Did you know the United States Constitution doesn't have a Preamble?
Well, that's what the oh so arrogant, high and mighty MSNBC host Rachel Maddow told her audience Thursday night.
In a segment attacking the attendees of yesterday's "House Call" protests on Capitol Hill, Maddow chided Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) for claiming he was quoting from the Preamble of the Constitution (video embedded below the fold with partial transcript, relevant section at 2:05, file photo):
RACHEL MADDOW, HOST: Congressman Akin was not alone in stumbling over a little basic U.S. history. He had some good company in the top Republican in the House, Minority Leader John Boehner.
(VIDEOTAPE)
JOHN BOEHNER (R-OHIO.): This is my copy of the Constitution. And I'm gonna stand here with our Founding Fathers who wrote in the Preamble, "We hold these truths to be self-evident..."
(END VIDEOTAPE):
MADDOW (waving hands): Nnn, Constitution doesn't have a Preamble. Not. Nope. Stop it. That would be the Declaration of Independence. Ooh.
Actually, Rach, the Constitution DOES have a Preamble, and I doth quote:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
As you liberals so love Wikipedia, in its section titled "Preamble to the United States Constitution":
The Preamble to the United States Constitution is a brief introductory statement of the fundamental purposes and guiding principles that the Constitution is meant to serve. In general terms it states, and courts have referred to it as reliable evidence of, the Founding Fathers' intentions regarding the Constitution's meaning and what they hoped it would achieve (especially as compared with the Articles of Confederation).
Nice call, Rach!
Of course, if she or her crack fact-checking team at MSNBC had done their homework, they would have found "We hold these truths to be self-evident" does indeed come from the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence and not the Preamble to the Constitution as Boehner said.
Alas, when one fact checks, especially as arrogantly as Maddow does, you should be completely accurate or you end up looking like a bigger jackass than the person you're mocking.
That oughta wipe the smug, condescending smirk off her face!
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Well, Maddow was right, in
November 6, 2009 - 10:39 ET by motherbeltWell, Maddow was right, in that Boehner was quoting from the Declaration of Independence.
But that's not what she said; she said the Constitution doesn't have a preamble.
Tonight she will have her excuses ready, to explain why the preamble really isn't a preamble; it's just an opening statement. ;-)
PS Sorry to disagree, Noel, but IMO the first paragraph in the Declaration is not a preamble, but I guess we can differ on that.
And as for her chiding of Mark Levin for making a comment about physical attributes: I guess only liberals are allowed to insult people's looks.
MB
November 6, 2009 - 10:57 ET by Noel SheppardMB,
Well, if we're going to stick with Wikipedia on this just to be consistent and keep our liberal readers happy, the introduction to the DOI is the opening sentence "When in the course of human events."
The Preamble is the following sentences:
Noel, I would have called
November 6, 2009 - 11:09 ET by motherbeltNoel, I would have called the "When in the course of human events..." section the preamble, if anything, as it seems to be an introduction into the reasoning behind the declaration. But I'm not an historical scholar, so that's JMHO.
I have to admit, though, that I've never heard the first part of the DOI referred to as the preamble, as we do the Constitution.
I guess that's a matter of semantics.
But Maddow really is an idiot to not know that the Constitution has a Preamble.
There's even a "Schoolhouse Rock" song about it!! LOL
I still remember the
November 6, 2009 - 12:05 ET by ThatDudeI still remember the preamble, because my teacher played the schoolhouse rock video in my 7th grade civics class. I mocked the silliness of the video at the time, but somehow it managed to implant itself in my brain. Who knew that a liberal public education could actually teach you something real?
Sorry to be a grammer nazi
November 6, 2009 - 12:13 ET by red_dragon311Sorry to be a grammer nazi Noel, but "When in the course of humam events." is not the first sentence, nor is it a sentance at all.
This "When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation." is the first sentance.
I take issue with this all the time with people. Dear Leadrer even said his mother read the DOI to Him as a child, and He even got it wrong.
The issue here is people don't know WHAT the DOI says. ask 100 people and 85 will say it starts "We hold these truths to be self-evident..."
And finaly as any Disney fan knows Amos the mouse, best friend and brains behind Ben Franklin, REALLY wrote the DOI, but Tom "Red" Jefferson borrowed some of it....he couldn't think of a strong enough opening.
Ben and me part 1
Ben and me Part 2
lib-think:
Male/female gender roles, especially the desire of women to be mothers, are purely social constructs. But homosexuality - and every other sexual proclivity - are immutable, ingraned biological desires that cannot be questioned
grammar nazi
November 6, 2009 - 13:22 ET by WarmanWhat on earth are the following,Grammer,sentance,and humam? Sorry but I can't figure out a leadrer either....silly me. Thank's for the lesson
Warman
November 6, 2009 - 13:24 ET by BlondeYou forgot "ingraned".
I love it when the Spelling Police bust the Grammar Nazis....it always makes my day.
:)
I hope he fails, too.
Grammar nazi
November 6, 2009 - 13:37 ET by WarmanMy bad blonde but I have no idea what a male/female gender is. Instead of showing my complete ignorance I'm guessing they're talking about sex.......right?
