Chris Wallace: Obama Administration Biggest Bunch of Crybabies

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"These guys [the Obama administration], everything is personal...They are the biggest bunch of crybabies I have dealt with in my 30 years in Washington."

So amazingly said Fox News's Chris Wallace Friday evening.

Appearing on "The O'Reilly Factor," Wallace was rather outspoken about the relationship the Obama administration have with media, and their utter contempt for Fox News (video embedded below the fold):

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BILL O'REILLY, HOST: Now for the top story tonight. Even though we tried to be fair to the president, he doesn't seem to like us very much. On Sunday, he's doing all the chat shows, except for FOX News Sunday, starring Chris Wallace, who joins us now.

He just doesn't like you.

CHRIS WALLACE, "FOX NEWS SUNDAY" HOST: No, he doesn't like you, too.

(LAUGHTER)

O'REILLY: Look, big mistake. But it's so blatant that you would think that the Obama administration. Why do they want, and I've asked this question to a number of people, not you, why do they want to fight with FOX News? Why do they want that?

WALLACE: Well, I can understand the fight with some people on FOX News. I mean, obviously, Glenn Beck has a point of view. And you know, I think from their point of view is constantly beating on him. I think they feel that way about Sean Hannity. But you've just sat there and separated yourself from a lot of conservative critics and said, you know, I'm not sure about the missile defense. I'm not saying that's exactly my position. I think that "FOX News Sunday" is a truly fair and balanced show.

O'REILLY: You're not an ideological show at all.

WALLACE: No. And it's like they refuse to take yes for an answer. There's kind of childishness or pettiness about it.

O'REILLY: That's -- it's an immaturity that if you don't - if you don't toe our line, we're just going to ice you. But here's the deal. And I want your opinion on this. You worked for ABC News for how long?

WALLACE: 11 years.

O'REILLY: Okay. And your father for.

WALLACE: (INAUDIBLE) before that.

O'REILLY: .Mike Wallace, CBS guy. You're rooted there in the network news. It's over. The power shift in the media is now with FOX, FOX News and talk radio. And the Obama administration doesn't seem to understand that. They can go on these shows, CNN, but it doesn't matter anymore. We matter, because the people that need to be persuaded are watching us. The Independents who make the calls.

WALLACE: Absolutely. And the fact that they would go and self- consciously do CBS and ABC and NBC and CNN and Univision, I mean, you know, I'm not in any way denigrating Univision, but it is not on the regular roster of Sunday talk shows, frankly I think elevates us. It is -- when I covered - real quickly, when I covered Ronald Reagan for NBC in the `80s, you know, some days you do a good piece, a positive piece about it. Sometimes do you a tough piece. And you'd come in the next day. And they always treated you professionally. And I think it came from the top down, from the old man. Reagan who felt, you know, I'm going to get a good review today and bad review tomorrow.

O'REILLY: Right.

WALLACE: And it's nothing personal.

O'REILLY: Right.

WALLACE: These guys, everything is personal. I got to tell you though.

O'REILLY: Everything.

WALLACE: They are the biggest bunch of crybabies I have dealt with in my 30 years in Washington.

O'REILLY: And I can't.

WALLACE: They constantly are on the phone, or emailing me complaining, well, you had this guest.

O'REILLY: Right.

WALLACE: Or you did this thing. I mean, they are working the umps all the time. I think it works for the others. It doesn't work with me.

O'REILLY: Well, but it's not working for them. It's not working for them. I mean, all the polls show that Barack Obama's health care proposal is going down the drain. His popularity is declining. It's not working for them. Their strategy of if you don't tow our line, we're not going to talk to you, is a disaster. It's a PR disaster. And people are starting to get angry about it, wrong? Right?

WALLACE: Well, no, I think that's right. And I think.

O'REILLY: It's a disaster.

WALLACE: .when you have David Axelrod go on "Face the Nation" last Sunday and denigrate the million or, I don't know, 100,000 -- thousands and tens of thousands of people who came here into the streets of Washington to protest.

O'REILLY: 70,000, right.

WALLACE: .and basically says, you know, they're not representative. Well, they are representative of those 70,000.

O'REILLY: Sure.

WALLACE: I think they're representative of a lot of people. And to dismiss that, this from the president who said he wanted to reach out to all Americans?

O'REILLY: Axelrod did come on "The Factor" after the president's speech.

WALLACE: A watched speech.

O'REILLY: Yeah. And that was a smart move for him. And he was treated respectfully. He was treated -- I gave him a little jazz because that thing last five hours, the speech. I mean, it was like a Jerry Lewis telethon out there. All right, now you have the ACORN lady, Lewis.

WALLACE: Yeah. Can you imagine Barack Obama won't talk to us, but Bertha Lewis, the head of ACORN is going to give us an exclusive interview?

O'REILLY: She talked to me last May. I had her on. And we had a very good conversation by the way.

WALLACE: She's a nice, smart lady.

O'REILLY: But I'll tell you exactly what she's going to do. She's going to play the victim card that ACORN's the victim of racism and this and that. How are you going to handle that?

WALLACE: Well, you know, you got these videotapes. And you know, so what do you believe.

O'REILLY: But she didn't do it. She's going to say, look, I can't police 10,000 people.

WALLACE: (INAUDIBLE) after the Rathkes were thrown out, she was put in charge to police that organization. Where is the policing? You know, I mean, it just is a succession of transgressions one after another. And we're also going to have on with her Darrell Issa, the congressman from California who is in a big investigation. Look, I'm going to give her chance to have her say.

O'REILLY: Absolutely.

WALLACE: Just as you do. And I'm going to - we'll hear what.

O'REILLY: And she's smart.

WALLACE: .Congressman Isa has to say. And people can make up their minds.

O'REILLY: And Bertha Lewis is smart to go on.

