Let's make one thing perfectly clear: Barack Obama without his teleprompter is like a trapeze artist without a net.
That was likely never more apparent than at the President's healthcare town hall meeting Tuesday when he actually said:
I think private insurers should be able to compete. They do it all the time. I mean, if you think about, if you think about it, um, UPS and FedEx are doing just fine. Right? The, uh, no they are. I mean, it's the post office that's always having problems.
Yep. The supposedly most intelligent person ever to be in the White House really said these words as a reason why Americans should trust government to provide healthcare (astonishingly hilarious video embedded below the fold):
How will this disgraceful performance by the President be reported in the next 24 hours?
Stay tuned.




















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PO'ed?
August 11, 2009 - 21:36 ET by BarkerI'd like a book of stamps and a couple of pain killers for granny, please.
Sorry sir,
August 11, 2009 - 23:12 ET by Jack Hermanyou'll need to move to the pharmocological window for those pain killers.
Obama "Let me take careful aim here...steady...steady..."
August 11, 2009 - 21:38 ET by Army BratBANG! Right in the foot!
islam is a lie and Truth is killing it.
What he probably meant to
August 12, 2009 - 08:01 ET by inquiringmindWhat he probably meant to say was that UPS and FedEx are doing just fine competing against the US Post office. Unfortunatly for him the truth slipped out.
While You're At It, Why Don't You Tell Us About Amtrak?
August 11, 2009 - 21:39 ET by dboROTFLMAO! What an idiot! What do you think the media's response would be if Bush said this (rhetorical question)?
I'm sure Obama regrets his analogy choice.
August 12, 2009 - 05:46 ET by ThisnThatHere are some others, possibly:
Obama: Did I say Post Office? No, No, I meant Amtrak.
Obama: Did I say Amtrak? No, No, I meant Public Schools.
Obama: Did I say Public Schools? No, No, I meant Border Security and Immigration Control.
Obama: Did I say Border Security and Immigration Control? No, No, I meant Congressional Spending controls (like, you know, Jets and stuff).
Obama: Did I say Congressional Spending controls? No, No, I meant Welfare fraud detection.
Obama: Did I say Welfare fraud detection? What the h--l am I talking about?
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Ha Ha Ha
August 12, 2009 - 07:27 ET by BlondeObama's mouth off-prompter is his own worst enemy (Hillary too). I'm loving it!
I hope he fails, too.
Even his teleprompter knows
August 12, 2009 - 07:48 ET by motherbeltEven his teleprompter knows he screwed up LOL.....this is from his blog:
What a day in New Hampshire. Big Guy decides to ad lib one of his
patented comparative examples to simply things for the simple country
folk we were talking to today, and he goes off script to do it. Wow.
Of
course, comparing Big O's health care plan to the post office makes
sense ... if you're talking about the dead letter office. That'll teach
him to go off script.
ROFL!
Oh, and it's a OT, but you did bring up Hillary.....the transcript of her response to the student about what her husband thinks was rich, but OMG did you see the video????
And this is our Head Diplomat ?????
thanks for the link, blonde - I noticed a couple of comments
August 12, 2009 - 14:03 ET by Cape Conservativesimilar to mine posted on Noel's Tina Brown thread. Weight gain and POOR posture! I cannot imagine in my wildest dreams that Condi Rice would have sat like that...slouched back, spread eagle, belly out! I think she's just ticked at the whole world...Barry, Bill, and herself for taking the job!
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Hey motherbelt, remember me? I spent 17 years overseas.
August 12, 2009 - 14:15 ET by JWFYou, as a military member, are required to act as an ambassador of the United States. Her anger was definitely strange. Things get mistranslated all the time. And do we really expect a student in the Congo to have the firmest grasp of who are current President is?
Hell, I have to sit and listen to idiots make idiot statements at work here in the U.S every single day. I don't lose my temper.
The proper response would have been to politely correct the student. Did you mean the current President? Do you want the opinion of the current President?
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Blitzer The Lame rides to the rescue, falls off
August 12, 2009 - 14:33 ET by SickofLibsThe only one I've seen tried to do damage control on this was Blitzer yesterday. He said "it was a translating error by the interpreter; the original question was what does Pres. Obama think."
Of course that's utter BS... how does "what does Mr. Clinton think through the mouth of Mrs. Clinton" have anything to do with Obama?
I'm pretty sure this
August 12, 2009 - 07:45 ET by BuxomAnnieMcGreggorI'm pretty sure this wouldn't be the first time Obama lamented having snoozed through his "RE-CALIBRATE 101" class at Harvard.
flag@WhiteHouse.gov ...the first American"flag" that liberals can finally honor and respect! B.A.M.
Yes good point on Bush!
August 12, 2009 - 11:04 ET by MaximusBraveheartThe media would be on that like flies on ... more like killer bees on an intruder. They would ALSO be saying Bush is out to kill old people and young with health issues. Here you actually have Obama doing just this and they are mum. Like an Ox with a ring in their nose led around. You could literally have this same plan presented by Bush and I think they would be fighting mad.
