Leave it to George Will to perfectly explain in just two words all the recent accusations by Democrats and their media minions that anti-government sentiment sweeping the nation is caused by racism.
Liberal McCarthyism.
Delicious.
Fortunately for those not understanding the reference, Will explained further when the Roundtable discussion on Sunday's "This Week" turned to all the recent pronouncements of racism directed at anyone having the nerve to challenge President Obama's agenda (video embedded below the fold with partial transcript):
What we’re hearing is the liberals’ McCarthyism, which is, when in doubt, blame people for racism. Litigators have an old argument: When the law’s on your side, argue the law. When the facts are on your side, argue the facts. When neither’s on your side, pound the table. This amounts to pounding the table.
I have yet to see evidence, is there -- does evidence even intrude in this conversation? Is there any evidence that these people are racists? I think not.
Unfortunately, those pounding the table include so-called journalists who should be exposing the lack of evidence rather than participating in the charade.
Such happened moments after Will made this statement when guests Donna Brazile and Robert Reich predictably disagreed with him:
BRAZILE: Well, George, there’s some evidence that -- not an overwhelming amount of evidence -- that some of -- a small fringe of this movement, clearly there’s some racism. And you don’t have to know the motives of someone’s heart to understand when you see signs, incendiary signs that basically compares him to a witch doctor, an African heathen. We know racism; we don’t have to be told or taught that. That -- that much we do know. [...]REICH: Yes. The difference, though, I think -- and, by the way, I think Donna is absolutely right. There is some element of racism here. You can’t avoid it. The question is whether it’s the dominant element. I don’t think it is the dominant element. I think Peggy [Noonan] put her finger on it just now, and that is, when 1 out of 6 Americans is underemployed -- either unemployed or underemployed -- and when you have about 1 out of 3 Americans worried that they could be, there is an element of anxiety and fear in the population right now that demagogues either on the right or left will almost inevitably use to position themselves. The politics of resentment is something we’ve seen before in this country. Right now, you have right-wing talk radio people who are whipping it up, not just against the president, but against foreigners, against immigrants, against blacks, against elites. This is what happens in this country when people are scared.
Now, a real journalist, after what Will postulated, would have asked Brazile and Reich to offer evidence to support their positions. Host George Stephanopoulos didn't and instead changed the subject:
But -- that’s true, and it’s -- but it’s right and left. You know, Ed, I was struck this week -- I spent an evening flipping between Fox News and MSNBC. And it’s like you were living in parallel universes. They are basically taking completely different takes on a similar issue to just attack each other and not -- and not really look at -- look at the problem.
Given what Will stated at the beginning of this segment, why didn't Stephanopoulos ask Brazile and Reich to offer evidence that any of the current anti-government sentiment in the country is caused by racism?
Or would that be too much like journalism for ABC News's chief Washington correspondent?
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Brazille and Riech
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 12:50 ET by ricklailJust 2 more peanuts in the turd.
Semper suprene nitens
OBAMACARE: If it ain't good enough for my Congressman then it ain't good enough for me.
What's up rick ?
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 14:05 ET by jdlybrandThat's gettin' to be one nutty turd! ;-)
"What a revoltin' development this is!"
Chester Riley
Maybe they'll mistake it for a
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 14:57 ET by AmmoManPayday bar...
Thanks AmmoMan
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 16:30 ET by GecksThat's a visual I do not need!! Now I won't be able to eat another pay day bar!
Gecks
"Your right to Life, Liberty, and the Persuit of Happiness ends at my front door, and my wallet!"-Me!
I think I can easily spin that comment into a
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 14:37 ET by WhoIsJohnGaltracist statement.
Simple...it was a negative comment about a black in media/government. The fact that you added the skat reference made it a slam dunk.
I was thinking the same thing
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 18:26 ET by mbuelBut that's just indicative that they've overplayed the race card.
I'm reminded of the fable "The little boy who cried wolf". These idiots are crying racism so often, that when REAL racism happens no one will believe them.
As for Will's statement, he is right and wrong. McCarthy was right. We should've done a better job of uncovering the enemy within our own system. After McCarthy they hid in the media and the Department of Education.
The "Reds" have come home to roost.
http://clearthehaze.blogspot.com
The problem with this
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 13:04 ET by BKeyserThe problem with this comparison is that ultimately, McCarthy proved to be correct, at least in most instances- according to my understanding of the facts actually brought by McCarthy. Certainly, "McCarthyism" has taken on a connotation of unfounded persecution by the extreme right-wing, but that's largely due to historical rewriting by the left. Of course, maybe that's what Will is suggesting...
McCarthyism
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 17:15 ET by KC MulvilleI also dispute the McCarthy analogy. The biggest rhetorical problem here is that in any large group of people who espouse a point of view, there are some whackos.
When McCarthy made his charges, he was correct. There were some Communists. The larger issue, however, was whether that percentage invalidated the establishment. At the time of McCarthy, the establishment responded by denying McCarthy's charges - and then by destroying McCarthy himself (with McCarthy's own help). In this case, the liberals are trying it again, only with a twist. This time, instead of denying any bad guys, they're trying to say that the opposition is ALL bad guys - i.e., they're all racists.
One side note: the great educational innovation that came from John Dewey, and was "implemented" after the 1960s, was to abandon traditional educational techniques ... and instead teach "critical thinking." I submit that's proven to be a failure. The education establishment (i.e., liberal teachers) misunderstood what critical thinking is ... instead of a healthy self-criticism, they've taught it as criticizing traditional values.
Re posters
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 17:35 ET by slickwillie2001In any case, I believe that most of the racist posters on display at TEA protests were from Lyndon LaRouche supporters, and they are a nutball far-left party. The democratics own LaRouche.
Conservative demonstrations do not have a thug-enforcement division like SSEIU or ACORN to weed out those that infiltrate.
Right slick
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 19:04 ET by Free StinkerThe one (count 'em one) Obama-with-a-Hitler-mustache poster that I saw was - you guessed right - from Larouche supporters?
How do I know? They had the LaRouche's web page at the bottem.
"President Obama is learning on the job and it shows." --Boris Epshteyn
McCarthy wasn't entirely
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 17:37 ET by JerMcCarthy wasn't entirely wrong--but McCarthyism was [and is]. Members of the Republican establishment were willing to tolerate--even encourage--McCarthy as long as his obsessive, but effective, Red pursuit inured to their benefit. When he turned against the Army--and, to some extent, the Eisenhower administration itself, Tailgunner Joe wasn't quite so appealing. His booze-fueled recklessness and the erosion of his political base ultimately destroyed him.
Jer
I got it, Jer
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 17:45 ET by candanceMcCarthy himself wasn't wrong, but his policies, agendas, and methods were. And darn those evil Republicans scoring political points by ousting Soviet spies. They should have kept their mouths shut and waited for a bipartisan crusade, cause you know, any day now the Democrats would have started policing their own.
Amazing how that happens, Jer. No matter what the topic here, it always somehow ends with Republicans being in the wrong. ALWAYS.
No, you haven't "got it"--at least not all of it, candance...
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 18:51 ET by JerMcCarthy himself wasn't wrong, but his policies, agendas, and methods were
You got it.
And darn those evil Republicans scoring political points by ousting Soviet spies.
No, not evil. Like most politicians of both major parties, they quite predictably were not averse to seizing a goldern political opportunity. The FBI, Justice Department investigators and federal prosecutors were doing an excellent job of uncovering and ousting Soviet spies.
They should have kept their mouths shut and waited for a bipartisan crusade, cause you know, any day now the Democrats would have started policing their own.
The Democrats, and the Truman administration, did so. Vigorously. Granted, there were a few notable failures.
Amazing how that happens, Jer. No matter what the topic here, it always somehow ends with Republicans being in the wrong. ALWAYS.
That's plain, hyperbolic nonsense, candance. I've defended Republicans and criticized Democrats on numerous occasions. In recent weeks, for example, I've reiterated my support--unpoplar among libs--for the Bush/Cheney anti-terror/enhanced interrogation policies. Give me just one instance where NBers have supported Obama [the man or his policies]--or liberal Democrats--against the Republican right.
Jer
a reply for Jer
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 21:30 ET by candanceThere's no point in saying McCarthy wasn't wrong if everything he did was wrong. That's like me saying Obama is a good president except for everything he does.
If the FBI and DoJ were doing such a good job then nothing should have come from McCarthy's hearings. Kinda how there are no hearings on ACORN because the feds are doing such a bang-up job there now.
Granted, there were a few notable failures.
That is the whole crux of the issue, isn't it? McCarthy's theory was that wealthy politicians in high places knowingly allowed those "notable failures" to happen and would continue do to so without hitting them with sunlight.
I'm not trying to pick a fight here, but most of your defenses of Republicans usually involve "yeah that liberal is a jerk and should be shunned, but there are crazy people on the right just as well." Your support for interrogation aside (I will give you points for that) it's uncommon for you to respond to something by saying "this Democrat is absolutely wrong and I will not make any excuses or play moral equivalence."
You are right that most NBers are highly partisan. I complain about that here all the time. I took heat last summer for saying Sarah Palin made a mistake not calling abortion bombers terrorists. I defended Don Henley in a lawsuit here about six months ago and got drug into an argument. Just yesterday, I criticized those conservies who heckled an MSNBC reporter on air. And in each of those instances, I never tried to soften the blow by reminding people that lefties are obnoxious.
Thanks for your comment, candance.
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 21:43 ET by JerThanks for your comment, candance. I'll post a reply later.
Jer
candance
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 21:53 ET by MrShyFirst off, hi. Shoot went great yesterday with Nat, btw.
...it's uncommon for you to respond to something by saying "this Democrat is absolutely wrong and I will not make any excuses or play moral equivalence."
Thank you. That's precisely what gets under my skin a lot of times with Jer, with shawn (to a lesser extent :p), with Jason (to a whopping extent, of course), etc..
I, btw, am probably one of the more partisan NB'ers. You see, people? Not a dishonest bone in my body. :)
EDIT: I typed Jer twice earlier, sorry...
you are that for sure, my dear Shy
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 22:22 ET by candanceBiased in favor of Bush, you are.
Watched your latest video. It's coming together really well. Meant to email you with a longer reply but then got lazy and forgot. Loved the hearts!! Can't wait to see Nat's part incorporated in.
Desperately seeking Shy's approval....
Wed, 09/23/2009 - 16:22 ET by JerAre there any libs at NB who don't get 'under your skin'? Please advise, so that I may try to be more like him, her, or them. This is very important to me for I desperately yearn for your approval. ;-)
Jer
Are there any libs at NB
Wed, 09/23/2009 - 17:50 ET by MrShyAre there any libs at NB who don't get 'under your skin'?
These days, not really. All libs infuriate me to some degree. I can't stand my own brother.
This is very important to me for I desperately yearn for your approval. ;-)
Tell me something I don't already know.
Maybe it's because I'm the only rock-star NB'er*. (Great, so THAT'S why you want so much for me to like you... :( )
(* in his own mind)
candance...McCarthyism and other matters
Wed, 09/23/2009 - 17:25 ET by Jer"There's no point in saying McCarthy wasn't wrong if everything he did was wrong."
You would be right...if that were what I had said. But it wasn't. [His academic diligence wasn't wrong. His military service wasn't wrong. His personal, friendly bon homie wasn't wrong. Even his observation that there were communists in the government wasn't wrong. His opportunism, demagoguery, and political recklessness, however, were dangerously and spectacularly wrong
.
"If the FBI and DoJ were doing such a good job then nothing should have come from McCarthy's hearings."
Not much did, other than giving the Constituition a good thumping.
