Unless you've been asleep for the past couple of weeks, you're quite aware that CNN's Lou Dobbs has been taking a lot of heat for his reports concerning Barack Obama's birth certificate.
Never reluctant to stand up for himself, Dobbs on his radio program Tuesday took aim at those in the media who are "trying to silence their opponents and their competitors in the public marketplace of ideas," in particular MSNBC's Rachel Maddow who he referred to as a "teabagging queen."
What follows is a YouTube audio of some of his comments, along with a partial transcript:
The left is trying to silence their opponents and their competitors in the public marketplace of ideas... One issue in which the ethnocentric issue groups have been trying to silence me is on the issue of illegal immigration. Many of those, if you will, have migrated to me here recently because I, even though I said I believe the President is a citizen of the United States, I don't understand why he shouldn't produce a birth certificate. My God, you're talking about the third rail of American journalism, baby! That's it. I'm not going to back off. [...]
And teabagging queen Rachel Maddow over at MSNBC, she wanted another shot so apparently she twisted, she tried to twist my words. She ignored my statements on the issue. In other words, she was not being intellectually honest. Imagine that. [...]
She lied. I never said I'm a 'birther.' I'm not. I don't know how many times I've said, 'Barack Obama is a citizen of the United States. Why not release your birth certificate?' What is the big deal with saying that?
—Noel Sheppard is the Associate Editor of NewsBusters. Follow him at Facebook and Twitter.
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Teabagging...
July 29, 2009 - 00:10 ET by SayAnythingin any sense... doesn't apply to Rachel Maddow. Hello!
Anyways, doesn't Lou know that he just played right into her hand and now she can laugh at his fat-face for behaving exactly like she presumed he would react? Angry, pittiful and laughable. Its part of the Rachel Maddow Show playbook. Where she basically gets her fun out of whatever token conservative does that get's her giggling on her show.
Lou, you should have known better.
He's big enough to take it
July 29, 2009 - 07:35 ET by GalvanicMaddow is just another snarky Lefty fascinated by her own smugness as her ratings remain in the cellar.
Dobbs is a big boy. I think he welcomes continued sniping from Maddow; it probably helps his ratings.
You know how sometimes,
July 29, 2009 - 09:17 ET by Mike SargentYou know how sometimes, songs just pop into your head when you see headlines?
http://www.youtube.c...
That's what I came up with :D
Gee, thanks, Mike. Now I'm going to have that song in my head...
July 30, 2009 - 21:39 ET by R D Helm...for the REST OF THE BLEEPIN' EVENING!
:-^)
-Dave
No to msnbc
July 29, 2009 - 00:26 ET by slickwillie2001Agreed. Lou should take a hint from everyone at Fox News and Limbaugh and never mention MSNBC; make like they don't exist. They are the pipsqueak on the block and if you acknowledge them they win.
Here?
July 29, 2009 - 07:19 ET by CaringwhiteguyShould that apply at NewsBusters too? What would be left to blog about?
Someday folks will say
July 29, 2009 - 02:03 ET by marvlSomeday folks will say "Rachel who?"
LOL...that was pretty
July 29, 2009 - 02:55 ET by RR GOPLOL...that was pretty good. Always nice to watch the MSM talking heads go after each other.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).
Watch O'Reilly for more on this
July 29, 2009 - 03:55 ET by HipnosisLast night Bill O'Reilly said Dobbs would be on his show to talk about this. Should be interesting.
I stick my neck out for nobody.
The same BOR?
July 29, 2009 - 05:36 ET by Kingfish17Is that the same O'Reilly, who when answering an email from Canada which inquired why Canada's average life expectancy was higher, even under Canada's socialized medical system, responded:
"Well dear Canadian viewer, Canada's average life expectancy is higher because the United States has ten times more people then Canada, and that means ten times more accidents and such resulting in accidental deaths!"
He said this with a straight face.
(And no, I personally do not want socialized medicine. But lately, the more I watch BOR, the more my opinion of him goes down.)
"I've sentenced boys younger then you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it, but I felt I owed it to them." Judge Smails
So, are you saying that
July 29, 2009 - 06:58 ET by rimskySo, are you saying that population density has NOTHING to do with ALE?
I'm not a statistician, are you? I'm just curious.
→ Life expectancy
July 29, 2009 - 07:10 ET by Cool ArrowI wouldn't think the sizes of the populations would be that important once you get into the millions.
