Stephen Colbert Says 'Sarah Palin Is A F**king Retard'

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The media's hate parade against the former governor of Alaska hit a disgraceful peak Monday night when comedian Stephen Colbert said on national television, "Sarah Palin is a f**king retard."

In a five minute segment bashing the former vice presidential candidate for her remarks at Saturday's National Tea Party convention, as well as her use of crib notes -- surprise! -- the Comedy Central star ended with the controversy surrounding White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel's "retard" comment.

After playing a clip of Palin telling Chris Wallace on "Fox News Sunday" that Rush Limbaugh's use of the word was acceptable because it was satire, Colbert concluded, "It is okay to call someone a retard if like Rush you clearly don't mean it" (video embedded below the fold with partial transcript, vulgarity alert):

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STEPHEN COLBERT: And Sarah Palin knows that it is okay to call someone a retard if like Rush you clearly don't mean it. Which is why we should all come to her defense and say, "Sarah Palin is a f**king retard." Get it.

As would be expected, this evoked thunderous applause from his audience. 

And so, it's come this: it is now acceptable for members of the media to say anything they want about this woman no matter how vulgar.

Can you imagine the outrage if anyone on television did this to a liberal woman regardless of the comedic intent?

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Its SATIRE

 Get it?

WDN- 44

 

Didn't Colbert Use the word "retard"

I think Colbert just used the word. Why was Colbert's invective permissible and Limbaugh's satire not?

?????

How do you spell complete I-D-I-O-T??? 

Colbert's and Limbaugh's satire

Speaking for myself, I will readily condemn Colbert's satirical use of the term if Palin will condemn Limbaugh's "satire".  Oh hell, I'll go ahead and condemn Colbert anyway because there's not a snowball's chance in Death Valley in July that Sarah is ever going to criticize Rush.

Jer

I am confused. I thought there was no acceptable use.

nwahs: One time here , I posted asking if the the person I was replying to was retarded.

nwahs: I'd guess I've been called "retarded" 5000 times in my life...

nwahs: There is no acceptable form of "retard" except as a verb.

nwahs: Take off your tinfoil hat, you jackass. Your talk show diet is making you retarded.

 

I was wrong

I was wrong, tuna fish. The only acceptable use of "retard" is if you're an entitled, hypocritical "conservative." So feel free to call me a f***ing retard ( like you need special permission), and go into a redneck frenzy when someone calls Palin a f***ing retard. It makes perfect sense in the world you epitomize. The world of hypocrites.

WDN- 44

 

I am confused. I wish someone would explain what is acceptable.

nwahs to another poster: But I'm sure someone loves you, strawberry, at $25 a pop.

nwahs: Strawberry - crack whore. They call them that because they...

I prefer the satire of Colbert over being called a crack whore.

The Vet---

nailed your butt again!

And you just keep on comin' back for more.

Know what the word glutton means, there nwahs?

Know what the word punishment means?

Stick the word "for" between them and you have yourself a new tag line.

MD

Isn't that cute

The vet has a pet.

that rhymes...

WDN- 44

 

So does thrawn spawn---

and "you stink, ya twink."

But the best, you see,
That describes nwahs to a tee,
Is what you get,
when you mess with the Vet,
Which is the name liar, liar,
Pants on fire.

Ole' nwahs in Loozianer,
Has waved the retard banner,
He looked in the mirror to see,
Hey, the retard is me.

Sadly, this must end,
Cuz heaven will forfend,
nwahs's worthless a** forever,
Though he's truly a piss poor debater. 

MD

 

 

 

 

You have a one twink

You have a one twink mind.

WDN- 44

 

Well said---

twink.

I'll give you this, thrawn spawn, you keep plodding right along, oblivious.

Must be a gift.

MD 

You are the one who doesn't get it

It's really simple, why can't you 'tards get it.  The major difference is between using the word in a speech or publication and reporting or commenting on it.  Understand dufus?

Or, do you think every reporter/commentator who mentioned "nappy headed ho's" is just as guilty as Imus, dimwit?

In addition to that, I am inclined to give a pass to people who eschew political correctness, but not to those who try to impose it on everyone.  Thus Rush is exempt for making fun of lefties who say things like "magic negro" and "retard".  Colbert should be exempt as well if he doesn't routinely call out conservatives who say questionable things.  I wouldn't know as I don't watch the smarmy semi-funny libtard phony.  Capiz, brain-dead left-wing apologist? (Satire intended)

If it's not the Crusades, it's the cartoons

ETA  I will re-post it so the real retard nwahs is the clear target. 

thx dh


"Capiz"? 

"Capiz"? 

Capice?

 Aw crud, that should be "capice".  I never learned to read or write Yiddish or Italian; I only learned those on the street.

If it's not the Crusades, it's the cartoons

Ah. Got it. Yeah, I don't

Ah. Got it. Yeah, I don't know how it's actually spelled either. 

Capisce?---

Pronounced ka-peesh - or - ka-peezh.

Ka-peezh is Kenyan for "Let me be clear."

Ka-peesh is Chicago-ese for " And you know we'll remember."

MD

Not about the idiot colbert but check THIS out

there was not an appropriate thread to put it, but this will do...

Pam sticks it to behar and ronnie!

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/

 

 

ohio

Behar her brood couldnt handle Pam even with 3 to 1 odds.

Ol Ronnie has

PDS bad,, wow?

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Sorry Noel, I see Stephen Colberts point on this one

If Sarah Palin hates this word so much it should apply to Rush Limbaugh as well. She is backing down only because Rush is the only Conservative more powerful than her at this moment.

Colbert's point of calling her that name was to point out the double standard on her tolerance for that word

→ Of course you do Shawn

So now you're defending the use of the word as long as it's used by someone who supports your view.

In your attempt to fight hypocrisy wherever it rears its ugly head, you dabble in a little of it yourself.

Well played. 

Barack Ѡbama -  O corpse man, My corpse man

Cool

I am pointing out that if she trulys hate the word, it should apply to Limbaugh as well. She is clearly backing down from him, because nobody messes with Rush. Micheal Steele and many other Republicans know this.

Colbert is pointing out that is okay to call Palin a  F-ing retard if it is satire?

What do think cool?, do you feel it is okay to admonish people for using the word in a mean way, but okay to use it in a taunting satirical way?

Gotta go to work, hopefully we can continue this later.

 

 

I halfway agree Shawn

I do agree that Sarah backed down because 10 million dittoheads would come on NB and call her the PC police.

But I don't think Colbert had any business throwing in the f word, and I fail to see why this counts as legitimate satire.

To me it looks like a 10 year old giggling because they said a cuss word in front of the teacher.

Candance

If Colbert said she was a f-retard just for the sake of it, I would disagree. However he was pointing out a double standard and is using it for maximum affect.

Either the word is offensive or not, there is no picking or choosing.

Okay really late now, have a great day can/

As I remember it, Rush

As I remember it, Rush Limbaugh was using the R word in a kind of tweak to point out the media double standard. That the media wasn't eviscerating Rahm The Ballerina the way they would a conservative. And Limbaugh proved his point b/c the next day Rush had become the story and Dead Fish was swept under the rug. In short, Rush was doing a type of performance art to expose the media double standard.

Colbert, artlessly and uncreatively, used the same gimmick. Except he had no point like Limbaugh (i.e. exposing media bia). He simply wanted to be the first media figure to say what these cultural fart-sniffers have been wanting to say for a year and a half now. He had no other point. 

I enjoy Sarah, but I agree on giving Rush a pass

Sauce for the goose, etc...

 

Double Standard?

You mean like the racism "credits" that the left gets?

The revolution will be fought at the ballot box

Are you saying she has a

Are you saying she has a double standard for tolerating that word when Rush used it, but not when Emmanuel did?  If so, this is where you, and the left in general, have it all wrong.

Rush used the word in pointing out what Emmanuel said.  People on the left took that and twisted it around, like they do everything else, as if Limbaugh was the originator of the use of that word.

Now they're claiming Palin hypocritically let Rush off the hook while admonishing Emmanuel?  She didn't let Rush off the hook.  In the Wallace interview, she simply kept the focus where it belongs, on the administration official who used the word.

The double standard is clearly on the part of the left, who is giving Emmanuel a pass by focusing on Palin and Limbaugh who were taking issue with what Emmanuel said.  It's just like the 'magic negro' thing and just about everything else they twist around, misrepresent and lie about.

She is saying when  it is

She is saying when  it is satire it is okay. I believe only because she knows where her  bread is buttered and does not want to bite the hand that feeds her and who can really blame her? Can anyone challenge Rush?

I seem to recall hearing

I seem to recall hearing her say nobody should use that word.  The whole f**king issue is about Emmanuel's use of the word, and about the hypocrisy of those who are trying to use it to bash Palin and Limbaugh who merely pointed out what he said. 

Colbert is a hypocrite who said nothing about Emmanuel's use of the "R" word, but his now spinning this issue as something against people who merely commented on it.

You're missing the point

You're missing the point completely (and you're making inferences you can't back up).

Palin herself said she doesn't believe in the political correctness stuff or being the Word Police. 

It should be pointed out that Obama's Special Olympics "joke" was, by my mind, 100 times more offensive than Dead Fish's thoughtless perjorative. 

What I would say is this: we created a term, 'mentally retarded'. We used it for a long while without problesm. Our kids and our culture became crass and lost values, and we started misusing the word to demean others. And now, because of the cultural left, we can't call retarded people retarded (in my mind, that was Limbaugh's point, at least for me). Now we have to call them 'mentally handicapped' or whatever, simply because of some cultural leftists, who don't work for a living or create jobs, but have found a niche for themselves on a college campus. Screw that.

"...simply because of some

"...simply because of some cultural leftists..."  Who tolerate and gloss over things they clearly would never let one of their detractors get away with even merely commenting about.

shawn

Colbert is piece of trash.I dont agree with Rush useing it but you know what he isnt a elected official.Dead Fish is a gov employee and is suppose to act in a responsible way.Colbert can go flock himself.He is a punk with a pulpit and uses it to shill for the left.I dont agree with Sara giving Rush a pass on it but look how many of these so called comedians use it is "just a joke" after smearing someone.Is Colbert still molesting sheep?J/K maybe.

You don't get it

It's really simple, why can't you 'tards get it.  The major difference is between using the word in a speech or publication and reporting or commenting on it.  Understand dufus?

Or, do you think every reporter/commentator who mentioned "nappy headed ho's" is just as guilty as Imus, dimwit?

In addition to that, I am inclined to give a pass to people who eschew political correctness, but not to those who try to impose it on everyone.  Thus Rush is exempt for making fun of lefties who say things like "magic negro" and "retard".  Colbert should be exempt as well if he doesn't routinely call out conservatives who say questionable things.  I wouldn't know as I don't watch the smarmy semi-funny libtard phony.  Capiz, brain-dead left-wing apologist? (Satire intended)

If it's not the Crusades, it's the cartoons

ETA Sorry Shawn228, this looks like it's directed at you.  I will re-post it so the real retard nwahs is the clear target. 