"That is the whole crux of the issue, isn't it? McCarthy's theory was that wealthy politicians in high places knowingly allowed those "notable failures" to happen and would continue do to so without hitting them with sunlight."
Regarding whom? Hiss? Dexter White? Names, candance, give me the NAMES! ;-)
"I'm not trying to pick a fight here, but most of your defenses of Republicans usually involve "yeah that liberal is a jerk and should be shunned, but there are crazy people on the right just as well." Your support for interrogation aside (I will give you points for that) it's uncommon for you to respond to something by saying "this Democrat is absolutely wrong and I will not make any excuses or play moral equivalence."
You're right, it is not uncommon for me to do that, but neither is it without exception [I'll have to hunt for some examples]. Btw, I do regret having done so in the post where I blasted Mike Malloy and called for his firing, but then tossed in a closing "but conserservative talkers have said [such and such], too." But in my defense, I at least will call the libs out for their asininity and outrageous behavior and remarks. There is precious little criticism of conservative "over the top" commentary here. I mean is there any line that Limbaugh or Coulter or Beck et al could conceivably cross that would trigger significant disapproval by NBers?
"I never tried to soften the blow by reminding people that lefties are obnoxious."
Thanks for the reminder. :-)
Jer
Jer
Wed, 09/23/2009 - 17:50 ET by MrShy"...but neither is it without exception [I'll have to hunt for some examples]."
Ha. That'll be some hunt, Jer.
If you had a reality TV show, "Jer's Hunt for Absolute, No Frills Finger Pointing Towards Liberals", I think I'd have to just Tivo it. I'll be on my butt forever.
Shy...
Wed, 09/23/2009 - 17:58 ET by JerI'm predicting about a twenty-minute safari, Shy.
Jer
What more can we expect
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 21:10 ET by Dan The Man 2What more can we expect Candace. We are wrong.
What more can we expect?
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 21:42 ET by JerWhat more can we expect? That you would spell candance's name correctly, for starters.
Jer
okay this made me laugh
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 21:51 ET by candance:-D
Democrat Jer, Strength of an argument based on spelling issues.
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 23:46 ET by upcountrywaterLIER Jer never responds!! (scroll up and down, on that thread).
Li´er (lī´ẽr)
n.
1.
One who lies down; one who rests or remains, as in concealment.
There were liers in a ambush against him.
Once again KKK, Poll taxes ,Jim Crow and Democrat Jer, pulls his verbose obnoxious belligerence.
All be it , just in one sentence..Cute by one half of Nothing.
Whatever..... it's dig at... Dan teh Man 2 ...Whatever THE; teh
Go whack him again Jer ....America cheers the under dog.
Jer reminds me of some contestant on the TV show Surviver...
Check out the alinsky rules for liberals,
NO, no no THE 16 RULES Jer functions by
Works GREAT on the gals here... SAD SQUARED
Good Job Jer! Looks like you are winning, To bad there is no Million bucks at the end of the season.
State controlled health care is Tort Reform.
ucw...
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:26 ET by JerTake off the blinders, son....
Dan has chased me from thread to thread for months taking unprovoked trollish potshots at me. I'm not hung up over anyone's spelling--and certainly not typos which was most likely what occurred in this case--but I make no apologies for the modest dig at Dan. It is a drop in the ocean compared to his conduct directed at me.
Jer
Jer , just a touch of deflection : What a sad little story.
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 02:53 ET by upcountrywaterTo bad you have NEVER replied to my last Waco issue, all linked there in that linked N' linked ,, post you have failed to give a reply to..
No worries dude , so much to read so little time.
One day you will sit down at your lovely internet connection and find a BLACK screen. You will stumble into your bathroom , and Shove your hand the crome flush lever.
Woah crome lever does not deliver... Flush FAIL.
Jobs Man!! Shovel ready...digging a hole in your backyard for your morning loaf.
Man oh man does that cut into the morning communte.
Josh Jer , I have infrastructure issues. Here one day! gone forever the next.
No worries , just ah yappin here in internet land.
Could last 30 years...
Brunette, Is on a 30 day count down.
Come on!
60 HZ AC delivered, 24/7 ...LOL how long is that going to last! Question ?
What do you have, A 200 AMP service? algore has 800 AMP service, that would be 4- 200AMP panels..spread about 16,000 square foot home, not that's there anything wrong with that.
Data has moved into, Hollywood, Any massive project can be completed within 90 minutes..... But wait theres more ....Yea we can build a 50GW power planet in 30 days..
Kill this carbon almost free power unit, Kuz we can, Tortless forever baby!
No we are not ever going to land on the moon, again.
State controlled health care is Tort Reform.
McCarthy
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 18:34 ET by mbuelI agree with you. There were more than SOME Communists within our country and at high levels within our Government.
It's recently been revealed that Cuba and the Soviet Union (and probably other countries) had enemies within our own administrations intelligence agencies.
And of course the Democrats were in denial, many of the Democrats even then were communist sympathizers. IMO, McCarthy should've pushed harder but EXPLAINED why Communist ideals were Anti-American. He should've brought evidence of how they were acting treasonously and selling (or in some cases just giving) secrets to our enemies around the world.
Kerry and Fonda were some of the direct results of McCarthy not working hard enough. Both of them (along with MANY others) helped lose the Vietnam war by working DIRECTLY with Ho Chi Minh.
As for the "innovations" proclaimed by John Dewey, he himself was a promoter of the Red agenda. He was one of the crucial drivers to indoctrinate our children with anti-capitalist and anti-american ideals. THAT was the "critical thinking" he was talking about.
http://clearthehaze.blogspot.com
let it be right vs left
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 13:11 ET by RayRayup until recent times, it's always been the biased leftist media pretending to be neutral. Most people had believed that, too.
We still hear about how politically-correct bigot Walter Cronkite was some great journalist.
Racist
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 13:12 ET by Jerry MackAnyone with any brain power knows that when they play the race that they are losing big time. I hope that they keep doing it. It only makes the public more aware of what is being opposed.
Polls indicate that 52% of us are opposed to the Obama care. According to the Brazilles and Reichs that makes 52% of us RACIST!
"when they play the race that they are losing big time"
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 15:36 ET by RayRaythe fact is that for decades when they played it, they *always* won big time - including the 2008 election.
hopefully the tide is turning, and we might even get to the stage of pointing out that the reverse racists from Carter to Brian Williams to Obama are the *real* racists these days
Obama Was The "Perfect" Candidate...
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 15:55 ET by Wildcatter1980...because he unlike anyone else running came with the "perfect" shield; his race.
As we now see, any criticism no matter how accurate or dead-on it may be is met with instant knee-jerk cries of racism. The no-longer mainstream media continues to shirk it's Constitutionally-protected role and responsibility of watchdog of government with it's complete refusal to call out the sycophants on the left for attempting to stifle the criticism with their baseless charges of racism.
We are left with the brave few here on Newsbusters.org, Fox News, and the other web sites and journalists who put their ethics ahead of advancing personal agendas to keep us informed of the facts instead of rhetoric.
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We need to stop calling them "Progressives" when in reality they are big government "Socialists" who no longer value the individual's rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
Great way to ...
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 13:13 ET by Apodictic...push over the socialist outhouse - with them still squatting in it!
Her Speakerness is right to worry!
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 13:17 ET by motherbeltThe "climate of violence" exists!
Here's the proof
Touche'
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 16:03 ET by Wildcatter1980I could add the after event pics comparing how Washington, D.C. looked 21-Jan-09 vs. 13-Sep-09. There was virtually no litter or trash left behind after the 12-Sep gatherings compared to possibly tons of waste covering the ground after 20-Jan.
But, we DARE not criticize lest we be shouted down with screams of racism!
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We need to stop calling them "Progressives" when in reality they are big government "Socialists" who no longer value the individual's rights to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.
Can someone point out that
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 13:18 ET by nicksmith112Can someone point out that most of the Obama Hitler/Obama joker posters are being held by Lyndon LaRouche supporters.
A couple of weeks ago at my local post office LaRouche supporters were set up at the curb with their literature and signs. One of the two LaRouche supporters was an African American woman.
I'm located in Western Suffolk,NY....that's Long Island for those that don't know.
I'm a refugee from the Democratic Party.
You mean "LongGisland"
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 14:41 ET by WhoIsJohnGaltLived in East Moriches until I was forty. Now when I go back for Thanksgiving every year, I can't take more than three days...it's an absolute madhouse on the east end now. Too bad, it was a nice place to grow up forty years ago.
Sorry, but Will is
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 13:23 ET by TESorry, but Will is wrong.
"McCarthyism" was true (i.e., the identification of fellow travelers in the U.S. government.)
"Liberal McCarthyism", however, is false (i.e., the bogus allegation that opposition to an America hating, militant leftist like Obama is based on his race.)
Brazile & Reich
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 13:39 ET by rockyracoonIn advertenly prove what Will said is correct. How many time will we hear "elements of racism?" Liberals are so smart that they keep stepping into their own trap, and just can't help themselves.
Of course the "dominate element" following Katrina..
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 13:50 ET by Gary HallOf course the "dominate element" following Katrina..
.. was that "Bush hated Blacks."
And the "evidence" of that, was that the national media couldn't get enough of Spike Lee and Kayne West.
All of this - 90% is fueled by the want of the MSM.
(;~/ gary
"And if all others accepted
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 14:12 ET by River Dog"And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed—if all records told the same tale—then the lie passed into history and became truth. " ~1984
I wish I could mod up
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 14:04 ET by ThoreauI wish I could vote for some of the these comments, because they make very accurate points. Even a right wing extremist like me is impressed.
look...
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 14:14 ET by michiganruthif the American people truly were "overwhelmingly" racist, as Carter said the other day, then Obama would never have been elected, indeed COULD never have been elected.
clearly, some people who supported Obama then do not support him now. how can that POSSIBLY be because of the color of his skin? it didn't change.
logic might tell us that there must be some other reason for Obama's waning support. but logic has never stopped liberals from believing their own craziness.
I think an overwhelming
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 22:59 ET by Barry BondsI think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he's African-American.
→ That's may be true
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 23:09 ET by Cool ArrowIt's possible that Carter believes that.
But him believing it does not make it true.
To believe it, you would have to admit that Bush depicted as a chimp was racist - it's not.
That Bush depicted as Hitler was racist - it's not.
That Spike Lee's commentary on Bush was racist - it is.
You see racism because you lack specifics. You can't believe Americans, for the most part, don't want to be socialists.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Forget it - there are no
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 23:30 ET by Barry BondsForget it - there are no Right Wing racists. It was all a big hoax.
→ Bonds, that's twice
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 23:35 ET by Cool ArrowWhy do you insist there are no right-wing racists.
Are you being disingenuous again?
That's like saying there aren't any left-wing racists. We realize there are more of them on the left, but we realize they exist on the right also.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Did you know that David Duke ran for office TWICE as...
Wed, 09/23/2009 - 14:07 ET by Tailgunner...a DEMOCRAT?
That's right. In 1979 David Duke, the FOUNDER and GRAND WIZARD of the 'Knights of the Ku Klux Klan', the 'National Association for the Advancement of White People (NAAWP), a rabid anti-Semite who blamed the Mossad for 9/11, supporter of Holocaust deniers, convicted tax fraud and confidence man, and a Ku Klux Klan member since 1967...
...ran as a DEMOCRAT for the Louisiana State Senate.
Grand Wizard David Duke finished SECOND.
In 1988 Grand Wizard David Duke ran, again as a DEMOCRAT for President in the primaries, winning only New Hampshire.
Grand Wizard David Duke switched to the GOP later that year.
Now since the GOP is nothing more than white racists, you'd think Duke's career would skyrocket.