The percentage of elderly within each population, gun laws, narcotic use, drinking habits, driving habits, sun exposure, and time spent safely indoors away from the cold, would probably influence statistical differences more than population density.
Hope is an excuse for doing nothing - Rush Limbaugh
Canada Death rate 7.61
July 29, 2009 - 08:52 ET by USA4freedomCanada Death rate 7.61 deaths/1,000.
USA Death rate: 8.27 deaths/1,000
Black population of Canada 2.5%
Black population of USA 12.8
Average life span of White males in USA 75.3
Average life span of White females in USA 80.5
Average life span of Black males in USA 69.0
Average life span of Black females in USA 76.1
Canada's population of 31,612,897
USA black population 36,600,000
Sooooo do you think that having a population that is MORE..then all of Canada, with a death rate of about “5 years less” just MIGHT change the numbers???
If fact to look at these numbers its looks like we are doing a much better job with health care!
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
You just broke the cardinal
July 29, 2009 - 09:03 ET by MazziYou just broke the cardinal rule of statistics. NEVER show all of them. That might get people thinking, and the point of statistics is to SWAY people into whatever position you hold, not to actually use their gray matter.
Oh, and don't you know you are not allowed to use black statistics? We are supposed to pretend that there is NO difference between races ever, ever, ever. (Unless of course, you are "of color" yourself and are trying to get your hands on some government money to fix the problem.)
Shame, shame.
(removing my tongue from my cheek now)
"I would rather be historically accurate than politically correct" ~ My husband's T-Shirt
DING! We have a winner.
July 29, 2009 - 09:14 ET by jazboThose who believe in nothing will believe anything.
Reply to USA4Freedom
July 29, 2009 - 15:04 ET by Kingfish17The last time I checked, the death rate in both Canada and the United States was 1,000 deaths/1,000. Let me know if we ever crack the 100% barrier because you and I are going to make a KILLING once we get the patent.
"I've sentenced boys younger then you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it, but I felt I owed it to them." Judge Smails
Two points
July 29, 2009 - 15:30 ET by mandrakeThe death rate in Canada and the US and every where else is 1000/1000. And second, what are these women doing to kill off their men five years befor their time?
Kingfish17 Your right, it is
July 29, 2009 - 15:44 ET by USA4freedomKingfish17
Your right, it is 100% Non of us get out alive.
That would be per year.
I kind of assumed......... my bad..
As far as the women killing off the men, if there is any question you have not met my x wife.
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
Couldn't pass up the easy joke.
July 29, 2009 - 16:47 ET by Kingfish17I kinda thought you meant that. I just couldn't pass up the easy joke!
"I've sentenced boys younger then you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it, but I felt I owed it to them." Judge Smails
Population Density
July 29, 2009 - 15:11 ET by Kingfish17Population density may influence average life expectancy. That's not what BOR said, however. Total number of people in a given country shouldn't have anything to do with the average.
And no, I'm not a statistician. I'm not that big of a lier!
"I've sentenced boys younger then you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it, but I felt I owed it to them." Judge Smails
Re BOR & Life Expectancy
July 29, 2009 - 09:18 ET by slickwillie2001After reading your post I went looking for a video and sure enough it's available:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEuEkyzTKFY
Yes, he did say that. BOR is not the sharpest tool in the shed. Unfortunately the video is a Media Splatters snag so it will be used to demonstrate 'how dumb those conservatives are.'
I've never thought too highly of BOR but I still watch him for the guests, the topics, and because it's there.
America has a higher auto
July 29, 2009 - 13:57 ET by ckc1227America has a higher auto fatality rate than Canada, and we have a lot more drivers. They have about 3,000 deaths each year, the U.S. has about 40,000. Not sure if that was his point, but it is a contributing factor.
His answer may have been dumb, but it was no dumber than the question.
And speaking of Canada's life expectantcy, I think it's less than 2 years more than ours. It's not like they're living to 100 and we're dying in our 50's.
Average Life Expectancy vs. Numbers of Deaths
July 29, 2009 - 14:55 ET by Kingfish17The total number of deaths contributed to one factor does not matter when you are considering averages because you always have to look at the total pool involved. You could say, that Canada has a higher life expectancy because on average less people die in auto accidents then the United States. This would be true, citing your example, if the total population of Canada was greater then the 3/40 ratio you cite above.
