Recently fired liberal Fox News contributor Marc Lamont Hill claimed Tuesday the White House attacks on his former employer reek of propaganda.Speaking with WOR radio's Steve Malzberg, Hill also agreed that the two other cable news networks he used to contribute to, CNN and MSNBC, are far more to the left than Fox News is to the right.
These were fascinating comments from someone that was considered one of Fox's most liberal contributors prior to his recent termination from the network (14-minute audio available here, relevant section at 4:20):
STEVE MALZBERG, WOR RADIO: Do you think that the criticism that the White House has leveled at Fox over the past two weekends -- sending out Axelrod, Emanuel, and, and Anita Dunn - do you believe that that's fair criticism?
MARC LAMONT HILL: This is probably the wrong day to ask me that. What do I think? I think that, oh there's two issues here. One is the strategic issue, and one is a, is a, is a sort of a facticity issue. Strategically, I don't think it's wise for the Obama administration to continue to complain about Fox. I don't think that makes good sense to do that. I think it makes them look like, like they're whining. I think it makes them look like they don't play well from behind. It makes them look like they can't take criticism. I think that whenever you have a and, and, a presidential administration devoting that much energy to a media outlet and shutting down a media outlet or trying to silence a media outlet I think it, it reeks of everything from propaganda to just mismanagement and immaturity. Are there legitimate critiques of Fox? Of course there are. Is Fox News a right-leaning organization? No doubt about it. Even the people on Fox who are, who are on the left other than myself tended to be far more moderate than I was. Alan Colmes, Kirsten Powers, Juan Williams, Bob Beckel has certainly moved towards the center. And that's not a critique of them. I mean, again, Geraldo's a Republican.
MALZBERG: Geraldo's a Republican? I don't think so. He hung up on me not too long ago because I dared criticize Sonia Sotomayor. I doubt that he's a Republican, but go ahead.
HILL: Well, he's registered as a Republican.
MALZBERG: Well, that doesn't mean anything. Anyway, go ahead.
HILL: Well, you know, I think fiscally, I think you guys may disagree on social issues, but fiscally I think you guys are on the same page.
MALZBERG: Alright, but, but, but, but, but, so but this criticism, yeah go ahead.
HILL: No, but the point, the deeper point here is Fox does have a, it does engage in battle and debate on both sides of the aisle far more often than some of the other networks. I would just as easily say that MSNBC is a left-leaning network as I would say Fox is a right-leaning one. And that's not necessarily a critique, it's just sort of the way it is.
MALZBERG: So don't you believe that the White House looks, I mean, well they're not doing that, they, they, to you and me, they look foolish, but to the average American, they're trying to put one over to pretend that MSNBC or to pretend that Fox exists in a vacuum. Even if you believe they're biased to the right, MSNBC is much more biased to the left.
HILL: I would agree.
MALZBERG: And, and CNN is also. You would agree you said, right?
HILL: Of course I would agree.
This from a liberal who used to contribute to CNN and MSNBC and was recently fired by Fox.
With this in mind, maybe the White House should reconsider what its definition of a news organization is.
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.
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Even a stopped watch...
October 21, 2009 - 09:30 ET by Blonde...is right twice a day. So he got bits of it right. For once.
I must say, it is much more pleasant reading this person than hearing him. I am happy Fox canned him.
Bob Beckel centrist? Ha ha ha ha ha.
I hope he fails, too.
Beckel--left left left
October 21, 2009 - 10:12 ET by StarAZBeckel is just a house liberal. Predictable. I didn't know Hill was fired--I didn't mind him in those debates with Bill O'Reilly--he had a point a view and stated it...whatever...he was well spoken an feisty...Isn't Fox saying they present all viewpts?
House liberal
October 21, 2009 - 10:19 ET by BlondeI think the problem with Hill is that they drug him out for his liberal viewpoint on any old thing, related to his "field" or not. I'd rather listen to Susan Estrich, at least she has some real life experience (and what's up with her....major face work, she is looking not too bad at all).