Not so.
In 1989 Grand Wizard David Duke won a special election to the Louisiana House of Representatives. President George H W Bush, Ronald Reagan, and 'other notable Republicans' endorsed Duke's opponent.
In 1990 Grand Wizard David Duke ran for US Senate. The GOP, including Senator John Danforth endorsed his DEMOCRAT opponents.
Grand Wizard David Duke's campaign manager's advice was to 'stick to attacking the blacks' and leave the Jews alone since 'nobody here cares about them anyway'.
In 1992 the GOP repudiated Grand Wizard David Duke. They tried unsuccessfully to block Duke's Presidential bid.
In 1999 Grand Wizard David Duke tried again. He sought the seat vacated by GOP Louisiana Representative Bob Livingston.
Grand Wizard David Duke was once again repudiated by the GOP.
GOP Chairman Jim Nicholson said, "There is no room in the party of Lincoln for a Klansman like David Duke."
The ONLY real political support that Grand Wizard David Duke EVER had came from...wait for it... DEMOCRATS.
Now, Mr Bonds, please resume your lecture.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democratic Senator Robert K Byrd is a recruiter and leader in the KU KLUX KLAN-a white supremacist group. Where in the HELL do Dems get off lecturing ANYONE on racism?
If there are, they are a fringe.
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 14:22 ET by TailgunnerNot like Democrats, where racism is mainstream.
White racists obviously feel more at home among Democrats anyway.
A person who's first thought is always 'racism' thinks like a racist, speaks like a racist, and acts like a racist.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democratic Senator Robert K Byrd is a recruiter and leader in the KU KLUX KLAN-a white supremacist group. Where in the HELL do Dems get off lecturing ANYONE on racism?
the one-trick pony strikes again
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 23:13 ET by candanceIntensely demonstrated animosity sounds a lot to me like angry people marching in the streets. To say that an overwhelming portion of those marchers were racist is a strong charge.
Liberals love doing that trick. We're not saying that candance or Shy or Free Stinker or any particular person is racist, but those anonymous shadows living in conservie households are. The vocabulary two-step is one of their favorite dances.
Now Mr Steriods will come back with a snappy remark about putting words in someone's mouth because I lack reading comprehension, even as every logical person in America knew exactly what that comment meant. Liberals are as predictable as the sunrise.
I was really hoping he
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 23:23 ET by BKeyserI was really hoping he wouldn't try to instigate on another thread. Too bad. I was watching the beatdown on the Newsweeks Kelley board.
Ever get the feeling some of these folks look a lot like this? (And I guess I'll get slammed as juvenile, but I'm not the one jumping from thread to thread arguement-baiting.)
pretty much, BKeyser
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 23:28 ET by candanceYou'll have to be patient with Mr. Steriods. His bosses sent him over here with only one talking point, so he has to get as much out of that as he can.
→ Mr. Steroids
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 23:32 ET by Cool ArrowBarry should be happy that President Carter is being compared so closely to President Obama.
Those two are so similar it's uncanny.
I gotta hand it to the Libs. They sure can play a mean joke on an unsuspecting populace.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
cool? candance?
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 23:36 ET by MrShy"Mr. Steroids" now, all of a sudden?
You can wire me the payments.... just PM me here. :)
when did you coin Mr. Steroids?
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 23:39 ET by candanceI just used it a few mins ago because it came to me then and there. Had no idea you already posted it. Didn't mean to step on your toes or anything.
→ Split the difference
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 23:42 ET by Cool ArrowMr. Rhoids
Or just Rhoids
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
→ Shy
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 23:39 ET by Cool ArrowWell, I really like the monniker.
Mr. Bobble-head, shrunken legumes, talented but has to cheat anyway. was too long.
Learned nothing from the others who have besmirched sports before him.
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candance & cool
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 23:41 ET by MrShyI'll let you pass. But Cool owes me a cool.... well... something. :p
I posted a long-ish thing defending Bush about an hour ago, with the header "Mr. Steroids".
→ Trippendicular Shy
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 23:43 ET by Cool ArrowGreat call.
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What do you consider what
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 23:44 ET by Barry BondsWhat do you consider what Bush did to the Right Wing?
→ A doublecross?
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 23:48 ET by Cool ArrowHe opened the doors to rampant socialism and rewarded the bad behavior of the banks, Freddie, and Fannie.
Now you're the one justifying bad behavior with somebody else's bad behavior.
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Bush did do some things we may not like, but he also did a lot
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 14:13 ET by pahuberof good in the judiciary & keeping our country safe...
IMHO President Bush '43 was a great POTUS.
Paul
no argument from me
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 23:55 ET by candanceI'm one of Bush's loudest critics here, have been for some time. I knew he was trouble the first time he passed out "stimulus" checks back in 01/02 and then NCLB, then the Patriot Act, then the bailouts. Bush has effectively killed the GOP for an entire generation.
Now you say something rude about Obama. I dare you.
candance~~
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:01 ET by BKeyserMaybe Barry should read this, then come back tomorrow afternoon with an explanation, huh?
That rumbling you hear is the beginning stages of a volcano.
candance
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:02 ET by MrShyI will be crediting you on the video as follows:
Screenplay by Mr. Shy & Bush Hater
:)
ha ha, shy
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:10 ET by candanceThen you can say the video is dedicated to Sheena and all other survivors. :p
Bush kept this nation safe from terrorist attack for eight years
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 15:30 ET by TailgunnerAnd it's not because al-Qaeda stopped trying.
The feds just broke up an al-Qaeda plot in NYC.
Convictions were only recently handed down for another al-Qaeda plot to blow up airliners entering the US using liquid explosives; a plot compared by counter-terror officials as 9/11 version 2.0.
Conservatives have very deep policy disagreements with Dubya. We won't close ranks like liberals do and attack anyone who makes substantive points.
But any President's basic Constitutional duty is to protect and defend this nation.
President Bush has done that. And he will be remembered by history for that accomplishment.
Even FDR, perhaps the most unabashed socialist President we've had, rightfully deserves to be remembered for his unconditional WWII victories over Germany, Japan and Italy.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democratic Senator Robert K Byrd is a recruiter and leader in the KU KLUX KLAN-a white supremacist group. Where in the HELL do Dems get off lecturing ANYONE on racism?
Call President Carter a liar. Please.
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 23:41 ET by Barry Bonds"I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he's African-American."
No talking point - just the facts ma'am. Just the facts.
→ Carter's a liar
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 23:45 ET by Cool ArrowNo problem there. I've already conceded Carter and Obama are virtually indistinguishable from each other in matters ideological.
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why not call Carter a liar?
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 23:46 ET by candanceWhat, like being a former president means you're wrapped in some magical plastic film that protects you from criticism?
Amazing how lefties so readily believed that Bush lied about Iraq but then act shocked when any other president is accused of lying.
Yes, I will say it clearly: Carter is lying. The overwhelming portion of those who intensely demonstrate animosity is not racist, any more than the intense animosity against Hillary Clinton or Al Gore or Nancy Pelosi is racist.
Oh, and the intensely demontrated animosity against Jimmy Carter did not stem from racism either.
Apparently Democrats woke up with amnesia January 20, 2009 and now think that conservies never hated a Democrat until they saw Obama.
Prove it. I'll wait. If
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:00 ET by Barry BondsProve it.
I'll wait.
If you want proof of the racism go to Media Matters, they have thoroughly documented it with video and transcripts. It's better than this trash.
candance
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:07 ET by MrShyYeah Cx2, go to..... Media Matters!
There!! GOT'CHA !!!!
EDIT:
Oh, lookies !!!! Media That Really Matters and Is Real Media For Real People is softening up and defending ACORN and attacking... now get this.... hoooold your hats people..... FOX and Beck:
http://mediamatters.org/columns/200909180055
WOOT WOOT !!!!!
MediaMatters, that bastion of unbiased journalism
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:05 ET by candanceWhat would you do if I said go look on Sean Hannity's website for all the proof you need? You'd laugh me out the door.
As to your insistence that I prove someone is not racist, you know that's impossible. It's a bit like asking you to prove you never thought a certain thing. That's what makes the racist accusation so effective: it's in the eye of the beholder.
Sean Hannity is a self
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:30 ET by Barry BondsSean Hannity is a self avowed entertainer.
I don't think Media Matters ever considered themselves entertainers.
Although, I might be wrong.
that's your defense?
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:34 ET by candanceYou're sticking with MM as a reliable source because they never admitted to being entertainers?
Are you sure you don't want a do-over?
Bonds' laughable source
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 05:13 ET by Vivaldi5No, they were just founded by David Brock, a self-confessed liar. It's also an interesting thing to follow the money supporting Media Matters. This is your idea of credibility, BB? Hannity shouldn't be believed because he is an "entertainer," but a liberal hit site founded by a known liar is somehow to be trusted?
How utterly laughable!
Based on your reasoning I
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 09:41 ET by Barry BondsBased on your reasoning I shouldn't use Microsoft products because they were sued by the government.
And based on your reasoning why do you listen to Rush and allow him to be your leader considering his past criminal activity? Glenn Beck?
How many Democrat leaders are now, or have been in the past...
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 14:08 ET by Tailgunner..been involved in criminal activity?
Hm. Chris Dodd, Barney Frank, Rep 'Cold Cash' Jefferson, Rep Alcee Hastings, Sen Robert 'KKK' Byrd, the late Sen Teddy Kennedy (RIP, Mary Jo), Bill AND Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama....
By your own standard, pal, you wouldn't HAVE a party.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democratic Senator Robert K Byrd is a recruiter and leader in the KU KLUX KLAN-a white supremacist group. Where in the HELL do Dems get off lecturing ANYONE on racism?
Don't forget Dan
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 14:12 ET by Sergeant ROCKDan Rostenkowski[sp?] that is...
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Barry Bondage
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 19:11 ET by Vivaldi5Barry, you're going to have to explain this non-sequitur (or actually, I guess you don't have to and you can go on to blather on other threads, as per your usual style:
Kindly explain how my "reasoning" as exemplified in my actual comment (as opposed to what you decided to think it meant) connects in any way, shape or form with "Microsoft" being "sued by the government."
Take your time. I'll wait.
Media Matters is a torn in
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 21:00 ET by Barry BondsMedia Matters is a torn in the Right Wings side because they document all of the non-sense coming out of that party. I have used their information to make my point and you don't impugn the information but the source because of its founder and his actions. Can you get any weaker?
Three bags full !
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 21:02 ET by Free StinkerThree bags full !
>FLUSH!< So much for
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 21:07 ET by NL207>FLUSH!<
So much for MM.
Like those points you made earlier about Limbaugh? I stopped debunking after the first three. There is plenty of independent corroboration on the net contradicting MM and supporting Limbaugh.
I used to post on MM. It got too easy to disprove the crap they post there so I went over to HuffPo, another target rich environment, where there is at least more honesty if not more intelligence.
What is a "torn"?
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 06:14 ET by Vivaldi5Please explain what a "torn in the Right Wings side" may be. Or did you perhaps mean "thorn"???
And again, please explain the leap from what I said about Media Matters to your non sequitur about Microsoft and the government. You simply distorted what I said and then called it Based on your reasoning. Sorry you have difficulty telling the difference.
Plus, please explain how information gathered from a person you called an "entertainer" is inferior to, and less reliable than, information gathered from an organization founded by a known and admitted liar.
Take your time. I'll wait.
You're obviously not bright
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 08:42 ET by Barry BondsYou're obviously not bright enough to see the flaws in your arguments after point them out TWICE so I won't continue to waste my time trying to educate you.
And I am going to keep putting mispelling in my comments so you can keep correcting me. Thus, adding purpose to your otherwise purposeless life.
