Exactly one week after the highly-publicized arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis Gates stirred a national discussion on race relations, legendary singer-songwriter Bob Dylan was detained by police officers in a "low-income, predominantly minority neighborhood" in Long Branch, New Jersey.
Makes one wonder why it took so long for this to get reported, and if news outlets that were convinced Gates's arrest was racially motivated will see the delicious irony in a white rock star being questioned by police just because he was "wandering around the neighborhood."
The Associated Press sure didn't (h/t Clarence Page):
Rock legend Bob Dylan was treated like a complete unknown by police in a New Jersey shore community when a resident called to report someone wandering around the neighborhood.
Dylan was in Long Branch, about a two-hour drive south of New York City, on July 23 as part of a tour with Willie Nelson and John Mellencamp that was to play at a baseball stadium in nearby Lakewood.
A 24-year-old police officer apparently was unaware of who Dylan is and asked him for identification, Long Branch business administrator Howard Woolley said Friday. [...]
The incident began at 5 p.m. when a resident said a man was wandering around a low-income, predominantly minority neighborhood several blocks from the oceanfront looking at houses.
The police officer drove up to Dylan, who was wearing a blue jacket, and asked him his name. According to Woolley, the following exchange ensued:
"What is your name, sir?" the officer asked.
"Bob Dylan," Dylan said.
"OK, what are you doing here?" the officer asked.
"I'm on tour," the singer replied.
A second officer, also in his 20s, responded to assist the first officer. He, too, apparently was unfamiliar with Dylan, Woolley said. [...]
The officers asked Dylan, 68, to accompany them back to the Ocean Place Resort and Spa, where the performers were staying. Once there, tour staff vouched for Dylan.
Here's the money quote:
The officers thanked him for his cooperation.
"He couldn't have been any nicer to them," Woolley added.
In fact, according to ABCNews.com, Dylan was quite gracious:
"He was really nice, though, and he said he understood why I had to verify his identity and why I couldn't let him go," Buble said.
Hmmm. So, Dylan was detained a week after Gates, was cooperative, and the issue was quickly resolved.
And we're hearing about this NOW?
How might this have impacted the Gates-Sgt. James Crowley affair if it had been reported at the time it happened rather than over three weeks after the fact?
None of the news reports I've reviewed concerning the Dylan incident addressed why this matter was buried until now, nor did they mention how it might have related to the Gates-Crowley affair.
I guess when a white rock legend is detained by police for having the nerve to walk around a minority neighborhood, and cooperates fully with the authorities to quickly resolve the misunderstanding, it's not a teachable moment.
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→ Dylan
August 15, 2009 - 11:00 ET by Cool ArrowNow I started out on Burgandy but soon hit the harder stuff
Everybody said they'd stand behind me when the game got rough
But the joke was on me, there was nobody even there to bluff
I'm goin' back to New York City, I do believe I've had enough.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Bong Summit in the offing
August 15, 2009 - 11:05 ET by BKeyserI hear the President is having Dylan and this young police officer over for a bong.
→ I heard that too
August 15, 2009 - 11:09 ET by Cool ArrowBut this time Dylan is bringing his own Union representative - Willie Nelson.
Grace Slick is doing another gig at Yasgur's farm.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Off topic slightly...
August 15, 2009 - 11:09 ET by NeoConfirmedI don't get the Dylan thing. I hear the poet stuff but...I put him in the Tom Petty/Springsteen category. Very accomplished musicians that I just don't get.
~Neo
August 15, 2009 - 11:17 ET by BKeyserTry some shrooms, then listen to "Subterranian Homesick Blues". I've heard that's the only way to relate.
BKeyser
August 15, 2009 - 11:22 ET by NeoConfirmedThanks for the tip. I've tried listening with my pipe but my weed keeps blowin in the wind
Hey BK. Thanks for
August 15, 2009 - 11:59 ET by QueenMumHey BK. Thanks for reminding me of my all-time fave Dylan album. Have the vinyl, tape, and CD versions and still listen to it. IMO, you've got to listen to early Dylan in order to "get" him.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
Bkeyser
August 15, 2009 - 12:02 ET by easygoerAnother good one in that vein is "Desolation Row". My favorite Dylan song.