Who knows, Warman
November 6, 2009 - 14:06 ET by BlondeI wasn't busting your chops, I do find it hilarious when the Spelling Police use bad grammar, or the Grammar Nazis can't spell words properly.
It's even funnier when the miscreant is a troll, trying to be clever. Great stuff!
I hope he fails, too.
I am not a
November 6, 2009 - 14:28 ET by red_dragon311I am not a troll
lib-think:
Male/female gender roles, especially the desire of women to be mothers, are purely social constructs. But homosexuality - and every other sexual proclivity - are immutable, ingraned biological desires that cannot be questioned
Now, now, J and I will decide who the trolls are here at NB
November 6, 2009 - 14:44 ET by R D HelmAfter all, between us we have 8+ years of pinning their hairy behinds to the walls around here. :-)
LOL-We all know you aren't a troll.
-Dave
Our elected representatives have failed us.
thanks man God
November 6, 2009 - 14:49 ET by red_dragon311thanks man
God help you if you try to be civil and give an FYI about grammar or spelling on this site...the backlash could kill you
Good stuff guys!
November 6, 2009 - 18:53 ET by RukusThat's funny stuff guys! Backlash is right! : )
BTW. What's finaly?? LOL! : )
Gary
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wow sorry for not typing
November 6, 2009 - 13:57 ET by red_dragon311wow you are right, sorry for not typing that well, see I have a condition that makes it hard for me to type well...it's called Gotohellnoma. So thanks for making fun and mocking me.
see the thing is I can always get better at typing, or I can just slow down when I type, but you...you will always be a douche.
Notice I said "sorry" which means that I was not at all trying to insult Noel at all, just tossing him an FYI.
lib-think:
Male/female gender roles, especially the desire of women to be mothers, are purely social constructs. But homosexuality - and every other sexual proclivity - are immutable, ingraned biological desires that cannot be questioned
Your tag line, Red_Drag
November 6, 2009 - 14:04 ET by SouthJersey1953I think the point is, you pointed out grammar errors but your tag line is full of spelling errors. See, most posts are done "on the fly" while most people take the time to ensure their tag lines are (at least) spelled correctly.
THAT is what was so funny (to me, anyway) about your addressing the grammar error.
You can fix a lot of things, but, you can't fix STUPID! - Joe Murray
I think he copy and pasted
November 6, 2009 - 14:15 ET by kangarooI think he copy and pasted that from one of chooselife3x dumb ass comments. While shes raving she should be obligated to give her so called old man. (if she even has one) sex in exchange for him marrying her. I guess he ain't getting any cause she always on the blog roflmao
golly gee dragon
November 6, 2009 - 14:10 ET by WarmanThere you were typing away (too fast) and giving a good reply to to noel and I jump in to give one back to you and you lower yourself to name calling (very big of you BTW) and assuming that I was really coming down on you.In case you didn't notice I got a little of it from blonde only difference is I took it in stride and you took the libtard method. I'll just play with the adult posters and leave you with the kids and trolls.You should fit in nicely
"What on earth are the
November 6, 2009 - 14:37 ET by red_dragon311"What on earth are the following,Grammer,sentance,and humam? Sorry but I can't figure out a leadrer either....silly me. Thank's for the lesson"
my goodness...I AM sorry if I mistook this as insulting....how silly of ME.
you'er right there is nothing insulting at all about that reply
lib-think:
Male/female gender roles, especially the desire of women to be mothers, are purely social constructs. But homosexuality - and every other sexual proclivity - are immutable, ingraned biological desires that cannot be questioned
~"Gotohellnoma"
November 6, 2009 - 14:46 ET by choselife3xThat was funny, make it up yourself?
In order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
yes I
November 6, 2009 - 14:50 ET by red_dragon311yes I did...
God help you if you try to be civil and give an FYI about grammar or spelling on this site...the backlash could kill you
I'm not sorry that I get to point out another mistake.....
November 6, 2009 - 18:56 ET by Willis_Leon_Johnsonpolitical bands which have connected them with another
That's 'political BONDS' not bands.
http://gjresult.com
Not preamble in Declaration
November 6, 2009 - 14:16 ET by Quasi-socialistThe Declaration is a statement of grievances. It starts right out with the logical framework for statement. That government is instituted among men to secure the rights endowed by the creator is part of the statement of grievances. It assesses that the crown is not in fulfilment of its duty.
The Constitution has a preamble, separating the purpose of the document from the actual policies that constitute our form of government.
Thus, there is no logical separation between "parts" of the DoI, but a progression from what this document is ("When in the course...."), to general principles behind such things ("We hold these truths....") to specific charges against the crown: "He has refused his Assent to Laws....".
There is a clear, logical separation between the motivation and what is actually proposed for that motivation. In fact, it is doubtful that the preamble is actually part of the constitution, just a statement of what target they were trying to hit with the actual policies chosen.
The Preamble to the Cons. is the text that actually deserves such a name. The DoI has too much of a logical coherence, starting from grounding concepts to particular grievances and declarations, it just does not have the same relation to the text as a whole.
Her excuse could be, "I was
November 6, 2009 - 11:05 ET by rockyracoonHer excuse could be, "I was referring to the frigate also known as Old Ironsides." My bad if I caused any confusion for my 100 or so viewers.