Thank me.
If you're an example of bright, I'm proud to be something else
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 19:03 ET by Vivaldi5That's a cute cop out, Bondage. You can't articulate your arguments adequately, so you use a little mantra of "I won't continue to waste my time trying to educate you." Or sometimes "You are obviously intellectually dishonest and lack all credibility." And even "the reason why the posts are so few is because you guys are use to a circle jerk" (thanks, by the way, for showing us the caliber of your so-called mind with that off-color reference).
Whatever university you are the professor of (ACORN U? Media Mutters College?) is one I don't want to have "educate" me. (P.S. I intentionally misspelled "Media Matters" to help you feel comfortable in your ignorance.)
I am glad you find the spelling corrections helpful, though. I will let the forum judge whether my correcting you or your continuing to come here after you keep getting knocked over again and again for your silly talking points is more suggestive of an "otherwise purposeless life."
G'Day, Professor Soros-lite!
Easy BB, Question????? are you a democrat?
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 03:27 ET by upcountrywaterJust for fun what so you think of this link?
The older I get the more I am interested in History.
State controlled health care is Tort Reform.
Easy BB, Question????? are you a democrat?
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 03:20 ET by upcountrywaterJust for fun what so you think of this link?
The older I get the more I am interested in History.
State controlled health care is Tort Reform.
democRAT?
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 07:57 ET by Sergeant ROCKNo, a TROLL. I thought that was already determined?
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
That's what CARTER thinks!
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 16:38 ET by TailgunnerDemocrats have no objective evidence for any of this.
They have no standard to go by except what THEY would think in the same circumstances.
In other words, THEY think WE think the way THEY think.
And it's no coincidence that so many liberals have independently reached the conclusion that conservatives are the ones motivated by race. It's what THEY would do to a black person who disagrees with them.
And we've seen many, many instances where exactly this has happened.
For decades liberals have made the most despicable, slanderous, scurrilous, false and destructive RACIAL remarks against CONSERVATIVE blacks in an attempt to demean, neutralize and destroy them politically.
This isn't astroturf as some have claimed. This is genuine Democrat grassroots.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democratic Senator Robert K Byrd is a recruiter and leader in the KU KLUX KLAN-a white supremacist group. Where in the HELL do Dems get off lecturing ANYONE on racism?
If I were you and I had to
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 23:53 ET by Barry BondsIf I were you and I had to defend the indefensible i would jumble up things in my mind too.
You know there is a glaring hole in your argument and because you acknowledge it before I do does not mean it doesn't exist or diminished in any capacity.
Since when has the racism burden of proof been: "do you know the names of the racists?" "Well, since you don't know their names, they must not be racist."
Funny how you guys are giving George Will all the kudos when he was basically owned by the entire table.
Hey George - RACISM EXISTS!
Exhibit A: Rush "Barack The Magic Negro" Limbaugh and Glenn "Deeps Seated Hate For White People" Beck have both advanced the idea that ALL of Barack Obamas policies are about reparations. And that is just a little sample of the racism on the Right. Actually, this is an example of bigotry.
→ Barry
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:00 ET by Cool ArrowYour side coined the term. You know it. And you can't stand that a liberal journalist made such a stupid point.
So, to say Rush is racist for playing the song, you have to admit Liberals were racist for coming up with the term.
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So if a black rapper says
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:08 ET by Barry BondsSo if a black rapper says the N word its has the same connotation and gravity as if a Klansman had said it, right?
Same thing with the C or B word, a woman and a non-woman correct?
→ Yes
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:12 ET by Cool ArrowUnless you favor a different standard for one race than another.
Of course that is exactly the lie the Libs have sold ethnic groups for 45 years.
The soft bigotry of low expectations has gone blatant.
I'm not surprised you would believe some, because of their race, should be held to a lower standard.
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So blacks are bigoted
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:18 ET by Barry BondsSo blacks are bigoted against themselves when they say the N word to each other?
→ Yes
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:24 ET by Cool ArrowIn a very real way, they are buying into the Liberal concept that they are incapable of racial respect.
You've already bought the concept, and feel comfortable with it.
Being comfortable with a prejudicial, oppressive idea doesn't make it right.
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cool -->
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:31 ET by MrShyI think I really love you. Almost as much as Bush.
You are probably really teaching this Steroid Addict something important that might very well be life-changing for him.
aren't you up on modern things, cool?
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:32 ET by candanceI can't tell you how many times a female walked up to me and said "hey you two bit concubine, go bake me some cookies in the kitchen" and then we had a big laugh about it.
I would think so
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:29 ET by candanceYou don't see Jews going around telling each other to jump in an oven. You don't see Irish people calling each other "Paddy off the boat." You don't hear Vietnamese people calling each other Charlie or Russian people calling themselves comrades.
And women today certainly do not go around joking in pop songs about how funny it was when they were too stupid to vote.
It makes no sense for blacks to demean themselves with antiquated insults. And it really makes no sense for white liberals to encourage it by calling it harmless.
candance
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:34 ET by MrShyI don't want to copy-paste the first line, because it's actually quite awful, but I reeeeeally belted out a laugh at that one.
And thanks. Yeah, seeing Angel/Dawn tomorrow for a test shoot/wardrobe rehearsal. This video's a mess, though. Need to totally change the frame rate from 24 to 30, I just discovered :(
yeah, MrShy
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:39 ET by candanceI thought twice about posting that because I was afraid it might be too much. I sincerely hope no Jewish readers take that the wrong way.
Reshoot the frame rate?
So you're equating 6mm
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:36 ET by Barry BondsSo you're equating 6mm deaths with a word?
And if your argument is that blacks are the only self-deprecating people on the earth you're more skewed than I previously thought.
Sorry but the N word is like aloha or dude. I can be used in many different situations: not all negative. And the black community doesn't turn to the white community to find validation in their actions.
why not equate death with a word
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:44 ET by candanceThe two little words "Jewish problem," followed closely by two little words "final solution" is what led to all those deaths. It was quite similar to the "Irish problem" that was conveniently solved during the Potato Famine.
Self-deprication is not the same as self-destruction. I'm pretty sure if you heard your daughter call herself a dumb broad, you wouldn't take it as lighthearted humor.
Dude is never an insult on the level of N. Not even close. That argument gets you nowhere.
Lastly, if the black community doesn't need validation from whites, then don't come on to NB begging for validation.
candance
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:48 ET by MrShy"Lastly, if the black community doesn't need validation from whites, then don't come on to NB begging for validation."
Ouch. That one REALLY had to burn, I'm sure. Let's see....
You are obviously out of
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 09:01 ET by Barry BondsYou are obviously out of your delusional mind. I came to bury Caesar not to praise him.
Are you the designated Black Delegation spokes person? Probably not, so you don't know what the N word means among blacks.
I guess in your Doomsday mind every time a black person says the N word he is slowly killing himself and his community.
Um, OK, Mr. Troll...
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 19:14 ET by Vivaldi5Barry Bondage: "You are obviously out of your delusional mind. I came to bury Caesar not to praise him."
Um, OK--you think you're at a funeral in 44 BC and you're accusing others of having delusional minds????
Guess that's no more nonsensical than anything else you've said in this forum!
Barry
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:45 ET by MrShyYou need to take a break from this site and come back when you have a clue.
The N- word = bad. Period. And in every way possible we're trying to teach you why it is. It's also their way of locking me out from their world, using it out loud in front of me between them. THAT is pure segregation on their part.
I have to hear it a lot, and it disgusts me.
how dare you, shy
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:58 ET by candanceYou are not to ever accuse a black liberal of seeing the world in terms of black and white.
Conveniently notice Mr. Steriod's avoidance of Boyce Watkins calling Juan Williams a "happy negro" or the constant label of "Uncle Tom" that was applied to Colin Powell in the Bush years.
Apparently that was all in good self-deprecating humor as well.
→ I didn't know
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 01:02 ET by Cool ArrowI didn't know Bonds is black.
Gosh, reckon he'd appreciate it if I treated him differently?
Obviously he would.
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Stupidity
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 10:08 ET by UnsaneI don't know about y'all, but I like good old self-deprecating humor. My mother and I constantly refer to each other as "Hun", "Jerry", "Kraut", and "Wop".
:-)
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
more galley humor from black liberals
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 01:05 ET by candance“I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease....He is an absolutely reprehensible person.”
— USA Today columnist and Pacifica Radio talk show host Julianne Malveaux on Justice Clarence Thomas, November 4, 1994 PBS’s To the Contrary.
I'm sure there is some context where that can be said as a compliment....
→ Self deprecating?
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:46 ET by Cool ArrowThe "N" word is a joke?
You really do have a bad case of it, don't you?
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No. We are equating 6M
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:57 ET by NL207No. We are equating 6M deaths with an idea that word represents.
You don't think that's possible?
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 17:05 ET by TailgunnerHave you ever heard the degrading term, 'acting white'?
Blacks use that to smear other blacks they perceive as trying to excel within the system, academically or otherwise.
It's a way to ostracize and discourage those who would otherwise 'sell out' their 'race'. It may also account for the poor graduation rates in certain school systems.
The 'N word' is no different. It's used by blacks and whites as a way to put someone 'back in their place' who makes the mistake of thinking about himself as a human being.
Absolute bigotry.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democratic Senator Robert K Byrd is a recruiter and leader in the KU KLUX KLAN-a white supremacist group. Where in the HELL do Dems get off lecturing ANYONE on racism?
why isn't it?
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:14 ET by candanceI've never understood for the life of me why rappers embraced that ugly word. And if anyone calls me the b word, female or no, it's an insult. We can't keep letting bad words float through our culture as long as "the right people" are saying it.
Speaking of Klansmen, a sitting Democrat Senator wants to know what's wrong with his people.
The B-word represents yet
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 14:11 ET by NL207The B-word represents yet another idea conservatives in general oppose.
Either condemn all or none.
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:38 ET by Tailgunner'So if a black rapper says the N word its has the same connotation and gravity as if a Klansman had said it, right?'
In a true colorblind society? YES.
The meaning is the same. 'Ni**er' or 'Ni**a' or however it's spelled, it's a vicious, degrading slur.
The fact that blacks can use these words and whites cannot(unless they're a Democratic Senator who is a KKK leader) is proof that we are not a colorblind nation with equal rights and responsibilities.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democratic Senator Robert K Byrd is a recruiter and leader in the KU KLUX KLAN-a white supremacist group. Where in the HELL do Dems get off lecturing ANYONE on racism?
What does color blindness
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:45 ET by Barry BondsWhat does color blindness have to do with connotation?
Whites can and do use the word. It's just not advisable behavior. And of course that goes both ways.
And in your mind once a racist always a racist - there is no redemption in the Right Wing - correct?
And if you forgive someone for an action you're a hypocrite?
→ You're drifting
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:52 ET by Cool ArrowWhites can and do use the word.
It's not right for them anymore than it is for anyone else.
Why do you insist on protecting words of hatred?
I know you have a 1st Amendment right to say all sorts of nonsense, but that doesn't make it right.
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Stop your crying: your
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 01:07 ET by Barry BondsStop your crying: your leader is Rush Limbaugh, King of Hate Speech.
A typically ignorant liberal smear without proof or evidence.
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 16:32 ET by TailgunnerNationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democratic Senator Robert K Byrd is a recruiter and leader in the KU KLUX KLAN-a white supremacist group. Where in the HELL do Dems get off lecturing ANYONE on racism?
I listen to Rush almost
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 16:49 ET by Barry BondsI listen to Rush almost every single day.
He is the most clever and entertaining guy on the radio.
He also happens to be a liar and a person who makes millions of dollars getting the right wing excited by any means necessary.