Now at midnight all the agents
And the superhuman crew
Come out and round up everyone
That knows more than they do
Then they bring them to the factory
Where the heart-attack machine
Is strapped across their shoulders
And then the kerosene
Is brought down from the castles
By insurance men who go
Check to see that nobody is escaping
To desolation row
→ easygoer
August 15, 2009 - 15:19 ET by Cool ArrowYes, I received your letter yesterday
About the time the doorknob broke
When you asked me how I was doing
Was that some kind of joke?
All these people that you mentioned
Yes, I know them, they're quite lame
I had to rearrange their faces
And give them all another name.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Sorry, don't get the Dylan mystique
August 16, 2009 - 02:42 ET by RESTLESS 1His lyrics just seem to be something the brain addled pot smokers all come up with.
But then again, there's a lot I don't get, so...
"This
liberal would be all about socialize -- uh, uh, would be about
basically taking over and the government running all of your companies."-Maxine Waters 2008
Dylan Hype
August 16, 2009 - 03:41 ET by RR GOPI agree-I love '60s music and he is (was) a great songwriter, etc., but I, too, never got what all the fuss was about.
It's like the Beatles...you know, there were thousands of other great bands, songwriters, singers back then believe it or not.
I'm strongly conservative, am an Army veteran and my dad served in Vietnam, but I do love this era as far as the arts go. I just don't like their politics and never felt they should be running the country nor driving our politics-too impractical and immature.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
Beatles v. Everyone
August 16, 2009 - 06:19 ET by MrShyFirst you had me....
I agree-I love '60s music and he is (was) a great songwriter, etc., but I, too, never got what all the fuss was about.
Then you lost me....
It's like the Beatles...you know, there were thousands of other great bands, songwriters, singers back then believe it or not.
Yes, hands down, the 60's were a truly great moment in not just modern day music and the arts but probably in all days. But The Beatles were literally in a stratosphere all their own when you look at their astounding growth and mind-shattering musical output within just a 5-6 year period. They were THE guiding light and influential force of the whole revolution.
Yes, certainly, there were great and influential contemporaries alongside them -- Stones, Beach Boys, Hendrix, Motown, great folk rock, on and on -- all collectively making it a golden age, but there is simply no way to overrate or overhype The Beatles. They deserve, IMO, all the accolades they recieve.
Notice I left out Dylan above. Yeah, I don't get him either. Guy can't sing and maybe came up with a few semi-catchy songs that were short on any real melody. Sorry, Rule #1 for me in music is, um, be able to sing. Then I'll have some desire to hear your lyrics... or in his case, his poetry.
Yes, I'm cruel. Now go check out my music and tear me a new one. :)
RR -- the Beatles were
August 16, 2009 - 06:41 ET by Jack BauerRR -- the Beatles were remarkably unpolitical during the 60s. Sure, they were sort of youthful "anti-establishment" in Britain,
But that was more a product of the rigid British class system of the time, were working class folks knew their place. They smashed right through that.
If you hear TAXMAN, written by Lennon as a response to the socialist government stealing 90% of their income, that guy was no lefty in his heart. Then Yoko happened!
Actually, you are sort of wrong about the thousands of bands you describe. The Beatles changed everything forever in pop music/culture.
That's why they were the first British act to break the US. They went from audiences of 400 a night in thea small sweaty Liverpool club in 1962 to GLOBAL in TWO YEARS.
It had never been done before. And it wasn't chance. They were just that good.
Joe Friday: Just the facts ma'am
August 16, 2009 - 09:14 ET by nwahsGeorge Harrison wrote Taxman- not Lennon :)
I am the mob. Don't tread on me.
Yep, you got me on that. My
August 16, 2009 - 09:20 ET by Jack BauerYep, you got me on that. My error. I knew that in the back of my mind (honest), but forgot because it always sound like John singing to me.
Lennon did help with some of the lyrics apparently.
Doesn't change the main thrust of my post tnat the Beatles as a group were quite apolitical generally considering the times.
