Juan Williams Strikes Back: Here's What You CAN Say on NPR Without Getting Fired
Juan Williams struck back at his former employers on Friday by pointing out the hypocrisy of him being fired for his comments about Muslims when others at NPR have said far worse without receiving any disciplinary action whatsoever.
Filling in for the regular host of Fox's "The O'Reilly Factor," Williams gave the radio station he dutifully represented the past ten years a well-deserved piece of his mind (video follows with transcript and commentary):
JUAN WILLIAMS: In the "Impact Segment" tonight, my thoughts on the NPR situation. Political correctness, character assassination and intolerance at National Public Radio, that's the subject of this evening's talking points memo.
As many of you know after 10 years of being a loyal employee, NPR fired me for expressing the fear I now feel after 9/11 when I see people in Muslim garb getting on an airplane. This controversy is now front and center in the national discussion.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIPS)
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS (ABC): Firing fallout. Juan Williams says he was just telling the truth about his fear of flying with Muslims, a confession that got him fired from NPR.
MATT LAUER (NBC): Good morning. Making waves are National Public Radio under fire for canning news analyst Juan Williams. He says he was fired for telling the truth. Did NPR overreact? This morning, we'll hear from both sides.
CHRIS WRAGGE (CBS): Static on the airwaves: National Public Radio comes under heavy criticism after it fires news analyst Juan Williams for comments he made about Muslims on airplanes.
(END VIDEO CLIPS)
WILLIAMS: My comments about my feelings supposedly crossed this line. Some line somewhere. That crossed a line? But, let me tell you what you can say on National Public Radio without losing your job.
Nina Totenberg wished that Senator Jesse Helms and his grandchildren would get AIDS -- I said would get AIDS. She's still working there.
A so-called humorist on NPR said the world would be a better place if 4 million Christians evaporated. Hilarious.
And calling millions of members of the Tea Party movement a sexual pejorative, tea baggers won't get you in hot water either.
So it seems some opinions are more equal than others at NPR.
Laura Ingraham pointed out last night on this show that any minority, but especially a black person, is not allowed to be anything but a liberal. If they stray off the farm, they are demonized, their skills are trashed. I used to think the left wing was the home of tolerance, open- mindedness, respect for all viewpoints. But now, I have learned the truth the hard way.
You see, NPR didn't just fire me. Its CEO Vivian Schiller also leveled a vicious smear against me yesterday.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
VIVIAN SCHILLER, NPR PRESIDENT AND CEO: Juan feels the way he feels, that is not for me to judge -- to pass judgment on. That is really his feelings that he expressed on FOX News are really between him and his -- you know, psychiatrist or his publicist or take your pick. But it is not compatible with a news analyst on -- with the role of a news analyst on NPR's air.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
WILLIAMS: Have you no shame, Madam? You and your far-left mob fired me. Wasn't that enough for you? You have to try to assassinate my character, too?
For the record, Ms. Schiller issued a so-called apology to the press. Not a word to me. And that probably tells you everything you need to know about her.
And that's the memo.
Nicely said, Juan.
Bravo.
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Comments
Maybe
Submitted by StarAZ on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 1:06pm.
Juan was running a little hot last night, in my humble--but he's entitled.
He damn well was entitled!
Submitted by motherbelt on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 2:06pm.
Juan found out the hard way what conservatives have known for years: that for a liberal, it's never enough to just disagree with someone; they have to call that someone stupid, or insane, or downright evil.
He also found out that some opinions are, indeed, more equal than others. I'll bet if he had said that he was uncomfortable around a group of nuns wearing habits, that would have been OK too.
It's a shame that NPR knuckled under to CAIR...Schiller even used the same reasoning that the CAIR letter did...that Juan wasn't a good "fit" for NPR.
I agree
Submitted by vaboxrboy on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 5:27pm.
But if he had kept his mouth shut just for a few days he might've come out looking like a gentleman instead of looking petty and so eager to bite the hand which fed him. I didn't have much respect for him before and even less now. He's a martyr for Fox so good for him.
lol
Submitted by amyshulk on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 7:16pm.
Ever been fired? IT HURTS! I can't even *imagine* what Juan is going through, and I think he has NOT tipped over into martyrdom at all!!
I usually disagree with him, but I do think he's a class act.
Ronald Reagan
Like so many here, ---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 10:03pm.