You are obviously intellectually dishonest and lack all credibility.
The only liar here is you
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 16:57 ET by bigtimerThe only liar here is you BB.
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
ANOTHER ignorant, fact- and evidence-free liberal smear, pal.
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 17:01 ET by TailgunnerGive me some examples of Rush's lies; say, five.
REAL examples...not just ideological disagreements.
You won't. You can't. I can't.
So far you're the only really intellectually dishonest- and bankrupt- person here.
Now if all you got left is personal smears and name calling, pal, just move on and let the ADULTS continue this discussion.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democratic Senator Robert K Byrd is a recruiter and leader in the KU KLUX KLAN-a white supremacist group. Where in the HELL do Dems get off lecturing ANYONE on racism?
Here you go - brought to you by the good folks at MM.
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 18:46 ET by Barry Bonds1"If Obama doesn't want to win the war in Afghanistan,it wouldn't come as a surprise, because he has said as much"
2)"[I]n Obama's America, the white kids now get beat upwith the black kids cheering"
3)Limbaugh refers to "2 million people crowd" at9/12 protests
4)LIMBAUGH: "It will cover undocumented aliens. "
5) Limbaugh:Obama using "scare tactics" even though it's his "health careplan that will cause more people to die"
6) Limbaugh:"there are no bogus claims. ... We are spreading the truth to save thecountry from you and your czars"
7) Limbaugh:Obama policies not those of a man "with a heart"; he's "workingoutside" political system to "overthrow it"
8) Limbaugh: "[T]his speech to the kids today aboutpersonal responsibility ... it's a trick, it's a scam, and it's a joke"
9) Limbaugh: Obama'sreference to "personal responsibility" in education speech is"great stuff, but that's not what he believes"
10) Limbaugh on"young Barney Frank ... covering his upper body with shaving cream":"are they sure it was shaving cream?"
Wow, that was tough. Oh, and this was just from the month ofSeptember 2009.
Now, I know the last one isn't a lie, I just added it to show how classless your POS leader is.
For your benefit, here is the definition of lie: 1 : to make an untrue statement with intent to deceive 2 : to create a false or misleading impression. That was from Mr. Webster. Thanks, Mr. Webster.
LOL BB... Soros/MM are
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 18:52 ET by bigtimerLOL BB...
Soros/MM are paying you far too much.
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
Obama said on 7/23/09 in an
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 19:11 ET by NL207Obama said on 7/23/09 in an interview with ABC:
"I'm always worried about using the word 'victory,' because, you know, it invokes this notion of Emperor Hirohito coming down and signing a surrender to MacArthur,"
One strike.
White student beaten on school bus Sept 15 2009. Watch it. It's instructive.
Two strikes.
London Daily Mail estimates 9/12 crowd at up to two million. These photos convey the size better than most.
Looks like Limbaugh is a lot closer than the Major Nets or those leftwing hacks at MediaMatters.
Strike three.
You lose.
FAIL, FAIL, and Major FAIL.
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 22:26 ET by Tailgunner1) Afghanistan. Obama HAS made remarks about 'not speaking of 'victory' because he didn't 'like' the term.
FAIL.
2) A white kid WAS recently beat up on a school bus BY black kids with the REST of the black kids CHEERING.
FAIL.
3) "2 million crowd': Here we go again with the 'sixteen words' assault Democrats falsely used on Bush during the Iraq War.
Bush was quoting British Intelligence, who then as now stood by the conclusion, when he alleged Saddam was 'buying uranium from Niger'.
Quoting a source with which you disagree does not mean the person doing the quoting is a liar.
Perhaps you can tell us all exactly how many people showed up at the 9/12 rallies?
FAIL.
4) ILLEGAL (not 'undocumented') aliens are ALREADY receiving free medical care in the US.
One ILLEGAL alien has already received TWO taxpayer-funded liver transplants and is still here in the US.
Democrats have defeated multiple amendments offered by the GOP specifically intended to ensure that ILLEGAL aliens are not entitled to taxpayer healthcare under Obamacare.
Therefore it is a logical conclusion for Rush to claim that Obamacare WILL cover ILLEGAL aliens.
FAIL.
5) Obamacare is nothing new. It's the same old nationalized healthcare we see in Canada, the UK, the Netherlands and France with its rationing, long waiting lists, arbitrary and inhuman denials of care and drugs that allow people to go blind, live in severe pain, and ultimately die with no appeal.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
FAIL.
6) through 10) Major FAIL. You (or those at MM who are breastfeeding you) merely disagree with, or don't 'like' these statements. This does not justify calling them 'lies'.
If you tried thinking for yourself, pal, instead of running off to 'Media Mommies' every time you need talking points, I think your head would explode.
And I don't think your mother would enjoy cleaning up what passes for your gray matter off the walls of her basement.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democratic Senator Robert K Byrd is a recruiter and leader in the KU KLUX KLAN-a white supremacist group. Where in the HELL do Dems get off lecturing ANYONE on racism?
Man, this is really getting
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 23:29 ET by Barry BondsMan, this is really getting old.
You can conflate, misdirect and do whatever else you need to do to take what I have referenced and misconstrue and mischaracterize it until it suits your purposes.
I am not going to re-write what I have already written so that you are again confronted with what I actually said compared to what you wanted me to say.
So please take your cheap, antiquated, parlor tricks somewhere else because we're not impressed over here.
You Fail again!
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 23:31 ET by Free StinkerYou Fail again!
That is getting old! Try to succeed for once will ya?
Your are truly hopeless
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 23:50 ET by RESTLESS 1You quote one of the most dishonest sites on the web, and get smacked down with facts, and all you can do is mutter in you beard about misdirection and conflation.
Misdirection and conflation is exactly what your MM post was.
"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest
Facts? Don't make me
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 00:13 ET by Barry BondsFacts? Don't make me laugh.
"Wait, wait, wait...that's not what Rush meant. What he was trying to say was...."
→ Rhoid man
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 00:25 ET by Cool ArrowWhy on earth should you need prompting to laugh.
You have a Democrat Prez, and two whopping majorities in Congress. Why isn't your side pushing through all the oppressive legislation it can get its lobbyists to write for them.
You don't need the conservatives.
What you want is that conservatives share the blame when all your plans lead to financial ruin.
You've only got another year and a half. You better quit joking around.
What thou doest, do quickly. And Obama went out into the night.
A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!
Good evening Cool
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 00:45 ET by cocodrieIs he a Hemi or just a generic rhoid?
Jesus Loves You so much He died for you
→ A Hemi for sure
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 00:51 ET by Cool ArrowYou wish he'd go away, but he hangs out anyway.
A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!
Yes, facts.
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 00:35 ET by RESTLESS 1I know you're unfamiliar with facts, but you can look up the term yourself.
The 0 doesn't want to win in Afghanistan. The commander there wants more troops, or in his words, the war will be lost. The 0 is mulling it over while trying to decide which conclusion will get him reelected. FACT
Outside St. Louis, a school bus of mostly black students laughs while two black kids attack a white student. They shout "boom, boom, boom," and taunt the white kid. The msm's, and the 0's lax attitude toward, race baiting is cited by Rush to show where all of this race baiting could potentially lead. FACT
Illegals get free health care, as well as free education, now. If coverage is mandated, yes for illegals too, read the damn HR3200 will ya, and illegals can't afford it, what do you think will happen? FACT.
The Daily Mail reported 2 million. This is not Rush's claim, so you can't accuse him of lying here. FACT.
People on socialized healthcare in other countries are being left without life saving drugs. It's happening in Britain, and since ours will mimic theirs, it will happen here. FACT
The rest of you post is just opinion and typical liberal bs. You are not special troll. FACT is, you are pretty run of the mill.
"If the man, with the power, can't keep it under control...some heads are gonna roll." -Judas Priest
R1... That post is a
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 00:52 ET by bigtimerR1...
That post is a beaut.
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
You're FUN.
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 12:52 ET by TailgunnerYour Media Mommies cheat sheet, which you put no thought into whatsoever, has been repeatedly sliced and diced here by some of the best in the blogosphere.
Your frustration is what's misdirected here. You should be at MM beating John Podesta about the head and shoulders telling him to come up with some better lies.
You didn't 'write' anything to begin with, pal.
All you did was unthinkingly cut and paste some butchered and hydraulically wrenched out of context misquotes from the ideological hitmen at Media Morons, robotically post it on NB and expect us all to roll over in utter defeat.
Please, please, pretty please, tell me what any of us did to 'conflate, misdirect, misconstrue and mischaracterize' your points?
(The only things I ever 'conflate' are my tires.)
You were doing a pretty good job of that on your own.
"So please take your cheap, antiquated, parlor tricks somewhere else because we're not impressed over here."
(Oh, this is good, coming from the Svengali of the Internet.)
What you mean we, paleface?
You've been here for a month...I've been here for just under a year.
How's it feel to be the 'comic relief' of NB?
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democratic Senator Robert K Byrd is a recruiter and leader in the KU KLUX KLAN-a white supremacist group. Where in the HELL do Dems get off lecturing ANYONE on racism?
For the intellectually lazy/coddled
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 01:16 ET by UnsaneHate Speech - A term used by intellectually lazy/coddled people to describe all speech that disagrees even in the slightest way with Leftist/Statist/Socialist orthodoxy. It is a term used to get conservatives to SHUT UP, because the Left cannot face Rightist arguments squarely in the arena of ideas.
Limbaugh is not the leader of anything. I cannot recall an election he has run in, much less won. He can't do anything to you. And as much as you hate him, all you need to do to not listen to him is turn off the radio.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
Unlike Liberals, I will never forgive a KKK LEADER and RECRUITER
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 15:45 ET by TailgunnerHow many of Byrd's 'recruits' went on to beat and murder blacks or civil rights workers?
Byrd has never repented. He's just learned as he got older to keep his mouth shut.
Who said liberals FORGAVE Byrd? They rewarded him.
Hell, he was doing their dirty work during Jim Crow.
'And in your mind once a racist always a racist - there is no redemption in the Right Wing - correct?'
Does the Left forgive racism? Based on your remarks, they do.
I don't.
I probably have more white guilt than the entire Obama White House over the horrors of Jim Crow.
I will never forgive anyone who had anything to do with keeping terrorized mothers and children awake at night wondering when 'they' would come for their husband or father...or their mother.
I would see Robert Byrd kidnapped and put on trial in the same way the Mossad pursues fugitive Nazis decades later...because there should never be a statute of limitations on terror.
No liberal would ever subscribe to the idea that a Nazi thug could ever 'redeem' himself. (At least we agree on something.)
As far as liberals are concerned, there's no redemption FOR the 'Right Wing'.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democratic Senator Robert K Byrd is a recruiter and leader in the KU KLUX KLAN-a white supremacist group. Where in the HELL do Dems get off lecturing ANYONE on racism?
I will forgive him but I
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 19:21 ET by NL207I will forgive him but I will also never elect such a man to public office.
you're right, Mr. Steroids
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:01 ET by candanceHow rude of Rush Limbaugh to quote the LA Times. Those journalists must have been racist indeed. And how presumptuous of Beck to think that someone who uttered the phrase "typical white person" and wrote in his memoir "that's just how white people will do you" might have a thing against white people.
The burden of proof is not knowing names, but there is a burden nonetheless. So far your case seems to be:
Rush created a parody --> the overwhelming portion of those who demonstrate against Obama are racist.
Slow down a little next time. The underpants gnomes are taking notes.
So in your mind: "typical
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:15 ET by Barry BondsSo in your mind: "typical white person" is more of a racist statement instead a statement of stereotypes.
First, do you know the definition of racist?
