A group of journalists stood for many hours in near-freezing temperatures Monday waiting to get into the United Nations climate change conference in Copenhagen.
Marvelously among them was Associated Press science writer Seth Borenstein who regularly reports on the dire consequences of -- wait for it! -- global warming.
Ironically, his articles are so filled with inflammatory hyperbole concerning Nobel Laureate Al Gore's favorite bogeyman that scientists have denounced him.
But before we get there, the Climate Pool reported at Facebook Monday (h/t Tom Nelson):
With U.N. security letting in only those cleared last week, hundreds of accredited delegates, journalists and NGO representatives were left to stand for hours in near-freezing temperatures before being let through. "It was crazy," AP's Seth Borenstein said. "You couldn't leave the line. You couldn't go to the bathroom, you couldn't eat. Then snowflakes started falling. One woman even said, 'if lightning strikes me, would they take me out of line?'"
People started handing out food -- one gave out tangerines, another croissants. A man screamed "I don't need food. I need socks! I'm freezing my ass off out here." At one point, a U.N. official announced the wait would be longer, prompting the crowd to boo and chant "Let Us In!" [...]
Seth himself stepped into the line at 7:55 a.m. and was through at 3:15 p.m., but only after another AP reporter, John Heilprin, "saved my bacon" by persuading a U.N. security guard to go out and fetch him. "John was afraid to go out himself in case they wouldn't let him back in ... the first thing I did when I saw him was give him a big hug. I have never been so grateful to be indoors." Seth's neighbors in line? "Oh they're still out there."
Honestly, you can't make this stuff up.
Doubling the irony, exactly one year ago Borenstein was ridiculed by scientists from around the world for a piece he wrote claiming: "Global warming is accelerating. Time is close to running out, and Obama knows it."
For some reason the link NewsBusters used in its report on Borenstein's disgraceful piece no longer works.
However, those interested can read about his article here, and view some of the denunciations here.
As a humorous aside, what Seth and his fellow journalists could really have used Monday was a little global warming.
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Seth is just chummy with Mike "Hockey Stick" Mann and friends
Tue, 12/15/2009 - 16:36 ET by BluegillFrom Climategate emails
On Jul 23, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Borenstein, Seth wrote:
Kevin, Gavin, Mike,
It's Seth again. Attached is a paper in JGR today that Marc Morano
is hyping wildly. It's in a legit journal. Whatchya think?
Seth
Seth Borenstein
Associated Press Science Writer
Oh the irony.
Tue, 12/15/2009 - 16:50 ET by Dave in Texas"It was crazy," AP's Seth Borenstein said. "You couldn't leave the line. You couldn't go to the bathroom, you couldn't eat."
Well hey Seth, welcome to what the world will be like if you alarmists get your way. You know that stuff like staying warm, going to the bathroom and eating releases CO2, right? That's gotta stop.
Hey Seth, This is the type of treatment you support
Tue, 12/15/2009 - 17:12 ET by richb313Hey Seth, this is the type of treatment you support if you believe in AWG. This is exactly how the governments of the world will treat everyone if all the regulations and restrictions you support go through. So Seth, how do you like "The Brave New World" that you and all your AWG Alarmists have created? Is it woring out OK for you? I know Seth, you are probably too dense to even realise that this is a direct result of your own actions.
Next time Seth, wear your polar bear suit...
Tue, 12/15/2009 - 19:38 ET by Mitch NJ"endangered" animals get the Royal Treatment,
humans get treated like serfs.
Meet the future
it's a pasture.
OMG!!!
Tue, 12/15/2009 - 17:40 ET by DoktorFrankenJust think if algore starts claiming that IRONY causes Globaloney! Uh, I mean Global Warming. Eh, I mean Climate Change. Or is it ''WEATHER''? Whatever it is, algore will find a way to terrorized American children with it. And make a buck, besides!
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Too bad the goracle's limo
Tue, 12/15/2009 - 17:22 ET by Hunter12Too bad the goracle's limo wasn't idling near the line. They could have warmed their hands on the exhaust pipes.
"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Sir Winston Churchill
Wouldn't it be a hoot if
Tue, 12/15/2009 - 18:21 ET by mattmWouldn't it be a hoot if all the APGW pushers froze to death?
Copenhagen
Tue, 12/15/2009 - 18:24 ET by Jerry MackI hope that all the tobacco does not freeze. It is highly possible that global warming has not reached Copenhagen because it used all its' strenght melting the polar ice. That is why according to Als' book, Cuba is under water. I am looking forward to seeing the coatless Polar bears paraded on stage at this meeting.
Your right it was cold some
Tue, 12/15/2009 - 20:31 ET by 24enakYour right it was cold some where on earth, thus global warming isn't real. Just like when it snowed in TX the other day deniers said that global warming isn't real, of course the same day it was in the upper 60's in Boston, which is quite warm for this time of year.
