun to a knife fight'? Who is it saying 'we have our boot on their necks'? Who is it saying the 'constitution doesn't matter', and 'there ain't no rules we make it up'?
You reap what you sow, libs. Now that the monsters you created are coming back and biting you, you want to pretend you had nothing to do with it.
They do realize who the
Submitted by Thoreau on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 2:36am.
They do realize who the shooter is, yes. The shooter being a leftist with asperger's seems to be too confusing for them. What am I missing here?
Where do you get that the shooter...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 2:40am.
has Asperger's? I haven't heard that anywhere, and even if true, is irrelevant to the fact that he did this and why.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
There can never EVER be
Submitted by Van Halen on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 2:35am.
There can never EVER be dialogue or working together with the Left again. Not after this horror they've pushed on us.
Exactly
Submitted by optimist on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 3:08am.
And we're supposed to compromise with these a-holes?
This makes no sense
Submitted by mostlymoderate on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 3:06am.
This makes no sense whatsoever! How can Krugman blame anyone for this atrocity except for the degenerate-scumbag-lowlife-cretin that pulled the trigger? This kid of 22 years old had some major problems and for some reason, nobody was able to help him before he snapped. If anyone is to blame it is anyone who saw signs of his lunacy and didn't report him.
Too bad the public school system is to busy trying to learn spanish to keep up with the illegal alien infestation in Arizona rather than weeding out bad kids like this before they hurt someone.
See how easy it is to blame?? We could do this all day.
What the hell is wrong with
Submitted by humanzee on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 3:29am.
What the hell is wrong with these people.
The shooter was a liberal. This a liberal on liberal crime. He's cut from the same cloth as those grungy anarchists that throw fire bombs at cops during World Bank meetings.
He's a far left ... "I want the whole world to burn and everyone to lose their personal property so everyone is equal" anarchist.
Haven't all these liberals read his youtube page? He's a left wing whacko. He may be an ecoterrorist too.
These people don't listen to
Submitted by mostlymoderate on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 3:55am.
These people don't listen to reason. They are the same people that blamed G.W. Bush on 9-11. They are the same people that blame Israel for crimes that Palestinians commit. They are the same people that believe BUSH caused the economy to crater, that BUSH caused oil prices to rise (yeah, they really dropped with Obama, eh)
They simply hate Republican's and conservatives. Pure and simple. They hate America, it's Constitution, etc. etc.
Nobody is saying the simplest truth: If somebody would have been carrying a .45 that morning they could have popped this little twit before he killed anyone. Bad people are always going to have guns, maybe the rest of us need to start carrying ours.
Take some responsibility for your hate-speech!
Submitted by truthspeaker on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:09pm.
Look you people are deluded. The right part of the aisle has become increasingly unhinged and full of venom for their fellow Americans as well as for the Government and all aspects of society. Ronald Reagan is rolling in his grave if he can see the kind of vicious political environment he left as his legacy. The fact is that Palin issued a virtual fatwa on all Democrats including Gifford who voted for the health care package in Republican districts. Fact. Now that alone would not be enough to condemn the right and their traitorous hate speech for this tragedy, but when you add in Glenn Beck and his delusional paranoid screeds on a nightly basis and Sharon Angle talking about "Second Amendment Solutions" (and not as Palin might reasonably claim as a metaphor but literally a call to arms against Harry Reid) and we have witness how these ideas have spread like some kind of noxious weed, you need to OWN THIS!
Don't try to weasel out of this. Don't try to compare Rachel Maddow and Keith Olberman or Michael Moore or ANYBODY on the left with the type of orchestration of hatred and division from the right that has resulted in this tragedy. No we on the left and we who are independents WILL NOT be silenced on this matter. No we WON'T pretend it is not caused by hate speech!
There are sensible conservatives, like Elizabeth Hasselbeck, who UNDERSTAND the danger of this violent imagery and hate speech on the minds of unhinged and deranged individuals, of which there are, unfortunately, waytoo many in this country. Why did she condemn Sarah Palin for her crosshair poster? She understood the danger of this kind of imagery in a political context.
You can deny it all you like. I know you will. But you are part of the problem unless you join with the rest of of your fellow Americans and CONDEMN the lies, the fearmongering, the violent imagery, the crazy birther conspiracy bullsh*t, etc. Otherwise you are aiding and abetting the enemy.
It stops NOW!
Thanks for the introduction
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:12pm.