Facts are like kryptonite to the liberal.
"And as for her chiding of
November 6, 2009 - 23:10 ET by marvl"And as for her chiding of Mark Levin for making a comment about
physical attributes: I guess only liberals are allowed to insult
people's looks."
I have always been struck by the fact that conservative women tend to be quite beautiful, while liberal women can only be described as reproductive fodder for extra-terrestrials, and should only be viewed when they have a paper grocery bag over their head. The same seems generally true of men as well. What planet do you suppose Henry Waxman is from?
Weirdos always know better
November 6, 2009 - 10:34 ET by notonmywatchWeirdos always know better than Leaders of Congress on constitutional issues.
She saw a show on the constitution on HBO once. That means she can say whatever she likes on the issue and she is obviously right. Even when speaking to Leaders of Congress.
Is the whole of MSDNC on drugs?
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While I appreciate your
November 6, 2009 - 23:12 ET by marvlWhile I appreciate your sentiment, the notion that "Leaders of Congress" know anything about "constitutional issues" (or anything else for that matter) is poppycock.
Now for the coup de gras:
November 6, 2009 - 10:35 ET by celatorNow for the coup de gras: Maddow has a doctorate from Oxford in..........
POLITICAL SCIENCE
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
Must have been from some
November 6, 2009 - 10:54 ET by ricklailMust have been from some type affirmative action deal-say for her sexual orientation.
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
I think at Oxford they focus on the Magna Carta
November 6, 2009 - 11:13 ET by SickofLibsAnd skip that whole unfortunate colonies thing.
Yea but is she smarter than
November 6, 2009 - 13:52 ET by kangarooYea but is she smarter than a 5th grader???
Maddow
November 6, 2009 - 21:22 ET by Captain KirockMaddow can't be bothered with the DOI or the US Constitution. She spent all her time studying Das Kapital.
What a nutjob
November 6, 2009 - 10:38 ET by CCsteelcityWould someone please tell me how individuals of this kind get on TV and make fools of themselves and then think that they are not getting laughed at.. turn right around and claim to know everything about politics?
"But a constitution of Government once changed from Freedom, can never be restored. Liberty, once lost, is lost forever." - John Adams
I'd be embarrassed.
November 6, 2009 - 10:42 ET by jon_torlinIf I were a normal thinking person, I'd be horrified at making such a statement like that, but then again, I *am* a normal thinking person, I WOULDN'T have made a statement like that. That's the difference.
Ergo, she's not a normal thinking person.
-Jon
hhhmmm
November 6, 2009 - 18:59 ET by Willis_Leon_JohnsonI'm not sure it is 'normal', 'thinking', or even a person.....
http://gjresult.com
Maddow and her other liberal gangstas...
November 6, 2009 - 10:48 ET by stage9don't even follow the Constitution, why would you expect her to know whether or not it has a Preamble?
"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will
be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for
pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner."
— Malcolm Muggeridge
jane you ignorant
November 6, 2009 - 10:50 ET by JIMMY1660slut.
each time emotion(liberals)shows its face-facts(conservatives)get run over. she has never read and studied any of our founding Fathers Papers.It shows.
BHO- THE PROGRESSIVE PIRATE
Madcow is an idiot and an embarassment...
November 6, 2009 - 10:52 ET by Prester John.....but what's Boehner's excuse about saying "We hold these truths to be self-evident..." is in the Preamble to the Constitution?
Everyone has brain cramps, but confusing the Constitution and the Declaration? That is about as basic as you can get.
Ouch, baby. Very ouch.
Hey, Bill Clinton said it
November 6, 2009 - 10:55 ET by motherbeltHey, Bill Clinton said it was "right there in the Constitution"....government of the people, for the people, by the people....
Ever more proof that a "little" knowledge is a dangerous thing.
Not to mention....
November 6, 2009 - 10:58 ET by Prester John...that whole separation of church and state thing.
And the
November 6, 2009 - 11:48 ET by Willis_Leon_JohnsonShall not be infringed.... unless corrupt politicians want to 'infringe' in order to gain full and complete dominion over the People, then it's ok to infringe.
I know, it takes a careful and indepth study to find the little details and quirks.....
http://gjresult.com
Bill's double-headed gaffe
November 6, 2009 - 12:23 ET by Vivaldi5Thanks, motherbelt. I was just looking this up when I saw your comment. In fact, Slick Willie credited both the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence! The quote:
The site entertonement.com offers this hilarious soundbite of Bill's bit of fractured history.
By the way, the five minute clip above, with Maddow trying to clone the Olbermann oh-I'm-so-super-smart-compared-to-these-Republicans smugness, seemed almost interminable to me. I find it hard to imagine even committed libs watching this network night after night--but then I guess when you're committed to the cause, anything is possible.
It's Not That Many
November 6, 2009 - 12:37 ET by rammingspeedVivaldi5 - Only wacko lefty extremists watch MSNBC. There are plenty of people who still foolishly vote for Democrats who are sickened by Ms Maddow and the rest of the crew.