M-B
nobama
August 11, 2009 - 21:40 ET by LEWIS IN COLORADOPlease, one more time , tell me how brilliant he is and what a magnificent speaker he is.
FedEx/UPS and the US Post Office
August 11, 2009 - 21:48 ET by merlin61I still haven't stopped laughing. Bammy must be hanging around with Joe too much, he's got Bidenitis.
And he's soooooo intelligent, and charming, just ask Chrissy Matthews.
Chris Matthews will have to
August 12, 2009 - 05:48 ET by ThisnThatChris Matthews will have to generate an extra amount of piss to feel the tingle now. But he'll try. He will say it's because the post office is racist, or something else that won't be challenged by anybody.
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clean and articulate, too ;-)...according to Biden!
August 12, 2009 - 14:09 ET by Cape ConservativeThis comment comes from a proud Tea Party attendee, otherwise designated by Homeland Security as a Domestic Right Wing Terrorist! It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams
The first honest thing he said since February.
August 11, 2009 - 21:48 ET by JTPWhen it absolutely, positively has to be lost overnight - I use the US postal service.
The press reporting it? In about the same time it takes to send a brick from southern Florida to northern Alaska.(with insufficient postage)
"Live for yourself...there's no one else more worth living for.
Begging hands and bleeding hearts will only cry out for more"- Rush--Anthem
The first honest thing he
August 12, 2009 - 06:19 ET by motherbeltThe first honest thing he said since February.....
And what was that? LOL
No kidding...a gaffe is when a politician blurts out the truth!
When I saw that yesterday, I nearly fell off my chair! ROFL!!
If that photo were a captionfest, it would read I can't believe I said that $h!t about the Post Office!!
Mr. Genius tells the truth
August 11, 2009 - 21:52 ET by WorriedPrivate companies like FedEx and UPS know how to run their businesses efficiently.
Government backed companies are always messing things up.
Anything the government runs is messed up, which is precisely why we don't want you touching our healthcare Mr. Genuis - the POTUS with the highest IQ evah?
What do you think his IQ is anyway? (I'll never forget when Don Imus was asked that question.)
Fox & Friends this morning
August 12, 2009 - 05:51 ET by ThisnThatFox & Friends this morning explained the difference. Go to UPS on a Saturday, and they greet you by asking how they can help. Go to the Post Office at any time and stand in line 20 minutes for a book of stamps. They don't want your business; they don't need your business; and they can never, ever be fired for incompetance.
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Wow.... he just threw a
August 11, 2009 - 21:57 ET by MidAmericaWow.... he just threw a whole government entity under the mail truck.
USPS To all 57 States
August 11, 2009 - 22:01 ET by BW222You are all forgetting that FedEx and UPS only serve 50 states. The Post Office serves all 57 states.
BW222
bw222
August 12, 2009 - 07:06 ET by misterbill57 states---good one!!!
D'oh
August 11, 2009 - 22:10 ET by Dan DiegoNow I understand why they won't release his university / college transcripts.
After reading his quote a couple times I think I found
August 11, 2009 - 22:18 ET by JTPthe true meaning of what he is saying. It is unfair to the Postal service that Fed Ex and UPS do a better and more profitable job. Therefore, the playing field must be leveled. Watch out Fed Ex and UPS. ONDS (overnightdeliveryservice) reform is on the way.
"Live for yourself...there's no one else more worth living for.
Begging hands and bleeding hearts will only cry out for more"- Rush--Anthem
Here's the funny part
August 11, 2009 - 23:31 ET by Dave DDo you know why Fed Ex and UPS don't deliver regular letters? They are forbidden by law from competing with the USPS in that market. (Yes, the USPS has a government protected monopoly there.)
Was going to make that
August 12, 2009 - 10:46 ET by ReaverWas going to make that comment myself. Even with a mandated monopoly on first class mail delivery the post office is still losing money. It truly is a microcosm of Obamacare
If stupidity got us into this mess,
then why can't it get us out?
--Will Rogers
This is what you get
August 11, 2009 - 22:24 ET by dcheckieThis is what you get when you vote in a president who habitually used drugs as a youth and probably even while as a community organizer. He disgraces and embarrasses the office of the Presidency.
This along with some other
August 11, 2009 - 22:32 ET by d1carterThis along with some other out and out lies will never see the light of day on any MSM...ain't gonna happen. Pictures of the cheering crowd, chanting "yes we can", blah blah blah
Political Football
August 11, 2009 - 22:37 ET by dboSometimes people like myself that believe in free markets get so wrapped up on focussing on the inefficiencies of government run bureaucracies and state run monopolies its easy to overlook the most obvious reason government should keep their hands out of the health care business. Namely, your health care becomes a political football. Here is just a snippet of recent headlines from my local area (Vancouver, Canada).
These are not isolated examples. I've read (and experienced) stories like this my entire adult lifetime.
Wow thats sad DBO
August 11, 2009 - 22:51 ET by shawn228As a person born and bred in Vancouver Canada, I really don't remember it being that bad. Then again I have not lived there for over 10 years.