WALLACE: And to go on FOX News.

O'REILLY: Right, because we'll pick the clips up from you. And I`ll run them on Monday, probably. You see that's the Obama.

WALLACE: I hope you will.

O'REILLY: The Obama people don't get it, that if we're winning 5 to 1, which is what FOX News dominance is now, and we beat them so badly CNN and MSNBC, that when you do something, it's all over the place. So, get your message out.

WALLACE: I think we need to say what Jerry Maguire said. Help us help you.

O'REILLY: That's right. Help FOX News help you, Obama administration. Oh, man. Chris Wallace, everybody. Check him out on Sunday morning.

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Enjoyable exchange

This was good reading.  Mild-mannered Wallace calling out the crybabies.  

This is the second time I've heard him say that.

I think the first time was somewhere either shortly before or after the Inauguration. It was an offhand comment at the time. Now he is definitely calling them out. Wallace has made the decision that any pretense of mutual respect and co-operation is off the table until the White House makes the next move.

Bandwagon

Obviously, if you are not on the Bandwagon, you do not exist.

Well

Kudos for putting this up.They are a bunch of whiney potting little babies.Gibbs reminds me of cranky baby.Axelrod is a crying little witch.A bunch of silver spoons includeing the Messiah.He acts like a spoiled little child.His cheap shots and lies against his opponents during the HC debate were typical of his time in office.

I watched this last night and was so proud of Chris..

He is taking off the gloves and calling them out. If this is the way this administration wants to play I think Chris is more than willing to play it their way. He goes out of his way to be fair and this is the payback he gets. I think he may be done holding back.

 

"Live for yourself...there's no one else more worth living for.
Begging hands and bleeding hearts will only cry out for more"- Rush--Anthem

Chris Wallace

made me proud :)  BOR can shut it. 

____________________________________________ 
The Emperor, he has no clothes

Crybabies indeed

This administration needs to stock up on 'Pampers' and pacifiers. They're all a bunch of thumb-suckers!

Wallace is a class act.

"What a revoltin' development this is!"

Chester Riley

DON'T WATCH

I saw Wallace call them cry babies and was surprised because Wallace has always been so professional and balanced in his tone.

But what Obama is doing by boycotting FoxNews is deplorable and it is an effort by Obama to control the media like buddy Hugo Chavez does.

I urge everyone to boycott Obama and not watch any of his interviews tomorrow or Monday. Numbers count and low viewership is damaging to the networks for their revenue and it would send a message to Obama and his press babies.

 

Obama's people know Wallace

Obama's people know Wallace could easily destroy the mirage they've created for Obama. The styrofoam columns would come tumbling down.

They also know, as we do, that Obama is a compulsive liar, and is likely to say anything to make himself look good. Then they'd be spending another week "explaining" what O REALLY meant to say.

 

No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.

PS, celator - BEWARE!- II

(contd from PS-BEWARE! above)

Your signature line is so true.  In preparing ourselves for next years elections, it seems we may need to look deeper at what is going on.  This is not a conspiracy as such, but it appears to be a concerted attack on Constitutional Government and Individual Freedom and Liberty, which is being financed by almost unlimited amounts of money.

Chris Wallace did what he needed to do to expose this illusion, but right now, Fox is a voice crying in the TV wilderness, albeit an effective and the most successful voice.  The tactic seems to be for the executive branch:  Illusions are expendable, destroy one, mount another, all the while building the framework for a permanent power base in directions where no one is looking.

The point is, there is more trickery and misdirection going on than most people can realize, and many more people need to wake up to that reality, before we all wake and find ourselves in a reality with a built-in downward spiral, as your signature warns against.

There is NO scientific evidence for "anthropogenic" Global Warming.  NONE.

Out the Truth.  Guaranteed to short-circuit liberal brain waves.

Yep, so funny Celator

"explaining" what O REALLY meant to say. 

 Along with the teleprompter it seems Obama also need a translator, for english!

 My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Bravo Chris Wallace

This illegal administration is a bunch of cowards . . let them keep avoiding FOX. I love it! They know they'd be made to look like the fools they are . .unless interviewed by Juan Williams or Geraldo Rivera two Socialists in sheeps clothing at FOX.

 

 

Isaiah 5:20a Woe unto them who call evil good, and good evil. . .  KJV

Bertha Lewis

Why would anyone who cares actually take the time to watch Obama? It will be softball heaven with the usual spin.

I'd bet that the interview w/Bertha Lewis, ACORN CEO, will score big on FOX. You never know what she'll say! Lawsuit......Total BS......Entrapment.......Get a dictionary or at least a lawyer........Should be fun!

Here's what Bertha Lewis is

Here's what Bertha Lewis is going to say:

ACORN is the most effective organization ever in helping poor people. What you saw was a few bad apples. They exist everywhere. No one bothered to film the tens of thousands of good people.

ACORN is going to learn from their mistakes, re-train, and make the organization more effective than ever.

It doesn't matter that Congress cut off funds. ACORN gets most of their funds from donations, and donations have been pouring in  at record rates since the far right has been trying to destroy them.

The far right has been trying to bring ACORN down for years because they are racists. They will fail, and the backlash against the republicans will be enormous.

I'm just saying. They are going to paint themselves as though they were little angels.

___________________________________ 

"Tax the rich" is a basically unstable way of governing - The NYT

ThisnThat

ACORN gets most of their funds from donations, and donations have been pouring in at record rates ..

Yep - the Obama camp gave them $800,000 last year to help get him elected.

(;~/ gary

"Crybabies"...