One day of warm weather or one day of cold weather doesn't prove or disprove global warming, it is the global average temperature which is important in determining whether global temperatures are rising or falling.
Thanks 24
Tue, 12/15/2009 - 20:58 ET by cajun2All this talk bout global stuff and caps, I was jus' getting so confused. Thanks so much for clarifying for me.
24enak wrote:
Tue, 12/15/2009 - 21:27 ET by ekslib"it is the global average temperature which is important in determining whether global temperatures are rising or falling."
And, as we all know, temps can rise or fall without mankind causing the change.
Gore should be grateful that the Wisconsin ice sheet melted approximately 11,000 years ago (in a pre-industrial era).
If Al Gore lived in the Tennessee area back then, he would have been using a cave for his home and he would have been hunting mastodon for food.
Warmth can be a good thing.
24e, Almost 10 cold records for every hot one
Tue, 12/15/2009 - 22:29 ET by upcountrywaterhttp://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/usa_weather_records_1...
Here’s a summary:
Record Events for Sun Dec 6, 2009 through Sat Dec 12, 2009
Total Records:
2601
Rainfall:
992
Snowfall:
815
High Temperatures:
36
Low Temperatures:
304
Lowest Max Temperatures:
403
Highest Min Temperatures:
51
Data from NOAA via the HW map generator
If you are feeling colder, It's because it is, (graph)
Once again it is called
Tue, 12/15/2009 - 23:36 ET by 24enakOnce again it is called global warming, not regional warming, or American warming. In my local paper they recorded the avg. temp (highs and lows) and rain fall for the month of November and compared it to the avg of the past. The temperature on average was ten degrees higher for the month of November, does that prove that global warming is real? NO. It is the global average temp that is important. Data for month, let alone six days of data doesn't prove or disprove any thing.
24 It was you that brought up this:
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 00:06 ET by upcountrywaterJust like when it snowed in TX the other day deniers said that global
warming isn't real, of course the same day it was in the upper 60's in
Boston, which is quite warm for this time of year.
I gave you a map covering 5 million square miles it showed record cooling, in a ratio of approximately 10 to 1....
The following graph is an entire solar system in a cooling phase. Is that inclusive enough for ya?
If you are feeling colder, It's because it is, (graph)
Don't even mention that the Sun has no effect on earths weather/climate/...
You gave me a map of six
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 01:36 ET by 24enakYou gave me a map of six days, of 5 million square miles of the nearly 200 million square miles of Earth (thats 2.5% of the Earth).
And I don't know what is the graph is about because it has no labels. What do the numbers on the side stand for, what is the title of the graphs. That graph would score about a D for not having labels. And if it is of the solar system it wouldn't prove or disprove global warming since the solar system chart would have numbers from eight other planets.
It's the energy output of the SUN,
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 02:10 ET by upcountrywaterOH HERE IS A COLD TEMP today, right now...
Calgary beats record set in 1893
Snow cover over North America and much of Siberia, Mongolia and China is greater than at any time since 1966.
China is surviving its most brutal winter in a century. Temperatures in
the normally balmy south were so low for so long that some middle-sized
cities went days and even weeks without electricity because once power
lines had toppled it was too cold or too icy to repair them.
Show me a HOT record will ya! Ummm TODAY
If you are feeling colder, It's because it is, (graph)
That still doesn't disprove
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 10:34 ET by 24enakThat still doesn't disprove global warming, because of the greenhouse effect. The Sun's lack of energy output wouldn't make it cooler on Earth if the Sun's rays are unable to escape the Earth's ozone.
http://www.northcountrygazette.org/2009/12/03/record_high/ I believe this was the same day that it snowed in the south, there were record highs in the northeast.
A day, a week, or even a month of record highs or record low temperatures in a region doesn't prove or disprove global warming.
Ozone?
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 17:02 ET by CobraMan"The Sun's lack of energy output wouldn't make it cooler on Earth if the Sun's rays are unable to escape the Earth's ozone."
Ozone, as well as any other compound, is a terrible greenhouse gas when suspended in the higher reaches of the atmosphere. Do you know why this is? It's because the DENSITY of that gas is too low to effect temperatures. That gas is at near vacume pressures!
Do you know why "CO2" is considered a "green house" gas and why it "traps" heat better than, say, nitrogen? I's because it is DENSER than the primary atmospheric gas, nitrogen. It is that increased DENSITY that traps more heat than nitrogen (as you would know if you ever paid attention during Science class).
If the density of a given gas is low, as it is in the upper atmosphere, than less trapping can occur. Since th density of the upper atmosphere is SO low (near vacuum pressures), it's heat trapping effect is close to zero so gas composition has absolutely NOTHING to do with how much heat is being trapped, there's not enough pressure, not enough density, to make a measurable difference no matter what the gas is comprised of.