My understanding of the lower life expectancy in the United States has allready been stated above in other posts. We still have a large immigrant inflow, both legal and illegal, and those groups tend to bring the life expectancy rate lower.
The United States also high a much higher infant mortality rate then most developed countries. This is because we actually go to great lengths to try and save premature and underweight and other high risk births, and if they don't make it, they are counted as a death here, and that greatly lowers the "average". In other countries that don't go to that effort, they don't count the zero year old baby as a "death".
"I've sentenced boys younger then you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it, but I felt I owed it to them." Judge Smails
slick... Ditto your
July 29, 2009 - 16:54 ET by bigtimerslick...
Ditto your post.
Then again, you probably already know that from the recent days regarding all of this topic and characters involved.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Hip... Should be
July 29, 2009 - 16:52 ET by bigtimerHip...
Should be interesting indeed...I've been following all of this on both shows too...plus commented here and there as it has gone on.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Lezbo
July 29, 2009 - 04:58 ET by cwnelson79A teabagging queen? Well she can't be. She hates America , and is a pervert who is into chicks. However, she does make the perfect liberal.
correct - it's a mislabeling.
July 29, 2009 - 06:22 ET by puredmashieshe's no tea-bagging queen. she's a snatch-gobbling bull dyke.
swing hard in case you hit it.
Good one!
July 29, 2009 - 08:03 ET by KellyRDamn, that was a good one. Pow, right in the kisser!
These kinds of comments
July 30, 2009 - 21:02 ET by mamabearThese kinds of comments would provoke righteous indignation from NB if they were directed at conservatives on kos or HuffPo.
Have we decided to give up on the whole civil discourse thing?
yes
August 1, 2009 - 09:46 ET by cwnelson79yes
puredmashie wins the thread!
July 30, 2009 - 21:46 ET by R D HelmLOL-Hell, even I don't have the stones required to post that.
I mean, I would have posted something along the wimpy lines of something involving belly buttons and tartar sauce. :-^)
-Dave
A truly unfair comment
July 29, 2009 - 06:50 ET by Rhymes With RightI don't believe that Rachel MadCow would get anywhere near a scrotum, even if her life depended on it.
Blogging at rhymeswithright.mu.nu
I think she's probably very
July 29, 2009 - 08:13 ET by SickofLibsI think she's probably very familiar with scrotums; they just happen to be made out of rubber.
I don't believe
July 29, 2009 - 08:29 ET by Tom in NCThat any self respecting man would let her near his scrotum.
Isn't Anderson Cooper
July 29, 2009 - 07:02 ET by kch50428The teabagging queen?
Maddow and Cooper the pooper
July 29, 2009 - 07:43 ET by nadadhimmiMaddow and Cooper the pooper trooper are both a waste of protoplasm. Absolutely worthless individuals. Regardless of their political stances, they are without value and only serve to pollute Gaia with their gaseous expulsions, huge carbon footprint and very existance. Every byproduct of their lives is harmful to Mother Earth and brings harm to her innocent life forms. We must follow liberal, climate change logic and eliminate harmful waste NOW. Therefore, ALL humans must be cleansed from Planet Earth. I call upon Cooper and Maddow to volunteer and lead us into the future, stop the rape of Gaia and become one with the Universe. CAN WE DO IT?, YES WE CAN.
Jeez, Noel, what were you
July 29, 2009 - 07:17 ET by motherbeltJeez, Noel, what were you thinking????
Maybe he called her that because of this
Wait,
July 29, 2009 - 07:27 ET by Paul AtreidesI thought that Olbermann and Anderson Cooper were the queens who knew all about teabagging.
Is Rachel really a guy?
How about clam
July 29, 2009 - 08:23 ET by USA4freedomHow about clam bagger..
(sorry..)
Ronald Reagan, 1962: I did not leave the Democratic party, the party left me.
Insert: your name, 2008, and the Republican party.
July 29, 2009 - 08:45 ET by jessieHWhy does the MSM make up so many catch phrases? Now it's "Birthers". How about Speaking ENGLISH people.
media and snappy names
July 29, 2009 - 13:51 ET by vtbse99one word as to why: newspeak
July 29, 2009 - 08:49 ET by jessieHI guess if you are for abortion, you are a DEATHER.