Misattribution vs. Dead Wrong
November 6, 2009 - 16:41 ET by Quasi-socialistWith a misattribution, it's not immediately obvious whether Boehner said the wrong thing or never knew better. The BOD is on that he said the wrong thing. Maddow's game is so gotcha, so oriented to displaying the right as fools, that she states something that is dead wrong as fact, when she's "correcting" Boehner.
Misattributions happen all the time, so harping on them is even pettier than faulting Obama for wearily miscounting (perhaps) territories for states and coming up with 58. Again, we don't know why Obama said 58 states, we just know that he did. At the time, I argued that BOD goes to Obama. But that all the dems playing gotcha games with Bush's misstatements needed to re-assess the validity. The libs responded by apologizing a and ignoring the incident or with some sort of Special Pleading like saying it didnt' create a "pattern". But no attempt to reassess the value of gaffes for fundamental disproofs.
The whole mocking thing that Olbermann and Maddow does is based on a thin premise that were the argument to be more fully stated would be close to a false dichotomy to support an ad Hominem argument. (I maintain that neither Beck nor even Rush do this as a matter of course.)
Whether 1) the fact checker wrote it down wrong, 2) the teleprompter made her say it, or 3) she misunderstood the conversation with her fact-cheker, she said something dumb. Boehner's claim is "Some statement in the Constitutional Preamble is a statement about self-evident rights" and it can be widened to "Some statement in some founding document is a statement about self-evident rights". Maddows is "No statement in the Constitution is a statement contained in a section called a Preamble." as well as "Some statement in the Declaration of Independence is contained in a section called a Preamble." Boenher's statement is particular, but wrong. However it can be widened to the class and be right. Maddow's first statement is already global, so it can't be widened, her particular is only right by argument, and to be more explicit should be expanded with the words "by some scholars". Whether or not there is a legitimate argument for a "Preamble" to the Declaration of Independence, very few educated people can doubt that the Preamble to the Constitution (...) is a much more commonly used and mentioned text. If we qualify Maddow's first statement to make it arbitrarily more accurate, I say that we lose any sense of her second sentence as accurate. If we say that the "Constitution--proper" does not contain a preamble, referring to the Articles, well the DoI has only the salutation that remains outside the body of the declaration, the "preamble" well-embedded.
But if there can be forces that make her say something that is not redeemable except by sheer generousity, it kind of makes her job of reading things with not the slightest hint of intellectual generousity suspect. If there are reasons for her looking totally wrong besides "She's a total idiot," then the assumption is not easily made in lesser and more common situations.
I mean she calls forgetting a word in the Pledge is "botching" it, and includes the Boenher gaffe as a "Congressman Aiken was not alone in stumbling over a little basic US history" Okay, it's basic, so what was the implication to that word when applied to Boehner that isn't double or triple in a basic fact of the Cons.!
What is the purpose in any of this!! But the implication that nobody should listen to somebody--or take seriously somebody--who gets such basic facts wrong. That's the implication on Olby's show as well as Maddows. (Again, Beck's argument has never been as thin.) False dichotomy: No one who misattributes the Constitution can be taken seriously, ad Hominem: because they cannot be taken seriously, whatever they said is invalid.
If allowances can be made for her, she's invalidated her entire job as gotcha girl.
US Constitution has a Preamble - Maddow is MSNBC drone
November 6, 2009 - 21:09 ET by downstateinabluestateMisattribution V. Dead Wrong
November 6, 2009 - 16:41 ET by Quasi-socialist
"we don't know why Obama said 58 states, we just know that he did."
..................................................................................................
Dead Wrong :
Obama said he’s going to campaign in 57 states, and it turns out that there are 57 Islamic states. There are 57 Islamic states. “Every year from 1999 to 2005, the organization of the Islamic conference representing the 57 Islamic states,” this is from the International Humanist and Ethical Union. And the title of the piece here is, “How the Islamic states dominate the UN
human rights council,” and there are 57 of them. So did Obama just fail at math or was this a more telling slip, candidate Obama’s 57 states, not just a simple gaffe. He might have been thinking of the 57 Islamic states when he said he was going to campaign in all 57 states.
Misattribution :
John Boehner was holding a book that contains both the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution.
That oughta wipe the smug, condescending smirk off her face!
November 6, 2009 - 10:52 ET by FranksamI don't watch MSNBC, but wouldn't it be more accurate to say that Rachel has a condescending smirk that should be wiped from half of her face?
I don't know a lot about her medical history, but my understanding is that brain damage is often manifested on just one side of the physique. The brainiacs in the audience can correct me, if necessary.
I don't think anything
November 6, 2009 - 11:10 ET by rockyracoonI don't think anything could wipe that smirk off her face. Her show would have to canceled depriving her the privelidge of her mug in front of a camera in order to smirk condescendingly.
Facts are like kryptonite to the liberal.
half her face tied behind her back...
November 6, 2009 - 14:27 ET by carolina09I don't watch MSNBC, but wouldn't it be more accurate to say that Rachel has a condescending smirk that should be wiped from half of her face?
LOL--that is funny. Man Cow always looks like she's tasting something foul.
That constant smirk of hers
November 6, 2009 - 14:39 ET by bigtimerThat constant smirk of hers she constantly uses belittles everything about her, no matter what the agenda-driven absurdity coming out of her yapper is....