"I swear sometimes the self-appointed moral police are as obnoxious and demanding of big government interference as "environmentalist" gun control advocates, labor unions and trial lawyers"~fitzfong
Tip of the Iceberg
August 11, 2009 - 23:11 ET by dboI'm afraid the worst is yet to come...if for no other reason demographics. The first boomers are now 64 years old. 85% of the average persons health care costs come in their last two years of life. There are fewer people paying in and more people taking out. Regardless, studies constantly show that it doesn't matter how much money you throw at the system, the service does not improve.
85% of the average persons
August 12, 2009 - 07:53 ET by motherbelt85% of the average persons health care costs come in their last two years of life.
So what happens? When their health care costs start increasing exponentially the Gov. figures they've entered the last two years and start saying no?
Mr. Smith, your recent physician and hospital usage increases lead us to believe that you are in your last two years of life. Therefore, to save money, no new treatments are authorized for you. Spend "quality time" with your family.
Good info DBO
August 11, 2009 - 23:08 ET by legacyrepublicanYou are the real deal versus the "reality check" website info with the WH lies.
Obama - the Post Office and Medicare are the problem??
August 11, 2009 - 22:44 ET by Gary HallToday, the boy wonder says:
In June the adolescent president declared to a crowd:
Hey - why not? Since the president is convinced that the government run postal service is always having problems, and Medicaid and Medicare (our government run health plans) are the real problem - the "nightmare scenario," well, why shouldn't we do more of it?
(;~/ gary
Here is how the evening news will present it...
August 11, 2009 - 22:53 ET by averageschmoeCRICKETS...................
The real problem is
August 12, 2009 - 07:58 ET by motherbeltThe real problem is Medicaid and Medicare. That's the nightmare scenario.
Don't forget: the "solution" to save money on Medicare is to cut payments to doctors. Yeah, I'm sure they'll all sit still for that!
Oh, and don't forget too, they want to cut Medicare Advantage plans that supplement those payments.
What's next: a federal law that makes it illegal for any doctor to refuse to treat patients on Medicare?
Then they can reduce the payments to almost nothing.
Wow Noel
August 11, 2009 - 22:54 ET by shawn228For all the people that made fun of Bush for the way he spoke, this is sure an awakening. Say what you want about Bill Clinton ,but that boy knew how to speak.
"I swear sometimes the self-appointed moral police are as obnoxious and demanding of big government interference as "environmentalist" gun control advocates, labor unions and trial lawyers"~fitzfong
Speaking ability
August 11, 2009 - 23:01 ET by UnsaneQuite honestly we haven't had a great speaker in the White House since Reagan. No, Mr. Greatthings doesn't count.
Clinton (Mr. Greatthings) lost me at his first inaugural, speech wise.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
It's As Boz Scaggs Sang. . .
August 11, 2009 - 22:55 ET by GottafangThe message to the MSM and the die-hard supporters should be as Boz Scaggs sang more than 30 years ago:
"Why can't you just get it through your head / It's over, it's over now."
this might help
August 12, 2009 - 00:10 ET by Wesenhttp://www.lyricsdow...
"You'll have to find out for yourself
Go on ask someone else."
I think a better question
August 11, 2009 - 23:12 ET by lsudolemitecould be asked by removing the "How" part. WILL this get any MSM recognition whatsoever?
He knocks the post office twice...
August 11, 2009 - 23:20 ET by carolina09chuckles
Of those which currently is
August 11, 2009 - 23:38 ET by 24enakOf those which currently is having finacial troubles? the post office, so privately run companies should be able to compete with the gov. health care system.
Honesty, isn't it a refreshing thing coming from the President of the United States.
And to suggest that well since the post office is gov. run and it is having a hard time then gov. run health care would too. The gov. also runs the most powerful military in the world, keep in mind.
So there's some magic law of economics
August 12, 2009 - 00:14 ET by lsudolemitethat's making the Post Office fare badly in a recession while private courriers perform better? Or is it more likely that private companies are operating more efficiently and keeping their costs down? Wow, market economics, what a concept! I doubt the general public is somehow boycotting the USPS, which means that when it operates on an even playing field, it can't compete with private business. The same USPS that Obama holds up as the exemplar of goverment competence is going to have to shut down over 100 offices to stay afloat. And we're supposed to trust the same government that can't deliver mail efficiently to provide quality medical care for 45-50 million people, just for starters? (which is a far more complex task)
Forgive me, I'm also stifling laughter at the thought of a public health care option that wouldn't eventually require ever-increasing subsidies to either stay competitive or price its competitors out of existence, which is where this is all eventually headed. And unlike the government, private insurers don't have the luxury of changing the rules in midstream to increase their business. Your military analogy is nonsensical, since the military is dependent on numerous private contractors to provide essential equipment, supplies and additional personnel. Hardly an outfit run entirely by the government.
Wasn't it the market economy
August 12, 2009 - 00:48 ET by 24enakWasn't it the market economy that put us in the recession? Lack of oversight on Wall Street?