I love this! I am so glad that Chris Wallace was honest enough to say this. Can you imagine the reaction of the "crybabies" when they heard that? Boy I'll tell you what, if the Obama gang was perturbed at Wallace and Fox News before, I'll bet they're absolutely apoplectic now!  ;) 

"The problem is not that people are taxed too little...the problem is that government spends too much." ~President Ronald Reagan

You don't have to imagine

Just go to the Democrat Underground and search for "Chris Wallace crybabies" and you'll get a pretty good idea.  

PS - BEWARE!

The Obama "Gang" is the proper term.  I too was totally grateful to Chris Wallace for standing firm and telling the truth, and for Bill OR to give him the platform.  However, I also think the truth is that this group is playing for the highest stakes, and the "crybaby" thing is just one tactic among many to keep anyone, with any credence or reputation, off balance.

I would guess that the immediate recognition and calling out of
their bullying and harassment has been quicker on the national stage
than they expected, based on the ease with which they have been able to keep
it under the radar in Chicago politics, but they are not disappointed
with the buzz as a distraction.

There is no Good Will anywhere in that group, and anyone who gives them the slightest bit of credit for that will be sorry.  The '08 election proved that.  (cont'd. at II below)

There is NO scientific evidence for "anthropogenic" Global Warming.  NONE.

Out the Truth.  Guaranteed to short-circuit liberal brain waves.

Helen Thomas' view on the Obama media grip

This seems pertinent, in the moment, as it is another example of how the Obama camp is managing the news.

Helen Thomas. July 1, 2009. Her view that Obama's grip on the media is even greater than that of Richard Nixon:

Nixon didn’t try to do that.  They couldn’t control [the media]. They didn’t try that.  What the hell do they think we are, puppets?  They’re supposed to stay out of our business. They are our public servants.  We pay them.  ...  I’m not saying there has never been managed news before, but this is carried to fare-thee-well--for the town halls, for the press conferences.  It’s blatant. They don’t give a damn if you know it or not. They ought to be hanging their heads in shame.

(;~/ gary

... and, have you heard

... and, have you heard from Helen Thomas since July 1? Neither have I. Hey Helen -- they can do that. They can control you. And no, they won't hang their heads in shame. Because people like you have taught people like them -- there is no shame when it comes to power-grabbing. Helen, you just don't like it when they do it to you.

___________________________________ 

"Tax the rich" is a basically unstable way of governing - The NYT

ThisnThat -- Obama gave her the Kool-Aid (oops.... cake)

shut her right up...

Ready? They share the same birthday! How's your gag reflex? 

(;~> gary 

Looks like O might have lost his appetite?

That's gotta be the most "Get me outta here!" smile I have ever seen! 

"The bureaucracy is growing to meet the needs of the growing bureaucracy"

 

OMG. Do I see nipple? Is

OMG. Do I see nipple? Is Helen not wearing a bra? The terrorists have already won...and I just lost my dinner.

YIKES!

I just hope the term 'tea-bagger'never came up in the conversation.. that could've caused an awkard misunderstanding..

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Kev!

 
How did you even notice that??? I went back and looked (I am so going to hell) and dammint, there it is! I'm going to wash my eyes out with drain-o or something. Blech!! : (

Gary

If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace. -- Tom Paine

Another tingle victim?

I guess Helen gets a tingle up her leg when she sees Obama, too.

 

"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error.  To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson

Yep, there it is, right

Yep, there it is, right there on her lap.

And now I'm going to lose my breakfast...

Kat

ROTFLMAO

 

"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error.  To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson

too good!

OMG... that has to be one of the funniest damn things I've read on here in a long time.  Not since "Jugs and Plugs" have I laughed that much!

Thanks! 

My eyes!

I coulda/shoulda gone my entire lifetime without seeing that. Not fair, guys! I was reading the thread backwards and did not see that coming. Thanks a lot. (((*_*)))

GG

If you think that's bad, imagine what their offspring would look like.

 

"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error.  To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson

FF~

Please, I'm beggin' ya! I'm already stumbling around from the shock of the picture...cannot process...cannot process...cannot process. (#_#) 

Okay, GG

I will show some mercy and not mention string bikinis...

 

"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error.  To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson

And whatever you do, don't

And whatever you do, don't mention Hillary in a thong . . .

Free

Or Barney Frank in a thong.

 

"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error.  To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson

FF!

My eyes...my eeeeeeeeeyes!!!!

GG

Are you telling me you're not going to want to hear that Helen has taken up pole dancing for the exercise?

 

"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error.  To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson

FF...

Okay, now permanent damage has been done!

Poor Helen...the perfect metaphor

Poor Helen...the perfect metaphor for the sagging fortunes of the print media.

Jer

Jer

Do you think the print media's fortunes will go that far south?

"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error.  To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson

FF...

I'm afraid it's a contiuing downward trend, unless quickly propped up with massive government support.

Jer

→ Jer

Internet is the Fosbury Flop that weeded out those who could not adapt.

It's the Digital Watch that the elitist Swiss saw as a fad.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

Cool...

Stop interrupting our useless piffle with astute analogies.  [Okay, metaphors.]

Jer

→ Sorry, Jer

But having invested so much time and energy in paving roads and building cars, we really have no reason to see the horse and buggy as the dominant mode of transportation.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

Jer~

I really, really should not be laughing like this. You guys are a really bad influence on me. ^_^

I would recommend this

I would recommend this solution for Helen--from the Rosie O'Donnell collection.

Jer

Cry-Baby Of The United States

CBOTUS puts his arm around a Harridan Troll.

 

 

 

"President Obama is learning on the job and it shows."  --Boris Epshteyn

→ Helen Thomas

She's not wearing her teeth, is she?

Dem Erotica at its most depraved.

LYDSEXICS UNTIE!

  Here's some leaked

  Here's some leaked footage from tomorrows interviews.....

ROFL

Good one MA!

"What a revoltin' development this is!"

Chester Riley

I can just see Obama with

I can just see Obama with his arms crossed, pouty purple lips, whining: "Fox news doesn't like me, so I don't like them!"