And I think.....

 

.....Colbert is fu**ing hungry for attention...

 

 

Remember in November...this year !

You're right

What happened to him? He hardly makes NB anymore.

 

Here's another link

Here's another link that makes fun of the "retarded" hypocrisy.

That's the great thing about hypocrisy, it always pays HUGE dividends. Get ready, Noel. "retard" is the new "teabagger." And this time, conservatives can't say "woe is me" as  Palin has given license to SATIRE.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-february-8-2010/back-in-black---th...

WDN- 44

 

We'll grant you retard...

if you would allow us to grant you moron.

 

"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner." — Malcolm Muggeridge

Bring out the big guns

Lets use SATIRE!

WDN- 44

 

OK nwahs, you're a f**king

OK nwahs, you're a f**king retard, get it?

I get it, nwahs

conservatives can't say "woe is me" as  Palin has given license to SATIRE

I'm not allowed to object to that word because Sarah Palin gave permission to Rush.

Working SO HARD to find any kind of JUSTIFICATION to call someone a name.

Good to see we're not in 3rd grade or anything.

Of cousre you should object to that word

 Of course you should object to that word. Its vulgar and is hypocriticaly ignored when Rush uses it.  You should also object to  unbridled hypocrisy. I'm going make fun of that unbridled hypocrisy the wingnuts are trying to force feed sheep, a least for a while.

After all, its SATIRE.  Burn me once, shame on you (editorial you), burn me twice shame on me.

WDN- 44

 

nwahs

I have never been a PC guy. I never really had a problem with that word.

EXCUSE ME NWAHS

You should also object to  unbridled hypocrisy.

Go back to your little forum and see who was there OBJECTING to it right from the start.

I took a lot of junk from a lot of NBers for agreeing with you, and you can't even be bothered to remember.

Have a nice life.

→ Yeah

I seem to remember a heartrending story of a kid who grew up with cerebral palsy, having been called "retard" some 5,000 times in his life.

And now it's suddenly a big joke to that now fully grown, little boy. 

Yukk it up, Nwahs.  But remember, we're not laughing with you. . .

Barack Ѡbama -  O corpse man, My corpse man

No

No its a big joke to hypocritical web towed redneck "conservatives" - THAT'S SATIRE. I'm just having a little fun with SATIRE.

Isn't SATIRE grand?

WDN- 44

 

→ Interesting question

Is "web-toed" funny because it can be surgically corrected?

How about "cleft palate"?

Now we're really getting into some funny stuff here, aren't we?

(Need I say sarc?) 

Barack Ѡbama -  O corpse man, My corpse man

Now. Now.

  nwahs wanted some corrective surgery but was disappointed when he learned it was not really feasable. So no name calling or jokes about that.

  Correctable deformities that afflict others. Name calling - allowed. Jokes - allowed.

I... I lost track there. Didn't someone mention hypocrisy?

I get it now.

 nwahs was verbally abused in his younger days based upon his physical disabilities.

 nwahs is now verbally abusing others based upon their physical disabilities.

Is that what he means by hypocrisy?

Cool---

Thrawn spawn spelled it web towed.

Reckon that means Spiderman drug 'em off?

MD

→ I stand corrected.

Does J. Jonah Jameson have the pictures?

Barack Ѡbama -  O corpse man, My corpse man

Redneck Conservatives vs sodomite liberals...

hmmm...I'll take the redneck tag. Can you believe these idiots can't even figure out which end to use for pleasure? Only a northern liberal moron is that stupid.

Hey! You're right, satire IS fun!

 

"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner." — Malcolm Muggeridge

I remember that

heart rending story too, CA.  So, it seems the height of hypocrisy for him to now say that he'll use the word to point out the "hypocrisy".  As long as a lib can use the word, it's ok, because they're just pointing out the hypocrisy.  Talk about, well, hypocrite, next to the word in the dictionary is a picture of nwahs. 

→ Yeah, that's it

Nwahs sees himself as so absolutely superior to those whose mental faculties are less acute than his. 

Barack Ѡbama -  O corpse man, My corpse man

I know you were Candance

You have integrity. I've said that on other occasions. You don't have double standards. I know you were objecting to it. I am objecting to this blatant hypocrisy here. When I said"you should object to unbridled hypocrisy,I meant the editorial "you" or "one should object to unbridled hypocrisy."

WDN- 44

 

What unbridled hypocrisy?

 Are you talking of the unbridled hypocrisy of insulting others based upon physical deformities they were born with whilst decrying those who insulted you based upon the physical deformities you were born with?

nwahs: ...web towed redneck...You're a web toed freak

nwahs:  I'd guess I've been called "retarded" 5000 times in my life, most happening in a 2 year period of high school.

Try a little more butter, nwaaahs

And for an example of unbridled hypocrisy, see the very first post in this thread.

She didn't give "license to

She didn't give "license to satire" (as if she, or anyone else has that power)

She merely pointed out the fact that the Left was coming down on Limbaugh for commenting on what Emmanual said, while glossing over what Emannuel said.

And for people like you to claim that this is some hypocritical excuse-making by Palin is just more leftist hypocrisy. It's easy to see, by they way the Left is excoriating Limbaugh and Palin over their commentary about what Emmanuel said, that if either of them had actually said what Emmanuel said, they'd be ripped to shreds.

The hypocrisy clearly resides with the left.

nwahs

Just curious about Rush's political appointment?I havent seen it in the news.

Mothers little helpers

Hey, it turns out Bristol and Willow were prompting Sarah from stage right of the Teaparty convention:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnL1xE1WFe0

You gota love

You gota love SATIRE.

WDN- 44

 

I do, so i'll say it again,

I do, so i'll say it again, nwahs you're a f**king retard, ha ha ha, wink wink (actually you are).

Of course I am

 Of course I am. You're a conservative. You can use retard with impunity.

"Oh woe is me, Letterman tells child rapist jokes, leftist use that vile mainstream expression "teabagger," Emanuel said "retard". Oh woe woe woe woe is  me. The retards on the left are injuring me. Woe woe woe."

WDN- 44

 

→ Yeah, woe is you.

And if we reopened Letterman's child-rape thread, you'd still be defending his pedophilic butt.

Barack Ѡbama -  O corpse man, My corpse man

ITS SATIRE

 And some hypocrites here would still be projecting their toe tapping fantasies, while defending wingnuts cruising as SATIRE.

WDN- 44

 

→ Say what?

A nonsensical post will truncate a thread every time.

Barack Ѡbama -  O corpse man, My corpse man

nwahs

So you have toe tapping fantasies?Be careful in Minnesota airports.

 

I'm confused too!

Nwahs: ^"Of course I am. You're a conservative. You can use retard with impunity".

Nwahs:  "I'm a conservative so I bite on the red meat Rush throws as much as anyone."

http://tinyurl.com/yhhah7k

Uh, so Nwahs, being a conservative, can use the word "retard" with impunity?  But-But weren't we just lectured that the word "retard" is a "word grenade" and deeply wounding to those with disabilities?

Gosh, something is just not adding up. I'm confused!  It must be satire.  Yeah, that's it, satire. That's the ticket.

What would you expect from

What would you expect from the left?

This is revenge for all the

This is revenge for all the criticism of The One for the use of a teleprompter. This is not looking mature people, let's be honest here. If The One had never used a teleprompter do you think that they'd be hounding her for scribbling anything on her hand? Or would they be making fun of Hilary if she had done the same thing? I think not. 

Is "Libtard" still allowed?

or is truth no longer an acceptable defense?

Mitch

It depends on whose truth you're talking about, liberal’s version of truth which is subjective, or truth that is objective and real.  My view of truth is that it determines itself and is objective not based on the whims of fancy of any human.

Libtard

I prefer the term Libturd, that would make the flattire enthrallist a Returd.!!~~!!

Indubitably kilrod

If an unborn child cannot trust you, why should I,?? 

kilrod, I like your Libturd suggestion...

now if Samsung would sell a TV that flushes.

A tv That

A tv that flushes, now thats cool(not you cool ), libs probably have one and some how they projected the logic pod of their faculties  onto it and then hit the flush button.

(grins) kilrod 

If an unborn child cannot trust you, why should I,?? 

Wow, shawnie, this one

Wow, shawnie, this one really got under your skin. 

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

Hey, it's acceptable if it's

Hey, it's acceptable if it's satire, right? 

→ Yep, bal

It's a double standard, all right.

Colbert = Rush. 

Barack Ѡbama -  O corpse man, My corpse man

Obviously that's why it was

Obviously that's why it was such an outlandish remark from Colbert, to "test" Palin's theory. Stewart did the same thing on his show, and then pointed out that she obviously wouldn't have any problem with a late night comedian making jokes then, would she?

→ It's not outlandish

Not coming from Colbert.  I've already capitulated to the point you made.

Colbert = Rush. Not a dime's worth of difference between their uses of the word.  Both of them used the word tauntingly, with full knowledge that a line had been drawn.

I like both Colbert and Rush.  But you're not going to catch me calling people retards because some unseen floodgate has magically opened.

Barack Ѡbama -  O corpse man, My corpse man

Watching the left writhe in

Watching the left writhe in pain at the sight of Conservatives is hilarious, but they often take it to insane levels. 

Can you imagine if they had as much hate for terrorists as they did for their own countrymen?  

We might actually have somebody in office who keeps us safe.  But no, instead we have the largest fraud in history holding the highest office in the world, and the media focuses on what again?  Palin.

Their fear has such a potent aroma.

Agree You can see the

Agree

You can see the jealousy.  The left is calling out all the dogs to attack her.

 It isn't gaining traction with anyone but the hard core left.

Six---

Yep.

That aroma is the result of Palin causing the Lib-Dims to crap in their drawers.

MD

The Cry of the Truly Desperate

When liberals have to resort to using the "F" word, you know darn well they are scraping the bottom of the barrel.  They are so drenched with hatred for this woman, and every liberal newscaster, news show and magazine has ripped her from head to toe.

Since so much  hate has been spewed, I guess Colbert is out of mature vocabulary, so he has to resort to F-bombs.  How quaint.

What an idiot.  People who used this kind of vocabulary do not have a handle on the English language.  There are so many colorful metaphors people can use, but stooping to profanity is a sign of the truly desperate. 

You make a mistake once,

You make a mistake once, it's an error. If you make the same mistake twice, it's an error in judgement. But when you make the same mistake a third time, maybe the F*ckin Retard tag should apply. In the past months, we've seen the following:

1. Palin responds with comments about statements made about other candidates in the book "Game Change" without challenging the credibility of the authors, but then claims all of the statements about her are lies. That was dumb.