Hey, but Keithie is proud...he was her guide/creator for her hour of leftist blathering propaganda.
'Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea'~Breitbart
It is a preamble
November 6, 2009 - 10:59 ET by SouthernRootsAt least according to my copy of The Constitution of our Country, Rexford and Carson, 1925.
And The U.S. Constitution And Fascinating Facts About It, Oak Hill Publishing Company.
And a text book, We the People The Citizen & the Constitution, Center for Civic Education, 2003.
And Wikipedia, Cornell Law, usconstitution.net, Findlaw, University of Chicago Law School, and many more.
Boehner was wrong in that he was quoting the Declaration. Maddow was totally stupid in claiming the Constitution didn't have a preamble.
I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them. - J.B. Books (John Wayne)
Preamble of the U.S. Constitution
November 6, 2009 - 11:16 ET by jimrunner“
We the People of the United
States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice,
insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to
ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution
for the United States of America."
Rachel Maddow is EXACTLY what everyone thinks she is!!!!!! She's perfect for MSNBC.
Not quite right there AGAIN
November 6, 2009 - 11:19 ET by SeeksTruthThe segment to which you refer was about John Boehner reading from the preamble to the Declaration of Independence and waving "his copy" of the Constitution and claiming what he was reading came from that Preamble. Watching the segment, I didn't hear her say there was "no preamble to the Constitution". Bottom line, your story fails to address that a Republican Congressman didn't take the time to check the actual preamble to the document he was waving all over the place.
ST
November 6, 2009 - 11:25 ET by Noel SheppardST,
Is this a reading comprehension or optometric problem?
Care to try again, Sparky? ns
Noel: try re-posting in italics... see if that helps
November 6, 2009 - 11:36 ET by SickofLibsBut what is it with these lofty-sounding screen names that always seem to be the exact opposite of what they purport?
IT was just looking for an opening
November 6, 2009 - 11:54 ET by Willis_Leon_Johnsoninto the alternate reality of liberalism where words mean whatever the speaker decides they should mean.
Speaking under that particular, "I hope the person learns the true meaning of reality".
Everybody elses accepted understanding of that phrase is most definitely wrong, because, as the speaker, I am the only one that knows and fully understands the meaning.
- nancy pelosi speaking to a group of friends in SF.
http://gjresult.com
A Rhodes Scholar!
November 6, 2009 - 11:19 ET by slickwillie2001Every time this dingbat opens her mouth I lose respect for Rhodes Scholarships. Have they gone the way of Nobels and Pulitzers?
slick, the only thing a Rhodes Scholarship means...
November 6, 2009 - 11:30 ET by R D Helm...is the "scholar" knows more about Marxism/communism than your average, non-Rhodes scholarly lefty.
This means they can awe and dazzle the unsuspecting sheeple with high-sounding psychobabble using all those impressive, multi-syllabic words that make the ignorant masses believe these people care so much.
Think of it as finishing school for aspiring commies.
-Dave
Our elected representatives have failed us.
Look at some of
November 6, 2009 - 12:08 ET by ricklailLook at some of the "scholars." From everything I read about Cecil Rhodes he was a "one worlder." Clinton's mentor Carroll Quigley a protige (?) of Rhodes.
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
rick,
November 6, 2009 - 14:26 ET by R D HelmYep. I recall reading that somewhere a long time ago.
-Dave
Our elected representatives have failed us.
Liberals are Ignorant
November 6, 2009 - 11:22 ET by Free StinkerHow do you know Liberals are Ignorant?
They believe that Sarah Palin doesn't understand the Vice President's constitutional role(when she was spot on), but they listen to this ignorant fool "Constitution doesn't have a Preamble."
Noel, thank you once again! Here is a free slogan that Newsbusters proves every day.
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condescending smirk off her face
November 6, 2009 - 11:24 ET by holeinthehullHoleinthehull
"The smirk" Is that what that is- I thought it was a predisposed genetic defect.
I wish I knew how these creatures stay on cable? The government must be funding these programs and calling it "the arts"
Intellectual Misfit
November 6, 2009 - 11:28 ET by AcoustechWhen your intellect is ruled by hate...
Your world will indeed becomes a hateful place...
Your life becomes empty...
Because hate is all consuming...
Such as this miserable fool Maddow...
That oughta wipe the smug, condescending smirk off her face!
November 6, 2009 - 11:29 ET by BuzzySorry, but it is impossible to wipe a smug condescending smirk off of a liberal's face. When faced with facts that prove them wrong, liberals just say "whatever" and change the subject, only to be proven wrong again and again.
On another note, shouldn't Rachel be hosting Keith's show and Keith host Rachel's. After all, she is more manly and Keith is more girly.
Facts, smacts!
November 6, 2009 - 11:32 ET by jaywlWhen this person was airing her drivel to the collection of persons in San Francisco facts didn't matter at all. She proves every day she hasn't learned they do. Of course, she is not a journalist, though the last time I caught her she gave the impression she was trying.