But when does Truthspeaker arrive, and who are you?
Excuse me, Truthspeaker
Submitted by 26CX on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:17pm.
Are you taking all your meds?
You've been here nearly 3
Submitted by Free Stinker on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:28pm.
You've been here nearly 3 years and this is your first posting ever?
Sounds like a new sock puppet account has been activated.
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
Tumbler?
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:32pm.
One can only hope.
You must be lost...This isn't DU, Kos, or...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:43pm.
HuffPo...Wander on over there with your unhinged machinations...No one here is interested.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Take some responsibility for your hate-speech!
Submitted by truthspeaker on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:08pm.
Look you people are deluded. The right part of the aisle has become increasingly unhinged and full of venom for their fellow Americans as well as for the Government and all aspects of society. Ronald Reagan is rolling in his grave if he can see the kind of vicious political environment he left as his legacy. The fact is that Palin issued a virtual fatwa on all Democrats including Gifford who voted for the health care package in Republican districts. Fact. Now that alone would not be enough to condemn the right and their traitorous hate speech for this tragedy, but when you add in Glenn Beck and his delusional paranoid screeds on a nightly basis and Sharon Angle talking about "Second Amendment Solutions" (and not as Palin might reasonably claim as a metaphor but literally a call to arms against Harry Reid) and we have witness how these ideas have spread like some kind of noxious weed, you need to OWN THIS!
Don't try to weasel out of this. Don't try to compare Rachel Maddow and Keith Olberman or Michael Moore or ANYBODY on the left with the type of orchestration of hatred and division from the right that has resulted in this tragedy. No we on the left and we who are independents WILL NOT be silenced on this matter. No we WON'T pretend it is not caused by hate speech!
There are sensible conservatives, like Elizabeth Hasselbeck, who UNDERSTAND the danger of this violent imagery and hate speech on the minds of unhinged and deranged individuals, of which there are, unfortunately, waytoo many in this country. Why did she condemn Sarah Palin for her crosshair poster? She understood the danger of this kind of imagery in a political context.
You can deny it all you like. I know you will. But you are part of the problem unless you join with the rest of of your fellow Americans and CONDEMN the lies, the fearmongering, the violent imagery, the crazy birther conspiracy bullsh*t, etc. Otherwise you are aiding and abetting the enemy.
It stops NOW!
Doublespeaker
Submitted by Cool Arrow on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:13pm.
Could you repeat that?
OK drive by troll..............
Submitted by BEGRUNT on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:38pm.
Just for you knucklehead.......
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/06/14/obama-if-they-bring-a-knife-to-...
and this little gem from Kos.........
http://twitpic.com/3o7s5c
Just a sample of the "rational left". And btw, you can stop with your blowhard self rightousness....HYPOCRITE!!!
H/T: Motherbelt, Txradioguy
"A nation can suffer it's fool's, but cannot survive the traitor"
Cicero
BEG...Drive-by troll is right...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:53pm.
Almost an hour and no further posts? Hmmm....Maybe he ran home to his mommy.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
Go blow yourself, troll
Submitted by Dave. on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:54pm.
If you can.
And I am sure you and your fellow red-diaper wearing Marxists would love nothing more than for us to shut the Hell up and just go away and allow the communist left to rip out every last vestige of freedom and liberty that still exists in this country.
Sorry, but that just ain't gonna happen, comrade.
Learn it, know it, smoke it, eat it, drink it, and live it.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Violent imagery?
Submitted by Radical1979 on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:49pm.
You mean of New Black Panthers menacing people in front of a poling station? Or a New Black Panther calling on the murder of white people and their "cracka babies"? The image of an SEIU member biting off the finger of an opponent to Obamacare? If the left would stop being violent there would be less violent imagery.
Where was all this hate speech at Glen Beck's rally?
Go back under the bridge.
Or hundreds of SEIU thugs
Submitted by Free Stinker on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:53pm.
Or hundreds of SEIU thugs protesting on a bank executives' front lawn . . .
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
With his 12-year-old home alone and......
Submitted by miss911ninja on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 1:56am.
.....hiding in the bathroom he was so scared, according to reports.
Also for the
Submitted by Beukeboom on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 11:06am.
Also for the sock-puppet:
http://michellemalkin.com/2011/01/10/the-progressive-climate-of-hate-an-illustrated-primer-2000-2010/
Yeah, I read it. Every word.
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 3:58am.