Yes,
July 29, 2009 - 14:41 ET by general companyI agree
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
caring white guy
July 29, 2009 - 08:56 ET by east tennessee johnNo, as tough as it might be, we must refer to, only when it is absolutely necessary to the freaks at msdnc, even though they are the 29th-30th rated cable station. It provides comic relief and warns us that there are such mutants who have mikes and aren't afraid to use them. They must be challenged and exposed for the "people" of whatever type they are.
this guy
July 29, 2009 - 09:00 ET by tomolson3What kind of parents would name there son "Rachel"?
.
July 29, 2009 - 09:14 ET by jazbo.
Uh huh
July 29, 2009 - 09:15 ET by sentforth5Everybody jumped me the first time I brought this up.
Oliar the usurper is an Indonesian with absolutely no allegiance to the USA.
They can't ALL be crazy conspiracies.
Lou was being kind
July 29, 2009 - 09:19 ET by Delsabecause Maddow is actually a teabagging DYKE!
Lou Called It Right
July 29, 2009 - 09:58 ET by sic721Picture this,
Rachel, 2 Lipton's, and a bumpy cucumber.
Hey, she can dream, can't she?
"Let us disappoint the Men who are raising themselves upon the ruin of this Country."-John Adams
It's obvious why Lou Dobbs
July 29, 2009 - 10:32 ET by goldbarIt's obvious why Lou Dobbs is making all these crazy statements--his ratings are in the tank! You can only rant about illegal aliens for so long.
Nugget:
July 29, 2009 - 12:00 ET by SickofLibsDOBBS: I don't know how many times I've said, 'Barack Obama is a citizen of the United States. Why not release your birth certificate?'
Where's the crazy part?
Lou Dobbs
July 29, 2009 - 12:33 ET by rpeeler42I like Lou. I also agree with him on the "where the hell was Obama the Socialist/Marxist born. Why won't Barack or Gibbs stand up and show his real birth certificate. I personally do not know where he was born. When I was trying to enter the Air Force they wouldn't accept a Birth Registration as proof of citizenship. I had to obtain a formal Birth Certificate. Hell you would think being President would require at least that much.I would like to see Lou go to Fox, although Bill O'reilly doesn't seem to like him so much. Maybe he is a little jealous.
rpeeler, your
July 29, 2009 - 16:32 ET by celatorrpeeler, your question--where is the bc?--is not going to go away, because Obama's bizarre behavior on the issue is keeping the fires going.
The only conclusion a rational person can draw from that behavior is that his US official birth certificate does not exist. There isn't one. Nada. Period. It doesn't exist.
A big clue is the behavior of the Old Useless Media toward those who are asking the questions: mockery. This is a dead giveaway for me.
The forgeries (ala Kos) and "certificates of birth" are the typical rookie tricks Obama has played all his life. He's always gotten away with this sort of dance. Not this time.
As to the other Obama personnel records.. college diplomas etc etc etc. I don't believe they exist, or would be quickly proven as complete forgeries ifbrought forth. He won't present them because they don't exist. What other conclusion can we draw?
Until he comes forth with these documents (like the rest of us would have to do), I don't believe he graduated from any university, he certainly isn't a lawyer, he is not a citizen of the US.
What is he? He's a completely made up character, with a totally ficticious biography, a stooge of who knows who, who cannot utter three coherent consective sentences without a teleprompter in front of his eyeballs.
And he will be discovered. It's happening fast. Once the middle of the road democrats realize he is destroying their political party, they will kick his butt out come next election.
No citizen's right to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, or property is safe as long as Obama is President of the United States.
http://freecharlotte.files.wo
July 29, 2009 - 14:21 ET by goldbarhttp://freecharlotte.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/birth_certificate_5.jpg
Nuggetttttt - what are you up to now, you little devil?
July 29, 2009 - 16:09 ET by SickofLibsNo, not the fake one, the real one the Hawaiin official saw.
Here's how you can tell: The Mother's race says CAUCASIAN. The Father's race says AFRICAN.
African is not a race. The Mother was not from Caucasia. So why did Mother's race not say American to match the African?
Somebody in the dirty tricks dept. screwed this up badly. I believe I have provided an iron-clad rationale here.
I believe I have provided
July 29, 2009 - 16:12 ET by bigtimerI believe I have provided an iron-clad rationale here.