Speaking of watching her, I saw a clip of her ilk, Ellen DeGeneres, the other day. Wearing mannish shirt and tie with pants down (there) and a guy haircut on top, I was confused as to who was whom. After I realized there are two of them dressing bullishly alike I thought about my dog, Scamper. He needs to have, well, his balls cut off to calm him down. The Vet asked if I wanted him to have a set of prosthetic balls. I guess it is for identity purposes. I wondered then if it was for him or for our viewing pleasure. In the case of Rachael and Ellen I was thinking maybe they could use a set. I could see her compatriot, Chris Matthews, after she she spouts some wild, crazy idea: "Wow! Rachael, that was some statement! You've got to have a set of balls to say that!"
Oh, for pete's sake.
November 6, 2009 - 11:34 ET by Chris NormanOh, for pete's sake. Everyone - liberal and conservative - misspeak when appearing on television. If that ponderous voiced Maddow wants to play this game, I'm sure we can keep up our end, reporting every liberal's slip of the tongue. How many times do we hear politicans refer to "billion" when the figure meant is "trillion" and so on and so forth.
The "Mainstream" Media: By liberals. For liberals.
Speaking of gaffes--
November 6, 2009 - 14:34 ET by carolina09The absolute cringe-worthy gaffe this week was Obama's shout-out to a "Congressional Medal of Honor" recipient who wasn't even in the military. I think O must have had it mistaken with the frivolous Nobel Prize.
It was also pointed out that
November 6, 2009 - 14:46 ET by kangarooIt was also pointed out that he said 'winner' not recipient, so double gaffe there
Am I the only one that watched Saturday morning cartoons?
November 6, 2009 - 11:38 ET by JWFRemember when there used to be only 3 channels and you had to get up to change the channel? Of course, as close as we sat on saturday mornings, that was not a problem.
We can sing the preamble fer heaven's sake. Schoolhouse Rock.
I am the only person on the planet to watch schoolhouse rock? I am the only person that bought the dvd? 5 10 15 20 stop. Lolly Lolly get your adverbs here.
Also, I am making google very very rich as I am the person that can type "preamble constitution" in the little box and satisfy my thirst for knowledge before making a fool of myself before the 3 fans I have.
And why does that guy sound like a girl sometimes?
Noel sir, please be careful, I have a little bit of dixlesia and I read if she or her crack fat... Now that can't be right. Ah crack fact checking. Whew.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Conjuction juction what's
November 6, 2009 - 12:05 ET by ricklailConjuction juction what's your function. I watched it with my kids.
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
Wish they would rerun those
November 6, 2009 - 12:07 ET by general companyOn prim time TV
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
JWF, LOL-Schoolhouse Rock was where I learned...
November 6, 2009 - 14:30 ET by R D Helm...that if you wanted to erect a stop sign at a railroad crossing, it took an act of congress to get it put up. :-^)
-Dave
Our elected representatives have failed us.
John Boehner
November 6, 2009 - 11:48 ET by SeeksTruthHum.... one has to wonder what Constitution John Boehner pledged to uphold when he was sworn in to office. If he actually read it instead of waving it, he would have known that the message he was looking for in his "speech" was contained in the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence. Shame on him for swearing to uphold a document he hasn't even read.
Shame on him for swearing
November 6, 2009 - 11:55 ET by dmntd1I could say that for nearly every US Elected official currently in office. A few of them have an idea it exists, the rest think it's outdated, and full of thou-shalt-nots for the government (as opposed to telling the government what it SHOULD do for the people....).
WE THE PEOPLE of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare,
uh little buddy?
November 6, 2009 - 12:17 ET by Willis_Leon_JohnsonThe Decalrarion Of Independence does NOT have a "preamble"
Here, for your reading enjoyment and ENLIGHTENMENT is the Declaration in its entirety.
Please READ and COMPREHEND
Declaration of Independence
Here is the complete text of the Declaration of Independence.
The original spelling and capitalization have been retained.
(Adopted by Congress on July 4, 1776)
The Unanimous Declaration
of the Thirteen United States of America
When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. --Such has been the patient sufferance of these colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former systems of government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these states. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his assent to laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his governors to pass laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of representation in the legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved representative houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the legislative powers, incapable of annihilation, have returned to the people at large for their exercise; the state remaining in the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavored to prevent the population of these states; for that purpose obstructing the laws for naturalization of foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither, and raising the conditions of new appropriations of lands.
He has obstructed the administration of justice, by refusing his assent to laws for establishing judiciary powers.
He has made judges dependent on his will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people, and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, standing armies without the consent of our legislature.
He has affected to render the military independent of and superior to civil power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his assent to their acts of pretended legislation:
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by mock trial, from punishment for any murders which they should commit on the inhabitants of these states:
For cutting off our trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing taxes on us without our consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of trial by jury:
For transporting us beyond seas to be tried for pretended offenses:
For abolishing the free system of English laws in a neighboring province, establishing therein an arbitrary government, and enlarging its boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule in these colonies:
For taking away our charters, abolishing our most valuable laws, and altering fundamentally the forms of our governments:
For suspending our own legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated government here, by declaring us out of his protection and waging war against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burned our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to complete the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of cruelty and perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow citizens taken captive on the high seas to bear arms against their country, to become the executioners of their friends and brethren, or to fall themselves by their hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian savages, whose known rule of warfare, is undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these oppressions we have petitioned for redress in the most humble terms: our repeated petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have we been wanting in attention to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, enemies in war, in peace friends.