Yeah, I read it. Every word. How about you? He seemed pretty difficult to pigeonhole ideologically. For example, he exhibited extreme antipathy toward the current government--which doesn't exactly come across as roaring liberalism, for a couple of obvious reasons. Mostly, he appeared to be profoundly disturbed, sociopathic and irrational. If he was making a political statement, it remains remarkably incoherent and inscrutable at this point.
Jer
Pretty much, Jer. The youtube
Submitted by ThatDude on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:19pm.
Pretty much, Jer. The youtube videos show him to be a very confused and disturbed individual. His points were completely incoherent and lacked sense. I don't like how so many on this site are trumpeting the fact that he has Mein Kamph and the Communist Manifesto listed among his favorite books. He also happens to have Farhenheit 451 and Animal Farm in that same list which I wouldn't typically think were left wing in nature. However, they don't exactly balance things out like it would if he had 1984 on that list...
I agree with Jer <that thud
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:30pm.
I agree with Jer <that thud you hear is Jer hitting the floor>....I don't think you can categorize this guy politically. He just seems weird and disturbed.
I'm not a psychiatrist, don't play one on TV but my guess from the shallow end of psychiatric knowledge would be schizophrenia.
Ditto...Whatever else may be going on with this kid...
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:57pm.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that he is schizophrenic. I too am also not a doctor, but I minored in psychology in college, and he seems to have exhibited a number of the hallmarks of a schizophrenic. Did politics, from the left, the right or both, factor into his actions? It appears that to some extent the answer may be yes, but I think the main thing at work with this kid is that he's dangerously unbalanced. I don't think he's insane, because of the planning of his attack and the fact that he seems to have a history of some kind of contacting Rep. Giffords office, and of having "issues" with her and her positions. Time will tell of course, but whatever happens to this loon, he will never walk free again.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
I believe it is wise to wait
Submitted by Beukeboom on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 11:09am.
I believe it is wise to wait until substantiated information comes out (and is properly fact-checked) concerning the shooter. Rampant speculation does no good.
Avoidance of Personal
Submitted by DoktorFranken on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 4:11am.
Avoidance of Personal Responsibility
That should be a Leftist Handbook - in 10 volumes. There are so many ways to attack, redirect, and obfuscate the facts that the Left has made it their life's work.
And they never rest.
One such "leftist handbook"
Submitted by Beukeboom on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 11:08am.
One such "leftist handbook" was authored by Saul Alinsky.
Isn't it odd?
Submitted by okiehawk44 on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 4:28am.
As soon as the first reports that a Democrat congresswoman from Arizona had been shot I knew in my gut that Republicans, Tea Party activists, Rush Limbaugh and others would be tagged as the ones who either pulled the trigger or were the cause of the trigger being pulled.
Why is it that this is so predictable these days that a regular guy like me knows exactly what the media will start spinning the moment it can que up the tape?
Sorry media, it appears that this killing spree was the work of an unbalanced 22-year old man whose primary ideology seems to have been centered on "grammar." That's it.
Krugman, Olbermann, et al
Submitted by sarge329 on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 4:31am.
Palin's fault, Beck's fault, Limbaugh's fault. How short their memory is. Don't you people know ANYTHING? It's Bush's fault. That's been their whole panacea. Everything that's wrong with our country, regardless of its root cause, has been laid at the feet of George W. Bush. He's the one to blame. How ridiculous can it get? When FMR Gov. Palin came up with a " target list " of oppo-nents, it was a list of people to be unseated. She was saying, " Here's a list of people that we'd like to see get fired " , essentially to lose their jobs. To say that a political commentator is res-ponsible for someone's death is beyond slander or libel. It is insanity at its worst and most basic. This harkens back to the " comedians " who wish Rush dead. I seem to recall a comment someone made in reference to the entirely forgettable " Live and Let Die " . It dealt with the scene where Roger Moore shoved a gas pellet into Yaphet Kotto's mouth, and Kotto exploded. I believe that it was Chris Matthews who said ( correct me if I'm wrong ) , " I 'd like to see this happen to Rush " . As I see it, that's Matthews wishing to see Rush die. How sick is that? That's twisted, even by liberal standards. I would call on the White House to denounce statements like this, made by anyone, regardless of affiliation. But, I'm realistic enough to know that they won't. They've become so full of hate for anyone who doesn't toe the party line. It' s almost as though they're the " bitter clingers " , clinging to the last shreds of hatred for the Right. But then,.. that's just me.