2. Republicans rail time and time again against political correctness, then Palin makes an issue of Emmanuel saying retard. You can't be against political correctness, then be for it when someone says something you find objectionable. A better response would have been "Emmanuel has the right to say whatever he likes regardless of how ignorant it is."

3. Palin makes fun of Obama's use of a crutch, his teleprompter, to get through speeches, then gets caught with her own crutch.

I'm thinking that maybe, just maybe, Palin and others should focus on issues rather than attacking folks on personal issues that there's a good chance they might do themselves. That'll keep them from constantly handing the Democrats bullets to shoot them with!

The crutch?

An entire speech canned on the teleprompter, as opposed to 3 talking points written on her hand?  Since when did a teleprompter become a "personal issue"? 

And, once again, you dismiss the F-bomb as inconsequential, when it was an integral part of the whole discussion.  She made an issue, and Rush satirized, Emanuel's use of "f-ing retards".  

So, now, in your considered opinion, Palin should be tagged with the "F---ing Retard"?  You're sounding more and more like a Paulian, Bru.  

The problem is that by

The problem is that by acting like Democrats, we're being forced more and more to try to split hairs. Some are trying to make an argument that there's a big difference between using a teleprompter throughout a speech and using notes on your hand... there is no difference! Both are readilly used examples of "crutches" to get through a speech, and neither is bad or an unacceptable means of getting through a speech, and neither is better or worse than the other. What is a problem is attacking someone because they need the crutch because you open the door for attacks when you use a crutch. It's the old "people who live in glass houses..." lesson we all should learn as kids.

Yes, the use of the F-bomb is inconsequential if you really believe in freedom of speech and the need to eliminate political correctness! How many times have you railed against Libs telling you that you must call an illegal immigrant an undocumented citizen or use similar verbiage? Well, you can't be against political correctness sometimes, but be for it when someone says something you object to. If Emmanuel wants to drop the F-bomb ten times a minute, that's fine by me as I don't want anyone telling me what I can say. Let's let Emmanuel use his choice of language to define himself rather than forgo our beliefs in free speech and the need to eliminate political correctness to attack him.

Yes, maybe Palin should be tagged as a retard as this is the third time she's tripped over her own attacks. I know... it's against the 11th Commandment of Thou Shalt Not Criticize Palin, but if she wants to be taken seriously by thouse outside her fan club, she needs to start thinking a bit more like a leader and stop setting herself up for attacks by attacking others for stuff she does herself. She needs to stick to the issues.

Where, exactly,

did I say that I didn't believe in the freedom of speech.  I said that the focus on this should be on "f---ing retards" not "retards".  And, I don't think that a federal employee, or any public employee should use the F-bomb when he's on the public dime.  If you construe that as violating his freedom of speech, you're kinda twisted there, Bru. 

Don't want anyone telling you what you can say?  Try saying"fire" in a theater, or "bomb" while you're in line at the airport.  That's telling you what you can't say.  If you're true to your convictions, let's see you go the nearest airport and say the b-word, just because no one can tell you what to say.

 

And I'm saying, again, that

And I'm saying, again, that the focus should be on Emmanuel and not on any word that he used. Don't you see how this works? Palin criticizes Emmanuel for saying Retard. That means the next time some Conservative (enter Rush) uses the word, in any context, she is now forced to defend Rush's use of the word. It doesn't matter to the Libs that Emmanuel used the word as a pejorative (Emmanuel) or to make fun of Emmanuel (Rush) since they just want to make Palin looking hypocritical the issue.

Your second contention is just as faulty. There is nothing to stop me from saying "fire" in a theater, or "bomb" on an airplane, if I'm in a theater that's on fire or I see a bomb on a plane. What I can't do is use words that convey a falsehood in order to incite panic. Trust me... if you see a fire in a theater or a bomb on a plane... don't keep that fact to yourself. :) BTW... I flew on Navy P-3C Orions for ten years and used the word "bomb" at lots of airports - haven't been arrested yet.

Anyway, getting back on point, if you, Palin, or anyone else is going to be critical of political correctness and the incesant need to always make sure we're saying everything in a way that's non-offensive to everyone on the planet, then you can't use political correctness as a means to criticize someone. Simple as that. Now, imagine Palin responding to reports of Emmanuel's comments this way:

"It's not Emmanuel's fault. Many people resort to profane language and insults when they realize the argument they are making isn't convincing anyone."

"I learned a long time ago people who are, say, 'short of stature', often use foul language and insults as a means to puff themselves up and look bigger than they are."

Those responses criticize Emmanuel just as well as saying his language is offensive without the need to resort to calls for political correct speech or opening the door to attacks when someone on your side uses the word.

Okay, let me

qualify my statement by saying, without a fire being present, or a bomb being evident.  So, you prove my point, one can not say those words just because they don't want someone telling them what they can say.  Satisfied?  And saying "bomb" in the context of your job on a P-3 is being disingenous at best....  You know where I was going with that point, you couldn't refute it, so you dissembled. 

Again, Emanuel is a public employee, and taking it to an extreme, a representative of the POTUS.  His use of the F-bomb as a descriptor to the "r" word is offensive, if you don't find it so, then more's the pity.  

No, you had the

No, you had the disengenuous, argument. I just gave it a good shot of hyperbole to point it out to you. I wasn't talking about demanding the right to incite a panic in a theater or plane by yelling bomb or fire and you knew that. I know you knew that as there's never been a case of someone being deemed "politically incorrect" for saying fire in a theater. :) I was referring to being told what I am saying is politically incorrect, as in my examples of illegals, and you just decided to shuffle off to an extreme to try to make a failed point.

And where does it say that a public official can't drop the F-bomb? Where is that in the Constitution? I don't remember any ammendment that reads "pass no law abridging free speech... except for public officials using that F-word!" If you find that, please send me a link.

It's hard for me to say I find it offensive as I used it plenty of times when I was in the employ of the U.S. Government. But then again, I find lots of things offensive, like say every word that comes out of Rosie O'Donnell's yap, but my scorning her for saying them would mean I would have to scorn everyone who says something objectionable, even if I don't find it objectionable. I like to be consistent, sort of like the Founding Fathers.

There you go again with

There you go again with your PDS.

"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws" Tacitus

Yeah... PDS... that's the

Yeah... PDS... that's the ticket! I mean, it can't possibly be that Sarah Palin could ever do something wrong, or ever have room for improvement.

Yeah, you're exactly the same as the Obama fans who wrote all criticism of their idol off as ODS. I saw that's worked out well for them. :)

No Bru, you have case of

No Bru, you have case of PDS, not a severe one like Pop Tech had but a case none the less.  You seem to want to comment on any thread that pertains to Gov Palin and seem to have contempt for the fact that she breathes.

This website is to expose the bias that the media has against people on the right of the political scale and that includes Gov Palin.  NewsBusters post the obvious bias that the MSM is showing in their reporting on Gov Palin and you are right there agreeing with them and for all intents and purposes cheering them on.

Why don't you create a Forum about how YOU do not like Gov Palin and post to your hearts delight without spamming the threads with your hatred?  Or go look up Pop Techs and roll around in it celebrating your kinship.

"The more corrupt the state, the more numerous the laws" Tacitus

IT'S JUST A WORD !!!!!!!

Just as fuck is just a word...Wow! is it, I don't know? is there a difference if we spell it f**k, or f#*k or %#&@? I know i'm gonna maybe rile some feathers here, but I dont remember reading in the bible God saying "don't use the word fuck or shit  or....etc." I do remember him saying not to take HIS name in vain. So for you biblical scholars out there, are the people that use those 'bad' words going to hell? or is it just HUMANS that make those a 'bad' word?

If I called my 'couch' a 'sofa', is it demeaning my 'divan'?

So what if they called us 'tea baggers'.. OUCH!!! <Let me feign outrage!? SO WHAT?! Sticks and stones......and that goes for both sides.

Thank you for making a

Thank you for making a sensible argument. I think many folks forget that the only power words have is what we choose to give them, and we're being hypocrites if we object to being told were using insensitive language and then turn around and object to someone else's use of insensitive language.

Good show!

Uh, Bruzilla---

You failed to include Palins' name in your 13:53 post.

You are going to have to be a little more consistent if you want to convince us "Palin tolerators" of the error of our ways in not seeing how absolutely worthless she is as either a candidate, conservative, or public speaker.

MD

 

Bible

 As a Bible scholar, let me assure you that no one is going to hell for saying f***, s***, or even f***s***.  We are all going to hell because we all have fallen short of living a sinless life.

A fortunate few of us have taken advantage of a superb but limited offer.  We get to exchange our unrighteousness for the righteousness of Jesus Christ.  That is called the "great exchange" or salvation by the grace (free gift) of God.  Going to hell is not about what you say, or even do; it's about your relationship with God the Son, Jesus.  

If it's not the Crusades, it's the cartoons

The guy is a skinny

The guy is a skinny Olbermann.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                        

What Stephen Colbert did

What Stephen Colbert did last night was brilliant. If he would have just come out and said "Sarah Palin is a f**cking retard." then it wouldn't be funny. But that isn't what Colbert did, he used Sarah Palin's own ridiculous logic that she used to defend Rush Limbaugh, for calling the same liberal group Rahm did retards. Rush didn't use satire, Colbert used satire, and now Sarah Palin can't say anything about it, and if she does then we would know that the entire GOP is afraid of Rush Limbaugh, and that Rush is the true leader of the GOP. 

You have no idea why Rush

You have no idea why Rush mimicked Rahm, do you?

Rush was talking about

Rush was talking about people being to politically correct.  Sarah Palin had the right to criticize Rahm because of her son. But, Sarah Palin lost all credibility when she didn't criticize Rush for saying what Rahm said, minus the f-word. 

To me it seems that Palin is a hypocrite, who wasn't sincerely offended by Rahm calling some people retards. It seems that Palin was using her son's disabilities to score political points. To me that is truly offensive.  

How about

The fact that Rahm represents our President, and by proxi the country, and Rush represents himself? Myself, I hold our elected leaders and their appointments to a higher standard then I do entertainers. 

Palin criticized Rahm because he used the word to demean others, Rush Colbert and others, are just being goof balls

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

I don't know about anyone

I don't know about anyone else but I'm glad they're acting this way, they'll push more people away. There's no pretense of objectivity, fairness, and with the entertainment industry's actual entertainment value or with the so called news presenters honestly reporting  the story, not cherry picking to support some agenda. Their attacks are blatent and one sided they use to be subtle, not anymore. Now their in a panic because they're losing the argument and it shows. More and more people, average people, see them for who and what they are and always were.

So this is a good indication.

Colbert is JUST SO

Colbert is JUST SO UNBELIEVABLY CLEVER!  How does he think of such witty comments? Why, I almost couldn't breathe I laughed so hard at that completely original, totally suprising piece of humor.  Comedy has never been quite so inventive, intelligent, and fresh.