I seldom agree with Juan Williams, but he has never not come across as a gentleman.
Juan Williams earned the money he was paid by NPR, so did not bite the hand that "fed" him, but rather fed himself.
Neither did he look petty; and had he not stood up for himself and commented as he did, he would have appeared feckless.
MD
A perfect gentleman
Submitted by djm159 on Sun, 10/24/2010 - 5:35pm.
Juan Williams looks like a perfect gentleman with a soul. I agree with very little that Juan says - in fact I have been known to lob a shoe in the direction of the TV when he is on. However, when someone bites you it is more than okay to bite back with the truth. NPR is an indoctrination organization run by George Soros and the Juan Williams firing has Soros written all over it. A former Nazi sympathizer, Soros, contributes 1.8 million to NPR. I guess we now know what that will buy. They should and in all likelihood will be defunded and they should be. Leave indoctrination to the Soros machine, he's good at it. He learned alot while working for the Nazis. Birds of a feather - Soros, Obama, NPR, Clinton, etc., etc., etc.
The thing is....
Submitted by ThisnThat on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 1:35pm.
NPR doesn't regret this firing. They are the epitomy of intellectual snobs, being carried away by their fanatical intolerant agenda that leaves no room whatsoever for anyone to deviate from the agenda.
And then to fire him over the phone!
And to not apologize to him for their insults to him!
It's like when Japan bomed Pearl Harbor. They thought they won. NPR and the leftists are about to learn a painful truth.
__________
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Racists to the left of me
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 1:35pm.
Notice that the majority of the racists are on the left. The KKK, La Raza, Black Panthers, New Black Panthers, FALN, Jackson, Sharpton, Farrakhan, Wright. Now NPR can join the mob. I could go on.
DFTT...KKK leftist? BWAHAHAHA
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 3:40pm.
Where I grew up in the 50's and 60's--and I feel sure it still holds true--if you called a member of the KKK a "leftist", you better be prepared to have the ever-lovin' snot beat out of you.
Jer
Well, from what I can tell,
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 10:03pm.
Well, from what I can tell, the KKK was started by white Democrat Communist-leaning types........unless I've read it wrong...........so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch to call them 'leftists'.........but maybe they didn't like the sound of it, since they probably thought they were 'rightists', or something.
Let's not forget that most of those southern states were run by Democrats, who were the ones mainly voting against 'civil rights'. Of course, with our revisionist history, for some reason the story comes out that the evil Republican white men were, and ARE, holding down the 'black man'.......when it wouldn't be hard to make the case that the libs and the Democrat party is primarliy responsible for the destruction of a majority of 'black' families, and putting them under vast dependance on the state and federal government........and it's obviously still going on today.
You mean Bedford Forrest and
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 10:34pm.
You mean Bedford Forrest and other ex-Confederates were actually commies?
If you say so. I learn something new every day at NewsBusters.
Jer
Well, maybe not at it's
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 10:54pm.
Well, maybe not at it's inception......you're right about that. But I've got a pretty good article - somewhere on my computer - about the subtle infiltraton during the 1900's, but I'm knee deep in paperwork today, so I don't have time to go looking for it. I think 'subtle communism', or whatever other name it can be called, has infiltrated a LOT of our society and government functions..........to the point where it is staring us right in the face today, and it's time for - as Boy Blunder so aptly put it recently - 'hand to hand combat'..................
Commies?
Submitted by m1xram on Sun, 10/24/2010 - 3:46am.
Don't know about commies, but the KKK was a big Democrat thing. Were the Democrats leftists in the 50s and 60s? I'm not sure but they certainly didn't believe we were all equal. So you wouldn't describe them as Constitutionalists. Things haven't changed much in all those years.
The opposite of Left is Freedom.
Well, as you know, the whole
Submitted by killa37 on Sun, 10/24/2010 - 2:50pm.
Well, as you know, the whole 'equality' thing is a relative term with the Communists............that's a know fact.
Well, the KKK grew out of the
Submitted by DontFeedTheTrolls on Sun, 10/24/2010 - 9:28am.
Well, the KKK grew out of the southern democrats in order to intimidate and keep the blacks, Jews, foreigners and Catholics in line. I only call them leftists because they are part and parcel of the leftist Democrats. An aside here, both the New Black Panthers and the KKK backed Obama in 2008, although, as you can imagine, for different reasons.