IMHO, I believe what Krugman
Submitted by Beukeboom on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 11:12am.
IMHO, I believe what Krugman and Olbermann have done (their irresponsible comments, et al) with this is reason enough to remove them from their positions.
The little people jump on a
Submitted by Andrew H. on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 5:41am.
The little people jump on a tragedy like this to attack their political opposition... how very sad and base. The fact the shooter was a leftist with a screw loose should come as no surprise and will not be revealed by these narrow little people. Nor will most all of them ever admit they were wrong.
Little Paul is wrong yet again.
The so-called mainstream media is the propaganda arm of the criminal DNC.
This is one teeny, tiny,
Submitted by Barack_must_go..... on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:28am.
This is one teeny, tiny, desperate, evil little man who continues to shrink more and more with each passing day.
Speaking of little men. Lets see how long, if ever, it takes for the Ass Clown to come out from cowering under his desk to denounce this dangerous, disingenuous, politically motivated rhetoric coming from his sycophant groupies.
Barack_Must_Go.....
KOS made that Twitter statement after...
Submitted by txradioguy on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 6:40am.
He scrubbed a diary entry from one of his members by the name of "boyblue" who declared in a post on Kos that:
"Gabrielle Giffords is DEAD To Me"
Too bad for him some of us were faster on the screen capture than Kos was on the flush button.
http://twitpic.com/3o7s5c
Krugman is supposed to be a
Submitted by Cowboy on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:47am.
Krugman is supposed to be a smart guy, who is an economic adviser to the the administration and Democrat leaders. And this is an example of the guy's thinking, logic and assumptions. As for Kos... well, he remains Kos. Things like this make him somebody. With honesty, he would just blend into the far left side of the crowd/These people..
Submitted by Patriot II on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 8:52am.
Are nuts!! What is it with these simple minded dumbass liberal dumocrats anyway.....they are completely insane...what an idiotic, childish, ridiculous thing to say!!!
Simply Following the Scrip of their Masters
Submitted by scottyusmc on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 10:07am.
Krugman and the rest are simple minded script readers of the left. This is so expected that nobody was surprised when it started coming out.
Krugman urinates on his
Submitted by PeskyDane on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 10:32am.
Krugman urinates on his once-respectable Nobel Prize. It must be Saturday.
I wouldn't say this is a
Submitted by eaglewingz08 on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 10:42am.
I wouldn't say this is a liberal on liberal crime. Giffords seems to be close to a centrist, a republican who turned democrap, and earned the ire of DailyKos and MoveOn, sufficiently to have a target painted on her by them. She might even be to the right of John McCain (well there aren't many in the repub party who aren't, but still for a democrat that's still significant). So this would be a libnut on centrist democrat crime. There is also not a shred of evidence that this terrorist ever attended a tea party, listened to Fox, conservative talk radio, voted for McCain/Palin, O'Reilly, Beck, Limbaugh or others. Imagine if we found (as more likely) that he watched CNN, Schultze, Air America, read the NYSlimes, MSNBC, Chrissy Matthews, etc, and then conservatives claimed that because of all of that leftwing propaganda, liberalism and/or these talkshows, newspapers were to blame for those crimes? The libmedia would go beserk. But when the shoe is on the other foot (or being flung by the same liberals) they slander and libel conservatives and their radio/news personalities without shame or restraint.
wonder.
Submitted by blablablather on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 10:52am.
Wonder if Sarah has any regrets about bringing the term "crosshairs" into political dialogue.
Shut up, Zippers
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 11:00am.
.
No More than Obama
Submitted by JustAl on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 11:21am.
Specifically telling supporters to "bring a gun." After all, according to his class mate Caitie Parker, the shooter was "left wing,""quiet liberal".
He is reported to have campaigned for her before he shot her, also it is reported that his myspace page listed Obama and Che as admired figures (no mention of Palin) before it was hidden.
President Obama's example
Submitted by motherbelt on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:36pm.
President Obama brought "The Chicago Way" (They bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun) into political dialogue.
Did you expected anything less?
Submitted by sam12663 on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 11:09am.
I knew seconds after hearing of this attack that those 'well informed' liberal voices would use this in an ideological manner. If nothing else, liberals are predictable, and using this tragedy as an excuse to rail against the opposition is both expected and pathetic.