/sarc (for those of you in Rio Linda)

"Beauty is only skin deep, but liberal's to the bone." - me

What I am afraid of is ...

Now that the Palin PC police have defined the use of the word ‘retard’ (only okay if Rush says it in satire), what will come of the word libtard? On this site, ‘libtard’ is one of the most common shorthands for ‘anyone I disagree with.’ If banned, a lot of posters will be left without the sharpest tool in their shed.

A compromise is in order. Just don’t use the expression F-ing libtard, and you will be in God’s graces like Rush.

Oh, the hypocrisy!

Doug Wild

You have no idea why Rush

You have no idea why Rush mimicked Rahm, do you?

Libtard, Doug,

no further comment required.

Case in point

UpNorth,

As the old adage goes, “it’s best not to say anything if you have nothing to say.”

 

Doug Wild

So, why

did you? 

Just another potty-mouthed, vulgar elitist comic

But I'm impressed at how many of his minions showed up here, thinking that they've scored a point.  How Sarah has you bed-wetters well, wetting your beds.

RAHM EMMANUEL IS CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE POTUS.  He's not a satirist or a comic.

He's also grotesque, obscene, hateful and nasty.  A group that works with disabled children appealed to Sarah to speak out against Emmanuel's cruel remark.  She did, on Facebook.

 And Rahm tucked his nasty tail between his legs and crawled around town begging to apologize.

That's what really has the left upset--how large, how raw is Sarah's power.

So, you just went down several notches in my regard, Colbert.   I thought you had just a bit of class.  I guess you don't. 

Excuse me if I am missing something

         Please correct me, but

1. There is a difference between F**king retard and retard
EX: John Doe's neighbor is a Mexican vs John Doe's neighbor is a F**king Mexican.

2. If an African American says "I object to the use of the word negro." It is absurd to accuse the African American of hypocrisy because he used the word negro in his objection.

3. The use of the term "retard" by Rush was not done in the context of some totally different topic. It was not the case that for example He had refereed to Obama’s policies as retarded or Eric Holder as retarded. In fact he used the term in the context of discussion of Emanuel’s use of it, thus he it was a rhetorical point he was making.

4. If when Jesse Jackson made his famous 'Hyme Town' remark,
Mayor Koch would have said something like "This 'Hyme' doesn’t think Mr. Jackson will be getting many votes in my neighborhood"
Wouldn't it be absurd to claim that Mayor Koch was being hypocritical by also using the term "Hyme"

 

 

There's nothing wrong with

There's nothing wrong with calling someone a Mexican, if the subject is in fact Mexican.

If you call a mentally or physically disabled person a retard, it's still wrong.  Adding the F word doesn't change the meaning.

There is no better satiric comedian working today than Colbert.  He defines satire.  If he doesn't fit Palin's description of what is acceptable, I don't know who does. 

And, he's

in great company.  NO, wait... No he isn't.  Bob Hope was a satirist, and I don't ever remember him using the F-bomb in his routines.  Colbert is just another foul-mouthed clown, one step removed from a third-rate comedy club.  And so is Jon Stewart.  Without vulgarity, neither of them is close to funny. 

Considering the popularity

Considering the popularity of their shows, combined with the fact that profanity is bleeped out on both of their shows, I must disagree that either of them need profanity to be funny.  It may not be your type of humor, but what makes you the judge of what is and is not funny? 

My opinion,

because I'm the judge of what's funny to me.  What makes you the judge of what I find funny?  We could do a whole thread on this, ADK, and end up where we started.  I expressed my opinion, I find neither of them funny. You, apparently, do. 

As to their popularity, so what?  Goebbels was popular in his day too, as was Father Coughlin, and Joe McCarthy.  That doesn't make them cool, it just shows that some people have different standards for what they'll listen to.  

So then just because Fox

So then just because Fox News is the most popular, it doesn't make them the best news source, correct?

Instead, you could have said something like "I don't find Colbert funny, but it's fine if others do."  But you chose to insist that neither of them are funny, and because of that, they're nothing but third rate comedians...with hit shows.

Colbert is just another foul-mouthed clown, one step removed from a third-rate comedy club.  And so is Jon Stewart.  Without vulgarity, neither of them is close to funny. 

Fine, it's your opinion.   

So, is he

a foul-mouthed clown or not?  I don't need you to instruct me on what I say.  If I don't find him funny, I now have to qualify whatever I want to say, to meet your standards?  But, thanks for recognizing that it is, indeed, my opinion.  I recognize that Colbert is funny, in your opinion.  Fine, it's your opinion. 

And, I think that I was actually saying that Colbert and Stewart need the crutch of the F-bomb to be funny.  To their followers. 

How can you possibly say

How can you possibly say these guys aren't funny unless they use profanity, when their entire shows are both without profanity?  Are you reading your own words here?

 

Entire show?

Really,  tell us again what Colbert said about Palin? 

Sara Palin is a f***ing

Sara Palin is a f***ing retard.

How many times did he swear in that episode?

How many times did he swear in the previous episode?

How many times did he swear this week?

How many times did either Colbert or Stewart swear on their shows this month?

How many times did the audience laugh each time Colbert or Stewart made a profanity-less joke?

See what I'm getting at here?  The majority of their humor does not include profanity.  And viewers still laugh.  When they swear, it is censored.  Contrary to your insistence, profanity does not make their shows funnier.

Most of the people

Most of the people crucifying Colbert have never seen his show. He doesn't swear very often, and this time he did so to make a point satirically. But that seems to have been missed...

Missed...or ignored?

Missed...or ignored?

bal

Ted writes (emphasizing a flawed argument) above:

Considering the popularity of their shows, combined with the fact that profanity is bleeped out on both of their shows, I must disagree that either of them need profanity to be funny.

You write:

He doesn't swear very often, and this time he did so to make a point satirically.

Exactly. Bleep or no bleep, him adding that word was all about making a point/heightening the satirical impact of it all for audience members who, indeed, in their own lives, enjoy cursing a lot, I'm sure.

You libs need to get your arguments straight. :p

And I have watched more than enough of both of them. Stewart employs cursing here and there, as I recall many times where they bleeped stuff. I remember one where he sort of went nuts (aaah, we love that Stewart!) and cursed all throughout, with tons of bleeps.... Hahaha, hoot hoot, clap clap clap, went the audience. That Stewart. Sharp. Irreverent. So relevant it hurts. 

:)

I'm not looking for anyone's pity. - Jer
There have been studies. - Jer

 

Why do you keep insisting

Why do you keep insisting that these Comedians don't get laughs without profanity, when you've already admitted that the majority of their comedy shows exclude profanity? 

Potato potahto. 

Potato potahto. 

Ted

True, about them generally not leaning on profanity...

However, less true with Stewart, from my time watching him. He quite often likes to spike his humor -- in his opening or closing riffs after news items -- with some curse-word emphasis that gets bleeped out. And those bits get the biggest roar of laughter from the crowd.

BUT, you keep returning to the totally flawed argument that an F-bomb bleeped is equivalent to an F-bomb not being used at all, which, I'm sure, if you were honest with yourself (Jer? you listening? :p), you'd concede is just not the case.

We all know Colbert/whoever just DID curse to further heighten their comedic this-is-the-last-straw take on whatever it is they're mocking. Hearing it or not hearing it is virtually inconsequential to the impact it had.

 

I'm not looking for anyone's pity. - Jer
There have been studies. - Jer

 

I concede that the bleeped

I concede that the bleeped f*** word is different indeed from not using the f*** word at all.

Now, you get to concede that it was perfectly acceptable for Colbert to use the word retard (according to Palin's own acceptable uses) because he is a satirist.  Grazie.

No response, Shy?

No response, Shy?

Wouldn't know, ADK

as I told you, I don't find him funny, so I don't watch him anymore.  And, I know this will shock you, but we do have common ground here.  Profanity does not make their shows funnier.  And we're supposed to judge their talent by how many times their audience laughs?  So, "when they swear, it is censored"?  Why is that?  And lets not get back to "I don't want anyone telling me what to say", OK?

And, "the majority of their humor does not include profanity"?  If they are truly funny, and supposed commenters on today, what use is there for any profanity?  If they were truly funny, they could make the point without profanity.   

I'm not sure what you're

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.  If you're asking why they censor profanity, it's because the network has chosen to do so.  FCC has no control over cable TV.

Really?

"Sarah Palin is a f***ing retard".  You referenced this at 14:52, but at 14:41 you said "both their shows are without profanity".  Which is it, with or without?  You really should at least try for the appearance of consistency.  And who cares if they bleep it, if they let the first letter out, or the last, and focus on the mouth of the speaker, it's obvious what they're saying.   Profane is profane.  At least that's my opinion.  Forgot that I have to put in that disclaimer for you.

Did you hear Colbert say

Did you hear Colbert say "f***ing?"  It was censored.  So yes, to every single viewer who wasn't in his studio audience, the broadcast in discussion was 100% without profanity.  There's no other way you can spin this.

Ted

Good grief, you're back to that failed argument again?

 

I'm not looking for anyone's pity. - Jer
There have been studies. - Jer

I will

So what.

Who cares?

I wouldnt watch this nitwit with your eyeballs

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Am I to understand that you

Am I to understand that you now represent MrShy?

Do you represent

Cobert?

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Obviously I don't. But since

Obviously I don't.

But since you've chosen to answer for MrShy, one would have to assume you do in fact speak for him.  So far he hasn't objected. 

Until you see his name

On my post, he wont be represented by me. And in kind, I wont hold you up to others. 

I simply answered your questions, just like a lib to add a moronic spin to it. Good grief

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Just like a conservative to

Just like a conservative to throw in an insult when all else fails.

Now play innocent. 3...2...1... 

Where did I fail?

You spin like a moron, and a lib, spin moron spin, wweeeeeeeee

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Faster

faster,,,,,,,,, 

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Geez, and it's usually the

Geez, and it's usually the libs who are accused of name calling and insults when they can't come up with something intelligent to say. 

So it goes, anyway... 

You havent said the first intelligent word

Now try to concentrate on why you were accusing me of speaking for another, ya know,,,,,the topic at hand. Blaming me for your stupidity is ridiculous, in-fact you have littered this whole thread with idiocy

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

See for yourself...

Look at this entire thread and point out one single comment you've made that refers to the topic.  You came here to start trouble and derail the thread.  Congratulations.  

Talk about derailing threads

"I will", means me, myself, not another poster.

But since you've chosen to answer for MrShy,

I did not choose to answer for anyone but myself, thus "I will". Pretty simple english, for most of us. 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

general company

ADK (AKA- 'The Thread Hijacker') always has to have the last word. 

"Somehow, I told you so, just doesn't quite say it." Will Smith in 'I, Robot.'

g.c.

I wouldnt watch this nitwit with your eyeballs

Hahaha...