We, therefore, the representatives of the United States of America, in General Congress, assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the name, and by the authority of the good people of these colonies, solemnly publish and declare, that these united colonies are, and of right ought to be free and independent states; that they are absolved from all allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the state of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as free and independent states, they have full power to levy war, conclude peace, contract alliances, establish commerce, and to do all other acts and things which independent states may of right do. And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.
New Hampshire: Josiah Bartlett, William Whipple, Matthew Thornton
Massachusetts: John Hancock, Samual Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry
Rhode Island: Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery
Connecticut: Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott
New York: William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris
New Jersey: Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark
Pennsylvania: Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross
Delaware: Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean
Maryland: Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton
Virginia: George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton
North Carolina: William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn
South Carolina: Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton
Georgia: Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton
Source: The Pennsylvania Packet, July 8, 1776
http://gjresult.com
Nice try Willis
November 6, 2009 - 12:21 ET by SickofLibsBut that will never hold up in troll court.
/sarc
BAD me.
November 6, 2009 - 12:51 ET by Willis_Leon_JohnsonI used FACTS instead of fax.....
http://gjresult.com
thanks willis
November 6, 2009 - 14:14 ET by cajun2Let the trolls argue over minutiae. Thank for posting the entire thing. It is and always will be, the most beautiful words ever.
Somewhere I have all the Federalist Papers also.
November 6, 2009 - 19:05 ET by Willis_Leon_JohnsonJust more to slap the infidels with...
The ones trying to undermine the nation and its religions would be considered 'infidels' would they not?
http://gjresult.com
Are there troll
November 6, 2009 - 17:04 ET by Quasi-socialistkangaroos?
Maybe he read the one that
November 6, 2009 - 17:27 ET by ckc1227Maybe he read the one that Roland Burris, previous attorney general and now senator says has a health clause in it.
we have to remember
November 6, 2009 - 11:59 ET by larry on LIliberals read from a different U.S. constitution, it's called the living constitution,it is what you want it to be.
She obviously never watched
November 6, 2009 - 12:04 ET by mattmShe obviously never watched Schoolhouse Rock.
She'll Get Hers Down The Road A Bit
November 6, 2009 - 12:22 ET by rammingspeedNothing will wipe the smug, arrogant look off of Maddow's sneery face. When the Dems get their asses kicked as a result of Obama et als excesses, she'll just rationalize it the way all liberal idiots do. But there will be pain for her when that happens, even while she gins up a phony smile. Knowing that will be good enough for me.
Is that what Rachel is
November 6, 2009 - 12:29 ET by goldboughIs that what Rachel is railing against? He read from a different founding document? Not that big a deal in my view. What's more important is that the documents exist and I bet some of her liberal friends would like to have a new constitution anyway.
I predictable a Kerry-esque
November 6, 2009 - 12:32 ET by G. MayI predictable a Kerry-esque type of "I meant to say getting us stuck in Iraq".
Maddow: "I meant to say 'The Constitution doesn't have that in a preamble. Not. Nope. Stop it.'"
...or some variation thereof.
She is a "Lapdog" Obermann
November 6, 2009 - 12:40 ET by John53She is a "Lapdog" Obermann trained bonehead. You can not hang with "Lapdog" Kieth and remain intelligent.
Madcow = Stupid Bitch
November 6, 2009 - 12:44 ET by farstar99Every time she opens her gob, something stupid comes out.
She rivals Ed Schulz in stupidity.
~Welcome to Kos
November 6, 2009 - 12:48 ET by choselife3xIn order to be pro-choice, one must first be born. Ah, the irony.
Apparently it's a
November 6, 2009 - 12:49 ET by Six String SpiffApparently it's a prerequisite to be a completely uneducated buffoon to work for MSNBC..
Good grief. One has to stand in AWE at the colossal gems of ignorance at that station.
Wasn't Boehner technically accurate...?
November 6, 2009 - 12:53 ET by shannon76I'm not a Republican or a Boehner defender, but.....
Wasn't he technically accurate...?
He said... here is my Constitution in my hand...
Now -- in other news -- let me quote from the Preamble (of the Declaration of Independence)..."We the people..."
It's unclear to me to whether he thought the Preamble was in the constitution or he assumed everyone knows that the Preamble is from the DOI (though, it does look bad). In any event...in news that actually does concern me: how are those "Profits to Earnings ratios"...? Those FIFTY-SEVEN states in the U.S.?? The thousands my Pediatric colleagues make when they take out tonsils just to make a profit?? How about the one about the "deficit-neutral" pledge or not taxing anyone making under $250,000?
Wow...
November 6, 2009 - 15:08 ET by ChristianRebelFirst let me say I can't stand Wikipedia (even though my generation is in love with it) if I find something there I try to validate it through another website.
And second, this was the biggest "What in the world?" moment I've had in a while. The sick thing is she just propegated a flat out lie to a few million viewers of her show that are now going to try and spread it to other uneducated people.
This is why I wish they would reform the education system, I could've given a rats tail about the Greeks, the French Revolution, or learning about photosynthisis for the 4th time since middle school. I often lament about how much I missed out on in true education because the school was too busy pushing junk I didn't need to learn on me.