You may as well blame the vacuum of space as a "green house" gas, it makes as much sense aa anything you, and Al Gore, has claimed to date.
For all the arguments about ho much CO2 is "contributing" to "global warming," there is one question that has never been explored by the Global Warming crowd. That question is this: Has the density of the atmosphere increased over the last 100 years? If not,and one one has claimed that is has, then there can be NO increase in the trapping of heat by atmospheric composition. For it is pressure, density, that determines how much heat can be trapped by a gas, ANY gas. If there is no increase in atmospheric density, no increase in surface pressure, then there can be no increase in "greenhouse" heat trapping. It's really that simple.
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Global IS regional
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 16:25 ET by CobraMan"Once again it is called global warming, not regional warming, or American warming."
You may not understand this (or admit it, as is more likely), but "global" warming IS reflected in regional temperatures. If so many regional temperatures are running record cold spells, as they are the last two years (and no just in America, for EVERY country is reporting below average temperatures), that indicates that the global mean temperature is dropping and not rising as claimed. even though CO2 levels are rising faster than expected, and accounted, for in the "simulations," also known as "models," that "predict" global warming.
This is because the "global" mean temperature is an AVERAGE of regional temperatures. You can't average a decline of regional temperatures into a mean increase, the math doesn't support it, nor does logic.
Buy, hay, what does logic got to do with Global Warming anyways, right? it's the IDEA that counts, and the idea is to control everyone's energy supply. Once you control a person's energy supply, you control the person. It's just like controlling a food supply. There is no difference for the goal is the same, absolute control over another human being.
How does THAT fit into your "compassionate" ideals? How does THAT fit into your concern for our children? It doesn't fit, unless you believe that Government IS, and SHOULD BE, the controlling force of every single person on earth. If this is true, and you have given me no evidence to the contrary, than I morn for your children for they will reap the sorrow that you are trying to sow upon them and the rest of us.
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Yes. One day of weather follows the previous day's weather.
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 05:27 ET by JWFHey idiot. How come you come in, say something stupid, then flit off like a butterfly to somewhere else. Even dog's are smart enough not to poop where they walk. And cat's cover their poop.
24enak just poops anywhere here on NB and then wanders off like the retard he is. No point in refuting anything he says. He will already be off dropping a fresh turd in some other thread.
Seth Borenstein article available here
Tue, 12/15/2009 - 21:13 ET by ekslibhttp://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=&sc2=news&sc3=&id=84657
Obama left with little time to curb global warming
by Seth Borenstein
Associated Press
Sunday Dec 14, 2008
EKS...three thoughts stand
Tue, 12/15/2009 - 23:07 ET by celatorEKS...three thoughts stand out for me in the article.
1. It's propaganda disguised as an AP news story. AP has been doing this sort of sleight of hand for years now. Most non local news stories in newspapers are AP sourced, so the AP is completely falling down on its fundamental task to tell the truth to its readers. And they know it.
2. "The amount of carbon dioxide in Earth’s atmosphere has already pushed past what some scientists say is the safe level."
This is just more of the "some say" sloppy reporting which, again, AP uses to push its agenda. Pathetic.
3. On the CO2 is "poison" position Seth takes, I am reminded that there were proposals from researchers way back when the "man-made global cooling" scam was being pushed in the late '60's and early '70's, to build "CO2 generators" to create more CO2 in the atmosphere to "save the planet". They stood to gain millions of $ in government funding if the idea was approved. It wasn't.
Gotta watch these scam artists closely.
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Renewable fuels at Copenhagen?
Tue, 12/15/2009 - 22:00 ET by metaphorsbwithuI wonder how the heat inside was generated and how low the thermostats were set.
metaphorsbwithu
They should have
Tue, 12/15/2009 - 22:45 ET by RESTLESS 1Set it up outside, with magaphones and hand created charts and graphs. Anything else, and they are hypocrites.
"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest
GOV Sarah Palin confronted global climate change in Alaska
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 00:16 ET by wjneillAs Governor of Alaska, she stated in Administrative Order 238 dated Sept. 14, 2007, that Alaska must begin planning to meet the challenges of " . . . a warming trend."
http://gov.state.ak.us/admin-orders/238.html
She saw global warming having an impact upon Alaska before anyone else was ready and willing to admit it and she took positive action.
http://www.climatechange.alaska.gov/docs/govrpt_jul08.pdf
Anyone who thinks global climate change is a hoax is going to have to prove Sarah Palin WRONG.
Spamming eh!
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 00:45 ET by upcountrywaterlook here
If you are feeling colder, It's because it is, (graph)
ucw
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 00:47 ET by MightyMouthIt might be a dumbot doing the spamming?