Funny, Kat....

Watch this Alltel ad

Chad is Fox News. The other kids are the other cable news networks.  Chad wants to accomodate a variety of opinions, not just one.  The others (liberals) don't like it.

The curly-haired kid is symbolic of the Obama administration and their attitude toward Fox (Chad) for not playing along with them.

All thay can do is say to Fox News....Well, your'e a ding-dong!!

LOL mb--

That was pretty good...and just like how the Obama administration is acting.

Big Misake....Unless......

One can understand the avoidence of the hard-right, but to put distance from independents, moderate Democrats & Libertarians, folks who watch FOX, well........I'm not gettin' it?

Do they have that much trust in their agenda that they believe their progressive supporters will always save the day?

It's about validation.

Our fledgling President needs to wake up and smell the coffee.  Preaching to the choir isn't going to get him anywhere.  He's gotten all he's going to get from them. 

And the rest of us are watching Fox.

To me, this just proves that he is not about convincing those who disagree with him; he just wants constant adoration and validation of his efforts from those who are already on his side.

 

Heard him say that...also...

Also heard O'Reilly say they email him saying "don't say this, stop sayng that..."

I thought that was

I thought that was interesting, too. Obviously they're trying to control the media. One thing about Bush -- people said all sorts of things about him and it just rolled off his back as far as we know.  He didn't resort to such silly tactics and kept his focus on what he was doing as president.

"Also heard O'Reilly say

"Also heard O'Reilly say they email him saying "don't say this, stop sayng that..."

 Fox ought to do a long story about this sort of stuff, which kind of shocks me.  They actually call Fox and tell them what they can and cannot say, and expect Fox to go along?  And NBC and the other nets, I suppose, just go along when they get the phone calls.   

Yes, the Obama Gang is made

Yes, the Obama Gang is made up of self-absorbed, peevish crybabies. More dangerously, they are also the most brazen grifters we've seen in the WH in a long time. 

No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.

I saw a newshow, I forget

I saw a newshow, I forget which one, discuss the issue.  The Obama rep was talking about getting the message out, but weren't going to Fox.  The comentator basically said, so on Sunday he's going to convince the people who already agree with him, and not deal with Fox and the people who don't agree with him.  How does Obama think this will gain him support?  He's a whiny wimpy little boy.

Bringing Michelle into it doesn't improve this view in my mind.  I miss Laura Bush!

Rad--

Ditto that on Laura Bush. She is a true lady.

La Di Da

Don't think this 5 news show blitz will do much. Of the 5 shows
Meet The Press has the highest ratings and is sviewed by slightly more
than 1% of the country. 1%. So la di da.

The SRM and BO might as well go out for a beer and talk to themselves rather than waste air time with lies.

Off course they are

Off course they are crybaby's.  After all this has been the seal of the DNC since Pres Bush won the election in 2000.

Thank you Mr. Wallace for saying what we have been thinking and shouting all these years.

The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER

About time Chris Wallace calls it like it is!

The Chris Wallace's and Bill O"Reilly's think that just because they treat the White House "Fair and Balance" they will have access to POTUS!   It's only when POTUS needs them that they get the hot (engineered, fully choreographed) interview, as in Bill O'Reilly's interview with BO on the opening day of the Republican National Convention; but maybe that's just too cynical on my part!

It's starting to look more like we're well on our socialize way with a Tinge of Totalitarian Government....   by then BO won't need to do the Sunday Morning Circuit (otherwise known as Circus Show) we'll have one channel to deliver the will of the Government!!  That will be all folks!  

 I often wonder where Tim Russert alive today would he have been the last MSM journalist standing with some dignity and integrity.... 

 

Chris Wallace is awesome

....by far he is the best interviewer out there. He does not care who he pisses off, I saw him make Republicans squirm more than a few occasions. 

He is right, this is probably the biggest crybaby administration I have seen. 

"I swear sometimes the self-appointed moral police are as obnoxious and demanding of big government interference as "environmentalist" gun control advocates, labor unions and trial lawyers"~fitzfong

shawn

Yes he is.He even ticked me off when I first saw him till he did the same to a dem.As long as you are using facts and it is a equal playing ground I am all for it.Just a note.From Kirsten Powers

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaRLK3tTFEM&feature=sub

 

shawn,

LOL-Yeah, if I were a politician, I wouldn't want to be interviewed by Chris Wallace, and it wouldn't matter what letter came behind my name, either.

It certainly doesn't matter to Chris, as I don't think anyone has ever escaped his studio without at least a few grill marks on their behind.

:-)

-Dave

I agree with Rush. It's time for Obama to resign.

Yeah, I Can See That

I can completely believe the members of the Obama Administration are VERY high-strung individuals.  Ready to *SNAP!* at the least little thing.  The lack of self-control Obama exhibits with his never-ending hate-filled facial expressions spells out for us he is prone to temper tantrums when he is denied attention, authority, or presumed control.

But all this bluddy whining at Fox News about Obama skipping Fox News Sunday on his every-channel-in-existence-tour tomorrow is fast becoming nausea-inducing. 

Who cares?  ALL Fox News watchers know what the deal is and why Obama is skipping Fox.  They get it.  They ALL know what Obama's game is and how sloppily he's playing that game.  But, it looks like it's working on the crybabies at Fox.  Good Grief!  Quit with the bluddy whining!  Heavens! 

IGNORE Sunday's dirty tricks by Obama.  Instead, spend your available time wisely.  Do what Beck does.  Investigate something.  You other whiners (at Fox News) are aware that Beck (and his "point of view", Chris Wallace), took down Van Jones, the NEA, and ACORN (with the assist of the courageous film makers and Andrew Breitbart AND the Senate backing him up by defunding the corrupt organization) all within two weeks, right?  You know that? 