No, it wasn't. Having
August 12, 2009 - 01:43 ET by ckc1227No, it wasn't.
Having said that, no one said a market economy was perfect. Sometimes cars break down....does that mean we should switch to horse and buggies, or maybe rickshaws instead?
Mortgage-backed securities
August 12, 2009 - 01:46 ET by lsudolemiteMortgage-backed securities went under in no small part due to direct and indirect government interference in the name of "affordable housing." Even if I were to fully accept your premise, we're not talking about mere government oversight of private insurers. Medicare and Medicaid already account for enough government intrusion in health care, and Medicare is about to go belly-up as it is. We're talking about a taxpayer-funded public option Trojan horse. If you want to believe we're somehow going to do what no other nation with socialized medicine has ever done, i.e., provide quality care for all with minimum wait times, minimum fraud, and no rationing that's all somehow deficit-neutral and funded entirely by taxes on the uber-rich, be my guest. If you can find the large-scale government program that has ever been run at this level of efficiency, that has run costs anywhere near initial estimates and projections, I'd love to see it. The history of Medicare and Social Security is cold reality.
Wasn't it the market
August 12, 2009 - 03:25 ET by Jack BauerI'm sorry, but your comment is just asinine and dislays a sad ignorance about the way a free-enterprise, semi-capitalistic system economy.
It makes it nearly impossible to respond to you because you don't have the basic knowledge that is essential to communicate on an intelligible level.
I blame decades of pseudo-education from quasi-Marxists masquerading as teachers. Garbage out, garbage in.
But here's the problem from your statement.
A "recession" is a necessay part of the business cycle. It's a necessary correction for when things get out of wack.
So to think that the "market economy put us in a recession" is like saying that "growing old causes old age."
Well DUH. But it hardly explains anything does it?
well there are several flaws in that question
August 12, 2009 - 08:04 ET by lunaticcringeradioi'm not sure if you don't know or if that's a lame attempt to blame a capitalist system for the recession, but i'm going to be polite and hope you weren't trying to take a socialist jab at the capitalist system. as jack bauer correctly explains that a recession is a natural occurance and necessary, but this recession was designed to fail and it was not wall street that caused it if your comment was to take a jab at the capitalist system, but if you weren't and maybe you were generalizing then arm yourself with this, those
people who are pushing univeral health care are trying to tout that it
is the healthcare system that is to blame for the downturn in the
economy. obviously this is a complete lie, as rauhm emmanuel said you
can't waste a good crisis, meaning take a problem and spin it to your
agenda. i don't care if i spelled his name right, i'm afraid if i did
it would summon demons anyway because he looks creepy evil(but carl rove was the anti-christ remember), but the reason the economy is in such a
peril was because of political pressure forced on mortgage lenders to
provide loans to people who couldn't afford them in the guise or racial equality and political correctness or else the lenders would
suffer harsh scrutiny from the government and threatened with losing their
business license. this was done by a particular group of politicians, in planned steps laid in place over several decades to weaken the capitalist system by using government rule, mandate, and intimidation to corner those companies and force them into a no win position. i sincerely believe the lending crisis that caused all the housing market failure, not the health care crisis as you're being told, was an engineered plan to purposely fail to allow big government to step in as the savior to further entrence itself to control the publics lives even more.
talk about an american tragedy that was a real "inside job".
lunaticcringeradio
No, in my opinion
August 12, 2009 - 08:08 ET by BDNo, in my opinion governmental influence caused the downturn.
The housing market was hyper inflated because no one had a right to turn down anyone for a martgage regardless of cause. To do so was to face a governmental inquest. THus every avaialbe house was sold at increasing rates....
'twas Barney & Chris who led the charge & later the coverup
August 12, 2009 - 14:48 ET by Cape Conservativeof the WIDESPREAD corruption THEY were mainly responsible for allowing to occur in our GOVERNMENT agencies, Fannie & Freddie!!!!! We can also thank the reverends Jackson & Sharpton for their excellent 'community organizing' skills leading marchers to protest well-run banks for daring to deny POOR CREDIT RISKS loans!!!! We can also thank presidents Carter and Clinton for ensuring the Community Reinvestment Act held hostage all who dared to challenge their demands...the hell with good business practices, EVERYONE in America deserved to have a home whether they could afford one or not!!!
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Not the best analogy but one that might work
August 12, 2009 - 21:56 ET by UnsaneYou are clearly economically illiterate.
Think of the economy as...well, a person. Just as you cannot eat 24/7, and you must digest food, and go through the digestion process, thus economies cannot indefinitely boom. Eventually people buy enough vehicles, planes, gidgets and widgets, and won't buy anymore for awhile for a variety of reasons.
Oh, they will again at some point, but not immediately. So fewer goods are made from time to time because of this very basic fact.
This is going to constantly, inexorably happen in market economies all over the world, regardless of what governments do.
Keep reading this site. You might learn something about how the world actually works.