He's now obsessively hounding me to answer these irrelevant, switch-the-topic questions.

 

I'm not looking for anyone's pity. - Jer
There have been studies. - Jer

Pathetic.  If you refuse to

Pathetic.  If you refuse to be honest and answer these questions, why should I bother engaging in discussion with you anymore?  

Ted

Why should you bother? Great question. No one's twisting your arm.

 

I'm not looking for anyone's pity. - Jer
There have been studies. - Jer

 

Spin?

we don't need no steenkin spin.  You've spun this so much, there isn't another revolution left in this. Colbert said it, you admitted it in earlier posts, kinda like he said it, before he didn't say it.  

OK then

 There's nothing wrong with calling someone a Mexican, if the subject is in fact Mexican.

If the subject is not, is it derogatory?

There is no better satiric comedian working today than Colbert.

Well, I dont know about that, question: Who do you think writes more of their own material? 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Does it matter which of the

Does it matter which of the 2 you or I consider to be better?  It doesn't change the fact that Colbert is a satirist.

Well what about

The Mexican?

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Um, I don't know why calling

Um, I don't know why calling someone Mexican would be derogatory if the person isn't Mexican.  It would just be ignorant and make the speaker sound foolish.

Should only

Mexicans get to use Mexicans in their satire?

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

You're going to have to be a

You're going to have to be a little clearer about this game you're playing.  What exactly are you getting at?  

It's and 8 word question

It could not be any clearer, if you dont want to answer, dont.

edit:10 word

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Thats stupid

 1. There is a difference between F**king retard and retard
EX: John Doe's neighbor is a Mexican vs John Doe's neighbor is a F**king Mexican.

Thats f**king stupid. "Retard" is a verb not a noun, and used as noun, its a slur.

So you're implying f**king n**ger is different that n**ger.

Well not much.

WDN- 44

 

.

Missed that you were replying, sorry.

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

1. There is a difference

1. There is a difference between F**king retard and retard
EX: John Doe's neighbor is a Mexican vs John Doe's neighbor is a F**king Mexican.

Thats f**king stupid. "Retard" is a verb not a noun, and used as noun, its a slur.

So you're implying f**king n**ger is different that n**ger.

Well not much.

Half correct, though some might say you were plain incorrect.  "Retard" can be noun or verb.  In Emanuel's, Limbaugh's and Colbert's usage, "retard" was a noun.  Also, "retard" can be a noun but not be a slur.

There is a grammatical difference whether "f**king" is used or not in combination with the noun "retard"- it is an intensifier in this case.

I would think the difference between you calling someone a "ni**er" and a "f**king ni**er" is about a 0.5 second difference in time before your head hits the ground.

I heard what Limbaugh said on the radio.  I've only read Colbert's words as printed in the above article.  (The video didn't work for me)  Arguing that what Colbert did was the same as what Limbaugh did requires the same equivalence, or should I say equivocalness, as saying anything and everything is "Art".  With regards to Colbert, the satire factor was extremely minimal if at all.

Limbaugh used the words of Emanuel to excruciatingly highlight the callow and viscious nature of the man.  Limbaugh could have not used the pertinent words at all, though the effect may have been quite lessened.  The shockingness, the repetitiveness, and the expansiveness of Limbaugh using those words were elemental to exposing the unsavory nature of Emanuel and those that covered up and/or supported him in this matter.  The power of the words afforded the potent effect Limbaugh desired in calling out Emanuel and others for their duplicity.

Blacks have co-opted the word "ni**er", calling one another by that epithet, which on purpose or not, has taken some of the power of the word away within the Black community itself.  This is not to say a non-Black person calling a Black person that word is less damaging.  It is to say that the Black community used the word amongst themselves to gain power over the word.  They needed to use the word at that time in history to alter dynamics.

In a similar though inverse fashion, Limbaugh needed to use the words of Emanuel to demonstrate in the absurdist satirical sense the the dark nature of Emanuel, his protectors, and the facade of Liberal Political Correctness. 

Limbaugh used the words as a battering ram in the guise of actual satire, loose and vulgar to be sure, to demonstrate the shallowness, meanness and vulgarity of Emanuel.  Limbaugh did not himself say Emanuel was a "f-n retard" or that the Democrats Emanuel vomited his invective towards were "f-n retards".  Instead he used the words of Emanuel to illuminate that Emanuel thinks his colleagues are "f-n retards" and that Emanuel's apology to MRDD people (Mentally Retarded, Developmentally Delayed though increasingly being shortened to just DD around the country) explicitly avoided addressing the Democrats he verbal assaulted in the first place, ergo, Emanuel may still think them "f-n retards". 

Limbaugh did not use the words to disparge someone as "f-n retards".  On the other hand, Colbert did. 

Colbert's schtick is poking fun, maligning, satirizing Conservatives.  Colbert did not like Palin before his statement.  OK.  He's the anti-Limbaugh in this respect.  The difference is Colbert made a declarative statement about Palin, and, knowing Colbert's dislike of Palin, the statement came off more as directed anger than smart reversal.  Considering Colbert's words as satire is like considering dog poop on the tree lawn as "Art".  In other words, a chasmic stretch.  And as crude as Emanuel. 

Rush did not call other's "f-n retards", so there was nothing that Limbaugh "didn't mean". 

It's a critical distinction:  Emanuel said and meant his words;  Limbaugh held the mirror up to the clown(s);  and Colbert the Carny barks lies to entice the rubes into his twenty-five cent peepshow.

Colbert predicated his "satire" on fabrication.  That's not satire.  It was debasement.  It was character assassination.  (but with a wink and a mug so it's okay-dokay)

.

.

The script

MSM =Sarah Palin is the dumbest ever , terrible for the country MSM = Pres Obama is the smartest ever, great for the country The hate they are pouring on this women is almost equal the love they showered on Pres Obama

And

Not forgetting Jon Stewart's FU Sarah Palin rant to some college students at Northeastern University totally ignored by the media.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwiBBtMX0ac

 Expletive brainstem activity is the primary language of liberals who want to be hateful jesters.

PLEASE

please please please nominate this woman in 2012!  she is comedy gold and hse never lets up.  everyone blames the media for how shes portrayed without ever taking note to the fact that none of this stuff is made up.  its all on video and very well documented.  ill be the first to say that its a bit dissapointing to know that there are some smart worthy candidates in the republican party, but this woman seems to have more backing than any of the others.  i would prefer a repub who actually has ideas as opposed to just talking points a nice smile and a wink so there can be options to vote on but she would make it alot more fun to watch.  comedians and talk show host all over the world will have a blast and people like me (who enjoy laughing) will go to bed with a smile.

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
-- Martin Luther King Jr

afanofcommonsense---

If you enjoy laughing, how to you keep from choking to death on laughter as you, of all people,  type in "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity"?

The humorous aspect of the irony alone would knock a bull elephant on its' ass.

MD

"There is no distinctly American criminal class - except Congress."

Mark Twain (1835-1910)

OK

yea your comment doesnt really deabte anything i said so i really dont know how to respond.  maybe you dont have anything to argue so you just fling insults? i dont know.

and personally i think its a valid quote by a very important man. so get back to me and let me know if you wanna debate my initial comment. and remember you get what you give so try and keep it civil.

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
-- Martin Luther King Jr

Wow, crap in his brains is

Wow, crap in his brains is back!

so i really dont know how to respond.  maybe you dont have anything to argue so you just fling insults?

Is that your response to everything, even when there are reasonable arguments?

Remember, you told me you had crap for brains, not me.

So, afanof,

you prefer repubs that have "ideas as opposed to just talking points, a nice smile and a wink"?  How about the guy that I'm sure you had erotic dreams over?  What did he have, other than "talking points, a smile and a wink"?  And, really, we're shocked that you'd openly make fun of yourself with that tag line.  But, by all means, keep on using it.  

erotic dreams?

wasnt NB scolding olbermann for saying stuff like that?  and personally i thnk the tag line fits, but too keep this civil and classy i just wanna say that i had no such dreams about the current admin and i dont like alot of what theyve done.  as far as the last election... for me it was all about voting for the lesser of two evils.  and once she entered the race my mind was made up.

and correct me if im wrong, but our current leader stood infront of basically the whole GOP not long ago and spoke about his ideas and kinda left the opposing side with egg on their faces cause they couldnt say to his face what theyve been saying to the media outlets.  i would looooove to see princess palin attempt to do the same. i  mean really? shes still on birth places (who really cares anymore) and death panels (that dont exist).  and not to mention the big gotcha question "what do you read?" that was so carefully crafted by the left wing media.  like i said before. this stuff is hilarious and i enjoy laughing at her. keep it up sarah!

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
-- Martin Luther King Jr

Did you get

your talking points from the DNC or MSDNC?  Egg on their faces?  Only if you watched it on the left's stations.  

The death panels are still in the bill, which is on life support now.  Read it, if you can find it.  And, nope, I won't do your work for you.  Find out for  yourself.

So, you think Joe Biden was so much better?  Apparently, even O doesn't agree with you on this.  Can you say, "exile"?  Cuz that's where Joey is.  Except when he goes to a basketball game.  

As for your tag line, that's the only point of agreement we'll see, it certainly does fit...........you. 

upNorth---

ooh-rah!

Dumb Child (Doug Wild) - Thumped.

ADK-------------------------- Stumped.

afanofidiocy-------------------Chumped.

Threefer in one thread.

I am impressed.

Cheers!

MD

Thank you,

sir. Now I have to go shovel 4 inches of blowing, drifting global warming from my driveway.  Cheers, and later....

ADK--------------------------

ADK-------------------------- Stumped.

Please clarify. 

ADK---

You are a fellow Californian.

I chose to use the least offensive word for you out of respect.  :^)

How am I "Stumped', you ask?

Please clarify.

Your 14:52 post was full of questions.

Gotcha.

Cheers to you too, Theodore.

MD

If by "stumped" you mean

If by "stumped" you mean "confused" by UpNorth's flaccid argument over Colbert/Stewart's dependency on profanity for laughs, then yes.  Call me stumped. 

