Whoopi Goldberg Doesn't Believe Japanese Attacked Pearl Harbor, Thinks Muslims More Persecuted Than Jews
Whoopi Goldberg on Tuesday demonstrated an absolutely staggering ignorance concerning a variety of subjects.
Appearing on Fox News's "O'Reilly Factor," Goldberg admitted not knowing what a madrasa is, said it wasn't the Japanese that attacked America at Pearl Harbor, and claimed Muslims in America are more persecuted than Jews (video follows with transcript and commentary):
BILL O'REILLY, Host: Do you believe in the world, we have a Muslim problem?
WHOOPI GOLDBERG: No.
O'REILLY: OK.
GOLDBERG: I think we have a terrorist problem.
O'REILLY: OK. So, you don't believe we have a Muslim problem.
Would you agree with me that if all the good Muslims, and I think they overwhelm the bad Muslims, OK? Would cooperate with the West, with the United States and NATO and other countries, that we wouldn't have a terrorist problem? For example, if Pakistan would cooperate with the United States, we wouldn't have the Taliban problem in Afghanistan. We would defeat them.
GOLDBERG: That would all be great if that's how it worked.
O'REILLY: But that's how it works.
GOLDBERG: But it isn't how it works, because, if you recall -- think of it this way, that crazy gentleman, I take that back because that's rude -- the gentleman that said he was going to burn the Koran, that got played all around the world.
O'REILLY: You mean the nut down in Florida?
GOLDBERG: I'm not going to say that.
O'REILLY: OK, I will. But that, you're diverting the attention.
GOLDBERG: No, no, I'm not. Listen to my point.
O'REILLY: All right. Go ahead.
GOLDBERG: So, all the people who are watching around the world saying, boy, America feels like that, so Americans --
O'REILLY: See, but I disagree. I don't think Muslims think that everybody is like that crazy guy. I don't believe that.
But let's get back to Pakistan. Pakistan, if they would help us --
GOLDBERG: No, no. Bill, Bill.
O'REILLY: -- we could win that.
GOLDBERG: Bill, do you think that the people in Pakistan, the people who live in Pakistan, the poor people, the people who don't have any say, you think they don't want help to help the West?
O'REILLY: A lot of them don't. The madrasa -- do you know what a madrasa is?
GOLDBERG: No, I don't.
O'REILLY: OK. Madrasa is a school that teaches Islamic jihad and there are madrasas all over the Muslim world. They teach 4 and 5-year-old kids to hate people.
GOLDBERG: Bill, that may be true --
O'REILLY: It is true.
GOLDBERG: It may be true. I can't prove it. You've clearly been --
O'REILLY: I can.
GOLDBERG: You've clearly been to them and I will take your word for it. But that does not change the fact that when you paint all Muslims with one brush, it's bad.
So, this woman gets to discuss serious matters about religion and terrorism on national television, but she's never heard of a madrasa. But that's just the beginning:
O'REILLY: I'm not painting all Muslims with one brush.
GOLDBERG: But when you say Muslims killed us, when you don't specify. It's like saying whenever I see black men coming down the street, I'm scared. That's the same --
O'REILLY: Do you have a problem in history when you were taught about World War II that Japanese attacked us? Do you have a problem with that?
GOLDBERG: I have a problem with that.
O'REILLY: Do you?
GOLDBERG: Yes.
O'REILLY: But they attacked us?
GOLDBERG: The Japanese --
O'REILLY: Attacked us.
GOLDBERG: -- army attacked us.
O'REILLY: The air force did.
GOLDBERG: Sorry, the air force did. You understand my point?
Understand your point? The Japanese air force attacked us on December 7, 1941, NOT the Japanese?
Goldberg apparently has "a problem" saying it was the Japanese because all of that nation's people weren't on the planes that morning!
But there's still more:
O'REILLY: No, I don't, because I think you are cutting the hair so thin. We have a Muslim problem in the world in the sense that 90 percent of the terrorism.
GOLDBERG: Bill, we're going to disagree.
O'REILLY: Come from that area.
GOLDBERG: You know what? What do you mean 90 percent of the terrorists --
O'REILLY: Yes?
GOLDBERG: -- are from everywhere. They are white.
O'REILLY: No, predominantly they are Muslims.
GOLDBERG: Right now.
O'REILLY: Right. That's what we are talking about.
GOLDBERG: Right now, everybody can say the Muslims are the terrorists. Two years ago, it was the white people that were the terrorists.
O'REILLY: What white people?
GOLDBERG: Oh, wasn't it white people that blew up Oklahoma City?
O'REILLY: Yes, two of them. Two of them.
GOLDBERG: What about all the folks
(CROSSTALK)
O'REILLY: It's like saying crime is white is black.
GOLDBERG: Bill, we disagree.
O'REILLY: All right. We disagree.
GOLDBERG: We disagree on this.
O'REILLY: But I just want to be clear.
GOLDBERG: And it's OK.
O'REILLY: We have to have these discussions.
GOLDBERG: We must have these discussions.
O'REILLY: Right. But I just want to be clear and I'll give you the last word on this and then we'll get to your book.
GOLDBERG: OK.
O'REILLY: I believe there is a Muslim problem in the world.
GOLDBERG: OK.
O'REILLY: And that's what I was trying to get across to you guys on "The View."
GOLDBERG: Right.
O'REILLY: That 70 percent of Americans believe the way I do. They thought it was inappropriate to make a Muslim community center that close to Ground Zero. That was my point.
GOLDBERG: I understood your point. What did I not understand and I will just reiterate it again because --
O'REILLY: I just left out the word terrorist.
GOLDBERG: Yes. Because in this day and age when kids are getting their butts kicked because they are Muslim, OK?
O'REILLY: Not so much.
GOLDBERG: Bill, are you kidding me?
O'REILLY: New study today, Jews in America are far more likely to be persecuted than Muslims, just came out today.
GOLDBERG: You know what? I'm sure that someone believes that, but I believe that in neighborhoods where they don't want Muslims, they beat up kids.
She's sure someone believes that? Well, I don't know what new report O'Reilly was talking about, but as NewsBusters reported in August, according to the FBI, Jews in 2008 were victims of hate crimes ten times as much as Muslims.
Alas, such facts are unimportant to Goldberg, for she believes anything she wants regardless of all the inconvenient truths out there.
Of course, that is her right. After all, ignorance is bliss.
But that she has a national platform like ABC's "The View," with over 3.5 million viewers on a daily basis, to spread this ignorance is deeply disturbing.
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Comments
She's funny and a fine
Submitted by Newsbusterbrown on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 12:48pm.
She's funny and a fine actress, but a brain surgeon she's not.
“There are no easy answers, but there are simple answers. We must have the courage to do what we know is morally right.” - Ronald Reagan (1964 Republican Convention)
Funny???
Submitted by Joe W. on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:00pm.
Oh, pulease.....this vile creature is neither "funny" nor a "fine" actress. She is an ignorant racist, totally devoid of any educated perspective on the issues facing our nation today. To allow her to express her misguided opinions in the national media is a travesty.
In other words Barack with
Submitted by Barack_must_go..... on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 3:49pm.
In other words Barack with dreds?
Barack_Must_Go.....
Ms. Goldberg
Submitted by Joe the Cop on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 11:06pm.
I'm giving the woman credit by saying she deserved that Oscar nomination for The Color Purple, even if it was 25 years ago; she did NOT deserve the one she won for Ghost. As a Jew herself, you'd think she'd be more sensitive to the plight of Jews around the world. As Rush says, liberals are liberals first.Joe the Cop
Submitted by Trix Rabbit on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 11:14pm.
Goldberg is not a Jew. She adopted a Jewish surname because it was a more catchy name for show business.