Get cracking, Fox News, and INVESTIGATE what Beck is handing you on a bluddy platter!

Do NOT underestimate ODUMBO and his COMMIE FRIENDS ...

... they are RUTHLESS.  They are not crybabies.  The have shown that they KNOW what they are doing.  They have the DAGGERS in our backs and are TWISTING it while LAUGHING at us.  That is who they are.  Just like LENIN/STALIN/MAO/CASTRO/CHAVES - insert name of commie dictator here - SCUMBAGS!

I could not agree more!

We're the fools for having believed their BS!   We rolled the dice!   

Maybe Obama will sneak into Fox

I think its possible Obama will slip into Fox like dignitaries slip into Iraq with no warning.

Politics is showbiz for ugly people

Bunch of crybabies..

... and bedwetters too. lol

Typical liberals..

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

One of these day's

One of these day's Alice.......

Noel... Great minds and all

The MSM, for the most part,

The MSM, for the most part, has been excessively--and irresponsibly--pro Obama; while Fox, for the most part, has been excessively--and irresponsibly--anti Obama.  Consequently, despite the administration's understandable impulse to marginalize and "punish" Fox, this decision is indeed petulant, misguided, divisive, and politically stupid to boot.

Jer

Jer's moral equivalency argument... zzzzz...

Apples and oranges. FNC goes out of it's way to have leftists represented on their various programs. The one thing you leftists always try to do is equate a 'Hannity' or 'O'Reilly Factor' type show (which FNC has several of)  as being the same thing as a nightly news broadcast. Hardly. Another perception is that since FNC covers stories that are not favorable to liberals like Obama when the MSM ignores them is an example of bias. Again, hardly.

To suggest that FNC has the same level of bias as the MSM is simply ignorant. Bonus: I don't recall Brit Hume having a pow-wow with democRATSon how to get better coverage about their agenda in the MSM like Tim Russert did?

Save your apologist rhetoric for the uninformed. That dog won't hunt here.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

scorecard

Sgt Rock: 1

Jer: 0

 

"President Obama is learning on the job and it shows."  --Boris Epshteyn

scorecard [updated]

Jer:  2

Rock and Free Stinker:  zilch

Jer

shockingly, I agree with Free and Sarge

You don't see people from Fox's news room pushing conservative agendas. You can't point to people like Sheppard Smith, Chris Wallace, Brett Baier, and and Brit Hume, and tell me they are biased on air.

Meanwhile hard news anchors on other networks are busy doctoring videos or showing phony paperwork in order to push a certain angle.

And you certainly don't hear Fox anchors using words like "tea bagger" on air. On other networks, that kind of dialogue is acceptable.

We can discuss a comparison between Hannity vs Rachel Maddow, and that would be a fair trade. But not entire networks.

Well, candance...I'm

Well, candance...I'm shocked at your response.  Please reread my original post--you know, the one where I'm explicitly critical of the administration, and tell me what you find objectionable or apologistic?

By the way, I'm a big fan of Chris Wallace.  The only time I have had a serious issue about his tactics was his opening question in the Clinton interview which prompted Clinton's outburst.  Both Clinton and Wallace were unprofessional on that occasion.  Brit is okay, but he has engaged in slanted reporting.  During the week before 9/11, he was obsessed with silly claims about Gary Condit not being identified often enough as a Democrat. 

Your "phony paperwork" reference is obviously a [legitimate] dig at Rather.  Dan is gone.  Now, which news anchors are "busy doctoring videos"?   And which ones have used the word "tea bagger"?--which term, by the way, I believe has been used on Fox.

Jer

Jer~

Seriously, if you were not a fan of Chris Wallace, we would be having our first fight. ;)

GG...

Both Wallace, and his predecessor, Tony Snow [who had a highly partisan background] have been excellent moderators for Fox News Sunday.

Jer

Jer~

Oh, good. No fight. Geez, I just realized it is 1:30 -- lost track of time. I have got to hit the hay. There's some troll running around here who I wanted to smack around a few more times, but that can wait.^_^

 

Night, dude!

Dodge and parry

Don't look now, but old man Jerry is all wrapped around the axle about being called an 'apologist'.

So, your point about comparing apples to apples (Hannity to Madcow) will not be addressed. 

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

I have watched very little

I have watched very little of Maddow.  Based on what I have seen, I don't care for her--an opinion I have posted here on several occasions.  I've been listening to Hannity since he first hosted a local radio talk show in Atlanta many years ago.  [He was opposite Boortz who skewered Sean mercilessly.]  I don't care for Hannity either.

Jer

Final Score

ROCK: 3

Jerry:   0

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Rock forfeits. The game

Rock forfeits.

The game goes in the books as a 9-0 shutout for Jer.  [Winning never grows old.]

Jer

Sorry old man..

.. that's hardly the case.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Well, Sarge, I do

Well, Sarge, I do appreciate your refraining from calling me "shitbag" or some similar personal slur as is your usual habit.  Nevertheless, you have once again demonstrated a fundamental inability to understrand the plain wording of my comments, as well as a continuing, exasperating tendency to attribute various assertions and representations to me which I have neither made nor implied.

1.  "FNC goes out of it's way to have leftists represented on their programs."  Did I say otherwise?  No.  The fact is that most of the MSM political talk shows likewise offer both liberal and conservative opinion.  On MSNBC, Olbermann does not.  Schultz and Maddow may not.  I don't watch them--(nor Olbermann for that matter).  Matthews does.  Morning Joe does.  So does Meet the Press, This Week, The Leher Report, etc.

2.  "The one thing you leftists always try to do is equate "Hannity" or "O'Reilly" type shows as being the same thing as a nightly news broadcast."  Is that so?  Who?  When?  Where?  Certainly not I.