California Uber Alles, bro.

cmon you can do better than

cmon you can do better than that.  has fox news tricked you into actually thinking there are "death panels" out there ready to tell you if you can live or die.  whats on the bill is no different from what the greedy insurers do now and both you and i know it.  to make it even clearer take a step back and think about the fact that no other politician other than her is still trying to make this point.  and actually i was watching it on FNC to see what nonsense they were gonna puke out afterward but i had to switch channels cause they were so emberassed that they had to cut the feed early.  a republican aide even stated that it shouldnt of been televised.  kinda llike how they edited the hell out of the orielly stewart interview.

and the reason i say they had egg on their faces was cause not one coward politician asked about death panels, birth certificates, socialism, marxism etc. you know? all the things you hear about on FNC.  all the talking points had no chance with him in the room. what were they gonna say?  "hes rasing taxes on the middle class" when we all know its not true.  not once did he ignore a question, nor did he ever find himself speechless.  if im wrong please give the proof. and call me crazy but all reports indicate that there was no teleprompter for him when he took all those questions.  i would pay to see her do the same with the people she disagrees with. she cant even handle couric.

and as far as "joey" goes. im trying to figure out where i even mentioned him. do you enjoy putting words in another persons mouth?  what i was saying is that what we have now is waaaaay better than the other option we had.

and again with the tag line?  its really meant towards people like her who make fools out of themselves on a regular basis, and like MD whos too much of an idiot to even make an argument of his own.  hes just leeching off of yours and all hes doin is childish name calling.  (so thats what he gets in return) what a loser!

im gonna end it on this.  like i said before. PLEASE nominate this woman. i beg you all!  it will be hilarious to watch and she wont have a chance.

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
-- Martin Luther King Jr

You can't be serious!

Fox news tricked us about "death panels"?

I love how Palin drives you leftists insane.  She came up with a beautiful little two word metaphor to describe exactly what Obamacare was all about...the government inserting itself into your relationship with your healthcare providers....and that's the best you can come up with?   Yet here you are spouting DKos talking points. 

Oi!

'Tis not a Summit, but a Submit. ~ Crash on Obama's Health Care Robot Theatre 

 

 

insane?

who is she driving insane?  ive said more than once on this page. NOMINATE HER PLEASE! she is comedy gold! and she didnt come up with the beautiful little two word metaphor. betsy mccaughey did. and she got laughed off a few tv shows before she decided to stop showing up on tv.

and youre trying to tell me that the WHOLE concept of obamacare is about death panels and inserting the government into your relationship with your healthcare provider. i take it your talking about the public OPTION(key word option).  theres nothing else in the bill? just death panels and the public option?  im sorry but i disagree. and dont get me wrong i dont agree with whats been goin on with this bill either and i feel let down by what hasnt been accomplished.  but im sure that theres not gonna be a panel telling you, me, a baby, or any elderly human that they cant go on living.

psss thanks for responding like a respectful adult.  i really mean that cause i dont see alot of that around here.

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
-- Martin Luther King Jr

Drone

 and she got laughed off a few tv shows before she decided to stop showing up on tv.

What, I just watched her for about an hour on cnn, Fox and Cspan.

 WHOLE concept of obamacare is about death panels and inserting the
government into your relationship with your healthcare provider. i take
it your talking about the public OPTION(key word
option).

So when they force the privet sector, (insurance co) out of the health care industry, that will make the "public option" mandatory. Never mind the huge fines and jail time to violators. Were you not paying any attention?

  theres nothing else in the bill?

Of course not, thats why it over 2000 pages.

 psss thanks for responding like a respectful adult.

Why dont you try responding like an informed adult?

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Common sense or common stupidity

Here's your proof.  I really tire of ignorant leftists repeating ignorant leftist talking points and not bothering to actually read what someone said.  Kos, HuffPo, and the NYTimes are not reliable sources.

The Democrats promise that a government health care system will reduce the cost of health care, but as the economist Thomas Sowell has pointed out, government health care will not reduce the cost; it will simply refuse to pay the cost. And who will suffer the most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course. The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s “death panel” so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their “level of productivity in society,” whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil. 

In case you don't recognize it, I will tell you that is Sarah Palin's original statement on the issue.  Since you likely can't read, I will explain.  She did not refer to any specific portion of any specific bill, but to the inevitable rationing that would occur and the process as expounded by Ezekiel Emanuel.

Here's her entire post: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=113851103434

Would you like some bacon to go with the egg on your face ignoranus? (I spelled that exactly as I intended; it's satire) 

If it's not the Crusades, it's the cartoons

proof of what?

heres my proof of what?  that she said there would be death panels?  i already knew she said it.  is what this moron says automatically true just cause she said it?  of course not. 

i didnt need an ignorant right winger to tell me what another ignorant right winger said. i already knew she said it. shes said it more than once i believe. and please enlighten me on what are actual reliable sources so i can laugh even more.  and nice shot with the "since you likely cant read" shot. you really got me there! how old are you?

and there are some other points ive made in previous comments that you fail to respond to and i think i know why. and in case you didnt know saitre is supposed to be funny.  watch colbert and learn. and like i said PLEASE RUN THE WOMAN! PLEASE!

 "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
-- Martin Luther King Jr

afanofidiocy---

No caps.

 How old are you?

PDS.

Same old, same old, same old.

Liberal troll tripe.

You're not only stupid, you are boring.

Luckily for you, some NBers are retired and have acquired mucho patience through dealing with kids, grandkids, and neighborhood juvenile delinquents.

That also allows us to speak with you in your native tongue, lobotimized Liberalese.

MD 

 

matthewdean, No

matthewdean,

No caps.

How old are you?

Maybe they're a big fan of e. e. cummings.

Just throwin' it out there.

hydro---

Thank God!

I was afraid no one was going to save me.

I.could.not.tear.myself.away.

I felt like I was clubbing a baby harp seal.

Oh, the bestiality!

e.e. cummings?

A distinct possibility.

With perhaps a little Lewis Carroll and Louisa May Alcott as well.

Gracias, amigo.

MD  

pointless

ok so this is getting redundant. i post a comment. you get all huffy and puffy about it and respond with childish name calling and verbal insults.  you follow me around when i respond to other comments and do the same thing.

so whos being juvenile?  let me guess... you think by using words like "lobotimized liberalese" it makes you sound smart?  get over it old man!  you cant even bring yourself to try and debate tha actual issues that are being discussed.  youre just another one of the crazies on here that are intolerant of other peoples views and dont know how to handle it in a mature adult manner.  people like you are exactly who MLK was referring to in this statement.

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
-- Martin Luther King Jr

Hmmm,

project much, Afan?  An ageist, name-calling, intolerant liberal?  But, you do live up to the tag line you've adopted.

"People like you"?  That's awfully close the prejorative "you people".  And you've yet to address the comment about Ezekiel Emanuel's comment on the effect of this so-called health care bill.  Eagerly awaiting your spin on that.  

You'll still be

You'll still be awaiting his spin.  Since he personally told me he has crap for brains, it'll take him a while to come up with his own logic without the help of liberal talking points.

you again?

i told you what?  werent you the one asking me to leave cause i was right and able to bait some fools into acting like children?  the one who said name calling was "juvenile" and told me to go away? 

so answer me this crap for brains.  whats your take on the issue at hand?  what talking points are you gonna bring up?  i laugh at you all but yet im starting to feel sorry for you at the same time.  is this what our country has become?  intolerance and hate so deep that no actual conversations can be had unless everyone agrees?  let me guess. the war protesters were unpatriotic but the current protesters are "real americans" who should be heard?  what a joke.

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
-- Martin Luther King Jr

Oh, please, give me a

Oh, please, give me a break.  YOU'RE the one that's the crap in his brain, and YOU'RE the one that has to answer for your trollness. You know my viewpoint, and I don't have to elaborate. And if you don't believe me, check out MD's post. That is all. You may go now.

patience man, patience.  i

patience man, patience.  i have things to do not to mention all the crazies that i have to respond to. 

and here we go again.  so let me ask you.  if someone responds to a comment of mine with insults and name calling how am i supposed to respond to them?  just because im a liberal i dont get to call people names the way you do? in fact go back and youll notice that i usually use the same insult that was thrown at me back to the reponder just so you all can realize how immature you all sound. 

and yea i did respond to it. before i responded to any of the other clowns that got bakc to me while i was out.  but just to clarify how i feel about it ill say that what i get out of what emanuel said is a lilttle different than what good ol palin gets out of it.  he refers to times when treatment and care are at a shortage and not on an everyday basis. now thats what others and me get out of it and obviously she gets "death panels" out of it.  i agree to disagree with her on it and i feel she is very very wrong and is using it to scare people into thinking that when they get old they are gonna have to worry if they are gonna be let slip away.  like i said before. even most right wing politicions know that there will be no death panels so unlike her theyve dropped it already.  above all like everything else in life we dont know what will happen and if what emanunel is saying is even true. good enough?

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
-- Martin Luther King Jr

Troll alert. Sound familiar?

sajc05: stop trying to scare people about death panels and let's have a honest debate about the costs of health care and how we can fix it.

sajc05: palin is the problem. she just goes around screaming "death panels" and has nothing of actual substance to say because her depth goes only as far as her prepared talking points will let her.

Can we ban this retread now?

afanofidiocy---

The whole point at this site is to respond to the postings of others.

If you choose to post here, fine.  Don't whine.

Do you not understand the mission of NewsBusters?

"Exposing and Combating Liberal Media Bias."

The rules here do not state that afanofcommonsense gets to slide because he is not a Media member.

The rules here do not state that afanofcommonsense gets a pass because he is a Liberal.

Do you suppose that Liberal Bias in the Media is caused by Conservatives?

The answer, Junior Birdman, is no. 

It is there as a result of Liberal infestation.

You come on board here, spouting Liberal claptrap, insulting a fine Conservative woman like Sarah Palin, channeling your Liberal talking points through tightly clenched jaws and teeth and squeezing so hard to push out a brain fart that you end up soiling your pants, and still cannot come up with anything original or substantive.

You refer to me as "old man" as though I am supposed to quake in  awe when faced with your awesome ability to instill fear in your opponent.

You are a Liberal ass water carrying lackey.

I don't get huffy and puffy; you are just too juvenile and inexperienced to read both between the lines and the individual words of my posts to sense the absolute loathing I feel for you and your type of "hide behind the keyboard" debate artist.

You are actually so monumentally stupid, and galactically impressed with your ability to "debate the issues", that you can't even see that you have no issues.

You bring up the same tired old crap over and over again.  You present nothing of importance, nothing of substance, and debate even less.

What you label "debating an issue", an experienced person deems "spewing bullsh*t." 

I spend a lot of time here at NBs, so don't flatter yourself that I "follow you around."  You just keep turning up like a bad smell, a miasma of Liberal diarrhea, so I, like a good Conservative, pinch my nostrils and come after your insipid crap in order to remove the putrid odor.

Imagine that, Liberal piss-ant troll; gettin' your head knotted and your brain besotted by an old man who is, according to you, crazy, and types with one finger while typing so as to hold his nose in order to avoid your stench.

While I am not intolerant of others' views, I will not stoop to using short words to insure that some mediocre wordmeister troll can understand me.

Know this, Liberal dolt; for as unimpressive as you are, for as low as your self-esteem obviously is; Martin Luther King, Jr. would be ashamed to see his beautiful words claimed by one as ugly on the inside as you show yourself to be.

MD  

BRAVO, MD!!!

BRAVO, MD!!!