I think most Jews, like myself, want nothing to do with her.
For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me. As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.
Ian Anderson "Wind up"
She's funny LOOKING, I'll grant you that...
Submitted by m4ster chief on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 11:17pm.
...but funny? No. And why would anyone want to watch this mental midget act?
Goldberg is suffering from
Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 12:50pm.
Goldberg is suffering from "head in the sand" syndrome thus avoiding reality.
Beuk, you are to polite. she
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:12pm.
Beuk, you are to polite. she is suffering from head up her a$$ syndrome.
Otherwise known as...
Submitted by onewiseguy on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 12:51pm.
"Cranial Rectitis"
I think her head is stuck
Submitted by Free Stinker on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:24pm.
I think her head is stuck somewhere else . . ./// Sarah Palin Fan since July 11, 2007 /// خال
I watched this last night!
Submitted by Newsbubba on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 12:53pm.
I sat there watching O'Reilly trying to have an adult conversation with this idiot and could not believe it! She is more psychotic than Special Ed, for Christ's sake.
When O'Reilly asked if she believed that the US was attacked by the japanese in WWII, she looked shocked. She mumbled something about the "Japanese Air Force" attacked us, and was totally baffled why Bill would say we were attacked by the Japanese.
In the future, can our enemies send a resume of EACH participant in an attack so that we don't have to have these idiotic conversations with the Queen of PC. We can list specifically who was involved.
Do you think that rooting for "their side" counts?
I never was much for eugenics, but something has to be done to keep these people from breeding. At least a good number of them are gay. Now if we can just ban turkey basters.
Point of clarification: She
Submitted by Beukeboom on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:04pm.
Point of clarification: She mumbled something about the "Japanese army" attacking us and O'Reilly had to correct her with "air force." However both of them were incorrect since it was aircraft and mini-subs from the Japanese NAVY attacked us at Pearl Harbor on the orders of the Japanese Empire via the command of Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto
Not to split hairs too much,
Submitted by Bruzilla on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:24pm.
Not to split hairs too much, but Japanese Prime Minister Hideki Tojo, who was the guy who pushed the plan to attack the United States and who ordered the attack on Pearl Harbor, was an Imperial Army general. Also, like the US at the time, Japan had no Air Force. They had Army and Navy aviation just like we had the Army Air Corps and the Navy.
Turkey Basters?
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 2:14pm.
Bubba, how the heck am I going to baste my turkey w/o a turkey baster?
Not that it matters, I'm off to the Triple M Seafood to buy a bunch of stone crabs and whatnot, we're having stone crabs, crabstuffed portobellos, salad, champagne, and key lime pie. Thanksgiving, Blonde Gator style.
I'll do a smoked turkey breast and small Thanksgiving style meal next week. So on second thought, go ahead and ban the basters. Why not? San Fran banned toys in Happy Meals, might as well get back at them for some of their stupidity.
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That does it. Dave is driving to J's house for Thanksgiving
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 3:30pm.
:-)
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
LOL, Dave
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 4:59pm.
It's what I always do.....better hop in that car.
Here's a little Thanksgiving Treat for everyone....some people buy flowers....I have an orchid that blooms every year at Thanksgiving.
I've had it for 26 years, it is AWESOME!
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J,
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 9:19pm.
I'll be thinking about those stone crabs, crabstuffed portobellos, salad, champagne, and key lime pie while I am standing outside (probably in the rain) tomorrow smoking that bird.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
"smoking that bird."
Submitted by Rukus on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 9:41pm.
and those basturds are hard to light, dang! : )
Ruk,
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 10:44pm.
LOL - The really tricky part is the feathers, as they have a nasty tendency to flare up and singe your eyebrows. :-^)
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Yeah but they replaced them
Submitted by Barack_must_go..... on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 3:58pm.
Yeah but they replaced them ( toys ) with cute little gerbils.
The adult males purchasing the new ( not so happy for the poor gerbil ) meals outpaces those purchased for children 20 to 1.
I guess in Sodom & Gamora ( San Fran ) they consider that a win, win situation.
Barack_Must_Go.....
You're killing me, Blonde.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 5:34pm.
I had to "go north" for the holiday, so no stone crab or key lime pie for me.
You enjoy, especially the weather, the water, the sunshine, etc, etc, etc!
Whoever said that West Virginia was "almost heaven" should have gone to south Florida first.
You Southerners kill me
Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 6:42pm.
"I had to "go north" for the holiday, so no stone crab or key lime pie for me."
You Southerners kill me. It's not "go north, " it's "go Up North." As in: I went Up North for my vacation. My cabin is Up North. You goen hunten Up North this year? Just like it's "Down South," "Out West," and "Out East"
It's no wonder you all lost the civil war, your sense of direction is screwed up. We went Down South to fight while you guys simply went "north" and got lost. ;)
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
You Northerners kill me
Submitted by 26CX on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 6:49pm.
It's not "It's no wonder you all lost the civil war...."
It's "It's no wonder y'all lost the civil war..."
If you're going to criticize people from the South, at least make an attempt to use proper grammar.
Ya sure ya betcha.
Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 7:01pm.
Ya sure ya betcha. Wookay fine.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
That sounds more mid-western
Submitted by Rukus on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 7:26pm.
I reckon y'all got yer dialects mixed up. The southern drawl is one of the most beloved accents. We don't say you betcha, we say sho' nuff! Git yer dialects straight buddy! ; )
Tell that to the Canadians!
Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 9:35pm.
"The southern drawl is one of the most beloved accents."
Tell that to the Canadians! (My God! Did I just actually SAY that?)
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Yep, you said it
Submitted by Rukus on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 9:42pm.
Now ya gotta own it. LOL! : )
Southern sense of direction.
Submitted by Newsbubba on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 7:03pm.
Easy CobraMan. I actually went Up South following your Yankee interpretation. Problem is I live soooooo far south that there ain't no way I can go any way but up. Being a Southern boy, I can't say I'm going Up North because I never want to do that. Too many Yankees!
So the plain fact is I went north, but I was still Down South. If the people here heard me say I was Up North, I could lose my life!
By the way, I live closer to Havana than I do to a Walmart. If I go anywhere in the USA, I go north!
Oh yeah, that war you said we lost? It ain't over yet.
Shoot a moose for me.
Hee hee, Bubba
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 7:11pm.
I know....you have two ways to get off the rock....up the Highway of Death, or offshore to beautiful blue deep sea, where all tasty things live.
P.S. I'm glad there's no Walmart in the Keys yet....but in a pinch, the K-Mart on Islamorada is just fine....a really fab selection of fishing tackle, and a surefire spot to score your honey a swimsuit, without spending a fortune.
As for "too many Yankees"....LOL, you're in Key West! If I visited you there...I'd be the only native born Floridian there.
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Bubba and Blonde,
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 9:13pm.
you make me want to cry. I'm stuck up here in PA finishing raking leaves so I can be ready for another cold messy winter. Sigh. Way to long to retirement.
Just teasin ya
Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 8:02pm.
I'm just teasn' ya.
Oh, and , Yes, you lost the war. I don't see a Jefferson Davis Confederate Presidential Library, do you? Heh.
"By the way, I live closer to Havana than I do to a Walmart."
What, no Walmarts in Havana? Well, give it time. I'm not giving up on Cuba just yet. They still drive Chevy's there, you know. Granted, they're the same Chevy's that were there when Truman was President, but, hay, an American car is still an American car, so there's still hope.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Cobra...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 2:24am.
The Jefferson Davis Presidential Library is actually a tiny corner of the Richmond Public Library and consists of a single volume.
Jer
No moose for you.
Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 7:57pm.
"Shoot a moose for me."