Blacks have experienced the definition have you ever experienced it?
Wait, in your mind it doesn't exist so how could you?
You guys wonder why you have no numbers and no leader.
→ Yes, I have
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:20 ET by Cool ArrowI've experienced it. So what?
You're free to believe your condescending attitude towards blacks isn't racist, but it is.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
statement of stereotypes
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:23 ET by candanceSo it's okay for Obama to promote a stereotype about white people hating blacks, but it's not okay for Beck to then think that maybe Obama believes in the stereotype of white people hating blacks?
When did I say racism doesn't exist? Quote please. And while you are at it, show me the crystal ball you used to determine my skin color.
Fine, if racism exists then
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:39 ET by Barry BondsFine, if racism exists then you agree with President Carters statement. Finally.
I don't care what your skin color is... I asked you a question.
Your comment regarding Beck and stereotypes makes absolutely NO SENSE!
follow me very closely
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:50 ET by candanceObama said white people are typically racist.
Beck said Obama thinks whites are racist.
See the connection, or will you continue playing obtuse?
Agreeing with the existence of racism does not mean Carter was right about "the overwhelming portion" of demontrators being racist. There was racism in the 90s but it had nothing to do with conservies hating BJ Clinton. There was racism in 2000 but it had nothing to do with Al Gore.
You can't make the claim that racism exists = protestors are racist. That's called a leap of logic.
Just a minute, candance...
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 01:01 ET by JerJust a minute, candance...
If you are going to make those kinds of charges, I think it important you get the wording correct. And, to the best of my recollection, Obama never said or wrote "white people are typically racist" nor has he claimed that "whites hate blacks". But, I could be mistaken. Do you have evidence that he has made such statements?
Jer
look to my post below, Jer
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 01:18 ET by candanceObama has said plenty about white people to show exactly what he thinks about racism.
Look to his pastor and spiritual 'advisor'.
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 13:52 ET by TailgunnerObama boasted about Rev Jeremiah Wright as his 'spiritual advisor' and 'mentor'.
Obama sat in Rev Wright's church for twenty years. That's one thousand Sundays.
What kind of 'mentoring' and 'spiritual advice' did Obama receive from Rev Wright?
"...If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy."
This is only a small part of the ugly racist doctrine, Black Liberation Theology, which is what Rev Wright embraces and preaches...and even advises.
Now twenty years of listening to this racist garbage, without the overwhelming urge to either run outside to vomit or run up to the pulpit and bitch-slap the execrable Jeremiah Wright for spreading such poison, means Obama has internalized the doctrine of black racist hostility towards whites.
Obama is like the New Black Panther Party thugs outside the Philadelphia polling place...but without the berets.
Yes, Obama is a racist.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democratic Senator Robert K Byrd is a recruiter and leader in the KU KLUX KLAN-a white supremacist group. Where in the HELL do Dems get off lecturing ANYONE on racism?
"What kind of 'mentoring'
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 19:23 ET by NL207"What kind of 'mentoring' and 'spiritual advice' did Obama receive from Rev Wright?"
This begs the question: "What kind of soul does Obama have after weathering 1000 sundays of Rev Wright?"
Gunner we are all racists,
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 21:07 ET by Dan The Man 2Gunner we are all racists, Obama never said anything derogatory in his life. He is an absolute saint and like the man intentioned we must bow down to Duh One.
Can you provide the specific
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 01:05 ET by Barry BondsCan you provide the specific quote where Obama said that white people are typically racist?
When did Beck say that Obama thinks people are racists? Provide quote.
So your position is that 100% of the people who are protesting Obama on policy issues are doing so based solely on merits. 100%. So basically, there are no racists within the vocal part of the Right Wing. All of the racist stay home and simply watch t.v. and go about their daily lives without even making a sound.
I provided the quote which stated that ... Here it is again: "I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man, that he's African-American."
Where does it say "protester are racist" in that quote? Talk about leap in logic.
→ Barry
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 01:12 ET by Cool Arrow"The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial
animosity," Obama said on WIP. "She doesn't. But she is a typical white
person who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know, there's a reaction that's been bred into our experiences that don't go away, and that sometimes comes out in the wrong way, and that's just the nature of race in our society."
Barry, I don't know what's been "bred" into you, but if it's "bred" it doesn't leave.
I didn't have racism "bred" into me, sorry you believe it is.
"Pwned"?
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 09:10 ET by Barry BondsSince when did "somebody" come to be known as "black person"?
And I guess you take all hyperbolic statements literally. And this entire paragraph wasn't an example of racism but prejudice. You're mixing up your definitions. You can't use the word as a catchall for all bad behavior. Running a red light isn't racism. Cheating on taxes isn't racism. Falling asleep in church isn't racism. You guys are funny.
And finally, now I am being credited with Obamas thoughts. Wow.
Don't feed the TROLLS!
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 09:16 ET by Sergeant ROCKWell, just this once..
Running a red light isn't racism. Cheating on taxes isn't racism. Falling asleep in church isn't racism.
According to liberals it is when the accuser is 'white' and the accused is 'non-white'. Happens all of the time. Racist minorites are always using 'racism' as an excuse for bad behavior.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
more of the vocabulary two step
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 01:16 ET by candanceObama called his grandmother a "typical white person" specifically for treating a strange black man a certain way. And his memoirs are full of anti-white sentiments including this little gem here.
After seeing this evidence, Beck was led to suggest that Obama has "a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture."
Were there a few wackos in DC who are racist? Probably so. Were the overwhelming portion of them racist? No. Why is that so hard?
Cool Arrow and Candance
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 05:30 ET by Vivaldi5I think you can put "pwned" on this one--thanks for providing what Bonds (said he) wanted when he asked for a "specific quote where Obama said that white people are typically racist."
Of course I don't expect him to respond to this inconvenient evidence you gave him--probably will move on to blather at someone else. To adapt something our president once said, "That's just how Barry Bonds will do you"!
How do you like me now?
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 09:13 ET by Barry BondsHow do you like me now?
Nope, you're still PWNED
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 19:17 ET by Vivaldi5Nope, Bondage, you are still definitely PWNED by Cool Arrow and candance. Just too dim to realize it.
Sorry but being candid about
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 09:27 ET by Barry BondsSorry but being candid about your feelings toward white people and the white community doesn't make you a racist.
When a white person says that the black community is filled with criminals and single parents he isn't a racist because of it - he is speaking the ugly truth that makes you feel uncomfortable. Its not talk that polite people should be having but it is still the truth besides the hyperbolic elements of the statements: "filled with".
→ Should it?
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 09:41 ET by Cool ArrowThe destruction of the black family due to the neverending "War On Poverty" isn't something over which you should gloat.
When it comes to results, your intentions don't amount to much. But after 45 years of this, I have to believe it's institutional racism on the Liberals' part.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
War on Poverty
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 09:45 ET by Sergeant ROCKWhen will we see Harry Reid declare the war 'lost'?
Of course, he won't. The War on Poverty is an instrument of leftist democRATS that has been a failure - assuming that the goal was to lift people from poverty?.. Oh wait..
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
→ Rock
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 09:53 ET by Cool ArrowI submit the "War on Poverty" has been a smashing success for the Liberals.
The Welfare State perpetuates poverty and dependency. And dependency ensures allegiance to the Democrats.
It's an insidious cycle of codependency.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
I see your point, until it
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 17:26 ET by JerI see your point, until it runs smack into Cool's 'other' Guiding Principle of Liberal Behavior: The deliberate extermination of the black race.
And your argument becomes confused.
Jer
→ Jer
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 17:53 ET by Cool ArrowI don't believe I ever intimated that liberals have any intention to exterminate the object of their fawning, condescending, affection.
Liberals have accomplished something heretofore unseen in politics. But it's a blatant slap at the heart of Dr. King's Dream.
Go for the color and the character be damned!
I get it. You win. But I'll never agree.
A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!
Cool...
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 18:26 ET by Jer"Liberals have accomplished something heretofore unseen in politics. But it's a blatant slap at the heart of Dr. King's Dream." [my emphasis]
Go for the color and the character be damned!
*******************************
"Heretofore unseen in politics"!!? That's a joke, right? For generations, the political infrastructure of the southern states--built and maintained largely by conservative Democrats--rested on that very premise.
Jer
if I may speak for Cool
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 18:33 ET by candanceI think he meant that modern liberals have pulled quite the magic trick by building a plantation around minorities while disguising it as setting them free.
→ Understood CD
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 18:35 ET by Cool ArrowExactly what I understood him to say.
A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!
I won't blame Jer for misunderstanding
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 18:38 ET by candanceSometimes I hear people talk about something and the dots just don't line up for me. It happens.
candance...understanding Cool
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 19:11 ET by JerTrue, I sometimes misconstrue or misinterpret words and intent, however, in this case, I perfectly understood Cool's argument--its just another variation of one he has often advanced at this site; some components with which I actually agree--but merely took issue with his suggestion that it (a person's color) was without political or historical precedent until liberals made it so.
Jer
→ You got me
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 18:34 ET by Cool ArrowBut somewhere along the way the Democrats realized they did not want poor people to reach self sufficiency. Sinking all boats was a stroke of human perfidy even Machiavelli could admire.
How many shrines to Big Daddy Byrd so far?
A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!
candance...
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 17:39 ET by JerFor one who has mentioned "context" more than once in this thread alone, I am surprised you would post "that little gem" which cherry picks quotes and publishes them without a shred of context in an effort to prove Obama's alleged racism. The segment alluding to Malcom X is a prime example--Obama is actually rejecting his philosophy rather than embracing it.
Jer
you win, Jer
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 17:52 ET by candanceEvery single quote in that montage was a harmless misunderstanding. And it's perfectly fine for Obama to say that typical white people are afraid of those who are different.
It's okay for you to call conservies racist, but Beck is not allowed to call a Democrat racist.
In other words:
Democrat = right
Conservative = wrong.
→ Wow! Candance
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 17:56 ET by Cool ArrowScroll up. I just conceded to Jer also.
He must be feeling pretty puffed up right about now.
A Democrat killed Harvey Milk, Nancy!
let him have it
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 18:06 ET by candanceLiberals can psychicly know that Limbaugh fans are racist, Beck is intentionally stirring emotion, Bush knowingly lied about Iraq, and Israel feels no remorse for collatoral damage - but by God, a conservie better not try to attach a motive to a quote from a Democrat.
Hey lets all bow to Jer's
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 21:10 ET by Dan The Man 2Hey lets all bow to Jer's infinite wisdom.
candance...
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 18:08 ET by JerI don't know how many of or to what extent the quotes were misrepresented, but it was clear the "montage" was agenda-driven and its credibility suspect.
In light of the great respect I have for you, candance, I trust when you say "It's okay for you to call conservies racist", the word "you" doesn't mean me. You have been here long enough to know I haven't, I don't, and I condemn the practice.
Jer
of course that wasn't you personally
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 18:13 ET by candanceIt was a figure of speech. I actually thought about that right after posting it.
Fair point about the YouTube clip being biased - but does it perk your interest at all about Obama's view of white people?
candance...
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 18:49 ET by JerThanks. I thought it must have been a reference to the many on the left who do make the charge.
But, I also know this: When Rush refers to Obama as "a baaad man...an angry black man"; Beck claims the president has a "deep seated hatred of whites"; their conservative audience echos the claims....and Democrats (e.g. the jaw-droppingly idiotic Carter)counter with their traditional, gratuitous and incendiary flinging of the race card--we all are headed for big trouble.
Jer
I believe Rush and Beck are both correct.
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 21:58 ET by TailgunnerLet's talk about:
-Obama's upbringing without a real father (like me, so I understand that part, FWIW),
-His mentoring by a committed Communist, Frank Davis, by definition an angry anti-American.