Jack & nwahs
August 16, 2009 - 14:29 ET by MrShyNot sure where I heard this, but I've always believed that Lennon (maybe L/M) DID help out on that one, and indeed I can see Lennon's acerbicness (yes, that's my own word :)) in those lyrics.
And yes, Jack, The Beatles really did not preach a lot and rarely got political. I actually believe that they didn't mostly because they were just above that, more than having to do with the repressive British culture. That's yet another component of their incredible greatness. On so many levels, they "got it" just right. Even beyond the four boys, we totally forget about George Martin and the great engineers. It was all a perfect storm.
Yoko might have changed Lennon, yeah, but I just don't see him today as a 68 year-old hippie voicing his opinions and publicly getting behind some libturd Democrat. If he remained left-leaning, I think he'd be pretty quiet about it -- even though he was never quiet about most things. It wouldn't shock me if he went the Jon Voight route, even, and did not succumb to derangement syndromes.
I mean, up to 1980 he never struck me as some dumb lib rock & roller. He (almost) always wrote songs about just humans and human feelings, and that was it. I'm pretty confident (geez, I hope) he would see the amazing hypocrisy these days in the leftist movement, and would understand that he owes his wealth and fame to NON-liberal, more free-market ideology.
Lastly, yes, Jack is spot-on. It was The Beatles and then everyone else. I also hate you for being from Liverpool. Of course, I'm just a stone's throw from Yoko and Sean (and where John was shot), but that doesn't do a lot for me. :p
Its probable
August 16, 2009 - 16:22 ET by nwahsNot sure where I heard this, but I've always believed that Lennon
(maybe L/M) DID help out on that one, and indeed I can see Lennon's
acerbicness (yes, that's my own word :)) in those lyrics.
As a musician, you know much collaboration goes uncredited as songs sometimes evolve in the recording process.
I definitely hear the same lick in Harrison's "Wah Wah" that's in "I've got a feeling" by L/M. Its just faster. But I bet Harrison wrote that lick too.
Check them out:
Wah Wah:
http://www.youtube.c...
I've got a feeling:
http://www.youtube.c...
But this is the proper way to hear Wah Wah
http://www.youtube.c...
I am the mob. Don't tread on me.
Cool Arrow
August 16, 2009 - 07:38 ET by easygoerThe Dead do a nice version of "Desolation Row". They do many Dylan songs well. At least I think so. Of course, I'm a Head. I was there the first time they played "Desolation Row"; Philly Spectrum, 1986. Absolutely floored me. Bobby had the lyrics on a piece of paper taped to his mike stand. Used to get a lot of ribbing for my political views at these shows. All in a friendly manner, though. Good times.
Beatles/Dylan I think
August 16, 2009 - 17:46 ET by RR GOPBeatles/Dylan
I think they were both the result of much hype and brilliant marketing-especially the Beatles. Also, the Beatles as people were just downright interesting I have to admit...it "worked". But on the other hand I always thought of them as pompous and tiring.
As far as igniting the music of the '60s or whatever, that was actually a combination of bands, many from Britain...but not all. I think that because of the dominance of a few bands a lot of the other major genres such as surf guitar, pop, and folk have been buried under the crushing weight of marketing and the constant drone of Muzak. Any "oldies" station plays a hugely disproportionate number of hit songs from the early pre-British invasion '60s music.
It's kind of like saying that the Sex Pistols were the best band of the early punk era. They were important, but there was tons of other great stuff out there.
Just a matter of taste and what moves you. Rock on!
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 86% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory.
→ RR GOP
August 16, 2009 - 18:00 ET by Cool ArrowProbably his biggest influence during the Sixties was Peter, Paul, & Mary's rendition of "Blowin' in the Wind" which became THE Civil Rights anthem. Even the great Sam Cooke envied the masterpiece and answered with ""A change is Gonna Come"
The Turtles did "It Ain't Me, Babe" and The Byrds did "Mr Tambourine Man"
I always saw him as more of a writer than a performer.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
LMAO........