The KKK is not now nor has it
Submitted by Jer on Tue, 11/02/2010 - 9:15pm.
The KKK is not now nor has it ever been "leftist" or "liberal" in orientation, and any one of its members would absolutely fly into a sputtering rage if accused of being so. Historically, they have been predominantly--but not exclusively--Democrats, although definitely not part and parcel of the "leftist" Democrats.
Jer
Brilliant Juan
Submitted by CoolShades on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 1:51pm.
Brilliant Juan. I love the emotion and slamming all the key points in one nice little memo.
BTW, how's the fundraising coming along at NPR?
Soros
Submitted by m1xram on Sun, 10/24/2010 - 3:50am.
Soros still signs the checks for....
Normative Progressive Reporting
an arm of the larger multi_news group American Pravda.
The opposite of Left is Freedom.
"Teab***ers"
Submitted by Icarus on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 1:59pm.
It's still absolutely hilarious that Tea Party activists and sympathizers would be offended by being called that. And it's supposed to be Williams' counterpoint to him saying he's afraid to fly with Muslims?
Rich stuff.
Let's leave aside your
Submitted by motherbelt on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 2:09pm.
Let's leave aside your ridiculous counterpoint assessment for a moment: why don't you explain why people should NOT be offended at being called a Teabagger?
~Tacit admission
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 2:15pm.
Considering that he spelled it with asterisks, I don't think he can claim it isn't offensive.
I don't think IT
Submitted by gfrrman on Sun, 10/24/2010 - 12:51am.
knows how to spell...
g
Better yet. As I ask anyone
Submitted by metaphorsbwithu on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 2:24pm.
Better yet.
As I ask anyone who uses the term in front of me.
What would you tell a young child if he or she said, "Everyone at school says teabagging is bad, they but won't tell me what it is. What's teabagging, Daddy (or Mommy)?"
delete.
Submitted by motherbelt on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 2:31pm.
delete.
You could say "Well, Bobby
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 4:46pm.
You could say "Well, Bobby [or Suzy], it was originally used as a harmless description of members of the Tea Party movement, many of whom were adopting the 'tea bag' for a symbol because of its connection with the "Boston Tea Party" and the American colonists' struggle for independence from England.
However, it was later pointed out that--while most people were unaware of it--the term also was slang for a sexual act and was therefore offensive.
In other words, I would tell them the truth.
Jer
Dude? Really? Come on. Serious? No. Serious?
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 5:12pm.
Wait. I get it. No. Oh... Wait. You are serious?
I knew what the term referred to in 1985 when it was identified as something you would do to a guy that was passed out drunk and I thought, Dude, Uncle Jer, drunks can still clamp down on something in their mouth.
Nineteen-friggin-Eighty-friggin-Five.
WE ARE NOT CHILDREN. DON'T TREAT US LIKE WE ARE.
I went through this with nwahs. One guy on fox held up a tea bag. ONE website out of THOUSANDS said to tea bag Congress.
I KNEW THE SECOND IT CAME UP.
IT WAS NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER a harmless description.
AND
AND
AND
AND
AND AND AND AND
The whole tea bag thing was quickly dropped when people realized that tea bags break in the mail and Congressmen getting an envelope filled with a loose powder got jumpy right fast.
Sorry, Vet, I guess I and
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 5:19pm.
Sorry, Vet, I guess I and most Americans were/are babes in the woods, because the surveys I saw indicated the majority were not aware of the sexual pejorative connotation associated with the term.
That said, I agree that once it became known, it should have no longer been used and those who have done so to mock Tea Partiers deserve condemnation.
Jer
Ah ya big mug.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 5:23pm.
Ok. At least ya know now. See my next entry.
Hey, Jer
Submitted by 26CX on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 5:41pm.
What are the surveys you're referencing?
Thanks.
26CX...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 5:58pm.
I linked one of them many months ago when this issue was being hashed out. As soon as tracking and the the archives are fully restored, I'll repost it.
I can assure you the overwhelming majority of my parent's generation had never heard of it. Almost nobody I spoke with at the time had ever heard of it. And I believe that most who posted here were not familiar with it. NewsBusters is where I was first apprised of the sexual relevance and offensive nature of the term.
Jer
Thanks, Jer, but
Submitted by 26CX on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 6:11pm.
I'm still a little sceptical of your statements because there were people joking about teabagging where I was working in 2008.