3.  "Another perception is that since FNC covers stories that are not favorable to liberals like Obama when the MSM ignores them is an example of bias."  I can only speak for myself.  I welcome unfavorable stories as long as they are sourced, responsible, and accurate, and not given disproportionate weight and  coverage.  Just one example where Fox graphically displayed an anti-Obama bias was its frenzied but discredited claims of Obama's alleged madrassa schooling as a child. 

4.  "To suggest that FNC has the same level of bias as the MSM is simply ignorant."  Actually, I suggest the qualitative level of Fox's bias is greater than that of the MSM.  But, collectively, the quantity of the MSM's bias exceeds that of Fox.

5.   "I don't recall Brit Hume having a pow-wow with democRATS on how to get better coverage about their agenda in the MSM like Tim Russert did."  I don't either.  I think the pow-wows were left to FNC president Roger Ailes.  But, for the record, what Russert pow-wow are you talking about?  

Finally, with respect to the "apologist" rhetoric in my earlier post, would you kindly point it out for me?  

Jer 

Jerry's Delusional Episodes

Save your sanctimonious claptrap, Jerry. As usual, you think that clever witicisms and bloviating wins the day.

1. The MSM does not go out of their way to have conservatives on their talking head shows. David Gergen, for example, is not a conservative. However, a nice diversion from the subject at hand - talking head shows are not the same thing as a 'news broadcast'.

2. Oh please, Jerry. You know you can be counted in that group. Why don't you just admit it?

3. lol.. Translation: 'Sourced, as defined by me (or any other liberal) - Jerry. Always an out, huh? Since you gave just one of the many examples you have about supposed FNC bias, why don't you start your own website? You exaggerate, lie, embelish, like all liberals do, that's why.

4. BS. You liberals are not only ignorant, but delusional as well. How many networks stand opposite of FNC? You aren't good with math are you?

5. Like I said, ignorant. I'm sure had Ailes had any pow-wows with Republicans behind closed doors about strategies, etc. like Russert did, we'd still be hearing about it for years to come from your beloved leftist MSM. As I recall, Russert met with democRATS about exactly that, some years ago. Do your own research.

When liberal bias is demonstrated again and again and again on this website, here comes old man Jerry to try and marginalize the damage with crafty wordsmithing and moral equivalency arguments.

Please continue to blather on with your adulation for yourself and the MSM. By the numbers, please. 

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

As I recall, Russert met

As I recall, Russert met with democRATS about exactly that, some years ago. Do your own research.

And your recollection is based on exactly...what?  Something you read?...heard?...saw?...dreamed?  It's your memory, your assertion, you back it up.

Jer

Lazy Liberals

Yeah, in a couple more years you'll be pleading ignorance about 'Memo-gate' too. I'll see what I can find for you, old man. 

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Jer

"Actually, I suggest the qualitative level of Fox's bias is greater than that of the MSM.  But, collectively, the quantity of the MSM's bias exceeds that of Fox."

Not including the pundits I dont see the bias.Are you talking about Shep or Bret.That is their newspeople.They do not even come close to any of srm achors.

"I think the pow-wows were left to FNC president Roger Ailes."

You have proof of that or is this speculation?

For being so wrong Pujols should be traded to the Red Sox.For a single A player.

There is no proof

He was just being a smart@ss.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

well99...

Unless the memos have been shredded.

Jer

BTW, you'll have to give up Lester, Beckett, Lowell, Pedroia and your top prospect for Pujols.

Jer

All I have heard is talk.So until there is some proof it is hard to separate the wheat from the chaff.If there was proof then it should be online somewhere.

As far as the trade.He is haveing a mvp year but not worth all them.

well99...

well99...

Ailes' highly partisan background is well-documented.  The memo most point to is one to Bush shortly after 9/11 which Bob Woodward wrote about in one of his books.  Actually, it was primarily advice about the war against Al Qaeda, which I don't find as objectionable as some critics do.  Ailes was also a long-time friend of Rudy Guiliani, and there have been allegations that Fox tilted heavily toward him in the GOP primary.

There have been additonal stories provided by ex-staffers of Fox which paint a pretty damning picture of improper programming and reportorial influence being exerted via memo and otherwise by John Moody, an FNC upper exec--essentially alleging that daily Republican talking points were dispensed.  Of course, such claims are always subject--with good reason--to the "disgruntled employee" defense. 

Jer

Just kidding about the Pujols trade--but only slightly.

Jer

Well I'll do some research in the morning.I curious enough to see what kind of info comes up.As far as Woodward.I have no respect for him.He let John Mitchell off the hook as did the congress for his part in Watergate.I do remember the hearings.I also remember Mitchell doing a cya and slideing for his part.

 

Yes I dont think the front offices of those teams are going to let us make a deal.Should be a interesting playoffs though. 

well99...

Cardinals have succeeded beyond my wildest imagination.  Dodgers and/or Phillies will be very tough.

In AL, looks like Yanks, Sox, Angels again.  Twins about to catch Detroit, but I can't see either knocking off any of the big three.

Later,

Jer

Jer

Hopefully playoffs wont be a bunch of sweeps.It shouldnt be.Should be a good year.Some real good competition.Knock on wood.

Oops, Jer... You Made a Mistake There

When you said:

"Just one example where Fox graphically displayed an anti-Obama bias was its frenzied but discredited claims of Obama's alleged madrassa schooling as a child."

Fox CLAIMED no such thing.  If you did any research or YouTube viewing on the matter, Fox News, actually Fox & Friends was relaying what was reported in some magazine.

Fox News did NOT create the story.  They REPORTED on what was already in print by another agency/source.

They were reporting the NEWS.

Your assignation that Fox CREATED the madrassa story is simply untrue.