SoL...
That you have for our nugget-bar.
His response ought to be awesome....just awesome.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
BT:
July 29, 2009 - 16:21 ET by SickofLibsI can hear those two rusty gears grinding away as I type this.
SoL... Those gears must
July 29, 2009 - 16:58 ET by bigtimerSoL...
Those gears must be stuck.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Har!
July 29, 2009 - 17:07 ET by SickofLibsHar!
Lol SoL.... Well..he's
July 29, 2009 - 17:47 ET by bigtimerLol SoL....
Well..he's back now...must have found some WD-40...not that he's doing any better, he still hasn't found any links on the other thread we were asking about regarding O's vacation.
Think that can may have been to the bottom, just running on fumes now.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
goldbar is a lying partisan hack and here is the proof.
July 30, 2009 - 04:37 ET by JWFgoldbar is a lying partisan hack and here is the proof.
Sincerely,
a Veteran of a 1000 psychic wars.
Mancow helps keep the issue alive
July 29, 2009 - 10:45 ET by carolina09Probably the only viewership she has.
More Republican Than Some
July 29, 2009 - 11:09 ET by UtherpendYou have to give Lou credit, he doesn't back down and he calls it like he sees it. Now if we could only get the rest of the Republican Party to do this and put the Dems on the defensive.
"For a people who are free, and who mean to remain so, a well-organized and armed militia is their best security."
Obama Won't Release His Records
July 29, 2009 - 11:36 ET by SOF Vetbecause then he would be impeached, IMO. Why else would he seal all his records and not allow his Long Form birth certificate to be viewed by the public?
The American people have the right to know ANY information that would cause the impeachment of a president. He works for the people, not the other way around.
No records release means no trust. We do not trust this guy and he has failed to earn it.
I take it by his comment Lou Dobbs does not care for...
July 29, 2009 - 12:48 ET by jawebster1Rachel Maddow. She reminds me of a little boy but, unlike Dobbs, I doubt if she is one. Jim Webster
Life in the fast lane
July 29, 2009 - 14:12 ET by hughglassLike many older straight folks, Lou is clueless about the goings on in the wild and crazy, flaming gay world. Madcow is a "strap on" queen. Oberdork is the "teabagging" queen. Both queens are prospective Anglican Bishops. Get with it Lou
It's the Coverup
July 29, 2009 - 14:43 ET by slickwillie2001Someone else asking the basic question. -why doesn't the Bamster simply show the official Birth Certificate long-form and make this all go away:
The Alchemy of Democratic Cover-Ups: http://www.americanthinker.com
"I have no idea whether Barack Obama is a natural born American. I'm not a "birther" and I haven't spent a lot of time on the issue, but I have noticed a lot of people are curious, not just fringe "kooks", but reasonable people who seem to have logical reasons for their curiosity. I do not know if Obama fits the constitutional requirements for the Presidency, but I do know Democrats, and when then work hard to hide something, that something is usually a doozy."
We caught this
July 29, 2009 - 15:54 ET by bigtimerWe caught this yesterday...all Dobbs wants is the BC released, as many of us do...nothing more, nothing less.
As far as this clip, we were cheering him on...
I still wonder if he may be going to Fox...like Beck did...I don't know when his contract is up, so it's probably wishful thinking on my part.
Wouldn't that be the cats meow!
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Not a big Dobbs fan but-
July 29, 2009 - 16:52 ET by Kingfish17I'm not a big Dobbs fan, but I might watch him in Shepperd Smith's spot, since I rarely watch Shep.
"I've sentenced boys younger then you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it, but I felt I owed it to them." Judge Smails
I don't agree with Dobbs in
July 29, 2009 - 16:56 ET by bigtimerI don't agree with Dobbs in everything either, that's for sure, but I'd love to see him on Fox, Shep's place would be great, I quit watching his show years ago now.
Starting with Katrina and his whining coverage...he and Geraldo both.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
ChickaBOOMer -- Lou Dobbs: Still Birth
July 29, 2009 - 17:40 ET by StewartIIIChickaBOOMer -- Lou Dobbs: Still Birth
http://chickaboomer.blogspot.com/2009/07/blog-post.html
Here is something interesting about 1961 BCs in Hawaii
July 29, 2009 - 17:53 ET by R D Helmhttp://www.wnd.com/i...