Obama quoted him as saying: "Leaving your race at the door. Leaving your people behind. Understand something, boy. You’re not going to college to get educated. You’re going there to get trained."
"He added, "they’ll tank on your chain and let you know that you may be a well-trained, well-paid n***er, but you’re a n***er just the same." (spelled out in full in the actual quote)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/2...
(You might want to read the entire article. There are some very disturbing allegations about Davis that I will not explore here as their relevance is debatable.)
-Then Obama sought out, as quoted from 'Dreams From my Father', "The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets...", as comrades-in-arms and role models.
-Reverend Wright, whose hate-filled black supremacist anti-American ravings are public record, hammered his anti-American bile, lunatic conspiracy theories and racist pseudo-Christian heresy into Obama's soul for twenty long years.
Probably Obama is more like Rev Wright than any other of his influences, save Frank Davis.
-Bill Ayers, who literally founded an anti-American domestic terrorist organization and AT LEAST bombed federal buildings...just like the left's favorite whipping boy Timothy McVeigh. (Maybe Ayers is jealous because he wasn't as good at it.)
Ayers was Obama's 'Ed Sullivan'. He introduced Obama to the glitterati of Chicago politics. They worked together on a board distributing millions to groups who, as the record shows, were not chosen based on educational merit, but political correctness.
Somewhere along the way Ayers' utter loathing for this country must have rubbed off. (Ayers was recently photographed standing on an American flag. Maybe we shouldn't be so hard on Obama for merely refusing to salute it.)
I think it's completely logical to conclude, based on Obama's goldmine of history of his upbringing and associations that he is, in fact, an angry, young, black, man.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democratic Senator Robert K Byrd is a recruiter and leader in the KU KLUX KLAN-a white supremacist group. Where in the HELL do Dems get off lecturing ANYONE on racism?
candance
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 01:12 ET by MrShyOops.... look who just threw his hat into the ring.
Carter is right. There is racism...in the DEMOCRAT PARTY.
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:56 ET by TailgunnerYour insinuation is that if there is any racism AT ALL, no matter how fringe or unwelcome they are, in the GOP that invalidates ANY opposition by ANY member of the GOP, no matter how mainstream.
Fine. We can play that game.
Read my tagline. Once a Nazi, always a Nazi. Once a Klansman, always a Klansman.
And don't tell us he's 'repented'.
Even though, according to all of you on the left, I'm a 'racist', I will not accept the idea that a man who hates blacks deeply enough to join an organization devoted to beating, kiling and terrorizing them can 'repent' and be treated as if it never happened.
More likely is that Byrd learned to keep his mouth shut.
He's the one who's setting off all of your 'unspoken racist detectors'.
He's a RACIST.
So I expect all of you leftwing racists, especially Mr Bonds, to kindly shut up now.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democratic Senator Robert K Byrd is a recruiter and leader in the KU KLUX KLAN-a white supremacist group. Where in the HELL do Dems get off lecturing ANYONE on racism?
Does your mantra apply to
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 01:09 ET by Barry BondsDoes your mantra apply to drug addicts or are they exempt?
Nice try, pal. But it ain't workin'.
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 13:30 ET by TailgunnerI just established beyond a reasonable doubt that Democrats, by embracing and honoring a KU KLUX KLAN LEADER, ARE the party of RACISM...
...and all you can do is ignore the complete destruction of your pitiful argument and try to divert this to some utterly irrelevant issue.
Nice try, pal.
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democratic Senator Robert K Byrd is a recruiter and leader in the KU KLUX KLAN-a white supremacist group. Where in the HELL do Dems get off lecturing ANYONE on racism?
BB
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:41 ET by MrShyI've experienced racism too in these NYC parts, and I'm positive more than most blacks in my age group, and definitely the younger ones.
But I don't bring it up because it is.... get this.... irrelevant.
Set the same standard for all people, 'Roid Rage. Until you do this, you're just a moron chasing your own tail over racist-this, racist-that nonsense.
I know I can't tell you what
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:52 ET by Barry BondsI know I can't tell you what is relevant or irrelevant to you in your own life but why do you presume to be able to tell others about their lives?
You don't see the value in calling out others on their actions but I do. There are a lot of people who suffer in silence because of racism and I don't think things are going to get any better by ignoring the issues.
I personally think that maybe one day people like Beck won't be able to make millions of dollars and influence millions of people by stoking the flames of hate.
Are you so naive to think that if you don't beat back the ugliness of racism that it won't make it worse by emboldening the practitioners? In a civil society there are rules and laws which we live by for the betterment of all men/women. And over time those rules and laws change as our society matures. Racism is like any other problem that must be addressed and it can't be addressed by ignoring it.
→ Certainly Bonds
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 00:58 ET by Cool ArrowThat's why I refuse to show approval for your brand of racism.
It's the most oppressive form of racism since your party went from overt racism to cultural poisoning.
That "freedom" you're hocking has done nothing but dissolve family fabric for 45 years.
You've accomplished way too much of what you believe in.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
What is my brand of racism?
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 01:12 ET by Barry BondsWhat is my brand of racism? Do you even know the definition of the word?
I guess the Right Wing family fabric is just as strong as ever - and getting stronger every day.
→ Answered
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 01:37 ET by Cool ArrowCondescending apologetics.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
EVERYONE
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 01:17 ET by MrShyNotice this thread is now totally strung out and bogged down in this word:
race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race
And who's bogging it down and debating it tooth and nail and obsessing and hogging it? A liberal.
of course, shy
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 01:20 ET by candanceThat's because an overwhelming portion of the liberals on this thread are obsessed with race.
candance
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 01:25 ET by MrShyHere's what an idiot friend (don't really know him, actually) at facebook put as his status the other day (he's black, btw):
"Wonders what would happen if Republican puppet and Uncle Tom Michael Steele got locked out of his cabin."
Wonderful.
And the frame rate is only on the animation, not the filming. I did all of "Crossed" at 30, but boo-boo'ed on this one.
I'm sure it was a compliment
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 01:30 ET by candanceyou just have to put things in the right context.
→ Yes
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 01:27 ET by Cool ArrowObsessed with blaming their ill-begotten experiment on conservatism.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
You mean "one" is an "overwhelming portion of liberals"?
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 01:30 ET by JerThere is only one liberal on this thread who has even raised the issue of race: BarryBonds
Jer
it's all a matter of context, isn't it?
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 01:33 ET by candanceOverwhelming portion can be taken to mean anything. And hey, Kanye West was rude to Taylor Swift, so all of his fans are anti-white jerks.
Maybe so...but in what
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 01:37 ET by JerMaybe so...but in what context does "overwhelming portion of liberals" mean one?
Jer
Sorry but George Will
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 09:33 ET by Barry BondsSorry but George Will brought up the issue of racism.
Barry
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 14:55 ET by MrShyMr. 'Roids, I knew you'd come back with a dumb dumb like this response. I specifically wrote:
Notice this thread is now totally strung out and bogged down in this word: race race race.... etc.. And who's bogging it down and debating it tooth and nail and obsessing and hogging it? A liberal.
Yes, the thread's subject focuses on race/racism, but we post roughly 15 threads a day, averaging 20-30-40 responses. This one has quickly ballooned to 160 in less than 24 hours -- and counting -- practically all thanks to you.
Why? Because race "matters" so much to you. Translated? You are constantly 20/20 with color. A majority -- and a vast one at that -- of conservatives are really, truly color BLIND, and/or work hard to be. THAT is called working toward a post-racial world in what is almost 2010.
Why not pull yourself out of the Dem rut you're in and join us, Barry?
First of all, ding bat, I
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 15:51 ET by Barry BondsFirst of all, ding bat, I wasn't responding to you.
Secondly, the reason why the posts are so few is because you guys are use to a circle jerk and of course after a while even that gets boring.
I don't even have to mention race in order to get your guys smoldering. All I have to do is challenge your position and you will slowly begin to lose your mind. I don't have to mention race because that isn't the issue of either one of the posts in question.
The fact of the matter is the Right continues to turn a blind eye to the truth and I am here to help you get away from that practice.
Over time you will realize that even if the issue isn't about race the Right is going to be wrong and I will be hear to remind you of it.
Yes, like most people, blacks are obsessed with race. White try to convince others that they are above it but you won't find a statistic that isn't divided among race. You won't find any report of negative connotation that doesn't mention race. You won't find anything in the white world that doesn't divide people along race, gender and age the three greatest divider among people.
Picture this, the majority is blaming the minority for all of their problems. And then the majority act as if they have NO influence on the problems of the minority. No where else in nature is this dichotomy played out except in the minds of white people.
Barry "Steriod" Bonds
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 16:01 ET by FeynmanFanFirst of all, I want to complement you on your incredible superiority complex. I don't know how you can make it through the day with all us mere mortals cluttering up your path. It's very noble (and condescending) for you to lower yourself to help us. I'd mention how much we appreciate it, but we don't.
With regards to the obsession with statistics about race, I believe that all began with the equal opportunity movement. Everyone had to be counted and divided up by race, sex, sexual orientation, age, favorite food, mean altitude above sea level and anything else that could be used to identify how many of what kind of people were getting what.
I don't think it's a white thing at all, and you owe everyone an apology for making such a racist statement. Even you should have realized as soon as you wrote it that saying "except in the minds of white people" is a racist comment.
Try practicing what you preach there, cowgirl.
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
Blah, blah, blah, blah....
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 17:01 ET by Barry BondsWho cares about the origin? Does that change the fact that the practice is destructive?
It's not a white thing than whos thing is it? Did blacks make up that law? Mexicans? Jews?
Whites invented the rodeo. Is that a racist statement? It must be because I mentioned the white race in a sentence.
You obviously don't know what the word means so why don't you go and pick up a dictionary and do a little studying and then maybe you will be enlightened.
Barry
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 17:03 ET by FeynmanFanHypocrite.
"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error. To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson
FF
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 17:19 ET by BlondeI see you've uncovered an ugly customer. Sheesh.
We need a better class of troll, here. ©
I hope he fails, too.
Barry the BS Artist
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 16:28 ET by MrShyHe continues to obsess about race -- and class warfare, skin color, the divisions in our culture, yada -- all the while laughably turning the accusatory finger at us and hoping for the best...
He opens with:
I don't have to mention race because that isn't the issue of either one of the posts in question.
Then, he's compelled to kick-in with a lengthy and righteous lecture on the topic:
The fact of the matter is the Right continues to turn a blind eye to the truth [ ??? ] and I am here to help you get away from that practice.
Over time you will realize that even if the issue isn't about race the Right is going to be wrong and I will be hear to remind you of it.
Yes, like most people, blacks are obsessed with race. White try to convince others that they are above it but you won't find a statistic that isn't divided among race. You won't find any report of negative connotation that doesn't mention race. You won't find anything in the white world that doesn't divide people along race, gender and age the three greatest divider among people.
Picture this, the majority is blaming the minority for all of their problems. And then the majority act as if they have NO influence on the problems of the minority. No where else in nature is this dichotomy played out except in the minds of white people.
It was neither rude nor
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 01:25 ET by JerIt was neither rude nor racist for Limbaugh to quote the LA Times. But it was myopic and insensitive to bootstrap a literary device [which had existed for many decades] into a license granting Rush the self-bestowed privilege of relentless exploitation ad nauseum.
The historical term Ehrenstein addressed, but didn't invent, was "Magic Negro"--not "Magic African-American", nor "Magic Black". But Rush was too busy making an adolescent joke of the issue to take the time for serious research into its cultural and literary roots.