I live in Minnesota. I could probably bag you a White Tail Buck, but that's about it.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
No no no! I don't go North, "up" or otherwise
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 7:13pm.
South and West are the only directions I'm interested in.
I've been north, nothing there for this Floridian.
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I was UP North also...
Submitted by Rukus on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 7:33pm.
when my job sent me. The hospital I went to was in Michigan. Most of the folks there were very nice, but some seemed non-plussed when I gave them the "Good Morning", kinda just strared at me like I was an alien. But mostly good folks. I'll take the South any day. I can always say to the ladies sweetie, hon etc.and they don't bat an eye, just natural with us southern boys.
Don't pull that 'sweetie' or
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 7:37pm.
Don't pull that 'sweetie' or 'hon' crap on any big city Feminazis...............they'll have you arrested and castrated in a New York minute!!!
I'm a southern boy...
Submitted by Rukus on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 7:43pm.
therefore I don't care. If they don't like it tough! Yeah, I get ya man, it's nice down here where I can say that and they understand. All my nurses love me for it! They call me hon all the time and I love it! Down south rocks!!!
Hey.........I'm all for
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 8:48pm.
Hey.........I'm all for it..........but I've seen a few self-righteous battle-axes who would get really indignant and feign severe 'insultation' if some guy said something like that - innocently!!!
Article 15
Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 9:02pm.
You think that's bad? In the military, as least when I served in the 80's you can be arrested and charged with a crime for saying things like that to a woman. It doesn't matter if they're civilian or your fellow troops ether! You say ANYTHING, do ANYTHING that can be considered as "sexist" or "suggestive" and it's an Article 15 for you!
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
West?
Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 8:10pm.
West? How far west can a Floridian actually travel? Go too far west and you'll end up in Ecuador!
(Remember the kid that supposedly traveled, on foot, from Ecuador to Florida in, what was it, three to four weeks?)
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Thanks, y'all, for
Submitted by UpNorth on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 2:15am.
mentioning me, Cobra....
'We disagree'.......'we must
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 12:58pm.
'We disagree'.......'we must have these discussions'........I think both of those statements actually meant 'I don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about, so let's move onto some subject that I can actually comment on'.............
And, Buster...........with all due respect to you, I DON'T think she's funny OR a fine actress.
When is the expiration date
Submitted by dmaley1714 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 12:58pm.
for the Oklahoma Ctiy bombings, maybe 2014 when it will 20 years since the last milita attack in America. It has only been 16 years so thats not good enough. Lets compare that to Muslim terrorism since 9/11 http://thereligionofpeace.com/ 16,428 terror events. Whoopie makes so many mistakes she is thinking of changing her name to whoopsie.
Where does Whoopi get her news?
Submitted by needle on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 7:37pm.
It must be whatever NYT dribble manages to drip through a triple-ply PC filter adjusted especially for blacks.
BTW, thanks d1714, helping me decode "Two years ago, it was the white people that were the terrorists."
I heard the whole interview. but I could not figure for the life of me what white terroists did "two years ago."
- Looking forward to the self-annihilation of the Manipulated Stories Machine.
Woopie gets her news from
Submitted by Denny Crane on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 11:58pm.
This place
"Lib free or die"
We Are The 53%
well, they are BOTH wrong
Submitted by jwm45 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 12:58pm.
well, they are BOTH wrong about Pearl Harbor - it was the Japanese NAVY that attacked - the aircraft were launched from carriers
Wow...just wow. I didn't
Submitted by Duymon on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:04pm.
Wow...just wow.
I didn't know we were putting Muslims in internment camps, taking away all their property, executing them en-masses and/or doing grotesque scientific experiments and horrible procedures like Vivisections.
At least that's what Ms. Goldberg wants us to believe......
As for the Japanese issue, yes they did attack us and it was unfortunate.
What we should focus our attention to is the absolutely nazi-esque response of imprisoning all of our Japanese-American patriots and citizens simply because of their yellow skin. A lot of us wonder why they didn't also throw in all the german and italian americans too? This perhaps is the one real stain on the American Record during WWII
duymon, Italians may not have
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:20pm.
duymon, Italians may not have been put in camps, but they were treated badly by the U.S. during WWII. At least this nation no longer discontinues this practice. It is in the past, bringing it up makes no sense.
I'm sure those killed in Pearl Harbor would agree their deaths were "unfortunate". The rape of Nanking, and the Bataan Death March were also "unfortunate".
Some were.
Submitted by T-Bone Mass on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:24pm.
My father recalls "moving " to the central valley of California away from a Naval station he and family lived near in the early forties. His brother , my Uncle told me it was because of the war. They weren't imprisoned, just had to lived with his italian relatives away from the base.
To be more accurate . . .
Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 4:05pm.
. . . not all Japanese-Americans were re-located to the camps. Only those on the West Coast were relocated. They lost their homes, businesses, and livelihoods.
Had the government imprisoned the Japanese-Americans in Hawaii, for instance, they would've had to imprison a large portion of the labor force, and the economy would've ground to a halt.
This isn't to rationalize the internment, or to suggest that racism wasn't a factor. And I'm sure those Japanese-Americans in other regions of the country were subjected to increased prejudice throughout and after the war.
But the internment wasn't nationwide.
Small numbers of German and Italian descent were incarcerated, but in general, those ethnic groups were not held under suspicion. Had the government sent them to internment camps, the US armed forces would be hard-pressed to fill manpower requirements, starting at the top with senior flag officers like Eisenhower, Spaatz, Nimitz, et al.
Gal, actually Italians were
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 4:15pm.
Gal, actually Italians were considered suspicious. My husband's grandparents came over from Italy in around 1920. They had two stars in their front window, indicating two of their sons were serving in the armed forces. They had also had their radio confiscated during WWII, much to the ire of one of those men serving, who still gets angry about it.
You're right, Rad
Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 4:26pm.
I shouldn't have made it sound absolute. There were suspicions by the government of 1st generation Americans (the immigrants) from Germany and Italy. Some of those folks were incarcerated.
The Real crimes by the Japanese
Submitted by ahusser on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 2:37pm.
Were those perpetrated on prisoners of war. Australian, New Zealand, British and American POW's were subjected to starvation, disease, torture and execution. I recently read a statistic that almost 40 percent of American POW's died in their custody. This is not including the hundreds of thousands of civilians in China, Philipines and other countries executed by Japanese occupation forces. These barbarities have never been really addressed by the Japanese who still refuse to apologize for their war crimes. Liberals are incredibly ignorant of history and change it to fit their "feelings" as well as the persistent of filtering the past through the modern PC rose colored glasses. Witness the typical liberal response to the Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the recent flop of the Minip-series "The Pacific" which blamed American "racism" for the war.
"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'
ahusser, thank you! The fact
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 2:46pm.
ahusser, thank you! The fact that the U.S. may have violated the Civil Rights of some of it's citizens during WWII is NOTHING compared to the actions of Japan and Germany during the war. I remember reading the book about the flag on Iwo Jima, and the author couldn't understand why his father refused to ever buy a Japanese car until his father's death.
What has, and continues to be, swept under the rug are the actions of other nations that show NO concern for human life, while our nation is berated by the likes of Goldberg. I can assure her, that was done to the Chinese in the city of Nanking, was rape rape, until the women and girls died.
polar opposites?
Submitted by jon_torlin on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:06pm.
Ever notice how the characters she play are real smart or clever?
Totally opposite of her in real life.
-Jon
Ignorant & Ugly
Submitted by miss911ninja on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 2:31pm.
And we know that if she's not informed enough to know what a madrassa is, she doesn't have a clue about "taqiyya," or understand what a "rabat" is. Yet she'll keep on flapping her jaws about the Ground Zero mosque like she's so SUPERIOR to the well-informed people who object to it!