August 15, 2009 - 11:15 ET by d1carterLMAO........
Gee, wonder
August 15, 2009 - 11:55 ET by UpNorthwhat Bob was looking for in that neighborhood? Maybe just a cultural experience? He couldn't send Willie, the red bandana might set off things, like guns. It's so hard trying to figure out what colors to wear to which neighborhood these days.
I've worked two of his and Willie's concerts, the lyrics got more slurred as the nights went on. Kinda sad, actually, I enjoyed some of their music, especially Willie's.
Wow
August 16, 2009 - 12:16 ET by boomerconI'm sure glad I wasn't the arresting officer. I'm 62, a one time Dylan fan, etc., and I swear I would've mistaken him for Kinky Friedman, sometimes candidate for Texas Gov. and occasional Fox News contributor. (where's that cigar...or with Dylan...that BLUNT!?)
Wow! Showing your ID to
August 15, 2009 - 11:05 ET by Free StinkerWow! Showing your ID to the police when they request it?
What a concept!
Police Report
August 15, 2009 - 11:15 ET by BigMike252Showing your ID to the Police is a novel idea.........
I am guessing Bob did not make any Slanderous comments about the Officers Mom.
So, "why was'nt Bob invited to the White House for a Beer"?
LMAO
This is a Teachable Moment,
August 15, 2009 - 11:07 ET by Jack BauerThis is a Teachable Moment, Barack.
Bob Dylan is only a million times more famous than Lewis *Closed" Gates will ever be.
And he never once said "YOU DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE MESSIN' WITH COPPER..."
silly Noel
August 15, 2009 - 11:16 ET by candanceIt's only stupid to interrogate black people.
Stupid is as stupid
August 15, 2009 - 11:21 ET by expatriotStupid is as stupid does.....
People being gracious versus the hate spewing perk deserving race baiters is quite contrasting.
Yes, a teachable moment that will be ignored by the messiah and co.
ChickaBOOMer -- Bob Dylan: Bond on Bond
August 15, 2009 - 11:38 ET by StewartIIIChickaBOOMer -- Bob Dylan: Bond on Bond
http://chickaboomer....
Great Point Noel
August 15, 2009 - 11:59 ET by SkipperMLMWhen I read it this morning, I didn't make the connection. So true. Great journalism!
The cop was Dylan's daughter
August 15, 2009 - 12:03 ET by SickofLibsWant to see something REALLY freaky? Look at the cop above.
Then look at this:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/71/BobDylanBobDylan.jpg
Hey, Sick. That makes a lot
August 15, 2009 - 12:10 ET by QueenMumHey, Sick. That makes a lot of sense. Just a caring daughter making sure her daddy didn't get hurt while he was wandering the streets.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
Walking while white
August 15, 2009 - 12:24 ET by MidAmericaThis is obiously a case of racial profiling.
They've edited the story
August 15, 2009 - 12:36 ET by nwahsIt really went like this:
"What is your name, sir?" the officer asked.
"Bob Dylan," Dylan said.
"OK, what are you doing here?" the officer asked.
"I'm on tour," the singer replied.
"How does it feel?" the officer asked
"How does what feel?" Dylan asked.
"How does it feel?" the officer asked.
"How does what feel? " Dylan asked again.
"To be on your own." the officer replied.
"With no direction home?" asked Dylan.
"Like a complete unknown." said the officer
"Like Kieth Richards" answered Dylan.
"Like a Rolling Stone?" asked the officer
"True dat." answered Bob.
...true .. I sware..
I am the mob. Don't tread on me.
That's good, nwahs
August 15, 2009 - 12:37 ET by BlondeI hope he fails, too.
Ditto, nwahs. "The
August 15, 2009 - 12:46 ET by QueenMumDitto, nwahs.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
:)
August 15, 2009 - 12:55 ET by nwahsThanks :) I think Dylan is probably the person I've seen the most in concert - about 7 times last I counted. His son with the Wallflowers was quite good too.
I am the mob. Don't tread on me.
Willie
August 15, 2009 - 12:42 ET by DingbatIf he was with Willie, there might have been a contact high involved. Toby Keith has a song about I'll Never Smoke Weed With Willie again. See http://www.metacafe....