Which is the bigger error.
November 6, 2009 - 13:34 ET by goldbarWhich is the bigger error. Boehner in his frothing self-righteousness, waving his prop copy of the Constitution and then mistakingly quoting from the DOI or Maddow saying the Constitution doesn't have a preamble? Boehner wins in a landslide.
Since you asked....
November 6, 2009 - 17:35 ET by DutchLet's put it in simpler terms for you. Boehner essentially said he dropped his fork, when he meant to say his spoon.... Maddow claimed there's no such thing as forks. So yeah, Maddow's error was MUCH bigger.
Moron.
That oughta wipe the smug, condescending smirk off her face!
November 6, 2009 - 14:01 ET by carolina09Ugh--among the other things she wipes off her face...
So she's a Rhodes Scholar -- big whoop!
November 6, 2009 - 14:17 ET by ProudAmerican58All that means is that her smug shallowness only "sounds" more deep. Regardless, I'm personally bored by all this tit for tat and more interested with the substance of the healthcare issue.
Which leads me to ask if anyone else is famiiliar with the Republican bill she so gleefully proclaimed had been "eviscerated" by the CBO. Anyone?
Contest: What does MSNBC Stand For
November 6, 2009 - 16:03 ET by Dim BulbHere is my entry:
Most
Stupid
News
Babe
Commentator
A few things about the above: 1. "Babe" is a more polite word than the first one I thought of. 2. Replace "Babe" with "Boy" and it still works with Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann. 3. Both Chris and Keith are lilly white, so I can't be called a racist for using "Boy."
MSNBC
November 6, 2009 - 16:07 ET by Free StinkerMost
Supportive
Network of
Barrack's
Communism
خال
We have a winner!
November 6, 2009 - 16:25 ET by SouthJersey1953DING! DING! DING! We have a winner!!!!
You can fix a lot of things, but, you can't fix STUPID! - Joe Murray
you are calling Madcow a babe?
November 6, 2009 - 16:08 ET by spmcintyreI think I just threw up a little in my mouth,
When it comes to government, its not whether the glass is half full or empty, its that the glass is just to big.
Just a misspelling
November 6, 2009 - 19:12 ET by RukusJust a misspelling. Dim prolly meant "biotch", or more likely "butch", not "babe". Forgivable in my book. : )
Gary
POLITICS: poly (many) + ticks (blood sucking parasites)
Maybe he meant "babe"
November 6, 2009 - 19:28 ET by MightyMouthAs in the Paul Bunion Babe? mad COW?
"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"
I thought he was referring to babe
November 6, 2009 - 23:03 ET by Willis_Leon_JohnsonThe sheep herder.....
http://gjresult.com
"Babbling"
November 6, 2009 - 16:48 ET by Quasi-socialistworks for them all.
"2. Replace "Babe" with
November 6, 2009 - 17:20 ET by ckc1227"2. Replace "Babe" with "Boy" and it still works with Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann."
And, ironically, it works for Maddow too.
I really love the
November 6, 2009 - 17:00 ET by Quasi-socialist"bussed-in" protesters. Like only D.C. locals are legit protestors. LOL. Kind of a basic logicistical goof there, Rachel? Not to mention it contains a basic ignorance of the ACORN busses that went out to the private residences of AIG employees, and a basic civic understanding that our federal government is more and more national everyday.
You know, it should really be more like the memorial wall. Come to D.C., see the capital, see the Whitehouse, read the names on the wall, see the Lincoln Memorial, stand out in front of the capital protesting Obamacare for a couple hours,...
You know, just like during the 70s, veteran's--or phony veterans--booked time on their iternery to throw their medals over the Whitehouse fence, just so that they could avoid that whole connotation of "organized" in their protests.
We still believe the
November 6, 2009 - 17:35 ET by RR GOPWe still believe the Constitution really matters enough to argue with Libtards over this?
Hey, they own the Constitution. The High Priest of Libtards hisself supposedly has a degree in constitutional law.
The Constitution is and says whatever they say it is and says.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
Looking At The Preamble In A Different Way
November 7, 2009 - 09:30 ET by Wildcatter1980As originally written:
Now, let's look at it in a different way:
My point here is that progressives have used the General Welfare clause to empower themselves in their efforts to put forth such unconstitutional policies as the health care takeover, er, reform and the cap and tax, er, trade climate protection instead of correctly recognizing the Preamble for what it is, a statement of purpose with regard to the rest of the document.
Ironically, if the ACLU were truly looking out for the individual's civil rights they would have sued the federal government a long time ago for the improper use of the Preamble.
--
We need to stop calling them "Progressives" when in reality they are big government "Socialists" who no longer value the individual's rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
In Addition to Reporting Opinion as Fact
November 11, 2009 - 12:48 ET by tarunkjuyalThis msnbc show must not pay very much. That poor misguided girl on every show appears to be wearing the same hand-me-down coat over something made out of old curtains.
Constitution
November 13, 2009 - 14:30 ET by David GiganI had never watched R. Maddow. The night I chose to "check it out" she preached: "the constitution doesn't have a preamble."
I had some fun with it (I hope you enjoy).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff1GAwYnjlk