Whoopi is ignorant and ugly, which is the two-fer we often get with Lib-Dim females, but she's the poster child.
If, If, If
Submitted by Bill W. on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:08pm.
I have to believe that IF Muslim kids were getting beat up like Whoopi says that it would be the lead story in every mainstream media outlet. Anyone seen this? Just BS.
Oklahoma City? Equal to 9/11? Something is wrong with this woman.
Just once, ONCE....
Submitted by Blonde on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 2:19pm.
...when one of these libtards toss out a ridiculous statement like that, I'd like to see the interviewer (Bill O sucks up to certain people, Whoops is one of them, I have no idea why).....stop and say something like "Really, can you provide me with three examples, of who, what, when, and where?"
Handy Reference Guide to Obama's Gaffes and Goofs ~ Currently Numbering 200 (and Counting)
Huh?
Submitted by MDetwill on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:17pm.
Ok.. Whoopi needs a full TSA pat down upside the head to see what pops out her ears cuz there is no doubt that the grey matter left years ago...
Where to start on this
Submitted by Radical1979 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:17pm.
Where to start on this idiocy? The Airforce, Navy, whatever, is an arm of the government of a country, acting for and the behest of the country. Thus it WAS the nation of Japan who attacked us.
Her snide little comment about BOR actually SEEING the madrasas reminds me of the birthers actually wanting to see Obama's birth certificate, except that in the case of the madrasas the proof if their existance is verifiable.
I wish BOR would have challenged her information about muslim's "getting their butts kicked". He had proof, she had none.
Whoopie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Submitted by Tomorama on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:20pm.
That's why she got an Oscar, the ACTING was incredible and the character was totally different than her true self...................................
She isn't stupid, stupid, more like imbecilic.
Stupid, stupid?
Submitted by jimbo297 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 2:16pm.
Is that like "rape, rape?"
Yep
Submitted by Tomorama on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 3:41pm.
Ding, ding Jimbo, great minds my friend.
This woman is a failed
Submitted by Bruzilla on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:21pm.
This woman is a failed comedian. Why would anyone give a crap what she thinks?
O'REILLY: New study today,
Submitted by motherbelt on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:22pm.
O'REILLY: New study today, Jews in America are far more likely to be persecuted than Muslims, just came out today.
GOLDBERG: You know what? I'm sure that someone believes that, but I believe that in neighborhoods where they don't want Muslims, they beat up kids.
Don't bother Whoopi with facts.
She don't need no stinking facts!
She knows what she "believes." And her belief (i.e.) her reality, i.e., is just as valid as the other.
This is what comes of public education, where kids can believe that 2+2 = 5.
Relative Truth
Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 2:35pm.
To the Left, facts are less relevent than faith in the dogma. Thus, the study that O'Reilly cites is his "belief," while Goldberg maintains her own "belief" unsubstantiated by any facts. Facts that challenge dogma are ignored or marginalized.
MB, exactly,
Submitted by UpNorth on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 5:11pm.
and where kids believe that "yo" is the equivalent of, excuse me. Whoopsie believes she knows what she's talking about, and no amount of proof that she doesn't will disuade her from making an ass of herself in front of millions. Next time, she might give thought to appearing on MessNBC, then no one will see or hear her.
Painting all Muslims is bad
Submitted by KC Mulville on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:22pm.
Her argument is that the rest of the world sees that guy down in Florida, and based on that, they're making judgments about us. We have to accept that this is what the rest of the world does.
But we can't make judgments about Islam based on terrorists.
Ok, so when do we get to play by the same rules?
Exactly
Submitted by Galvanic on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 2:41pm.
It's tiresome to listen folks like Goldberg tell us that one outspoken anti-Muslim American taints the whole nation, but a few hundred deadly terrorists don't taint Islam.
Galvanic
Submitted by Denny Crane on Fri, 11/26/2010 - 12:09am.
Not to dispute you but if it were only a few hundred, I don't think it would taint Islam.
More like a few hundred thousand.
"Lib free or die"
We Are The 53%
TY for Pointing that out
Submitted by Barkhorn1x on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:28pm.
Goldberg is an idiot. Oklahoma City was 2 years ago?? Try 15 you genuis. And then she tries to compare this incident with the THOUSANDS of Islamic terror attackes each year?
BTW, the latest FBI Hate Crime stats are now out for 2009 and - once again - Anti-semetic incidents outnumber Anti-muslim incidents by a 9 to 1 margin. An interesting question is; how many of the Anti-semetic incidents were committed by Muslims?
http://www2.fbi.gov/ucr/hc2009/data/table_01.html
muslims are getting beat up in the US? BS.
Submitted by SickofLibs on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:30pm.
Better not walk around in the UK, Whoopie. There are entire parts of major cities that are no-go zones for us apes and pigs.
Or maybe you should.
Yes, yes, yes---we all know
Submitted by liberalsarefunny on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:32pm.
Yes, yes, yes---we all know Whoopi is a genius.
And her audience (read: The Idiot Culture) is equally brilliant.
Whoopi wants us to be specific when she says to be specific.
Submitted by The Vet on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:37pm.
However, when it comes to her pointing out perceived wrongs that need to be right. Boop. Out comes the broad brush. The nameless they/them.
...neighborhoods where they don't want Muslims, they beat up kids.No need to get specific there huh? What happens if you aren't beating up kids in one of those neighborhoods? Oops, too bad, you got the label.
....all the people who are watching around the world...Whoa, Broad brush alert. Ain't specific. Must be specific!
I think we have a terrorist problem.
We? How broad can you get? We? All of us?
Yeah, we only need to be specific when Whoopi decides we need to be specific.
How is it and when did this
Submitted by DWoSD on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:40pm.
How is it and when did this cycle occur that all of a sudden the court clowns are the spokespersons for the far left...Rosie, Mahar. Stoopie, that other female nimwit whos name I can't think of..you know the one that thinks she's so above us all...
These idiots weren't paying attention in school and really say the most stupid things....as illustrated by ms. goldberg. yet they are given air time and some in the public actually listen to them...
This does reflect on the general idiocy of some in the public and all on the left. Absolute morons..
Joy Behar?
Submitted by jimbo297 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 2:40pm.
She definitely gets classified as a female nitwit!
Seriously, I don't care that most of these people are even alive-why the heck should I care what they think? Unless you count movie and TV time, they have contributed nothing, except maybe entertainment, to the world I live in.
If I have never seen a movie or show that starred Whoops in it, WHY would I care what she thinks? What is the intrinsic value contained in her insight?The wino walking down the street has as much credibility in his drunken stupor as this chatterbox.
Humor/Satire is easier than debate DW
Submitted by exLib on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 3:42pm.
I figure that for the left humor is all they have left. They can't argue their positions, at the very least they can't argue without getting all hot and bothered.
So, there are no left-wing Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck who reasonably put forth their ideology.
Instead, it's far easier to cariacture the right, like Colbert, and mock the right's ideology.
IF you call yourself a comedian you can get away with slander, lies, false equivalency, insulting people, etc. If anyone calls you on it, you just say "can't you take a joke?" or "Don't you have a sense of humor?". There is no accountablity in humor.
I believe *** ** ***
Submitted by solo4357 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:43pm.
Every point she made seemed to start with "I believe...". I've heard of faith based education but I don't think this is what they had in mind. So much for open mindedness.
Those evil planes
Submitted by bradc on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 1:51pm.
Makes sense. It's not the Japanese that attacked us, but planes.
And it's not murderers who kill people; it's guns.
Ban guns AND planes!!! (Hmm, the TSA is doing its best to put an end to flying...)
Hey, somehow they gotta
Submitted by Ashrak on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 8:56pm.