Maybe our parents' generation didn't know about it, but I think based on direct observation that there were more than a few people in our generation (and the generation of the folks who orginally used it as a pejorative term for members of the tea party) who did.
26CX
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 6:16pm.
I don't doubt there were more than a few, but I seriously doubt it was a majority.
Jer
Okay then, Jer,
Submitted by 26CX on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 6:55pm.
I think what we've arrived at is that the people who were using "teabagger" as a pejorative term for members of the Tea Party knew exactly what they were saying and the majority of the rest of the people were too naive to know they were being insulted.
Sound about right?
One has to
Submitted by gfrrman on Sun, 10/24/2010 - 1:14am.
understand that Jer WAS THE teabag!!! Projection
G
Just so you know...
Submitted by Phryj1 on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 6:48pm.
The term "teabagging" is well known among players of first person shooter video games. In that context, it refers to the practice of taunting your opponents by making your character repeatedly crouch while standing on top of the head of the opponent character's dead body after scoring a kill. I will say that as a gamer, being the "teabagger" (the one taunting an opponent after a kill) is obviously much preferable to being the "teabag-ee". When used on younger, video game savvy conservatives, the term backfires as an insult.
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.
Thanks...since my parents
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 6:48pm.
Thanks...since my parents have never been shooter video gamers, I doubt they were aware of that particular alternative defintion either.
Jer
Yay!
Submitted by NewtypeConservative on Sun, 10/24/2010 - 12:58am.
I was hoping someone would mention that! I was dreading having to mention it myself, honestly. But, anyways, its safe to say that the vast majority of younger generations (especially the frat-boy subsection because Halo) knew what "it" meant, simply because of video-games and cultural osmosis.
It is just like this.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 5:20pm.
One guy on fox. One website out of thousands. One bad idea from a few people to send tea bags to Congress.
The serious people that organized and stood out there on the street were all about the TEA PARTY. Linking back to the actual TEA PARTY.
Now I will not look it up by I am fairly sure, in 1773 (thanks Sarah), tea did not come in bags anyways.
Tea was loose back then, and placed in Tea balls.
Crap.
I give up.
I don't think sending tea
Submitted by Outback Jon on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 10:01pm.
I don't think sending tea bags to Congress was a bad idea. Sending loose tea might have been. These days, an unidentified substance in an envelope (or in that case many envelopes) would have caused quite an incident.
On the bright side, it's better to be known as "teabaggers" than "teabaggees"...
That is the thing sir.
Submitted by The Vet on Sun, 10/24/2010 - 9:16am.
Stuff gets crushed in the mail. Those tea bags will break open in transit and teh Congressman gets an envelope filled with loose brown powder.
I remember at least one Congressman calling in the FBI.
Drivel! Slobbering
Submitted by metaphorsbwithu on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 8:09pm.
Drivel! Slobbering drivel.
The people who have used it so contemptously from the beginning know very well what they are referring to and have purposely continued using it in that way.
I myself did not know what it referred to initially, but I found out as soon as it began to be used by liberals across the web and the reason was explained - almost from day one.
There was nothing innocent about it and the TEA Party movement, being a spontaneous loosely organized movement, never declared itself as having it for a name.
It was assigned to them and the left encouraged its use.
I've said this many times to people who damn well knew what they meant when they used it in front of me and dared them to explain what was being spread across the airwaves purposely.
"It's just a joke," they'd say.
Well they'd better explain to their kids their dirty little joke because they'll find out on their own, hopefully act like an adult, stop acting like a juvenile for a change, and set an example that some things or not acceptable in civil descourse.
You are correct up to a
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 8:28pm.
You are correct up to a point, and beyond that point you're simply demonstrating stunning ignorance.
There have been a number of liberal pundits--such as Olbermann, Anderson Cooper, and Maddow--who quite obviously knew of the sexual connotation and used it to mock the Tea Partiers--although Cooper later apologized for his unprofessional behavior.
On the other hand, there have been instances where the speaker quite clearly did not know of the offensive implications of the term, used it innocently, but was wrongfully accused of intending it as a slur. Gwen Ifill, for example, is one who falls within this latter category.
And there is no question but the idea of using the tea bag as a symbol was initially promoted by those who were either closely associated with the movement or highly sympathetic with its aims.
Jer
Way too quick on the trigger , Jer---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 10:21pm.
with that "stunning ignorance" bit.