Thanks Bretzy---

   :^)

 

MD

I think I'll start using

I think I'll start using this comment as a reference for any troll.  Not sure what the link is though.

Bretzy, what link---

is that?

MD

wait

werent you the troll that tried to scold me last week about using words like "idiot" and "moron"?  and this is the stuff that your alright with?  no wonder you all like palin.  i guess hypocrites stick together.

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
-- Martin Luther King Jr

Hypocrite? You're the one

Hypocrite? You're the one who claims to be "the fan of common sense", yet you're the one with the liberal talking points. 

 

Again, why are you here?  To troll, that's all you're here to do.  You're not hear to enlighten us, or be enlighten us, so get out of here and crawl under your bridge. 

Bravo indeed MD

Second that.

Wow MD that must have taken forever to type with 1 finger ;-)

and turning caps on and off for correct punctuation! 

I left the Republican party because the Republic party went to the LEFT of me.

LOLOLOLOLOL

i tell you MD i knew you had some loose screws before but holy crap this post takes it to a whole new level. 

yes i choose (and love) to post here. and i dont know when i was actually whining about anything.  i just like to point out that my comments usually get people like you to show a very sad side of themselves.

and i could care less about the mission of newsbusters.  im not here to serve any bs mission or live by the pathetic standards you think i should.  im here for my own entertainment.

and what rules are you referring to? and when did i ask to be let slide?  and slide from what?  having crazies call me names just caues i posted my opinion.  is someone gonna come get me?  and as far as hiding behind a computer. what am i hiding from?  i would say these same things to you if we were in person as i have to a few before.  i will say face to face debate is usually a bit more civil than what you display when you "hide behind your keyboard."  i bait you all and it works to perfection every time.  if i get a valid respectful response they get one back. so im real simple to understand. for example:

you called me juvenile, so i called you an old man.  you see how it works?  ill give you some time to figure it out. and if you dont like what i say be an adult and move on to the next post. 

and the issue i was bringing up was palin running in 2012 and why i thought she wouldnt win. and also that there are other smart repubs that im sure could do a better job.  but you are so monumentally stupid to realize that so you start with the crap flinging.  and as far as debating even less. in my book the only way to be called an idiot just for having a different opinion is to call the responder an idiot back.  and i know a hell of alot of "experienced persons" and none of them consider it to be spewing anything.

and nothing you have said has "besotted" me.  maybe from laughter but thats about it.  nothing on this site scares me. i enjoy it. and my self esteem is just fine knowing how i get SOME of the idiots on this site to show how hatefilled and sad they really are.

JUST LIKE YOU!  the king would be proud. 

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
-- Martin Luther King Jr

Troll alert. Sound familiar?

sajc05: can't let the repubs own our vote like the dems own the black vote

sajc05: he rips repubs and dems, not just one or the other

When will we ban this retread?

afanofidiocy---

No loose screws here. 

You're just flapping your jaw, shootin' from the hip as usual.

Same old BS.  You get no points.

You don't recall whining?  Well of course you don't. 

Check your 02-09-10 18:07 ET post. 

You whine that I "follow you around." 
Nope. As I said, I live here.  Your odoriferous posts pop up all over, begging to be sanitized. 

You whimper that I "respond with childish name calling and verbal insults."
Grow up.  Earn the right to enter into discourse with the adults on this site.  If verbal insults bother you, don't say puerile things that draw barbs like a magnet.

You pule that I "can't even bring myself to try and debate the actual issues."
All you bring to the venue is Palin Derangement Syndrome.  Period. That is not an issue with me;  it is rather a disease that is lurking and lingering in the solid bone mass between your Liberal troll ears even as I type this.  It is metastisizing towards a fatal denouement. Luckily for you, without gray matter to feed on, the process is extremely slow between the aural vents, much like you yourself.

You mewl that I'm "just another one of the crazies on here that are (sic) intolerant of other peoples' views and don't know how to handle it (?) in a *mature adult* manner."
Extremely poor sentence structure; your presumptive case sucks; *mature adult* is redundant.
Point:  Since you are terminally immature, it was necessary to lower myself  in the direction of your comprehensive ability.
Rather difficult to speak maturely with a pre-pubescent life form.
Trolls do not have the experience level necessary to deal with an adult. 
Speaking of level, a level three troll such as yourself would'nt recognize *mature* if it bit him in the ass. 

Pay attention now: but you are so monumentally stupid to realize that so you start with the crap flinging.  and as far as debating even less.
You actually typed those sentences like that.  Pitiful.  Not to mention you plagiarized monumentally stupid from my post.
Piteously poor form, pinhead.  Conjure up your own verbiage.

"You think by using words like "lobotomized liberalese" it makes you sound smart?
Absolutely.  Not only that, it's a twofer.  I sound smart and piss you off at the same time.

Ok.  Time to take it on home.

nothing on this site scares me.
Considering what you have to look at in the mirror on a daily basis, I would be surprised if anything on this planet scared you.  Outside of a bar of soap and some deodorant maybe.

So, trollster, a little advice---

Rather than relentlessly complaining, buckle down, burn some midnight oil and hit that Troll Handbook hard. 

Concentrate on Section IV, ppgs. 36-77 (inclusive), get that level two troll certificate, and come on back and try once again to keep up with the Big Dogs, as it were, here at NewsBusters.

MD

 

 

 

MD

That also allows us to speak with you in your native tongue, lobotimized Liberalese.

:D :D

 

I'm not looking for anyone's pity. - Jer
There have been studies. - Jer

You are the moron

What she says is not automatically true.  It is the logical outcome of the precise economic forces which she described and Emanuel confirmed.  Try refuting the logic instead of begging the question. 

Sarah and I are ignorant, but the original source is not more reliable than Kos, HuffPo, or whatever leftwing crap you read?  Yes I got you.  And, I'm old enough to take care of myself against the likes of you intellectually, physically, and really for sure emotionally.

As to points you have made in previous comments, you will have to state them to me.  I have a real job in the real world.  I don't have time to hang around here all day perusing posts to see if you made a valid point once.

Yes, you and the Democrats and your psycho-phants (yes, I intended to spell it that way) in the media keep claiming you want Sarah to run; Methinks the lady doth protest too much.  I sincerely hope you get your wish.

Get back to me when you have some actual evidence you think you can cobble together into an argument.  Excuse me if I don't hold my breath. 

If it's not the Crusades, it's the cartoons

still laughing

calm down there crazy!  i really dont think what shes says is a logical outcome and i think the same of emanuel.  i think theres no way of knowing and as weve seen in the past most  of the people who predict logical outcomes are often wrong.  so what evidence do you have?  maybe shes wrong about the economic forces you and her are referring to.  everything ive posted is my opinion. and i will never ever believe what that moron of a woman has to say. there are no death panels and we all know it. if they were on there im sure cantor and all the other repub stooges would still be on it just like they were about the public option.

and as far as your sources that was my point. your source is no more reliable than mine.  "And, I'm old enough to take care of myself against the likes of you intellectually, physically, and really for sure emotionally."  do you know me? i dont think you do. i would be aware if i knew a person as crazy as you.  so wheres your evidence moron?

and yes. i really really really want her to run.  i watch colbert, stewart, and maher as much as possible and i really enjoy laughing.

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
-- Martin Luther King Jr

i watch colbert,

stewart, and maher as much as possible and i really enjoy laughing. 

I'd guess that you get your news and your talking points from them, also.  

calm down there

calm down there crazy! 

Talk to me, not yourself.  Others can read what you post. 

i really dont think what shes says is a logical outcome and i think the same of emanuel. 

You already said what you think.  I asked for evidence and some facsimile of a cogent argument.  If you don't know what that means, perhaps you can get someone to explain it to you. 

so what evidence do you have?

You mean besides the statement of the president's advisor on healthcare and our experience with government involvement in healthcare to date? 

there are no death panels and we all know it. 

Seriously, how stupid are you?  I posted Palin's article so you could see that she did not say there were any now, or that they were a specific part of any particular bill.  They are the inevitable outcome of the forces she and Emanuel describe.  You even appeared to understand that two points ago, and then you repeat the same stupid liberal lie.

I despair of being able to logically argue a point with someone who can't even remember what he's already claimed he understood.

and as far as your sources that was my point. your source is no more reliable than mine. 

Please explain how a secondary source reporting what Palin wrote is more reliable than what she actually wrote.  This should be fun.

i watch colbert, stewart, and maher as much as possible and i really enjoy laughing. 

I laugh at them too, for the very same reason I am laughing at you.  You are a joke lacking in logic, facts, or the emotional maturity to respond with a logical argument.  You may return to your bridge now.  We have entertained the troops enough for today.

If it's not the Crusades, it's the cartoons

wow!

where to begin?  my point is that im reading the same thing you are.  thats why i said your source is no more reliable than mine cause its the same thing. i never said what i read. you said what it was but not me.  we just interpret it differently.  you take what she says based on the emanuel papers and i think she misunderstands things and makes her own logic out of it.  theres a difference between times of rationing medication and treatments and putting someone up in a panel on an everyday basis to see if theyre worth giving treatment to.  and yes the good doc can be wrong as most humans can often be.  thats why there is no evidence.

and as far as what you despair.  well you seem to really be into responding to me and at length.  whats sad is that this is actually a good debate that couldve been two people that agree to disagree.  but some people get childish then get upset when they get it right back. 

and much like stewart, colbert, and maher i enjoy seeing the way you all fly off the handle and take every chance i get to laugh and make fun of you all.  it really is enjoyable.  and they are alot smarter than alot of people on both sides of the isle and they show it very very often.  so get over it. "you may return to your bridge now"  if you dont like it stop responding like a child and move on.

"Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
-- Martin Luther King Jr

If Martin Luther King were

If Martin Luther King were alive today, he would consider you the most dangerous man on earth.

What she says is not

What she says is not automatically true.

No, but it sure scares people, doesn't it? Grabs their attention. 

What she says, bal---

apparently only scares, bothers, insults, hurts the feelings of, enrages, and makes turn red in the face,

liberals. 

MD

I'd say "death panels" got a

I'd say "death panels" got a lot of people everywhere afraid of something that "wasn't necessarily true."

balboa

Your right.The goverment wouldnt refuse medicine to a person.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5517492&page=1

Sounds like the insurance

Sounds like the insurance agency refused it, too. 

When Insurance Companies

When Insurance Companies refuse or screw up treatment, recourse is via the Gub'mint.

Where does one go to for recourse when the maker of the rules and those that adjudicate the rules are one and the same?

You seem like an intelligent lad, appearing to have thought things out, and you can't be naive to these discussions since this topic has been extensively posted on in the past, so I am unsure if you are just contrarian or plain hopelessly dense.

I've stayed away from almost

I've stayed away from almost every insurance thread. Not really interested in that argument for the most part. 

Then you and I shall

Then you and I shall consider you now informed of the practical implications and results of Palin's allegorical "Death Panel" comment.  I will hold you now to a more enlightened level on this matter.