-Dave
Dave... That is
July 29, 2009 - 18:09 ET by bigtimerDave...
That is rich.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
Re HI BC
July 29, 2009 - 18:54 ET by slickwillie2001Excellent, another one of the Bamster's weak excuses destroyed.
Here some more fun
July 29, 2009 - 20:46 ET by general companyFor Obama and his BC
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
gc... De Sano said it
July 29, 2009 - 21:04 ET by bigtimergc...
De Sano said it all, very simplified.
...and it is O's fault, no one elses, other than the msm...ALL of them.
Well, heck, I will blame the repubs also for not calling for this to be looked into with a loud voice during the primaries.
I thank you for the great read, plus his own link...which I am going to check into soon.
Doubling down on stupid is not a particularly good idea. ~Andrew Breitbart
bt et al.,
July 29, 2009 - 23:40 ET by R D HelmIt gets even better:
http://giovanniworld...
Of course, if I were to post this at HotAir, there would be some who would call me a birther, and a few would ask that I be banned.
-Dave
Hhmm
July 30, 2009 - 02:14 ET by general companyOf course, if I were to post this at HotAir,
What is up with that,?
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
gc, There are some so-called "conservatives" at HA...
July 30, 2009 - 21:44 ET by R D Helm...who are trying to get those of us who dare question Obama's eligibility banned from the site.
It has been getting a little ugly over there recently.
-Dave
Sure sounds like a liberal
July 30, 2009 - 21:49 ET by general companyTactic to me? I dont post much over there, used to visit there every day, now not so much. Need to get back to Malkins site more often too.
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Hot Air's a great site-good
July 30, 2009 - 22:35 ET by RR GOPHot Air's a great site-good articles and even better comments by members...but...
The two main guys there are not down with the Birth Certificate thing nor Sarah Palin and keep trying to push Huckabee, Romney, and Pawlenty on us from what I've seen.
True, I've noticed that some of those 'conservative' members over there are VERY much against the birth certificate issue. It's one thing to say you don't believe it's an issue...fine-we're not going to agree on everything-but some of them over there actually get on those who do think there's something to it.
I don't get how any conservative cannot relish this birth certificate scandal finally getting some notoriety. At least a lot more people out there know about it. Why would a conservative want it to go away? So the Leftist MSM and Libtards will suddenly like us? Suuuure.
One of the 34% who thinks George W. Bush was a great President. One of the 61% who wants to bring back the stock and pillory (yep...approval for Congress now at 39%...do you believe that!?).
I agree
July 30, 2009 - 23:30 ET by general companyWhole heartedly
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
Do We Need To Take Sides On Everything Now?
July 29, 2009 - 23:33 ET by The7SticksThat's what is ruining America: the hard left and the hard right, which these two commentators represent. Okay, fine, Maddow is a Teabagging Queen, and Dobbs is a Wingnut Birther King. I don't want to have it that way.
Dobbs is hard
July 30, 2009 - 01:36 ET by G. MayDobbs is hard right?
Hardly.
Seriously
July 30, 2009 - 02:39 ET by general companyI am not Right or Left, I am sane. Try it some time?
My Gov. thinks I am dangerous, so be careful
"Television is a freak show" Bernie Goldberg
the7sticks--
July 30, 2009 - 22:55 ET by misterbillYou can tell me to buzz off if you will but you are doing exactly what most of us conservatives complain about. You are misstating what Dobbs has said. I am not a Dobbs defender--it's just that I am reading the same type of response here that the Libs like to use.
Dobbs did not say that Obama is not a citizen. It's a stretch to call someone a "birther" whose position is--"I believe you to be a citizen. Why don't you just show your birth certificate and close this out".
The Dems are playing games with the "short form" versus "long form", etc.
And I wondered why until I read two great posts today. Withholding the birth certificate is an excellent ploy to make a lot of conservatives--look like conspiros--even when they say that Obama is a citizen and they just want him to present his BC like the rest of us would have to do.
Personally, I am not too interested in seeing it, or pursuing it. I feel we play into the Liberal hands when we continue in this, but I believe folks do have a legal right to see it if that's what they want.
I think this whole issue
July 30, 2009 - 23:01 ET by Radical1979I think this whole issue plays into Obama's hands because he'll never get ousted over this, meanwhile it distracts from all the legisation he has and is trying to push through.