Moveon.org and Wikipedia

 Jerry doesn't think that you're smart enough to figure out that he's full of sh*t. That's why he's one of the biggest apologist on here, in my opinion.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Well, gosh BondPlainBond...

Well, gosh BondPlainBond...

Based on your tortured parsing of "claims", I guess we can no longer accuse Dan Rather, Mary Mapes, and CBS of making false claims about Bush's National Guard service.  After all, they were just reporting rumors and allegations and falsified information already in existence.

Of course, in my opinion, a major news organization, like CBS or Fox, has a professional responsibility to clearly establish the authenticity of explosive allegations before peddling them to a national audience. 

Jer 

Sorry Uncle Jer

   They did not just report rumors and allegations and falsified information.

  They created false documents as evidence for the rumors and allegations and falsified information.

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Sorry JWF, my friend...

But you're wrong.

Jer

Where would I be wrong.

 I guess we can no longer accuse Dan Rather, Mary Mapes, and CBS of making false claims about Bush's National Guard service. 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

Hi Jer

I would agree that shows like Hannity and O'Reilly are very much Anti-Obama and make no secret of their bias. However, I would say that their anchors are much less bias than the Gibson, Couric and Williams.

Also I have never seen Wallace. Hannity or O'Reilly as rude to their liberal guest as Chris Mathews. I also am convinced Olbermann is insane with all of this accusations of racists conservatives 

"I swear sometimes the self-appointed moral police are as obnoxious and demanding of big government interference as "environmentalist" gun control advocates, labor unions and trial lawyers"~fitzfong

Shawn

How can you say this.You are a racist.Just kidding.Dont hack my system.One thing O'Reilly seems to big a fan of Obama.At least till the last few nights.On the shield system he said they wouldnt be aimed at Russian.That wasnt thier purpose.It was as you know to be used against Iran uses of long range missiles.He does give Obama alot of slack.

Hey shawn... I can only

Hey shawn...

I can only conclude you haven't watched much of O'Reilly.  There have been some memorable "Shut up!...cut his/her mic off!!!" explosions directed at his liberal guests.

Jer

Shawn

BOR seems to give Obama every benifit of the doubt he can make up, drives me nuts.

Jer, I have been watching BOR for many years, ONCE, I heard him ask to cut someone's mic, and they deserved it. You are greatly exaggerating. 

 

My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful

"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg

Jerry exaggerating??

You are CRAZY!

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

general company...

As you may know, I have stated that my O'Reilly watching has been reduced considerably in recent months, after years of being a steady viewer.  So, if he has been more balanced in his assessment of Obama lately, then good for him.  But, prior to the election, his anti-Obama bias was palpable.  For example, I remember him dispensing political strategy advice for McCain, as well as speculating one night after the market had suffered a particularly rough day that the Dow may have been reacting to the fear of an Obama victory.  It was naked partisanship, pure and simple.

I can recall a couple of mic cutting incidents offhand.  One with mild-mannered Fox contributor Jane "what's her name" who appeared with Bernie Goldberg, and another with Jeremy Glick whose father was killed on 9/11.  [I'll be the first to admit Glick was making some pretty outrageous claims].  Not saying it was a frequent occurrence, but I'm confident there were other similar incidents.

Jer

They keep turning on the Bingo channel at the old folks home

  Poor Uncle Jer. Mean ol' BOR was so mean to Uncle Obama and yet he managed to get elected anyways.

  By the way, the market has been reacting to the most far lefist President ever that wants to squash capitalism so that Uncle Sam the Nanny can take care of us all. The market hit it's lowest last March when it looked like Uncle O would get everything he wanted. Now that Uncle O is stuck in the swamp, we are hitting new highs. And if ObamaCare goes on life support, the moon baby! We will be off to the moon! 

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

How has Fox been

How has Fox been 'anti-Obama' on their journalistic side?  Editorialists do not count, so you can omit Hannity and Beck.  Only Journalists can be included in your discussion.

I will argue that there is a huge difference between Fox and CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS.  These latter networks exhibit no journalism at all.  Their news people are engaged in editorial.  This is what is wrong with them.  They present a 'version' of the truth, which is interesting in of itself, since truth has no versions.  Editorials have versions.   We are left to conclude there is no journalism at the alphabet networks, just editorialism.

Wallace took a risk...

A major congrats to Chris for saying it as it is.  He is part of that media and has to be to get any political guests to show at all but sticking his neck out to tell the world that we elected a bunch of over sensitive, thin skinned, reactionary children is revealing.

Give 'em something to squawk about......

Chris Wallace should interview Larry Sinclair for the full hour.

"We Report. You Decide."

Ha Ha Ha Ha!

Yeah, that'd be funny. Considering that's the show most people would be watching anyway.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

If Chris says it...

you can believe it. He is one of the few true journalists left today. He has it all: highly intelligent, hard-hitting, steady and measured --without all the blustery BS...and he knows what real news is and comes highly prepared. For me, he's as unbiased in his pursuit of the truth as you can get. 

I heard him say this crybaby thing on the air. It's what most of us have sensed/felt, but for Chris to come out and say it in the manner that he did (smiling bewilderment)...well, it was pretty darn amusing.

Poor Obama..

.. can't hang with Chris Wallace. He is weak, even with a teleprompter.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Keep dreaming.

Keep dreaming.

Barry Bonds

That's strike two for you.....ya know?

Put your money where your mouth is

Well, there is but ONE way to prove if it is a dream or not: your God, His Majesty The Shahinshah, gets on Fox News Sunday and faces the music.   

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Nervous but ok..

I first noticed Chris at the Republican convention in 1980 when he breathlessly scooped the story live that the vice-presidential choice of Ronald Reagan.. "it's Bush! It's George Bush!"

Since then, I have put up with his inscrutable haircuts, but have grown to respect him, as he has grown into his role as an arbiter of facts. 