Especially since, as a lawyer, you absolutely understand that one cannot know what was in someones mind when they spoke the phrase originally; but as an intelligent person, you know as well that the main thrust for the phrase being continually put to use was in all likelihood meant in the demeaning way.
I, too, cannot make my statement unequivocably, but then again, I am not using the phrase "stunning ignorance" to describe someone who sees the situation differently.
MD
Maybe so, Matthew... But
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 10:28pm.
Maybe so, Matthew...
But when someone, with dramatic flair, deals out the "SLOBBERING DRIVEL" card, my trigger finger gets a little itchy.
Jer
Eh, no problem
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 11:57pm.
I'm a teabagger, and liberals are the teebaggees. They know the position, so lay down and open wide.
Thanks just the same, Restless...
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 10/24/2010 - 12:12am.
but I would rather be dipped in a barrel of honey and then staked to a mound crawling with one billion fire ants than accept your invitation.
Jer
[Nothing personal, though]
My gift to liberal humanity
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sun, 10/24/2010 - 12:25am.
I'm just offering. No strings attached.
I am glad YOU declined though, (nothing personal :)).
Well, Restless, I've learned
Submitted by Jer on Sun, 10/24/2010 - 12:42am.
Well, Restless, I've learned never to say "never" so I'll keep the door slightly open in the future, but, for now, if you ever come to visit, you'll easily recognize me. I'll be the one wearing this.
Jer
I have it on good authority
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sun, 10/24/2010 - 1:08am.
Keep that mask. My offer is only for the females of of left.
(Gotta make that clear. Maher may stalk me otherwise).
~This reminds me
Submitted by Wrathful Brunette on Sun, 10/24/2010 - 3:25pm.
Of a priceless moment lost in the NB switchover *sigh*...
"Teabagging isn't just for gays, it only requires a single male participant"--mamabear
"Yeah, but only if he's really flexible"--cl4x
Easy
Submitted by Icarus on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 2:29pm.
Cause it's a silly sexual reference. It's much more stupid than it is offensive. The idea of playing a victim card over it is the rich part.
It seems much more likely that Tea Partiers are offended over it because someone using the term is just pejoratively dismissing the Tea Party and Tea Parties are offended that the person isn't taking them seriously. It's more telling of a sense of entitlement from the Tea Party than a genuine offense.
And yes, Juan Williams tried to use some issue of NPR people using "teabagger" as a contrast or counterpoint to him saying he's afraid of flying with Muslims. And that's comical.
What's funny is you
Submitted by Blonde on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 2:38pm.
Trying to defend the leftist media's juvenile and peurile use of teabagger as a perjorative (all the whilst snickering and snorting as though they just got done with a session that included daddy's Playboy mag).
Clown.
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"silly" sexual reference?
Submitted by MrShy on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 2:39pm.
Okay, fudge***ker, if that's how you look at it.
What I just called you is another in a long line of "silly" sexual references, right?
They are **sexual** references. The one you defend conveniently applies to conservative TEA Party people, so it's only "silly" to you and not offensive.
Thanks for clearing that up, fudge***king liberal.
- Shy****er :p
Join Mr. Shy and The 1* Percent
See now I would have gone in another direction Mr. Shy.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 3:11pm.
I would have turned it in a more medical direction.
Icarus is a syphilis-sore-sucker.
Icarus is a genital-crab-muncher-cruncher.
Icarus is a Leprosy-sore-on-a-willywacker-slurper.
Icarus likes the baloney and fumunda cheese sandwiches.
Suntin like that sir.
Hey, he should like those silly references.
Not fair, Vet
Submitted by MrShy on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 3:55pm.
There are so many goodies to choose from.
I'm sure Icarus will have a hard time picking his favorite, too. They're all so delicious and.... and silly.
Icarus? You have an abundance of nice ones to try on, all courtesy of the Vet.
- Shy Loafers
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It seems much more likely
Submitted by motherbelt on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 2:45pm.
It seems much more likely that Tea Partiers are offended over it because someone using the term is just pejoratively dismissing the Tea Party and Tea Parties are offended that the person isn't taking them seriously. It's more telling of a sense of entitlement from the Tea Party than a genuine offense. And you base your assessment that "it's much more likely" on.....what, exactly? I suppose you also think it's "much more likely" that Tea Partiers are more upset that we have a black president than about the things our government is doing. You could be next in line for an interview on the Ed show.I think a "pejorative
Submitted by yutsnark on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 7:55pm.