Jer
Whining about Rush
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 08:04 ET by Sergeant ROCKBut Rush was too busy making an adolescent joke of the
issue to take the time for serious research into its cultural and
literary roots.
Ha! Ha! Ha! That isn't Rush's job, doofuss. If you want to hear about the cultural significance of magic negroes, tune in to NPR and save your whining! Geez!
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Not a whine
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 15:52 ET by Jer...just a suggested use for that portion of his brain Rush keeps tied behind his back. Or perhaps someone on his staff could spare a few minutes for a little research. They may not know where NPR is on the dial, but I assume they can google.
Jer
Cheese?
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 23:57 ET by Dan The Man 2Cheese with that whine?
Nice try, Jerry
Wed, 09/23/2009 - 20:24 ET by Sergeant ROCKBut again, if you want to get the inside scoop on magic negroes, tune in to NPR - you're paying for it. That's not Rush's job.
"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
One BB strong point
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 05:16 ET by Vivaldi5And may I say, on behalf of the forum, that you're doing a wonderful job of jumbling (not so much of defending the indefensible!).
And I think you're a
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 04:48 ET by Jack BauerAnd I think you're a divisive libelous Racer.
A McCarthyite creep adopting McCarthyite tactics in a very McCarthyite way.
Crawl back into ther sewer please. We'll all feel so much better not being subjected to your race obsession.
Will someone PLEASE get Mr. Reich a
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 14:19 ET by WhoIsJohnGaltphone book to sit on? The camera can't see him. What? Two already?
Nevermind.
Witch Hunt? Strange Brew?
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 14:24 ET by Barker"And you don’t have to know the motives of someone’s heart to understand
when you see signs, incendiary signs that basically compares him to a
witch doctor, an African heathen. We know racism; we don’t have to be
told or taught that." ~ Donna Brazile
Motives? Someone's heart? How do we know those signs weren't produced by the DNC? Donna knows her racism though, doesn't she?
I hereby demand that Donna Brazile apologize to all Americans, all Africans, to witch doctors worldwide, and heathens everywhere.
Whose scared now?
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 14:27 ET by acumenGiven what Will stated at the beginning of this segment, why didn't Stephanopoulos ask Brazile and Reich to offer evidence that any of the current anti-government sentiment in the country is caused by racism?
Because it was much more important that Shephanopoulos portray himself (and ABC) as in the center, above the fray, while providing an opportunity to cast FOX in the same category as the deranged tingling served up on MSLSD. IE - "...I was struck this week -- I spent an evening flipping between Fox News and MSNBC. And it’s like you were living in parallel universes."
As far as Reich's lame comment; "...right-wing talk radio people who are whipping it up....This is what happens in this country when people are scared." It's not listeners to talk radio that are scared. On the contrary, the sleeping giant has grown weary of being poked in his sleep, has awoken and pissed. The "people" have already taken their hit...now it is the liberal politicians and the establishment media types whose jobs are currently in jeopardy and running scared. If not why hasn't the Dem controlled Congress passed healthcare yet? Why is FOX on top in the ratings while more and more liberal media outlets are struggling to survive? And why are both resorting to playing the race card whenever someone disagrees with President Underdabus? Whose scared now Reich?
Even The Elephant Man Would Be Racist
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 14:39 ET by Blue Collar ToddI argued something similar by implying that Liberals would even have the nerve to call the Elephant Man a racist if he opposed ObamaCare. Putting aside the fact that Liberals would have argued for his abortion before birth or for him to be euthanized after birth.
MY GOD - WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO PEGGY NOONAN'S BRAIN?
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 14:39 ET by SgthulkaThat was the most beffudled, milquetoast commentary I have ever heard.
What a shame. She used to be one of the north-stars of conservative opinion.
Peggy Noonan
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 15:39 ET by GothampcI agree. Lately I've been wondering if she is just a one-trick pony. Surrounded by Reagan conservatives, she is highly functional. But when her Reagan friends began to die or move in other circles, she seems off track.
Carter proves the point!
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 14:43 ET by WoodoggieIt seems to me Dick Morris was right when he said; Carter actually proves that racisim is not involved in the arguments against PBO. The conservatives in America dislike and are/were as adamantly and vocally against Carter and his failed policies as much as PBO!
All I ask of living is to have no chains on me.
Blood, Sweat, and Tears
The last 8 years
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 14:57 ET by CobraMan"The politics of resentment is something we’ve seen before in this country."
Yea, like for the last 8 years. Anyone remember "selected, not elected?" Tell me that's not resentment politics in action. Go ahead, I dare ya!
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
BTW, here's a perfect example
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 15:10 ET by CobraManBTW, here's a perfect example of resemntment politics in action:
"Florida showed me that it is no time to grow weary. Instead, this election showed us that despite all we have done to widen democracy's embrace, we have taken too much for granted. We assumed that everyone had equal and fair access to the polls; that every neighborhood was equipped with machines that could accurately count ballots cast; that every American knew how to exercise their right to vote. We assumed too much."
Can anyone tell me who said that? That's right, Donna Brazile!
First she claims mastery of election fraud detection, now she claims mastery of racism detection. Donna, you're ether a genius or a career opportunist. I don't think you're a genius, so....
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
The viewer-deprived
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 15:02 ET by StarAZThe viewer-deprived channels may wish to continue to play "who can shut down whom faster," but I am bored with it--and bored with saying I am bored with it. A bunch of so-called white people (and who of us is 100% this anymore) voted for this president--and now they discovered he is a brilliant leader except for being--ack--African-American? They just noticed? Gosh--he brought it up a ton of times. This is all stupid.
I had to watch this thing again..,
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 15:27 ET by BKeyserReich and Brazile present the most disingenuous arguments I have ever witnessed. Line 'em up. One right after the other.
Reich on health care: (paraphrasing) Look, the CBO says the bill is deficit neutral with all of the cuts forthcoming in MediCare and will reduce the deficit over time. And the predicting the economic effect of spending bills is impossible. But, in this case, they're right. No, of course Congress won't actually cut MediCare, but they will hold spending at current levels.- Seems to me the $500B in MediCare cuts that make this bill deficit neutral- that won't actually happen, make this bill $500B in the red.
Brazile on racism: (paraphrasing) Sure, there's racism. It's not overwhelming; it's just on the fringe, but something has to be done about it, and the President needs to leave this issue alone. He doesn't have the time for beer summits every time this issue comes up. - Seems to me there will always be some racism, on the fringe, and not only coming from whites toward blacks. Seems to me that two of the most prominent factions of the democratic party, blacks and Jews, have been race-baiting each other for decades. And wasn't Barry himself who injected himself in the race aspect of the Skippy arrest? And wasn't it the President himself who thought that having a beer with the professor and cop would end the issue?
Even Gilespi (sp?) made the claim that the Hitler comparisons were coming from the fringe right when in fact, we all know that it's LaRouchers, from the extreme left, that are propagating this depiction.
Liberals count on stupid!
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 15:57 ET by jefflebowskiI wrote about this on my blog a few weeks ago. Liberals count on stupid! They have no substantive argument. That is why they rely on name-calling. The greatest weapon they have is the race card. But it's a weapon only as long as we allow it to be. Anymore, a racist is defined as a white person who disagrees with a liberal. Somehow it will always come back to mean old white people hating black people!
If they call me a racist, so be it. I call them communists! Whether they are or not, I will keep referring to liberals as communists! That is using the page from their playbook.
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CNN News Flash:
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 17:31 ET by InfidelphiaMichael Jackson is still dead.
don't like it
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 17:33 ET by candanceWe need to stop conceding the premise that McCarthy was on an arbitrary witch hunt.
I think we need more of McCarthy's ideas put into practice, particularly blacklisting known criminals and terrorists from having any serious influence. Don't let Van Jones bounce from one cushy lobbying job to another. Don't let unrepentant terrorists work as tenured professors in universities.
McCarthyism had nothing to do with randomly calling people names in the absence of proof.
I have gained a lot more
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 17:43 ET by RR GOPI have gained a lot more respect for Senator McCarthy over the years, I'd say, starting back in the '80s. I'm one of these people who have been sneered at for decades for even using the word "communist", and it still continues. Communists simply don't exist in America as far as most people are concerned.
Political issues rarely come up in this country because we have put our political power in the hands of others as is the case with any Republic. We've also been brainwashed into accepting Leftist values in school, college and in all facets of the media. ALL of us to some extent have been brainwashed. ALL of us believe things to be true simply because we believe them to be true.
Think of the most sacrosanct beliefs you have concerning history over the last 200 years and explore them. Some of you may know what I mean and it is quite liberating to start to see things as they might actually be rather than what we simply choose to be true because it's safe, convenient and keeps us from being picked on at the playground.
We focus inward rather than outward. Obama knows that. But he wants us to focus outward looking through Socialist/Leftist glasses. We've lost the ability to discuss political issues because we as Americans are simply always right and any belief we have we treat as if we were born thinking that way...little room for discussion on what we think is the Truth.
Our castles have become our prisons.
So, the Marxists have exploited those weaknesses. The weaknesses are our belief that we are rugged individualists and that we don't need anyone else, don't want to get involved, that we think we know what's going on (or worse, don't really care), we're rude to one another, we're too afraid to look a stranger in the eye and say "hello" with a smile, we're too proud to pick up after other people, we're too afraid to collectively tell someone in public that their behavior is unacceptable, we think that juvenile deliquency is just part of growing up (because after all, we were all kids once), we think that ignorance, debauchery, drunkeness, and generally raising Hell is cute, enduring, and somehow innately American.
We blame teachers unions for the laziness, ignorance and insolence of much of our youth...we blame the French for our failures in foreign policy...we blame the Chinese for making the stuff we buy at Wal-Mart.
However, it is encouraging to see many people catching on and paying more attention, reading more, researching more, organizing, protesting, discussing issues. Win or lose, Obama has indeed transformed America...let's just hope that it's the same America that our ancestors dreamed of and not the dream of the disgruntled, arrogant intelligentsia.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
Donna Brazile preaching about racism is like...
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 17:53 ET by Tailgunner...Hitler on anti-Semitism.
Remember her comment during the '00 presidential campaign, 'Let's not let the 'white boys' win'?
Those are her words. Media Matters has tried to spin them but they can't deny them.
Again. What right do the Democrats have to tell anyone about race when their most senior Senator, Robert K Byrd, IS a KU KLUX KLAN LEADER AND RECRUITER?
Nationalized Healthcare is a DEATH SENTENCE.
Democrats are the party of killers, racists, pedophiles, bribe takers, serial sexual harassers, liars, perjurers, obstructors of justice and treasonous frauds.
Peggy Noonan
Sun, 09/20/2009 - 18:06 ET by shades2I think Peggy's afraid she won't be asked back if she doesn't softball her responses. By the way Ms. Cheney probably will never be asked back, way too smart for this crowd.
Dobbs is commenting about
Mon, 09/21/2009 - 15:27 ET by bigtimerDobbs is commenting about this now regarding Will and his comments...he is laying into msnbc, Matthews now for keeping this stirred up as much as possible, it is delicious so far, Matthews using the slogan "I want my Country Back" as somehow racist...
Kathleen Parker, David Brookes, don't agree this is racist at all, so now he goes to Helene Cooper who does agree with Chrissy of course...boy, talk about being desperate.
'Go Green...Recycle Congress'
Is Jerry Brown racist then?
Tue, 09/22/2009 - 07:49 ET by UnsaneMatthews using the slogan "I want my Country Back" as somehow racist... I wonder...does that make Jerry Brown racist? He was the first person I remember who used something similar as a campaign slogan ("Take your country back!") when he ran for President in 1992, pursuing the Dem nomination.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)