And I have to laugh at him, too. I find anyone who is not actually on a college campus with a PhD wanting to be called "doctor". It is sooooo presumptuous. Paging Dr. Hip Hop.
I hope he fails, too.
Blonde..."Dr. Hip Hop"...I love that...
October 21, 2009 - 10:22 ET by PrairieSkyThat's priceless. I always wondered about that too...He was billed as a PhD and professor...Of what? Why did he never seem to be in the classroom?
Good riddance.
"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan
If I were a plantation liberal, I'd say:
October 21, 2009 - 09:30 ET by mattm"Hey Marc - go back to the porch....."*
*That means "Uncle Tom" in case you didn't know. You see, if you're black, and you don't fall down and worship at the feet of Obumba, you're an UT, if you're white - you're a racist - any other race, you're also a racist, but not to the same degree as whitey.
Obumba?
October 21, 2009 - 14:37 ET by TrickletownIs that a funny African-like spin on his name? Just wondering.
welcome to my world matt and
October 21, 2009 - 20:17 ET by gmaniac1welcome to my world matt and it's worse than being a racist whitey, trust me... conservative blacks think liberal whites are the most racist people by far because they play on race as a reason to get our votes and then throw us away after the elections... no shame in their game and idiot black liberals are more of house negros than conservatives quite frankly
Terminated?
October 21, 2009 - 09:31 ET by allanfDoes anyone know why Dr. Hill was terminated by Fox?
Here you go, allan
October 21, 2009 - 09:42 ET by BlondeSeems the Fox shareholders questioned why he was hired in the first place. Link.
I hope he fails, too.
What exactly does he....
October 21, 2009 - 09:45 ET by stage9have a PhD in??
"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will
be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for
pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner."
— Malcolm Muggeridge
Not sure
October 21, 2009 - 09:49 ET by BlondeHip Hop Culture? From Wiki:
Trained as an anthropologist of education, Hill's academic work focuses on the intersections between youth culture, identity, and educational processes. He is the author of Beats, Rhymes, and Classroom Life: Hip-Hop Pedagogy and the Politics of Identity. He holds a Ph.D. with distinction from the University of Pennsylvania. From 2005-2009, he was Assistant Professor of Urban Education and American Studies at Temple University.
I hope he fails, too.
LOL! man...
October 21, 2009 - 12:19 ET by stage9PhD's are like Nobel Peace Prizes these days, they'll give one to just about anyone.
"If God is dead, somebody is going to have to take his place. It will
be megalomania or erotomania, the drive for power or the drive for
pleasure, the clenched fist or the phallus, Hitler or Hugh Hefner."
— Malcolm Muggeridge
My guess would be that he
October 21, 2009 - 19:30 ET by BDMy guess would be that he suffered from the fact TV's were turned off or channels were changed to the food channel when he appeared.
Terminated
October 21, 2009 - 10:08 ET by slickwillie2001He was terminated because 'some stockholders' questioned his employment by Fox News when he has held some extremely radical positions in the past, such as supporting cop-killers Assata Shakur and Mumia Abu-Jamal. After criticizing positions held by many of the Bamster's czars, it looked too hypocritical for Fox News to employ someone even more extreme far-left.
I believe his degree is in Anthropology, but his area of specialization is hip-hop culture. Interesting intersection.
Marc Lamont Hill Out at Fox: http://www.riehlworldview.com
PS: If we fired every black liberal that supports Mumia, there would be no black liberals in the media.
Terminated?
October 21, 2009 - 10:13 ET by Paul GI handn't heard that. He was WAY to the left, but he reminded me of Juan Williams. He at least conceded when he was wrong.
Why did he get fired? I don't believe it was the shareholders because the NYT NBC etc etc...would be gone by now.
Not sorry to see him go...
October 21, 2009 - 10:07 ET by PrairieSkyI'm glad that Fox finally fired Hill...He's an apologist for the worst of the Left and their BS, and I'm surprised that Fox hired him in the first place, with his background. I'm glad he's gone.