I think a "pejorative dismissal" is more hurtful than a sexual reference.
Can't prove it though.
Hey, yutsnark---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 10:34pm.
If you think a "pejorative dismissal" is more hurtful than a sexual reference, go up to a gay weightlifter and call him a c***s*cker.
Then say to him, " I now pejoratively call you a "teabagger ".
When you come to, see if you can determine which of the two phrases was the causal one that resulted in your ambulance ride to obtain a pain pill.
MD
I tried. He pejoritively
Submitted by yutsnark on Thu, 11/18/2010 - 10:21am.
I tried. He pejoritively called me a Republican, then dismissed me. It was a hurtful experience.
yutsnark---
Submitted by matthewdean on Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:54am.
That was funny!
MD
Whatever weepy-oozy-butt-scab-licker.
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 3:01pm.
Hey, it's just a silly factual reference. Don't be offended. You dip your Icarus in another guys mouth. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Hey, it's just a funny reference. It's more stupid than offensive. You munch on another guys Icarus. Don't be offended.just because someone uses that term. Dip Dip Dip Dip. Hey, don't take this person seriiously. Is that a hair? Hey, don't get a sense of entitlement.
Hey dummy that runs away every time we talk. ANSWER MY QUESTIONS
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Icarus is an idiot. Fri, 05/14/2010 - 23:59 ET by JWFIcarus the liar: specific legal matters DoJ can take to prevent terrorism
Oh please. Please. Please. Please. Oh do please tell us what a bunch of lawyers with briefcases are going to do to prevent terrorism. Surely you must have a few ideas on what a lawyer can do to prevent terrorism.
Please. Please. Please. Do fill us in. What document will the lawyer file with the court to prevent Mohammed Al Mohammed Islam Al Mohammed from taking up the jihad with lying idiot trolls. What motion specifically will the lawyer file?
Please Please Please tell us all. We will just do away with the CIA and the DoD.
All we need is Icarus and a roomful of lawyers to prevent the next terrorist attack. Gonna save a buttload of money.
Come on idiot. What motion will the lawyers file to prevent terrorist attacks?
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Hey Stupid, Still waiting for you to tell us how Kagan let those military recruiters RECRUIT, their job. You still ain't answered that one.
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Icarus...
Submitted by GG_NB on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 3:08pm.
is the person who was nasty to Charlie Daniels, when Mr. Daniels posted a heartfelt blog about the people of Tennessee picking themselves up by the bootstraps to deal with the floods...and this was also at a time when Mr. Daniels had been recovering from a stroke.
Out of all the things I've read on here, that post to Mr. Daniels was the most crushing to me. Nothing political -- no possible points trying to be made -- can be worth doing something like that. I am hoping Icarus did not know what Mr. Daniels had been through...but it was disrespectful anyway. That has always bothered me a lot.
"If not us, who? If not now, when?"
~Ronald Reagan
In my defense...
Submitted by Icarus on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 11:51pm.
That Charlie Daniels blog post was quite insane.
No defense for you, icky.
Submitted by Trix Rabbit on Sun, 10/24/2010 - 12:25am.
No defense for you, icky.
Even your best "comments" are weak and stupid, so you get nothing but disdain.
For the MSM: In your pomp and all your glory, you're a poorer man than me. As you lick the boots of death born out of fear.
Ian Anderson "Wind up"
Hey butt-wart-teeth-scraping-chew-chew-butt-wart-muncher-Icarus
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 3:00pm.
You got more lies you never answered up for. When is NewsBuster gonna restore the old comments. This lying troll has been trapped in more lies than I can link to. For the love of Gawd. Fix it.
You mean besides the lies from the last 2 days? Fri, 05/14/2010 - 12:47 ET by JWFhttp://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb-staff/2009/12/24/open-thread-obama-health-bill-clears-senate#comment-1121015
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rusty-weiss/2010/03/23/detroit-free-press-columnist-not-interested-reality-based-commentary#comment-1204902
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/charlie-daniels/2009/12/11/obamas-words-deeds-reveal-his-naive-foreign-policy#comment-1111746
That is just me catching you in a lie. There are at least dozens and dozens of others as well.
You lie. You lie a lot. And you are stupid. Really stupid.
oh gosh, more stupidity from you
Submitted by MrShy on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 3:08pm.