AS for your questiion, blablalblather; why should she regret it? As the story clearly states, it was the Daily Kos that put the crosshairs on this congresswoman long before Sarah Palin did.
The liberal obscession in creating blame for everything on the opposition is ridiculous and pathetic.
reality check
Submitted by blablablather on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 11:25am.
ask anyone on the street who brought up "crosshairs" (for that matter ask them if they know what KOS is). Maybe not with us on this site, but to the rest of America this could be a political liability, no?
Let me think about that for a
Submitted by PeskyDane on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 11:56am.
Let me think about that for a minute... OK, no.
What do you mean, "us", Zippers?
Submitted by SickofLibs on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 11:59am.
.
wtf really?
Submitted by BackWaterTech on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:30pm.
so we are going to blame violence that a lone gunman does on the right now? really? So i guess that means the kid that shot up millard highschool's administration last week in Omaha had something to do with the tea party, too?
Come on! damn, the lefties are running out of ideas. . . and they tell us they are educated?
the more of this crap comes up, the more likely i am to vote for a Woman in the next presidential election.
Rahh Go Palin!
Paul Krugman is dumber than a
Submitted by Free Stinker on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 12:35pm.
Paul Krugman is dumber than a box full of Joe Bidens and Meghan McCains./// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
How?
Submitted by okiehawk44 on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 1:58pm.
How did the media so quickly come to blame the Tea Party activists whose primary concern is the spending of people's money on every stupid project anyone could ever think up for this mentally ill 22-year old's killing spree? Stop Spending and Protect Our Borders are the primary Tea Party issues and this mentally ill man seems to want to start his own currency, solve the pressing issue of numbering years and make grammar more a part of our national discourse. Can't for the life of me see the connection but leftists don't seem to need any.
I sincerely hope that this
Submitted by Beukeboom on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 2:23pm.
I sincerely hope that this series of disgusting, irrational and unhinged "guilt by association" spins by the liberal MSM and politicians comes back to bite 'em in the butt someday.
I can't stand Krugman and he gives me a new reason...
Submitted by jawebster1 on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 4:04pm.
to not being able to stand him every time he opens his stupid mouth.
Another liberal media suck up
Submitted by Chappie on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 4:27pm.
Yep, Palin's responsible for the tragety in Arizona just like I'm responsible for the Spanish-American War. This moron produces drama and fails to report facts.
Fonda Blaming Palin
Submitted by liljune on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 4:31pm.
Wonder if Krugman and Jane Fonda can explain this 2004 Democratic Strategic Map?
http://american-conservativevalues.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/BP_0405_heartland1.gif
Passing the blame...AGAIN!!
Submitted by RiverRat66 on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 4:42pm.
I was just introduced to this website so while I'm down here at the bottom of submissions, I wanna add my dos centavos's worth!
First of all never heard of this Krugman fellow, but I received another post that Hanoi Jane said something along the same lines...almost verbatim! So why are these folks (including Mr. Olderman) getting so much press?
I enjoyed Keith when he was in his element at ESPN...dunno why he quit his real job.
It was amazing how the rumors started flying about regarding this shooter; "Tea Party member, NRA member, Afghan veteran", but NO ONE EVEN SUGGESTED that he might have been a Mexican cartel member...and that is what Southern Arizona's major threat seems to be at this time! Has that possibility been eliminated? Is Ms. Napolitano going to event look at the possibility.
Here's wishing Congresswoman Giffords and her fellow surviving victims as speedy and full recovery.
Folks, just remember the new
Submitted by DaveInNM on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 5:30pm.
Folks, just remember the new mantra of the far left...
"You NEVER LET A SERIOUS CRISIS GO TO WASTE. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." - Rahm Emanuel (emphasis mine)
The agenda is to shut down any opposing viewpoints. Rep. Giffords wasn't a darling of the left until she was the victim of an assassination attempt. They tried to get her out of office because she was a moderate "blue dog", pro-2nd Amendment, for strong border controls, etc.
It's only now that she's a left wing darling because this tragedy can be USED to further their vilification of the right and try to push teir agenda on the country.
Hide your head in the sand if you want
Submitted by paussend on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:25pm.