"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan
Couldn't stand him
October 21, 2009 - 11:16 ET by jon_torlinI did not like this guy one bit. From the moment he starts talking, you can see he was talking out of his butt, it was something in his eyes that screamed "lying liberal" and just made me change the channel almost instantly. It got to the point that as soon as I got a glimpse of him at work on our TVs, I'd flip it over to the SyFy channel instead.
I considered him conniving and insincere. Harsh? Maybe. Does that make me racist? Couldn't care less anymore about that term.
He will be missed....Just kidding, he won't be missed at all.
-Jon
jon...Same here...
October 21, 2009 - 11:19 ET by PrairieSkyI couldn't stomach him either, and he definitely won't be missed.
"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan
Ditto!!
October 21, 2009 - 12:40 ET by ProudAmerican58Ditto!!
Kinda good reason to fire him
October 21, 2009 - 10:14 ET by ThoreauApparently he was fired by Murdoch because a "shareholder had raised the question of how Hill was hired, citing his "reputation of defending cop killers and racists."
Which would technically make him a bit out of step with even the democrats.. maybe... for now.
Fair is fair
October 21, 2009 - 10:34 ET by cajun2Dr. Hill was fired from Fox for a simple reason. He may not have said he supported cop killers, but because of his far left leanings and other comments he has made, we know this is what he meant. This kind of "controversy" and "devisiveness" is not welcome at the NFL, oops, I meant at FOX.
Cajun2, if that were the
October 21, 2009 - 11:58 ET by TomoramaCajun2, if that were the case, why are Beckel, Estrich, Sharpton and the other group of about 30 or so LIBERALS that are on their "talk show panels" on a regular basis STILL THERE?
I agree with Hill every once in a while and he is totally right here about the other networks and that has been my main beef for years and I have been challenging ANY liberal to dispute the following:
Fox has more liberals on their network than any of the others have conservatives on and it ISN'T EVEN CLOSE.
Last night Hannity had two on his panel show where DISCUSSION of differing views happened and on last nights Olbermann show there were how many conservatives on???
What is that number againm oh ya, ZERO.
Study after study has shown this as well.
A great man once said, YOU only get out of life what YOU put into it, he obviously wasn't a liberal.
Fox viewers have nothing to fear from liberals on the air
October 21, 2009 - 12:13 ET by StarAZFox viewers can stand it--we decide, remember. Are you guys really saying all the liberals should be thrown off and the station be what the admin is saying...? No way! I like Fox because it's INTERESTING. Sometimes I catch someone in a misstatement or whatever....that I know absolutely is wrong...but often this is taken back, too...if you watch more than one day. That would be the "fair" part. Now you want to take away the "balanced" part?
It was sarcasm?
October 21, 2009 - 12:24 ET by cajun2Maybe not my best. Dr. Hill's release from Fox just sounded so much like Rush debacle. He was being singled out for his far left racist rants though he is usually very polite doing it. I had no problem with him either, he was a little annoying at times. My post just was to point out that there seems to be an effort to rope in far right and left pundits. That I have a problem with. Let them find a venue like Rush and Beck. I was only wondering if Fox was doing a "payback" for the left and the WH hammering Rush and Fox News. I was not taking sides. I was trying to figure out what the hell is going on with the Media these days. Its getting scary. I would hate to see Fox follow the path of leftest who are into gag orders. There maybe something here about DrHill not yet public. He certainly did not sound like "sour grapes" on his last appearance.
Hill
October 21, 2009 - 11:52 ET by GothampcI'm glad he's no longer with Fox. I had to mute the tv when he came on. He talks so fast and it was like he was just spraying junk all over the place.
He's now a professor at Columbia University so that tells you the level of CU faculty.