Delete!

Previous comment in this box gone!

I just realized that if I leave my last post on here, I will never hear the end of it. :) So bye-bye -- hopefully nobody saw that! ^_^

Dang!

I missed it. ;^/

Barker...

Thank God! I am hoping and praying that absolutely nobody saw that. Someday I'll reveal it (like on my death bed?), but I am currently more concerned that it stay off the NB boards. I'm not sure if more men or women would tease me on something like this -- but I'm guessing men. So...  ..... ..... ..... ....................................................................          <<<<<<<gotta go.>>>>>>>>

For GA Girl

The only reason guys would tease you for that post is because of all the hell I catch from other people about my prasing female journalists and anchors for attributes other than skill.

For instance, some months ago I was minding my own business at home, visiting my parents, and watching Squawk on the Street.  There was a segment where Erin Burnett was featured interviewing somebody.  My old man blurted out at me "Are you watching this for the news or for her?"  Without hesitation I answered "Both."   

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Erin Burnett isn't called

Erin Burnett isn't called "The Street Sweetie" for nothing.....

Money Honey 2.0

I prefer "Money Honey 2.0" myself.  :-) 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

And I prefer Mrs. Scuba

And I prefer Mrs. Scuba Dude myself.  :-D

The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER

She's solo today. No

She's solo today. No Mark.  And I cannot tell if she is following Hillary today or striking out on her own and wearing a skirt.  :  )

The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER

Unsane delves into piggish behavior

CNBC needs to dispense with the desks.  And their cameramen/women need to figure out how to position the cameras so that viewers like myself can see if the ladies are wearing skirts, and thus can better evaluate their legs. 

(OINK x 1000) 

"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)

Why is it on Power Lunch

Why is it on Power Lunch they have all the anchors sitting on stools in front of the desk but they don't do that on Sqawk on the Street?

C'mon CNBC!!!!  You'll pick up the 18-54 male demographic in no time if you did that!!!

The Obama Administration: THE most fiscally irresponsible Administration EVER

Unsane~your comment, above

That's funny. You are an honest guy. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with your appreciating the news and the nice scenery -- you stay informed and keep up on art appreciation. ^_^ And I can tell I would like your Dad. :)

 

Unsane

because of all the hell I catch from other people about my prasing
female journalists and anchors for attributes other than skill.

Unsane - Did I mention I was once 10 feet away from Maria Bartiromo ?

 

Bwu ha ha ha ha ha ha!

 

It's Okay.  I'm sure you'll meet Governor Palin before I do.  ;-)

Attention Shoppers!

Will someone please photoshop Obama as a crying baby?

And Gibbs, and Axelrod, and Rahm (if that's not asking too much).

I often feel that

I often feel that O'Reilly makes liberal leaning comments to feel bipartisan about himself. He consciously tries to stay "in the middle" which leads him to make silly comments.

Wallace on the other hand is a journalist. He asks tough questions without putting emotion or argumentation behind questions so you never know what he feels. He asks questions like "Joe Blow says that your policy will result in x" or "You say that policy x will do this but the CBO says y" which is why he's a true journalist. He probes for weakness in a candidate/politician's point of view. He doesn't care if the weakness is exposed by coming at them from the right or left. He only cares to get at truth wherever that may lead. He also does one other thing that is wonderful. He shuts down talking points that neither address the question or mean anything at all. He follows up when a politician is elusive or when the politician acts like the interview is a commercial. Too bad there aren't more CWs.

No obama on foxnews

Thank goodness!!!  If the Obama show about ObamaCare was on FoxNews as well as the other MSM Obama-loving TV stations...I would definitely not watch FoxNews.  As it is now, there are way too many video clips of Obama during most of the FoxNews programs.  I really don't need to see Obama walking , grinning, shaking hands, giving speeches (thank goodness the sound is off), getting on and off Air Force One, walking on the WH lawn, and on and on and on....  I wish O'Reilly would stop complaining about Obama not being on FoxNews for an interview.  I am happy about this.  If  I see much more of Obama on FoxNews, I might have to limit my TV veiwing to TCM and the Weather Channel.

Don't worry

You can catch his info-mercial on David Letterman's show.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

Cry baby bullies.. isn't

Cry baby bullies.. isn't that always the way?

The bully is always the first to cry when the victim hits back hard.

Liberal nutjobs shouting 'racist conspiracy' to anyone criticising Barack Obama are all WACKY... RACERS

Why doesn't Wallace do a

Why doesn't Wallace do a mock interview.  Put an empty chair there with a Presidential seal on it.  Ask him:

 

1.  Why he will only go on shows where he has open and active democrats asking him questions, basically cheerleaders;

2.  Ask him if this fulfills his campaign promise to be a uniter and an agent of change and someone who was going to change the politics of destruction;

3.  Ask him important questions and point out why even the group that watches Fox need answers also.

 

TOTUS on FOX

Put a teleprompter in the chair.

"I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason

We are missing a very important point here.

Wallace: They constantly are on the phone, or emailing me complaining...

  That means the Obama Administration is not doing it's job. They are not focused on governing this country. If you are doing your job correctly, you do not need to be worrying about critics. Your accomplishments will speak for you.

Worst President evah!

Sincerely,

a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.

JWF - you're right

The Obama administration is much more worried about style than they are about substance.

 

"Reason and persuasion are the only practical instruments against error.  To make way for these, free inquiry must be indulged" - Thomas Jefferson

              

                  The obama crowd is racist. Why else would they keep harping on the subject? They have moved equality back about a hundred years with their rantings. M.L.K. would not be proud of the country. Everywhere you turn, someone is calling someone a racist. How can we stop racism, when every news channel, every news paper, is calling the citizens racists? The media is trying to start a race war. It's really pitifull, the way they pull the race card.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         

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