Listen, you may be uncomfortable that all the hate speech on the right has come to a predictable outcome, but trying to shift the blame is the pathetic part here. Krugman is right, as is the Puma County Sheriff. Palin and others (Angle, Beck, Hannity) have made it acceptable to use violent rhetoric for political purpose and now try to hide from its result. Giffords called out Palin when she put a target on her and now Palin is running from it pulling down the website and claiming that these weren't bullseyes after the fact even though she tweeted that exactly. Homeland Security reported 2 years ago that domestic terrorism on the right is growing and the leaders of the GOP and its echo chamber at Fox and this website don't help.
And a brand new (?) troll
Submitted by Free Stinker on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:49pm.
And a brand new (?) troll speaks up. Back to your bridge!
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
Ah geeezzz.....another one!!??
Submitted by BEGRUNT on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:55pm.
Another pontificating, self rightous blowhard....HYPOCRITE TROLL!!!
"A nation can suffer it's fool's, but cannot survive the traitor"
Cicero
You notice how they come out
Submitted by Free Stinker on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:57pm.
You notice how they come out of the woodwork whenever Obama is in trouble ?
/// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
Do you trolls travel in pairs?
Submitted by PrairieSky on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 8:01pm.
There's another one like you here today, so I'll tell you what I told him (or her)...You must be lost...Wander on over to DU, Kos, or HuffPo with your unhinged machinations...No one here is interested...
And by the way, have you taken a gander at the lovely, warm and fuzzy prose that is constantly posted at the above mentioned sites? If not, go read some of that trash and then come back here and try to tell us all again how hate-filled and vitriolic the commentary from the right is....Good luck with that.
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction...It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them (our children) to do the same." ~President Ronald Reagan
???
Submitted by DaveInNM on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 11:27pm.
The left spent eight years trying to paint George W. Bush as illegitimate who stole the Presidency, making internet games where you'd try to shoot Bush, and even a movie showing their dream of him being assassinated...
Try portraying Obama as a monkey as y'all did so often with Bush and watch the left go nuts about how horribly hateful that is. Oh wait... It happened, except it wasn't even Obama in the picture but a policy with the cartoon depicting King Kong's death, and that was enough to get the left in a snit fit for radical Muslims seeing a cartoon of Mohammed.
This crap has ONE purpose, and that is to try to shut down any speech that opposes the far left agenda y'all are trying to take the country down in spite of massive opposition from the people.
Welcome To NB, Newbie!
Submitted by miss911ninja on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 2:01am.
I think you're going to fit in quite well here! ; -)
Thanks, but we'll have to wait and see...
Submitted by DaveInNM on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 8:10pm.
I'm new here but have posted on political forums since the Kosovo war, and in the process have been called everything from a commie to a nazi. Apparently, it's the issue that determines whether I'm way left or way right. :-/
Go knock your pud, troll
Submitted by Dave. on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 11:41pm.
Just don't do it on my site.
It wouldn't look nice on my highway.
You can think about it, but dooooooooon't do it.
Putz
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
i look forward to seeing you get
Submitted by porpoiseboy on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:33pm.
your arse handed to you in a couple minutes.
Ecclesiastes 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left
The best social program is a JOB...ronald reagan
Once again---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 7:57pm.
trolls are falling from the rafters.
MD
Krugman
Submitted by Scott Trent on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 8:08pm.
I blame Obama for the shooting. I blame him because of his fundamental transformation of America has this Country as divided as I have ever seen it.
Obama incited violence!
Barack Obama, "If they bring a knife, we bring a GUN..." June 14, 2008 "Argue with Neighbors, Get in their Face..." Sept 18, 2008Another NB 2.0 feature...
Submitted by Rukus on Sun, 01/09/2011 - 10:42pm.
Attracting new trolls, they seem to come in pairs. Sock-puppets? Probably. Just run of the mill trolls? Maybe. Hypocritical moonbats? Yeah, that's it!
the shooting and the blaim game
Submitted by lonewolf28 on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 12:03am.
who ever blames the right palin beck etc.lie to them selfs when they look in the mirror,and are tolal bone heads that are as dumb as a cockroch who thinks hes safe when he hides in the crackes of the walls and come out when they think they have something to offer to what happen to this lady.and its as like the trader hanoi jane fonda and what she did to our people at the the place where the kept our prisener when she went to the hanoi hilton.3 people died when she gave them people the ss numbers of the prisenders.wy don't u people call her on that and obama wants to give this itch award for what sh has done in her life people lets not forgt.wy is it not in the histroy books where it belongs
The Real Haters
Submitted by DaMama on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 1:55am.