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
MM ,Just some guy itching to drive a green coal burner...
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 00:56 ET by upcountrywaterHas his 600 AMP, 220 v plug in his hand, looking for a place to stick it.
If you are feeling colder, It's because it is, (graph)
Let's go for broke here
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 01:11 ET by MightyMouthLet's go for broke here ucw... get in the car...GM has installed strategically located pressure fittings in the seat.. I am thinking 20 miles per burrito? Whadda think?
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
co generation
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 01:35 ET by upcountrywateryes the speed of the expelled gas, may impinge on a windmill device, then burning it...a 2 for one special..
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A simple magnetohydrodynamic generator consists of a gas nozzle.
If you are feeling colder, It's because it is, (graph)
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false false scott
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 03:31 ET by upcountrywater100 reasons you are wrong
Bjorn Lomborg, there is a slightly inconvenient truth � namely, over
the past two years, global sea levels haven't increased at all. In
fact, they've slightly declined. Indeed, since 1992, satellites have
measured global sea level every ten days down to an accuracy of 3 to 4
millimeters, and have revealed the slight decline.
If you are feeling colder, It's because it is, (graph)
And if your rowboat sinks,
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 11:00 ET by SickofLibsyou could always climb aboard one of your style sheets.
You a climate scientist, there, son? Are you ANY kind of scientist? Or are you possibly just another liberal California hippie? Don't bother, we already know the answer.
FYI, pasting a bunch of crap into a blogpage may make you feel good and impress others in your commune, but it is not going to convince anyone here of anything.
ps: your browser, IE4, is now 13 years old. Think about upgrading to something from this century - it's free!
The Ravings of a Buffoon
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 13:18 ET by StogieGuyPaddling down Market Street in San Francisco? The lowest part of Market Street (by the Embarcadero) is at an elevation of about 25 feet and it quickly rises to 50 feet above mean sea level by the time you reach Sutter Street. Not one climate scientist on Earth, in fact not even that total fraud Algore, has claimed that sea levels would rise that much (basically because such a lie is too big even for them). The warmers' worst case scenarios for sea level rise is generally less than 20 feet. The truth is that sea level hasn't risen more than an inch in 100 years and would not likely rise more than a couple of inches in any of our lifetimes. It may even drop a bit as the Earth COOLS.
Your comment is so typical of those who share your blind denial of facts in favor of hype, self-loathing and political correctness. In other words: you sir are an idiot. A dunce. Basically, you haven't got a clue. In one brief sentence, you've managed to reveal your incredible lack of education in this area. Stick with philosophy or poetry or acoustical guitar or whatever you do and leave climatology to those who actually know something about science.
And Al Gore, if you're reading this - same advice goes for you!
That's right (snort)
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 16:52 ET by CobraMan"humans are responsible for Global Warming"
That's right (snort) for it was Humans, and their earth destroying habit of burning of wood for warmth, and the massive increase of CO2 those fires produced, who caused the mile high glaciers to melt 12 to 15 thousands years ago and caused th sea levels to rise 500 feet in a matter of a few centuries!
Damn those early Humans and their love of CO2 producing fires! Look what they brought us today! We're on the brink of extinction!
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Wed, 12/16/2009 - 11:50 ET by kangarootest
Wimps!
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 13:06 ET by StogieGuyThe temperature in Copenhagen has been hanging around the 30 to 35 degrees Fahrenheit. Cold yes, but hardly sub-zero weather now is it? A half-decent winter coat, hat and gloves should be more than sufficient to keep one warm for hours. Stogieguy can easily puff on fine handmade cigars for hours in such weather....given that it was 4 degrees here last night, the current (above freezing) 34 in Copenhagen would be a nice break.
All this article tells me is that these journalists are a bunch of spoiled, whiny, thin-skinned, ill-prepared little wimps! And, the thing is, I already knew that...but it's nice to see it demonstrated for all to see. In other words, they're typical liberals.
Funny to see what little it takes for them to start crying like little French girls!!!!
Over two years ago, I began questioning the intelligence of the
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 14:39 ET by R D Helm...supporters of man-made climate change.
Now I am questioning their sanity.
This whole thing is such a transparent and obvious scam, anyone with the ability to understand even the basic physics of a flyswatter should be able to see that by now.
It is truly scary that so many are still apparently buying into this lunacy, particularly when you consider the hideous, tyrannical evil that governments all over the world are currently carrying out because of it, and that includes our own.
-Dave
Heheheh
Wed, 12/16/2009 - 19:25 ET by NorthCoasterDon't you just love that Global Warming?
Start breathing hard to generate more CO2. If the AGW rpoponents are accurate the journalist will warm up in a few hundred years.