Hey, somehow they gotta increase demand for that high speed rail so they can justify all those shovel ready jobs!
when her brother Joy Behar
Submitted by sometimesright on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 2:14pm.
when her brother Joy Behar starts spouting off about the catholic church/christianity(which is pretty regular mind you) i never hear whoopi confront or contradict her. she goes with the flow, accepting it all. we all know she, like any good liberal, will always give islam a pass. christianity is another thing. be a christian and block an abortion clinic and you're a terrorist, burn churches down in alabama(2006) and you're an "arsonist".
I'm very happy
Submitted by dr-go on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 2:23pm.
that people such as Whoopi get to have a soapbox opportunity as this shows the left so well.
Whoopi-2010's Walter Cronkite
Submitted by esperanza4 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 2:44pm.
Sadly, with her daily talk show, like Stewart & Letterman & Colbert, they reach tens of millions every day, who believe they are a true source of news and facts. They are the information source for lots of people who buy it hook, line, and sinker. Yet, Fox which actually states what is news and what is opinion is called dangerous and misleading........terrific.
Whoopi, give her credit for going on. Then give her a book to read, because she's about as bright as a burnt out bulb. She's probably the brightest one on the snow! Oh no.
They say Palin and O'Donnell and Brown and Bachman and Bush are dumb, ill informed, unable to communicate properly........not in comparison to the likes of Whoopi and her View cast. Amazing.
Japan
Submitted by okiehawk44 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 2:58pm.
The Japanese culture in 1941 (that's the year Pearl Harbor was attacked Whoopi) was totally steeped in militarism.
Whoopi (can I call you Whoopi?) Japan, its people and its leaders were all complicit in multiple atrocities in WW2. You not wanting to paint with a brush that might get a drop of paint on some "innocent" anti-war Japanese whose name is lost to history -- IF there ever was someone like this Whoopi -- will not change this.
Today you may want to believe that you are better than most others because you descriminate between those of some group who were responsible and those who were absolutely not at all in any way responsible and you know what you are going to get? A historical rewrite where WW2 Germans were not supportive of other Germans who fought tenaciously to expand the German Empire via Nazism and Japanese who were not supportive of other Japanese who...Well you get the drift huh Whoopi? Or maybe not since you don't even know what a Madrassa is. Obama speaks fondly of his time attending a Madrassa in Indonesia -- Whoopi do you know who Obama is or are we going too fast for you?
Whoopi Gets All Her Information from Hollywood...
Submitted by Beresford on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 3:13pm.
...and remembers "Animal House"
"Was it over when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor?"
In Whoopi-world Animal House
Submitted by Dan Diego on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 9:15pm.
In Whoopi-world Animal House is a documentary based on a screenplay by some guy named George.Disappointed
Submitted by troglodyt on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 3:18pm.
After reading your headline imagine my surprise when I found out that she didn't want to blame the Japanese but the Japanese (military, fighter pilots, politicians, emperor or whatever).
Well, trogster---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 12:10am.
it's a good thing we all know that the Japanese military, fighter pilots, politicians, and emperor are for certain Japanese.
I'm sure that we all have a niggling suspicion that the rest of the Japanese nation consists of Swedes, Icelanders, Arabs, and Masai cattle herders.
MD
Well
Submitted by troglodyt on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 4:38am.
that wouldn't have disappointed my curiosity.
Dumbkopf is more like
Submitted by NL207 on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 12:27am.
Dumbkopf is more like it.
You and Whoopi believe the Japanese people were not aligned with their Emeperor and military in this matter? Later events in the war do not bear out this assumptoin.
Why would you believe this nonsense any more than believe Hitler, Stalin or Mussolini were not backed by their people in 1939 when the war started in Europe. In fact, about the ONLY leadership that did not enjoy the support of it populace at the outset of WWII was the Neville Chamberlain cabinet in Britain, who were immediately ousted and replaced by Winston Churchill and his cabinet when war came.
C'mon
Submitted by troglodyt on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 4:37am.
If German at all than don't mix it with English. Dummkopf.
You and Whoopi believe the Japanese people were not aligned with their Emeperor and military in this matter?
Whoopi seems to make that distinction. I think that it is nitpicky and overly PC. In short: I don't have a problem with the phrase. The headline made me expect something really nutty, like Germans in Japanese disguise. Or Aliens. Or something
who were immediately ousted and replaced by Winston Churchill and his cabinet when war came.
Now is the time to be nitpicky: It took them more than 8 months to replace Chamberlain.
"I think that it is nitpicky
Submitted by NL207 on Fri, 11/26/2010 - 12:42am.
"I think that it is nitpicky and overly PC" ... which is how you are avoiding the issue. Whoopi is dead wrong about this and so are you. The salient point is JAPAN carried out the attack, not just the 'Japanese Military'.
How fast can a parlaimentary democracy replace its leadership and still be a democracy? The Brits did this in 8 months, which is astonishing speed. In America, a constitutional republic, we'd have to wait for the next election and that might be close to 4 years. In the case of WWII, we entered in December 1941. Roosevelt could not have been replaced electorally prior to Jan 20, 1945 should we have chosen to do so.
As far as Deutsch is concerned, I will ask your indulgence in regional dialects. We are Northerners, Plattdeutsch speakers, and have a lot of what you will call problems with German over here at our place. The dialect I understand is an obsolete form of Plattdeutsch from BEFORE the Kaiser zeit and has much in common with English. My spouse speaks all three, Hochdeutsch, Plattdeutsch and English. Particularly susceptible to error from your perspective are the many words that are the same in both English and German. 'Dumb' or 'dum' or 'dumm' depending on dialect, is one of them.
NL207
Submitted by troglodyt on Mon, 11/29/2010 - 12:31pm.
And how can you be dead wrong about an issue when you are technically correct. I'm slightly confused.
The Plattdeutsch dictionary I consulted doesn't have an entry with "dumb". In my experience the "b" at the end doesn't fit into that dialect anyway, but I'm not an expert. And now I have to ask: Where do you live that you are in so much contact with German?
You need look no further than
Submitted by Barack_must_go..... on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 3:22pm.
You need look no further than the way Miss Goldberg dresses to answer all of your questions you foolishly thought you wanted to ask her.
This woman obviously lives to the beat of a different drummer. Unfortunately that drummer is dumber than a piece of wood that just smoked crack.
Her speaking to world events outside of her little cloistered existence, gives an ( ass ) whole new meaning and understanding of the inner workings and goings on over at " The View ".
Barack_Must_Go.....
Japanese didn't bomb Pearl Harbor
Submitted by ckc1227 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 3:30pm.
Now ask her who attacked Iraq and Afghanistan.
Idiot's delight
Submitted by Herbster on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 3:31pm.
Goethe said, "There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action." Truly frightful is the fact that this imbecile gets airtime to spout her ignorance. She epitomizes the continuing dumbing down of our culture and sense of history. When a large segment of the public looks to a "Comedian," (Stewart) as a news source, we are in trouble. When the cretins that sit in the audience of, "The view," clap and cheer the harridans on the panel, we are in trouble. When the media dutifully covers up and enables for our incompetent President, we are in trouble. O'Reilly should be ashamed of himself for giving a voice to this low class, ignorant, anti-semitic, anti-American creature. Problematic too, is the fact that our children in the government/union schools are taught the same claptrap that whoopie cushion spouts day in and day out.
Pray for our nation.
Typica;
Submitted by Utherpend on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 3:47pm.
And this is why we are screening every person in America when they go thru an airport instead of the people who are actually committing the acts of terrorism. People with the warped view of the world like Whoopi actually think that if they make everyone equal that the world is better. It hasnt worked since they started this theory in the 60s and it continues to fail.
Those poor Japanese pilots....