And yes, Juan Williams tried to use some issue of NPR people using "teabagger" as a contrast or counterpoint to him saying he's afraid of flying with Muslims. And that's comical.
Yes, that is comical. Equating these two:
A guy who expresses some apprehension flying with Muslims because....
Muslims have flown planes into buildings killing thousands of innocents.... Muslims have driven cars into all sorts of things/buildings blowing up thousands more innocents in places all over the world.... Muslims have detonated themselves in all sorts of manners, in subways, on trains, in hotels, killing hundreds and thousands more.... Muslims have attempted more detonation on airplanes since 9/11.... Muslims have run through South American villages killing and beheading hundreds of villagers.... Muslims have wreaked havoc on hotels in Mumbai, killing hundreds more and terrorizing the entire city..... Muslims have dressed as "majors" in our military and gone and mass-killed our soldiers.... Nice, soft spoken Muslims have attempted to set off bombs in my Times Square just recently..... and much, much more evil that Muslims have perpetrated. But let's hold Williams' feet to the fire for his "Irrational" fear.
with....
Dimmest-wits like yourself calling good, peaceful, not-rude or offensive people like Tea Party members a sexual slur.
Clown, indeed.
- Shy Vinyl
Join Mr. Shy and The 1* Percent
Hey frozen-bucket-of-diarrhea-slurpee-Icarus....
Submitted by The Vet on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 3:35pm.
Another answer I am waiting for >>>>>>
Shut up Icarus idiot. You annoy me. Sun, 12/13/2009 - 11:34 ET by JWFIcarus the idiot: The Gitmo detainees do have rights, whether they're American citizens or not. Specifically they have Fifth Amendment rights. I only had to go back to 2008 and find Boudimende v. Bush to figure that one out.
The prisoners in Gitmo are allowed redress to challenge their STATUS. Boumediene v Bush does not give them rights to be tried in civilian courts.
Idiot Icarus linked to a Boumediene v Bush and still managed to misspell Boumediene.
Oh, Idiot Icarus, did you figure out why I did not have Habeas rights for 20 years yet?
From Icarus:
Submitted by Kat Outta the Bag on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 3:43pm.
"The idea of playing a victim card over it is the rich part."
Because everybody knows the liberals have a patent on that card, right?
Well it may be news to you
Submitted by Boudin on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 2:17pm.
But those of us that dont practice the deviant act, will always be offended by the term. Even if you do it and are proud of it!
Icarus
Submitted by Phryj1 on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 5:22pm.
It's absolutely hilarious that Icarus actually believes he's being thoughtful and clever. His idea of arguing a point effectively is mindlessly repeating the left-wing talking points and propaganda from the MSM and lefty blogs. Just keep repeating the lies and fallacies until they magically become true. Of course, he doesn't know any better. He's very much part of the Progressive leftist hive-mind, and is incapable of independent thought.
Progressives seem to be completely averse to facts and logic. Apparently, reality has a conservative bias.
Yay! I'm remembered.
Submitted by Icarus on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 11:23pm.
I just wish I could remember most of you. I just remember a big NewsBusters hive mind that let out a hundred tiny bat screeches a lot.
You give him/her/it too much credit
Submitted by RESTLESS 1 on Sun, 10/24/2010 - 12:23am.
Icarus isn't even that smart. Winess the troll's response above.
Damn shame too, "Flight of Icarus" is one of my favorite Maiden songs. Oh well.
I watched the show last
Submitted by killa37 on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 3:32pm.
I watched the show last night........I think Williams had the right to do that segment - he found out firsthand what it's like to be hosed by the very people that he probably thought were 'getting his back'...........yeah, they got his back allright!!! They bent him over, hosed him, and kicked him off the porch!!!
Welcome to OUR WORLD, Juan!!! You make just enough sense, just enough of the time, that there might still be 'hope' (oh, that poor word!!!) for you........
I've said it many times, including to libs I know, that the most intolerant, meanest, narrow-minded, holier-than-thou, angry people I know are the hard-line libs.......as well as a lot of 'regular libs'........just by association. Once they find out that you don't agree with them, you're 'out'!!! I know a lot of them around here......I treat'em all the same, which really mystifies them, because they are 'hard-wired' (thanks Barry!!) to think that 'conservatives' are the mean, racist, bigoted, angry ones.....
not PERSONALLY offensive?