"CONSUMED DEMOCRACY RETURNS A SOCIALIST REGIME" - Slayer, "Fictional Reality", from Divine Intervention (1994)
"And to suggest that well
August 12, 2009 - 02:05 ET by ckc1227"Of those which currently is having finacial troubles? the post office,
so privately run companies should be able to compete with the gov.
health care system. "
Wonder how they would do if Congress passed legislation saying if Fedex or UPS ever made any changes at all, people would be forced to start using the post office? Oh, and maybe you can help me out...how well do they compete with the Post Office when it comes to first class mail?
And to suggest that well since the post office is gov. run and it is
having a hard time then gov. run health care would too."
We don't have to suggest it, we actually have historical data from all over the world, including the U.S. to back it up. Hello, who runs medicare/medicaid? They're more broke than the post office.
"The gov. also
runs the most powerful military in the world, keep in mind."
Your point? No one here will argue government runs military flawlessly. Here's something else to keep in mind though....running the military is something our government is supposed to do, even if they do a crappy job of it. Demonizing private industry and redistributing wealth to pay for the health care of people who don't want to pay for their own...not so much.
I love that military analogy
August 12, 2009 - 10:39 ET by mattmI love that military analogy the left keeps bringing up. It shows their ignorance and their hypocrisy.
Hypocrisy, because the one government program - the military - that is actually constitutionally mandated (and for obvious common-sense reasons, which is confusing to the left) is the one they wish to dismantle.
Ignorance, because the military is not meant to be an efficient service-delivery system. It's meant to deter agressive threats to this country and its interests and to destroy the enemy.
But even if you did do a cost-benefit analysis, and could put a dollar value on freedom, you'd have to say that the U.S. military is a bargain!
Re military analogy
August 12, 2009 - 11:11 ET by slickwillie2001Agreed. The military is also not burdened by a domineering civil service Big Union culture as all other government is. In the civil service you can't fire non-performers, mediocrity is rewarded, no one is ever laid off, etc. The military is run more like a non-union business. If our military was run like the rest of government, we would be Belgium.
Actually...
August 12, 2009 - 05:56 ET by TheCableGuyIf we want to be honest, the military, while the best in the world, is not exactly a clear example of efficiency or cost-savings; most liberals would argue that it's too expensive, too.
BUT-- the military is in the Constitution, clear as day. As is the Post Office. Health care is not, and that, to me is the central point most people miss in this debate.
But the military cost overruns are NOT due to the military,
August 12, 2009 - 14:52 ET by Cape Conservativerather our wonderful, cost-efficient CONGRESS is responsible for the poor budget management decisions...such as Ms. Speaker's recent demands to have 8!!!! new jets for the use of Congress - all costs to be put in the Defense Department's column, OF COURSE!
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24Enak: As anyone in the
August 12, 2009 - 08:05 ET by BD24Enak:
As anyone in the military can lovingly attest - it is horribly inefficient.
It depends on how you define efficiency.
August 12, 2009 - 10:35 ET by mattmIf the military was a business, yeah - it's inefficient as hell. But as a force for defending freedom, which is a priceless commodity, the U.S. military is a model of efficiency.
Sure, as far as outcome I
August 13, 2009 - 08:07 ET by BDSure, as far as outcome I agree.
But the process to acheive the outcome is horridly inefficient and sadly must remain so.
As anyone in the Government can tell you, the end of the Fiscal year is approaching, now until the end of September is the most wasteful period.
24enak, you have it backwards.
August 12, 2009 - 11:26 ET by CobraMan"Of those which currently is having finacial troubles? the post office, so privately run companies should be able to compete with the gov. health care system."
24enak, you have it backwards. The Government can't compete against private business without resorting to a monopoly, something that eliminates competition altogether, yet Obama is proposing that the Government compete against private insurance; a losing proposal as he admits.
So, why would an "intelligent" President propose something he KNOWS won't work, and will cost the US tax payers HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS of dollars? It's simple, Obama doesn't want competition, he want's a government monopoly even though he knows that this is the worse route to take.
The Citizens of each State shall be entitled to all Privileges and Immunities of Citizens in the several States.
The US Constitution
Unless you're a fetus.
The US Supreme Court
SO WHY...because this president is intent on destroying our
August 12, 2009 - 14:56 ET by Cape Conservativecountry!!!! He wants the government to have control over our every thought, word or deed! He wants access to our bank accounts. He wants access to our medical records. He wants to tell us how to raise our children. He wants to tell us when we should die!!!!!! He came into office with a sole purpose...and that purpose was to destroy America's freedoms!!!!
REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH - HE SAID IT...Why didn't everyone hear what I heard???? SOCIALISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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It has been my
August 12, 2009 - 16:59 ET by stratmanIt has been my understanding for some time that Government does not "run" the Military, and neither do the generals.
Sergeants (and equivalents) run the Military.
In addition to bleeding money, it can be a stressful place.