Submitted by Forbus on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 4:03pm.
strapped into their Zeros....unable to override the controls...forced to participate and watch that military infamy perpetrated by their country's Air Force.
Those poor Japinese civilans!
Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 8:56pm.
What about those poor Japanese civilians who were forced to work in the factories that produced the planes, bombs, bullies, aircraft carriers, fuel, food, clothing, ect, that was used by the "Army" in the attack , never mind the innocent civilians that were forced to serve in the Navy, who actually made the attack. I'm sure that the Japanese "Army" had each and every innocent civilian chained to their work areas, guns drawn, ready to shoot any who opposed the military.
Ok, I know that didn't actually happen, that the majority of civilian population openly and willingly supported the Japanese government and it's military, but, and here's the sad part, there are people like Whoopi who seem to actually believe that this what happened, that the War Japan started with America was in opposition to the "wishes" of the majority of Japanese civilians.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
Well said Cobra
Submitted by Denny Crane on Fri, 11/26/2010 - 12:20am.
Interesting too, that the small minority in Japan that did object to the war were arrested, imprisoned, property taken away, etc...
"Lib free or die"
We Are The 53%
No one mentioned
Submitted by Tugboat Phil on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 4:18pm.
Whoopi, allow me to finish your sentence, from the transcript:
GOLDBERG: But when you say Muslims killed us, when you don't specify. It's like saying whenever I see black men coming down the street, I'm scared. That's the same thing Jesse Jackson said a few years ago!I dunno about you guys, but
Submitted by killa37 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 7:43pm.
I dunno about you guys, but if I saw Whoopsie Goldbrick coming down the street, I"D be scared!!!!!
Oh, and I think Boy Blunder said something very similiar about his 'typical white person' grandmother..................the same one he had put under lock and key once he was selected to become the President!!!
Huh?
Submitted by Pappadave on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 4:23pm.
Let's see if I get this straight. One (or a dozen) nut-jobs in Florida decide to publicly burn the Q'uran as a form of (legal) protest and it's perfectly understandable that the Muslim world reacts with outrage and violence against America and Americans. But, if several thousand Muslim jihadists commit the worst sort of atrocities--flying airliners into buildings, beheading captives on camera, blowing up our embassies, putting bombs on their kids and sending them into Israel-- if WE object to their bringing that barbarity into our country, we're being "unreasonable?" As brother Bugs would say, "What a maroon!"
O'REILLY: New study today,
Submitted by Smartypants on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 5:30pm.
O'REILLY: New study today, Jews in America are far more likely to be persecuted than Muslims, just came out today.
GOLDBERG: You know what? I'm sure that someone believes that, but I believe that in neighborhoods where they don't want Muslims, they beat up kids.
This exchange says it all. In the liberal mind (and I use the word mind loosely in Goldberg's case), it is all about how we feel.
So, there is no curiosity about the study O'Reilly references; it's immediately all about feelings. Yet, the issue of whether Jews or Muslims are more persecuted in this country has nothing to do with feelings, nothing whatsoever. Either Jews are persecuted more or Muslims are persectued more. It may be difficult to measure, but there is still a method for doing so. O'Reilly references such a method, and there is no interest by Goldberg. There is no intellectual curiosity on her part in the least. She is walking around with the same thought processes in her head that she had as a child.
Why?
Submitted by Captain Betty on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 5:37pm.
Why do we continue to care what these idiots say?! Seriously. Can we just let them fade away? If you ignore them, you reduce their traffic. And if you reduce their traffic, they'll just fade away and be crazy from the comfort of their own basement. Sheesh.
I'm tired of constant stories on morons from The View and Olbermann and every other lib/commie that has fewer than 10 viewers. Let them go.
If You Please...
Submitted by fstaff on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 6:46pm.
Such a significant event must be accurately termed: A six carrier striking task force of the Imperial Japanese Navy launched the attacks of 7 December 1941.
They ALL "beat up kids," except for the Jews.
Submitted by CobraMan on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 6:54pm.
"You know what? I'm sure that someone believes that, but I believe that in neighborhoods where they don't want Muslims, they beat up kids."
Hay, Whoopi, what happens to white kids in the black neighborhoods "where they don't want" those white kids? Answer: they get beat up.
What happens in Jews in Muslim neighborhoods? Same answer.
What happens to Muslims, or Christians or Blacks, or Latinos,or anyone else for that matter, in Jewish neighborhoods? NOTHING!
Shouldn't that tell you something?
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States. The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus. The US Supreme Court
Or Anwar al-Awlaki.
whoopie-to-do
Submitted by markprice1983 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 7:13pm.
Say, wasn't Whoopi editor of the Harvard Law Review?
When an idiot lib says
Submitted by sherlock1 on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 8:35pm.
You know what? I'm sure that someone believes that, but I believe that in neighborhoods where they don't want Muslims, they beat up kids. Instead of trying to "reason" with them, someone should just ask "What the hell does that even mean? I cite you a research finding, and you respond with what you believe as if it was an argument, even though it is based on your beliefs and nothing else? Do you have any facts to offer, or not?"When this gal said she didn't
Submitted by Ashrak on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 8:50pm.
When this gal said she didn't know what a madrassa was, I thought it to be a joke at first. I thought for sure she was going to come forth with some comdeic line about this, that or the other. But she really didn't know.
And then the Japanese deal. Just wow. Oblivious she is, without doubt. Jihad schools I can understand her being uninformed about. But Japan? Seriously.
Now for the dripping irony.
The most collectivist among us are the very ones screaming not to paint with a broad brush. The ones screaming diversity the most and enlightenment the most are the least educated and hollow souls out there.
Whoopi made a fool of herself, again, and ABC is making a fool of itself giving her the platform it does. For me, I am happy they do. The more the idiocy can be exposed, the better.
Ya see, she prolly knows a couple Muslims and they are prolly really good folks because they are not stone age barbarians living under strict Sharia there entire lives. On that note, whoopi is guilty of the very thing she hammer Bill for. SHe paints all Muslims as the good guys and it just ain't so.
Until the time that terrorists acts draw outrage in the mighty "Arab Street" like cartoons do, more than cartoons do, the world's people will view the vast majority of Muslims as agreeable to the terrorism. And it make no difference is Whoopi wants to live in la la land where she can think it otherwise.
So all those Zeros, Kates and Vals circling Pearl that morning
Submitted by Dave. on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 9:32pm.
...with meatballs painted on their wings and fuselages, and that I have seen pictures of that were taken on the day of the attack, weren't actually sent by Tojo.
Hmm...must have been Stalin, then.
LOL - I bet Whoopi is one of those government "educated" idiots who thinks we fought Russia and France in WW II to save Europe from the Swiss. :-^)
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Bill and Whoopie: Not so odd couple
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 1:02am.
O'Reilly yet again proves he is only slightly less ignorant than Goldberg. Of course it is fair and appropriate to say Pearl Harbor was attacked by the Japanese [but the Imperial navy, Bill and Whoopie, not the army or air force, you idiots]. However, to equate that with a description of the 9/11 attacks as having been perpetrated by Muslims or Islamists advances a false--or at least distorted--equivalency. It would be somewhat akin to depicting the Japanese aggression and German war declaration against the USA during December of 1941 as, in the former case, an attack by Shinto/Buddhists and, in the latter, an act (predominantly) committed by Catholics. Just because the religious fanatics who crashed planes into the WTC were not flying the flag of a single or sovereign nation does not relieve us of the responsibility of specificity in the identification of the author of that singular terror. And it is not the entire religion of Islam which should be or must be branded as our "enemy"--for God's sake, how many times must George Bush remind us of that fact before it finally seeps into our consciousness?--but rather the radical militants who have warped its message and embraced terror to redeem it.