Submitted by sometimesright on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 4:01pm.
my political views aside, if joe shmoe were to walk up to me on the street and call me a "tea-bagger" there would be a hurtin' for certain. i take things in the spirit that they're given. "tea-bagger" is an OBVIOUS INSULT. It's not a tongue-in-cheek little jab. it's meant to be offensive and it's meant to offend. i'm sick of hearing it from maddow, olbermann, schulz(sp), spitzer and the whole gaggle of others who claim to be "journalists". the list goes on and it is ALWAYS used by the left.
just another silly insult
Submitted by Orion_the_truth... on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 4:25pm.
Icarus, what a great name for a troll. The mythical Icarus was full of himself, would not listen to good advice, then crashed and burned. Here is just a silly little insult for you and any other trolls: GO BARACK YOURSELF, or if you prefer BARACK YOU. See, isn't that silly, and of course you should not be offended, you stupid BARACKER.
Fly away, Icarus
Submitted by Franksam on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 5:02pm.
Can we just all agree that Icarus is a fudge***king, syphilis-sore-sucking, genital-crab-munching, leprosy-sore-on-a-willy-wacker-slurping, weepy-oozy-butt-scab-licking, butt-wart-munching, frozen-bucket-of diarrhea-slurping, dimmest-wit-liberal-Baracker, and move on? I think that subject has been covered, and there is no need to pile-on.
However, I would like only to add that he is a dog-lipped ************ing ********er.
Hey, Birdman---
Submitted by matthewdean on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 10:42pm.
I would just like to add to the long list of bon homie posts in your direction:
Welcome back, putz.
MD
Offensive Slur
Submitted by rwnewsnut on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 5:19pm.
I don't understand why tv censors still allow that term to be used on the air. If someone were to use the term C*ckS*ckers on the air, wouldn't that get bleeped? It's just as offensive.
I think Juan Williams is better off. I've read some articles where the word 're-instate' has been bandied about. If I were Juan, I wouldn't entertain that thought for one moment.
Defund NPR now. They can find plenty of liberal donors to support them.
rwnewsnut...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 5:34pm.
Have you ever checked out the Urban Dictionary? There are numerous words and terms which in common parlance are completely benign but have vulgar double entendre or pejorative connotations as well.
There is no ambiguity about c*cks*ckers. But do you know what a "strawberry shortcake" is?--sounds harmless enough. So does a tea bag.
Jer
Exactly
Submitted by rwnewsnut on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 7:26pm.
Now the meaning of the term is commonly known so to continue to allow its use is OFFENSIVE.
Here is Janine*
Submitted by cajun2 on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 7:56pm.
She's just being silly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms45EzMR0f8
Yes, rwnewsnut...
Submitted by Jer on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 8:02pm.
You are correct, sir.
Jer
Juan Williams
Submitted by AgentAmerican on Sat, 10/23/2010 - 11:11pm.
is now my most favorite liberal personality. I had the pleasure of watching his rebuttal of NPR last night. He's intelligent and well informed, even though I don't agree with most of his comments.
I bet he is less left-wing than he was before this past week.
I think there used to be some
Submitted by deerjerkydave on Sun, 10/24/2010 - 1:01am.
I think there used to be some redeeming qualities of liberalism, such as tolerance. But I think the left in America have shifted so far left that they now are hostile to anyone who disagrees with their utopian master planned society, even if the disagreement is small.
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"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the Federal Government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State Governments are numerous and indefinite. -James MadisonI think there used to be some
Submitted by B_Brian.B on Sun, 10/24/2010 - 12:28pm.
Really? I hadn't noticed.
Running Hot...Oh, Yeah...
Submitted by packman on Sun, 10/24/2010 - 9:13am.
I have to agree...Juan was definitely running hot in this segment, but its exactly what needed to be done. NPR needs to feel the backlash from the blowtorch they unleashed on Juan Williams, and quite frankly, he's done a good job of it here.
Never a big fan of his previously...but he's looking a lot like this may be his finest hour...I mean, after all, he is on Fox News hurling fiery invectives at the leftist elite that populate NPR. Couldn't ask more from even a bonafide conservative...
"...Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread..." ~Thomas Jefferson
Juan/NPR
Submitted by B_Brian.B on Sun, 10/24/2010 - 12:26pm.
Dear Juan,
Took ya' long enough. Welcome to the outsider's club!