August 12, 2009 - 00:16 ET by JWFGoing postal is an American English slang term, used as a verb meaning to suddenly become extremely and uncontrollably angry, often to the point of violence and in a workplace environment. The term derives from a series of incidents from 1983 onward in which United States Postal Service (USPS) workers shot and killed managers, fellow workers, and members of the police or general public. Between 1986 and 1997, more than 40 people were killed in at least 20 incidents of workplace rage. Following this series of events, the idiom entered common parlance and has been applied to murders committed by employees in acts of workplace rage, irrespective of the employer; and generally to describe fits of rage, though not necessarily at the level of murder, in or outside the workplace.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Subsidized?
August 12, 2009 - 04:32 ET by FranksamPOTUS perceives that the government merely gets subsidies from taxpayers? He may have not been kidding when he said he was from another planet.
"How will this disgraceful
August 12, 2009 - 04:37 ET by chessplayer"How will this disgraceful performance by the President be reported in the next 24 hours?"
It won`t be, because it would embarass the medias god.
I love the picture of Obama
August 12, 2009 - 05:14 ET by mostlymoderateI love the picture of Obama at the top of this article. It definitely portrays how he must feel after making such a fool of himself once again.
Not to be nasty, but he looks drugged too.
Maybe the Obamas have their own
August 12, 2009 - 09:49 ET by BO STINKSMax Jacobson - "Dr. Feelgood?"
"...it must be known that we are at all times ready for war." G. Washington
Betcha he's wishing he had a cigarette - NOW!!!!!
August 12, 2009 - 14:58 ET by Cape ConservativeAnd he'd probably smoke it right in front of everyone, too ;-)
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So much for the myth of Obama's intelligence . . . .
August 12, 2009 - 05:21 ET by Gat New YorkEvery day that goes by we get another clue that Obama's education is as thin as the sheepskin.
In criticizing the U.S. Post Office Obama actually gives another example why a government subsidized enterprise cannot work as effectively as private sector business.
In comparing UPS and FedEx, Obama forgets that UPS and FedEx do not have to deliver 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year to every mailbox in America as well as maintain at least one full service post office in every zip code in America. A 4th grader knows better.
I wonder if Obama has even
August 12, 2009 - 05:44 ET by NonanonI wonder if Obama has even read the bill. Or is he just pushing the socialist changes he wants implemented regardless of how many of them he can get?
Nonanon I believe your 'or' assumption is correct!
August 12, 2009 - 14:59 ET by Cape ConservativeThis comment comes from a proud Tea Party attendee, otherwise designated by Homeland Security as a Domestic Right Wing Terrorist! It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams
Not to worry, Noel....
August 12, 2009 - 06:24 ET by motherbeltHow will the media spin it?
Not to worry, Noel, the shovel-ready MOI are on the job!
It will not see the light of day, except on Fox, and everyone knows they are liars!
apparently this joker doesn't realize the usps relies on fed ex
August 12, 2009 - 07:39 ET by lunaticcringeradioi'm sure he just forgot but the usps for almost for the greater part of this decade has contracted and relied on fed ex for all of it's air delivery of the mail. take this lil comment from postalprojoect.com
quote
The agreement between the
US Postal Service and FedEx is a successful, innovative example of a government
entity
working with a private-sector company to improve performance and provide
benefits to both parties. As a result of this win-win agreement, the
Postal Service
has been able to streamline its network and improve service on both
expedited and first-class mail while reducing infrastructure costs.
end quote
the reality of the matter is not as shiney as this spin that's trying to be put on it, but basically the usps is a lump of inefficient waste and they needed a private enterprise to come pull their butts out of the trouble of big government mismanagement. anyone near an airport seens a usps jet anymore, you have a better chance of seeing one flown by amelia earhart. too bad the rest of the usps hasn't taken on the "improved performance". i guess the benifit fed ex received was being paid, cause i sure don't think the usps has any lessons to teach them on how to do things right.
like the few times when i've had to stand in line out the building and around the corner because they only had 2 people working the counters when there could have been 6.
lub my gubment runned edumakashun and it makeses sense to gets me sum free gubment helf care toos.
lunaticcringeradio
narcissist in chief
August 12, 2009 - 08:05 ET by mjfitchobama "my kingdom for a telepromter"
"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery." -Winston Churchill
Obama certainly did put his
August 12, 2009 - 08:33 ET by dscottObama certainly did put his foot in it. The USPS can get taxpayer money as a backstop to their operations when they run in the red. Even with that backstop they are still having to cut service.
I believe Obama revealed the real problem with a government sponsored health insurance program, those who participate in that program will not pay in enough premiums to cover their pool of insured. Any shortfall in revenue would have to be subsidized by the taxpayer. Now why would this government answer to health care require over a trillion dollars in a ten year period unless they they know in advance their efforts will fail financially requiring a subsidy. Which begs the question, if the government already has Medicaid for those who can't afford healthcare, then why impact the entire healthcare system instead of just simply expand Medicaid in a means tested form? Does it really take over 1100 pages of legalese to do this? What the Dems have offered here is a Rube Goldberg solution.