One more point: While O'Reilly is correct in the statistical ratios with regard to anti-Jewish vs. anti-Moslem hate crimes in toto, he fails to note that for the year in question [2009], the number of aggravated assaults against Muslims actually exceeded those against Jews. That's not to say the importance of the overall statistics is or should be diminished. Nevertheless that omission was still significant to the dialogue. But then O'Reilly has always been a master at denying spin while actively engaging in it.
Jer
oops...please disregard the "e" I added to "Whoopi
update #2: I should amend the reference to "[predominantly] Catholics" in Germany. Although Christianity was indeed pervasive, Protestants actually outnumbered Roman Catholics. And to further clarify, although top Nazis like Hitler and Goebbels were Catholic, the former altar boy (Hitler) had long since strayed from the tenets of the faith.
"Of course it is fair and
Submitted by NL207 on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 1:27am.
"Of course it is fair and appropriate to say Pearl Harbor was attacked by the Japanese [but the Imperial navy, Bill and Whoopie, not the army or air force, you idiots]. "
The surprise attack was not just at Pearl Harbor and O'Reilly was surely not confining his comments to the Pearl Harbor attack alone. The Japanese also simultaneously attacked American soil all over the Pacific basin in places such as the Phillipines, Wake, and Guam and our ships operating in Phillipine and Dutch East Indies waters. They attacked the British, Australians and Dutch at the same time. The assault on the Phillipines in particular, was carried out by the Japanese Army. Had the Japanese not attacked Pearl Harbor at all, but still attacked all of these other places, war would have been declared anyway.
So who is the idiot? I vote for the smarmy, hair spitting lawyer in this case.
Now tell me this : How do you know WHICH Islamists we are fighting and which we are not? I think everyone that tries to believe we are not at war with all Islam is simply deluding themselves. This war did not begin in 2001. Our national awareness of it most certainly peeked after 9-11, but the war and the attacks on our nation and our flag by these 7th century vermin have been ongoing since before the present Republic was founded. In fact, this war has been ongoing nearly continuously since 602 AD, when Muhammad first started it. It will not end until one of three things occurs : (1) Islam enslaves the world. (2) The last Islamist draws his last breath (3) Islam undergoes a universal reformation. I think #3 is less liely than me beinf struck by lightning tomorrow. #2 will never happen as long as Islam has apologists like you amongst its foes. Unless things in the West change significantly, #1 is inevitable given the passage of enough time.
The smarmy lawyer knows very
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 1:44am.
The smarmy lawyer knows very well the Japanese attacks were multi-targeted and well-coordinated. Hell MacArthur should have been court-martialed for leaving our aircraft parked unprotectesd on the runways at Clark? Field and be virtually wiped out by Japanese air assaults. Noel specifically referred to the Pearl Harbor attack, but I do note that O'Reilly didn't--although I would bet the ranch that is exactly what he had in mind. BOR hasn't impressed me as a very apt student of history.
Jer
Apparently I must not have
Submitted by NL207 on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 1:55am.
Apparently I must not have addressed the question of whether we are at war with all of Islam or just a few extremists.
The U.S. Army aircraft at Clark Field---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 1:57am.
were not left unprotected; they were, however, parked proximate to one another to better guard against ground level attack.
That was indeed a mistake, which resulted in tremendous damage being done by air attack.
MD
Even so, Matthew...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 2:16am.
I believe the only viable threat at that time was from the air, not the ground, and MacArthur--already aware of the attack at Pearl--should have known that and acted accordingly.
Jer
Obviously, Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 2:21am.
You believe differently than Old Dugout Doug did.
Despite what Plan Orange posited, confusion reigned.
Could have been a lot worse.
MD
Maybe so, md... but in the
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 2:30am.
Maybe so, md... but in the first few weeks of the war, it's hard to imagine how it could have been much worse.
Jer
Dude?
Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 2:35am.
I coulda swore the attacks were near simultaneous. December 8th in the Philippines, across the dateline, was December 7th in Hawaii.
Ahhh. 9 hours difference.
Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 2:43am.
Dude? Were the aircraft dispersed? You are so mean to MacArthur.
Another unresolved question is why the warning of approaching Japanese aircraft did not reach the bomber commander at Clark Field in time to meet the attack. All forces in the Philippines had knowledge of the attack on Pearl Harbor hours before the first Japanese bombers appeared over Luzon. A dawn raid at Davao had given notice that the Japanese had no intention of bypassing the archipelago. The early morning bombings on Luzon gave even more pointed warning that an attack against the major airbase in the Islands could be expected. Colonel Campbell testifies that Clark Field had received word of the approaching Japanese aircraft before the attack. Colonel Eubank states that no such warning was ever received. Other officers speak of the breakdown of commu-
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nications at this critical juncture. There is no way of resolving this conflicting testimony.
Assuming that Colonel Eubank did not receive the warning from Nielson Field, there still remains one final question. Were the aircraft on the field adequately dispersed for wartime condition? It is not possible to state definitely how the aircraft were dispersed when they came in at 1130. There surely must have been some recognition of the danger of an enemy air attack at any moment. The Japanese state that they were "surprised to find the American aircraft lined up on the field."54 And at least one flight of four B-17's was lined neatly on the field when the Japanese came over. Captain Ind tells of finding photographs, one of which was taken by an American pilot flying over the field, showing the planes inadequately dispersed for any but high-level bombing attacks. "This entire set of photographs," he says, "was removed from my desk a few nights later. No one seemed to know what had happened to them."55 This question, like the others, remains unanswered.
The full story of the events which preceded the Japanese air attacks against the Far East Air Force on the first day of the war will probably never be known. There was no time for reports, and if any records ever existed they have since been lost. The historian must rely on the memories of participants whose stories conflict at numerous points. General Arnold, eight years after the event, wrote that he was never able "to get the real story of what happened in the Philippines." Brereton's diary, in his opinion, did not provide "a complete and accurate account," and General Sutherland's story "does not completely clear it up, by any means."56
Vet...re MacArthur
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 3:13am.
That's the only WWII "problem" I've ever had with MacArthur--Korea's another story--but I'll take another look at it and see if perhaps I've been unnecessarily critical. On balance, I hold MacArthur in very high regard.
Jer
The date is December 1941.
Submitted by NL207 on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 8:31am.
The date is December 1941. War had come to Europe in Sept 1939. Since that time the Axis advance had been marked by the works of spies and saboteurs paving the way for Nazi / Fascist and yes, Soviet, military aggression. Names like Quisling had become household words synonymous with treason and sabotage.
The aircraft were dispositioned so as to best guard them from destruction by saboteurs. At the time, Japanese fighter planes were not thought to be a threat because nobody in the US chain of command knew or had any appreciation for the great range of the Zero. They had all erroneously evaluated the design in European terms, not realizing the Japanese had sacrificed the weight of pilot armor and self-sealing fuel tanks for range and maneuverabilty. Proof : Gen. Claire Chennault was all but driven from the ranks for daring to suggest otherwise.
NL...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 1:55am.
If the statement that the "entire religion shouldn't be regarded as our enemy" is your applicable metric for labeling one an Islamic apologist, then I am not even in the same league with George Bush who stated it far more often and far more emphatically than I.
Jer
The Bush remarks in question
Submitted by NL207 on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 2:04am.
The Bush remarks in question are Islamist apologetics. If you disagree with Bush, then why do you quote him to support your argument? I
Because, NL... there are a
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 2:10am.
Because, NL... there are a number of things with which I agree with Bush. That's one of them.
Jer
And this particular point on
Submitted by NL207 on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 8:35am.
And this particular point on which you agree with Bush is apologizing for Islam at large. You are doing it. Own it. And in particular, don't blow smoke up my arse about not doing it when I can plainly see you are.