Those who point to Palin, Limbaugh, Beck and other conservatives as the reason for this insane man's rampage in Arizona are stupid, ignorant people. They are the ones who are fostering hate in our society.
Their level of intelligence is so compromised by their utter hatred for anything conservative. They are the epitome of the knee-jerk liberals who have the attention spans of gnats.
These people are despicable.
So, DaMama...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 2:16am.
If some nut, God forbid, tried to inflict serious bodily harm on Dick Cheney, do you believe it likely there would be a heated reaction from a significant number of conservatives blaming the assault on Olbermann et al. And would you dismiss them as stupid, ignorant people?
Jer
very good question Jer!!
Submitted by Agnostic on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 2:28am.
DaMama can answer but I would like to comment on the part that assumes the media is liberal. Have we gotten to the point in the news media today that we can assume that the heated reaction from the media is from their leftest point of view? I know the conservative on this site make that assumption but since your questions makes the assumption that the media's heated reaction from the media is liberal or at least an opposition to conservative then as a liberal do you view the news assuming a left pov?
Agnostic...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 2:33am.
If you're asking whether or not I believe the MSM tilts left, the answer is yes.
Jer
Jer, close enough
Submitted by Agnostic on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 2:36am.
mostly asking if it is prevelant enough to be assumed
Thanks
Hmm.... The polls I've seen
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 2:47am.
Hmm....
The polls I've seen indicate that a majority of Americans believe there is a liberal bias in the media. As far as it being assumed, I don't think it necessarily should be as a matter of course, even if the reporting is in connection with a political/ideological matter.
Imo, media bias is more pronounced with regard to social/racial issues.
Jer
*ahem* For Jer and the Troll/Sockpuppet Parade
Submitted by txradioguy on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 2:23am.
RALL: The basic argument for me is that if you think the Democrats and the Republicans are equally useless, and you think the two-party system is essentially unreformable—in other words, they’re not going to allow a third party to challenge them in any meaningful way which I think is the case—they will not let a third party play fair, and if you think Obama’s not good enough and you’re not happy with what the ‘reform’ looks like, then you have to come to the same conclusion that I did. You can either accept that the country is going to go down the shitter, or you can get off your ass and do something about it. And that’s what I’m urging people to do— to get off your ass and do something about it, and I don’t mean sending a donation to Move-on.org. I mean do something about it. The way people have always done something in other countries. http://newsbusters.org/content/radical-cartoonist-ted-rall-deep-end-new-... Air America talk show hostess Randi Rhodes apparently crossed the line into the "put a gun to President Bush's head" camp on Monday with a bad radio skit, but the liberal talk network claims there is no Secret Service investigation into the incident. The controversy stems from a Social Security reform bit on her program, in which someone from the fictional "American Association of Armed Retired People" says, "A spoiled child is telling us our Social Security isn't safe anymore, so he is going to fix it for us. "Well, here's your answer, you ungrateful whelp," says the imagined retiree - and then four gunshots ring out. http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/4/27/172559.shtml Two posters to Democratic Underground were investigated by the Secret Service for posts that, according to David Allen, violated the DU policy stating "Do not post messages that could be construed as advocating harm or death to the president or other high-ranking official in the United States government." [14] Neither the comments nor the posters' identities are public knowledge, but David Allen said that both members had been banned prior to DU being notified of the investigation, You’re damn right, Dick Cheney’s heart’s a political football. We ought to rip it out and kick it around and stuff it back in him http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/195518/ed-schultz-wants-heart-dick-... And I would remind all of you of the President encouraging supporters to "get in the faces' of people that disagreed with him and his policies. Now exactly WHO needs to take responsibility for heated rhetoric and inflammatory words that incite violence?Is this a quiz? And, for
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 2:30am.
Is this a quiz?
And, for pete's sake, put a few courtesy breaks in your screed.
Jer
LOL!
Submitted by txradioguy on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 2:59am.
Not a quiz. Just a statement of fact.
Physician heal thyself. Every single time there has been a nutjob that kills people or tries to blow up a building lately...you and the rest of the Libtard left try to blame Conservatives.
When in fact what you should really be doing is taking a good long look in the mirror at the angry hate filled violence inducing language coming from your compatriots.
Those examples I cited were just the ones I remember off the top of my head.
Need another one? How about the movie written called "The Assassnation of George W. Bush"?
More? The Secret Service investigating (yet again) investigating David Skinner and DemocraticUnderground.com when one of his members posted a photoshopped image of cross hairs over the Bush ranch in Crawford.