I suspect most people who are against ObamaCare as presented by HR 3200 at a subconscious level are bothered by such complexity and the thought of another expensive liberal boondoggle. What's the track record of government programs? A Boondoggle. Which is why HillaryCare was rejected, it had nothing to do with the details, it had to do with past performance.
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Ah yes...it has almost been
August 12, 2009 - 08:38 ET by black47211Ah yes...it has almost been 24 hours and I am anxiously awaiting some MSM theatrics and damage control.
Classic, though, really. Obama publicly saying that a government run "business" was bad. Thanks for the ammo, buddy!
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If they can't spin it,
August 12, 2009 - 09:20 ET by mattmIf they can't spin it, they'll spike it. If pundits on the "right" start hammering it, the msm will cover them as meanies who are just pissed off that a black man is president. The ignorant masses will soon forget Obama's idiocy.....watch for Bush-bashing documentaries on PBS - they're great at distraction. They're already running Nixon-watergate stuff - they did this during Clinton as well.
They always come up with something.
I think we need to address
August 12, 2009 - 09:12 ET by dscottI think we need to address one of the central tenents of ObamaCare, they claim they can cut $200 billion from Medicare with no drop in service to seniors. Their claim is the bulk of the waste is administrative, does it pass the sniff test to actually claim bureaucrats are being paid $200 billion to pass paperwork?
According to the SS Trust fund Report the Medicare Hospital Insurance (HI) Fund spent $235.6 billion in 2008 and Supplementary Medical Insurance (SMI) Trust Fund spent $232.6 billion in 2008. Total of $468.1 billion a year. If this $200 billion savings is annual, the claim would be a fantastic 40% of annual cost is paperwork - Doesn't pass the sniff test, even the government isn't that incompetent.
Now if this $200 billion is over 10 a year period ($20 billion/year) like the quoted trillion dollar figure to fund ObamaCare, then what they are saying is of the $4.681 trillion that Medicare will be spent over 10 years, they will be able to save less than 5%. Does that pass the sniff test? Is that really worth $20 billion a year by engaging in a boondoggle? Are we really saying there isn't an alternative to shave $20 billion from Medicare by changing some rules within Medicare? What's the annual estimated fraud in Medicare? On the order of $10.8 BILLION A YEAR! http://www.insurance...
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, starving the poor one gallon of ethanol at a time. Fill your tank with E85 and cull a village.
Where was the TOTUS last
August 12, 2009 - 09:13 ET by pcantidoteWhere was the TOTUS last night??? Being worked on by the government run audiovisual repair team? We are going to need a TOTUS czar to get this resolved ASAP. We can't have the POTUS out there speaking candidly like this.
Enforce Term Limits if They Won't: Vote Against ALL Incumbents in 2010.
Dunce Award!
August 12, 2009 - 09:33 ET by Meredith1966I saw this and thought that in one fell swoop he's taken all the air out of the arguement for government-provided health care by stating what damn near every conservative and libertarian has been saying for years about government-run operations like the USPS. He's just made the case for why health care should be left to the private sector by mocking the Posties--given the chance, the private sector will always do a better job at service delivery than the government. Always!! And he did it even as he tried to sell government-run health care to the unwashed masses.
Tell me again that Bush 43 is dumb...
"The words of a President have an enormous weight and ought not to be used indiscriminately." - Calvin Coolidge
Caught this gaff and laughed
August 12, 2009 - 09:47 ET by QueenMumHi-frickin-larious! Way to go, Mr. President. I guess the teleprompter is on vacation and Joe Biden is filling in for it.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
August 12, 2009 - 10:13 ET by jessieH"The post office is always having problems". I guess he didn't know the post office is govt. run
I saw this on Drudge
August 12, 2009 - 10:20 ET by Lifelong MemphianI saw this on Drudge yesterday but didn't read the accompanying story. I thought what a great analogy.
Fast forward to this morning...I turned on the news and saw it was Obama that said that?!?! I almost fainted from laughing so hard that I couldn't catch my breath!!
That is the first (and no doubt only) time I've ever agreed with anything he said. Did Rush highjack the teleprompter? or was it the right-wing terrorists, like myself?? Or maybe it was one of those super dangerous soldiers who have just returned from combat.
Or maybe he's just a MORON.
Ironic
August 12, 2009 - 10:46 ET by QueenMumIn today's mail we received a certificate of appreciation for the military service of my deceased father-in-law with the official White House Seal and Pres. Obama's signature. The irony is that in very large letters on the front of the envelope are the words "DO NOT BEND". Guess what? Yup. Both the envelope and the certificate inside were bent. A government document from the Office of the President, sent through the U.S. postal service to honor a WWII vet, arrives in no better condition than the ads from our local grocery stores.
"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out
of other people's money."
—Margaret Thatcher
Hi, Mum!
August 12, 2009 - 13:15 ET by texasborngrannyYears ago the USPS did the same thing to my son's basic training portrait!!!