Nice post Uncle Jer.
Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 1:45am.
Too bad you kinda ruined it by calling O'Reilly ignorant. Oh well...
I don't believe Mr O'Reilly is saying is saying anything about the entire religion. He said Muslims. That is, plural of a Muslim. Or like saying males. If you were to say, 19 males attacked us on 9/11, that would be true and not an indictment of all maledom. As opposed to say - Males attacked us 9/11. Now that is saying all males
Oh, dude, the Shinto/Buddhists, poor. Yes, the comparison to December 7th, 1941 is bad. But your comparison is also off. The Japanese did have an underlying cohesion, their duty as Japanese nationals. The 9/11 perpetrators came from different countries. Their underlying cohesion, their belief in dying for Allah.
Dude. Sorry. It was Muslims that attacked us on 9/11/2001. It was also males. Yeah, that is lame huh? It was also terrorists. But that don't really describe it fully. It was loons. Lame. It was killers. Ahhh. Nope. It was Muslims. And they have never stopped trying. To. This. Day.
We got this loon here. Dead Zippers. We call him nwahs. He whines in nearly every single post he is not nwahs. When the Muslim religion rises up in that same exact annoying manner and proclaims over and over they are not killers. Say, then, then let's revisit this topic and maybe change how we address the whole thing. Until then... Muslims. 19 individual Muslims coordinating into 4 teams in order to kill in the name of Allah.
Sincerely,
A Veteran of a 1000 Psychic Wars
PS: Let's stay away from the gratuitious slurs when posting well thought out postings.
Also. Navy is capitalized.
I know it is a crutch but let's go to the dictionary.
Muslim : an adherent of Islam. (MW) See. An individual adherent. Mr. O'Reilly is correct.Sorry, Vet...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 1:47am.
But I just never have been much of a fan of Mr. O, and sometimes I just can't help myself.
Jer
Fret not, Jer
Submitted by Dave. on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 1:57am.
...as I can stand about five minutes of BOR - as long as three of those minutes are eaten up by commercials.
However, I do give him very high marks for going after child sexual predators and their enablers, as much of the media seems so inexplicably unwilling to do so.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Dave...
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 2:06am.
You're right about his firm stand on the child predator issue and his frequent and aggressive reporting on it deserves praise. Plus, I really haven't watched him much for the past couple of years, so there may be other areas in which I might see eye to eye with him as well. But for most of the 8 or 9 years I watched him pretty regularly, I had the constant urge to hurl something heavy through the TV screen during his show.
Jer
Jer,
Submitted by Dave. on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 2:17am.
LOL - All I have left in the den that is tossable is pillows (I burried the bricks in the backyard), as I am down to my last three working TVs (one of which I have wrapped up in the attic), as I can't afford to replace one right now.
-Dave
Vote for the American in November
Another thing. They were not terrorists.
Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 2:25am.
...radical militants who have warped its message and embraced terror to redeem it.
They were not terrorists. They were not trying to strike terror in our hearts. This was a coordinated 3 prong attack on the (perceived) 3 pillars of western society. Financial (World TRADE center), Military (Pentagon) and the White House (Political). It was a strike at the Great Satan in the hopes it would bring about a collapse or Allah himself would see and bring about the collapse.
So terrorists is not even close to being an apt description.
Nor can radical really describe them. All of Islam sects still believe the Koran is the direct word of Allah. It is why they get so snippy when someone wants to burn one. So the Koran says to kill the infidel. They were just following what Allah says. Not radical at all.
militant. Hmmm.
1: engaged in warfare or combat : fighting 2: aggressively active (as in a cause) : combative <militant conservationists> <a militant attitude> But was militantism the common bond? Why were the engaged in warfare or combat? What drew them together to engage in warfare? Their common belief in dying for Allah. They were Muslims.I don't know, Vet... I
Submitted by Jer on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 3:03am.
I don't know, Vet...
I think the terrorist terminology is debatable at least, despite the co-ordination of the attacks and an indiputable logic behind the selection of targets. But an acknowledgement of a rational and organiized plan--and I do acknowledge it--still doesn't, in my opinion, render underlying terrorist objectives moot or irrelevant or an inappropriate description.
The Bush administration and the American public exhibited a remarkable resiliency, but to say there was no terror, no terrorism, and no terrorists associated with the attacks or our immediate reaction to them--and that it was not even a goal of the perpetrators--is a tough argument to maintain.
I think the Islamic religion in many ways is still mired in mideval theology and behavior, and there are many nominal moderates who should be required to answer for not just tolerating but too often enabling the continuing grave threat the radical elements pose to civilized societies. But if the invariable, unqualified command to all "devout" muslims is to kill the infidel, thank God there are apparently millions of heretics in the ranks
Jer
We are gonna disagree.
Submitted by The Vet on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 6:36am.
This was an attempted coup with the reult intending to be our collapse. They only knew Arab governments and did not realize the resilency of the American system.
There was no terror intended on 9/11/2001. Other times yes. Such as the embassy bombings. 9/11 no. The intent was the collapse of the American system.
"I reject your reality and
Submitted by Thunder Lizard on Wed, 11/24/2010 - 11:20pm.
"I reject your reality and substiute my own" Whoopi
Why didn't O'Reilly start
Submitted by Chris Norman on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 1:04am.
Why didn't O'Reilly start screaming "Liar!" at "Whopper" Goldberg like he did Barney Frank when Frank lied through his teeth? I guess it's because Frank doesn't have a show on ABC that O"Reilly wants to be on again. So, he held himself back at Goldberg's utterly disingenous stupidity.
No such thing as a moderate
Submitted by sablegsd on Thu, 11/25/2010 - 11:18pm.
No such thing as a moderate muslim. They are all about intolerance, misogny, child molesting and domination. They are the worst examples of humankind. I wonder why the women I saw on video being stoned to death and beheaded didn't have those disgusting, dehumanizing rags on their heads.
Whoopie /Oreilly
Submitted by Theporch on Fri, 11/26/2010 - 11:47am.
And of course BIll gives her a pass as he does nicey nicey with her. Wants back on the view to sell books.
Where are the Muslims who stand up against terrorism?
Submitted by Okieflyover on Fri, 11/26/2010 - 7:02pm.
I will hold my judgement against all Muslims, but it has been 10 years and we are still waiting for a Muslim leader to stand up against terrorists.
So Whoopi wants to paint all white people as terrorists because of OKC but any discussion of Muslims who might be terrorists is "profiling" all Muslims?
As Bill Said, that is a "pretty thin hair".
Lastly, both Whoopi and Behar confirm that you don't have to be Smart to be a "Smart-a$$"
She loses what little credibility she had....
Submitted by Okieflyover on Fri, 11/26/2010 - 7:09pm.
When she made her stupid argument about Japan. A close second in stupidity comes when she states she did not know what a Madrasas is but she claims to be some champion of the Muslims.
Some people think Whoopi is a
Submitted by mostlymoderate on Sat, 11/27/2010 - 5:20am.
Some people think Whoopi is a Jew and therefore is free to discuss issues relating Jews. Do a little research and you will learn that Whoopi is on the record in stating that she changed her last name to "Goldberg" because she thought a Jewish sounding name would get her more roles in Hollywood.
Just think about what a low-life Whoopi must be to do something like that.
My bad.
Submitted by Joe the Cop on Sat, 11/27/2010 - 9:35pm.
I was writing as a former fan from her early HBO days, The Color Purple, and ST: TNG. I had gotten into my head from an interview or profile that she converted at some point in life. From her imdb page: "She added the name Goldberg, taken from the Jewish side of her family." (NOTE: This should have gone around #6 in this thread. Entry error on my part.)