I can continue if you want? Not that any of you lefty's suffering from cranial rectal infarction will EVER admit that 99.% of the violent acts comitted against politicians...public figures etc all come from the Democrat party and end up having memberships at Kos...HiffPo and DU.
As for the page breaks...tried putting them in...a couple times...but the formatting on this website and the internet where I am currently at in the world aren't my friend.
I think you know what i was getting at...but taking a jab at how I posted what I did was all you could meekly come back with.
Try harder next time ok Jer.
tx... You are a LIAR. i
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 3:21am.
tx...
You are a LIAR. i HAVE NOT BLAMED ANYONE BUT THE NUT WHO PULLED THE TRIGGER. PLEASE STOP YOUR PATHETIC LIES. Check with anyone here who knows me and follows my posts. You obviously are completely clueless.
THANKS...
Jer
Really?
Submitted by txradioguy on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 3:51am.
Up stream in this thread you were defending the sockpuppets and fellow trolls who were knee jerk blaming the right and talk radio for the shooting.
I've followed your posts. I don't pull the leftist trick of making things up out of thin air.
If you and your trol buddy/sockpuppet agnostic would take the time to actually READ...the title of my post went to those sockpuppets as well.
hate to break it to you Jer...but it's NOT all about you on here...as much as you like to make it that way.
As for calling me a liar...unless you've got more proof than just wishful thinking by you and agnostic...BOTH of you can go pound sand.
I stand by what I said with no apologies or corrections.
EADC.
Why don't you either link or
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 4:41am.
Why don't you either link or direct me to precisely what you have in mind, ace. You claimed that every single time some nutjob kills somebody or tries to blow up a building lately, I attempt to blame it on conservatives. Prove it, liar.
Jer
By the way, your lack of apology is meaningless to me. You are in the process of being exposed as a liar and a cheap smear merchant and you'll carry that reputation with you as long as you remain at this website. Enjoy.
tx
Submitted by well99 on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 10:13am.
You need to reread those post.Jer nor Agnostic are trolls.Also Jer from the git go has blamed the killer not Palin or the right.I havent seen Agnostic blame the right either.You might do as I suggest.
txradioguy
Submitted by Agnostic on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 3:27am.
Got to say you are wrong on this one. Jer has consistantly blamed the shooter. About all you can accuse him of on this thread is deflecting some of the criticism hurled at the media and justifiably telling people to slow down before jumping to conclusions.
Thank you very much, Agnostic...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 3:41am.
I try very hard to make balanced judgments, and to avoid generalizations and assessing people and events based on stereotypical presumptions.
So it's especially disheartening to be accused of doing precisely what I don't do--and certainly haven't done in the case of the Arizona tragedy--but very gratifying to have someone from "across the aisle" speak up on my behalf.
Thanks again.
Jer
Read above comment to Jer
Submitted by txradioguy on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 4:00am.
Applies to you too champ.
If you weren't so busy patting each other on the back...and if you weren't so quick to jump to a fellow "blame the right" idiot...you'd see that not only was jer addressed in there but the legion of sockpuppet's and trolls that showed up on this thread as well.
As fast as you both knee jerked on what I said...you might want to go to the ER and get checked for a concussion.
If you were referring to others...
Submitted by Jer on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 4:05am.
why did you lie about me?
Jer
goal post
Submitted by Agnostic on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 7:39am.
I might have got whip lash from watching the goal post change so fast but other than that I am fine - thank you very much for your concern.
I keep forgetting I'm not conservative and need the occassional reminder as well.
Krugman Idiot
Submitted by RightRealDeal on Mon, 01/10/2011 - 11:17am.
How Dare He! So, the Left can do whatever they want and no one is allowed to object? I don't think so! He is an way out of bounds here, this country was founded on free speech and no one even Krugman The Wonderful should be allowed to interfere or even suggest that anyone but the shooter is to blame.
Krugman ought to shut up but the very point is that freedom of speech even allows idiots to spew their whack job Krugmanisms.
Again, how dare he or Sheiffer or any of those bleeding heart, let's pay for everything for everybody. do what we want and have no one object.
I find him offensive and his rhetoric to be inappropriate.
Tie ins
Submitted by dieselpop1 on Tue, 01/11/2011 - 1:30am.
I'm waiting to see how global warming contributed to this incident. (we need a tongue-in-cheek icon)