I took his ROLLED UP and CRUSHED 8x10 and the envelope marked "DO NOT FOLD OR BEND. PHOTO ENCLOSED" to my post office and had to make tons of noise just to get to SEE the postmaster. When he finally came out from his back office and attempted to shoo me out, I stopped and showed each person in the long line what the postman had done to my baby's photo (I don't care how old he is, how big he is or who has to salute him now, he's still my baby!). Everyone in line started giving the postmaster a hard time, too. Not that it did any good... they were sure not gonna get fired, or even deciplined.
I must have missed the part......
August 12, 2009 - 10:48 ET by Willis_Leon_JohnsonSince the discussion is healthScare, has he mentioned the awesome efficiencies of the VA medical system yet?
Why not compare apples to the rotten apples in that barrel?
http://gjresult.com
Explanation
August 12, 2009 - 11:10 ET by justbob223I'm sure the White House spin on this will be that the president was "taken out of context." A gaffe in politics is when a politician unwittingly tells the truth. Then they have to begin damage control and convince us all that we really didn't hear what we heard.
Mr. Obama,I will not
August 12, 2009 - 11:15 ET by SvenMr. Obama,
I will not dignify you with the title of "President!" You are an abject idiot!
In your short time in national politics, you've insulted our military, our police, and now The American Citizens as a whole!! Did you not realize that by insulting the Postal Service (a Government agency), as compared to UPS and FedEx, you make the point that the Government SHOULDN'T be running health care!?!?
Sorry, but a person who's this stupid, and regularly Sh**'s on the Consitution does not deserve the title of President. If you keep it up, I may not even refer to you as "Mr."
Hussein's Handlers
August 12, 2009 - 11:16 ET by 1611LilacLadyI can hear the comments now as they walked Hussein to the armoured limo:
"Great job, Mr. President."
"You told 'em, Mr. President."
"Oh they never noticed, Mr. President."
The door shuts and they turn to each other and in unison ask:
"Now what are we going to do??????"
Isaiah 5:20a Woe unto them who call evil good, and good evil. . . KJV
Biden --
August 12, 2009 - 11:15 ET by misterbill-- gets beat by Obama for "Foot in Mouth" award.
My new little friend 24enak tries hard guys. Give him credit.
August 12, 2009 - 11:27 ET by JWFHe is watching his spelling. And he is polite. Wrong. But he is trying.
The gov. also runs the most powerful military in the world, keep in mind. - Powerful is not the same as efficient, Skippy. We spend a good portion of Federal budget on what is by design a monopoly. Maintaining a military is in the Constitution. Paying for your health care is not. Don't compare apples and oranges.
Honesty, isn't it a refreshing thing coming from the President of the United States. - No Skippy. It is not honest. Insurance companies already compete. There are more than a hunded insurance companies that compete already.
finacial - It is financial Skippy. You get a freebie. Everyone has a typo.
Wasn't it the market economy that put us in the recession? Lack of oversight on Wall Street? - market economy, Skippy? You want something else? Do us all a favor. Don't try to boil complex issues down to pithy statements. They are still writing books on the causes and effects of the Great Depression. And the was 80 years ago. Books, Skippy, Books. We came close here and still may get closer. Learn a little more and then you may be able to expand to paragraphs. PS:
We don't have a true market economy. There is plenty of governmental influence via regulation.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Where did Skippy go?
August 13, 2009 - 02:20 ET by JWFMore examples of governmental influence Skippy.
Cash for Clunkers - Forcefully removing used cars from the economy - governmental influence
Forcing banks to make mortgages to people that cannot pay them back - governmental influence
Subsidizing ethanol and forcing us to put it in our gas tank - governmental influence
Subsidizing windmills and requiring them to be a certain percentage of electricity production - governmental influence
Requiring automobiles have certain mileage standards - governmental influence
Not allowing health insurance companies to compete across state lines - governmental influence
Creating an $800 billion dollar stimulus that only goes to democrat interests and does nothing to actually stimulate - governmental influence
Requiring us to change our lightbulbs - governmental influence
Subsidizing inefficient monopolies - Amtrak, Post office, Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security - governmental influence
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Maybe Berry is just so
August 12, 2009 - 11:36 ET by MightyMouthMaybe Berry is just so much smarter than the rest of us we just can't understand what he was trying to say?....
Naaw!! he's an idiot!
"There are two types of people in this country; those who provide freedom and those who enjoy it." MM says...
"That Dems Show"
August 12, 2009 - 15:02 ET by SickofLibsAlienate the military. Check!
Alienate the CIA. Check!
Alienate the US Postal Service. Check!
Alienate the independents. Check!
Alienate the senior citizens. Check!
Alienate the white citizens. Check!
Next...when the death panels convene, all of the above
August 12, 2009 - 21:28 ET by Cape Conservativewill be assigned 'pills' - only those minorities who DESERVE the 'redistribution of life' will be allowed to receive treatment.
Redistribution - thinning the herd - leveling the playing field - whatever he wants to call it, he will NOT be stopped by some 'stupid ordinary citizens' from achieving his goal!
This comment comes from a proud Tea Party attendee, otherwise designated by Homeland Security as a Domestic Right Wing Terrorist! It is no dishonor to be in a minority in the cause of liberty and virtue ~ Sam Adams