Lamont Hill on Mumia
October 21, 2009 - 11:53 ET by slickwillie2001Marc Lamont Hill: "Mumia Abu-Jamal is one of the world’s most celebrated journalists,
freedom fighters, and political prisoners. Since his early days in Philadelphia, Mumia was an active member of the Black freedom struggle. From his award-winning journalism to his involvement with the Black Panther Party, Mumia has devoted his life to Black liberation. Wrongfully incarcerated since 1981 for the murder of Officer Daniel Faulkner, Mumia has continued to place a spotlight on various forms of injustice around the globe through his numerous columns, commentaries, and books. Mumia has generated international support for his own case, which has been one of the most glaring and repugnant reflections of the criminal (in)justice system."
That sounds pretty supportive.
An aside, but....
October 21, 2009 - 12:41 ET by lotrWhy was he fired?
Never mind -- I see this was already asked above....
"Steady." -- Keith Olbermann to Chris Matthews
oh I dunno...
October 21, 2009 - 12:44 ET by katainkentI suppose this might have something to do with it... or this..
(ehehe your edit beat my post ;))
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The Emperor, he has no clothes
I couldn't even tell if Marc
October 21, 2009 - 13:41 ET by ApacheI couldn't even tell if Marc Lamont Hill was serious or not when he was trying to make an argument. It was just so far out of left field. He talked like a caricature of a liberal. But he did seem to get smarter as time went on. I think he is one of those libs who had just never even heard the or considered the other side's arguments. There were a few times when someone would shoot back an answer at him and he would just seemed stunned as if he never considered it before. Give him a few years and see if he's not leading a tea party protest. <g>
Hill
October 21, 2009 - 14:40 ET by StillStacyAlthough Dr. Hill often left me with a nauseous feeling in my gut, I appreciated his insight and opinion. I am not happy he's gone. If Fox wants to continue on with their Fair & Balanced slogan, they should have kept him. It is beneficial for conservatives to know exactly what the extreme left is thinking, and Hill communicated that very well.
Too bad, a little diversity at Fox is a good thing...
October 21, 2009 - 15:00 ET by TrickletownHill still has good things to say about Fox, despite being fired. Having listened to the audio clip available above, it's obvious that his feelings have been hurt. I can't blame him, it would be a cool thing to work at FNC. He says he doesn't support cop killers. I guess his history shows he is sympathetic to Mumia. That's one I'll never understand. An intelligent person believing Mumia is not guilty, despite being convicted by plenty of evidence.
I admire the fact that Hill wastes no time taking shots at MSNBC and CNN. I don't think we'll be seeing him hired by either, anytime soon. Unlike ex-Fox employee David Shuster. Now that is one creepy left wing douche-bag.
Fired?
October 21, 2009 - 15:11 ET by SupermanMarc Lamont Hill was fired? Are you sure you guys aren't confusing him with Warren Ballantine?
Mr Hill
October 21, 2009 - 16:45 ET by TomoramaThat Ballantine line was pure gold Jerry.................
The other networks STILL don't get it, the success of Fox is DUE to them having ALL voices on their panel segments, that is the old crossfire method that they perfected.
But yet they get the "one trick pony" bullshit all the time and it is uh, uh, uh, uh, a freakin' myth.
I would be bored stiff watching the same people over and over agreeing with the host, you LEARN NOTHING from that and YOU get old with it real quick (see Bathtub boy and his "your the greatest Keith" group of minions on a nightly basis.) .
I was no fan of Mr Hill, but I found it entertaining him jousting with Bill and he will be missed. But now knowing he sided with cop killers............................
A great man once said, YOU only get out of life what YOU put into it, he obviously wasn't a liberal.
Well...
October 21, 2009 - 18:01 ET by Blix AmericaI didn't even know Hill had been fired. I actually liked watching him debate the issues with the Fox team. He was always able to give the point of view from the left in an intelligent manner without resorting to surly, sarcastic, and snide remarks. Hopefully they will find a good replacement.
http://blixamerica.b...
I didn't mind having MLH on Fox because I DVR...
October 21, 2009 - 18:10 ET by jawebster1Beck, O'Reilly and Hannity. Whenever I see him on Bill's show, I fast forward his part of the show. I was wondering why I haven't seen him recently. At least he gave no parting shot to Fox...yet, anyway. Jim Webster