In all seriousness, it's
August 15, 2009 - 12:42 ET by QueenMumIn all seriousness, it's apples and oranges.
First of all, Dylan was not engaging in what looked like a home invasion by two large men. He's a short, skinny, old white guy wandering around a low-income, minority neighborhood (aka the "hood"). Chances are someone was just looking out for his welfare. (No pun intended.)
I don't think this rises to the level of media bias. Sure he cooperated. No biggie. The majority of innocent people cooperate with the police. The story's really not newsworthy other than it was Bob Dylan.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
No biggie
August 15, 2009 - 13:11 ET by ReaverIn a similar vein if Gates had been polite, provided his ID and cooperated his story would not have been very newsworthy either.
If stupidity got us into this mess,
then why can't it get us out?
--Will Rogers
Perhaps. At least it might
August 15, 2009 - 13:19 ET by QueenMumPerhaps. At least it might have ended up being a local story. But I'm not sure, since we're talking about a Harvard professor and a friend of BHO. And given Gates' inherent arrogance and racial angst, he may well have made an issue of it anyway since the responding officer was white.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
"And given Gates' inherent
August 15, 2009 - 17:25 ET by ckc1227"And given Gates' inherent arrogance and racial angst, he may well have
made an issue of it anyway since the responding officer was white."
Umm....yeah, I think Gates being an ass is kind of the point here.
A scruffy white guy
August 15, 2009 - 12:48 ET by Delsawalking around the wrong part of town maybe looking to score?
Police did their jobs and Dylan did his by cooperating.
Nuff said.
A true American icon
August 15, 2009 - 13:05 ET by general companyVery happy he ran into good folks, Mr Dylan's reaction was never in doubt.
Princess on the steeple and all the pretty people
They're drinkin', thinkin' that they got it made
Exchanging all kinds of precious gifts and things
But you'd better lift your diamond ring, you'd better pawn it babe
You used to be so amused
At Napoleon in rags and the language that he used
Go to him now, he calls you, you can't refuse
When you got nothing, you got nothing to lose
You're invisible now, you got no secrets to conceal. B. Dylan "Rolling Stone"
You can either go to the church of your choice
Or you can go to Brooklyn State Hospital
You'll find God in the church of your choice
You'll find Woody Guthrie in the Brooklyn State Hospital
And though it's only my opinion
I may be right or wrong
You'll find them both
In the Grand Canyon
At sundown
. B. Dylan "Last Thoughts on Woody Guthrie"
Mr Dylan is a great poet who understands life in America
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
You probably won't like
August 15, 2009 - 14:17 ET by Dan DiegoYou probably won't like this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9u5x9pdInTU
Old Folks Home Escapee
August 15, 2009 - 13:23 ET by slickwillie2001When they heard him speak they likely concluded he was just a local drunk, or a senior with a typical ailment that wandered out of the old folks home. That happens a lot.
Most likely
August 15, 2009 - 15:00 ET by doug1950Bob was just trying to get away from that s**t nozzle Mellencamp, wandered off while being "mellow" and in the end appreciated the ride back to the crib. Probably lost as hell but was kool to the end.
Jokers and clowns ...
August 15, 2009 - 15:10 ET by metaphorsbwithuYes indeed ... a teachable moment for sure. Dylan should definitely get an invite to the White House and Congress as well for a pat on the back.
On second thought, I'm sure it'd seem like some awful déjà vu all over again. In fact, I can almost hear him mumbling now:
Clowns to the left of me!
Jokers to the right!
Here I am stuck in the middle with you.
metaphorsbwithu
-
August 15, 2009 - 15:18 ET by merkava"Bob Dylan," Dylan said.
He's lying, officer, it's Robert Allen Zimmerman, heh.
He may be an Obamatron now but once he wrote stuff like this:
http://www.bobdylan....
Well, the neighborhood bully, he's just one man,
His enemies say he's on their land.
They got him outnumbered about a million to one,
He got no place to escape to, no place to run.
He's the neighborhood bully.