To complete you tutorial, two links for perspective and fact:

It is critical to know the players and their published healthcare ideas/plans, specifically Tom Daschle and Ezekiel Emanuel.  Their paradigms kick the proverbial can down the ideological Left side of the road far down the Statist highway.

Try Blonde's TWO threads on healthcare for improving your ACT scores on healthcare and potential reform.  (Thread 1 and 2)

balboa

The point was the state refused it.They did offer to pay for Doctor assisted suicide.

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=67565

bal--hellooooo bal---balbo-uh---balboa---

well99 has something for you.

MD

afanofcommiesh*t, Why, exactly, can you government-skooled...

...myrmidons not start a sentence with a capital letter?

Did your Postal Service reject "teachers" count off for it or something?

Yet you are in here referring to other members as "morons."

-Dave

Thanks, Obama.

 

Much like the user kangaroo

Much like the user kangaroo (who also never used punctuation).

ADK, Do yourself a huge favor and keep roo out of this

Trust me.

-Dave

Thanks, Obama.

 

afanofidiocy---

Your tag line?

What a brilliant ploy to draw the unsuspecting conservative posters deep into your web, so that you can pounce, overcome, and then thrash them so severely with verbal ripostes that they will never, ever, should you decide to be big hearted enough to set them free, darken your post threshold again.

Only problem with your strategy is, you place the tag line at the end of your post.

By the time most people get to the tag line, the insipid, monotonous, and repetitious droning used to verbalize your brain farts make it most obvious that the tag line is not your mantra, but rather a self-description.

MD  

Hmmm

I used to despise commentators like Stephen Colbert, Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews and others like them. Now, I just feel so very sorry for them. They don't realize how foolish and petty they sound ... or they realize it and don't care, which is worse. Either way, it's pretty pathetic. We should all take pity of these simple-minded folks who can't express themselves in any other way.

Can you say Lawsuit??

Sue them for Slander. Period. 

"For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security."

Colbert / Man of Honor

What a man Colbert is....a gentleman and a scholar.....I man who speaks his mind.....a man who has the strength of character to stand out as a unique voice.....a man whose intellectual breadth and spiritual depth cast light in a dark, cynical world.....A man who is a champion of free speech....a responsible, evenhanded and articulate observer of political affairs....a man who respects and defends women and children.

NAAAAAAAAAAAAA!.....Colbert's just another wimpy court jester in a long line of wimpy court jesters who needs his can kicked around the block for drill....a little boy who never made it to manhood who likes to insult and attack women....a simpering little puffball who if confronted with the base, denigrating things he's uttered about Palin would wet his pants and melt into the gelatinous mass of cowardice that he is....nothing a little backhanded slap wouldn't solve.  How 'bout it Stephy, I'm up for a little clock cleanin. What say you?

Now that's funny! 

Re Colbert's Peak

Colbert peaked as Mr. Goodwrench, and it's been downhill ever since.

Really. From a commercial to

Really. From a commercial to a TV show, but THAT was the peak. What kind of mountains do they have in your neighborhood? 

This just in

I have it direct from an anonymous source, that Palin was not reading notes off the palm of her hand during that interview. The fact is there was a booger on the arm of that chair, and she was staring at in disgust. Now look at that tape. Is she reading the writing on her hand or staring at a booger? I think the answer is obvious,  Palin has been unjustly attacked for using a hand prompter. It is apparent she is a victim, a victim of an errant booger.

WDN- 44

 

R-word Vs. N-word

Well, let's see. Some libs have asked why can Rush use the R-word, but not Emmanual. Others explained it's how the word is used in context. All while the libs cried "it's doesn't matter",  a word is a word. Interesting, has any one of these bleeding heart limo libs even stepped into the inner city or listened to a rap song? I ask because the N-word is said in almost every other line. It means friend, foe,  person, etc., Since that is OK. I never heard from a lib it isn't. Then, obviously words are all about context.

You are right on bro!

"Conservatives" should demand their right to use the n-word with the "retard" word. Stand up for your rights, brother. You should be able to say "f**king retarded n**ger". Make it the platform of the next convention.

You go, man, you're a patriotic Amurican.

This post was sarcastic. The post before it , wasn't.

WDN- 44

 

Lil Olbie

Holeinthehull

What you think is funny and acceptable in the studio doesn't wash with the general public. Your humor is lame, stale and easily forgotten.

It is apparent that you have turned into Olbermann's little brother who aspires to be just like his "big brother" with a foul mouth and hatred to spare. 

Little Olbie, your ratings will be headed downward as you begin to scrape along as a bottom feeder in the race to futility

Yea

 We make good retard jokes.They make bad retard jokes. Our retard joke are funny. Their retard jokes aren't funny.

This post has been sarcastic. The one before it, wasn't.

WDN- 44

 

Here's an interesting video

Here's an interesting video. But like Limbaugh, it might take the full 10 minutes to get it. Do you have the guts to watch it for 10 minutes?

Defend your God given "conservative" politically incorrect right to call "retards" retarded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0oJhq39oaE

Here another one

Do you have the guts to watch it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JXiA4IFPas

Here' another one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hOO2PwRWA0

No, these people don't have enough to deal with. They should have to deal with "retard" as long as its SATIRE.

WDN- 44

 

So what do you

think of Emmanuel using the word? And then tell me that if Emmanuel hadn't used it, that Rush would still have the occasion to use it. Why focus on Rush, when he was just playing with what Emmanuel said? That the media bias for you.

You trot out: "look at how hurtful that word is!" when that was the side that Sarah represented. And you can't bring that same umbrage against Emmanuel. It's a loaded game of Gotcha.

Opinions: Sarah shouldn't have said it was OK. Rush often crosses the line. The R-word pledge is silly. And Emmanuel doesn't need to lose his job, that he has exposed his crassness is enough for me. 

I thought it was offensive

I thought it was disgusting, just as I thought Obama's "special olympics" quip was disgusting. I thought it was as disgusting as the character in "Sling Blade" who referred to anyone different or slow, as "retards." I found it as offensive as YouTube videos about "how to kick a retard." I found it offensive as Rush saying

 

Our political correct society is acting
like a giant insult has taken place by calling a bunch of people who
are retards, retards. So now there’s going to be a meeting. There’s
going to be a retard summit at the White House..

 

I found it as offensive a Palin backtracking on both, her disgust with the vile use of the word, and her pledge to suport the dignity of people with disabilities:

Palin: Rush Limbaugh was using satire to bring attention to what this politically correct ..

Wallace: He used the R-word …

Palin: Used in satire
… I didn’t hear Rush Limbaugh calling a group of people whom he did not
agree with “f — ing retards.” And we did know that Rahm Emanuel, it’s
been reported, did say that. There’s a big difference there.

 

I was as offended as when it was was ignored for a week here until it looked like Palin was going to waffle off her stand against the word.

I was pretty damn offended by the entire lack of morality displayed on the this issue. I was pretty damn offended it was used as something political, and not common decency and an opportunity to show how the "retard" rhetoric is NOTHING but an extension of childish, cruel, bullying. I was offended as when I realized someone would sell their soul to get a call out from Rush Limbaugh and desert the people that bear the weight of "retard," those people in the videos I posted. I'm pretty offended that people who have been victimized by that word for much of their life,  feel a need to only discuss it in PM's , afraid of bucking the jackass herd mentality on this issue.

Yea, I'm pretty damn offended from Emanuel to Noel Shepperd.

Damn offended at what is truly offensive. Damn offended by the lack of morality. Shame on you.

WDN- 44

 

clean up on....

on Aisle 4 Cryin' Out Loud :p .... someone is feigning so much indignation, we have a huge mess here.

 

I'm not looking for anyone's pity. - Jer
There have been studies. - Jer 

No buddy

This one's real.

WDN- 44

 

Your tartuffery does you not credit, sir

Finally found a word stronger than Hypocrite!  Also, backwards (my synonym for 'retard'), you are a pharisaistic, sanctimonious blowhard.  And a woman-hater on top of all that.

PS - if you are so illiterate that you do not understand the term tartuffery or pharisaism - do your own research! :-P

"The moment you concede some small point to liberals, they go to work building an enormous elaborate edifice on top of the first lie." ~Ann Coulter 

Jumpin' Jesus on a pogo

Jumpin' Jesus on a pogo stick!  Look who learned how to use a thesaurus!  I'm proud of ya, BO.  Really, I am.

backwards misanthrope

 

"The moment you concede some small point to liberals, they go to work building an enormous elaborate edifice on top of the first lie." ~Ann Coulter 

Heh... When all else fails,

Heh...

When all else fails, steal a quote from...wait, you're quoting Ann Coulter?  Brilliant.  I've given you way too little credit. 

BO---

saw that word and read it as "Fartsuffery".

I thought, hmm, never heard that word before; but I've been there.

:^)

MD

matthew -

Moliere wrote a play in the 18th century - main character was Tartuffe (also title).  He pretended to be something he wasn't during most of the play.    College drama groups love to put on this play.  Lots of laughs and physical comedy.  That's just off the top of my head.

"The moment you concede some small point to liberals, they go to work building an enormous elaborate edifice on top of the first lie." ~Ann Coulter 

Not me buddy

This site rails against abortion and rightfully so. But here's where we part company. This site thinks its acceptable to label some of those babies not aborted as retards and fodder for disgusting "retard" humor.

"Hahah howl, you stayed too long in the birth canal and now have to wear a helmet to walk -howl!!! RETARD!"

No buddy, my morality doesn't depend on what's politically expedient. I'm not the hypocrite here. I'm not the amoral person here.

WDN- 44

 

Cognitive Dissonance

Nwahs: "Defend your God given "conservative" politically incorrect right to call "retards" retarded."

Nwahs:  "I'm a conservative so I bite on the red meat Rush throws as much as anyone."

http://tinyurl.com/yhhah7k

 

Colbert's home state is South Carolina

So, should your state be proud of you?  

 And, your kids, do you think this is something they should do, too?

How do you treat the other women in your life, who aren't named Sarah or Hillary?   

Finally, the core of the matter - carolina

It took a woman to get to it. Like the mooslims *spit* they love so much, libs *spit* hate women.  They allowed women their little ERA and feminism and joining the workplace and stuff in exchange for the right to indescriminate sex without consequence (abortion, etc. etc.) and for men who prefer other men - gay marraige.  The list is endless when it comes to advantages for lib men.

The visceral hatred for Sarah Palin is rooted in genuine misogyny and the lib women (Behar, NOW, HRC, et. al.) are too psychotically stupid to see it.

But, that's okay 'cause the real feminists (conservative women) will point it out and point it out until it cannot be denied.

 

"The moment you concede some small point to liberals, they go to work building an enormous elaborate edifice on top of the first lie." ~Ann Coulter 

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