The neighborhood bully just lives to survive,
He's criticized and condemned for being alive.
He's not supposed to fight back, he's supposed to have thick skin,
He's supposed to lay down and die when his door is kicked in.
He's the neighborhood bully.
The neighborhood bully been driven out of every land,
He's wandered the earth an exiled man.
Seen his family scattered, his people hounded and torn,
He's always on trial for just being born.
He's the neighborhood bully.
etc.
I recently picked up a book and it covered this period (1983 album: 'Infidels'), an obnoxious interviewer was clearly pissed at the sentiment behind the music, particularly the above song.
Meaning behind neighborhood bully
August 16, 2009 - 13:17 ET by earth56Merkava
I don't know if you do know but those lyrics were written about Israel.
I'll give the media a pass
August 15, 2009 - 17:03 ET by acumenon this one and just consider they were giving ol' Bob shelter from the storm. Hmmm......just like the media does everyday with young Barry.
~Bob Dylan
August 15, 2009 - 17:09 ET by choselife3xIs STILL ALIVE?!?!
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
Yes, cl3x
August 15, 2009 - 17:17 ET by Cool ArrowThree Wilburys are still alive.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
~Oh dear
August 15, 2009 - 17:20 ET by choselife3xI had to search 'Wilburys'. Definitely dating myself....but I only made it to first base, I'm a prude.
Dissent: It's not just for liberals anymore.-kudzupolitics, USA Today
I think it's Orbsion (one
August 15, 2009 - 17:35 ET by bigtimerI think it's Orbsion (one of my favorite singers in the world) is the only one missing other than George Harrison.
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
Yea
August 15, 2009 - 18:00 ET by general companyRoy was great also.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
gc... Thank you...that
August 15, 2009 - 18:08 ET by bigtimergc...
Thank you...that was a nice break for the day...not a song he sang I didn't love.
What a tragic life he had too in many ways.
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
Traveling Wilburys
August 15, 2009 - 19:57 ET by QueenMumHere ya go, bt. The Traveling Wilburys is another one of my favorite albums of all time.Thanks to Cool Arrow for reminding me.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
End of the Line/
August 15, 2009 - 20:04 ET by bigtimerQueen...
Mine as well...and that song still remains my favorite on it, I was so hoping that is where your link went, that made my evening.
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
This is a good video too.
August 15, 2009 - 20:09 ET by QueenMumThis is a good video too. You see a lot more of Dylan on this one.
"Inside Out"
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
Who is playing Drums?
August 15, 2009 - 20:25 ET by general companyWhy is Jim Keltner aka Buster Sidebury not considered a Wilbury, when Harrisons son Dhani aka Aryton Wilbury is, blood I guess? I never did know who played the dang drums, so now I do. : ]
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Interesting QM
August 15, 2009 - 20:10 ET by general companyRoy must of passed when they made this video, because he sure contributes to the song. They were great together, every song they wrote.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
gc, Mum etc... Had to
August 15, 2009 - 20:24 ET by bigtimergc, Mum etc...
Had to throw this in...another of my favorites...
Obama's a Community Agitator, a walking, talking destroyer. ~ Rush Limbaugh
Yep,
August 15, 2009 - 20:42 ET by general companyAnother great one. Roy wrote more songs then most folks relize, His first hit was "You are my Sunshine"
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
I love that song
August 15, 2009 - 20:48 ET by nwahsAll favorite musicians from different periods of my life are in that video. The first time I got interested in Roy Orbison was after watching a disturbing but beautiful flick ( and spectacular sound track) call "Blue Velvet" directed by David Lynch.
Heres the scene. Thats Dean Stockwell I think..
http://www.youtube.c...
I am the mob. Don't tread on me.
Awesome Movie
August 15, 2009 - 21:00 ET by Kingfish17And "In Dreams" is probably my favorite Orbison song.
"I've sentenced boys younger then you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it, but I felt I owed it to them." Judge Smails
I posted a few links
August 15, 2009 - 21:30 ET by nwahsI posted a few links to "In Dreams" on YouTube in the forum thread.
There's the original, a live version, and the link from the movie I posted here.
http://newsbusters.o...
I am the mob. Don't tread on me.
One thing puzzles me
August 15, 2009 - 17:30 ET by ckc1227One thing puzzles me though...when did it become a crime to walk through a neighborhood?
What crime?
August 15, 2009 - 17:45 ET by Kingfish17I guess I missed the part of this story where Dylan was accused of committing a crime. Please elucidate.
"I've sentenced boys younger then you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it, but I felt I owed it to them." Judge Smails
He wasn't. Not really my
August 15, 2009 - 18:09 ET by ckc1227He wasn't. Not really my point. He was questioned and asked for id for walking through a neighborhood. Since when is simply walking through a neighborhood legitimate grounds for demanding one's "papers", so to speak? If he were a black guy in a white neighborhood, it would be called profiling. We all know how people feel about profiling, right?
→ He fit this profile!
August 15, 2009 - 19:28 ET by Cool ArrowEinstein disguised as Robin Hood
With his memories in a trunk
Passed this way an hour ago
with his friend, a jealous monk
Oh, he looked so immaculately frightful
as he bummed a cigarette
Then he went off sniffing drainpipes
And reciting the alphabet.
LYDSEXICS UNTIE!
Suggest a re-read of the story.
August 15, 2009 - 19:38 ET by Kingfish17If your depiction of the story was all that took place I would tend to agree with you. But you left out a key point of the story. Someone called the police and made a report that someone was wandering around the neighborhood. The police need to respond accordingly.
And there could be many other extenuating cicrcumstances that, even if someone had not called the police, that it would be appropriate for the police to ask someone for an I.D. Furthermore, the police gave Dylan a ride back to where he was staying. Sounds like they wanted to make sure an older guy who was unfamiliar with a rough neighborhood got back in one piece.
Hardly the desription you paint......."Wo ist Ihre Papiere?"
"I've sentenced boys younger then you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it, but I felt I owed it to them." Judge Smails
Spot on, Kingfish. "The
August 15, 2009 - 19:59 ET by QueenMumSpot on, Kingfish.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
I wonder why this is just
August 15, 2009 - 22:46 ET by balboaI wonder why this is just coming out now, but I don't suspect ulterior motives. Could be no one found out, and then someone happened to tell the story to a reporter, and voila.
It would have been interesting to compare this with the Gates case, which can still be done of course. It's not really as scintillating, though.
racist cop accosts Dylan
August 16, 2009 - 17:19 ET by lgeubank"Why? Because I'm a white Minnesotan in America, with a nasal singing voice AND brilliant songs? RACIST! RACIST! RACIST! WAAAAAH! YOU DON'T KNOW WHO I AM!!! I'LL SUE YO MAMMA!! WAAAAAAAH!"
Oh. I thought he was picked
August 16, 2009 - 17:23 ET by QueenMumOh. I thought he was picked up for being old and a drain on the healthcare system.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
Bob Dylan
August 17, 2009 - 13:16 ET by CTA complete unknown
Like a rolling stone
Woodstock forty years ago seems a long way off as I read the posts tonight. I guess you had to be there to understand Bob Dylan and the poetry of the sixties.
Dylan has lost his arrogance, I hope the poetry continues.
Man bites dog
August 17, 2009 - 10:26 ET by QueenMumOn a related note - From the national column in my local newspaper:
Dateline: "Patchogue, NY - Hispanic Man Beaten
A Hispanic man told police he was beaten and robbed in a racially charged attack in a Long Island community where authorities say another Hispanic was killed in a hate crime last fall.
The victim told investigators three young white men engaged him in conversation as he was walking down the street."
The article goes on to describe an assault and robbery of the victim.
Where is the national coverage of the almost daily muggings and assaults on others by young Hispanic men in the city of Chicago, for instance? Or should we just consider that if a Hispanic man assaults a white man, it's not news. But if a white man assaults a Hispanic man, it is news?
For that matter, what's with the idea that we must label someone who is not Hispanic as white. Since when do Hispanics fall into the category of being a different color? Ridiculous.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher